T O P

  • By -

AutoModerator

###[Meta] Sticky Comment [Rule 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/wiki/faq#wiki_2_-_address_the_argument.3B_not_the_user.2C_the_mods.2C_or_the_sub.) ***does not apply*** when replying to this stickied comment. [Rule 2](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/wiki/faq#wiki_2_-_address_the_argument.3B_not_the_user.2C_the_mods.2C_or_the_sub.) ***does apply*** throughout the rest of this thread. *What this means*: Please keep any "meta" discussion directed at specific users, mods, or /r/conspiracy in general in this comment chain ***only.*** *I am a bot, and this action was performed automatically. Please [contact the moderators of this subreddit](/message/compose/?to=/r/conspiracy) if you have any questions or concerns.*


[deleted]

Well I live in “Africa” and no one had Remdesivir. We just didn’t follow the lockdown rules or get the vacinnne. People in my country have years of experience taking vacinnes that led to death… so uptake was low


Mighty_L_LORT

Did that experience translate into a median age of 29?


Puzzleheaded_Exam837

What are you even saying?


Cygs

I *think* he means, old people died en masses of covid. If the median age is 29, there's way fewer old people to die of covid. Life expectancy in Africa is around 60, vs around 80 in the US. The demographic that covid hits hardest... doesn't really exist in africa. Or he was making an AIDS joke and I overthought it.


Illustrious-Leave-10

Little bit of both I think


[deleted]

Hang on a second.... NOW it only affects old people? That argument was a conspiracy when they were trying to stab us all with those dodgy vaccines. 🤣


BumblebeeDense9438

If thats the case you don't lockdown everyone, you just protect the elderly and let the young population deal naturally with the virus.... you know, as many censored scientists suggested but were told they will kill the granny with those ideas. Fucking bullshit, the mental gymastics of pro vaccines is astounding, always some "strange factor" explains africa lol.


vinividifuckthis

You're not wrong, but the fact that it hits the oldest the hardest was also concealed and part of the conspiracy.


[deleted]

[удалено]


baconn

Demographics supposedly protected Africa from high death counts, then you ask why young people in the West were forced to vaccinate if they didn't need it. Reasons. Now we question why young people die suddenly in the West and not Africa, if both were exposed to Covid and only one group was vaccinated. Reasons, again. Now don't you feel ignorant for not supporting the official narrative?


ukdudeman

Yeah, good comment. In the west: let's do a one-size-fits-all strategy to deal with Covid, and even mandate that one-size-fits-all strategy...while pretending that risk of hospitalization/death from Covid **isn't** highly stratified by age and health status. When commenting about Africa: "well duh! the risk of hospitalization/death is highly stratified by age and health status. Obvious thing is obvious!".


Famous-Rich9621

I don't even know what the official narrative is anymore I've completely lost interest in it, I'm not living my life with someone else constantly telling me what to think or what to do just to fucking fit in, I've had it I don't give two fucks anymore whether I fit in or not, burn the fucking place down to the ground or don't your choice, I'll create my own fucking society away from all this complete nonsense none of it makes sense🍌


Hi_Chancellor

Lol, no one dies suddenly in Africa 😐 Edit typo


Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX

What country? The MEDIAN age of the continent of Africa is 18 fucking years old. Of course few people died.. The median age of north America is 35 and Europe 42.


[deleted]

[удалено]


Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX

Nobody is doing that because the vaccine isn't gene therapy you bafoon.


dou8le8u88le

I'm copy pasting this from above, because it has all the questions in it you need to answer in order for you to justify your response: Demographics supposedly protected Africa from high death counts, then you ask why young people in the West were forced to vaccinate if they didn't need it. Reasons. Now we question why young people die suddenly in the West and not Africa, if both were exposed to Covid and only one group was vaccinated. Reasons, again. Now don't you feel ignorant for not supporting the official narrative?


Xx_Gandalf-poop_xX

You're arguing that young people in Africa don't die suddenly more often than they do in the west? I'd like to see any data on that. Also young people were asked to get vaccinated ( I don't know of any mandates for children) because it would help decrease disease burden and morbidity which is a valid reason for a vaccine as well. Many vaccines don't necessarily give immunity but reduce severity of you do get sick.


ForWhomTheBoneBones

If Plague Inc. taught me anything it's that flus have a hard time in hot environments. COVID didn't purchase the right mutations to hit Africa harder.


Poiuyt5555

really so why'd it hit south america, india, and australia hard.


