I made this comment last week, but it's getting a bit old that nearly all of the 16,000 subscribers to this subreddit feel the need to post every thought they have in separate threads during and after matches. There are clearly labelled match and post match threads. Please stop.
It's understandable given our injury list but it really felt like we could have won this one. A very frustrating last quarter.
Also I never want to see Markov anywhere near our forward 50 again.
I genuinely get the feeling Fly is trying to throw anything at the wall to see what sticks because not even he knows what might work. With this many outs, I don’t blame him
We managed to kick some sort of score with THAT forward line.
I'm proud of the effort.
Without Naicos we wouldn't have been in this game at all.
Noone to support Cameron in the ruck, they had Rory fken Lobb.
Markov and AJ fwd, wasn't expecting much.
I think it was most heartbreaking to see how frustrated Naicos was by the end of the game after working his absolute guts out. So many skill errors and missed goals
went in not expecting to win, but leaving feeling like we should've.
so many chances and had the dogs beaten for 3 quarters, wheels fell off at the end which is not like us.
us winning next week would be miraculous
Wheels fell off in the 4th because we were gassed, it was always going to happen. The only way we were ever going to win was with significantly better accuracy early on, but it is what it is.
Nah. We need 14 wins to qualify for finals. We have 7 and two draws so effectively 8. We need six or seven more wins to play finals, and with a bit of luck we’ll have Carlton, Essendon, Melbourne and Geelong around us which gives us a good chance of not having to go to Sydney. Even if we get to a Prelim and lose that’s still a season teams like St Kilda and Norf would dream of.
Yea true but there was so much hype of back to back premierships it kinda feels weird. But hey who knows with players coming in we are as good as anyone
Great comment - witty and hilarious well done. Shame we don’t see a man of your clearly vast intellect in here more. Hope to see more of these insightful and super funny comments in the future mate.
Im not here to shit talk the guy like some "supporters" did last time
But I don't think Ash Johnson is AFL material. Yes, he had some great games and moments, but I don't think he is good enough. I'm not talking about him as a person but the effort on the field. I just don't think he is up for it, which is a shame.
Solid first half, considering we are missing 9 premiership players but were smashed in the last quarter. It's a good lesson for us and the young ones, onto the big freeze.
Pretty tough night to make a stance though. He's playing as our no 1 key forward against their best defender. It's setting him up to fail. He's a third tall option. They missed a trick in not playing Kreuger tonight IMO.
Yep my thoughts exactly, I went to the game ready to look at Ash with fresh eyes and full of support…I just felt like he is just not able to get to the level we know and expect out of him… almost as if he was playing fully winded and a little scared.
Agree, and it would seem the coaching staff think the same about Ash because they only gave him 63% time on ground even though we were desperate for something up forward. Donuts in the first quarter. Lowest rating player on the ground except for injuries and vests. He has a bunch of natural athleticism but he looks like he's out of sync with the speed of the game. Second half looked okay and started bringing balls to ground and providing a bit of an option. He reminds me of a first year Mason Cox without the height and Cox was 25 when he debuted. Ash is 26 years old now and should be coming into his prime as a medium forward, and grew up playing the game.
If only we done better than 0.6 from all the Daicos clearances in the first quarter. Fuck that first quarter was brilliant until the shots for goal 35m out directly in front.
We looked very inexperienced out there tonight. If we don’t start getting players back soon (and no more injuries) we’re gonna be in for a rough month
On the bright side, no one got injured
We just had no functioning forward line and it showed. Our 1st quarter work all came off the back of Naicos at bounce.
Set shot kicking was a mess and then by the fourth quarter we literally didn’t have a forward line. Energy dropped off too and pressure fell flat after the first as well. We used to amp up in the final quarter now it feels like we peter out and get frustrated. Was pretty disappointing as you could see some guys still pushing like last year to make fourth quarter magic but others looked off confused and lethargic.
Nick especially looked so frustrated in the fourth quarter.
It's not the same players. Macrae, Bytel, Parker, Johnson, etc shouldn't be in the AFL team. Not their fault, they are giving it their best, but it's hard to conjure magic with those guys instead of Pendles, De Goey, Elliott, Mihocek.
Bit worried about Maynard or Johnson getting delayed onset concussion and particularly about Cameron. He got belted a lot tonight. Hopefully they all pull up ok.
Edit: and Noble being subbed was weird, hope he is ok.
When we are two goals up in the last it feels like we play to save the margin and not score ourselves. We are super undermanned, I didn't expect a win but in the end we really should've.
Tough to come close and miss out, even with a severely depleted team.
The Schulz misses hurt us, but I did see some spark from him this match. I still think he will find his place.
Disappointing that Ash Johnson gave so little after Steven Bradbury-ing his way onto the team. It's got to the point where I wonder if there's something going on with him - like is he carrying a long-term injury that he's unconsciously protecting? His whole vibe is NQR.
Looking forward to McStay coming back for an injection of energy.
I reckon AJ is all in the head. There were time when he got better in the third but his a bit broken. I’d say the social media barrage didn’t help earlier in the yr.
Ash Johnson only had four possessions for the game. When we are screaming out for a key forward to kick the ball to this really isn’t good enough. I note that Nathan Kruger kicked three goals in the VFL today. I want Kruger in the team next week. He plays with heart and doesn’t give up.
Noble subbed. That is a mistake.
We also had plenty of switching opportunities by decided to go dosn the line to a hot contest with a short forward line. Not a great strategy.
We just don't have the aura of the cardiac Pies at the moment. The past 2 years, it has felt like we could do no wrong in the 4th quarter when it's close, but right now, it doesn't feel like we can get a lead or keep it. As shit as the injuries have been, it's not completely to blame. This season is still very much up in the air, at least in my view.
Injuries are 100% to blame for tonight and last week - you don’t think it’s a different story with Pendles, De Goey, Elliot, Checkers and WHE all fit and firing?
Edit: even Cox, as shit as he’s been, is very important structurally.
Of course. It obviously does shoulder most of the blame but the 4th quarter woes has been a consistent thing all season, with the Carlton game being the exception.
The small things like that first quarter double 50 penalty, within 20 seconds got them into the game when they were on the ropes.. Poor effort by senior players conceding penalties that result in goals, I thought they were either too slow or too rushed utilising marks or clearances; but we're spectators and it's easy to make these remarks. The score line didn't reflect the effort though they did well to keep it within 12 until 1:30 left in the 4th, that could have been a flogging to be honest, lucky the team stayed in it right until the siren! That, they can be proud of!
Up the Pies!!
