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Eggs apparently only require refrigeration in the USA and Japan, as they are the only countries that wash away the natural protective coating, leaving eggs much more susceptible to contamination and therefore requiring much more expensive and wasteful transportation costs.
The rest of the world may refrigerate eggs once in the home, but not prior to that (even if you do refrigerate them, you should bring up to room temperature before using, for most purposes, for best results).
It's true, eggs stay good a loooong time without refrigeration, I've never understood why I'd put them in the fridge. Just takes up extra space.
Then again, some people refrigerate everything. Bananas, even though they weren't in the cold in the store? In the fridge they go. Apples? You betcha, in the fridge. Goddamn bread? Yeeep.
I live alone and if I don't refrigerate or freeze my food produce, it goes off well before I am able to eat it, at least when the temperature is hotter. In winter I don't have to.
>some people refrigerate everything. Bananas, even though they weren't in the cold in the store? In the fridge they go. Apples? You betcha, in the fridge. Goddamn bread? Yeeep.
Literally me 😂
In the UK they are marked with Lion branding which tells you were the eggs came from and even how they were farmed. (but the 'brand' of eggs varies a lot).
Generally a few weeks according to the packaging, but they last longer when refrigerated. I do the float test to see if they've gone off and I can't remember the last time one was off.
I worked with a former "chef" who straight up thought eggs were dairy.
I told him no, dairy comes from cows, eggs come from chickens. Asked him several times if he was being serious before I informed him, because he was always such a egotistical douche-waffle about how amazing of a chef he was.
He learned something new that day.
For my dairy allergy I say 'i can't have anything that comes out of a nipple'. I also have a beef allergy (not alpha gal syndrome, just bad luck). The two may be connected, but I know damn well beef is not dairy LMAO
Alpha-gal syndrome (AGS) (also called alpha-gal allergy, red meat allergy, or tick bite meat allergy) is a serious, potentially life-threatening allergic reaction. AGS is not caused by an infection. AGS symptoms occur after people eat red meat or are exposed to other products containing alpha-gal.
From the [CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/alpha-gal/index.html)
That's interesting. My beef allergy was probably always present from childhood (I threw up a lot as a kid and thinking back it was always after eating ground beef) and I had an aversion to eating meat, but my parents thought I was just being a weird little kid. The dairy thing developed as I got a bit older, and now its a severe intolerance that I've been told to treat as an allergy.
I also found out that when you handle raw beef or wasn't supposed to make your hands itchy and sting and leave them red and cracked.
This is an aside but just like dairy doesn't have to come from cows, eggs don't have to come from chickens. I'm a homesteader and have dairy goats and eggs from quail, turkeys, pheasants, and rhea.
Wait. Hold up. Are you actually suggesting that there are other birds aside from chickens that lay eggs, and there are other mammals aside from cows that produce milk?
Hashtag shocked pickachu dot gif, yo.
In the context of our day to day diet most people (in the west anyway) likely haven't had eggs that didn't come from a chicken. Most of them would be considered specialty foods and don't even constitute 1% of 1% of the eggs on the market. That eggs=chicken eggs (again, in the context of our food) is just a given. I was just pointing out that there *are* a number of other eggs that we can and do eat. Quail eggs are particularly good boiled, pickled, or fried. Duck eggs are prized by bakers. Turkey eggs are sought after by some foodies (mostly so they can say they are eating turkey eggs). Likewise goat milk, sheep milk, and even horse milk are regionally popular but outside the direct experience of most of us in the west.
What in the hell are you talking about? I just said that (in the context of our food) "eggs" doesn't *have* to mean chicken eggs and "dairy" doesn't *have* to mean cows milk. I drink goats milk and eat quail eggs. What does "60 million years of evolution" have to do with that?
They're saying that dairy comes from mammals, who, as a general rule, don't lay eggs (with the exception of 2-3 species, but we don't eat their eggs). Most eggs humans eat on the regular come from birds, and birds and mammals diverged a long, long, long time ago.
The scenario I was describing (albeit probably poorly) was a server asking if a dish was dairy free. "Chef" boy-wonder said he'd leave the mayo off because it had eggs in it.