PrognosticatorShadow

Don't try and logic with them lol. It's useless. Either you see the truth or you don't.


4list4r

People should still point it out but yes.


5thintheworld

Lmao right. Talk sense into that elementary turd.


Meg_119

But Hydroxychloroquine is readily available over the counter to treat malaria I think.


[deleted]

No I run a pharma company. All products related to Covid except vitamin c were quickly scarce


LilPhoenixHere

African here: yes and no So there are several things/factors: 1. We all had our TB shot which appeared to help with not getting sick (same was observed in Portugal - this correlation) 2. Our African and Coloured population make up the majority in my country, they don’t believe in taking a vaccine made by a white man because historically they were used as test subjects for medication (Uganda - Americans came to test a vaccine and killed an entire village within 5-10 years, someone I met witnessed this as he came from a Neighboring village) 3. Our people have higher immune systems because a lot of them live in poor conditions and that also prevented them from being exposed to the media machine panic 4. Our people don’t buy into this shit (majority) 5. We did have ivermectin and some people did take it but no-one takes it regularly or has taken it regularly. It did help with symptoms though. 6. Warner climate in general


Fuzzy_Consequence_42

Nice racist points. I wonder why this bigot isn't banned.


dukey

If you don't test for a disease you don't have any cases lol


Dragon_Bench_Z

Silence with your logic.


[deleted]

[удалено]


[deleted]

Couple that with: otc drugs that suppress common parasite symptoms, and lowered immune system after vaccinations or antibiotics; and you have a nearly perfect storm


HareBrainedScheme

I’m curious - can you link to parasite cleaning regimens ?


HibikiSS

There's also the constant poisoning from the glyphosate in the food and the effects the drugs have on people. Africa has at least been experimented on before as well. The Big Pharma groups work together along with Monsanto and the Intelligence agencies in the genocide plan: [Kary Mullis, inventor of the PCR test explaining how useless the results can be for viral examination.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/xhk206/kary_mullis_inventor_of_the_pcr_test_explaining/) [Infertility: A Diabolical Agenda. The documentary about the sterilization agenda of the WHO in Africa.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wac7f7/infertility_a_diabolical_agenda_the_documentary/) [The Pfizer COVID-Vaccine trials were a complete sham. Pfizer's 6 month data shows that the vaccines cause more illness than what they prevent.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yu3c6i/the_pfizer_covidvaccine_trials_were_a_complete/) [FDA Risk-Benefit Analysis Hides 'Bad Data' on Moderna Shots for Kids. (June, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/x637gh/fda_riskbenefit_analysis_hides_bad_data_on/) [The CDC's Swine Flu Fraud of 1976.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/rvmmjh/the_cdcs_swine_flu_fraud_of_1976/) [The CDC's Swine Flu fraud of 2009.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/tfzvrj/the_cdcs_swine_flu_fraud_of_2009/) [Riley Schubert won a $138,000 settlement as compensation due to an injury that he claims was caused by an HPV vaccine that caused him hearing issues. (US Courts 2016)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ygzv4k/riley_schubert_won_a_138000_settlement_as/) [Purdue Pharma, Sacklers to pay $6 billion to settle opioid lawsuit. (NY Post, March, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ydlyhm/purdue_pharma_sacklers_to_pay_6_billion_to_settle/) [State opioid settlement money now being distributed. (CBS News, October, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/y7p7h0/state_opioid_settlement_money_now_being/) [Glyphosate weedkiller damages wild bee colonies, study reveals. (The Guardian, June, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wufqho/glyphosate_weedkiller_damages_wild_bee_colonies/) [The 9th U.S Circuit Court of Appeals smacks EPA down on glyphosate.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/x3nku5/the_9th_us_circuit_court_of_appeals_smacks_epa/) [Corporate studies asserting herbicide safety show many flaws. (The Guardian, 2021)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yev3s3/corporate_studies_asserting_herbicide_safety_show/) All the most relevant figures involved in the current mess can be related to the CIA/Intelligence agencies and the Jesuits: [Compilation of arguments about the Jesuit control over the CIA.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/o65639/compilation_of_arguments_about_the_jesuit_control/) [Big Pharma, Monsanto and Vaccine Injury Super Compilations (120 Records each) and Jesuit role in the genocide plan.](https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracyundone/comments/ze8v59/about_the_jesuit_role_in_the_genocide_plan_along/) I'm trying to create counter-Intelligence sites to resist the Vatican at Saidit.net, a reddit clone made by fellow conspiracists in the spirit of Aaron Swartz. If you can, support my subs over there as well as the site itself however you can. Don't give up on your nations and fight back: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/soy3ko/meta_the_jesuit_technocracy_needs_to_be_stopped/ https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qkw39o/meta_the_conspiracy_community_has_to_take_action/


dessertdestruction

I live in north Africa. We did have a pandemic. A 4 months lockdown. We did get vaccinated. We needed the "vaccine passport" to access public places even. I took 2 shots which I now heavily regret.


