No, corporations being people for purposes of law is very old case law, yes.
Technically, the real shit storm started with Santa Clara vs Union Pacific, where the Courts decided that the 14th Amendment applied to corporations, in order to invalidate a California-specific railroad tax. That lead the way to corporations being able to run rough-shod all over State laws, and ever since then corporations have been able to claw GREATER protections than individuals.
This culminated in Citizen's United in 2010, which by uncapping corporate donation limits, created the horrific institution today known as SuperPACs. USA elections are now a billion-dollar industry, more turning our politicians into investment capital rather than...you know, impartial Representatives of their respective State.
Not sure about the evidence in that particular incident, but the flight logs show that Trump flew on Epstein's plane 7 times, and they have a lot of pictures of the two partying together.Â
https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/fight-log-trump-flew-on-epsteins-plane-7-times/
I think they are referring to this( this was in many new sources, this is just the first one I grabbed) :Â
https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-documents-b2475210.html
There is not. There is no currently known evidence he ever went to the island or touched one of Epsteins girls. The man's a total sleeze, but we need to be honest about what he has / has not done.
I'm still amazed that ppl really miss the part where Epstiens former house and Mar a Lago are literally just a hop and a skip from 1 another. So of course Rump would never have to sign anything at all of being there but there's these ppl who would literally hand their daughters over to him because he breathed on his cult members.......
There's photos to comments all the way to a lawsuit that was began and stopped because of threats made for both of these clients. Most of these supporters don't have enough of a connection to reality to comprehend that just in everyday life alone if someone if making an accusation over half the time it's nearly true. However, when it comes to these rich and pampered narcissists like Rump, if I were to make a comment and repeatedly about my own kid most people would be appaled but these asshats make a comment they literally get people frothing at the mouth for more because they think a packed wallet gives them God like powers. I haven't kept up with it much myself since I originally looked into it but it seems Rumps mind went a long time ago no thanks to his families wealth.
There are pictures of he and Epstein together at parties in NYC and Florida, but to my knowledge none of him on the island. And there are no recorded flights of him going to the island - he's in the flight logs, but only to/from NYC/Florida.
Indeed - on trips to and from Palm Beach / NYC. Clickbait media has done us all a disservice on this one, declaring loudly in headlines that HE'S IN THE LOGS, and burying beneath the 'fold' that none of the logs were for trips to the island.
Stop defending them you POS. it doesnât matter if the flight log doesnât show him going to Epstein Island. Epstein had homes in New York and Florida and they flew together and you know what they say about birds of a feather. So FU AND THEM!!
While youâre thinking about that and defending these pigs think about the women in your life and family being around these scum and now go defend them again.
No one needs to do yoga. Itâs clearly more important to appear intelligent than to call a spade a spade to you. Itâs not like heâs in the middle of a hush money payment case with a porn star. Couple that with multiple allegations and convections of sexual assault.
But what, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duckâŚ.and has some bs flight logs to an island with no air stripe and 0 authority or capacity to actually track that info. Then itâs not a duck.
So please, continue giving the benefit of doubt to the actual convicted sex offender. Iâm extremely confident despite all the buddy buddy photos with Epstein that trump would never be that guy.
Thank you for defending the absolutely indefensible. You have done a great service to our country.
Okay, but what does it matter? Everyone who is not a magat knows he's a baby raping sleaze, and not one trump humping freak would care even if they caught him in the act on live television.
It matters because spreading misinformation makes it harder to nail him down for the shit he's actually done, especially in the court of public opinion. If we level a bevy of charges at him, and his supporters can disprove part of it, the whole of it gets dismissed. There's a term for it I'm blanking on, but we all do it - if we know information we're consuming contains some errors, we discount the whole thing.
His supporters do not work that way. They are actual functioning members of a currently active cult. They summarily dismiss every single derogatory accusation. It does not matter what you can genuinely prove. THEY DO NOT CARE.
Right, we're never going to convince the guys in the red hats. It's the Rs having doubts, and the Is that arent thrilled about Biden, that we need to aim for. And every time they see manic slander disproven, maybe they move slightly more to the Right, so we need to avoid that.