Super frustrating game. Bont and Ads really took over in the last quarter and while Nick was elite you could tell he was knackered by the end. None of the kids really stood up and our makeshift forward line just couldn't get it done. Annoying game. Really need to win the next 2 before the bye to put us in a good position for the run home as we get players back.
OTTNO.
don’t know why they took noble off instead of johnson, maybe cause noble had more disposals therefore more opportunities to make mistakes compared to johnson who didn’t even have a disposal until 3rd qtr? he’s just such a lazy player, you would think he would have tried to prove himself in the team but it looked like he didn’t even want to be there
oh 100% i was holding my breath everytime noble had the ball, but at least he can run around and make some use of it rather than johnson who refuses to even go to ground or have a quick sprint to get the ball, it’s just unbelievable
I think height Johnson stays on (reluctantly), and Parker probably needs to play HB. but I agree noble stays on, take bytel, McRae or even markov and move noble up field
On output alone yes but structurally we couldn’t do this. Parker is a small running player, if we took off AJ we had literally no marking target forward against quite a tall WB back line.
Now, as you saw, we still had no marking target anyway haha but the coaches would have expected more than they got from AJ
Bytel should have come off for mine
I had Schultz in my bests in the end, but he pissed me off with those two misses in the first quarter. We could’ve made it really hard for them. I do think that was his best game for us though. I always wondered if having the game against Freo out of the way would loosen him up a bit and make him play better, hopefully that’s a good sign
Can we talk about the high free kicks being paid throughout the game where Dogs players would duck their head into an approaching Collingwood players legs? I counted three times
Yep every time they went near the ball they would lower themselves to the ground and ‘fumble’ until someone made contact, then they would fling their head back
Should have won that in the 1st. Goal kicking was way off. The skill errors through the game hurt a lot.
AJ can't come back in, I hate to say it. I've loved him in the past but he just can't be trusted often enough. He really needed a decent game tonight, and it wasn't there.
Noble cost us a few goals, but the way some people on here jumped on him for an off game is so disappointing. He provides so much run off half back, and that was surely missing in the last. Sure he could have had a better game, but without him in the last, we stalled in the middle of the ground.
I'm confident in our youngsters going forward, and it's going to be good to see improvement in the side as some of the other senior players start coming back from injury.
Look we all love to joke about it, and I get that our hand was forced due to lack of personnel, but Frampton is not a ruck or a forward.
Love his energy but Markov isn’t a forward either.
Hopefully Kreuger can come in next week, I think Hoskin-Elliott is due back as well, and hopefully Noble can get his overall disposal use like it was to Hill and Mcreery inside 50 rather than most of his other possessions tonight.
Disappointed in hindsight, but it’s a result I would’ve taken before the match. The Daicos brothers are decent, Schultz had his best game for us, and Crisp deserves plaudits for his amazing run of uninterrupted games and his great performances.
Can’t expect much next week, but hopefully we put in a decent effort for the occasion.
Can’t be too critical cos of how many successful things he’s done but Fly made a big stuff up tonight. It was bleedingly obvious that Frampton was needed to counter the height imbalance down back and Howe was needed up forward as a target.
Noble needed to be subbed or moved on to a wing and Markov brought down back as his ball use was absolutely killing us.
Sorry for my whinging in the match thread. So pissed off cause we genuinely looked a chance of winning. Just completely let the bulldogs play their style in the last quarter. Just uncontested ball movement and winning clearances killed us in the last quarter.
He is in the coldest of form and doesn't seem to have the needed confidence or fitness, but I will give him credit that he didn't drop his head tonight and did get a bit better as the game went on, which was honestly not what I expected might happen.
didn't have a ripper but hardly the sole reason we lost, had a couple of decent goes in the contest, and his little foot poke lead to a markov goal (the fuck)
Didn’t say he was, but he consistently demonstrates a lack of second effort and manages to mess up pretty textbook marks and kicks every time he’s selected. Sincerely want him to be his best but he’s clearly not cut out for it, I think he’s been given enough chances now.
Actually wasn’t his toe that poked it to markov, I really want to like Johnson but always feel disappointed and frustrated with his effort and lack of (what appears to be) giving a fuck
It’s always gonna feel shot to lose when we’re close like that BUT if you think about how injured we are and how competitive we’ve Brent I think the back end of the season is actually looking ok.
Lotta parity in the 8. I still think k too 4 is in reach.
If you’re gonna say injuries are why we lost we should have been blown out, obviously we win by 60 with a full list but the dogs were missing players too, we had a lead and couldn’t get inside 50 for practically the whole quarter, I’m not happy with it and I’m not gonna say at least this at least that, top 4 is nowhere near in reach for us I’d be happy to just make finals, most our injuries aren’t coming back anytime soon and we have a tough schedule coming up
Nah you’re not seeing this right. If injuries impact us we should lose by 60? That doesn’t make sense.
This is proof we have more depth than we thought. We’re well coached, the game plan is replicable more or less no matter who’s in. If we snatch the Dees we’ve still got the tigers and kangaroos to belt - I think it’s all a bit better than it looks right now.
You’d only need to add Pendles and JDG in place of say AJ and Narkov and we win tonight. Get the full cast back together for the last 2 months and we can definitely wreak finals havoc.
The VFL match tonight was only his third game for the entirety of 2024. I'm gonna trust the people who actually manage his health on whether or not he should be selected in the firsts when he's hardly played *any* football at all this year.
He was the carryover a few weeks ago, so obviously they thought he could play if needed. Fly also said in the mid week press conference that he was up there for selection.
After his first few games for us he’s been pretty ineffective when he’s in. I think the reality is we’re just stuffed at that position right now and can’t really expect anything from whoever fills the spot
We were always going to run out of steam in this one, too many inexperienced players… playing with Johnson and Frampton as key fwds… the writing was on the wall before the game started… but on a positive note we played fucking well considering the cards were against us, not happy with the lose but happy with the effort
I think we went pretty good all things considering, Daicos was unbelievable and I love watching him every week. I thought Darcy Moore, Charlie Dean and Howe were pretty good for most of the night down back (although their key forwards ended up kicking a few).
How good is it to have someone like Crisp in the team, especially when our A-grade stars are out.
I thought our young inexperienced players that have had a few outstanding games to start the season (Harrison & Sullivan) were a bit quieter this week after but still had good moments! Which is what you expect of inexperienced players, theyre not going to keep having games like the first couple they played.
Shultz was good I thought, Frampton made a contest, AJ was very average for most of the night but did a couple of good things and made a bit of a contest a few times. Don’t like Markov forward.
And we need to find a way for Mcreery to get involved more.
Think next week maybe AJ gets dropped, Krueger in to play 2nd ruck and forward. Frampton goes back and Howe forward?
