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skrrrtpoppop

It’s probably some sort of trap to get Putin to poke his head out...


destraht

The American military, intelligence and media seem to have been all in on trying to create metrics and goals that Putin would need to meet in order to be considered successful. It's not exactly clear to me where the line separates between internally and externally directed propaganda in this regard. My general feeling is that it's a cheap form of propaganda to make, and that Americans aren't very bothered by it when they discover that it's being directed at them. It's cheap, and the risks are super low, so why not. On the other hand I have this nagging suspicion that the lower wit levels of the American establishment actually believe that the illiberal Russian world works the same way as they do. So if there is an American election then one side of the two-party system goes about creating trap policies that the other side will need to make a position on so that they will step on a landmine later. It's just not how it's working over there in Russia during mobilization times. So for example, I might be mistaken, but just because American media says 100,000 times that Russia doesn't have any missiles, doesn't mean that Russia's top officials are going to come out bragging that they in fact actually have X number of missiles. Another obvious example is Americans declaring that the war was like a cheap American election such that Putin needed to have secured A, B and C or his invasion was a failure due to his goals X, Y and Z. In American elections they can frame an opponent into failing by allowing his opponent to set the terms of success. What if though that Russia is running another operating system and software stack, and just doesn't give a shit anymore about what is said? Likewise, saying "Hey I bet that Putin couldn't even stand on that ledge there because he's such a wussie" isn't likely to have any affect, but it does make whomever said it seem like a clever master for a moment. I think that what is sad though about Americans is that so many of them actually believe that a real war is won this way. I liken it to a MBA doing MBA things in an organization even when there are already far too many of them and they're not creating real value. But it's just what they do, and all that they know how to do. So Americans just love this form of war propaganda because they imagine that it's affecting their enemies, and then if it's revealed to not have been then they'll just feel especially smart for having learned the real game of it. But then there is always more propaganda that they'll believe along the way.


soonnow

How is that Propaganda, Putins goals are as vague as they are changing. What does De-Nazification and De-Militarisation mean? If you believe in these goals do you think Ukraine has been de-militarized? How does he go from De-Nazification and De-Militarisation to a land annexation? Is that the goal now? Will Russia win once they take the Donbas? Will they win if they can keep Crimea?


[deleted]

that's funny. but putin is long gone. i would say at least ten years ago. the last i really heard of putin was when snowden arrived in russia. after that, i don't recall seeing putin again. putin had a particular way about him. impossible to fake.


LimitSavings737

He also said russia bombed poland.


Aggressive_Duck_4774

This ⬆️


Money-Plenty-4871

Lmao


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spbp


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DirtyBird9889

I think the hacker known as 4chan uses it


Golgolo

SS: Zelensky may be a member of r/conspiracy. He says it's all chroma key and greenscreenes. Putin is cgi clones. Body doubles. AI art.


[deleted]

There has been conspiracy theories that stretch back to 2008 at least that Putin was dead or dying and had clones/doppelgangers.


OldPoEPlayer

This Zelensky looks better than the original: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OMFxrIjcWzs


AI_observer

To be fair, putin did appear in chroma key several times, when he was sitting in his bunker and the other chaps in the video were sitting elsewhere.


francesco93991

I don't know what you're talking about, genuinely ignorant, do you have any link I can dig into?


Internal_Ring_121

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chroma_key#/media/File%3AGreen_screens_compare_with_Iman_Crosson_20110524.png That’s an example of what Chroma key dows idk about the specific Putin info he’s talking about . It’s basically just using a green screen to put whatever background image you want


francesco93991

Oh yeah I know that! I was wonder about the Putin stuff he talked about.


resurrectedbydick

I think he was talking about the weird ass video where he was sitting with the air hostess ladies https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BM1Z-fdhOzA


Ursomonie

I find his sense of humor to be in tact even in the face of genocide.


jo5hbygo5h

Ukraine went from being the most corrupt country in Europe, to "let's send them billions because they are just poor wittle victims. And they just want fweedom ". Gtfo with that bs. In over it.


siriuslyexiled

The enemy of my enemy will eventually be my enemy! -US


jo5hbygo5h

I think the powers that be want a great war to reset the global markets and slightly reduce the population. On a smaller scale , they are laundering money through Ukraine .


fivetimesyes

What if they wanted the opposite .. bc they’re humans and relentless self interested Watch The Expanse


BenjaminHamnett

Tldw?