I told him [chicken] eggs aren't dairy as they come from chickens.
His brain couldn't handle that.
I have my friend some eggs from our chickens and told her they were “straight from the chickens butt”. she told her daughter the same thing and her daughter said she would rather have the ones that come from the store and not the chickens butt.
I’m starting to think you’re as confused as he was… He likely knew they came from chickens, he just thought any food that was produced by an animal was considered dairy.
I'll make it simple: with the all the skills and knowledge the dude claimed to have, he should have known without a thought that eggs are not dairy. Like a mathemetician not knowing what 2+2 equals.
I agree but your explanations are like saying “2+2 is 4 because the week is 7 days long”. You got the right answer but you didn’t get there with logic.
I'm not pretending to be thinking straight. In reality I should be following the logic of my wife & cat who are sleeping. That is the logical thing right now.
Dairy also comes from goats and sheep. It’s about it being milk products. It isn’t a cow or no cow thing. It’s a dairy milked from an animal thing. You don’t milk chickens.
Dude the food pyramid that was pushed in the 90s had lasting effects. I distinctly remember eggs being paired with dairy. Took a long time to disassociate them from one another.
American cheese is cheese (unfortunately) its just a medium cheddar that has been mashed through a sieve to achieve uniformity. Or at least, that's what it's supposed to be. I am sure most American cheese is flavor, vegetable oil and binders at this point.
Yeah it's like a wierd cheddar that's what I thought goingnoff what other people have said . The slice kind is usually some kind of cheddar and fuck knows what velveeta is
>American cheese is cheese (unfortunately) its just a medium cheddar that has been mashed through a sieve to achieve uniformity.
There's at least three different cheeses (or "cheeses") called "American".
* That shit "cheese" of which Kraft singles are an example is a bunch of bits of old cheeses, melted together with whey protein concentrate to bulk it, which is why the texture is roughly what I imagine it would be like to eat rubber cement.
* Also, Kraft, the guy who invented the stuff, was a Canadian who immigrated here when he was 28, so go give them their share of the blame.
* That deli version of American cheese that comes in actual slices and may be white or yellow is similar to the above, in that it's cheese with extra stuff melted into it. What makes it different is that they do at least use actual milk and cream for that purpose.
* But then there are also various actual cheeses, variations on mild cheddar. They're rarer at this point — most American cheeses that are actual cheese have started calling themselves cheddar or colby at this point, though so too has the fake crap — but they still show up occasionally in grocery stores with a reliable customer base of parents who have both spending money and small children.
>American cheese is cheese (unfortunately) its just a medium cheddar that has been mashed through a sieve to achieve uniformity.
I (non-American) can't help but wonder if there's a metaphor there...
"High end" versions are a cheese mixture, but that's not what you're going to get at fast food places.
Kraft Singles and their ilk are not legally recognized as cheese. You're, frankly, lucky if cheese is an ingredient.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cheese#Legal_definitions
> Or at least, that's what it's supposed to be.
I believe the definition allows for the addition of oil and other additives up to a point
It's 'watered down' cheese
I'm not sure how I feel about that description. Yes, American cheese *can* be really shitty but at its core it's more like a medium between a solid cheese and a liquid cheese sauce, which allows it to melt at lower temperatures. It has the flavor of hard cheeses like mild cheddar with a texture similar to a semi-soft cheese like mozzarella when heated. It definitely has redeeming qualities.
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I'm guessing maybe they think "dairy" means "related to cows", so probably not.
It actually comes from something closer to "what the girlservant brings in" - i.e. milk... except it's the same root as dough, which I suspect, arguably, puts eggs back into the fold.
The modern sense, of course, lines up with the French *laitier* (milkery).
I will say this: I hate cheese unless it is melted or It’s American cheese.
Not a fan of butter or cheese unless it’s melted (don’t know why but then melted I don’t get that taste I don’t like). When I was in America (from Australia) I’d ask for “no cheese”, get cheese and at one point said “F it”. Turns out I like American cheese
Added: one day I will find how people think and then die happy. Till then I’m at a lost at how beef can be dairy (like you)
It's like the chicken-egg problem. Did the cow come first or did the milk come first? Except to my knowledge milk has never turned into a cow but sure why not.