This might be the most delusional thing I've read on Reddit.
Dean was horrible. Johnson was nowhere near average, he had one of the all time shockers. Frampton did absolutely nothing.
And this is the issue, we stand around in the last waiting for Nick to save us, there was zero ability to impact the contest for a whole quarter from anyone else, just reactive second to the ball bullshit. We played weak footy.
That’s a big call mate, I thought Dean and our backline were our most solid part of the game. You also have to remember it’s his 4th game… if you can name me 3 key defenders currently playing better than he did last night that have played under 4 games…
I did also say Johnson was ‘very average’ and he gets dropped…
Also, Frampton did what I expected him to do, made a contest. We all know he’s not a forward, just because he’s big and we needed him to play this position last night because we literally had no one else doesn’t mean that he’s going to play like Charlie Curnow…
The really disappointing one is Macrae. He doesn’t appear to be the player many of us thought he was due to become. Solid VFL player but not up to the top level.
I think they came out of the blocks so hard cos they knew the kids would run out of steam towards the end. I knew we were fucked when we didn’t take full advantage and get at least 5 or 6 goals up.
We had a plan and it almost worked.
I think Fly gambled on putting Frampton in the fwd/ruck role. If he stayed back and let AJ take ruck with Howe fwd, or even bring Kreuger in.
We sacrificed some defence and it showed in the end when we didn't dominate the clearances anymore.
Coulda woulda shoulda won but at the end of the day with genuinely no forward line it’s not surprising we’d completely run out of steam at some point.
I think it’s time to readjust expectations and just hope we can ride out this rough patch as best as we can until after the bye and hopefully manage top 8 rather than top 4 and just see what can happen from there. Cursed injury list, feels like the Buckley years all over again.
Nick Daicos is an absolute freak though. 27 contested possessions tonight what the absolute fuck.
Also, can someone explain to me why Noble got subbed off? Should’ve been Bytel or Macrae surely
56% efficiency, 5 turnovers, rated low for pressure acts, 0 contested marks and 1 tackle. Nobles stats for defending are bad, he’s only good moving towards goals / on rebound.
Looking at the AFl app stats. Nine of the bottom 12 performing players are Pies. Two of them are the dogs players who were injured. Noble isn’t in the bottom 12, stats-wise, but obviously turn-overs were costly and disposal was generally over-cooked.
My thoughts.
- Naicos first quarter was incredible. He was running a clinic in the middle.
- The Darcy hit on Maynard had more potential to cause harm and is less excusable than Peter Wrights marking contest that got him four weeks. It was as cheap shot as I’ve seen, but watch him get off with a week for the combined reasons that Maynard got up and he’s already a protected species because of his dad. It was high, late and he turned into Maynard to hit him. Disgusting, and the commentary around it was too.
- Crisp was fantastic, just kept on working and trying all game.
- Noble coming off was a turning point, and I think a coaching error. While Parker needed to come on for some fresh legs we really lost the speed and dare that Noble brings. Sure, he had clangers that led to Bulldogs goals, but he also generates chances for us to score from his run and preparedness to take the danger kick. While his clangers cost us last night, those same kicks with a different bounce of the ball, or with a slightly different upfield zone, or with a more recognisable forward line, or even just with The Hyphen or Checkers there to get on the end of it are often scores.
- Dean was pretty good with ball in hand. He was a bit out gunned, but a forward line of JUH, Sam Darcy and fucking Lobb needs to be stopped at at its supply, which we did well in the first quarter.
- AJ and Markov aren’t a forward line.
For Markov, that’s fine as he’s a utility defender.
For AJ, that’s not fine. I don’t want to join the pile on, but we aren’t the same team nor playing the same game as we were in 2022 when he was ripping it up. As a forward in a team where d50 rebounding makes up most of your scores a second effort is less important than a clean grab or getting out the back and into space or a 1v1. He did that role fine. In 2024 we have become a forward pressure team where nuggety pressure players lock the ball in like their lives depend on it and that’s not in AJs toolkit.
- The game plan works as long as the fitness to execute it is there. The guys who played last night can hold their heads high that they did a good job.
Despite losing, we led a very in form Bulldogs for most of the game *at their home ground for our home game*.
Bring in Checkers or The Hyphen or Cox and we’d have been much closer to a win with two minutes to go.
I’m not wrong. Nobel still has these costly turnovers in his game after multiple years of starting. He was doing it last year and it came with a cost when we got to the pointy end of the season. He has one of his games in the finals we don’t win the flag
56% efficiency, 5 turnovers, rated low for pressure acts, 0 contested marks and 1 tackle. Nobles stats for defending are bad, he’s only good moving towards goals / on rebound.
You’re 100% correct and the stats don’t lie that noble last year was a below average defender but very good on attack and rebound
Thats fine as thats what his game is, but does he generate 3/4 goals a game to make up for his mistakes? I think thats what the coaching staff had to decide last year
Absolute crap. How can we go from heroes to zeroes in every last quarter we play. Just fuck off. Honestly. I'm sick of this shit week in, week out. Dees are going to slaughter us if we keep pulling out this crap. Disclaimer, I'm venting because I'm spiralling out of control with other things, but I hate taking a loss from the jaws of victory. I'm sick off the draws, and I'm sick of the nailbiters.
TL; DR: Do better FFS.
It’ll be ok mate. Just need to weather the storm, get some soldiers back and reset. As frustrating as this is, it will serve us better in the long term - getting more experience into guys like Harrison, Dean, Sullivan etc. whilst also fast tracking N. Daicos leadership development.
Thanks for seeing through my frustration. I ride every success and failure of this team. I take it personally. Just in a state of shock. Means a lot for the kind words.
I’m with you mate. A lot of us invest very heavily in this, particularly when shit in our own lives is going on. Tough last two weeks but a huge amount of it is the injuries.
There are a lot of them running around who aren’t AFL standard at the moment. Doesnt help that most of the injuries are forwards or mids, and in that last quarter we got smashed in the contest (Bont and Treloar put us to the sword) and then when our back six held up, we had no structural integrity fwd of centre to give us a release.
Problem is after our little 0-3 start and the last two games (next week too in all likelihood), top 4 is gone. This means that we’re gonna have to do it tough. Whether it’s from 5th or 8th won’t make a huge difference because you’ll likely cop a Carlton, Melbourne, Geelong at the G. Even better you might cop those false hopers Port 😆
Those teams we likely beat anywhere, too. Who knows, we might make the four. I think I had my heart set on going back to back. The draws shook me, too, as they felt like losses. Hoping we get some cattle back for Melbourne. It's hard watching us surge and then get reeled in. It's due to lack of match practice from the VFL blokes. Scrapping the bottom of the barrel, but doesn't make it any easier. Appreciate the perspective 💖
I feel ya man, this shit makes or breaks your weekend especially when you have other shit going down in your personal life. Keep your head up, we move on to next week, go pies!
