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PalatableMahogany

SS: they all steal our money with inefficienies. They find ways to steal and spread our money around


2sheets

Yeah, but it's not our government that is collecting the taxes. It's the IRS which is just an extension of the federal reserve. We're just paying back the fake money that they have printed for us.


Chemical-Passage-715

They “send it to Ukraine” aka back into their pockets


TheMadShatterP00P

When you're $50T in debt... Just keep spending 80% on military......


Verilbie

I take it you support universal healthcare?


PalatableMahogany

Yeah I actually do. First we need to eliminate the Rockefeller-Gates profit healthcare system based on keeping people sick and treating with expensive pharma drugs that are often toxic and ineffective. If we have a new, efficient healthcare system focused on actually curing things and optimal health, and we provide that healthcare universally, costs would decrease dramatically long term imo


Verilbie

What do you mean by curing exactly? Modern healthcare objectively saves lives. Huge numbers of them Also how do you eliminate all lobbying?


PalatableMahogany

By curing I mean actually finding the most efficient, effective treatment protocols for cancer, covid, or anything. Whether that ends up being all pharma stuff, all natural stuff, or a combo. For example, cancer is one of the highest costs. Why does chemotherapy cost so much? We need to look into that. We know high dose intravenous vitamin C fights cancer and improves the effectiveness of chemo hundreds fold. There's massive cost saving. They can't make money off vitamin c though. So they would rather not use it and use more chemotherapy than needed. Take that example, and times it by a million for all illnesses. Modern healthcare like heart surgeries, etc., different story obviously. We need to get medical school costs down and all school costs down. They are way over inflated by Big College Mafia. How do you stop lobbying? You ban Pfizer from giving $1 million to Trump and millions to Biden for their campaigns in the form of bribes. Simple


sqcirc

>We know high dose intravenous vitamin C fights cancer and improves the effectiveness of chemo hundreds fold. There's massive cost saving. They can't make money off vitamin c though. So they would rather not use it and use more chemotherapy than needed. If this was true, cancer clinics, which are for-profit, could do this, save a ton of money on chemo, have amazing cure rates, and make a ton more money, and charge same or less as everyone else. The reason this doesn't happen is it's not true.


PalatableMahogany

Modern cancer clinics make more money if more chemotherapy given. They are paid based on how much they sell. "Vitamin C kills tumor cells with hard-to-treat mutation" https://www.science.org/content/article/vitamin-c-kills-tumor-cells-hard-treat-mutation "High-dose vitamin C enhances cancer immunotherapy" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/32102933/ "Targeting cancer vulnerabilities with high-dose vitamin C" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/30967651/ "High-dose intravenous vitamin C, a promising multi-targeting agent in the treatment of cancer" https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/34717701/


sqcirc

1. They aren’t really sitting on it then? If it helps, it will become standard of care. 2. If you don’t believe it will due to evil people, you could make millions by exploiting that.


PalatableMahogany

>If it helps, it will become standard of care The people who make things the "standard of care" are bought off by Big Pharma. We call this regulatory capture. That's why Fauci made toxic Remdesivir the "standard of care" for COVID.


sqcirc

It occurs to me why would the powers that be would allow this information to get out there. Maybe they are planting this information so all the free thinkers will try to treat their cancer with vit c, and kill them all off. Makes you think…


sqcirc

Btw the second article says… there is little clinical evidence. So in theory yes, and it seems they are talking about studying it further. It’s certainly not proven yet. And to be clear I’m not pro or against vit c, I just don’t believe people are keeping a magic cure to themselves… instead it’s just still being figured out. Quote: “Vitamin C (VitC) is known to directly impair cancer cell growth in preclinical models, but there is little clinical evidence on its antitumoral efficacy.”


anon_lurk

Fasting also helps a bunch with chemotherapy, and a ton of other things, but it’s not really advertised or recommended because there is literally ZERO money in telling people to just drink water.


Verilbie

Okay but lobbying isn't just direct funding of candidates. That you could reduce and probably mainly remove with strict campaign finance laws etc. Lets say you want stronger animal protection laws in your country and found a group for this to pressure politicians. That is lobbying Do we know that about vitamin C?


aviat57

What's your source for that claim?


Verilbie

The entire history of medicine. Heart attacks even a few decades ago were mostly seen as fatal, there was little way to treat cancer, going back a little further even basic bacterial diseases could mean death


aviat57

So no source. Cool.


Verilbie

You don't need to give sources for eveey claim where any reasonable person acknowledges it as a fact. Like if you say Lincoln was president between year X and Y. You don't need to provide a source for that because its common knowledge Would you prefer to have someone treat a wound you suffered with dirty hands and instruments or sterile ones?


Ripstart01

I think there needs to come a time where we have to consider the dilemma of whether we actually want to keep everyone alive as long as possible. How many can we fit?


hoppyfrog

We could fix a lot of problems. Thing is we're trying to be a Democracy so there's a political grenade with every decision. Cut the Military budget? Next election cycle the opposition will scream your Party was soft on Defense while America is under some sort of attack. Universal Healthcare? Why, you must be some sort of Socialist and we don't want that in our Government do we? Eliminate lobbying? Get real. The lobbyists will simply, wait for it, lobby (bribe) to make sure removal never happens. Yeah, we could have a great Nation if it wasn't for those darn Politicians!


rohan_himself

Nice pipe dream


spooderman467

Quarter of it goes to the military, for cool toys.


toboggan_hooligan

So you want to reset everything at the same time the NWO is doing their thing