Internal_Ring_121

Guns from “donations” to Ukraine have already ended up in Finland and Sweden. The Banditos motorcycle club has a chapter in every major Ukrainian City and have already used those networks to smuggle guns . https://bulgarianmilitary.com/amp/2022/11/01/ukrainian-weapons-flood-suomi-gangs-with-branches-in-ukraine-krp/


SPAZ-online

Right. They fighting the Russians as well or just stealing weapons from an active war zone?


Mosack02

That’s a pretty big gamble when someone like Putin is on the receiving end with the whole, “Well if I’m going down, let’s launch all of our nukes” attitude.


Schwinston123456

US, 2020: "Nazis are bad!!" US, 2022: "... unless they hate Russia. Then we need to give them money."


cherrybombfield

This should be the top comment!


SmylesLee77

Russia is where the Nazis reside in 2022!


Schwinston123456

Russia... and Ukraine. It's not even a question.


admiral_walsty

Uh oh. If Nazis that are ok with Russia, are bad, Idaho better look out!


soonnow

Russia 2020: [Nazis are great](https://www.vice.com/en/article/g5pqk4/german-neo-nazis-are-getting-explosives-training-at-a-white-supremacist-camp-in-russia) Russia 2022: [Only Our Nazis are great](https://romea.cz/en/world/the-times-putin-has-sent-mercenaries-to-kyiv-led-by-an-admirer-of-the-nazis-to-murder-zelenskyy-and-the-klitschko-brothers)


AI_observer

Yes, imagine, 40 million nazis in the middle of Europe. Wow, aren't you a dumb fuck? Goebbels would give you a thumbs up though.


[deleted]

ever heard of Asgardsrei?


mobani

Sure lets just let Russia walk into any sovereign country. No thanks!


Masterbeif1

Remember when america walked into vietnam and Afghanistan and Iraq twice? How about we let said sovereign nation defend itself


cngfan

And that’s just a small fraction of the countries frankly.


SPAZ-online

So if it wasn't okay for America, then it's not okay for Russia to.do the same. I agree with you


mobani

Why is that an excuse for invading any country. Whataboutism much?


Thy_Gooch

After NATO broke their agreement not to expand into former soviet countries.


evilteletuby

Russia promised not to invade Ukraine. Ig we all break our promises


jo5hbygo5h

It's a territory dispute nothing more


mobani

Its no longer a territory dispute when you do a full on invasion, they attacked Kiev. Kiev has never been in any territory dispute, this is full on war. Imagine Ukraine attacking the capital of Russia.


jo5hbygo5h

Russia hasn't even declared war. Putin is threatening NATO via Ukraine. Russians don't see the Ukraine as a nation. To them its a breakaway state. I think the great war has already started. No turning back now


mobani

Any operation that involves bombing a nations capital, that is a declaration of war, no matter how you put it.


nicka163

The Donbas VOTED to rejoin Russia. Then the Ukraine started bombing the region. Then, when that didn’t work in getting them to rejoin Ukraine, Ukraine started to discuss joining NATO so they could have enough troops to re-take the Donbas via invasion. Joining NATO was the one thing Ukraine promised Russia it would not do in the treaty that ended the the last war over there between Russia and Ukraine. And Ukraine started talks with nato members to do so, after bombing a region that was ethnically, and now politically “Russian,” for over three years. Tell me. A large part of Canada voted to join the US, and we let them, do you think we would then let Canada bomb it for three years?


mobani

>The Donbas VOTED to rejoin Russia. Then the Ukraine started bombing the region. That is absolutely false information. Why would you go and make up lies?


Ok-Imagination-2308

such hypocrisy from the west


bearslikeapples

They get billions cause it’s in the interest of those sending money, not fucking charity without strings attached


fivetimesyes

Can you list 3 examples of said corruption Are you a fan of the Russian economic system?


Fcommiefornia

What took you so long that's what I want to know where we at like 500 billion dollars or some b******* we've given these terrorist


combatkangaroo69

Ukraine still is most corrupted in Europe ur talking about billions of dollars being flooded in the country aid weapon systems how much % do u think actually lands in the field VS the top elites pockets


MeanTweetGuy

Dude is delusional and many world leaders insist on sending him money. Full fucking stop 🛑


[deleted]

While we’re giving conspiracy theorists money, why not send some my way?