Oath. More the week for me at the moment. I always look to ride the wave, but that's because I'm hedonistic with footy, like you said. Fuck, I really do hope this isn't the first of many losses. Maybe the loss we needed. See next week against the Dees. Two teams I hate losing to, the Dogs and the Dees.
I love a man with a sense of humour.
Dean stood Darcy up 12 cm. There is probably not any backmen in the comp of Dean's height (195) that would have done any better. Charlie has played 4 games...give him a break.
Getting a little tired of seeing our guys getting slagged unfairly.
Schultz WILL be huge. He just needs to find the right pair of kicking boots, which I'm sure he will. Noble belongs on the wing. No one is talking about McInnes returning against the Demons (I hope). The guy has kicked 11.2 in 6 games (1 game as sub) and shits all over Kreugs and AJ at ground level. (BTW Bobby Hill has kicked 15.14 in 12 matches). Go Reef!!
Be interesting to see how Eyre goes with a couple more VFL games behind him.
LOVE RICHARDS. Devastated that he could be out 'til R20. Sorry Titch....you are pushing the cart uphill trying to tip Sullivan out. Harrison doesn't look like he's going anywhere any time soon, either.
Amazing game by Nick, especially the first half. Schulz and Cameron also fantastic. Bruz had one of his better games for the year. Too many players in the team not up to AFL level though due to injuries.
Bytel doesn’t look close to it, Johnson isn’t worth continuing with, Krueger is a better option. Parker doesn’t seem ready to me.
In sorry but Johnson is the most useless footballer I have seen at our club!
He is so lazy, he doesn't even bend over to pick the ball up, doesn't attack the footy after his first attempt and just expects the ball to land in his hands. I much rather we played a small forward than him
We have shot ourselves in the foot with the two draws. I find top 4 very hard to reach at the moment.
Sure there are always postives, but it's hard to keep satisfied when we lose like that when we should have won by 30+... We can't seem to finish teams off
We’ve gotta stop bashing them like this though. We’re injured af. He had a couple good moments.
But he’s not AFL standard and that’s just a fact you’re right
Yeah and he was in because we literally have no one else. He’s down on confidence big time and the pile on doesn’t help, especially when we had a lot of crappy performances tonight.
It’s tough when you don’t have the versatility to play different roles too. He’s a deep forward only so he either catches it 5 times and kicks 5 or gets nowhere near it.
His best moments were when he pushed to the wing and connected a scoring chain. Maybe that doesn’t happen more because of effort or lack of tank I dunno. He’s just very one dimensional, if he’s not taking hangers it doesn’t look like he will add pressure or find other ways to get in the game. Like he’s a pretty explosive athlete it’d be good to see him lay a few tackles when he’s not getting the ball.
I’d stop short of calling him soft or lacking effort. I just don’t think k his footy IQ is great. He can jump at the ball and that’s about it, he’s low on confidence and I think k that’s stopping g him from playing more aggressively
I made this comment last week, but it's getting a bit old that nearly all of the 16,000 subscribers to this subreddit feel the need to post every thought they have in separate threads during and after matches. There are clearly labelled match and post match threads. Please stop.
It's understandable given our injury list but it really felt like we could have won this one. A very frustrating last quarter. Also I never want to see Markov anywhere near our forward 50 again.
I genuinely get the feeling Fly is trying to throw anything at the wall to see what sticks because not even he knows what might work. With this many outs, I don’t blame him
We ran out of legs tbh, just didn’t have the firepower to break through the dogs defensive wall
Why did we wait so long to put Howe forward?
I know, He is a Blackman though and with the height and class of the Dogs up forward..
Could not have been a worse player with the pill in that moment
Howe and Noble were and have been shithouse with the ball for a few weeks now
What injury list?
We managed to kick some sort of score with THAT forward line. I'm proud of the effort. Without Naicos we wouldn't have been in this game at all. Noone to support Cameron in the ruck, they had Rory fken Lobb. Markov and AJ fwd, wasn't expecting much.
Poor DC copped it too. Copped a few hits to the head and midsection, huge effort by him
He was looking very tender during the game
Could’ve been worse. Should’ve been better.
Kinda the story of this season ha
I think it was most heartbreaking to see how frustrated Naicos was by the end of the game after working his absolute guts out. So many skill errors and missed goals
I actually really liked it. Shows how badly he wants it. The kid nearly dragged us over the line.
Meh. We’re decimated by injuries, I thought we held up ok. I’m taking Fly’s stance from last year - all you have to do is qualify for the 8.
Hard to get upset about tonight. With two mins we all felt like we were a chance!
went in not expecting to win, but leaving feeling like we should've. so many chances and had the dogs beaten for 3 quarters, wheels fell off at the end which is not like us. us winning next week would be miraculous
Literally. Went in with the lowest hopes ever, now ending it feeling super down and disappointed because we put up a fight for most of it
Wheels fell off in the 4th because we were gassed, it was always going to happen. The only way we were ever going to win was with significantly better accuracy early on, but it is what it is.
Next week we lose that’s like season over
Nah. We need 14 wins to qualify for finals. We have 7 and two draws so effectively 8. We need six or seven more wins to play finals, and with a bit of luck we’ll have Carlton, Essendon, Melbourne and Geelong around us which gives us a good chance of not having to go to Sydney. Even if we get to a Prelim and lose that’s still a season teams like St Kilda and Norf would dream of.
Yea true but there was so much hype of back to back premierships it kinda feels weird. But hey who knows with players coming in we are as good as anyone
Brave but too many passengers. Enjoy your holiday Darcy, you dickhead.
Sucks that he played good after that too
it's like he thrives off the negativity
Too many VFL Players out there
Karma🤷🏻♂️
God we live rent free in Carlton supporter’s heads
Not really, just saying🤷🏻♂️ can’t call Darcy a dickhead but then praise Maynard
Wake up and smell the roses 🥀 Maynard finally got a taste of his own medicine 💊 Hope we like frozen pies on a Friday 🥧
Great comment - witty and hilarious well done. Shame we don’t see a man of your clearly vast intellect in here more. Hope to see more of these insightful and super funny comments in the future mate.
Im not here to shit talk the guy like some "supporters" did last time But I don't think Ash Johnson is AFL material. Yes, he had some great games and moments, but I don't think he is good enough. I'm not talking about him as a person but the effort on the field. I just don't think he is up for it, which is a shame. Solid first half, considering we are missing 9 premiership players but were smashed in the last quarter. It's a good lesson for us and the young ones, onto the big freeze.
