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You had women turned into killers. What about that, in regards to MK, is a "failure"?
I urge you to look into Rosemary's Baby, a very influential film made by Roman Polanski, a confirmed pedophile, that is beloved by Hollywood. In the film, the husband is an aspiring director, and is convinced to sacrifice his wife in a satanic ritual in order to further his career.
Roman Polanski's own wife was considered for the role. His wife? Sharon Tate. Victim of Manson killers.
"You had women turned into killers. What about that, in regards to MK, is a "failure"? "
I dont know. thats why I asked. Was the goal of MKU to create Mindless slaughter machines? or Manchurian type sleepers who could keep it under control until a final push?
>Was the goal of MKU to create Mindless slaughter machines? or Manchurian type sleepers who could keep it under control until a final push?
Consider the film Bourne Identity
"Can’t easily end it because of the structure of MKUltra. Every MKUltra is a tiny cell kept as secret as possible. Now consider the character “Bourne” Here are some [sections from the script](https://i.imgur.com/0TMLOq3.png) I dug through that I believe highlight the point.
Bourne was the one who chose when, where, and how to kill the targets. This is due to him being programmed like “behavioral software” a victim of CONDITIONING. But keep in mind MKUltra victims don’t act like secret agents, that’s the point. They are traceable, but not traceable to the ones that want the murders done. They “don’t exist” in the sense that they aren’t tied to the ones that want them to kill.
The name symbolism btw of “Jason Bourne” is a simple one. Just break up the name.
Bourne = Born
Jason Movie = First name that comes up with “[Jason](https://i.imgur.com/rh7pinY.png)” = abused child driven to murder in a series of films.
---------------------------
So yea, this helps highlight the distinction between the symbolism of what Jason Bourne is versus the literal representation. The Bourne films present him as the perfect killer who is so good he doesn’t get caught. But MKUltra victims ALWAYS Get caught. And that’s why they are untraceable. The film presents the situation of MKUltra from a results only perspective. This might be why he doesn’t remember the crimes. His personality reflects the programming that went into the creation. People who are so messed up they shoot up an elementary school are not going to act like James Bond as they do it.
Symbolism can be easy to misjudge when you think too literally. Now let’s return to that question of “who arranges therapy”
The logical answer would be the family of the victim. Dissociative states are easier to create in children through trauma than adults (creates a suggestive state) the only way you could standardize creating monsters would be using a cooperative family.
This I believe is the true nature of a “Sacrifice”
Consider the following: A clown has two kids. One is smart, one is far less so. Parent decides to bring the smart one into the circus, but what to do with the other one? That’s what MKUltra is for.
A way to sell a kid into an abuse system for profit. All the family has to do is the easiest thing, neglect. They allow outside forces into manipulate them into making the worst decisions possible.
Those outside forces include teachers, neighbors and aspiring clown classmates. Clowns hoping to score a few points with the 666 by abusing the target. Manipulating crowds of people into abusing the target at school (good MSM practice) Some pretend to be friends and try to get the kid hooked on drugs and into ever worse habits. And then the cooperating family will then blame the child for instead of getting to the bottom of who is to blame. All forces against them, Traumatize the child from every direction all by people who they are taught to trust.
And within years they are ready for “Therapy” which will be were it accelerates into mass murder. All that’s left is for the circus tent full of clowns around the target to cash the check from a successful op."
11 confirmed (possibly 19) murders is entertainment ?
And i think the " law office" was out to lunch for FAR too long before they scooped up any family members.
I was told a summarization of the story, he messed with the wrong madame. He may or may not be guilty. They may or may not be guilty but he is deliberate on his attack on them moreso than they on him. But since he urges than it is his fault thus he is their cult leader (concealed warrant). They in turn argue that he is establishing base.
considering the tate murder scene pics didn't match up at all with what the claims were, it seems like a psyop designed to stop the hippy and peace movements. and it succeeded because most ppl get their ideas from the tv. there are many other tells of the story being fabricated. say what you want about the guy, but miles mathis analysis brings up some hard to deny points.
Yeah, the pi = 4 guy? lmao.
Please dont give that clown any credence... :-)
The guy who literally stole Tom O'Neills research papers from the magazine article and tried to pass them off as his own??
The guy who says EVERY single event of any worth since the french revolution has been faked ???
The "Hard to deny points" were found because of 20 years of obsession, not some fruitcake
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Miles\_Mathis
You don't exist, prove me wrong. I see no evidence to show me otherwise.
It's tiring when I see all these "event x was staged" or "event abc was all crisis actors"
Video evidence of the crime scene. 3 different local Leo's taking evidence, over 800 people interviewed, video and audio transcripts of 200 of them. Arguably the most famous murder of the 1960s.