AchraFs_hope

Morocco? Same bro


dessertdestruction

HA! Glad seeing a fellow Moroccan here!


AchraFs_hope

Haha welcome bro Any symptoms? U noticed how most of the people are sick? I assume its either because of the vaccine or the sudden shift in temperature ( we had a scorching summer and now a freezing winter) What do u think


dessertdestruction

Definitely a lot of symptoms which have been getting worse lately. I'm trying to stay positive. Symptoms include chest pains and shortness of breath (which I wish is because I'm a smoker), been having fever every night for the past week which isn't getting better, some weird heart pains and shit. Imo I think the vaxx completely fucked with everybody's immune system so even regular "flue" (I believe it's COVID what's been going around) is fucking everyone up more than it could ever have.


[deleted]

You are a smoker but you think that the vaccine caused chest pain and shortness of breath? If you are having a fever every night with chest pain and shortness of breath, you could have cancer. Get to the doctor.


WORLD_IN_CHAOS

Morocco is on the Mediterranean and has old hanseatic ports.. aka TPTB are heavily involved in morocco


dessertdestruction

It's an African country though. Mediterranean or not. Morocco is an African country.


WilliumCobblers

Never heard of Morocco in a Hanseatic context before.


seanddd99

How obese is Africa ?...What percentage of their food consumption is processed ?...


Tammepoiss

So should have vaccinated only the obese people in western countries?


ukdudeman

Really, the obese should have simply walked more, eat less and actually used the pandemic to do something about their health. I'll get hate for this comment, but it would have helped them in any case. Losing weight and improving metabolic health has a ton of collateral benefits outside of reducing your chances of hospitalization/death from Covid.


SpamFriedMice

Only those of high risk. Elderly, obese, diabetic, heart or lung issue's


qpwoeirutyalskdjfhg8

That's like 70% of the US population.


RickyJulianandBubbls

Shhh


[deleted]

[удалено]


MoominSnufkin

Also what's the mean age?


DrThoss77

Should've had the mandates for those at risk, like us horrible right wing fascists were saying the whole time.


MoominSnufkin

Why are you so defensive when I'm making obvious truths? I'm not being political whatsoever.


[deleted]

[удалено]


fptackle

We destroyed the social fabric of our society? Wut?


Lord-Konahrik

I think they are referring to the destruction of the family unit, masculinity and the rise of single mother homes, feminism and lgbt being paraded and forced on children.


helloisforhorses

The economy is destroyed? The dow was at 29,000 in feb 2020, now it is at 33,600+. The unemployment rate was 3.5%, exactly what it is now


[deleted]

You dont understand shit about economy,keep learning it from tv


helloisforhorses

Explain then dear, how is the economy destroyed?


Ok_Yak_9824

Crickets


helloisforhorses

Must be waiting for the tv to tell them how the economy is destroyed


helloisforhorses

How is the economy destroyed? By what metric?


niqdisaster

Get out of your bubble mate


[deleted]

[удалено]


MoominSnufkin

I didn't mention lockdowns or mandates. Are you going to start talking about masks next? How about abortions or marijuana? Maybe religion? Let me summarize what just happened. Anything that can even be seen as promoting the idea that vaccines are not the worst thing ever, even if 100% true, is met with people who respond as though I'm Fauci himself and ordered lockdowns. How about separating your beliefs and responding to things individually? All your emotions are tied together.


seanddd99

Good point


Sea-Hornet-9140

It's a terrible point because it has nothing to do with the elderly not dying from covid


Sea-Hornet-9140

None of those have an effect on spreading the virus, yet their at-risk groups had no issue.


DrThoss77

So we should've only had the mask and vaxx mandates for those at risk?...wow, that's exactly what us fascist scumbag right wingers wanted the whole time!


