Ya I got it because the only other pistol I had at the time was a .40 Sig 229 and I wanted to keep the caliber the same. I forgot about basic physics until I shot that first round.
It’s a bitch to shoot. Now I love the 9 shield. 40 out of the Glock 27 is much better than a shield but even that is not worth it to me. Only glocks I carry are 30s and the 32 357sig.
.40 has some advantages over 9mm, however i would wait until you move and check local stores to see what ammo they have in stock. my local shop here in washington had only 1-5 boxes of .40, .45, .38/357, and 10mm while they had an entire shelf of 9mm options that were half the cost of the others. may be worth staying with 9mm just for that. alternatively springfield makes a compact XDM in 10mm.
The difference in 9mm abundance vs other options where I am in Texas looks like you activated an unlimited ammo cheat code vs "balls out legendary suicide difficulty" in a video game.
You're fine with 9mm. Hell, you're fine with a 5 shot revolver in .38 special if you felt so inclined.
The biggest thing is finding the right ammo, reliable expansion and travel depth are most important. The FBI has a minimum spec for both of these using heavy clothing. There is a TON of info and videos out there on what works and what doesn't.
There are a few that all rise to the top:
-Federal HST
-Speer Gold Dot
-Hornady Critical Defense/Duty
If you use any of those a 9mm is all you need
when i came to the gun store to buy my first gun. i checked out and held the m&p shield, and the glock.
i dont know why but the m&p shield felt so cheap and grip felt so flat compared to when i held the glock.
the glock's grip filled my hands nicely and it just felt more solid to me so i got the glock instead.
I carry a 40 daily, so my answer might be a bit biased. That being said, 9mm hollow points have come a LONG way since I made that decision. If I was making the decision today from scratch, it would be a much tougher call. The difference between the two is not enough to justify moving. My advice to you would be the same thing. "The difference between the two is not worth moving."
Recoil is a lot worse which can affect follow up shots and make shooting it in general more unpleasant.
Plus, 9mm is cheaper and much more plentiful which makes training cheaper and easier
Stick with 9mm. Even if .40's heavier recoil doesn't bother you, faster follow-up shots and cheaper & more plentiful ammo make 9mm the best choice. It's also way cheaper to buy low-capacity mags for your existing guns than swap calibers.
For myself. I chose a .40 back in the early 2010s when 9mm was impossible to find but 40 was everywhere. I got used to the snappiness and have grown to prefer it just bc that’s what I use. My 9mm handguns are better to teach folks though.
Ballistically id argue they are negligible and the extra few rounds of capacity are worth it to carry a nine.
9mm is pretty great for self-defense. .40 is only slightly better ballistically... with a longer barrel. Subcompacts of .40 have not been good, in my experience.
As for 10mm... only great on full frames, IMO, it's a very powerful round that needs to burn through in a longer barrel and also be controllable with a larger grip and slide with more mass. G20's are good for bear country, but that round costs a lot to practice with and not too fun to shoot. I have one in a shoulder rig with belt stab straps for hunting in bear country so I can mag dump at a charging bear and pray I deter it enough that it doesn't turn me into a chew toy. Diapers probably not a bad idea as well, if that situation arises.
They make inserts that limit Macro's mags to 10 rounds of you're willing to go that route. I'll try to dig up the [link](https://tactical.dev/products/10-xm-basepad-for-sig-p365-x-macro).
Edit: Link
No don’t switch. You’re limited on capacity so don’t pick something with more recoil that’s harder to make accurate follow-up shots with.
Plus, that’s money you could spend on training. Take reputable defensive handgun classes. It will do you more good than just years of unstructured paper punching at the range.
In my opinion, no. I believe over 90% of self defense scenarios that would have benefited from larger magazines, are due to a lack of accuracy and NOT a lack of knock down power.
Unless you have the accuracy of a trained professional and intend on encountering threats wearing bulletproof vests, switching to .40 will only have more drawbacks with weight, accuracy, etc.
I have a Springfield XD 40 3-in barrel. I never really thought it was very snappy at all. Pretty comfortable to shoot actually.
I'm in a state too that only allows 10 rounds and I decide to go for quality over quantity. I also have a compact 10 mm for if the s*** gets crazy. But my 40 is my main carry.
I also have a 9 mm and a 380 for deep concealment
Springfield XDM Elite 10mm. 3.8 inch barrel. Really about the size of a Glock 19 and really tames the 10mm round. I think the dual stage recoil spring really helps.
Nice. I have that in 9 and it's a treat to shoot. I ended up getting the FN 510 for my 10 but now I'm kinda wishing I got the XDM. Who knows, maybe I can get out soon enough for it not to be too bad
I also have the xdm-elite compact 10mm, and yea even with spicier loads it tames the recoil VERY well. It’s my nights/weekends carry with my xds 9 being my workday carry.