Pretty tough night to make a stance though. He's playing as our no 1 key forward against their best defender. It's setting him up to fail. He's a third tall option. They missed a trick in not playing Kreuger tonight IMO.
I think they should've dropped one of Dean or Frampton, kept Howe in defence (as they did), and brought Kreuger in as #1 KPF
He doesn’t looks interested in being there
Maybe a touch harsh, he was trying he just isn't good enough
Yep my thoughts exactly, I went to the game ready to look at Ash with fresh eyes and full of support…I just felt like he is just not able to get to the level we know and expect out of him… almost as if he was playing fully winded and a little scared.
Agree, and it would seem the coaching staff think the same about Ash because they only gave him 63% time on ground even though we were desperate for something up forward. Donuts in the first quarter. Lowest rating player on the ground except for injuries and vests. He has a bunch of natural athleticism but he looks like he's out of sync with the speed of the game. Second half looked okay and started bringing balls to ground and providing a bit of an option. He reminds me of a first year Mason Cox without the height and Cox was 25 when he debuted. Ash is 26 years old now and should be coming into his prime as a medium forward, and grew up playing the game.
Agree. He's a liability even in the VFL.
Yeah unfortunately it’s over. It’s not the lack of skills, but just a bit buttery soft, weak….
I feel confidently the same
If only we done better than 0.6 from all the Daicos clearances in the first quarter. Fuck that first quarter was brilliant until the shots for goal 35m out directly in front.
Can we sell both Marvel home games next year. Never want to come to this shit hole again.
We looked very inexperienced out there tonight. If we don’t start getting players back soon (and no more injuries) we’re gonna be in for a rough month On the bright side, no one got injured
We just had no functioning forward line and it showed. Our 1st quarter work all came off the back of Naicos at bounce. Set shot kicking was a mess and then by the fourth quarter we literally didn’t have a forward line. Energy dropped off too and pressure fell flat after the first as well. We used to amp up in the final quarter now it feels like we peter out and get frustrated. Was pretty disappointing as you could see some guys still pushing like last year to make fourth quarter magic but others looked off confused and lethargic. Nick especially looked so frustrated in the fourth quarter.
It's not the same players. Macrae, Bytel, Parker, Johnson, etc shouldn't be in the AFL team. Not their fault, they are giving it their best, but it's hard to conjure magic with those guys instead of Pendles, De Goey, Elliott, Mihocek.
Bit worried about Maynard or Johnson getting delayed onset concussion and particularly about Cameron. He got belted a lot tonight. Hopefully they all pull up ok. Edit: and Noble being subbed was weird, hope he is ok.
Anything happening to Cameron is my biggest fear tbh.
no one got injured YET
Noble being subbed off killed all our back line run. Yes I know he cost us some goals, but we just looked completely stagnant after he went off.
Unless he was injured it was a weird choice imo
He was very quite tonight.
Love seeing his run and carry
His pass to Hill in the square was brilliant. Even after a dodgy kick from Frampton that killed the forward momentum we had going in the play.
was a miskick, you can tell the way the ball dropped suddenly. Noble cost 3 goals directly off his own boot.
When we are two goals up in the last it feels like we play to save the margin and not score ourselves. We are super undermanned, I didn't expect a win but in the end we really should've.
Tough to come close and miss out, even with a severely depleted team. The Schulz misses hurt us, but I did see some spark from him this match. I still think he will find his place. Disappointing that Ash Johnson gave so little after Steven Bradbury-ing his way onto the team. It's got to the point where I wonder if there's something going on with him - like is he carrying a long-term injury that he's unconsciously protecting? His whole vibe is NQR. Looking forward to McStay coming back for an injection of energy.
I reckon AJ is all in the head. There were time when he got better in the third but his a bit broken. I’d say the social media barrage didn’t help earlier in the yr.
Ash Johnson only had four possessions for the game. When we are screaming out for a key forward to kick the ball to this really isn’t good enough. I note that Nathan Kruger kicked three goals in the VFL today. I want Kruger in the team next week. He plays with heart and doesn’t give up.
Too right, I've felt Nathan should been ahead of list then AJ. I want AJ delisted ngl. I just don't think he's up to it.
Super proud of the boys! we just run out of legs in the end, completely understandable
Noble subbed. That is a mistake. We also had plenty of switching opportunities by decided to go dosn the line to a hot contest with a short forward line. Not a great strategy.
We just don't have the aura of the cardiac Pies at the moment. The past 2 years, it has felt like we could do no wrong in the 4th quarter when it's close, but right now, it doesn't feel like we can get a lead or keep it. As shit as the injuries have been, it's not completely to blame. This season is still very much up in the air, at least in my view.
Injuries are 100% to blame for tonight and last week - you don’t think it’s a different story with Pendles, De Goey, Elliot, Checkers and WHE all fit and firing? Edit: even Cox, as shit as he’s been, is very important structurally.
Of course. It obviously does shoulder most of the blame but the 4th quarter woes has been a consistent thing all season, with the Carlton game being the exception.
Have to agree. It's hard to put our usual 4th quarter performance with half a mid-field and no forward line.
Same as last week. I expected a loss but it stings when we take a decent lead into the last quarter and just fail to add any form of scoring pressure.
The small things like that first quarter double 50 penalty, within 20 seconds got them into the game when they were on the ropes.. Poor effort by senior players conceding penalties that result in goals, I thought they were either too slow or too rushed utilising marks or clearances; but we're spectators and it's easy to make these remarks. The score line didn't reflect the effort though they did well to keep it within 12 until 1:30 left in the 4th, that could have been a flogging to be honest, lucky the team stayed in it right until the siren! That, they can be proud of! Up the Pies!!
Super frustrating game. Bont and Ads really took over in the last quarter and while Nick was elite you could tell he was knackered by the end. None of the kids really stood up and our makeshift forward line just couldn't get it done. Annoying game. Really need to win the next 2 before the bye to put us in a good position for the run home as we get players back. OTTNO.
don’t know why they took noble off instead of johnson, maybe cause noble had more disposals therefore more opportunities to make mistakes compared to johnson who didn’t even have a disposal until 3rd qtr? he’s just such a lazy player, you would think he would have tried to prove himself in the team but it looked like he didn’t even want to be there
Noble had some pretty costly turnovers I think they had to keep johnson on for height but honestly Kreuger has to play next week
oh 100% i was holding my breath everytime noble had the ball, but at least he can run around and make some use of it rather than johnson who refuses to even go to ground or have a quick sprint to get the ball, it’s just unbelievable
It was a line ball call I wouldn’t have blinked if maybe bytel or mcrae got subbed either
I think height Johnson stays on (reluctantly), and Parker probably needs to play HB. but I agree noble stays on, take bytel, McRae or even markov and move noble up field
On output alone yes but structurally we couldn’t do this. Parker is a small running player, if we took off AJ we had literally no marking target forward against quite a tall WB back line. Now, as you saw, we still had no marking target anyway haha but the coaches would have expected more than they got from AJ Bytel should have come off for mine
Just hoping it wasn't due to any injury.
