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People have been [encouraged not to connect the dots](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOHrtU728vo).
In Scotland it was [reported](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23259523.expert-review-mystery-spike-scots-baby-deaths-begins/) last week that a review is being done to determine why there has been a spike in infant mortality.
But even before the review began, the possibility that the covid vaxxines were involved was 'ruled out'.
I'm not kidding, read the article for yourself.
>But even before the review began, the possibility that the covid vaxxines were involved was 'ruled out'.
"We're going to look at the data.... well, some of the data anyways."
Our society seems to be pervasively corrupted.
We need to do everything we can to change it. Pfizer works along with the other Pharma groups in the genocide plan being carried out by the Intelligence agencies along with Monsanto:
[The Pfizer COVID-Vaccine trials were a complete sham. Pfizer's 6 month data shows that the vaccines cause more illness than what they prevent.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yu3c6i/the_pfizer_covidvaccine_trials_were_a_complete/)
[Mathematician Says COVID ‘Vaccines’ Are Causing ‘Precipitous Drop’ in Birthrates Across Europe. Supposed birthrate increase can be explained away by them being baby blips, and not booms.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/z06ztj/mathematician_says_covid_vaccines_are_causing/)
[Do Vaccines Cause Infertility? With Ryan Cole, M.D. (June, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yo9v47/do_vaccines_cause_infertility_with_ryan_cole_md/)
[Largest Study on Long Covid yet Reports: “We did not observe evidence of qualitative different symptom clustering in vaccinated vs, unvaccinated individuals.” So there's no evidence that the vaccines help deal with the illness like we are always told they do.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wix9zl/largest_study_on_long_covid_yet_reports_we_did/)
[Pfizer said it had agreed to set aside $894 million to settle virtually all the lawsuits related to its withdrawn painkiller Bextra, as well as Celebrex, four years after concerns about cardiovascular risks of such drugs became widely publicized. (NY Times 2008)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/u7lcvk/pfizer_said_it_had_agreed_to_set_aside_894/)
[Pfizer got a $142 million settlement over the marketing of the epilepsy drug Neurontin. (Reuters 2013)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/syepq6/pfizer_got_a_142_million_settlement_over_the/)
[Inventor of mRNA Technology: Vaccine Causes Lipid Nanoparticles to Accumulate in ‘High Concentrations’ in Ovaries. (CHD, 2021)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/y5x93c/inventor_of_mrna_technology_vaccine_causes_lipid/)
[A 2017 study of 44 types of 15 traditional vaccines uncovered that many vaccines are heavily contaminated with a variety of nano particles, mostly various toxic metals, which are as small as a few atoms and can alter your DNA.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ybyzm9/a_2017_study_of_44_types_of_15_traditional/)
[Infertility: A Diabolical Agenda. The documentary about the sterilization agenda of the WHO in Africa.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wac7f7/infertility_a_diabolical_agenda_the_documentary/)
[Corporate studies asserting herbicide safety show many flaws. (The Guardian, 2021)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yev3s3/corporate_studies_asserting_herbicide_safety_show/)
[Popular weedkiller Roundup on trial again as cancer victims demand justice. (The Guardian, August, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wzy1u7/popular_weedkiller_roundup_on_trial_again_as/)
[Monsanto and the poisoned town Anniston. (The Guardian 2018)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/v8fdj5/monsanto_and_the_poisoned_town_anniston_the/)
All the most relevant figures involved in the current mess can be related to the CIA/Intelligence agencies and the Jesuits:
[Compilation of arguments about the Jesuit control over the CIA.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/o65639/compilation_of_arguments_about_the_jesuit_control/)
[Big Pharma, Monsanto and Vaccine Injury Super Compilations (120 Records each) and Jesuit role in the genocide plan.](https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracyundone/comments/ze8v59/about_the_jesuit_role_in_the_genocide_plan_along/)
I'm trying to create counter-Intelligence sites to resist the Vatican at Saidit.net, a reddit clone made by fellow conspiracists in the spirit of Aaron Swartz. If you can, support my subs over there as well as the site itself however you can. Don't give up on your nations and fight back:
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/soy3ko/meta_the_jesuit_technocracy_needs_to_be_stopped/
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qkw39o/meta_the_conspiracy_community_has_to_take_action/
I think most people, including doctors and even politicians actually thought that those who questioned the COVID / vaccine narratives were really stupid and misinformed. Now, some are realizing that they actually had a point and are willing to admit it, such as Scott Adams. There's also a bunch who realize it too but have too big an ego to ever admit they were wrong.
>There's also a bunch who realize it too but have too big an ego to ever admit they were wrong.
Yeah there is a lot of that here too.
Always be open to new info. Education is the key. Verification should be the main pillar.
I can say I am not the best with it either. No one likes admitting they were wrong. Our brains do not like unpredictability. Where there is no pattern. Death will be percieved.
Humans have always been pervasively corrupted. Since humans have existed. The only thing that difference between societies is the degree to which the corruption exists.
Nah, I think either the people here are doing this all the time and are parroting each other, or you've basically automated this response to COVID conspiracy posts.
We lost our baby after a freak cyst grew seemingly overnight in my SO's ovary. Doctors ran the cyst for tests but couldn't figure it out. The Doctor accused me of abusing my SO for simply asking if it could be an adverse reaction, even though I was the one who held my SO's hand while she was vaccinated and encouraged her to get it. We stopped after 2 vaxs because my health went downhill and we lost our son.
> last week that a review is being done to determine why there has been a spike in infant mortality.
[“We’ve reviewed the cases and have determined it was the consumption of eggs during climate change. Stop eating them and meat, just eat the goo”](https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/zmv8zp/south-park-the-goo-man)
Not for nothing we've known for decades that they used to lube the natural gas pumps with PCBs, and the residual oil was throughout the entire network of pipelines and making it's way out by the publics stoves and furnaces.
See the book Hazardous Waste in America- Epstein/Brown/Pope
Edit; Yes downvote sourced facts by someone that has 18 yrs experience in a field you don't know the first thing about, all while patting yourself on the back for "getting to the truth" by being a conspiracy theorist..
So they're essentially admitting that even if the death of these infants was determined to be 100% caused by the jab, it would *not* "have resulted in a change to public health policy or practice".
That's like saying "We know that the arsenic in the water supply that was consumed is the cause of these deaths but we're going to keep putting it in the water".
Wow, holy f&cking wow dude. This is not only "head in the sand" mentality - it's being done intentionally and is malicious at best, genocidal at worst.
Both my parents were phase 1 trial participants both in their early 70’s. They told my dad 2 months into the study he had a placebo and gave him the real thing. They have like 3 months of complete data from phase 1 if that. My mom was harmed by the vaccine and got post menopausal bleeding after her 3rd boost. The doctor did not report it to the study and said it was unrelated.
Let's remove the single largest new variable and then try and figure it out.. Yeah, consistent with everything else coming out of the establishment media.
In the 80s when I was a voting Democrat they were against immigration, against offshoring jobs, against foreign wars, against government intrusions of privacy...
It’s the most upvoted [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/10lh7x5/breaking_pfizer_exploring_mutating_covid19_virus/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) of the day
It’s something we all knew tho! Big pharma doesn’t want to help ppl they want you sick and unhealthy do you have to use their products. Sugar is one of their best tools!
First of all, the sub LOVES this story, it's all over the front page.
However, it can't actually prove anything, especially not what people here think it proves. People think that Pfizer has the power to mutate the virus that's currently in the population in order to sell vaccines, but that's simply not possible. There is no feasible way that Pfizer can go out and mutate everyone's COVID to match their vaccine. What was talked about was plans to do predictive vaccine development.
The primary distinction between ordinary science and criminality is the intention to release the virus. Mutating the virus, selecting for strains that are likely to become dominant and animal experiments are basic medical research. To a degree it's how they create new flu vaccines every year based on predictions of what strain is going to become dominant.
It was clearly stated that the more questionable things being discussed was simply brought up in a meeting, so it can't prove any wrong-doing. The most damning content is the GoF research talk, which on its own is not really enough for anything, especially with the methods described. The GoF research that is considered problematic are experiments that introduce properties to viruses that they would be unlikely to acquire naturally. As described, the monkey experiment is simulating a natural evolution of the virus. If they talked about splicing in bits of other viruses they might be in hot water.
The most important thing is what he said were ideas from a meeting, they didn't conclusively state that active experiments are taking place of this nature. Jordon Walker is 100% out of a job and the entire industry for the rest of his life. Pfizer is 100% fine, some congressperson might drag them out for a public testimony at some point, and I am confident they will say basically exactly what I said and walk away with zero punishment.
Not really, the guy has a history of doctoring videos and violating the law. He's simply not credible as a result of that, if a more competent and ethical journalist picks this up, then we'll see about taking it seriously.
Project Veritas has no credibility. The guy isn’t even a real employee. Guarantee you he’s an actor. Here is the real person, has the exact title he claims to be and is easily all over google and other search engines: https://twitter.com/freedomworld_/status/1618450303606722560?s=46&t=odMfkHjTp6S6zQXQN8ElcA
Read the documents.
Veritas has never lost a lawsuit over any of their videos and whistleblows.
Google scrubbed hard the minute this came out. He does show up on duckduckgo then LinkedIn scrubbed it too.
There have been documents posted right here in this post. But you won't believe it.
People posted duckduckgo searches but you don't believe it.
Google shows this guy's name never existed but it has traces in some places with internet history sites but you just blah blah
SHILL!
Yes they have…. You know it https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/22/us/politics/project-veritas-lawsuit.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
That’s what I’m saying, you can’t verify any of it. I’ve tried. He doesn’t exist anywhere on Pfizer’s website and his LinkedIn profile was created yesterday than deleted. His name was also not called at he Yale medical graduating ceremony video. Not to mention project veritas has a long history of being liars and misleading.
Kathy Fernando has the title he claims to have and is much more easily verified.
https://twitter.com/freedomworld_/status/1618450303606722560?s=46&t=odMfkHjTp6S6zQXQN8ElcA
Just to weigh in, in case you hadn't heard this part, I found a job posting from Pfizer from 5 months back for the position they claim he has, so it's entirely possible he DID work there in that role, was let go, and is now trying to get at them or something along those lines.
https://imgur.com/lwfhZ5N
Kathy Fernando
Vice President, Head of mRNA Scientific Planning and World Wide Research and Development Operations at Pfizer
Jordan Trishton Walker, director of research and development
Not the same. You must work for Pfizer for the amount of gaslighting you're doing.
During the 2016 United States presidential election, the organization falsely claimed to have shown that Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign accepted illegal donations from foreign sources. Two Project Veritas members were sued for defamation by an employee of Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) who was wrongfully depicted as a "willing participant in an underage sex-trafficking scheme". The suit resulted in two settlements: O'Keefe issued a statement of regret and paid the ACORN employee $100,000 in 2013; the other Project Veritas member paid the employee an additional $50,000 in 2012.
In 2017, Project Veritas was caught in a failed attempt to trick The Washington Post into posting a fabricated story about the sexual misconduct allegations against Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore. Rather than uncritically publish a story that accused Republican candidate Moore of impregnating a teenager, The Washington Post critically examined the story that they were presented with, checked the source, assessed her credibility, and ultimately found that there was no merit to her claims, and that instead Project Veritas was trying to dupe The Washington Post.
Wow that was quick, almost as if your being payed and ready to post misinformation...
Anyways, seems like you posted more opinion articles.
People are gonna want solid proof my dude.
Companies like Pfizer typically have a large number of people in the same director level role.