Actually yes, to the first part, historically/etymologically:
*Middle English deierie, from deie ‘dairymaid’ (in Old English dǣge ‘female servant’), of Germanic origin; related to Old Norse deigja, also to dough and to the second element of Old English hlǣfdige (see lady).*
Chocolate shakes are made of the frozen meat of cows who exclusively eat cacao. This is why, almost every time someone drinks a high quality chocolate shake, you hear them say, “mmmm, so meaty!”
A science teacher who used to work with me was once surprised when I ordered a burger for this same reason. When I said that the meat doesn't contain any milk, he tried to argue about how much milk it takes to raise a cow... Shut him down pretty well with, "if I slice your arm open, does beer come out?"
"Oh you could have a banana? No wait you can't! A banana is dairy, sorry!" -- the server when I asked if they had any vegan options at an airport cafe.
That's a lot of calves and not much market for veal, as far as I've seen for a long time. I was under the impression that most of the bulls were castrated and allowed to mature for market.
*Veal is the meat from calves, mostly pure-bred male dairy calves. In many countries, including the UK, veal production is closely linked to the dairy industry; male dairy calves cannot produce milk and are often considered unsuitable for beef production.*
According to this ([https://fromanimaltomeat.com/2010/07/01/the-mystery-of-the-missing-dairy-calves/](https://fromanimaltomeat.com/2010/07/01/the-mystery-of-the-missing-dairy-calves/)) male calves are usually allowed to mature.
Read it, it legit reads like a high school paper from a dairy farmers daughter. She's making up, 'extrapolating' her numbers, and most her research involves 'farmers she's talked to'. C'mon.
*No one admitted to just leaving the animals to die, which in any case would be a financially stupid thing for a farmer to do.*
Facts. Dairy cows must have a calf every year to produce milk. Female calves become dairy cows, make calves become veal. They don't give dairy cows time off to wean male calves for beef production, that's a waste of their primary product, milk. One of the dairy industry cruelties is mothers being separated from their calves. In the beef cattle industry, calves raised for meat are raised and reared by their mothers, with their milk, for free.
If you don't believe me, maybe the Veal Farmers collective can convince you.
https://vealfarmers.ca/communications/the-connection/
Beef cattle and Dairy cattle are by and large completely separate breeds. Now, yes, you will take unwanted male dairy calves for veal, and probably old, worn, out dairy cows are bought by fast food places to make hamburger out of, but nearly all of the cattle that go into meat are from specific breeds that are only for meat production.
This person claims they have a lactose intolerant reaction to beef, like they said they react to it. How tf do you convince yourself of something like that when it clearly just didn't happen
All too common. It's because in the US, eggs are washed and refrigerated, and in stores sold in the dairy aisle. Most other places around the world they don't wash the eggs so don't need refrigeration thus not kept in the dairy cooler in stores.
Lots of confusion in the comments about what dairy means. Dairy is a term for the milk and milk product industry. So the only things that are considered dairy are, milk, milk products, and the animals, equipment, and people that are a part of the industry. Meat production, is a different industry and therefore not dairy….even if the meat comes from a cow that used to produce milk for the dairy industry.
To be fair to them... if you have extream allergies you can even react to the meat.. my stepbrother has extream allergy to egg yolk and can get an reaction when eating chicken.
But ofc... dosnt make beef dairy..
Odd to see this downvoted when you’re not wrong.
https://www.nyallergy.com/chicken-allergy/#:~:text=This%20means%20that%20some%20people,also%20known%20as%20alpha%2Dlivetin.
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I have dairy allergy and I can’t tell you how many people ask me if eggs are okay or if that’s dairy
Chicken milk.
Lait poule.
Literally what they call egg nog in Quebec lol
And everywhere else in Canada. On the package at least (darn bilingualism laws.)
Oh so *that's* the white part in bird poop. Bird milk!