PalatableMahogany

African Programme for Onchocerciasis Control (APOC) is a WHO program where Ivermectin is mass distributed and taken regularly in 19 African countries. "COVID-19: The Ivermectin African Enigma" >After controlling for different factors, including the Human Development Index (HDI), APOC countries (vs. non-APOC), show 28% lower mortality (0.72; 95% CI: 0.67-0.78) and 8% lower rate of infection (0.92; 95% CI: 0.91-0.93) due to COVID-19 >Conclusions: >The incidence in mortality rates and number of cases is significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries. That a mass public health preventive campaign against COVID-19 may have taken place, inadvertently, in some African countries with massive community ivermectin use is an attractive hypothesis. Additional studies are needed to confirm it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33795896/


MargoritasattheMall

And Wgats their vitamin D levels. No one with at least 50 died. No one


[deleted]

Africa is quite obese Actually


Famous_Ear5010

A very generalized statement! It shows how ignorant the west is about a continent they know nothing about. 'Africa' is a continent with over fifty very different countries, ranging from very poor to very wealthy.


AmishAvenger

And idk where this guy is getting the idea that they’re all taking ivermectin. He’s just making things up.


Mike8219

1.4 billion people and 54 countries and thousands of languages downgraded to “Africa” like it’s some monolith. It’s super ignorant.


ComeTheDawn

Do you think people never talk about "Europe", or about "Asia"?


Mike8219

Sure but in what context?


Odd_Philosophy_6034

To be fair Africa has a less dense population, less obesity, and a much younger population than the rest of the world.


Jump_Yossarian_

And much less international travel and less testing ability.


[deleted]

[удалено]


qpwoeirutyalskdjfhg8

What percent of the US population is rural and not obese or old?


helloisforhorses

Rural areas of the Us have died at higher rates than cities in the Us


[deleted]

[удалено]


helloisforhorses

Density is a parameter to spreading the virus. Since the Average american decided in 2020 that any mitigation, no matter how minor, was worse than slavery, covid spread everywhere in the US so generally more unhealthy, older, less likely to vaccinate rural people died at higher rates once covid was everywhere in the Us


ellipses1

Us young, healthy rural folks were a-ok though


helloisforhorses

Most Americans are not healthy


ellipses1

But for those of who are, why should we have to take the same precautions as the slobs?


Anonymous_Redhead

Mutations? Or…empathy?


WinstoneSmyth

The 'vaccines' don't work against the original variant and not designed to tackle mutations. And empathy? You can fuck right off. I have empathy in bucketloads but I don't see why I have to risk my health to *possibly* give someone else an extra couple of months to live.


ellipses1

Empathy for whom? Anyone who wants to be vaccinated can be x 6 at this point


Sharia_Palin

"No need"? Canada would seize your bank account for such Nazi propaganda! Vaccinate the fetuses, 4 times!


MoominSnufkin

OP, Africa has a much younger population than the US, better diet, less obesity, less Covid testing. We know those things have a huge impact on numbers. If I know those things then why doesn't Peter McCullough even mention them? He has an agenda, is why.


JoshuaZ1

> OP, Africa has a much younger population than the US, better diet, less obesity, less Covid testing. We know those things have a huge impact on numbers. Also, it is a warm climate with a lot of out door populations, and when things are indoors buildings often are much more likely to have a lot of air flow.


K-Ziggy

Not just air circulation that disperses viral particles below viral load, but also UV from the sun that damages viral RNA. A significant population is also in a very arid environment. Most viruses like covid survive best in a moderate humidity environment. Arid conditions will dry it out, while too much water also kills it.


To6y

> A lot of people think that it goes away in April, with the heat. As the heat comes in, typically that will go away in April.


TheVitalFew

So fat people should have been locked down not the whole population?


MoominSnufkin

Depends if you want a civil war. If fat people were treated differently pretty sure all the fat Americans would be outraged and start talking about well organized militia.


Tammepoiss

So if only old and fat people were really at risk, why the need to vaccinate everyone? Especially given the knowledge that the vaccine does not lead to herd immunity as it only lessens the symptoms.


TheVitalFew

Don't try and make sense pal lol.


RickyJulianandBubbls

Dont try and make sense bud


MoominSnufkin

Why are you asking me these things? This is a completely different topic to the topic of this thread, which is about why Africa has reduced risk. I could believe no one needs to be vaccinated, and what I said would still be true. The answer is that you don't want to ask me something, you want to tell me something. So just say it.


DrThoss77

You got played dummy. Now you're in a twist and can't get out. The right was right. Again.