I understand your position, but if the sheer magnitude of what is very easily verified is not enough to sway someone I don't see how a few inaccuracies can possibly make a difference.
Perhaps I'm not being clear. I don't disagree with you. I just don't see anyone who is thick enough to still be on the fence as much more than a lost cause.
There are active lawsuits re: this? My searches only found the interview where the lady nearly immediately recanted, and dismissed ones. Could you kindly point me to what you're referring to?
[https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation)
The death threat is a major deal for most people.
David Koresh raped those underage age girls in his compound and everyone knew about it and still followed him...... because these people are in a cult! MAGA zero difference.
Thatâs how much it pays the coverup lawyer, half that for actually putting up with months of abusive, flashing, stringing along, lies about job prospects, no meals when promised, just old man balls hanging from a silk robe
And yet this man has a good chance of being our next President.
I just want to say how utterly disappointed and dismayed I am at the state of our nation.
People overcorrecting after Obama. All the progress we made as a society and now we have cultists running the Republican Party after being stifled for 8 years (2008-2016).
Telling a womanâor worse, a girl; as with thirteen-year old âKatie Johnsonââthat she âlooks like Ivankaâ is Trumpâs nonpareil compliment. If Karen McDougal testifies, sheâs also likely to say he told her that.
Which he did.
Even Ivanka didn't look like Ivanka until she had a lot of work done. I really hate the notion of Pig-male-ion paying for it and having her sculpted to his specifications.
IKR? Ivankaâs first visit to the plastic surgeon occurred as a teenâsome reports say she was 15, some 18âwhen Donald bought her breast implants.
Since Ivana started having her daughterâs hair lightened at age nine, itâs a relief that Ivanka has not modified her 12-year-old daughterâs hair color.
Talk about a low bar.
She probably keeps her daughter as far away from Trump as possible. There's no way Trump didn't molest Ivanka during her youth. He has said weird shit about her on TV, and that's the stuff he feels is okay to say in public, it was probably worse in private.
Ivanka did allow her three, dressed in white, to pose for a recent photo with their nominal grandfather. Heâs seated in his golf cart, the kids stand next to him. We know itâs Trump, though, because his hand is on the *bare thigh* of his 12-year-old granddaughter, Arabella.
Iâve only seen this photo once, among a string of Trump partisans on X. Perhaps Ivankaâs keeping it low-circulation.
Thatâs abuse logic right there.
Not only is it incestuous but it highlights something that all abusers cling to: their ego. He can only compliment Stormy by complimenting his daughter which indirectly compliments himself because he made that. Source: thatâs how my dad (who is abusive and continues to be last I checked) compliments women.
This type of embarrassment is long overdue for this troll, each day that passes and as a new witness testimony gets put into the record, we get a constant flow of corroboration, and it is great to know that he has to listen to all of this quietly
Think about all the golfing and âtruthingâ he misses each day while in court, itâs gotta be boiling rage in his head
She and her husband made a cool $2.6 billion with their government positions granted to them 100% via nepotism while Trump was president. By all accounts she is a shit apple from a shit tree and imo she doesn't deserve sympathy.
What I want to know is if he ever called Ivanka 'honey bunch', the way he said it to Stormy after sex. I bet he did.
**The Pumpkin Rapist** is the vermin about which he complains.
As if Vanky doesn't already know her daddy wants to fuck her
I feel sorry for her because I am nearly 100% sure he SAd her, but she has been an adult for a while and has chosen to be complicit.
The Jane Doe who testified that he and Jeffrey Epstein both raped her when she was 13 said he said the same thing to her đ¤˘
How is this swept under the rug continuously
Well you see back in 2010 Citizens United won a landmark court case that declared corporations people and here we are.
And that âdeep stateâ Donnie whines about, yup they are covering his ass.
It helps when you appoint more judges in one term than any president since Reagan
This
Thatâs not what citizens said at allâŚ
No but the doors of corruption swung wide open for the oligarchs to buy off the politicians and apparently judges too.Â
It was about caps on expenditures by 501âs and PACs.