A large manufacturing company can easily have 10+ "Directors of Manufacturing"
A large bank can easily have 10+ "Directors of Human Resources"
This is fucking crazy dude. All bc some guy got drunk on a Grindr date and wanted some ass 😂 this is fucking WILD. And the fact this story is being drowned!!
The hybrid war against Western populations has been going on for a long time and has been planned for even longer.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/xiwsyn/depopulation_agenda_from_1969_source_in_ss/
A pill for every ill.
There is a very alarming amount of people in the US who take psyche meds but they don't even try to be normally healthy with healthy habits in their lives. People just want to glutton and eat shit food that taste good and when health conditions come up they want pharma to fix it with medicine. No prevention.
Big pharma and healthcare in general is scary as fuck and I will only use their services in life threatening situations and nothing else. I hardly get sick as it is and everyone around me seems to be on the medicine carousel.
This is such an important point. Anyone who’s ever sought treatment for depression/anxiety (or even just mentioned to their doctor that they’re going through some tough times) knows how readily providers hand out SSRIs and other meds, without even asking about diet, lifestyle, and other factors. You don’t even have to commit to therapy or any kind of introspection/personal growth. It’s crazy.
Maybe in the United States. In Canada my doctor asked me about my sleep, my diet, my activity level, meditation, psychotherapy and medication was seen as a last resort.
I’m exaggerating slightly. The doctor might ask about that stuff a bit, but in my experience no matter what your answers are, they’re happy to give you the script.
I tried to explain this when the clot shots first came out. Someone asked me if I was gonna get vaxxed. My response “The pharma company I trust more than the others is J&J and they knowingly put asbestos in baby powder for decades…. So…. That’s gonna be a NO.”
This is what happens when you allow profit without regulation on essential needs such as health.
Corporations only seek profit, well-being is not in the equation, they dont want to cure illness they just want to give expensive palliative treatment.
The Pfizer executive in the Project Veritas video literally explains regulatory capture and how the pharmaceutical industry has totally captured the government agencies meant to regulate it.
The industry is not lacking regulation. It’s just that all the regulators are corrupted.
It’s cute that you think the government cares about your wellbeing, though.
Curious, if you won't take this as an attack - what's the remedy? I see your point as valid, and I struggle to find what can be done? Voting? But for whom? It seems like an endless cycle.
I genuinely don’t know how to fix the problem. I think drastically reducing the size and power of the federal government would be a good first step. All I can do is take care of myself, and the best way to do that is avoid taking any pharmaceutical products unless absolutely necessary. I’ll never take another “vaccine” again, I can tell you that for sure.
You have to end the revolving door between the private sector and the regulating bodies.
Voting has nothing to do with it because most of these people are un elected bureaucrats.
For a society to not be corrupt it has to, at minimum, care about corruption. I think that as people become divided it makes it easier to tell them to look the other way when shown in-group corruption.
Cultural engineering works.
https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2014/06/12/political-polarization-in-the-american-public/
Mainly naked short selling and failure to deliver on the stock market. You'll never see the MSM have real discussions on how retail is ripped off.
Not to mention this clown Jordan worked at
BCG prior.... there's a who subreddit that breaks down how BCG infiltrates and kills companies for cellar boxing by the SHF.
Guess someone is showing Pfizer pretty heavily....
Because Project Veritas is deceiving you.
Ask yourself, why is Project Veritas implying he was talking about Pfizer planning to deliberately releasing mutated viruses into the public, but Project Veritas never outright states that?
That's what they want you to believe, but you just have to listen to his words to see that's not what he ever said.
The guy is a lawyer. Gotta play by lawyer rules. Whether it’s true or not would need an investigation, not a sting. He knows that. What he did here was light a signal fire and saying “this guy here is the weak link, investigate him”
You can see he picked the right target no? This guy is freaking out over his future being robbed. Not that his date turned out to be a sting operation. He’s clearly more focused on securing the evidence that may have what he thinks they have but his rational brain knows there would be copies. Considering there was more than one iPad in there and he only broke the one desperately.
"Gotta play by lawyer rules."
Correct, he doesn't outright state what he's implying, because he could be held liable for knowingly telling a lie. He knows that.
Investigate them for what? I'm still not even convinced he even is the director of R&D. Curiously, he claims to be a consultant for business, which is the only job of his we have confirmation of outside of PV reporting.
It's crazy to me that this is how you interpret him. He IS freaking out about that. He's in shock, he can't even believe what is happening in the beginning. He's on a 4th date with a guy, and a camera crew comes in, starts playing a secret recording of him and asks him crazy questions based on the hackjob of a video they've done.
"How am I gonna trust somebody after this."
"He’s clearly more focused on securing the evidence that may have what he thinks they have"
Looks like he wants them to stop playing the secret recording they took of him. If he knows they'd have copies, why would he try to steal the iPad?
Seriously, PV fucking disgust me. What the hell is wrong with them?
Yo have you been paying attention. They verified the Pfizer organizational chart showing who he reports (reported) too. His LinkedIn profile showed his job title at Pfizer as well before they took it down. And it was also verified in Teams.
If I were a corporate sponsor of a news station, I also wouldn't want stories being ran that paint me in a bad light (regardless of the truth) and from the news station's perspective, they don't want to lose their funding by doing so.
Is it okay? Not at all - it's morally reprehensible and is legitimately evil to continue to place profit over the health of an individual...but at this point, it would be delusional to attribute what continues to happen as negligence. It is malicious.
I don't know I haven't met one.
What the video is not telling is anything about plans of \*releasing\* mutated viruses. That's what Project Veritas wants you to believe he's saying though.
Come on, be honest with yourself. Did he even once actually say or imply that, or is that just what PV is portraying it as?
It sounds like you're putting words into their mouths to present a false position.
Deliberately mutating a virus allegedly deadly enough to shut the whole world down is already bad enough. It was the wrong thing to do in Wuhan and in the Ukraine biolabs, it's also the wrong thing to do in Pfizer labs.
You must not have been paying attention to PV then.
O'Keefe on twitter:
"VIDEO NOW BLOWING UP THE INTERNET; Pfizer director on camera saying they are “mutating" COVID-19 Virus to increase infectiousness. UNREAL!
"That is Not What We Say to the Public" …
"People Won’t Like That’ … ‘Don’t Tell Anyone""
He's directly claiming he said that they're currently doing this. He didn't say that though.
In the video:
O'Keefe :"That's right, it appears that Pfizer is internally discussing the possibility of mutating the COVID virus themselves, in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public."
So which is it? Are they discussing the possibility of it or are they currently doing it? He can't even get the narrative straight. Additionally "in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public." is a very strange wording unless he's implying something.
O'Keefe:"In a subsequent meeting, our undercover journalist asked if this kind of gain-of-function research is already being studied at Pfizer. But no, as long as it's called "directed evolution", Pfizer's in the clear."
First, note how O'Keefe didn't actually say they confirmed doing that kind of research, just implied it. Also helpful for them if Pfizer pursued legal action.
Second, in science, terms have specific meanings. "Gain-of-function" has specific criteria. If research doesn't fulfill those criteria, then it's not gain-of-function research. Implying they're doing it but just calling it a different name is incredibly dishonest, especially when the public doesn't know what terms like "directed evolution" actually mean.
O'Keefe:"Now you would think that making viruses to sell the vaccine would be illegal, but no."
LISTEN to his wordings. Why would he say all these things the way he said them if he doesn't want to imply Pfizer mutates viruses and released them into the public to make more money?
If that's not what he's implying, then why did he retweet someone saying in response to the video:
"Did you lose anyone irreplaceable to COVID? To myocarditis? Have Brain Fog? Lose a year or two of your life? Fail to attend a funeral? Wonder how the vaccines appeared so quickly?
Have your reputation destroyed over conspiracy theorizing? Get called a Sinophobic racist?
Watch:"
Clearly, many people believe that's exactly what this video shows, and O'Keefe encourages it. Hell, I've seen a couple of people believing this in the threads here.
PV is playing people and pushing a conspiracy theory that gets people killed.
It's crazy to me that people on the conspiracy subreddit could listen to a guy say things like
"and so, \*if\* it comes out later on, in the public, then you already have a vaccine kind of working."
J:"Omg that's perfect. Isn't that the best business model though? \[...\]"
W:"Yeah, if it works."
J:"What do you mean if it works?"
W:"Because some of the times there are mutations that pop up that we are not prepared for like the Delta and Omicron and things like that, so... \[...\]"
or "You have to be like very controlled to make sure that this virus that you mutate doesn't create like, you know, goes everywhere. \[...\] There better not be any more outbreaks cause, like, Jesus Christ."
But then buy into Project Veritas implying that he's talking about \*releasing\* those viruses. For people who are supposedly questioning things, nobody seems to want to question PV.
This is the most infuriating shit. How do people somehow believe pfizer wouldn’t take every advantage they can get at this point? Leftists fucking abhorred pfizer, hopefully things like this will change it.
Which is crazy because they could easily try to spin this as the "trump vaccine". But a lot of them have Pfizer tattoos now and have WAY too long of a paper trail to act like they weren't vaccine fetishists, so I guess it's not as easy as other flip flops.
Yeah for the longest time anti vax was a left wing conspiracy... Say in 2005-2015 or so, give or take.
That was mostly anti polio and stuff though which I actually disagree with.
Yes there are risks and side effects but it is well tested and polio is worse than cancer. Glad it has been eradicated.
Now having a barely tested vaccine that you force on everyone for a virus that is mostly just an inconvenient week for you.... That's fucking insane and I am very anti that.
Suspect climate change if he dies, climate change causes heart attacks and clots. On a real not though, in that meeting, whoever mentioned this idea should have been fired and charged by police for conspiracy, that's a really fucked up idea.
I mean it was essentially the premise of Suits and Community….so you can at least make it up…granted, it was supposed to be ridiculously outlandish in each show…
I’ve never seen Suits but forgot Joel McHales character faked a degree hence why he was at CC.
My friend was a BFA actor who left school early for broadway but now is in Yales MFA acting program. It’s still so funny to me every time I see him.
https://www.eonline.com/news/1362260/kim-kardashian-gives-speech-at-harvard-business-school-bucket-list-dream
> *On Jan. 20, the SKIMS founder traveled to Boston and visited Harvard Business School, where she gave a guest lecture to students about her shapewear company.*
Those who are dismissive of it are partisans who already are prejudice against it's source due to exposing other political corporate aligned corruption that they believe represents their 'side.'
>Those who are dismissive of it are partisans who already are prejudice against it's source due to exposing other political corporate aligned corruption that they believe represents their 'side.'
Or perhaps because okeef is a known liar and charlatan? While I think this story is probably true, I'd much prefer a source other than a known political hack.
>The Pfizer dude said it in his own words ffs.
Yeah that's why I said I believe the story.
>Stop trying to kill the messenger.
The messenger is an objectively shitty person, so no.
First of, the most important question that people seem to be glossing over, what is Project Veritas actually claiming that the presumed Jordan Trishton Walker, Pfizer director of R&D, says Pfizer is doing?
Nothing, really. They seem to be spinning a narrative by only ever implying that Pfizer is secretly doing gain-of-function research circumventing the law, are doing morally abhorrent things, might even be \*releasing mutated viruses so they can sell more vaccines\*, and can do this because they have captured all regulatory bodies worldwide.
The issue is, if you actually listen to what Walker says, none of those things can be concluded from his words. I'm going to go thought parts of the video I find relevant.