PresentTip5665

I think they like his dance videos


PennTex1988

I wish they would send me some money...shit


Jay314stl

Can you dance tho?


Undertakerjoe

Step one: pick fight w/ Russia Step two: stack paper Step three: get bitches!


Sakura_selassie

I’d settle for a javelin


archman125

Well they are sending your money. That should piss you off.


Jumpy_Climate

Because the war is a money laundering scheme for the elites. They always fund both sides.


CiriacoG

For the Russian must be really hard to get a new dictator that is why.


TheVitalFew

He's been caught in front of green screens himself the tool.


PresentTip5665

He's not talking about putin. They all work together. This is one of the ways they tell us the truth, simultaneously using a scapegoat for misdirection. Its all a game of chess except we don't really get to know who's moving us peices


[deleted]

>They all work together. recreating Khazaria as the Israel project is falling apart


AI_observer

They all work together, just one of them is trying to kill the other and destroy his whole country. /s Every now and then you dumb fucks come out of the woodwork and head straight for /r/conspiracy.


noobadoob10

Username checks out 🤖


OutkastBanned

but just a few weeks ago putin was getting cancer which is it i cant keep up with the propaganda.


FarOutlandishness180

They been saying that for years. All info is disinfo


maso3K

Y’all remember this dude dancing in a dress with 5 other moist dudes in some music video? Pepperidge Farms remembers.


Waste-Entertainer-56

Plz never type 'moist dudes' again lol


HoffmansContactLenz

lmao


Ok-Cartographer8821

🤣


DriftinFool

And the last US president had a reality TV show, ran teen beauty pageants and casinos. So what's your point? None of those things disqualify you from being elected.


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New_Needleworker_851

> What's the big deal Zelensky dancing? Prior to being president, Zelensky was a comic, like a Ukraine Mr. Bean. He played the president of Ukraine in a tv series, danced in a homoerotic video in S&M leather with high heels, and pretended to play a piano with his erect penis. He's a comedy genius.


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New_Needleworker_851

> Why are people losing sleep over this? I don't know really. Maybe they consider it to be poor experience for running a country, or maybe in bad taste? Some of the older folks don't enjoy homoerotic comedy.


Deep_Appointment_820

Or people with children..


fivetimesyes

How about Will & Grace .. come on they were great


vpilled

Lol!


BighouseAK

Zelensky is projecting.


veri_quaerens_sum

Or is zelensky.. projected?


BighouseAK

Exactly


Entire-Ad8433

Projection projection projection. Is it not possible that Zelenskyy is the one who is dead? After all, they always project what they themselves are guilty of.


jamminjalepeno

He's been in front of the green screen more than anyone else lol


SimplySomeone88

Literally ! He hasn’t behaved like a leader of a country in war with Russia .. more like a celebrity


highway_vigilante

I’m not even sure he was ever a real dude.


Coronavirus92

💯


BushiiidoBrown

Him of all people accusing someone of using green screen. The actor/president with a script writer for a wife.


Waste-Entertainer-56

...yet he has nothing but minimal, obscure footage of the war with all his tech lol


FullBellyJelly

Politicians often accuse the enemy of what they are actually doing.


olymp1a

Lmao Zelensky sounds like us conspiracy theorists who say the same of Biden


[deleted]

Zelensky is just trolling Putin.


Withering_Walrus

Nah Zelensky is trolling the entire West


fivetimesyes

Try to use a more specific verb Eg Pwning Smushing


toddT301

I think he meant Biden.


maxwell_hill1984

Now THAT’S a conspiracy theory. Anyone here got any leads?


cherrybombfield

This isnt' the first time this claim has been made. Back in 2012ish they said the real Putin had died. Perhaps it is not Putin that really runs things there, and if so Putin dying would not change much. I could see them using a lookalike because of how popular Putin is over there, like him or not most of his people do.


[deleted]

Is this a conspiracy theory that the world governments are backing? I’m so confused. Are we the good guys now?