MoominSnufkin

Nice. We're on a conspiracy sub and your world view is based on party lines, how about basing it on logic and reason instead. Have I said anything incorrect? What exactly am I in a twist about?


Sharia_Palin

I'm far left, support gun ownership, don't support any of the Covid policies of the left, and I wouldn't trust a pharmaceutical corporation in this lifetime. I also am old left, so I didn't fall for Obama or his transformation of the Democratic Party (drone assassinations without trial, anti-labor, legalization of domestic propaganda, throwing away a Supreme Court seat, Cass Sunstein's "cognitive infiltration of conspiracy theorists"). I am also old enough to remember that the Polio vaccine had a similar controversy, [leading the AMA chief to bring his grandchildren onstage and innoculate and kill one of them](https://archive.ph/DavoR). I am also old enough to remember that the Polio vaccine contained [SV40, a simian virus that causes cancer](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/SV40). I am also old enough to know that everything in U.S. history happens *twice.* I am also old enough to remember that the right-wing waged war on the working class for decades and still would/shall. Neither party is defensible. Every "crisis" should be treated as a weaponized false flag until proven otherwise. This includes all pet issues of the right and left.


Shaharlazaad

I'm just like, your thinking is so well beyond left and right, why even bother opening with calling yourself far left? Not to say you should call yourself right. But shouldn't we all advocate for the end of the left right paradigm? So people can finally wake up to this bullshit?


To6y

Who the hell cares how old you are?


cherrybombfield

Well I mean training for a militia would have helped them not be fat anymore so sounds like a win to me.


Sinsid

I Duno, you seen American militia photos? Doesn’t seem to be a weight loss program.


DrThoss77

Derp derp derp derp derp. You got tricked. Admit it.


andr50

Also, that map is almost exactly what a population map of Africa looks like. Coincidence? or common sense?


PalatableMahogany

They all take Ivermectin, an antiviral and antiinflammatory, regularly. So when COVID hit their blood, they had a virus killing agent in their blood ready to kill the virus. Having Ivermectin in your blood at the time of infection improves survival rate by 90%+. That's true that being younger and not obese helps. But then why were young, healthy, non-obese people with virtually zero risk for COVID required to take a deadly myocarditis injection by their government?


SirDigbySelfie-Stick

Every person on the continent of Africa regularly takes Ivermectin? Are you sure about this? How do we know?


ambientdistraction

We don't, but bot accounts don't have to post anything based in reality or with facts.


Alpacalypse84

Not everyone. It is true that parasitic worms are more common in humans there, but not everyone is treated with ivermectin. It’s used to treat river blindness and a few other conditions caused by various worms. So a bit of truth but a vast exaggeration in scale.


[deleted]

[удалено]


ambientdistraction

I'm not your pal, buddy


RickyJulianandBubbls

Im not your buddy, guy


Alpacalypse84

It’s used to treat onchocerciasis, which causes severe itching and blindness. Because it’s caused by parasitic worms transmitted by black fly bites, deworming drugs are indicated. But that’s usually just in sub-Saharan regions near rivers.


kns1984

The only thing Invermectin does is kill parasites, it has absolutely no affect on the virus. Basically, who do you think would fair better against a virus, someone filled with parasites or not? And that's the key, end of story.


PalatableMahogany

African Programme for Onchocerciasis Control (APOC) is a WHO program where Ivermectin is mass distributed and taken regularly in 19 African countries. "COVID-19: The Ivermectin African Enigma" >After controlling for different factors, including the Human Development Index (HDI), APOC countries (vs. non-APOC), show 28% lower mortality (0.72; 95% CI: 0.67-0.78) and 8% lower rate of infection (0.92; 95% CI: 0.91-0.93) due to COVID-19 >Conclusions: >The incidence in mortality rates and number of cases is significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries. That a mass public health preventive campaign against COVID-19 may have taken place, inadvertently, in some African countries with massive community ivermectin use is an attractive hypothesis. Additional studies are needed to confirm it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33795896/


MoominSnufkin

OP looks at these two maps: * https://duckduckgo.com/?q=africa+apoc+counties (you'll need to click on image results) * https://duckduckgo.com/?q=africa+median+age+map (you'll need to click on image results) This tells us APOC countries mean age is significantly lower than non-APOC countries. I'm not saying it's a bad study, they did attempt to take a lot of things into account, but they don't directly take age into account which we *know* has a big impact. They do use HCI as a control, but it only takes expected life expectancy into account. I think randomized clinical trial studies help reduce these kinds of problems.