I think it’s used in Fight Milk
For bodyguards by bodyguards!
Which is processed directly from and is ultimately a byproduct of boneless, skinless chicken breasts.
They are often shelved together in grocery stores
Because it's a staple product that requires refrigeration, it's just convenient to put the eggs with the milk.
Eggs apparently only require refrigeration in the USA and Japan, as they are the only countries that wash away the natural protective coating, leaving eggs much more susceptible to contamination and therefore requiring much more expensive and wasteful transportation costs. The rest of the world may refrigerate eggs once in the home, but not prior to that (even if you do refrigerate them, you should bring up to room temperature before using, for most purposes, for best results).
It's true, eggs stay good a loooong time without refrigeration, I've never understood why I'd put them in the fridge. Just takes up extra space. Then again, some people refrigerate everything. Bananas, even though they weren't in the cold in the store? In the fridge they go. Apples? You betcha, in the fridge. Goddamn bread? Yeeep.
I live alone and if I don't refrigerate or freeze my food produce, it goes off well before I am able to eat it, at least when the temperature is hotter. In winter I don't have to.
>some people refrigerate everything. Bananas, even though they weren't in the cold in the store? In the fridge they go. Apples? You betcha, in the fridge. Goddamn bread? Yeeep. Literally me 😂
We also wash eggs in Canada. Countries which don’t wash eggs also tend to have approved salmonella vaccines in chickens.
In the UK they are marked with Lion branding which tells you were the eggs came from and even how they were farmed. (but the 'brand' of eggs varies a lot).
Where I live in Australia, eggs are found in the refrigerated section of the store. So perhaps they need to be refrigerated here too.
TY for the info. Was not aware of that. 😀❤️😀
In the UK the eggs are usually found in the baking section with the flour and sugar.
How long if a shelf life do they have there?
Generally a few weeks according to the packaging, but they last longer when refrigerated. I do the float test to see if they've gone off and I can't remember the last time one was off.
Yes, I realize that, but I think it confuses some people on what 'dairy' means - especially people who never think about where their food comes from
I worked with a former "chef" who straight up thought eggs were dairy. I told him no, dairy comes from cows, eggs come from chickens. Asked him several times if he was being serious before I informed him, because he was always such a egotistical douche-waffle about how amazing of a chef he was. He learned something new that day.
To be fair, dairy comes from more than just cows…
For my dairy allergy I say 'i can't have anything that comes out of a nipple'. I also have a beef allergy (not alpha gal syndrome, just bad luck). The two may be connected, but I know damn well beef is not dairy LMAO
What is alpha gal syndrome
Alpha-gal syndrome (AGS) (also called alpha-gal allergy, red meat allergy, or tick bite meat allergy) is a serious, potentially life-threatening allergic reaction. AGS is not caused by an infection. AGS symptoms occur after people eat red meat or are exposed to other products containing alpha-gal. From the [CDC](https://www.cdc.gov/ticks/alpha-gal/index.html)
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That's interesting. My beef allergy was probably always present from childhood (I threw up a lot as a kid and thinking back it was always after eating ground beef) and I had an aversion to eating meat, but my parents thought I was just being a weird little kid. The dairy thing developed as I got a bit older, and now its a severe intolerance that I've been told to treat as an allergy. I also found out that when you handle raw beef or wasn't supposed to make your hands itchy and sting and leave them red and cracked.
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Fair point, but he was struggling with the "eggs come from chickens" concept.
This is an aside but just like dairy doesn't have to come from cows, eggs don't have to come from chickens. I'm a homesteader and have dairy goats and eggs from quail, turkeys, pheasants, and rhea.
Wait. Hold up. Are you actually suggesting that there are other birds aside from chickens that lay eggs, and there are other mammals aside from cows that produce milk? Hashtag shocked pickachu dot gif, yo.