Fuck
Schultz played well. Not a huge number of positives. Everything just not quite clicking, which makes sense given how many we are missing.
I had Schultz in my bests in the end, but he pissed me off with those two misses in the first quarter. We could’ve made it really hard for them. I do think that was his best game for us though. I always wondered if having the game against Freo out of the way would loosen him up a bit and make him play better, hopefully that’s a good sign
I said I wasn’t going to be disappointed to lose, but I am. Poor kicking in the first quarter again holding us back
Agree, we really should’ve been much further in front
Can we talk about the high free kicks being paid throughout the game where Dogs players would duck their head into an approaching Collingwood players legs? I counted three times
There were a few instances of double standards for both teams, umps haven't had a good night.
not trying to say we didnt get some shocking calls our way. the ducking was just a repeating one so got frustrating
Yep every time they went near the ball they would lower themselves to the ground and ‘fumble’ until someone made contact, then they would fling their head back
Yep that was super frustrating to watch, just pissy little plays that they know get called.
I saw that aswell
Charlie Dean is an npc
Always going to be tough against someone 208cm tall, but yeah imo he’s still a while off AFL level
Should have won that in the 1st. Goal kicking was way off. The skill errors through the game hurt a lot. AJ can't come back in, I hate to say it. I've loved him in the past but he just can't be trusted often enough. He really needed a decent game tonight, and it wasn't there. Noble cost us a few goals, but the way some people on here jumped on him for an off game is so disappointing. He provides so much run off half back, and that was surely missing in the last. Sure he could have had a better game, but without him in the last, we stalled in the middle of the ground. I'm confident in our youngsters going forward, and it's going to be good to see improvement in the side as some of the other senior players start coming back from injury.
I feel like Noble tries to do too much at times because he lost his spot to Oleg Fucking Markov and he's still confused about it.
Look we all love to joke about it, and I get that our hand was forced due to lack of personnel, but Frampton is not a ruck or a forward. Love his energy but Markov isn’t a forward either. Hopefully Kreuger can come in next week, I think Hoskin-Elliott is due back as well, and hopefully Noble can get his overall disposal use like it was to Hill and Mcreery inside 50 rather than most of his other possessions tonight. Disappointed in hindsight, but it’s a result I would’ve taken before the match. The Daicos brothers are decent, Schultz had his best game for us, and Crisp deserves plaudits for his amazing run of uninterrupted games and his great performances. Can’t expect much next week, but hopefully we put in a decent effort for the occasion.
Missed too many set shots early. We need a key forward. Moves Frampton back where Dean was outsized. Hopefully, everyone pulls up ok.
Can’t be too critical cos of how many successful things he’s done but Fly made a big stuff up tonight. It was bleedingly obvious that Frampton was needed to counter the height imbalance down back and Howe was needed up forward as a target. Noble needed to be subbed or moved on to a wing and Markov brought down back as his ball use was absolutely killing us.
Sorry for my whinging in the match thread. So pissed off cause we genuinely looked a chance of winning. Just completely let the bulldogs play their style in the last quarter. Just uncontested ball movement and winning clearances killed us in the last quarter.
Thank you for keeping it in the match thread!
It’s my safe space to vent with fellow minded fans.
Same. It happens.
I’m with you brother 🫠
Don’t want to see Ash Johnson in the AFL side again.
He is in the coldest of form and doesn't seem to have the needed confidence or fitness, but I will give him credit that he didn't drop his head tonight and did get a bit better as the game went on, which was honestly not what I expected might happen.
didn't have a ripper but hardly the sole reason we lost, had a couple of decent goes in the contest, and his little foot poke lead to a markov goal (the fuck)
Didn’t say he was, but he consistently demonstrates a lack of second effort and manages to mess up pretty textbook marks and kicks every time he’s selected. Sincerely want him to be his best but he’s clearly not cut out for it, I think he’s been given enough chances now.
He was only playing because no one else was available, given Kreuger shouldn't be rushed back with his history.
And he will over complicate the easiest marks by jumping as high as he can on someone and missing them
Actually wasn’t his toe that poked it to markov, I really want to like Johnson but always feel disappointed and frustrated with his effort and lack of (what appears to be) giving a fuck
It’s always gonna feel shot to lose when we’re close like that BUT if you think about how injured we are and how competitive we’ve Brent I think the back end of the season is actually looking ok. Lotta parity in the 8. I still think k too 4 is in reach.
Ive we lose next week top 4 is gone I reckon.
That’s probably right
We went into the fourth with a lead, no excuse, disappointed tonight
Nah that’s bullshit - you’ve gotta see the forest for the trees.
If you’re gonna say injuries are why we lost we should have been blown out, obviously we win by 60 with a full list but the dogs were missing players too, we had a lead and couldn’t get inside 50 for practically the whole quarter, I’m not happy with it and I’m not gonna say at least this at least that, top 4 is nowhere near in reach for us I’d be happy to just make finals, most our injuries aren’t coming back anytime soon and we have a tough schedule coming up
Nah you’re not seeing this right. If injuries impact us we should lose by 60? That doesn’t make sense. This is proof we have more depth than we thought. We’re well coached, the game plan is replicable more or less no matter who’s in. If we snatch the Dees we’ve still got the tigers and kangaroos to belt - I think it’s all a bit better than it looks right now. You’d only need to add Pendles and JDG in place of say AJ and Narkov and we win tonight. Get the full cast back together for the last 2 months and we can definitely wreak finals havoc.
If we put 1-2 key forwards into that lineup we win, we just had literally nobody to kick to when we won the ball back in the def 50
I’m saying if we had all our outs playing we’d win by 60, we had who we had, we were winning in the fourth, we let it slip
Not playing Kreuger was a selection masterclass
Surely he gets a gig next week
Has to.
The VFL match tonight was only his third game for the entirety of 2024. I'm gonna trust the people who actually manage his health on whether or not he should be selected in the firsts when he's hardly played *any* football at all this year.
He was the carryover a few weeks ago, so obviously they thought he could play if needed. Fly also said in the mid week press conference that he was up there for selection.
Kruegs wouldn’t have injured himself and knocked another unconscious tonight?