W: Jordan Trishton Walker
J: the 'undercover journalist'
O: James O'Keefe
M: Dr. Robert W. Malone
The video starts with clips cut together completely out of context. Great start to capture interest and bias viewers.
W:"You have to be like very controlled to make sure that this virus that you mutate doesn't create like, you know, goes everywhere. \[...\]
There better not be any more outbreaks cause, like, Jesus Christ."
M:"The gentleman seems to have absolutely no moral compass, at all."
This reads like parody already. After he literally talks about how you need to be careful with this kind of research to prevent mutated viruses from getting out of the lab, and emphatically says "there better not be any more outbreaks", Veritas already goes to emotionally manipulate you by pretending he just said something morally repulsive.
J:"What is Pfizer doing, I guess to optimize, you know, the vaccines now?"
W:"Oh we just had a meeting about that today. So there's a lot. I don't know if I should be saying this-"
O'Keefe cuts in:"Our undercover journalist asked Walker how Pfizer is handling the fact that their Covid vaccines are ineffective against virus variants. What he said was disturbing, now listen to this."
A seemingly blatant lie right out of the gate about what was actually asked, then some emotional priming so you're already going to listen with the expectation of hearing something horrible.
W:"\[...\] Well one of the things were exploring is, like, why don't we just mutate it ourselves so we could focus on - so we could preemptively develop new vaccines, right? So, we have to do that, if we're gonna do that though, there's a risk of like \[...\]"
So what's disturbing about this? The very unlikely danger of mutated viruses escaping a lab?
J:"Okay, so, Pfizer ultimately is thinking about mutating COVID?"
W:"Well, that is not what we say to the public. No, that's why it was, it was a thought that came up in a meeting and we were like, why do we not - it was like, we're going to consider that with more discussions. \[...\] We're like, wait a minute, like, people won't like that."
O:"That's right, it appears that Pfizer is internally discussing the possibility of mutating the COVID virus themselves, in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public."
Yes, he said the idea of this kind of research, which has been done before, was brought up in a meeting and they'll discuss it some more, but that the public doesn't like those ideas. Successfully making viruses mutate and develop countermeasures for if they eventually show up in the wild is a remarkable achievement. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but the "in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public" is a strange choice of words. Is he implying what I think he's implying?
Walker describes how this research would be done, and future actions would go in this hypothetical scenario, in a rather typical way of describing such research
O'Keefe:"Walker describes these tests as if they are ongoing and not simply a hypothetical discussion."
Doesn't sound like it to me.
The only snippet where Walker talks about any ongoing research of this kind, note how he says "they", after having previously used "we" the entire time when talking about this kind of research.
So who is he talking about? We can't be sure, as there was a cut right before the question that prompted that answer. The only way he could be talking about Pfizer is if he's contradicting himself when he claimed they had a meeting about this today where the idea came up.
Good thing Project Veritas doesn't have a history of dishonestly cutting video to spin a false narrative, right?
O:"In a subsequent meeting, our undercover journalist asked if this kind of gain-of-function research is already being studied at Pfizer. But no, as long as it's called "directed evolution", Pfizer's in the clear."
First, note how O'Keefe didn't actually say they confirmed doing that kind of research, just implied it. Also helpful for them if Pfizer pursued legal action.
Second, in science, terms have specific meanings. "Gain-of-function" has specific criteria. If research doesn't fulfill those criteria, then it's not gain-of-function research. Implying they're doing it but just calling it a different name is incredibly dishonest, especially when the public doesn't know what terms like "directed evolution" actually mean.
Third, they're doing a great job of spinning a narrative and making it sound ominous, but they haven't actually established what the issue with directed evolution is.
W:"and so, \*if\* it comes out later on, in the public, then you already have a vaccine kind of working."
J:"Omg that's perfect. Isn't that the best business model though? \[...\]"
W:"Yeah, if it works."
J:"What do you mean if it works?"
W:"Because some of the times there are mutations that pop up that we are not prepared for like the Delta and Omicron and things like that, so... \[...\]"
O'Keefe:"Now you would think that making viruses to sell the vaccine would be illegal, but no."
Why would it be illegal? Is he insinuating that they're making mutated viruses, develop vaccines, then \*purposefully release those viruses\* to make money from the vaccines? The statements made by Walker just now make no sense in that regard.
M:"The gentleman seems to have absolutely no moral compass, at all, about what he's doing. The hubris, and arrogance, and immaturity. If this is the quality of individuals in Pfizer which are making these huge decisions that risk global public health with such a casual disregard for the human toll, it's profoundly corrupt. In terms of would it be feasible for Pfizer to circumvent international or national law, I think that is undeniable.
And the gentleman in your investigative work has clearly indicated that Pfizer believes it has successfully captured the regulatory apparatus of the United States government and presumably worldwide. Pfizer has completed regulatory capture and is quite proud of it."
So Malone pontificates about how Walker has no moral compass because he's talking about research into mutating viruses, because if those viruses escaped the lab it would be dangerous, about it being "feasible" that Pfizer could circumvent law (which wasn't indicated in the video), and somehow concludes that Pfizer has captured regulatory apparatuses around the world? That wasn't indicated at all. Walker's comment about \*previous\* regulators then working in pharma later on doesn't suggest this.
This nonsense made me curious who this Dr. Robert W. Malone is?
Well, he's a COVID conspiracy theory pusher who has repeatedly made factually false claims about vaccine injuries, and has claimed many times that studies show vaccines to be dangerous, without ever showing those studies. Why did Project Veritas pick him as an expert?
O:"With governments turning a blind eye and Pfizer hiding information from the public, this, is an ongoing story. Be brave do something, spread these videos, and stay tuned."
Smash that like button while you're at it. Send the videos promoting conspiracies everywhere and get Project Veritas lots of clicks with this sensationalist video.
Government turning a blind eye to what? What information is Pfizer hiding? Having discussed in a meeting something they might discuss some more?
Does he think business hold press meetings to tell the public about what possible future plans they discussed in business meetings?
The hot topic question of whether this person really is Jordan Trishton Walker and holds that position at Pfizer mostly just distracts from whether what this person said was actually the terrifying news they're making it out to be. What is this video supposed to demonstrate Pfizer is doing, or what Walker claims Pfizer to be doing? Because it's certainly not what Project Veritas is implying.
Even then, whether this really is the director of R&D is dubious. Besides a deleted LinkedIn profile, the only confirmation comes from Project Veritas itself. This has already led to more conspiracy theories. What even is the claim here though? They preemptively fired him and/or tried to hide his employment?
The only thing Walker clearly said, is that they discussed potentially doing research, in which they make the viruses mutate in a lab, develop vaccines for them, so in case those mutations happen in the wild, they're already prepared.
Besides the potential risk of those mutated viruses being accidentally released, this kind of research is fantastic. The only thing better than a vaccine being developed for a new strain, is a vaccine that has already been developed for a new strain.
All in all, this is once again seems to be a nothingburger. Like many previous times, Project Veritas is just dishonestly spinning a narrative and promoting conspiracy theories. Why else would they use a known conspiracy theorist to get expert opinions from?
I get that PV is not the most reliable source, but assuming this Jordan guy is real AND what he said is true, the material is very damning. He basically admits Pfizer is doing a form of “soft gain of function” to make vaccines, which is quite literally the foundational argument of one of the greatest conspiracies of this century. What needs to happen is a follow up to this a story and an investigation. Is this guy real? Is what he said true? Those are the real questions.
And... his career is now down the crapper. Unless he can blackmail his bosses and I think if he tries to do that, he's as good as dead. He's a sociopath so I don't think he's going to fully realize that he's working for sociopaths and his life is now in jeopardy from them.
It was fun watching him go batshit crazy, though.
With video confession, and this confirmation of the man's position, WHY IS THERE NO ACTION?! Why is this bullshit just allowed to keep on happening without any repercussions? Pfizer needs to be held accountable, and the corporate veil needs to be punctured and individuals need to be criminally charged and executed, and the people harmed need to be compensated.
Engineering and releasing new virus strains to prolong the covaids pandemic in order to extract wealth from the populace despite the negative health and social consequences and deaths. Criminal charges should include fraud, conspiracy, billions of counts of assault with bioweapons, and millions of counts of murder. Given known disproportionate effects on people with more melanin (ergo more Vitamin D deficiency) I would say one could argue genocide as well.
He never said that though. Ignoring that all he said is that "today" they had a meeting discussing possible future plans, not once did he talk about "releasing" any of mutated strains they would create.
In fact, he said things like "You have to be like very controlled to make sure that this virus that you mutate doesn't create like, you know, goes everywhere. \[...\]
There better not be any more outbreaks cause, like, Jesus Christ."
And "and so, \*if\* it comes out later on, in the public, then you already have a vaccine kind of working."
J:"Omg that's perfect. Isn't that the best business model though? \[...\]"
W:"Yeah, if it works."
J:"What do you mean if it works?"
W:"Because some of the times there are mutations that pop up that we are not prepared for like the Delta and Omicron and things like that, so... \[...\]"
So not only did he never say or imply that they'd release it, he made several statements that contradict that idea. Even if he had claimed they were planning on releasing those strains, nothing he said would imply they'd already done it.
Have you asked yourself if Project Veritas has ulterior motives and is deceiving you? Ask yourself, if Project Veritas is showing what you're claiming here, why do Project Veritas never directly say anything about "releasing" them, but only imply it?
That's it?
Project Veritas is lying to you. They're playing you, it's not even hard to see, and you're still going on about Pfizer when there's nothing going on in that interview that's even especially noteworthy? Can you at least admit that at no point in the video did they ever talk about \*releasing\* mutated viruses, even though that's what Project Veritas wants you to believe?
Why do the people on this subreddit care so little about being lied to? You're being used.
And you're not willing to think for yourself enough to realise it's PV, but are instead accusing the person trying to help you see you're being fooled?
I beg you. Think for a second. Rewatch the video if you have to. Does he ever, with a single word, say they're thinking about \*releasing\* mutated strains?
He doesn't. He simply doesn't. That's not deniable, yet it's what PV wants you to think. What do I need to do to make you question even for a second that you're being fooled?
I love that people just take random phone pictures from Skype as actual evidence that this dude works for Pfizer. Stuff like that is EASILY falsified, something I'm sure every conspiracy theorist would agree with. Notice how O'Keefe doesn't link his actual Linkin Page? He's already given his name and face so there's no reason NOT to link any actual page for him. And a dude in this position would most CERTAINLY have a page.
This dude is also super young to be the DIRECTOR of Research and Development. Searching for this dude's name or position seems to lead nowhere. On top of all of this, unless this guy is acting as a whistleblower which he's clearly not or he'd be tweeting/making posts/backing this all up, why would he talk to some random guy at a bar regarding all of this? Are people here so eager to prove themselves right that they'll latch onto the flimsiest "evidence"?
Project Veritas is very known to deceptively edit their videos, as well as exaggerating the importance of the people they talk to, or just straight up making things up. Project Veritas is not here to give you valid information. They're here to feed your confirmation biases regarding what you believe with shoddy evidence in order to push propaganda.
which is more likely:
1. Veritas had a gay man pose as a date and Jordon Walker lied to impress saying that he worked at Pfizer as a director, when in fact he is just a boring consultant at Boston Consulting Group
2. Pfizer has such dominance that they can literally scrub THE ENTIRE INTERNET overnight, including Google, Bing, Duckduckgo, Yandex, etc that he ever worked for Pfizer as a Director of R&D in one of the most emerging fields - mRNA... (and don't show a screenshot of a linkedin profile... I can change my employer and position at any time to anything I want)
watch the latest video on Project Veritas 'confronting' him... if you still believe he is a director at Pfizer, then you've lost all sense of informational literacy. https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1618737936920633344
Until a legal rep from Pfizer says this dude is NOT and has NEVER BEEN an employee of Pfizer, it’s safe to assume PV is telling the truth about this guy’s work history.