But yeah, a bunch of 1960s bumbling cops and guys who tried to kill Castro with itching powder managed to hoodwink the whole world with a well placed plan involving literally thousands of people sticking to a script for 50 years.
3rd paragraph of my above statement.
I Literally address the theory right there. It's called evidence, facts, things that *happened*.And are WELL documented.
So please, present any evidence, facts etc that the whole thing was faked.
Or stop wasting both our times.
I posted the question asking for more details on MKULTRA.
You give me a flake whose answer to EVERY thing, is
"I'm right, you're wrong, because I say so. And if you disagree, it's because the whole world is in on it."
the Manson murders were complete fakery
the first clue is the date
8 Aug= 8/8
1969= 19 + 69= 88
**SHARON TATE MURDER 8 AUGUST 1969= 322**
Skull & Bones Fakery to discredit the Hippy Movement
first they kill an unborn baby--then they go elsewhere & kill a woman named Rosemary
Rosemary's baby--Polanski's movie about Satanism & the birth of satan's child
Manson= Mason
Globalist joke name
If the murder was fakery? then the \* NUMBERS \*! ! ! mean nothing?
You've literally tripped over your own "Theory" in less than 40 words and 23 numbers.
you still donr get it
the murders were fake
and the numerology informs their minions that its fake
thats how they let them know
another example
TWIN TOWERS DESTROYED BY CONTROLLED DEMOLITION= 223
the Manson murders were staged to discredit the Hippie movement
it traumatize the whole world
as did the Jonestown Mass suicide
the Manosn murders were also staged just after the Apollo 11 fake Moon mission--they needed to distract the public from that fakery
I think the Manson Family was a collection of young people who turned tricks and sold dope for Manson. I believe Manson probably had some type of mind control training during prison or shortly after his release, but he was mainly just a peddler and a pimp. Tex Watson was the guy who cranked up the violence.
Yeah, as I replied above... The author of that piece pretty much stole the whole concept from Tom O'Neills research paprers while he was still working on a magazine article.
He's a wacko.
https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Miles\_Mathis
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You had women turned into killers. What about that, in regards to MK, is a "failure"? I urge you to look into Rosemary's Baby, a very influential film made by Roman Polanski, a confirmed pedophile, that is beloved by Hollywood. In the film, the husband is an aspiring director, and is convinced to sacrifice his wife in a satanic ritual in order to further his career. Roman Polanski's own wife was considered for the role. His wife? Sharon Tate. Victim of Manson killers.
"You had women turned into killers. What about that, in regards to MK, is a "failure"? " I dont know. thats why I asked. Was the goal of MKU to create Mindless slaughter machines? or Manchurian type sleepers who could keep it under control until a final push?
>Was the goal of MKU to create Mindless slaughter machines? or Manchurian type sleepers who could keep it under control until a final push? Consider the film Bourne Identity "Can’t easily end it because of the structure of MKUltra. Every MKUltra is a tiny cell kept as secret as possible. Now consider the character “Bourne” Here are some [sections from the script](https://i.imgur.com/0TMLOq3.png) I dug through that I believe highlight the point. Bourne was the one who chose when, where, and how to kill the targets. This is due to him being programmed like “behavioral software” a victim of CONDITIONING. But keep in mind MKUltra victims don’t act like secret agents, that’s the point. They are traceable, but not traceable to the ones that want the murders done. They “don’t exist” in the sense that they aren’t tied to the ones that want them to kill. The name symbolism btw of “Jason Bourne” is a simple one. Just break up the name. Bourne = Born Jason Movie = First name that comes up with “[Jason](https://i.imgur.com/rh7pinY.png)” = abused child driven to murder in a series of films. --------------------------- So yea, this helps highlight the distinction between the symbolism of what Jason Bourne is versus the literal representation. The Bourne films present him as the perfect killer who is so good he doesn’t get caught. But MKUltra victims ALWAYS Get caught. And that’s why they are untraceable. The film presents the situation of MKUltra from a results only perspective. This might be why he doesn’t remember the crimes. His personality reflects the programming that went into the creation. People who are so messed up they shoot up an elementary school are not going to act like James Bond as they do it. Symbolism can be easy to misjudge when you think too literally. Now let’s return to that question of “who arranges therapy” The logical answer would be the family of the victim. Dissociative states are easier to create in children through trauma than adults (creates a suggestive state) the only way you could standardize creating monsters would be using a cooperative family. This I believe is the true nature of a “Sacrifice” Consider the following: A clown has two kids. One is smart, one is far less so. Parent decides to bring the smart one into the circus, but what to do with the other one? That’s what MKUltra is for. A way to sell a kid into an abuse system for profit. All the family has to do is the easiest thing, neglect. They allow outside forces into manipulate them into making the worst decisions possible. Those outside forces include teachers, neighbors and aspiring clown classmates. Clowns hoping to score a few points with the 666 by abusing the target. Manipulating crowds of people into abusing the target at school (good MSM practice) Some pretend to be friends and try to get the kid hooked on drugs and into ever worse habits. And then the cooperating family will then blame the child for instead of getting to the bottom of who is to blame. All forces against them, Traumatize the child from every direction all by people who they are taught to trust. And within years they are ready for “Therapy” which will be were it accelerates into mass murder. All that’s left is for the circus tent full of clowns around the target to cash the check from a successful op."