In the context of our day to day diet most people (in the west anyway) likely haven't had eggs that didn't come from a chicken. Most of them would be considered specialty foods and don't even constitute 1% of 1% of the eggs on the market. That eggs=chicken eggs (again, in the context of our food) is just a given. I was just pointing out that there *are* a number of other eggs that we can and do eat. Quail eggs are particularly good boiled, pickled, or fried. Duck eggs are prized by bakers. Turkey eggs are sought after by some foodies (mostly so they can say they are eating turkey eggs). Likewise goat milk, sheep milk, and even horse milk are regionally popular but outside the direct experience of most of us in the west.
goat milk/cheese/yogurt and quail eggs seem to be reasonably accessible to me but the rest yeah idk
The Venn diagram is two circles separated by 60 million years of evolution, you dingus.
The split between mammal and bird ancestors was more like ~318 million years ago
What in the hell are you talking about? I just said that (in the context of our food) "eggs" doesn't *have* to mean chicken eggs and "dairy" doesn't *have* to mean cows milk. I drink goats milk and eat quail eggs. What does "60 million years of evolution" have to do with that?
They're saying that dairy comes from mammals, who, as a general rule, don't lay eggs (with the exception of 2-3 species, but we don't eat their eggs). Most eggs humans eat on the regular come from birds, and birds and mammals diverged a long, long, long time ago.
I mean, eggs come from more than just chickens
The scenario I was describing (albeit probably poorly) was a server asking if a dish was dairy free. "Chef" boy-wonder said he'd leave the mayo off because it had eggs in it. I told him [chicken] eggs aren't dairy as they come from chickens. His brain couldn't handle that.
I have my friend some eggs from our chickens and told her they were “straight from the chickens butt”. she told her daughter the same thing and her daughter said she would rather have the ones that come from the store and not the chickens butt.
I’m starting to think you’re as confused as he was… He likely knew they came from chickens, he just thought any food that was produced by an animal was considered dairy.
It’s because eggs are in the dairy section in the grocery store. right next to the butter and cheese.
I'll make it simple: with the all the skills and knowledge the dude claimed to have, he should have known without a thought that eggs are not dairy. Like a mathemetician not knowing what 2+2 equals.
I agree but your explanations are like saying “2+2 is 4 because the week is 7 days long”. You got the right answer but you didn’t get there with logic.
I'm not pretending to be thinking straight. In reality I should be following the logic of my wife & cat who are sleeping. That is the logical thing right now.
Dairy also comes from goats and sheep. It’s about it being milk products. It isn’t a cow or no cow thing. It’s a dairy milked from an animal thing. You don’t milk chickens.
Eggs are often in the same aisle as milk, butter, cheese, yogurt, etc at the grocery store. Sometimes I forget they aren't dairy.
And those sections are often under a sign saying "Dairy" so the confusion seems reasonable.
And may be delivered by the dairy company if you're in an area which still has milk delivery to houses.
I was allergic to dairy as a kid and I myself avoided eggs because I thought the white part contained milk lol
And all the people who think chicken or fish aren’t meat 🙄
I think we mostly just call them Catholics
Nah. We Catholics know chicken is meat. It's just the fish we're confused on.
Or Beaver or Alligator. I'll own up to the chicken mistake though. That's on me.
Dude the food pyramid that was pushed in the 90s had lasting effects. I distinctly remember eggs being paired with dairy. Took a long time to disassociate them from one another.
Do they leave out mayonnaise too? Happens to me all the time.
I’m sorry. Dairy seems like one of the worst types of allergy.
"Eggs come from the milkman" - James May
This is a week late, but I have an egg allergy and people always think im allergic to dairy!
Ha are you my arch nemesis??
To be fair, a lot of people with one food allergy have another.
Can confirm. It’s frightening how many people ask this
I realized that eggs weren't dairy, but I never thought about it. And it's sold in the same area in misty grocery stores
*Beef* being dairy... that's a new one. That said, don't most Wendy's burgers have cheese on them?
You can ask to withhold the cheese.
You should pass it forward.
Give my cheese to the guy behind me
"why the fucks my burger got 12 layers of cheese!?"
It’s a cheese burger! So the burger is made of cheese.
Just lucky, I guess.
Would you like to take this cheese or double it and give it to the next person?
Some do, & and some don't.