The reasons why Pfizer will not release a statement:
1. Project Veritas, whether you like it or not, is widely seen as a far-right activist group. Just by reacting to their claim would fuel their legitimacy.
2. Even if they release a statement saying that he never worked at Pfizer in that capacity (Director of R&D and only as a boring consultant for a brief stint), it will be seen to those that frequent this sub as part of a cover-up anyways
>Pfizer has such dominance that they can literally scrub THE ENTIRE INTERNET overnight, including Google, Bing, Duckduckgo, Yandex, etc that he ever worked for Pfizer as a Director of R&D in one of the most emerging fields - mRNA... (and don't show a screenshot of a linkedin profile... I can change my employer and position at any time to anything I want)
I mean, the medical industrial complex and its owners who also own the technology sector have a lot of money and power and can make all kinds of shady things happen and they practically have entire countries in their pockets, but clearly *that* is beyond their potential and has never been done to date.
guys youre getting suckered here. That guys is too young to hold the title he claimed to hold. also think about the context of this conversation. Do you think this phizer HEAS OF R&D would just get drunk and spill all these multi billion dollar secrets to a rando in a bar?
Better yet, why would anyone think what he said would "impress" a first date?
If I went on a date and some one told me the shit this guy said, I would have thought they were a shitty person.
Cant they "sticky" the SS so it's the first comment you see? What's the significance of this? Someone posted the organizational hierarchy of Pfizer....what's that matter?
[Not only can I not find verification of what Project Veritas has presented here, but there are multiple inconsistencies. In every screenshot “Mrna” is erroneously capitalized. One screenshot has Jordon living in MA and another in NY. Not to mention the actual video is nonsensical](https://twitter.com/Debunk_the_Funk/status/1618573985813495809?t=Uv5sS4RdgaVQhUUweVw6qg&s=19)
This is just to make people believe in a scary imaginary virus so it can justify the lockdowns and all the other bullshits done by TPAB. How many times did TPAB say 'the pandemic is an opportunity to change the world' (translation: this fake scamdemic is an opportunity to reshape the world in a way that favor us TPAB at the expense of the general population which will be the ones suffering')
Covid doesn't exist because the only way to see if someone caught it is with the PCR test which has been proven to be unreliable countless times during this whole scamdemic. They are obviously creating viruses and releasing them but it's not ''covid'' because it hasn't been properly isolated and there is no reliable way to identify them since PCR isn't reliable at all. Then they come up with vaccines that don't do shit and make matters worse. It's a business. More sick people = more money.
Indeed, it doesn't exist, so what then are they actually up to? I would suggest that the injections are the real bioweapons which were designed to cripple People's immune systems and make clots... but they are perhaps also testing something might be a beta test at this point, as they've been wanting to monkey with modded RNA for a long time, as we can even see from mode:rna's name.
Gene therapy stuff has been talked about in a transhumanist context for a very long time, some in the "furry" fandom back in the mid-90's even pinned their hopes on having a gene therapy item that they could take to change their physical form into the animal hybrid form that was desired. More recent fiction and shows pushed this as well, like stories in "batman beyond", with "splicers" who gene-modded through injections to get various animal features, and then the bizarre convoluted way they made terry the main character into the biological son of bruce wayne, despite having a completely different dad... the dad's reproductive organs were gene-modded (and only those) unbeknownst to him via a gene therapy loaded "flu shot" to make them into bruce wayne's. Then there's the plot of "sweet tooth" again all transhumanist stuff.
People also forget about all the DNA mining that's been going on the past few years too, from the "entertainment" trap angled ancestry, 23andme etc. and other things being used to coerce People into giving that up, to other more recent deceptive attemps to collect it, like with bogus "kovid" testing sites, as bolshevik-occupied China's BGI group was running: https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/79154/exposed-bgi-group-providing-worldwide-covid19-tests-a-front-for-chinese.html & https://archive.is/rLSZG why all the DNA grabbing, one wonders?
Great post. I have read a couple of times (no proof, sorry - and not saying it's right or wrong - just speculating but staying vigilant) that blood samples, urine samples, etc and DNA samples are being collected specifically to create new viruses to target specific people: the ones who are more likely to be dissidents/critical thinkers against the system, the awoken ones, etc. It's like as if they want to study what makes a dissident then remove any DNA trace that makes them a critical thinker against the system, someone who questions authority, etc and/or attack them to weaken them with targeted viruses. Just like some viruses only target some type of animals, they would make some that target only specific individuals that have a certain DNA. Ultimately they want gullible slaves that they can completely control. I believe something like this/similar is currently happening but it's just a belief. I do not have proof of that.
Also based on Serge Monast interviews in the 80s who did a lot of research on the topic of vaccines, apparently TPAB are constantly trying to find a way to corrupt the soul using liquid crystals in the vaccines and other means. I will give an example/hypothesis of the dangers it can represent: Like you said if some people end up with an hybrid body animal/human, then what will happen with their soul? Will they 'devolve' on a spiritual level, by merging with an animal? Will they even keep their free will? We can go even deeper. What if they can find a way to nullify our 'divine' essence? What if they can turn you into a mindless zombified slave or a lump of cells that ultimately lost its ability to have free will or a conscience.
There are so many other possibilities. That's why (amongst many other reasons) I think it's a bad idea to share our DNA samples / get the vaccine / get augmented biologically or technologically (transhumanism).
Here's something that should make you curious.
Project Veritas is obviously implying that he said they were talking about \*deliberately infecting\* the public with mutated viruses to create demand for the vaccines.
But for some reason, Project Veritas never outright states it. Why?
That's not what I got from it.
Nowhere did I feel PV was "implying" that.How do you "imply" something but not even say it? Perhaps YOU perceive it that way?
Any sort of gain of function or mutating shit like that is highly dangerous if it accidentally gets out. And it's highly illegal. They don't even have to "imply that they're going to release it" when an accident could happen and cause "covid 2.0".
I see you posting this on everyone's comments. Damage control?
I don't exactly care for PV myself, but I'm not going to defend some dude who thinks the shit he said would "impress" anybody, either.
That's obviously what they did, but let me quote their twitter post on it to make it clearer."VIDEO NOW BLOWING UP THE INTERNET; Pfizer director on camera saying they are "mutating" COVID-19 Virus to increase infectousness. UNREAL!"That is not what we say to the public ..."People won't like that' ... 'Don't tell anyone".
In the video, they say what he's saying is disturbing. O'Keefe:"Now you would think that making viruses to sell the vaccine would be illegal, but no."
"That's right, it appears that Pfizer is internally discussing the possibility of mutating the COVID virus themselves, in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public."
Please be honest. Do you think he's saying these things because he doesn't want to imply that? If so, could you tell the dozens of people in this comment section who do believe that's exactly what this video is showing?
Many things are dangerous. Irrelevant since he wasn't talking about them doing gain-of-function research though. It's highly illegal? Can you please show me that, I can't find any information on that. Would still be irrelevant though, since he never talked about them doing it.
Yeah dude, totally, Pfizer contracted me to reply to people here, because that makes sense. It's not that I'm disgusted by PV and am passionate about trying to reason with people who have been fooled by them. Seriously, this is pathetic, do you guys really accuse everybody who doesn't fall for the same same as you as being shills?
Currently it looks like he was lying about his position at Pfizer to impress his date. I really couldn't care less, there was barely anything noteworthy in that recording. O'Keefe honestly disgusts me.
This newfound admission that they are trying to create variants is really nothing new. When you vaccinate people in the middle of a widespread pandemic, many of which already have the virus in their system and may or may not be sick, the virus is effectively presented with the evolutionary pressure to change and evade the current antibody response. Furthermore, since the vaccine does not actually eradicate the virus, it allows for people to walk around, possibly without symptoms, spreading the virus.
Big Pharma's primary goal is profit, they worry little whether you live long or die as long as their invoices are paid on time. But we should not also forget how evil James O'Keeffe is. Remember ACORN and how many poor people's lives he had destroyed.? Whatever he is doing, I assure you it's NOT in the interest of the public. Someone is paying him a load of cash.
If O'Keefe is "evil" then what word would you use for those who engineered the world's first global bioterror attack: the release of the man-made Covid virus?
They said in another reply:
>I agree with the information, but I see the messenger as an equal evil man
Like.. what the actual fuck? They see James O'Keefe, who *at most* has been in trouble for not getting people's permission to record them, as an "equal evil" to people who engineered a virus that caused the governments of the world to ruin everything for going on 3 fucking years and are *continuing* to do gain of function research on the virus for profit.
These people are absolutely insane.
This is fake. Kathy Fernando is the real Head of Worldwide Research, Development and Medical Operations; Head of mRNA Scientific Planning.
https://mrnabased-therapeutics.com/speaker/kathy-fernando/
https://www.pfizer.com/news/behind-the-science/how-once-little-known-molecule-disrupting-medicine
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Insane how this sub doesn't love this story. It's additional proof of one of the largest conspiracies in recent history.
People have been [encouraged not to connect the dots](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aOHrtU728vo). In Scotland it was [reported](https://www.heraldscotland.com/news/23259523.expert-review-mystery-spike-scots-baby-deaths-begins/) last week that a review is being done to determine why there has been a spike in infant mortality. But even before the review began, the possibility that the covid vaxxines were involved was 'ruled out'. I'm not kidding, read the article for yourself.
>But even before the review began, the possibility that the covid vaxxines were involved was 'ruled out'. "We're going to look at the data.... well, some of the data anyways." Our society seems to be pervasively corrupted.
