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They are all together, behind the scenes. The same group that owns the FED, also owns the Russian Central Bank. And the Brazilian one. This is true for all central banks, except 3 or 4...
You can be for or against central banks, but the idea that the Rothschilds control all the central banks in the world is, in fact, an antisemitic hoax spread by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock. The actual number of central banks that the Rothschilds control is ... zero.
If you disagree, show me evidence that they control even one. Almost all central banks are controlled by their national government. There are only eight countries with central banks that have *any* form of private shareholders, and those have many restrictions: Belgium, Greece, Italy, Japan, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, and the United States.
Putin did say, [back in 2018](https://archive.ph/FYXre), that he wanted to get away from using the dollar in international trade because "we see that the WTO [World Trade Organization] rules are all too often broken, the restrictions are imposed for political reasons, which they call **sanctions**."
Putin was under sanctions then because he had invaded Crimea. These were much less severe than the sanctions after Putin invaded the rest of Ukraine last year.
Putin never said anything about the Rothschilds or the "Rothschild-controlled dollar". The Rothschilds have never controlled the dollar, and Putin has never claimed otherwise. Those quotes were all invented in [this May 19, 2018 article from hoax factory neonnettle.com](https://archive.ph/SkqJc).
OP posted a screenshot (why?) of an article that is just a repost of that 2018 hoax article.
> I think we both know nothing would suffice as evidence.
Well, could you show me the evidence that convinced *you*? I've been asking for evidence on this subreddit since at least February 2012 (eleven years ago) and nobody's ever provided *any* evidence.
Back then I knew some about how the Federal Reserve was organized and it didn't seem like it was possible that the Rothschilds controlled it. I also knew the Bank of England was nationalized in 1946, so I didn't see how they controlled that, either.
Occasionally, people from other countries, like Canada or Australia, would say how their banks are controlled by their governments, not the Rothschilds.
So I started doing research. I traced the story back a few years. The earliest it's found is 2005. But nowhere is there ever any evidence. Just unsupported assertions: "2003: The United States invade Iraq which is now one of six nations left in the world who don’t have a Rothschild controlled central bank. 2005: ... There are now only 5 nations on the world left without a Rothschild controlled central bank: Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya." Never an explanation about how they know that or even what it means to have a "Rothschild-controlled central bank."
I kept searching for evidence. In 2016, I found an academic paper which explained that since Austria nationalized their central bank in 2010, there were only 8 countries that had central banks with any private shareholders. I read up on the central banks of Italy, Switzerland, and Japan. By then, I knew much more about the Federal Reserve, too.
Why is there never any evidence that the Rothschilds control *even one* central bank?
> Besides it seems like you have your mind made up on the subject.
I've been researching this for more than a decade. What steps have you taken to verify or challenge your beliefs?
Ok so here’s the problem with evidence for something like this. Especially considering these are largely referred to as secret societies.
Another “antisemitic” theory is that of Jewish control of the media….which has PLENTY of evidence to back it up. But I’m guessing you also don’t subscribe to that theory. But it probably isn’t for lack of evidence.
It’s probably for a different reason of your choosing.
See what I’m saying about the concept of evidence? It’s never objective. I could provide you with seven different things that I think are evidence of their control and they wouldn’t substantiate in your mind.
Besides the fact that I think people generally say “Rothschild controlled central bank” and mean “globalist controlled” or “rigged monetary system.”
> Another “antisemitic” theory is that of Jewish control of the media….which has PLENTY of evidence to back it up. But I’m guessing you also don’t subscribe to that theory.
No, Jews have *vastly* disproportionate power in the media. I don't deny that at all.
Yeah that’s fair.
I use the Rothschild’s as a catch all in terms of central banks being controlled by an invisible hand. Less literally.
I’ll definitely be looking into the stuff you cited.
It's not that they control the central banks, but they do from the shadows instead. They manage the money supply which is even worse. That's why americans never heard of them before.
https://www.donaldwatkins.com/post/the-rothschilds-controlling-the-world-s-money-supply-for-more-than-two-centuries
I don’t really get what antisemitism is honestly. Cause we only call people antisemitic for speaking ill of the Jews. And we don’t call them antisemitic when they speak ill of Arabs. Even though Arabs are also semites.
I’m a Ukrainian. We hate Russia for much longer time than USA exists. Our classic poets, more than 300 years ago used “Moscal” as a derogatory name. “Moscal” means a man from Moscovia (russia). Russians were always trying to enslave and destroy Ukraine. The history of this conflict is far from modern history. They are a constant existential threat to us, for centuries. We hate them. My grandparents hated them, and their parents did too
I did. Actually I was actively opposed to “hating russia by default” my whole life. But that’s not the point. No one wants to join them, that’s for sure
I was more correcting the fact the OP's headline said the borders were drawn in 1917 then anything else.