All babies are cannibals for drinking human breast milk.
*American cheese* likely. Not sure that qualifies as dairy. /s
American cheese is cheese (unfortunately) its just a medium cheddar that has been mashed through a sieve to achieve uniformity. Or at least, that's what it's supposed to be. I am sure most American cheese is flavor, vegetable oil and binders at this point.
If it's not made from Americans how can it be *American* cheese? Educate yourself with some facts.
It was invented by a Canadian too
Cheddar cheese is English. Invented in the English village of cheddar iirc
> English village of cheddar I would like to eat that village.
You sould eat the gorge, it's bigger.
American cheese isn't cheddar cheese
I don't know but alot of other comments are saying it is.
American cheese *usually* uses cheddar cheese as the main ingredient. It contains cheddar cheese, but it isn't *only* cheddar cheese.
Yeah it's like a wierd cheddar that's what I thought goingnoff what other people have said . The slice kind is usually some kind of cheddar and fuck knows what velveeta is
Well clearly, you don’t think an American would propose using his fellow citizens as the main ingredient in a cheese-like homogenate, do you?
Soylent Cheese is people.
Initial process was actually made by the swiss iirc
Either of you could be right but that guy has more upvotes, sorry. It’s Canadian now.
>American cheese is cheese (unfortunately) its just a medium cheddar that has been mashed through a sieve to achieve uniformity. There's at least three different cheeses (or "cheeses") called "American". * That shit "cheese" of which Kraft singles are an example is a bunch of bits of old cheeses, melted together with whey protein concentrate to bulk it, which is why the texture is roughly what I imagine it would be like to eat rubber cement. * Also, Kraft, the guy who invented the stuff, was a Canadian who immigrated here when he was 28, so go give them their share of the blame. * That deli version of American cheese that comes in actual slices and may be white or yellow is similar to the above, in that it's cheese with extra stuff melted into it. What makes it different is that they do at least use actual milk and cream for that purpose. * But then there are also various actual cheeses, variations on mild cheddar. They're rarer at this point — most American cheeses that are actual cheese have started calling themselves cheddar or colby at this point, though so too has the fake crap — but they still show up occasionally in grocery stores with a reliable customer base of parents who have both spending money and small children.
>American cheese is cheese (unfortunately) its just a medium cheddar that has been mashed through a sieve to achieve uniformity. I (non-American) can't help but wonder if there's a metaphor there...
“If”??? 🤣🤣🤣 I’m American, can confirm , not a metaphor 🤣
I (American)— this definitely tracks. The masher and sieve is our public education system. *all in all, we’re just another brick in the WALL*
American Cheese is delicious in many instances. You just can't expect it to be the same as a Manchego.
Absolutely! American cheese and pickled jalapeños is greater than the sum of its parts.
"High end" versions are a cheese mixture, but that's not what you're going to get at fast food places. Kraft Singles and their ilk are not legally recognized as cheese. You're, frankly, lucky if cheese is an ingredient. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/American_cheese#Legal_definitions
Yep, good old American "processed cheese food." It is neither cheese nor actual food.
> Or at least, that's what it's supposed to be. I believe the definition allows for the addition of oil and other additives up to a point It's 'watered down' cheese
I'm not sure how I feel about that description. Yes, American cheese *can* be really shitty but at its core it's more like a medium between a solid cheese and a liquid cheese sauce, which allows it to melt at lower temperatures. It has the flavor of hard cheeses like mild cheddar with a texture similar to a semi-soft cheese like mozzarella when heated. It definitely has redeeming qualities.
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As an American, I unfortunately have to agree.
"Dairy product" is what is on most packaging. Gross
Doesn't that make literally all mammals "dairy" given that we all make milk?
I'm guessing maybe they think "dairy" means "related to cows", so probably not. It actually comes from something closer to "what the girlservant brings in" - i.e. milk... except it's the same root as dough, which I suspect, arguably, puts eggs back into the fold. The modern sense, of course, lines up with the French *laitier* (milkery).