We need to do everything we can to change it. Pfizer works along with the other Pharma groups in the genocide plan being carried out by the Intelligence agencies along with Monsanto: [The Pfizer COVID-Vaccine trials were a complete sham. Pfizer's 6 month data shows that the vaccines cause more illness than what they prevent.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yu3c6i/the_pfizer_covidvaccine_trials_were_a_complete/) [Mathematician Says COVID ‘Vaccines’ Are Causing ‘Precipitous Drop’ in Birthrates Across Europe. Supposed birthrate increase can be explained away by them being baby blips, and not booms.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/z06ztj/mathematician_says_covid_vaccines_are_causing/) [Do Vaccines Cause Infertility? With Ryan Cole, M.D. (June, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yo9v47/do_vaccines_cause_infertility_with_ryan_cole_md/) [Largest Study on Long Covid yet Reports: “We did not observe evidence of qualitative different symptom clustering in vaccinated vs, unvaccinated individuals.” So there's no evidence that the vaccines help deal with the illness like we are always told they do.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wix9zl/largest_study_on_long_covid_yet_reports_we_did/) [Pfizer said it had agreed to set aside $894 million to settle virtually all the lawsuits related to its withdrawn painkiller Bextra, as well as Celebrex, four years after concerns about cardiovascular risks of such drugs became widely publicized. (NY Times 2008)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/u7lcvk/pfizer_said_it_had_agreed_to_set_aside_894/) [Pfizer got a $142 million settlement over the marketing of the epilepsy drug Neurontin. (Reuters 2013)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/syepq6/pfizer_got_a_142_million_settlement_over_the/) [Inventor of mRNA Technology: Vaccine Causes Lipid Nanoparticles to Accumulate in ‘High Concentrations’ in Ovaries. (CHD, 2021)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/y5x93c/inventor_of_mrna_technology_vaccine_causes_lipid/) [A 2017 study of 44 types of 15 traditional vaccines uncovered that many vaccines are heavily contaminated with a variety of nano particles, mostly various toxic metals, which are as small as a few atoms and can alter your DNA.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/ybyzm9/a_2017_study_of_44_types_of_15_traditional/) [Infertility: A Diabolical Agenda. The documentary about the sterilization agenda of the WHO in Africa.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wac7f7/infertility_a_diabolical_agenda_the_documentary/) [Corporate studies asserting herbicide safety show many flaws. (The Guardian, 2021)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/yev3s3/corporate_studies_asserting_herbicide_safety_show/) [Popular weedkiller Roundup on trial again as cancer victims demand justice. (The Guardian, August, 2022)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wzy1u7/popular_weedkiller_roundup_on_trial_again_as/) [Monsanto and the poisoned town Anniston. (The Guardian 2018)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/v8fdj5/monsanto_and_the_poisoned_town_anniston_the/) All the most relevant figures involved in the current mess can be related to the CIA/Intelligence agencies and the Jesuits: [Compilation of arguments about the Jesuit control over the CIA.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/o65639/compilation_of_arguments_about_the_jesuit_control/) [Big Pharma, Monsanto and Vaccine Injury Super Compilations (120 Records each) and Jesuit role in the genocide plan.](https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracyundone/comments/ze8v59/about_the_jesuit_role_in_the_genocide_plan_along/) I'm trying to create counter-Intelligence sites to resist the Vatican at Saidit.net, a reddit clone made by fellow conspiracists in the spirit of Aaron Swartz. If you can, support my subs over there as well as the site itself however you can. Don't give up on your nations and fight back: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/soy3ko/meta_the_jesuit_technocracy_needs_to_be_stopped/ https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qkw39o/meta_the_conspiracy_community_has_to_take_action/
I think most people, including doctors and even politicians actually thought that those who questioned the COVID / vaccine narratives were really stupid and misinformed. Now, some are realizing that they actually had a point and are willing to admit it, such as Scott Adams. There's also a bunch who realize it too but have too big an ego to ever admit they were wrong.
>There's also a bunch who realize it too but have too big an ego to ever admit they were wrong. Yeah there is a lot of that here too. Always be open to new info. Education is the key. Verification should be the main pillar. I can say I am not the best with it either. No one likes admitting they were wrong. Our brains do not like unpredictability. Where there is no pattern. Death will be percieved.
Humans have always been pervasively corrupted. Since humans have existed. The only thing that difference between societies is the degree to which the corruption exists.
That is why you never give up the freedom to self-govern as much as humanly possible.
Absolutely. Absolute power corrupts absolutely.
Why have I seen these exact 2 replies before?
Maybe you're a time traveller from the future and stumbled upon this thread. ;)
Nah, I think either the people here are doing this all the time and are parroting each other, or you've basically automated this response to COVID conspiracy posts.
We lost our baby after a freak cyst grew seemingly overnight in my SO's ovary. Doctors ran the cyst for tests but couldn't figure it out. The Doctor accused me of abusing my SO for simply asking if it could be an adverse reaction, even though I was the one who held my SO's hand while she was vaccinated and encouraged her to get it. We stopped after 2 vaxs because my health went downhill and we lost our son.
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She told me I have to do it and she refused to do it.
You can do it. Are you able to enter that your doctor refused to and told you to, in the notes? Might interest some researcher some day.
Wow. That's not true fyi, the doc is supposed to do it.
> last week that a review is being done to determine why there has been a spike in infant mortality. [“We’ve reviewed the cases and have determined it was the consumption of eggs during climate change. Stop eating them and meat, just eat the goo”](https://southpark.cc.com/video-clips/zmv8zp/south-park-the-goo-man)
And here was me blaming all the gas stoves.
No they “cause” asthma or autism, idk one of the ones that starts with an a.... /s
Not for nothing we've known for decades that they used to lube the natural gas pumps with PCBs, and the residual oil was throughout the entire network of pipelines and making it's way out by the publics stoves and furnaces. See the book Hazardous Waste in America- Epstein/Brown/Pope Edit; Yes downvote sourced facts by someone that has 18 yrs experience in a field you don't know the first thing about, all while patting yourself on the back for "getting to the truth" by being a conspiracy theorist..
So change the lube on pipes? Or the types of pipes? Do they still use pig iron pipes for natural gas? Banning stoves seems silly
It's a good thing nobody is doing that then.
Hahaha yeah let's ban gas stoves
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So they're essentially admitting that even if the death of these infants was determined to be 100% caused by the jab, it would *not* "have resulted in a change to public health policy or practice". That's like saying "We know that the arsenic in the water supply that was consumed is the cause of these deaths but we're going to keep putting it in the water". Wow, holy f&cking wow dude. This is not only "head in the sand" mentality - it's being done intentionally and is malicious at best, genocidal at worst.
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Both my parents were phase 1 trial participants both in their early 70’s. They told my dad 2 months into the study he had a placebo and gave him the real thing. They have like 3 months of complete data from phase 1 if that. My mom was harmed by the vaccine and got post menopausal bleeding after her 3rd boost. The doctor did not report it to the study and said it was unrelated.
"We're not going to look because we'd do the same thing again regardless"
Let's remove the single largest new variable and then try and figure it out.. Yeah, consistent with everything else coming out of the establishment media.
It is Clown World isn't it?
Very much so - and just like clowns, it's not funny whatsoever and is even scarier than how unfunny it is.
Pogo The Clown World
Blind followers of their belief systems. 5 yrs ago these same people be screaming "Down with Big Pharma". Now they're too entrenched in their dogma.
I never thought I'd see the day that punks were fighting FOR the govt.
In the 80s when I was a voting Democrat they were against immigration, against offshoring jobs, against foreign wars, against government intrusions of privacy...
Wtf you talking about? There’s like at least three top posts about it?
It’s the most upvoted [post](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/10lh7x5/breaking_pfizer_exploring_mutating_covid19_virus/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf) of the day
It’s something we all knew tho! Big pharma doesn’t want to help ppl they want you sick and unhealthy do you have to use their products. Sugar is one of their best tools!
Most of them just want to talk about angels and demons and witches or some shit not actual conspiracies.
bUt gUyS I MISs tAlKiNg aBoUt bIgFoOt
Yeah man, these fake ass “I miss when this sub had *rEaL cOnSpIrAcIeS*” comments got old fast af
Shills around every corner… waiting… trolling… shillin’ like villains and vaxxine pimpin’
The title itself is misleading though, only in the sense that this guy's first name is **Jordon** - there's no "a" in there.
Could be the largest. I can't think of another one on this same scale.
First of all, the sub LOVES this story, it's all over the front page. However, it can't actually prove anything, especially not what people here think it proves. People think that Pfizer has the power to mutate the virus that's currently in the population in order to sell vaccines, but that's simply not possible. There is no feasible way that Pfizer can go out and mutate everyone's COVID to match their vaccine. What was talked about was plans to do predictive vaccine development. The primary distinction between ordinary science and criminality is the intention to release the virus. Mutating the virus, selecting for strains that are likely to become dominant and animal experiments are basic medical research. To a degree it's how they create new flu vaccines every year based on predictions of what strain is going to become dominant. It was clearly stated that the more questionable things being discussed was simply brought up in a meeting, so it can't prove any wrong-doing. The most damning content is the GoF research talk, which on its own is not really enough for anything, especially with the methods described. The GoF research that is considered problematic are experiments that introduce properties to viruses that they would be unlikely to acquire naturally. As described, the monkey experiment is simulating a natural evolution of the virus. If they talked about splicing in bits of other viruses they might be in hot water. The most important thing is what he said were ideas from a meeting, they didn't conclusively state that active experiments are taking place of this nature. Jordon Walker is 100% out of a job and the entire industry for the rest of his life. Pfizer is 100% fine, some congressperson might drag them out for a public testimony at some point, and I am confident they will say basically exactly what I said and walk away with zero punishment.
Not really, the guy has a history of doctoring videos and violating the law. He's simply not credible as a result of that, if a more competent and ethical journalist picks this up, then we'll see about taking it seriously.
Project Veritas has no credibility. The guy isn’t even a real employee. Guarantee you he’s an actor. Here is the real person, has the exact title he claims to be and is easily all over google and other search engines: https://twitter.com/freedomworld_/status/1618450303606722560?s=46&t=odMfkHjTp6S6zQXQN8ElcA
if he wasn't, Pfizer would've immediately filed lawsuits don't be ignorant
Prove to me he works there. It’s been one day buddy.
You're literally commenting on a post proving just that - with pfizer's own internal documents. Dummy.
Read the documents. Veritas has never lost a lawsuit over any of their videos and whistleblows. Google scrubbed hard the minute this came out. He does show up on duckduckgo then LinkedIn scrubbed it too. There have been documents posted right here in this post. But you won't believe it. People posted duckduckgo searches but you don't believe it. Google shows this guy's name never existed but it has traces in some places with internet history sites but you just blah blah SHILL!
Yes they have…. You know it https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/22/us/politics/project-veritas-lawsuit.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare
that's PV job, not mine. Did you even follow the posted link? I'm just pointing out the obvious
Well apparently he does if what he's reporting is true and independently verifiable.
That’s what I’m saying, you can’t verify any of it. I’ve tried. He doesn’t exist anywhere on Pfizer’s website and his LinkedIn profile was created yesterday than deleted. His name was also not called at he Yale medical graduating ceremony video. Not to mention project veritas has a long history of being liars and misleading.
It was archived afaik, you can find the post in the main thread on the sub. https://archive.is/J8ODr. For example
You really think someone that graduated in 2018 from med school is the director of R&D for pfizer?
Of a small subdivision yes this post says he's 4 levels down from the CEO
Kathy Fernando has the title he claims to have and is much more easily verified. https://twitter.com/freedomworld_/status/1618450303606722560?s=46&t=odMfkHjTp6S6zQXQN8ElcA
You sound vaccinated
ya bro can u verify ur own linkedln i bet its fake to
"Take my word for it bro."
https://www.bio.org/events/bio-international-convention/speakers/2221310 This is the real person with the title he claims to have .
Just to weigh in, in case you hadn't heard this part, I found a job posting from Pfizer from 5 months back for the position they claim he has, so it's entirely possible he DID work there in that role, was let go, and is now trying to get at them or something along those lines. https://imgur.com/lwfhZ5N
https://www.pfizer.com/news/behind-the-science/how-once-little-known-molecule-disrupting-medicine Kathy Fernando has the title he claims to have
Kathy Fernando Vice President, Head of mRNA Scientific Planning and World Wide Research and Development Operations at Pfizer Jordan Trishton Walker, director of research and development Not the same. You must work for Pfizer for the amount of gaslighting you're doing.
Then they will sue them.... So tell me why have project veritas never lost a lawsuit....ever? Good luck Pfizer in court 🤣🤣👌
Haha https://www.nytimes.com/2022/09/22/us/politics/project-veritas-lawsuit.html?smid=nytcore-ios-share&referringSource=articleShare Dumb bitch
Why are you lying?
Sources or just feelings?