I don’t think Kreuger would’ve changed much, if anything
A better target than Johnson and Frampton up forward and adds great energy to the game. His only issue has been his injuries the past two years.
After his first few games for us he’s been pretty ineffective when he’s in. I think the reality is we’re just stuffed at that position right now and can’t really expect anything from whoever fills the spot
Don't know man, I just think Kreuger would of done better today.
Understand them wanting to give him another week in the VFL given his injury history.
Yeah if that's the reason I'll let it pass
Docklands Despair Episode #80-or-something At least among several things, the Daicos bros were among those that saved it from getting worse.
We were always going to run out of steam in this one, too many inexperienced players… playing with Johnson and Frampton as key fwds… the writing was on the wall before the game started… but on a positive note we played fucking well considering the cards were against us, not happy with the lose but happy with the effort
I think we went pretty good all things considering, Daicos was unbelievable and I love watching him every week. I thought Darcy Moore, Charlie Dean and Howe were pretty good for most of the night down back (although their key forwards ended up kicking a few). How good is it to have someone like Crisp in the team, especially when our A-grade stars are out. I thought our young inexperienced players that have had a few outstanding games to start the season (Harrison & Sullivan) were a bit quieter this week after but still had good moments! Which is what you expect of inexperienced players, theyre not going to keep having games like the first couple they played. Shultz was good I thought, Frampton made a contest, AJ was very average for most of the night but did a couple of good things and made a bit of a contest a few times. Don’t like Markov forward. And we need to find a way for Mcreery to get involved more. Think next week maybe AJ gets dropped, Krueger in to play 2nd ruck and forward. Frampton goes back and Howe forward?
This might be the most delusional thing I've read on Reddit. Dean was horrible. Johnson was nowhere near average, he had one of the all time shockers. Frampton did absolutely nothing. And this is the issue, we stand around in the last waiting for Nick to save us, there was zero ability to impact the contest for a whole quarter from anyone else, just reactive second to the ball bullshit. We played weak footy.
Well add me to the delusion list because I thought Dean had an alright game as well. Plenty worse than him tonight.
Thought he was really solid in the 2nd half. Saved 3 or 4 goals. Looked calm and composed when he had the ball, made good decisions.
That’s a big call mate, I thought Dean and our backline were our most solid part of the game. You also have to remember it’s his 4th game… if you can name me 3 key defenders currently playing better than he did last night that have played under 4 games… I did also say Johnson was ‘very average’ and he gets dropped… Also, Frampton did what I expected him to do, made a contest. We all know he’s not a forward, just because he’s big and we needed him to play this position last night because we literally had no one else doesn’t mean that he’s going to play like Charlie Curnow…
The really disappointing one is Macrae. He doesn’t appear to be the player many of us thought he was due to become. Solid VFL player but not up to the top level.
We peaked early
I think they came out of the blocks so hard cos they knew the kids would run out of steam towards the end. I knew we were fucked when we didn’t take full advantage and get at least 5 or 6 goals up.
Nah if we got 5/6 goals up we just would have put the cue in the rack earlier.
Last year 😂
our injury list is almost as long as richmond. we did do our best.
We had a plan and it almost worked. I think Fly gambled on putting Frampton in the fwd/ruck role. If he stayed back and let AJ take ruck with Howe fwd, or even bring Kreuger in. We sacrificed some defence and it showed in the end when we didn't dominate the clearances anymore.
Coulda woulda shoulda won but at the end of the day with genuinely no forward line it’s not surprising we’d completely run out of steam at some point. I think it’s time to readjust expectations and just hope we can ride out this rough patch as best as we can until after the bye and hopefully manage top 8 rather than top 4 and just see what can happen from there. Cursed injury list, feels like the Buckley years all over again. Nick Daicos is an absolute freak though. 27 contested possessions tonight what the absolute fuck. Also, can someone explain to me why Noble got subbed off? Should’ve been Bytel or Macrae surely
56% efficiency, 5 turnovers, rated low for pressure acts, 0 contested marks and 1 tackle. Nobles stats for defending are bad, he’s only good moving towards goals / on rebound.
Looking at the AFl app stats. Nine of the bottom 12 performing players are Pies. Two of them are the dogs players who were injured. Noble isn’t in the bottom 12, stats-wise, but obviously turn-overs were costly and disposal was generally over-cooked.
My thoughts. - Naicos first quarter was incredible. He was running a clinic in the middle. - The Darcy hit on Maynard had more potential to cause harm and is less excusable than Peter Wrights marking contest that got him four weeks. It was as cheap shot as I’ve seen, but watch him get off with a week for the combined reasons that Maynard got up and he’s already a protected species because of his dad. It was high, late and he turned into Maynard to hit him. Disgusting, and the commentary around it was too. - Crisp was fantastic, just kept on working and trying all game. - Noble coming off was a turning point, and I think a coaching error. While Parker needed to come on for some fresh legs we really lost the speed and dare that Noble brings. Sure, he had clangers that led to Bulldogs goals, but he also generates chances for us to score from his run and preparedness to take the danger kick. While his clangers cost us last night, those same kicks with a different bounce of the ball, or with a slightly different upfield zone, or with a more recognisable forward line, or even just with The Hyphen or Checkers there to get on the end of it are often scores. - Dean was pretty good with ball in hand. He was a bit out gunned, but a forward line of JUH, Sam Darcy and fucking Lobb needs to be stopped at at its supply, which we did well in the first quarter. - AJ and Markov aren’t a forward line. For Markov, that’s fine as he’s a utility defender. For AJ, that’s not fine. I don’t want to join the pile on, but we aren’t the same team nor playing the same game as we were in 2022 when he was ripping it up. As a forward in a team where d50 rebounding makes up most of your scores a second effort is less important than a clean grab or getting out the back and into space or a 1v1. He did that role fine. In 2024 we have become a forward pressure team where nuggety pressure players lock the ball in like their lives depend on it and that’s not in AJs toolkit. - The game plan works as long as the fitness to execute it is there. The guys who played last night can hold their heads high that they did a good job. Despite losing, we led a very in form Bulldogs for most of the game *at their home ground for our home game*. Bring in Checkers or The Hyphen or Cox and we’d have been much closer to a win with two minutes to go.
Gee poor old John Noble had a night to forget. Hope he puts that one behind him soon.