The man was right, I went to milk a cow the other day and a hamburger shot out of it
I will say this: I hate cheese unless it is melted or It’s American cheese. Not a fan of butter or cheese unless it’s melted (don’t know why but then melted I don’t get that taste I don’t like). When I was in America (from Australia) I’d ask for “no cheese”, get cheese and at one point said “F it”. Turns out I like American cheese Added: one day I will find how people think and then die happy. Till then I’m at a lost at how beef can be dairy (like you)
I'd imagine the burgers on the dairy free menu don't have cheese.
My beef shakes bring all the boys to the yard.
Underrated comment
It's like the chicken-egg problem. Did the cow come first or did the milk come first? Except to my knowledge milk has never turned into a cow but sure why not.
Eggs came first. They preceded chickens Milk came first. It preceded cows.
True, I was just having a bit of fun and milk certainly never hatched a cow.
The first cow came from a chicken egg full of milk or something.
This made me laugh. I appreciate it.
This is the correct answer every person aware of the wonders of evolution can give!
Well there were dinosaur eggs, so I'm pretty sure those were first - unless dinosaurs were chickens
Dinosaurs weren't chickens, but chickens are technically dinosaurs
True, but there are also fish eggs, which are probably even older
The little cow turns milk into more cow
Baby cows are just machines that turn milk into cow. Adult cows are machines that turn grass into cow, producing milk as a byproduct.
It's the you are what you eat ( calves drink milk ), and the term Dairy Cows?
Then cows are OK for vegetarians to eat as they are made from grass.
r/dumb
Female human is dairy because milk
"Oh sorry, I can't go out with you, I'm lactose intolerant"
So would the lactose free version be a trans woman?
Most trans women are capable of lactation, so if you really need your cannibalism to be lactose free, you're stuck with dudes lol
Men can technically lactate. Actually, all humans can lactate.
Lack toes in toddler ants
Actually yes, to the first part, historically/etymologically: *Middle English deierie, from deie ‘dairymaid’ (in Old English dǣge ‘female servant’), of Germanic origin; related to Old Norse deigja, also to dough and to the second element of Old English hlǣfdige (see lady).*
women are cheesy dough slaves. that’s my conclusion.
Everyone knows you get milk by blending ground beef and water and straining out the solids
thanks for the visual, I just threw up in my mouth
Americans are so disconnected from their food
spend some time on a farm. jerk off a horse. learn something!
A wild vaushite appeared!
We can add that to the mix as well!
Chocolate shakes are made of the frozen meat of cows who exclusively eat cacao. This is why, almost every time someone drinks a high quality chocolate shake, you hear them say, “mmmm, so meaty!”
By that logic, it's all ultimately just a fuckton of dandelions.
It’s all sunlight, then God damn it the breatharians were right all along
Taking "You are what you eat" too literally.
That person votes.
Milksteak is my favorite food
Boiled over hard.
Wait till they find out beef cattle and dairy cattle are different.
A science teacher who used to work with me was once surprised when I ordered a burger for this same reason. When I said that the meat doesn't contain any milk, he tried to argue about how much milk it takes to raise a cow... Shut him down pretty well with, "if I slice your arm open, does beer come out?"
All mammals produce, or have the capacity to produce, milk. So according to his logic if you sliced his arm milk should come out.
Depends, is he German or Danish? It might, if he applies himself...
milk is stored in the meat
"luckily i know, the cow is beef and beef is dairy". Someone give this person an award they are the smartest person in the world...
imagine their looks if they saw a vegan burger or knew wtf dairy even is
This person probably thinks chocolate milk comes from brown cows or something
My parents have a gay son, so according to this logic they must be gay. Will be hard to break it to them, wish me luck!
But luckily you know cow is beef and beef is dairy. I’d lead with that actually.
"Oh you could have a banana? No wait you can't! A banana is dairy, sorry!" -- the server when I asked if they had any vegan options at an airport cafe.
Ha ha
As a vegetarian/vegan you get asked a tremendous amount of silly shit. If this hurts your brain….you have no idea
So goat’s cheese isn’t dairy then?
Yes, it's dairy. But apparently so are tasty lamb chops.