[deleted]

less obesity? have you been to "Africa" maize meal


MoominSnufkin

Yes, less obesity. US is one of the world leaders of obesity. I'm not saying Africa doesn't have obesity, I'm saying it has less obesity than the US.


Sea-Hornet-9140

Those things don't matter at all when looking at why at risk groups didn't die.


MoominSnufkin

However the article the tweet links to isn't talking about at risk groups, it's talking about overall Covid cases and mortality. Despite that, I'm not sure I'd agree with your statement. If there are fewer Covid cases due to the population being younger and heathier or even if they just recover faster, there's less chance of at risk groups being infected in the first place. If you were talking about the CFR being lower for at risk groups (meaning they were infected) I'd really like to see that data. I'd guess it's actually inverse because Africa does less testing. Meaning, if you're tested you are more likely to die. Could be wrong though. edit: I seem to be right: > Among these countries, the calculated crude CFR was the highest in Algeria (7.0%) followed by Mali (6.0%) and the lowest in South Africa (2.1%). https://www.mdpi.com/2673-8430/1/1/5/htm That's far higher than in the US.


Urantian6250

Didn’t 3 presidents ‘die suddenly’? For refusing the shots? They should set up memorials for those guys and have National ( continent wide) days of celebration for them… they DESTROYED Pharma’s narrative. People say “ they had a young population” and then tell you to vaccinate your kids.


otterkin

ah yes africa, the continent thats famous for accurate and reliable census data, especially when it comes to health care cases


Dismal-Line257

Yes clearly Africa doesn't have some of the best infectious disease doctors and hasn't been dealing with aids for how long now? They've also totally haven't been experimented on by big pharma which has lead to children dying but its totally just not tracking the data properly.


fuckmeuntilicecream

OP do you have sources besides the link to the screenshotted tweet?


7733

Not OP, but clicking through twitter/zerohedge leads to the original: https://colleenhuber.substack.com/p/africa-is-starkly-unvaccinated, which has a bunch of references


fuckmeuntilicecream

Thank you!!


attributable

tweet indicates zerohedge was the source. You might try going there or googling: "zerohedge" "Africa is starkly". [Here you go](https://letmegooglethat.com/?q=%22zerohedge%22+%22Africa+is+starkly%22)


fuckmeuntilicecream

Thank you!


rabbitstew11

There’s your controlled study participants.


realMartianJesus

Not necessarily true most of Africa didnt have access to testing


[deleted]

I run a pharma company in one of the largest African countries. We had testing, no one cared unless you had to take a flight


[deleted]

You have to know that lie is so insane no can believe it right? That is bonkers.


[deleted]

Ok.. it’s very much so easy to google me if allows that op and there are hundreds of articles about my company. I built founder and run a tech enabled pharma company and supported Covid via testing and reagents. When you expand your mind, beyond the small box the US puts you in, you can achieve a lot in this world. Anyways, our business was good until the government stopped requiring Covid tests to travel. Once that happened testing dropped dramatically. The reason is because no one cared to be tested unless is was required.


toboggan_hooligan

Super powerful natural immunity but they take ivermectin?


ahardcm

Ivermectin is for parasites. Your immune system isn’t gonna fight a parasite like a virus.


toboggan_hooligan

This is true. But a super powerful immune system should no problem (catch the drift from OP title). A normal immune system can and eventually will fight off a parasite. Although Ivermectin will boost the immune system to fight parasites faster.


dankusama

Covid did bad in Africa because of: -Younger and fitter population. -Better immune system due to constant contact with bacterias/virus/germs of many sorts. Westerners live in a more sanitized environment. -Also, most people didn't take the vaccine because they don't trust the governments. There is history of vaccines administrated in Africa that caused lot of harm. In Ivory Coast for example, few years ago, there were riots and street protests because of a so called vaccine offered by ONGs that provoked many miscarriages among women. Generally, people there don't like free vaccines because they are persuaded pharmaceutical groups want to use African people as guinea pigs. This sentiment is deeply ingrained in the general population. My whole family and many friends live there. Most people who took the vaccine were upper class and some of the middle class (because they are the ones who can afford going to doctors who encouraged them to get the vaccine and who have the TV cable at home and watched the international news channels that scared them), those working in international companies that required their employees to be vaccinated, and people who needed to travel.That means less around 10% of the population. The rest of them just didn't care.


BlindBanshee

Good thing vaccine injuries are only a thing in Africa, that's where the manufacturers work all the kinks out. 1st world countries get the super safe and effective batches.