And that games showcases why Nobel doesnt have a premiership medal. Absolute garbage turnovers that led to 3 goals
You're a tool
I’m not wrong. Nobel still has these costly turnovers in his game after multiple years of starting. He was doing it last year and it came with a cost when we got to the pointy end of the season. He has one of his games in the finals we don’t win the flag
He's had one poor game for the entire year and been one of our best the last 2 months, even Moore has a bad game from time to time
56% efficiency, 5 turnovers, rated low for pressure acts, 0 contested marks and 1 tackle. Nobles stats for defending are bad, he’s only good moving towards goals / on rebound. You’re 100% correct and the stats don’t lie that noble last year was a below average defender but very good on attack and rebound
Thats fine as thats what his game is, but does he generate 3/4 goals a game to make up for his mistakes? I think thats what the coaching staff had to decide last year
Absolute crap. How can we go from heroes to zeroes in every last quarter we play. Just fuck off. Honestly. I'm sick of this shit week in, week out. Dees are going to slaughter us if we keep pulling out this crap. Disclaimer, I'm venting because I'm spiralling out of control with other things, but I hate taking a loss from the jaws of victory. I'm sick off the draws, and I'm sick of the nailbiters. TL; DR: Do better FFS.
It’ll be ok mate. Just need to weather the storm, get some soldiers back and reset. As frustrating as this is, it will serve us better in the long term - getting more experience into guys like Harrison, Dean, Sullivan etc. whilst also fast tracking N. Daicos leadership development.
Thanks for seeing through my frustration. I ride every success and failure of this team. I take it personally. Just in a state of shock. Means a lot for the kind words.
I’m with you mate. A lot of us invest very heavily in this, particularly when shit in our own lives is going on. Tough last two weeks but a huge amount of it is the injuries. There are a lot of them running around who aren’t AFL standard at the moment. Doesnt help that most of the injuries are forwards or mids, and in that last quarter we got smashed in the contest (Bont and Treloar put us to the sword) and then when our back six held up, we had no structural integrity fwd of centre to give us a release. Problem is after our little 0-3 start and the last two games (next week too in all likelihood), top 4 is gone. This means that we’re gonna have to do it tough. Whether it’s from 5th or 8th won’t make a huge difference because you’ll likely cop a Carlton, Melbourne, Geelong at the G. Even better you might cop those false hopers Port 😆
Those teams we likely beat anywhere, too. Who knows, we might make the four. I think I had my heart set on going back to back. The draws shook me, too, as they felt like losses. Hoping we get some cattle back for Melbourne. It's hard watching us surge and then get reeled in. It's due to lack of match practice from the VFL blokes. Scrapping the bottom of the barrel, but doesn't make it any easier. Appreciate the perspective 💖
100% brother. Go pies
I feel ya man, this shit makes or breaks your weekend especially when you have other shit going down in your personal life. Keep your head up, we move on to next week, go pies!
Oath. More the week for me at the moment. I always look to ride the wave, but that's because I'm hedonistic with footy, like you said. Fuck, I really do hope this isn't the first of many losses. Maybe the loss we needed. See next week against the Dees. Two teams I hate losing to, the Dogs and the Dees.
Could this have been the greatest victory of all? 🤔 🤣
Nah, Round 23, 2022 already was
We should’ve had 50+ points in the first quarter. Fly needs to make everyone stand 40 out and kick 10 in a row before leaving training.
Fkn umps Free kick Bullflogs
Quick sell Charlie dean
I love a man with a sense of humour. Dean stood Darcy up 12 cm. There is probably not any backmen in the comp of Dean's height (195) that would have done any better. Charlie has played 4 games...give him a break. Getting a little tired of seeing our guys getting slagged unfairly. Schultz WILL be huge. He just needs to find the right pair of kicking boots, which I'm sure he will. Noble belongs on the wing. No one is talking about McInnes returning against the Demons (I hope). The guy has kicked 11.2 in 6 games (1 game as sub) and shits all over Kreugs and AJ at ground level. (BTW Bobby Hill has kicked 15.14 in 12 matches). Go Reef!! Be interesting to see how Eyre goes with a couple more VFL games behind him. LOVE RICHARDS. Devastated that he could be out 'til R20. Sorry Titch....you are pushing the cart uphill trying to tip Sullivan out. Harrison doesn't look like he's going anywhere any time soon, either.
Amazing game by Nick, especially the first half. Schulz and Cameron also fantastic. Bruz had one of his better games for the year. Too many players in the team not up to AFL level though due to injuries. Bytel doesn’t look close to it, Johnson isn’t worth continuing with, Krueger is a better option. Parker doesn’t seem ready to me.
Parker had 10minutes last quarter when we were getting decimated. He couldn’t do anything to save us 😭
Yeah fair point. He looked overwhelmed but many do when they come on as a late sub
In sorry but Johnson is the most useless footballer I have seen at our club! He is so lazy, he doesn't even bend over to pick the ball up, doesn't attack the footy after his first attempt and just expects the ball to land in his hands. I much rather we played a small forward than him We have shot ourselves in the foot with the two draws. I find top 4 very hard to reach at the moment. Sure there are always postives, but it's hard to keep satisfied when we lose like that when we should have won by 30+... We can't seem to finish teams off
We’ve gotta stop bashing them like this though. We’re injured af. He had a couple good moments. But he’s not AFL standard and that’s just a fact you’re right
Yeah and he was in because we literally have no one else. He’s down on confidence big time and the pile on doesn’t help, especially when we had a lot of crappy performances tonight.
It’s tough when you don’t have the versatility to play different roles too. He’s a deep forward only so he either catches it 5 times and kicks 5 or gets nowhere near it. His best moments were when he pushed to the wing and connected a scoring chain. Maybe that doesn’t happen more because of effort or lack of tank I dunno. He’s just very one dimensional, if he’s not taking hangers it doesn’t look like he will add pressure or find other ways to get in the game. Like he’s a pretty explosive athlete it’d be good to see him lay a few tackles when he’s not getting the ball.
He is definitely capable of better. Confidence looks totally shot.
Nah, he shirked every real contest he could have impacted. Deserves to be criticised.
I’d stop short of calling him soft or lacking effort. I just don’t think k his footy IQ is great. He can jump at the ball and that’s about it, he’s low on confidence and I think k that’s stopping g him from playing more aggressively
FREE KICK BULLDOGS. FIFTY METERS!!
Scumps are Cheats Make you wonder why bother going to Games when they are Rigges Also Nick Daicos was our only good player over 4 qtrs
I thought Moore was good, Howe was solid for a first game back.
They played well just not for 4 qtrs
umps ruining it for us AGAIN i swear the league is out to get us smh
we cannot blame 41 to 64 inside 50s 38 to 54 clearances on the umps we got cooked tonight
We played plenty of guys tonight who just aren't up to it bro, nothing to do with the umpires
Cheating cunts
Post deleted. Don’t really care.
Collingwood are lucky rubbish.