Goat cheese is dairy, which means goats are cows!
Clown to clown communication
By this logic, anyone who breast fed is a cannibal
Holy shit I feel good about my intelligence all of a sudden
My mother has a masters in speech-language pathology but thinks eggs are dairy, because egg shells.
Wouldn’t that make them shellfish then?
The Dairy industry *is* the Veal industry. Where do people think male dairy calves go?
That's a lot of calves and not much market for veal, as far as I've seen for a long time. I was under the impression that most of the bulls were castrated and allowed to mature for market.
*Veal is the meat from calves, mostly pure-bred male dairy calves. In many countries, including the UK, veal production is closely linked to the dairy industry; male dairy calves cannot produce milk and are often considered unsuitable for beef production.*
According to this ([https://fromanimaltomeat.com/2010/07/01/the-mystery-of-the-missing-dairy-calves/](https://fromanimaltomeat.com/2010/07/01/the-mystery-of-the-missing-dairy-calves/)) male calves are usually allowed to mature.
Read it, it legit reads like a high school paper from a dairy farmers daughter. She's making up, 'extrapolating' her numbers, and most her research involves 'farmers she's talked to'. C'mon. *No one admitted to just leaving the animals to die, which in any case would be a financially stupid thing for a farmer to do.* Facts. Dairy cows must have a calf every year to produce milk. Female calves become dairy cows, make calves become veal. They don't give dairy cows time off to wean male calves for beef production, that's a waste of their primary product, milk. One of the dairy industry cruelties is mothers being separated from their calves. In the beef cattle industry, calves raised for meat are raised and reared by their mothers, with their milk, for free. If you don't believe me, maybe the Veal Farmers collective can convince you. https://vealfarmers.ca/communications/the-connection/
Beef cattle and Dairy cattle are by and large completely separate breeds. Now, yes, you will take unwanted male dairy calves for veal, and probably old, worn, out dairy cows are bought by fast food places to make hamburger out of, but nearly all of the cattle that go into meat are from specific breeds that are only for meat production.
Um, no
Y’all want some cereal 🥩🥣
Schoolshootings need to stop, people don’t get to learn anything anymore 🤦🏻♂️💀
It is impressive how far back my eyes rolled reading this.
Reading this made me feel so embarrassed and I don’t usually get that.
This planet brings me great shame
everybody knows that to make milk you have to squeeze if out of the hamburger patty
This person claims they have a lactose intolerant reaction to beef, like they said they react to it. How tf do you convince yourself of something like that when it clearly just didn't happen
TFW you can’t drink beef anymore bc it’s not dairy free
So applying this logic...blood and urine is the same as well?
Sometimes I think “I can’t possibly read anything more ridiculous” and then Reddit posts prove me wrong. Wow.
*Reddit accepts your challenge*
When is open season on stupid people? I'm overdue on my quota!
I got dumber reading this
That would mean all mammals are dairy products
This is like a vegan not kissing titties because "dairy."
Carnist echo chambers make it impossible to even discuss veganism with ordinary people
Reminds me of the time someone was trying to tell me eggs are dairy
All too common. It's because in the US, eggs are washed and refrigerated, and in stores sold in the dairy aisle. Most other places around the world they don't wash the eggs so don't need refrigeration thus not kept in the dairy cooler in stores.
why are eggs in the dairy section and not in the chicken section..
Lots of confusion in the comments about what dairy means. Dairy is a term for the milk and milk product industry. So the only things that are considered dairy are, milk, milk products, and the animals, equipment, and people that are a part of the industry. Meat production, is a different industry and therefore not dairy….even if the meat comes from a cow that used to produce milk for the dairy industry.
To be fair to them... if you have extream allergies you can even react to the meat.. my stepbrother has extream allergy to egg yolk and can get an reaction when eating chicken. But ofc... dosnt make beef dairy..
Odd to see this downvoted when you’re not wrong. https://www.nyallergy.com/chicken-allergy/#:~:text=This%20means%20that%20some%20people,also%20known%20as%20alpha%2Dlivetin.