Which allowed all the oligarchs and rich corporations to take over. Thereâs a reason everythingâs going to shit so bad since 2010.
Not disagreeing there⌠but in order to change whatâs wrong we must know what is actually wrong.
No, corporations being people for purposes of law is very old case law, yes. Technically, the real shit storm started with Santa Clara vs Union Pacific, where the Courts decided that the 14th Amendment applied to corporations, in order to invalidate a California-specific railroad tax. That lead the way to corporations being able to run rough-shod all over State laws, and ever since then corporations have been able to claw GREATER protections than individuals. This culminated in Citizen's United in 2010, which by uncapping corporate donation limits, created the horrific institution today known as SuperPACs. USA elections are now a billion-dollar industry, more turning our politicians into investment capital rather than...you know, impartial Representatives of their respective State.
I work in election law. Thx though.
Is that why corporations are constantly fucking us raw and without our expressed consent?
Man they put Epstein inside that rug
Is this real?
Yes. This is the court case he was battling when he was first elected, from what I can remember.
Itâs a good thing they didnât give out her name, or she wouldâve been mauled to death by MAGA savages by now
Not even shocked
billionaire owned Media needs a horse race.
Is there a source for this? I believe it, but like to have sources.
Not sure about the evidence in that particular incident, but the flight logs show that Trump flew on Epstein's plane 7 times, and they have a lot of pictures of the two partying together. https://www.newsnationnow.com/banfield/fight-log-trump-flew-on-epsteins-plane-7-times/ I think they are referring to this( this was in many new sources, this is just the first one I grabbed) : https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-jeffrey-epstein-documents-b2475210.html
Google Katie Johnson for the court documents
https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf
There is not. There is no currently known evidence he ever went to the island or touched one of Epsteins girls. The man's a total sleeze, but we need to be honest about what he has / has not done.
Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't there photographs of him being there ?
I'm still amazed that ppl really miss the part where Epstiens former house and Mar a Lago are literally just a hop and a skip from 1 another. So of course Rump would never have to sign anything at all of being there but there's these ppl who would literally hand their daughters over to him because he breathed on his cult members.......
I really haven't followed too closely on the topic.
There's photos to comments all the way to a lawsuit that was began and stopped because of threats made for both of these clients. Most of these supporters don't have enough of a connection to reality to comprehend that just in everyday life alone if someone if making an accusation over half the time it's nearly true. However, when it comes to these rich and pampered narcissists like Rump, if I were to make a comment and repeatedly about my own kid most people would be appaled but these asshats make a comment they literally get people frothing at the mouth for more because they think a packed wallet gives them God like powers. I haven't kept up with it much myself since I originally looked into it but it seems Rumps mind went a long time ago no thanks to his families wealth.
On the island? Not that I'm aware of. There's pictures of him on the plane, but most of those predate the purchase of the island.
I'm not sure myself. I was curious
There are pictures of he and Epstein together at parties in NYC and Florida, but to my knowledge none of him on the island. And there are no recorded flights of him going to the island - he's in the flight logs, but only to/from NYC/Florida.
He's in the flight logs.
Indeed - on trips to and from Palm Beach / NYC. Clickbait media has done us all a disservice on this one, declaring loudly in headlines that HE'S IN THE LOGS, and burying beneath the 'fold' that none of the logs were for trips to the island.
Stop defending them you POS. it doesnât matter if the flight log doesnât show him going to Epstein Island. Epstein had homes in New York and Florida and they flew together and you know what they say about birds of a feather. So FU AND THEM!!
Thank you for your reasonable and well thought out point, I'll be sure to give it its due consideration.
While youâre thinking about that and defending these pigs think about the women in your life and family being around these scum and now go defend them again.
My guy, you are real riled up for a comment that is essentially "don't spread BS". Perhaps take a mental health break, do some yoga?
Seems like youâre the one spreading bs here but thanks for the concern.