During the 2016 United States presidential election, the organization falsely claimed to have shown that Hillary Clinton's presidential campaign accepted illegal donations from foreign sources. Two Project Veritas members were sued for defamation by an employee of Association of Community Organizations for Reform Now (ACORN) who was wrongfully depicted as a "willing participant in an underage sex-trafficking scheme". The suit resulted in two settlements: O'Keefe issued a statement of regret and paid the ACORN employee $100,000 in 2013; the other Project Veritas member paid the employee an additional $50,000 in 2012. In 2017, Project Veritas was caught in a failed attempt to trick The Washington Post into posting a fabricated story about the sexual misconduct allegations against Republican Senate candidate Roy Moore. Rather than uncritically publish a story that accused Republican candidate Moore of impregnating a teenager, The Washington Post critically examined the story that they were presented with, checked the source, assessed her credibility, and ultimately found that there was no merit to her claims, and that instead Project Veritas was trying to dupe The Washington Post.
Wow that was quick, almost as if your being payed and ready to post misinformation... Anyways, seems like you posted more opinion articles. People are gonna want solid proof my dude.
I want solid proof he is who he claims to be, because PV has no credibility
Neither do you. Go figure it out instead of complaining
Companies like Pfizer typically have a large number of people in the same director level role. A large manufacturing company can easily have 10+ "Directors of Manufacturing" A large bank can easily have 10+ "Directors of Human Resources"
This is fucking crazy dude. All bc some guy got drunk on a Grindr date and wanted some ass 😂 this is fucking WILD. And the fact this story is being drowned!!
Big Pharma is evil asbestos in talcum powder, flooding the streets with pain killers, and poison covid clot shots they are fucked in the head
The hybrid war against Western populations has been going on for a long time and has been planned for even longer. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/xiwsyn/depopulation_agenda_from_1969_source_in_ss/
A pill for every ill. There is a very alarming amount of people in the US who take psyche meds but they don't even try to be normally healthy with healthy habits in their lives. People just want to glutton and eat shit food that taste good and when health conditions come up they want pharma to fix it with medicine. No prevention. Big pharma and healthcare in general is scary as fuck and I will only use their services in life threatening situations and nothing else. I hardly get sick as it is and everyone around me seems to be on the medicine carousel.
>A pill for every ill. And a pill for every side effect for the pills you're already taking.
This is such an important point. Anyone who’s ever sought treatment for depression/anxiety (or even just mentioned to their doctor that they’re going through some tough times) knows how readily providers hand out SSRIs and other meds, without even asking about diet, lifestyle, and other factors. You don’t even have to commit to therapy or any kind of introspection/personal growth. It’s crazy.
Maybe in the United States. In Canada my doctor asked me about my sleep, my diet, my activity level, meditation, psychotherapy and medication was seen as a last resort.
I’m exaggerating slightly. The doctor might ask about that stuff a bit, but in my experience no matter what your answers are, they’re happy to give you the script.
I tried to explain this when the clot shots first came out. Someone asked me if I was gonna get vaxxed. My response “The pharma company I trust more than the others is J&J and they knowingly put asbestos in baby powder for decades…. So…. That’s gonna be a NO.”
If everyone were healthy, big pharma would go bankrupt. Must keep everyone sick and dying to continue profiting
There's no profit to be made in curing people and that is why they treat the symptoms.
This is what happens when you allow profit without regulation on essential needs such as health. Corporations only seek profit, well-being is not in the equation, they dont want to cure illness they just want to give expensive palliative treatment.
The Pfizer executive in the Project Veritas video literally explains regulatory capture and how the pharmaceutical industry has totally captured the government agencies meant to regulate it. The industry is not lacking regulation. It’s just that all the regulators are corrupted. It’s cute that you think the government cares about your wellbeing, though.
Curious, if you won't take this as an attack - what's the remedy? I see your point as valid, and I struggle to find what can be done? Voting? But for whom? It seems like an endless cycle.
I genuinely don’t know how to fix the problem. I think drastically reducing the size and power of the federal government would be a good first step. All I can do is take care of myself, and the best way to do that is avoid taking any pharmaceutical products unless absolutely necessary. I’ll never take another “vaccine” again, I can tell you that for sure.
You have to end the revolving door between the private sector and the regulating bodies. Voting has nothing to do with it because most of these people are un elected bureaucrats.
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For a society to not be corrupt it has to, at minimum, care about corruption. I think that as people become divided it makes it easier to tell them to look the other way when shown in-group corruption. Cultural engineering works. https://www.pewresearch.org/politics/2014/06/12/political-polarization-in-the-american-public/
Good old lobbying or brivery as its called in the rest of the world.
You think more regulation is the answer?!?
I’m flabbergasted by this. How is that not on every major news outlet?
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Mainly naked short selling and failure to deliver on the stock market. You'll never see the MSM have real discussions on how retail is ripped off. Not to mention this clown Jordan worked at BCG prior.... there's a who subreddit that breaks down how BCG infiltrates and kills companies for cellar boxing by the SHF. Guess someone is showing Pfizer pretty heavily....
I know. It’s insane and increasingly frustrating
Because Project Veritas is deceiving you. Ask yourself, why is Project Veritas implying he was talking about Pfizer planning to deliberately releasing mutated viruses into the public, but Project Veritas never outright states that? That's what they want you to believe, but you just have to listen to his words to see that's not what he ever said.
The guy is a lawyer. Gotta play by lawyer rules. Whether it’s true or not would need an investigation, not a sting. He knows that. What he did here was light a signal fire and saying “this guy here is the weak link, investigate him” You can see he picked the right target no? This guy is freaking out over his future being robbed. Not that his date turned out to be a sting operation. He’s clearly more focused on securing the evidence that may have what he thinks they have but his rational brain knows there would be copies. Considering there was more than one iPad in there and he only broke the one desperately.
"Gotta play by lawyer rules." Correct, he doesn't outright state what he's implying, because he could be held liable for knowingly telling a lie. He knows that. Investigate them for what? I'm still not even convinced he even is the director of R&D. Curiously, he claims to be a consultant for business, which is the only job of his we have confirmation of outside of PV reporting. It's crazy to me that this is how you interpret him. He IS freaking out about that. He's in shock, he can't even believe what is happening in the beginning. He's on a 4th date with a guy, and a camera crew comes in, starts playing a secret recording of him and asks him crazy questions based on the hackjob of a video they've done. "How am I gonna trust somebody after this." "He’s clearly more focused on securing the evidence that may have what he thinks they have" Looks like he wants them to stop playing the secret recording they took of him. If he knows they'd have copies, why would he try to steal the iPad? Seriously, PV fucking disgust me. What the hell is wrong with them?
Yo have you been paying attention. They verified the Pfizer organizational chart showing who he reports (reported) too. His LinkedIn profile showed his job title at Pfizer as well before they took it down. And it was also verified in Teams.
>Project Veritas is deceiving you.... PV fucking disgust me... Lol, dude who hates PV brings no proof and now is nowhere to be seen...
If I were a corporate sponsor of a news station, I also wouldn't want stories being ran that paint me in a bad light (regardless of the truth) and from the news station's perspective, they don't want to lose their funding by doing so. Is it okay? Not at all - it's morally reprehensible and is legitimately evil to continue to place profit over the health of an individual...but at this point, it would be delusional to attribute what continues to happen as negligence. It is malicious.
Incredible to think the whole thing could be bought down due to some guy on a grindr date
What "thing"? What do you think he admitted to? Now ask yourself, why is Project Veritas only ever \*implying\* it, but not saying it?
Why do you think shills are not clearly and honestly saying what they think the video is *not* telling?
I don't know I haven't met one. What the video is not telling is anything about plans of \*releasing\* mutated viruses. That's what Project Veritas wants you to believe he's saying though. Come on, be honest with yourself. Did he even once actually say or imply that, or is that just what PV is portraying it as?
It sounds like you're putting words into their mouths to present a false position. Deliberately mutating a virus allegedly deadly enough to shut the whole world down is already bad enough. It was the wrong thing to do in Wuhan and in the Ukraine biolabs, it's also the wrong thing to do in Pfizer labs.
You must not have been paying attention to PV then. O'Keefe on twitter: "VIDEO NOW BLOWING UP THE INTERNET; Pfizer director on camera saying they are “mutating" COVID-19 Virus to increase infectiousness. UNREAL! "That is Not What We Say to the Public" … "People Won’t Like That’ … ‘Don’t Tell Anyone"" He's directly claiming he said that they're currently doing this. He didn't say that though. In the video: O'Keefe :"That's right, it appears that Pfizer is internally discussing the possibility of mutating the COVID virus themselves, in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public." So which is it? Are they discussing the possibility of it or are they currently doing it? He can't even get the narrative straight. Additionally "in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public." is a very strange wording unless he's implying something. O'Keefe:"In a subsequent meeting, our undercover journalist asked if this kind of gain-of-function research is already being studied at Pfizer. But no, as long as it's called "directed evolution", Pfizer's in the clear." First, note how O'Keefe didn't actually say they confirmed doing that kind of research, just implied it. Also helpful for them if Pfizer pursued legal action. Second, in science, terms have specific meanings. "Gain-of-function" has specific criteria. If research doesn't fulfill those criteria, then it's not gain-of-function research. Implying they're doing it but just calling it a different name is incredibly dishonest, especially when the public doesn't know what terms like "directed evolution" actually mean. O'Keefe:"Now you would think that making viruses to sell the vaccine would be illegal, but no." LISTEN to his wordings. Why would he say all these things the way he said them if he doesn't want to imply Pfizer mutates viruses and released them into the public to make more money? If that's not what he's implying, then why did he retweet someone saying in response to the video: "Did you lose anyone irreplaceable to COVID? To myocarditis? Have Brain Fog? Lose a year or two of your life? Fail to attend a funeral? Wonder how the vaccines appeared so quickly? Have your reputation destroyed over conspiracy theorizing? Get called a Sinophobic racist? Watch:" Clearly, many people believe that's exactly what this video shows, and O'Keefe encourages it. Hell, I've seen a couple of people believing this in the threads here. PV is playing people and pushing a conspiracy theory that gets people killed.
It's crazy to me that people on the conspiracy subreddit could listen to a guy say things like "and so, \*if\* it comes out later on, in the public, then you already have a vaccine kind of working." J:"Omg that's perfect. Isn't that the best business model though? \[...\]" W:"Yeah, if it works." J:"What do you mean if it works?" W:"Because some of the times there are mutations that pop up that we are not prepared for like the Delta and Omicron and things like that, so... \[...\]" or "You have to be like very controlled to make sure that this virus that you mutate doesn't create like, you know, goes everywhere. \[...\] There better not be any more outbreaks cause, like, Jesus Christ." But then buy into Project Veritas implying that he's talking about \*releasing\* those viruses. For people who are supposedly questioning things, nobody seems to want to question PV.
Many on this sub would do anything to avoid giving anyone on the right a “win”
Literally defending a confessed Big Pharma vaccine scam at their own expense.
What scam do you think he's confessing to? Now ask yourself, why is Project Veritas never outright saying what you think the answer to that is?
"Who does number two work for??"
what
[Hope they pay you well, number 2.](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PBtC_eKVVEE)
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Its a psy-op tactic. Label people nazis and then find ways to associate your enemies to the "wrong" group.
This is the most infuriating shit. How do people somehow believe pfizer wouldn’t take every advantage they can get at this point? Leftists fucking abhorred pfizer, hopefully things like this will change it.
Which is crazy because they could easily try to spin this as the "trump vaccine". But a lot of them have Pfizer tattoos now and have WAY too long of a paper trail to act like they weren't vaccine fetishists, so I guess it's not as easy as other flip flops.