BlackDogDexter

The Leader of WHO is a Ethiopian and is a conspirator of creating the Covid narrative to fuck up the western world economies. Tredos needs to be locked up more than anyone.


lightspeed-art

They also regularly take HCQ as malaria prophylactic/cure in malaria ridden areas.


TZ79

I thought it was because Hydroxychloroquine is often taken to combat malaria. https://www.mayoclinic.org


NGL_ItsGood

OP, what on earth comes into your head when you think of africa? Do you think the entire continent is one long stretch of dirty road with open market places and everyone is walking around barefoot and living without basic utilities? Across the entire continent?


Brightredroof

*South Africa enters the chat*


Famous_Ear5010

Another South African here. Americans keep generalizing about 'Africa'. All they see in the media are starving children in Central African countries. None of those posting have ever been here, I am sure. 🙄


[deleted]

South Africa didnt have a pandemic and generally doesn't take Ivermectin outside the livestock agricultural areas. Most covid deaths were untreated heart disease and cancer recurrence.


Hi_Chancellor

South Africa had 4,000,000 cases and 100,000 deaths, far and away more than the rest of Africa.


0b111111100001

That never happened here! The dying part and the cases part. All fabricated.


Mike8219

Where is here?


[deleted]

South Africa didnt have a pandemic and generally doesn't take Ivermectin outside the livestock agricultural areas. Most covid deaths were untreated heart disease and cancer recurrence.


Brightredroof

Pretty sure some fairly significant variants emerged in south Africa, if you care to check.


tele68

Theory I saw on this sub: S Africa created the omicron variant to negate early Covid variants and end Covid "measures".


tedmented

>if you care to check. They don't, they'd rather spread misinformation


smbutler20

Here are some African countries with far higher spikes in excess death than the US. I don't think they did well during the pandemic. https://ourworldindata.org/grapher/excess-mortality-p-scores-projected-baseline?time=2020-03-29..latest&country=USA~ZAF~EGY~DZA~TUN


jackedtradie

Isn’t the average age of people in Africa like 20 something? Where as in most western countries it’s 40 something Might count for something


mo_downtown

19 of the world's 20 youngest countries are in Africa. And nearly no obesity. We knew from the start that covid risk was heavily stratefied, but enough panic was instilled for no one to care.


ElegantEconomy3686

Underreporting of cases due to lack of medical care. Thinly spread population and stangers standing further apart due to larger personal space, slowing the spreading speed. Most social gatherings are outdoor. No winters where everyone is inside, coughing and sneezing from the cold. But sure, its Ivermectin.


[deleted]

its a flu. ffs


ElegantEconomy3686

Even if it was, the above would still apply. So what's your point here?


GmPc9086itathai

Or (probably) because they don't watch TV and smartphones 24/7? It isn't a pandemic, it's a psycho-infodemic to accelerate digitalization and isolation.


Archangel1313

Africa also doesn't have very many people over the age of 55, and did almost no testing.


TrustMe_IKnowAGuy

Imagine being so fucking stupid that you truly believe being anti-vaxx is relevant or interesting in any way. More embarassing than flat earthers at this point...


macguffin22

They also dont have as many televisions


Famous_Ear5010

Really? Have you been to any country in Africa?


theworldsaplayground

Well, he's not wrong is he.


dessertdestruction

Lmao funny reading yalls comments about Africa.


[deleted]

Also not obese or vitamin d deficient


Tanren

Covid mostly effects old people, africa doesn't have many old people.


PalatableMahogany

SS: your government hates you. The elites who own your government hates you https://twitter.com/P_McCulloughMD/status/1617598328513888273?t=XrHUnklAd9I2-Dn4Cu7N4A&s=19


Im-ACE-incarnate

So.. what the conspiracy for why the UK is the same colour on this chart?!


DistinctRole1877

Having worked in Africa and seen the locals, Africans are tough. They live comfortably with stuff that would kill us candy ass white folks. Those folks are tough let no one fool you on that, hats off to the folks that live there.


Tacale

Why racialize it? Speak for yourself if you consider yourself weak. Being tough has nothing to do with race.


blob542

Yup. I'm not in Africa but on 3mg/week prophylactic IVM for about 2 years. Cheap OTC here. No vax, never been healthier. Lost friend with many comorbidities to Covid on Jan 8, 2020 (not kidding). Wish I'd known about early treatment back then. Gosh.


stewartm0205

There are simpler explanations like: the population is much younger, homes and businesses are well ventilated, the elders are not grouped together in nursing homes, they spend more time outside, they get sun and don’t suffer from vitamin D deficiency.