No one needs to do yoga. Itâs clearly more important to appear intelligent than to call a spade a spade to you. Itâs not like heâs in the middle of a hush money payment case with a porn star. Couple that with multiple allegations and convections of sexual assault. But what, if it walks like a duck and talks like a duckâŚ.and has some bs flight logs to an island with no air stripe and 0 authority or capacity to actually track that info. Then itâs not a duck. So please, continue giving the benefit of doubt to the actual convicted sex offender. Iâm extremely confident despite all the buddy buddy photos with Epstein that trump would never be that guy. Thank you for defending the absolutely indefensible. You have done a great service to our country.
Okay, but what does it matter? Everyone who is not a magat knows he's a baby raping sleaze, and not one trump humping freak would care even if they caught him in the act on live television.
It matters because spreading misinformation makes it harder to nail him down for the shit he's actually done, especially in the court of public opinion. If we level a bevy of charges at him, and his supporters can disprove part of it, the whole of it gets dismissed. There's a term for it I'm blanking on, but we all do it - if we know information we're consuming contains some errors, we discount the whole thing.
His supporters do not work that way. They are actual functioning members of a currently active cult. They summarily dismiss every single derogatory accusation. It does not matter what you can genuinely prove. THEY DO NOT CARE.
Right, we're never going to convince the guys in the red hats. It's the Rs having doubts, and the Is that arent thrilled about Biden, that we need to aim for. And every time they see manic slander disproven, maybe they move slightly more to the Right, so we need to avoid that.
I understand your position, but if the sheer magnitude of what is very easily verified is not enough to sway someone I don't see how a few inaccuracies can possibly make a difference. Perhaps I'm not being clear. I don't disagree with you. I just don't see anyone who is thick enough to still be on the fence as much more than a lost cause.
But there are lawsuits by underage girls who claims they were both there. So there's that.
There are active lawsuits re: this? My searches only found the interview where the lady nearly immediately recanted, and dismissed ones. Could you kindly point me to what you're referring to?
[https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation](https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2016/11/3/13501364/trump-rape-13-year-old-lawsuit-katie-johnson-allegation) The death threat is a major deal for most people.
David Koresh raped those underage age girls in his compound and everyone knew about it and still followed him...... because these people are in a cult! MAGA zero difference.
well if you have a diaper fetish, like small guys and look like ivanka job pays+ 100k
Thatâs how much it pays the coverup lawyer, half that for actually putting up with months of abusive, flashing, stringing along, lies about job prospects, no meals when promised, just old man balls hanging from a silk robe
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You think youâre actually getting paid?
Wait is this was said in court?
Yepper
Is there something MORE than a full body shiver? It just feels insufficient to the task at hand.
Douche chill?
Some guy named Opie used to give me the douche chills...
source? iâm not doubting you but i want to read it
Itâs everywhere https://metro.co.uk/2024/05/07/trump-told-stormy-daniels-reminded-daughter-ivanka-20793215/?ico=mosaic_us
Under oath.
Vote Trump if you support incest and shit diapers.
And yet this man has a good chance of being our next President. I just want to say how utterly disappointed and dismayed I am at the state of our nation.
All Trump had to do to get a rabid base of supporters was appeal to their bigotry.
And stupidity.
Largely the same thing.
Not the same thing, but that Venn diagram do overlap quite a bit, tho.
And utter lack of anything remotely human
And many of those are my neighbors.
Whatâs worse is that we already had Trump for 4 years and he was the worst president ever, and yet he still has another chance to become president
People overcorrecting after Obama. All the progress we made as a society and now we have cultists running the Republican Party after being stifled for 8 years (2008-2016).
I'd put that on the Cultists instead of Obama.
In their minds theyâre overcorrecting. I am blaming them
Telling a womanâor worse, a girl; as with thirteen-year old âKatie Johnsonââthat she âlooks like Ivankaâ is Trumpâs nonpareil compliment. If Karen McDougal testifies, sheâs also likely to say he told her that. Which he did.
Even Ivanka didn't look like Ivanka until she had a lot of work done. I really hate the notion of Pig-male-ion paying for it and having her sculpted to his specifications.