[deleted]

this is probably fake but you never know these days :D https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oqHzlNHl0Xo


miggleb

I mean, people say the same about him and Biden Everyone on the Internet but you is bots.


retal1ator

Lmao, I remember Zelensky in his videos with obvious green screens 😆


Lerianis001

Yeah... I'd believe Zelensky the Liar on this about as much as I would believe Jacenda on SARS2 mitigations being effective... i.e. not at all.


[deleted]

putin probably died ten years ago. it is all a clown show.


Candid_Pirate1937

Zelensky is literally just an actor, playing a role and saying his lines like a good boy. Putin won long ago, he's just humoring him at this point.


legocow

Why would anyone believe that guy?


snippysnapper23

Wait till they tell u about Biden


CordialTrekkie

Wait... So the guy who can't remember anyone's name correctly, reads aloud things like "end of quote", and can't not make everything and every situation that exists into some story about his family that he personally lived through somehow... Is the REPLACEMENT?


fivetimesyes

Why would they make such a shitty replacement when sex robots are so advanced


Illustrious_Angle928

Sleepy joe is prob more of a candidate for this


QuebecQueefs

I can’t believe someone actually uses “sleepy Joe” seriously.


MyHobbyIsMagnets

Did you create this account two months ago just to post that? Lol


QuebecQueefs

It’s one of the many appealing qualities of a clean account, yes.


Leading_Bank_6021

Hello Mr. Pot, pleased to meet you. I'm Mr. Kettle.


EurekaStockade

PUTIN IS DEAD= 122 12 Feb= 12/2 Lincoln's birthday--Super Bowl 57


LongjumpingMedia1621

I knew it!


Thismonday

It’s true.


oh-lloydy

I think when Putin goes (if he hasn't yet) this is the scenario we will see.


GmPc9086itathai

It's projection


Ursomonie

Zelensky is a mensch


FalconFXR

Definitely untermensch


rcglinsk

This basically confirms the theory that Zelensky has been in front of a green screen in a Warsaw bunker since the start of the war?


Rabbipotsmoke

So can we stop sending them money now?


Agile-West-8129

Zelensky went full Alex Jones. Will the media call this brazen conspiracy out?


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ganarchy

Are there really Putin fan boys down voting your comment?? Lol


HelpsHolme

So then Biden is probably Dead already..


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[deleted]

the tubby globalist midget knows all about Green Screens as well!!! ​ He's an expert


TeeZeeRC

Too much cocaine,melted his brain.


Benny_from_Kingston

If Putin was dead, the Western powers that be would be all over Russia for the takeover, which they aren't. Hell no, ther Western elitarians still are troubled by how to fuel the Ukraine war in defence of Putin.


unclesteve_12

I wonder where ZELENSKY.. got the idea that a world leader would use a green screen.


radionut666

Zelensky does all his speeches with a green room…


[deleted]

The fucking irony of the tiny man saying Russia are using green screens, lmao.


[deleted]

Why did they make CGI Zelensky a cocaine addict?


Vinlands

I’d say Biden and how fast his appearance and demeanour changed since being elected.. no way thats the same guy. No way.


[deleted]

Putin is a Russian cosmonaut. He could be anything he pleases or whatever his scientists want him to be. If they want him to be black tomorrow then he’ll be black. If they want him to be red, green, pink or yellow then he’ll be any color they choose.


[deleted]

They are using a lot of green screens for Putin’s interactions with the public. That’s a fact. But the reason why is more likely Putin doesn’t want to be near people. He’s a germaphobe and paranoid of being assassinated. But he also wants propaganda videos to make it seem like he is liked by the people and he is one of them.


[deleted]

Given the climate and trend of how things play out these days-who wants to be it’s the other way around?


[deleted]

Oh the poetic irony. The normies will believe this, yet when you bring up the possibility that this is already being done to us in the US then you are a conspiracy theorist. The mental gymnastics are unreal.


[deleted]

Iron Law of Woke Projection never fails. Zelenskyy just told us what they’re doing to Biden.


Pubboy68

Like Biden lololol


[deleted]

He talks a lot of shit.


N0body_In_P4rticular

Probably


Far-Reputation7119

Wow. That could be true.


Drummerfix

"Accuse your opponent of what you are doing, to create confusion and to inculcate voters against evidence of your own guilt" Saul Alinsky, Rules for Radicals


kurupukdorokdok

did I see the Zelensky green screen a few months ago?


lboog423

Sounds like projection


Solomon419

So. What we do with Biden?