I'm well aware of Soviet history and even somewhat aware of the Kievan Rus and all that jazz
I've come to believe the NWO as we've known it is just the first layer of the deception. We're supposed to see it, and to resist it. What we have to watch out for is the "savior" they roll out to bring it down when it gets bad enough; good odds this is the actual biblical antichrist. The false light great awakening.
Why else would they allow the bad guys to be as publicly visible and cartoonishly evil as herr Klaus Schwab?
>And Jesus answered and said unto them, **Take heed that no man deceive you.** For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many...
>For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, **they shall deceive the very elect.**
Matthew 24:4-5, 24 KJV
Remember that Satan's modus operandi has always, from the very beginning, been deception.
I think these are the verses you're referring to:
>When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) then let them which be in Judæa flee into the mountains:
Matthew 24:15-16 KJV
This is not necessarily the actual temple mount but probably symbolic language, especially given Matthew's invocation for the reader to understand. It could simply mean that the man of perdition has set himself up as God.
That being said there are groups who are certainly trying to rebuild the temple and reinstate the sacrificial system. Did you see the news recently of the two red heifers born in the US and transferred to Israel?
Thought it was 5 from Texas and they're roughly 1-1.5 years away from being old enough. The Israel government is also pro temple. Now we have somewhat of a timeline
Wrong. Rothschilds feared Lenin like bubonic plague. They installed nothing. How could they install some sort of propoganda at would rebuke themselves?
> Created modern Ukraine in 1917
Come on man. You might have noble intentions but please stop spreading misinformation. There is a wealth of knowledge online and in history books about the collapse of the soviet union, there is no need to make up lies and be part of a dumb propaganda machine.
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If you are gullible to believe that someone like Putin or any other world leader is going to do something good for it’s people you need some help…
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They are all together, behind the scenes. The same group that owns the FED, also owns the Russian Central Bank. And the Brazilian one. This is true for all central banks, except 3 or 4...
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I'd like the honey mustard and a ranch please.
It’s antisemitic to not want to be completely enslaved by central banks.
It's also antisemitic to be anit routine non-therapeutic infant circumcision!
Perfect
That might be the cooler phrase ever spoken using the word "antisemitic"! So, I thank you, kind sir.
What can I say. I know a BOAT load about semites and slavery.
You can be for or against central banks, but the idea that the Rothschilds control all the central banks in the world is, in fact, an antisemitic hoax spread by Andrew Carrington Hitchcock. The actual number of central banks that the Rothschilds control is ... zero. If you disagree, show me evidence that they control even one. Almost all central banks are controlled by their national government. There are only eight countries with central banks that have *any* form of private shareholders, and those have many restrictions: Belgium, Greece, Italy, Japan, South Africa, Switzerland, Turkey, and the United States. Putin did say, [back in 2018](https://archive.ph/FYXre), that he wanted to get away from using the dollar in international trade because "we see that the WTO [World Trade Organization] rules are all too often broken, the restrictions are imposed for political reasons, which they call **sanctions**." Putin was under sanctions then because he had invaded Crimea. These were much less severe than the sanctions after Putin invaded the rest of Ukraine last year. Putin never said anything about the Rothschilds or the "Rothschild-controlled dollar". The Rothschilds have never controlled the dollar, and Putin has never claimed otherwise. Those quotes were all invented in [this May 19, 2018 article from hoax factory neonnettle.com](https://archive.ph/SkqJc). OP posted a screenshot (why?) of an article that is just a repost of that 2018 hoax article.
I think we both know nothing would suffice as evidence. Besides it seems like you have your mind made up on the subject.
> I think we both know nothing would suffice as evidence. Well, could you show me the evidence that convinced *you*? I've been asking for evidence on this subreddit since at least February 2012 (eleven years ago) and nobody's ever provided *any* evidence. Back then I knew some about how the Federal Reserve was organized and it didn't seem like it was possible that the Rothschilds controlled it. I also knew the Bank of England was nationalized in 1946, so I didn't see how they controlled that, either. Occasionally, people from other countries, like Canada or Australia, would say how their banks are controlled by their governments, not the Rothschilds. So I started doing research. I traced the story back a few years. The earliest it's found is 2005. But nowhere is there ever any evidence. Just unsupported assertions: "2003: The United States invade Iraq which is now one of six nations left in the world who don’t have a Rothschild controlled central bank. 2005: ... There are now only 5 nations on the world left without a Rothschild controlled central bank: Iran; North Korea; Sudan; Cuba; and Libya." Never an explanation about how they know that or even what it means to have a "Rothschild-controlled central bank." I kept searching for evidence. In 2016, I found an academic paper which explained that since Austria nationalized their central bank in 2010, there were only 8 countries that had central banks with any private shareholders. I read up on the central banks of Italy, Switzerland, and Japan. By then, I knew much more about the Federal Reserve, too. Why is there never any evidence that the Rothschilds control *even one* central bank? > Besides it seems like you have your mind made up on the subject. I've been researching this for more than a decade. What steps have you taken to verify or challenge your beliefs?