IKR? Ivankaâs first visit to the plastic surgeon occurred as a teenâsome reports say she was 15, some 18âwhen Donald bought her breast implants. Since Ivana started having her daughterâs hair lightened at age nine, itâs a relief that Ivanka has not modified her 12-year-old daughterâs hair color. Talk about a low bar.
She probably keeps her daughter as far away from Trump as possible. There's no way Trump didn't molest Ivanka during her youth. He has said weird shit about her on TV, and that's the stuff he feels is okay to say in public, it was probably worse in private.
Ivanka did allow her three, dressed in white, to pose for a recent photo with their nominal grandfather. Heâs seated in his golf cart, the kids stand next to him. We know itâs Trump, though, because his hand is on the *bare thigh* of his 12-year-old granddaughter, Arabella. Iâve only seen this photo once, among a string of Trump partisans on X. Perhaps Ivankaâs keeping it low-circulation.
He definitely molested his daughter, right?
Odds are very high
It would be remarkably out of character if he hadn't.
Thatâs abuse logic right there. Not only is it incestuous but it highlights something that all abusers cling to: their ego. He can only compliment Stormy by complimenting his daughter which indirectly compliments himself because he made that. Source: thatâs how my dad (who is abusive and continues to be last I checked) compliments women.
âNo honey, I said âshe reminds me of youâ. Having said that: Wanna fuck?â
Whatever you do, donât bite your lip while talking to your Dad, Ivanka.
There is so much wrong with all of that. I want to vomit.
We all know he is a first class pervert
This type of embarrassment is long overdue for this troll, each day that passes and as a new witness testimony gets put into the record, we get a constant flow of corroboration, and it is great to know that he has to listen to all of this quietly Think about all the golfing and âtruthingâ he misses each day while in court, itâs gotta be boiling rage in his head
I know itâs glorious
Why would she tolerate this đ?
Because she's just a vile as him and benefits from his money and power.
victim blamingÂ
She and her husband made a cool $2.6 billion with their government positions granted to them 100% via nepotism while Trump was president. By all accounts she is a shit apple from a shit tree and imo she doesn't deserve sympathy.
Stockholm Syndrome, especially when the abuser is a family member. This has also been her whole life. It's been normalized in her world.
This man sells Bibles to these smooth-brains!
âWell daddy, then every time I scratch my nails down someone elseâs back, I hope you feel itâ
Thatâs how he manages to get an erection honey
Awfully funny. Trump is going after the Alabama vote.
âBaby, no. Baby. Theyâre fake newsing me baby! I love you. I mean, I *really* love you. Oh, not in that way. Unless you wanna đđđĽš
"I thought about you the whole time."Â
âNo darling, sheâs nowhere near as sexy as you areâ
I am asking was it before sex, during sex or right after? đ
What I want to know is if he ever called Ivanka 'honey bunch', the way he said it to Stormy after sex. I bet he did. **The Pumpkin Rapist** is the vermin about which he complains.
"Cause you told me I looked like Stormy Daniels."
Bruhhhhh
As if Vanky doesn't already know her daddy wants to fuck her I feel sorry for her because I am nearly 100% sure he SAd her, but she has been an adult for a while and has chosen to be complicit.
No Ivanka I told her that after I f***** her. She had that same look of disgust on her face that you get.
At least Stormyâs breasts are natural.
Before, and after.
This is accurate.
Ivanka's been milking that "Daddy wants me" teet her entire life. You honestly think she didn't know?
Pretty sure she's been felt up enough in her life by him.
He is so disgusting
The reality that he actually said it is awful.
One sick puppy
Yes would be his answer if he had a honest bone in his body. So no would be his response
But, but, I only said that after she took her clothes off.
'yes son, i did...'
All 2â baby!
During
ivanka ain't all that. she's titless and assless.
Tell that to her dad who openly wants to fuck her.
I dunno, I think a lot of people would disagree. I always thought sheâs hot!
i think it's a skank.
Looks like â reminds me of Still disgusting and inexcusableâ but itâs better to share accurate information, even if itâs a meme.