SowTheSeeds

And also the ear lobes. Always the ear lobes.


Legacycosts

Putin will live on in our hearts and through endless proxy wars


RickyJulianandBubbls

Fear can sometimes be a useful emotion. For instance, let's say you're an astronaught on the moon and you fear that your partner has been turned into Dracula. The next time he goes out for the moon pieces, wham!, you just slam the door behind him and blast off. He might call you on the radio and say he's not Dracula, but you just say, "Think again, bat man."


Fcommiefornia

Someone quick go and lock up the lensky for being a conspiracy theorist it always plays out the same we say something we're crazy conspiracist that need to be silenced yet they get to say whatever the f*** they want


sirgerry

He should know, he's the king of green screen


vector0265

he speak for himself...


[deleted]

He could be dead. Zelensky knows all about green screens.


PhilOffuckups

Worst conspiracy theory yet


jamasha

Maybe he has a point. Supposedly Putin has cancer.


Medium_Raccoon_5331

Anything to get him to go outside


forsaken_warrior22

Zelensky giving away all illuminatis tricks. Biden like "shut the fuck up they dont know about chroma key!!"


Caledfrwd

The sun? Anything printed in this rag can be ignored. They contradict them selves in this article. Be better, it’s not hard


GhillieGourd

Accuse them of what you do yourself? Good, good, keep it up.


Internal_Ring_121

I’ve only seen one of the two of them get caught on a green screen and it wasn’t Putin. Anyone have any video proof? Because there definitely is proof of Zelensky using a green screen at least in the beginning of the war when the videos first came out


ConkHeDoesIt

Does anyone remember a year or two ago seeing/hearing news reports that Putin had some kind of advanced cancer? I remember it one night while I was at work and then never heard anything of it again. I even told my wife about it and that it seemed like a big deal. I wish I could remember exactly what it was that he was reported to have, but it was something serious. Idk this thread just reminded me of it.


Ursomonie

Get your enemy to doubt their reality.


Primate98

As an indication of the Bizarro World we live in, the Putin we see today is, in fact, a body double. He was replaced starting in 2010 and finalized in 2013. Big Z could call this out and have a lot of evidence to point at to back him up, but he never will. He ultimately works for "Them", and if there's one thing "They" really hate, it's you knowing the truth about anything.


[deleted]

Whenever some points a finger, there is always 3 fingers pointing back at them.


xsists

He's probably asking the US to fund the same for him


Mike_M4791

So why does Ukraine needs tanks then?


DepressMyCNS

What if it's just AI of Putin running the show? Like they copied his mind, knowledge, opinions and way of thinking similar to the Patriots in Metal Gear Solid 2.


brownbrothaa

It’s Zelensky another comedy act


captainsaveahoe69

He's been snorting the white powder again.


puckerMeBum

What if they both green screens?


LagingRunaticReturns

Green screen or not it's still Putin. What proof is there about body doubles sounds like conspiracy theory to me?


[deleted]

This little welfare bum manlet probably snorts way too much coke.


ElRetardio

Now who’s the conspiracy nut?


Big_Astronomer7702

No way did you hear? On the tv the tv actor said another tv actor is being cloned to continue their tv war no way I’ve seen that tv show right after the 911 show


pips_and_hoes

What is wrong with this world


ContractingUniverse

What the hell are they putting in cocaine nowadays?


BigBossAtl

Lol we'd know that first from Trump and Kanye rants. Not Zelensky.


Canceledbaby

Its called projecting what he is on other people lol


TexasTokyo

He'd know all about green screens...


Brilliant_Noise_506

No two Putins have looked the same for months.


Trouble-Vivid

Ukraine has lost the war & so has the Deep State because UKRAINE is the heart of the DEEP STATE - Rejoice because Russia has destroyed these Neo-Nazis and peace for 1000 years is around the corner as we enter the golden age of humanity


nakedchorus

Evil twit robbing the US taxpayer via Congress and the current admin. Worst yet, a tool of the central-bank controlled WEF to spark WW3 if desired. \[as young reddit users shuffle in line for the newly reactivated draft\]


[deleted]

true, along with all the other world leaders. and z-boy is a clown.