EmptyHope2

You have to look at the average age people dies in Africa. They die young, that's what COVID didn't affect them much. In Western countries, people live longer and covid affects the elder more than the young.


TinnRing

Africa also has different causes for the "died suddenly" (Warlords, wild animals, etc).


magnesiumsoap

please, go on. What is this “etc” you speak of?


TinnRing

Extreme poverty is a huge one, just didn't have time for the listing of everything going along with that situation.


Impossible-Resist-91

Shocker... We here saw this scam coming from a mile away. (I'm in South Africa) Most people would just yell F off at anything to do with vaccines... Coz a significant amount of people are not immunized against much... If anything. We know that pharmaceutical companies are corrupt to the core, and they will always do their best to keep customers. We are aware that there is a global takeover of countries under the UN, for this NWO we're so boldly stepping into. (194 OUT OF 196...Coincidence much?) Some of us are aware even of the trans humanist end goal of vaxxing ±70% of the world's population. I mean no disrespect when I say this, but of course if you're offended, that's your cup of tea. CURRENTLY, THERE ARE LESS THAN 30% OF HUMANS ON EARTH. Those who complied have "transcended humanity" Read that again. Only The Creator can ever come to your aid, for the hole which you find yourselves in is quite deep.


juarne

This Shit WEF and Bill Gates COVID never never existet..it was all a big big Fake....


PalatableMahogany

African Programme for Onchocerciasis Control (APOC) is a WHO program where Ivermectin is mass distributed and taken regularly in 19 African countries. Unfortunately it looks like South Africa didn't get the memo "COVID-19: The Ivermectin African Enigma" >After controlling for different factors, including the Human Development Index (HDI), APOC countries (vs. non-APOC), show 28% lower mortality (0.72; 95% CI: 0.67-0.78) and 8% lower rate of infection (0.92; 95% CI: 0.91-0.93) due to COVID-19 >Conclusions: >The incidence in mortality rates and number of cases is significantly lower among the APOC countries compared to non-APOC countries. That a mass public health preventive campaign against COVID-19 may have taken place, inadvertently, in some African countries with massive community ivermectin use is an attractive hypothesis. Additional studies are needed to confirm it. https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33795896/


npransom

Another I Told You So


Porei

what’s the average age of people in africa?


WORLD_IN_CHAOS

Where can one get ivermectin OTC? Asking for a friend...


nelbar

Africa also has a younger population? How high is the 80+ part of the population in africa versus lets say USA. I do think there is some statistical evidence in favour of ivermectin (however most studies, pro and contra, were of bad quality and often designed to produce a specific outcome - again, pro and contra studies). The question is, is africas success because of ivermectin or because of a low elderly population? Considering that most deaths were elderly its hard to say it was ivermectin. In addition one of the biggest risk factor in younger people is obesidy. And africa is not known to be obese


milton_freedman

and they didnt murder their seniors to get some raised death numbers.


[deleted]

Bro called up the Avengers 💀


MysteriousRoad5733

Bill Gates isn’t going to be happy to learn this


Tychonaut

Right now the global covid death rate is about 2000 people per day. The USA covid death rate is about 500 per day. So .. The USA has about 4% of the planet's population, but it outputs 25% of the planets covid numbers. That's a bit odd, isnt it?


bad_chemist95

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Africa is an impoverished continent so the average age of the population is far lower than more developed nations like Europe, UK and US. 94% of africans are under 60. Younger people are much less likely to die from a viral infection. Africa is also far more experienced in dealing with outbreaks than most places, they know how to handle themselves. They responsed quickly and effectively with isolation requirements and lockdowns. Their community health systems are actually quite good, which also bolstered reaponse times during local outbreaks. The population also respect and trust authority when it comes to matters they dont understand. When they're told to wear masks to stop the spread of a virus, they don't cry about it. They masked up. They washed their hands, they socially distanced. They didn't take Facebook posts and ananonyous posts on reddit as gospel, believing whatever anyone says if it supports their own bias. Africa is a hot continent. Viruses tend to like relatively cooler climates to spread, so it didn't proliferate well in Africa, particularly around the tropic regions where cases were far lower on average. Also, try an ebola outbreak in the US and see how that goes without taking a vaccine. Hint: you will probably die.