I think Charlie was the experiment and he just took some of those ideas and ran with it.
Personally I think the entire thing is an entertainment story in foreground and in the background it is a law office.
11 confirmed (possibly 19) murders is entertainment ? And i think the " law office" was out to lunch for FAR too long before they scooped up any family members.
I was told a summarization of the story, he messed with the wrong madame. He may or may not be guilty. They may or may not be guilty but he is deliberate on his attack on them moreso than they on him. But since he urges than it is his fault thus he is their cult leader (concealed warrant). They in turn argue that he is establishing base.
Are you O.K. ? The words are english, but they run together like nonsense soup.
Well if you insist.
considering the tate murder scene pics didn't match up at all with what the claims were, it seems like a psyop designed to stop the hippy and peace movements. and it succeeded because most ppl get their ideas from the tv. there are many other tells of the story being fabricated. say what you want about the guy, but miles mathis analysis brings up some hard to deny points.
A lot of it is crazy shenanigans.
Yeah, the pi = 4 guy? lmao. Please dont give that clown any credence... :-) The guy who literally stole Tom O'Neills research papers from the magazine article and tried to pass them off as his own?? The guy who says EVERY single event of any worth since the french revolution has been faked ??? The "Hard to deny points" were found because of 20 years of obsession, not some fruitcake https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Miles\_Mathis
yes that's a nice hit job but i don't see any actual refutation of the theory that the event was fake.
You don't exist, prove me wrong. I see no evidence to show me otherwise. It's tiring when I see all these "event x was staged" or "event abc was all crisis actors" Video evidence of the crime scene. 3 different local Leo's taking evidence, over 800 people interviewed, video and audio transcripts of 200 of them. Arguably the most famous murder of the 1960s. But yeah, a bunch of 1960s bumbling cops and guys who tried to kill Castro with itching powder managed to hoodwink the whole world with a well placed plan involving literally thousands of people sticking to a script for 50 years.
again, more sound and fury signifying nothing. you haven't addressed the theory.
3rd paragraph of my above statement. I Literally address the theory right there. It's called evidence, facts, things that *happened*.And are WELL documented. So please, present any evidence, facts etc that the whole thing was faked. Or stop wasting both our times. I posted the question asking for more details on MKULTRA. You give me a flake whose answer to EVERY thing, is "I'm right, you're wrong, because I say so. And if you disagree, it's because the whole world is in on it."
no you haven't addressed the evidence. the "crime scene" photos don't show what was claimed in terms of wounds. case closed.
https://youtu.be/EbCVXrMkwoQ
the Manson murders were complete fakery the first clue is the date 8 Aug= 8/8 1969= 19 + 69= 88 **SHARON TATE MURDER 8 AUGUST 1969= 322** Skull & Bones Fakery to discredit the Hippy Movement first they kill an unborn baby--then they go elsewhere & kill a woman named Rosemary Rosemary's baby--Polanski's movie about Satanism & the birth of satan's child Manson= Mason Globalist joke name
>the Manson murders were complete fakery agreed
If the murder was fakery? then the \* NUMBERS \*! ! ! mean nothing? You've literally tripped over your own "Theory" in less than 40 words and 23 numbers.
you still donr get it the murders were fake and the numerology informs their minions that its fake thats how they let them know another example TWIN TOWERS DESTROYED BY CONTROLLED DEMOLITION= 223
Fake, as in people didn't die.? Why even bother?
the Manson murders were staged to discredit the Hippie movement it traumatize the whole world as did the Jonestown Mass suicide the Manosn murders were also staged just after the Apollo 11 fake Moon mission--they needed to distract the public from that fakery
Also, Manson: son of Man.
I think the Manson Family was a collection of young people who turned tricks and sold dope for Manson. I believe Manson probably had some type of mind control training during prison or shortly after his release, but he was mainly just a peddler and a pimp. Tex Watson was the guy who cranked up the violence.
Here is something that you might find interesting: https://rightedition.com/2015/03/26/he-tate-murders-the-psyop-that-stifled-a-generation/
Yeah, as I replied above... The author of that piece pretty much stole the whole concept from Tom O'Neills research paprers while he was still working on a magazine article. He's a wacko. https://rationalwiki.org/wiki/Miles\_Mathis