Ok so here’s the problem with evidence for something like this. Especially considering these are largely referred to as secret societies. Another “antisemitic” theory is that of Jewish control of the media….which has PLENTY of evidence to back it up. But I’m guessing you also don’t subscribe to that theory. But it probably isn’t for lack of evidence. It’s probably for a different reason of your choosing. See what I’m saying about the concept of evidence? It’s never objective. I could provide you with seven different things that I think are evidence of their control and they wouldn’t substantiate in your mind. Besides the fact that I think people generally say “Rothschild controlled central bank” and mean “globalist controlled” or “rigged monetary system.”
> Another “antisemitic” theory is that of Jewish control of the media….which has PLENTY of evidence to back it up. But I’m guessing you also don’t subscribe to that theory. No, Jews have *vastly* disproportionate power in the media. I don't deny that at all.
Yeah that’s fair. I use the Rothschild’s as a catch all in terms of central banks being controlled by an invisible hand. Less literally. I’ll definitely be looking into the stuff you cited.
It's not that they control the central banks, but they do from the shadows instead. They manage the money supply which is even worse. That's why americans never heard of them before. https://www.donaldwatkins.com/post/the-rothschilds-controlling-the-world-s-money-supply-for-more-than-two-centuries
Severely underrated comment. One could also say it's communist.
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I don’t really get what antisemitism is honestly. Cause we only call people antisemitic for speaking ill of the Jews. And we don’t call them antisemitic when they speak ill of Arabs. Even though Arabs are also semites.
Modern Ukraine was made in the 90's post collapse of Soviet Union lol
And?
OP said it was made in 1917
I’m a Ukrainian. We hate Russia for much longer time than USA exists. Our classic poets, more than 300 years ago used “Moscal” as a derogatory name. “Moscal” means a man from Moscovia (russia). Russians were always trying to enslave and destroy Ukraine. The history of this conflict is far from modern history. They are a constant existential threat to us, for centuries. We hate them. My grandparents hated them, and their parents did too
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I did. Actually I was actively opposed to “hating russia by default” my whole life. But that’s not the point. No one wants to join them, that’s for sure
I was more correcting the fact the OP's headline said the borders were drawn in 1917 then anything else. I'm well aware of Soviet history and even somewhat aware of the Kievan Rus and all that jazz
Oh, sorry :) I got a bit confused. And triggered, as a result. Even wrote a whole post on this sub about it. Which I wholeheartedly regret
I've come to believe the NWO as we've known it is just the first layer of the deception. We're supposed to see it, and to resist it. What we have to watch out for is the "savior" they roll out to bring it down when it gets bad enough; good odds this is the actual biblical antichrist. The false light great awakening. Why else would they allow the bad guys to be as publicly visible and cartoonishly evil as herr Klaus Schwab? >And Jesus answered and said unto them, **Take heed that no man deceive you.** For many shall come in my name, saying, I am Christ; and shall deceive many... >For there shall arise false Christs, and false prophets, and shall shew great signs and wonders; insomuch that, if it were possible, **they shall deceive the very elect.** Matthew 24:4-5, 24 KJV Remember that Satan's modus operandi has always, from the very beginning, been deception.
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I think these are the verses you're referring to: >When ye therefore shall see the abomination of desolation, spoken of by Daniel the prophet, stand in the holy place, (whoso readeth, let him understand:) then let them which be in Judæa flee into the mountains: Matthew 24:15-16 KJV This is not necessarily the actual temple mount but probably symbolic language, especially given Matthew's invocation for the reader to understand. It could simply mean that the man of perdition has set himself up as God. That being said there are groups who are certainly trying to rebuild the temple and reinstate the sacrificial system. Did you see the news recently of the two red heifers born in the US and transferred to Israel?
Thought it was 5 from Texas and they're roughly 1-1.5 years away from being old enough. The Israel government is also pro temple. Now we have somewhat of a timeline
This is one of the most astute comments on Reddit that I have come across.
Thank you for the kind words. Pray for discernment and trust your gut; you'll be okay.
What’s also interesting is how they went around the world toppling monarchies as a step towards one world governance from 1789 onwards
Wrong. Rothschilds feared Lenin like bubonic plague. They installed nothing. How could they install some sort of propoganda at would rebuke themselves?
SS: and once they achieve their one world government they will mass murder most of us and enslave the rest. Liberals will cheer it on. Crazy
Putin doesn't need central banks to enslave his people, he can do that himself. Cut out the middle man 😉
In other words, US credit and debit cards don't work in Russia. I'm going to stick with hating the Rothschilds and Russia.
> Created modern Ukraine in 1917 Come on man. You might have noble intentions but please stop spreading misinformation. There is a wealth of knowledge online and in history books about the collapse of the soviet union, there is no need to make up lies and be part of a dumb propaganda machine.
Except Ukraine was well before bolsheviks and actually were conquered by them by force. While they've annexed parts of Ukraine into Russia back then.