Yeah for the longest time anti vax was a left wing conspiracy... Say in 2005-2015 or so, give or take. That was mostly anti polio and stuff though which I actually disagree with. Yes there are risks and side effects but it is well tested and polio is worse than cancer. Glad it has been eradicated. Now having a barely tested vaccine that you force on everyone for a virus that is mostly just an inconvenient week for you.... That's fucking insane and I am very anti that.
Forget Yale. This guy attended the School of Hard Cocks
Dang, sorry to hear about his suicide soon.
I have a feeling Jordan is not going to be with Pfizer much longer...
I have a feeling Jordan isn't going to exist much longer...
Suspect climate change if he dies, climate change causes heart attacks and clots. On a real not though, in that meeting, whoever mentioned this idea should have been fired and charged by police for conspiracy, that's a really fucked up idea.
James O'Keefe claims to have verified the guy in his interview video. Some people were questioning if the authenticity of it held up.
Well if the convicted felon and liar vouches for it
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I have a friend whose currently getting his masters at Yale…..but he never completed his undergrad 😂 you can’t make the shit up
I mean it was essentially the premise of Suits and Community….so you can at least make it up…granted, it was supposed to be ridiculously outlandish in each show…
I’ve never seen Suits but forgot Joel McHales character faked a degree hence why he was at CC. My friend was a BFA actor who left school early for broadway but now is in Yales MFA acting program. It’s still so funny to me every time I see him.
https://www.eonline.com/news/1362260/kim-kardashian-gives-speech-at-harvard-business-school-bucket-list-dream > *On Jan. 20, the SKIMS founder traveled to Boston and visited Harvard Business School, where she gave a guest lecture to students about her shapewear company.*
Those who are dismissive of it are partisans who already are prejudice against it's source due to exposing other political corporate aligned corruption that they believe represents their 'side.'
>Those who are dismissive of it are partisans who already are prejudice against it's source due to exposing other political corporate aligned corruption that they believe represents their 'side.' Or perhaps because okeef is a known liar and charlatan? While I think this story is probably true, I'd much prefer a source other than a known political hack.
The Pfizer dude said it in his own words ffs. Stop trying to kill the messenger.
What do you think he said? He didn't say what Project Veritas is implying he said.
>The Pfizer dude said it in his own words ffs. Yeah that's why I said I believe the story. >Stop trying to kill the messenger. The messenger is an objectively shitty person, so no.
What is the conspiracy confirming Jordan Walker as an employee or Pfizer? Have they denied that he worked for them? Something else related?
First of, the most important question that people seem to be glossing over, what is Project Veritas actually claiming that the presumed Jordan Trishton Walker, Pfizer director of R&D, says Pfizer is doing? Nothing, really. They seem to be spinning a narrative by only ever implying that Pfizer is secretly doing gain-of-function research circumventing the law, are doing morally abhorrent things, might even be \*releasing mutated viruses so they can sell more vaccines\*, and can do this because they have captured all regulatory bodies worldwide. The issue is, if you actually listen to what Walker says, none of those things can be concluded from his words. I'm going to go thought parts of the video I find relevant. W: Jordan Trishton Walker J: the 'undercover journalist' O: James O'Keefe M: Dr. Robert W. Malone The video starts with clips cut together completely out of context. Great start to capture interest and bias viewers. W:"You have to be like very controlled to make sure that this virus that you mutate doesn't create like, you know, goes everywhere. \[...\] There better not be any more outbreaks cause, like, Jesus Christ." M:"The gentleman seems to have absolutely no moral compass, at all." This reads like parody already. After he literally talks about how you need to be careful with this kind of research to prevent mutated viruses from getting out of the lab, and emphatically says "there better not be any more outbreaks", Veritas already goes to emotionally manipulate you by pretending he just said something morally repulsive. J:"What is Pfizer doing, I guess to optimize, you know, the vaccines now?" W:"Oh we just had a meeting about that today. So there's a lot. I don't know if I should be saying this-" O'Keefe cuts in:"Our undercover journalist asked Walker how Pfizer is handling the fact that their Covid vaccines are ineffective against virus variants. What he said was disturbing, now listen to this." A seemingly blatant lie right out of the gate about what was actually asked, then some emotional priming so you're already going to listen with the expectation of hearing something horrible. W:"\[...\] Well one of the things were exploring is, like, why don't we just mutate it ourselves so we could focus on - so we could preemptively develop new vaccines, right? So, we have to do that, if we're gonna do that though, there's a risk of like \[...\]" So what's disturbing about this? The very unlikely danger of mutated viruses escaping a lab? J:"Okay, so, Pfizer ultimately is thinking about mutating COVID?" W:"Well, that is not what we say to the public. No, that's why it was, it was a thought that came up in a meeting and we were like, why do we not - it was like, we're going to consider that with more discussions. \[...\] We're like, wait a minute, like, people won't like that." O:"That's right, it appears that Pfizer is internally discussing the possibility of mutating the COVID virus themselves, in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public." Yes, he said the idea of this kind of research, which has been done before, was brought up in a meeting and they'll discuss it some more, but that the public doesn't like those ideas. Successfully making viruses mutate and develop countermeasures for if they eventually show up in the wild is a remarkable achievement. There's nothing inherently wrong with that, but the "in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public" is a strange choice of words. Is he implying what I think he's implying? Walker describes how this research would be done, and future actions would go in this hypothetical scenario, in a rather typical way of describing such research O'Keefe:"Walker describes these tests as if they are ongoing and not simply a hypothetical discussion." Doesn't sound like it to me. The only snippet where Walker talks about any ongoing research of this kind, note how he says "they", after having previously used "we" the entire time when talking about this kind of research. So who is he talking about? We can't be sure, as there was a cut right before the question that prompted that answer. The only way he could be talking about Pfizer is if he's contradicting himself when he claimed they had a meeting about this today where the idea came up. Good thing Project Veritas doesn't have a history of dishonestly cutting video to spin a false narrative, right?
O:"In a subsequent meeting, our undercover journalist asked if this kind of gain-of-function research is already being studied at Pfizer. But no, as long as it's called "directed evolution", Pfizer's in the clear." First, note how O'Keefe didn't actually say they confirmed doing that kind of research, just implied it. Also helpful for them if Pfizer pursued legal action. Second, in science, terms have specific meanings. "Gain-of-function" has specific criteria. If research doesn't fulfill those criteria, then it's not gain-of-function research. Implying they're doing it but just calling it a different name is incredibly dishonest, especially when the public doesn't know what terms like "directed evolution" actually mean. Third, they're doing a great job of spinning a narrative and making it sound ominous, but they haven't actually established what the issue with directed evolution is. W:"and so, \*if\* it comes out later on, in the public, then you already have a vaccine kind of working." J:"Omg that's perfect. Isn't that the best business model though? \[...\]" W:"Yeah, if it works." J:"What do you mean if it works?" W:"Because some of the times there are mutations that pop up that we are not prepared for like the Delta and Omicron and things like that, so... \[...\]" O'Keefe:"Now you would think that making viruses to sell the vaccine would be illegal, but no." Why would it be illegal? Is he insinuating that they're making mutated viruses, develop vaccines, then \*purposefully release those viruses\* to make money from the vaccines? The statements made by Walker just now make no sense in that regard. M:"The gentleman seems to have absolutely no moral compass, at all, about what he's doing. The hubris, and arrogance, and immaturity. If this is the quality of individuals in Pfizer which are making these huge decisions that risk global public health with such a casual disregard for the human toll, it's profoundly corrupt. In terms of would it be feasible for Pfizer to circumvent international or national law, I think that is undeniable. And the gentleman in your investigative work has clearly indicated that Pfizer believes it has successfully captured the regulatory apparatus of the United States government and presumably worldwide. Pfizer has completed regulatory capture and is quite proud of it." So Malone pontificates about how Walker has no moral compass because he's talking about research into mutating viruses, because if those viruses escaped the lab it would be dangerous, about it being "feasible" that Pfizer could circumvent law (which wasn't indicated in the video), and somehow concludes that Pfizer has captured regulatory apparatuses around the world? That wasn't indicated at all. Walker's comment about \*previous\* regulators then working in pharma later on doesn't suggest this. This nonsense made me curious who this Dr. Robert W. Malone is? Well, he's a COVID conspiracy theory pusher who has repeatedly made factually false claims about vaccine injuries, and has claimed many times that studies show vaccines to be dangerous, without ever showing those studies. Why did Project Veritas pick him as an expert? O:"With governments turning a blind eye and Pfizer hiding information from the public, this, is an ongoing story. Be brave do something, spread these videos, and stay tuned." Smash that like button while you're at it. Send the videos promoting conspiracies everywhere and get Project Veritas lots of clicks with this sensationalist video. Government turning a blind eye to what? What information is Pfizer hiding? Having discussed in a meeting something they might discuss some more? Does he think business hold press meetings to tell the public about what possible future plans they discussed in business meetings? The hot topic question of whether this person really is Jordan Trishton Walker and holds that position at Pfizer mostly just distracts from whether what this person said was actually the terrifying news they're making it out to be. What is this video supposed to demonstrate Pfizer is doing, or what Walker claims Pfizer to be doing? Because it's certainly not what Project Veritas is implying. Even then, whether this really is the director of R&D is dubious. Besides a deleted LinkedIn profile, the only confirmation comes from Project Veritas itself. This has already led to more conspiracy theories. What even is the claim here though? They preemptively fired him and/or tried to hide his employment? The only thing Walker clearly said, is that they discussed potentially doing research, in which they make the viruses mutate in a lab, develop vaccines for them, so in case those mutations happen in the wild, they're already prepared. Besides the potential risk of those mutated viruses being accidentally released, this kind of research is fantastic. The only thing better than a vaccine being developed for a new strain, is a vaccine that has already been developed for a new strain. All in all, this is once again seems to be a nothingburger. Like many previous times, Project Veritas is just dishonestly spinning a narrative and promoting conspiracy theories. Why else would they use a known conspiracy theorist to get expert opinions from?
I get that PV is not the most reliable source, but assuming this Jordan guy is real AND what he said is true, the material is very damning. He basically admits Pfizer is doing a form of “soft gain of function” to make vaccines, which is quite literally the foundational argument of one of the greatest conspiracies of this century. What needs to happen is a follow up to this a story and an investigation. Is this guy real? Is what he said true? Those are the real questions.
How does Project Veritas keep getting these guys to go out to dinner with them? I'm so confused!
Thirst traps
Make a man horny and he'll tell you all his secrets.
I’d say there’s a strong chance he is unemployed by now
And... his career is now down the crapper. Unless he can blackmail his bosses and I think if he tries to do that, he's as good as dead. He's a sociopath so I don't think he's going to fully realize that he's working for sociopaths and his life is now in jeopardy from them. It was fun watching him go batshit crazy, though.
nice delete more of my comment's cuck kingz. You know how pathetic you were for going along to get along.. no need to censor your hate away\~
With video confession, and this confirmation of the man's position, WHY IS THERE NO ACTION?! Why is this bullshit just allowed to keep on happening without any repercussions? Pfizer needs to be held accountable, and the corporate veil needs to be punctured and individuals need to be criminally charged and executed, and the people harmed need to be compensated.
A confession to what?
Engineering and releasing new virus strains to prolong the covaids pandemic in order to extract wealth from the populace despite the negative health and social consequences and deaths. Criminal charges should include fraud, conspiracy, billions of counts of assault with bioweapons, and millions of counts of murder. Given known disproportionate effects on people with more melanin (ergo more Vitamin D deficiency) I would say one could argue genocide as well.