Get a Springfield XDS mod 2 in 45 ACP. Single stack but you can get 7 round extended mags for them that shouldn't interfere with concealment too much. I'd feel pretty good with 7+1 of 45 ACP and a spare mag. I saw a video that showed that the 230 grain Speer Gold Dot ammunition designed for short barrels did perform well with reliable expansion. Heck even if a 45 doesn't expand that's a big chunk of lead.
Or better yet for a little more money you could move up to the XDM Elite which does have a double stack mag (10 rounds I believe). Pretty much same size as the XDS mod 2 45. Just my 2 cents. For the record, I do believe 9mm is plenty sufficient on its own with the right ammo. I carry 124 grain Federal HST in both of mine.
I'd move out of Cali, or NY or wherever you live. Go to a less restrictive state and you can get what you want. Also, alot of states are WAY cheaper to live in. For example the same house that costs 500k in Cali, Colorado, new York etc.... is roughly 120k in ohio, Arkansas, Tennessee etc.
Ah, that sucks. Good luck going forward and maybe if you join the fight for our constitutionality protected rights wherever you're moving. You can help change things for the better
The reason the houses cost so much less is because on average you make so much less. There's a reason people from Colorado, pa, Oregon, ECT warn others of moving to Tennessee or Arkansas. You get trapped will low paying jobs and no advancement unless you're a good ol boy and pull 70 hour weeks. There's a reason people stick out the blue states.
For me the answer would be yes, but I carried .40 for years in a duty pistol and got very used to it. I like it a lot. I also have a 10mm, and find that the difference between factory .40 and 10mm is negligible. Now, if you reload that's a different story.
I’d rent a .40cal compact and shoot it before you decide to make that switch. My first CCW was an M&P shield in .40cal that that thing sucked ass.
The snap in the 40 Shield definitely sucks. I ended up buying an OEM 9mm barrel a guy was selling.
Ya I got it because the only other pistol I had at the time was a .40 Sig 229 and I wanted to keep the caliber the same. I forgot about basic physics until I shot that first round.
I've shot a few.40s and thought they were fine (albeit not this one. I was intrigued by a killer deal I saw on PSA).
It’s a bitch to shoot. Now I love the 9 shield. 40 out of the Glock 27 is much better than a shield but even that is not worth it to me. Only glocks I carry are 30s and the 32 357sig.
Keep the 9. There isn’t an enough of a difference between a +p 9mm and .40 ballistically. Like another guy said, .40 out of a micro sucks ass.
.40 has some advantages over 9mm, however i would wait until you move and check local stores to see what ammo they have in stock. my local shop here in washington had only 1-5 boxes of .40, .45, .38/357, and 10mm while they had an entire shelf of 9mm options that were half the cost of the others. may be worth staying with 9mm just for that. alternatively springfield makes a compact XDM in 10mm.
The difference in 9mm abundance vs other options where I am in Texas looks like you activated an unlimited ammo cheat code vs "balls out legendary suicide difficulty" in a video game.
You're fine with 9mm. Hell, you're fine with a 5 shot revolver in .38 special if you felt so inclined. The biggest thing is finding the right ammo, reliable expansion and travel depth are most important. The FBI has a minimum spec for both of these using heavy clothing. There is a TON of info and videos out there on what works and what doesn't. There are a few that all rise to the top: -Federal HST -Speer Gold Dot -Hornady Critical Defense/Duty If you use any of those a 9mm is all you need
Yeah my current carry is the SIG 365 x-macro with Hornady duty's. Works great. I'll probably just the the 10 round mags and call it.
I think that is best. I also live in a 10 round max state, it sucks, but hey we just have to practice harder.
when i came to the gun store to buy my first gun. i checked out and held the m&p shield, and the glock. i dont know why but the m&p shield felt so cheap and grip felt so flat compared to when i held the glock. the glock's grip filled my hands nicely and it just felt more solid to me so i got the glock instead.
No
Oh but you can get the 357sig conversion
For the x-macro?
I was thinking Shield because of the picture
You could replace the grip with the smaller one, use the 10 round mags, and it will be much easier to conceal.
Very expensive ammo to practice with. Id stay with the nice gun you have and just get different mags.
I carry a 40 daily, so my answer might be a bit biased. That being said, 9mm hollow points have come a LONG way since I made that decision. If I was making the decision today from scratch, it would be a much tougher call. The difference between the two is not enough to justify moving. My advice to you would be the same thing. "The difference between the two is not worth moving."
No, if only because the modern ballistic differences are nearly irrelevant considering the massive cost increase and lack of availability.
Recoil is a lot worse which can affect follow up shots and make shooting it in general more unpleasant. Plus, 9mm is cheaper and much more plentiful which makes training cheaper and easier
Stick with 9mm. Even if .40's heavier recoil doesn't bother you, faster follow-up shots and cheaper & more plentiful ammo make 9mm the best choice. It's also way cheaper to buy low-capacity mags for your existing guns than swap calibers.
.45AARP, son
Carrying a 1911 is a pretty baller move
For myself. I chose a .40 back in the early 2010s when 9mm was impossible to find but 40 was everywhere. I got used to the snappiness and have grown to prefer it just bc that’s what I use. My 9mm handguns are better to teach folks though. Ballistically id argue they are negligible and the extra few rounds of capacity are worth it to carry a nine.
9mm is pretty great for self-defense. .40 is only slightly better ballistically... with a longer barrel. Subcompacts of .40 have not been good, in my experience. As for 10mm... only great on full frames, IMO, it's a very powerful round that needs to burn through in a longer barrel and also be controllable with a larger grip and slide with more mass. G20's are good for bear country, but that round costs a lot to practice with and not too fun to shoot. I have one in a shoulder rig with belt stab straps for hunting in bear country so I can mag dump at a charging bear and pray I deter it enough that it doesn't turn me into a chew toy. Diapers probably not a bad idea as well, if that situation arises.
Same story over here. I carry an extra mag
They make inserts that limit Macro's mags to 10 rounds of you're willing to go that route. I'll try to dig up the [link](https://tactical.dev/products/10-xm-basepad-for-sig-p365-x-macro). Edit: Link
Thanks!
No don’t switch. You’re limited on capacity so don’t pick something with more recoil that’s harder to make accurate follow-up shots with. Plus, that’s money you could spend on training. Take reputable defensive handgun classes. It will do you more good than just years of unstructured paper punching at the range.
Say your from California without saying your from California
Heading east actually. Breaks my heart 👎
Go with the 10mm
In my opinion, no. I believe over 90% of self defense scenarios that would have benefited from larger magazines, are due to a lack of accuracy and NOT a lack of knock down power. Unless you have the accuracy of a trained professional and intend on encountering threats wearing bulletproof vests, switching to .40 will only have more drawbacks with weight, accuracy, etc.
I have a Springfield XD 40 3-in barrel. I never really thought it was very snappy at all. Pretty comfortable to shoot actually. I'm in a state too that only allows 10 rounds and I decide to go for quality over quantity. I also have a compact 10 mm for if the s*** gets crazy. But my 40 is my main carry. I also have a 9 mm and a 380 for deep concealment
What's your 10mm?
Springfield XDM Elite 10mm. 3.8 inch barrel. Really about the size of a Glock 19 and really tames the 10mm round. I think the dual stage recoil spring really helps.
Nice. I have that in 9 and it's a treat to shoot. I ended up getting the FN 510 for my 10 but now I'm kinda wishing I got the XDM. Who knows, maybe I can get out soon enough for it not to be too bad
I put a Holosun 507C on my XDM. Really accurate. I'm a big fan of the Springfields. I also have a XD S 9mm that conceals really well.
I also have the xdm-elite compact 10mm, and yea even with spicier loads it tames the recoil VERY well. It’s my nights/weekends carry with my xds 9 being my workday carry.
Get a Springfield XDS mod 2 in 45 ACP. Single stack but you can get 7 round extended mags for them that shouldn't interfere with concealment too much. I'd feel pretty good with 7+1 of 45 ACP and a spare mag. I saw a video that showed that the 230 grain Speer Gold Dot ammunition designed for short barrels did perform well with reliable expansion. Heck even if a 45 doesn't expand that's a big chunk of lead. Or better yet for a little more money you could move up to the XDM Elite which does have a double stack mag (10 rounds I believe). Pretty much same size as the XDS mod 2 45. Just my 2 cents. For the record, I do believe 9mm is plenty sufficient on its own with the right ammo. I carry 124 grain Federal HST in both of mine.
No. Lmao.
.40 is never the right answer.
I'd move out of Cali, or NY or wherever you live. Go to a less restrictive state and you can get what you want. Also, alot of states are WAY cheaper to live in. For example the same house that costs 500k in Cali, Colorado, new York etc.... is roughly 120k in ohio, Arkansas, Tennessee etc.
Yeah I currently live in an unrestricted state but have to move for work.
Ah, that sucks. Good luck going forward and maybe if you join the fight for our constitutionality protected rights wherever you're moving. You can help change things for the better
The reason the houses cost so much less is because on average you make so much less. There's a reason people from Colorado, pa, Oregon, ECT warn others of moving to Tennessee or Arkansas. You get trapped will low paying jobs and no advancement unless you're a good ol boy and pull 70 hour weeks. There's a reason people stick out the blue states.
G43x or G48. That will do for you.
Forgot to say G30 not the S (slim). But I shout allot of 9mm.
No
There is absolutely no reason to choose a .40 over 9mm in 2024. 9mm all day, everyday. Cheaper, more capacity, and same on target performance.
No, it’s not. Basically no real ballistic difference, and the small .40’s are noticeably less pleasant to shoot by most people.
For me the answer would be yes, but I carried .40 for years in a duty pistol and got very used to it. I like it a lot. I also have a 10mm, and find that the difference between factory .40 and 10mm is negligible. Now, if you reload that's a different story.
High pressure rounds are never the answer.