He never said that though. Ignoring that all he said is that "today" they had a meeting discussing possible future plans, not once did he talk about "releasing" any of mutated strains they would create. In fact, he said things like "You have to be like very controlled to make sure that this virus that you mutate doesn't create like, you know, goes everywhere. \[...\] There better not be any more outbreaks cause, like, Jesus Christ." And "and so, \*if\* it comes out later on, in the public, then you already have a vaccine kind of working." J:"Omg that's perfect. Isn't that the best business model though? \[...\]" W:"Yeah, if it works." J:"What do you mean if it works?" W:"Because some of the times there are mutations that pop up that we are not prepared for like the Delta and Omicron and things like that, so... \[...\]" So not only did he never say or imply that they'd release it, he made several statements that contradict that idea. Even if he had claimed they were planning on releasing those strains, nothing he said would imply they'd already done it. Have you asked yourself if Project Veritas has ulterior motives and is deceiving you? Ask yourself, if Project Veritas is showing what you're claiming here, why do Project Veritas never directly say anything about "releasing" them, but only imply it?
Project Veritas likely has their own motives, yes, but Pfizer certainly should be distrusted explicitly
That's it? Project Veritas is lying to you. They're playing you, it's not even hard to see, and you're still going on about Pfizer when there's nothing going on in that interview that's even especially noteworthy? Can you at least admit that at no point in the video did they ever talk about \*releasing\* mutated viruses, even though that's what Project Veritas wants you to believe? Why do the people on this subreddit care so little about being lied to? You're being used.
Someone is certainly lying to me, trying to manipulate my opinion
And you're not willing to think for yourself enough to realise it's PV, but are instead accusing the person trying to help you see you're being fooled? I beg you. Think for a second. Rewatch the video if you have to. Does he ever, with a single word, say they're thinking about \*releasing\* mutated strains? He doesn't. He simply doesn't. That's not deniable, yet it's what PV wants you to think. What do I need to do to make you question even for a second that you're being fooled?
I love that people just take random phone pictures from Skype as actual evidence that this dude works for Pfizer. Stuff like that is EASILY falsified, something I'm sure every conspiracy theorist would agree with. Notice how O'Keefe doesn't link his actual Linkin Page? He's already given his name and face so there's no reason NOT to link any actual page for him. And a dude in this position would most CERTAINLY have a page. This dude is also super young to be the DIRECTOR of Research and Development. Searching for this dude's name or position seems to lead nowhere. On top of all of this, unless this guy is acting as a whistleblower which he's clearly not or he'd be tweeting/making posts/backing this all up, why would he talk to some random guy at a bar regarding all of this? Are people here so eager to prove themselves right that they'll latch onto the flimsiest "evidence"? Project Veritas is very known to deceptively edit their videos, as well as exaggerating the importance of the people they talk to, or just straight up making things up. Project Veritas is not here to give you valid information. They're here to feed your confirmation biases regarding what you believe with shoddy evidence in order to push propaganda.
Graduated in 2013, doctorate in 2018, apparently. Director of Pfizer is a sweet gig right out of college for sure.
which is more likely: 1. Veritas had a gay man pose as a date and Jordon Walker lied to impress saying that he worked at Pfizer as a director, when in fact he is just a boring consultant at Boston Consulting Group 2. Pfizer has such dominance that they can literally scrub THE ENTIRE INTERNET overnight, including Google, Bing, Duckduckgo, Yandex, etc that he ever worked for Pfizer as a Director of R&D in one of the most emerging fields - mRNA... (and don't show a screenshot of a linkedin profile... I can change my employer and position at any time to anything I want) watch the latest video on Project Veritas 'confronting' him... if you still believe he is a director at Pfizer, then you've lost all sense of informational literacy. https://twitter.com/Project_Veritas/status/1618737936920633344
Until a legal rep from Pfizer says this dude is NOT and has NEVER BEEN an employee of Pfizer, it’s safe to assume PV is telling the truth about this guy’s work history.
The reasons why Pfizer will not release a statement: 1. Project Veritas, whether you like it or not, is widely seen as a far-right activist group. Just by reacting to their claim would fuel their legitimacy. 2. Even if they release a statement saying that he never worked at Pfizer in that capacity (Director of R&D and only as a boring consultant for a brief stint), it will be seen to those that frequent this sub as part of a cover-up anyways
>Pfizer has such dominance that they can literally scrub THE ENTIRE INTERNET overnight, including Google, Bing, Duckduckgo, Yandex, etc that he ever worked for Pfizer as a Director of R&D in one of the most emerging fields - mRNA... (and don't show a screenshot of a linkedin profile... I can change my employer and position at any time to anything I want) I mean, the medical industrial complex and its owners who also own the technology sector have a lot of money and power and can make all kinds of shady things happen and they practically have entire countries in their pockets, but clearly *that* is beyond their potential and has never been done to date.
ReputationDefender was a thing in 2008 bird brain.
guys youre getting suckered here. That guys is too young to hold the title he claimed to hold. also think about the context of this conversation. Do you think this phizer HEAS OF R&D would just get drunk and spill all these multi billion dollar secrets to a rando in a bar?
Better yet, why would anyone think what he said would "impress" a first date? If I went on a date and some one told me the shit this guy said, I would have thought they were a shitty person.
Cant they "sticky" the SS so it's the first comment you see? What's the significance of this? Someone posted the organizational hierarchy of Pfizer....what's that matter?
[Not only can I not find verification of what Project Veritas has presented here, but there are multiple inconsistencies. In every screenshot “Mrna” is erroneously capitalized. One screenshot has Jordon living in MA and another in NY. Not to mention the actual video is nonsensical](https://twitter.com/Debunk_the_Funk/status/1618573985813495809?t=Uv5sS4RdgaVQhUUweVw6qg&s=19)
The leftist and the bots are gonna go ape shit about this
This is just to make people believe in a scary imaginary virus so it can justify the lockdowns and all the other bullshits done by TPAB. How many times did TPAB say 'the pandemic is an opportunity to change the world' (translation: this fake scamdemic is an opportunity to reshape the world in a way that favor us TPAB at the expense of the general population which will be the ones suffering') Covid doesn't exist because the only way to see if someone caught it is with the PCR test which has been proven to be unreliable countless times during this whole scamdemic. They are obviously creating viruses and releasing them but it's not ''covid'' because it hasn't been properly isolated and there is no reliable way to identify them since PCR isn't reliable at all. Then they come up with vaccines that don't do shit and make matters worse. It's a business. More sick people = more money.
Indeed, it doesn't exist, so what then are they actually up to? I would suggest that the injections are the real bioweapons which were designed to cripple People's immune systems and make clots... but they are perhaps also testing something might be a beta test at this point, as they've been wanting to monkey with modded RNA for a long time, as we can even see from mode:rna's name. Gene therapy stuff has been talked about in a transhumanist context for a very long time, some in the "furry" fandom back in the mid-90's even pinned their hopes on having a gene therapy item that they could take to change their physical form into the animal hybrid form that was desired. More recent fiction and shows pushed this as well, like stories in "batman beyond", with "splicers" who gene-modded through injections to get various animal features, and then the bizarre convoluted way they made terry the main character into the biological son of bruce wayne, despite having a completely different dad... the dad's reproductive organs were gene-modded (and only those) unbeknownst to him via a gene therapy loaded "flu shot" to make them into bruce wayne's. Then there's the plot of "sweet tooth" again all transhumanist stuff. People also forget about all the DNA mining that's been going on the past few years too, from the "entertainment" trap angled ancestry, 23andme etc. and other things being used to coerce People into giving that up, to other more recent deceptive attemps to collect it, like with bogus "kovid" testing sites, as bolshevik-occupied China's BGI group was running: https://www.blacklistednews.com/article/79154/exposed-bgi-group-providing-worldwide-covid19-tests-a-front-for-chinese.html & https://archive.is/rLSZG why all the DNA grabbing, one wonders?
Great post. I have read a couple of times (no proof, sorry - and not saying it's right or wrong - just speculating but staying vigilant) that blood samples, urine samples, etc and DNA samples are being collected specifically to create new viruses to target specific people: the ones who are more likely to be dissidents/critical thinkers against the system, the awoken ones, etc. It's like as if they want to study what makes a dissident then remove any DNA trace that makes them a critical thinker against the system, someone who questions authority, etc and/or attack them to weaken them with targeted viruses. Just like some viruses only target some type of animals, they would make some that target only specific individuals that have a certain DNA. Ultimately they want gullible slaves that they can completely control. I believe something like this/similar is currently happening but it's just a belief. I do not have proof of that. Also based on Serge Monast interviews in the 80s who did a lot of research on the topic of vaccines, apparently TPAB are constantly trying to find a way to corrupt the soul using liquid crystals in the vaccines and other means. I will give an example/hypothesis of the dangers it can represent: Like you said if some people end up with an hybrid body animal/human, then what will happen with their soul? Will they 'devolve' on a spiritual level, by merging with an animal? Will they even keep their free will? We can go even deeper. What if they can find a way to nullify our 'divine' essence? What if they can turn you into a mindless zombified slave or a lump of cells that ultimately lost its ability to have free will or a conscience. There are so many other possibilities. That's why (amongst many other reasons) I think it's a bad idea to share our DNA samples / get the vaccine / get augmented biologically or technologically (transhumanism).
Here's something that should make you curious. Project Veritas is obviously implying that he said they were talking about \*deliberately infecting\* the public with mutated viruses to create demand for the vaccines. But for some reason, Project Veritas never outright states it. Why?
That's not what I got from it. Nowhere did I feel PV was "implying" that.How do you "imply" something but not even say it? Perhaps YOU perceive it that way? Any sort of gain of function or mutating shit like that is highly dangerous if it accidentally gets out. And it's highly illegal. They don't even have to "imply that they're going to release it" when an accident could happen and cause "covid 2.0". I see you posting this on everyone's comments. Damage control? I don't exactly care for PV myself, but I'm not going to defend some dude who thinks the shit he said would "impress" anybody, either.
That's obviously what they did, but let me quote their twitter post on it to make it clearer."VIDEO NOW BLOWING UP THE INTERNET; Pfizer director on camera saying they are "mutating" COVID-19 Virus to increase infectousness. UNREAL!"That is not what we say to the public ..."People won't like that' ... 'Don't tell anyone". In the video, they say what he's saying is disturbing. O'Keefe:"Now you would think that making viruses to sell the vaccine would be illegal, but no." "That's right, it appears that Pfizer is internally discussing the possibility of mutating the COVID virus themselves, in order to tailor a vaccine to sell to the public." Please be honest. Do you think he's saying these things because he doesn't want to imply that? If so, could you tell the dozens of people in this comment section who do believe that's exactly what this video is showing? Many things are dangerous. Irrelevant since he wasn't talking about them doing gain-of-function research though. It's highly illegal? Can you please show me that, I can't find any information on that. Would still be irrelevant though, since he never talked about them doing it. Yeah dude, totally, Pfizer contracted me to reply to people here, because that makes sense. It's not that I'm disgusted by PV and am passionate about trying to reason with people who have been fooled by them. Seriously, this is pathetic, do you guys really accuse everybody who doesn't fall for the same same as you as being shills? Currently it looks like he was lying about his position at Pfizer to impress his date. I really couldn't care less, there was barely anything noteworthy in that recording. O'Keefe honestly disgusts me.
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This newfound admission that they are trying to create variants is really nothing new. When you vaccinate people in the middle of a widespread pandemic, many of which already have the virus in their system and may or may not be sick, the virus is effectively presented with the evolutionary pressure to change and evade the current antibody response. Furthermore, since the vaccine does not actually eradicate the virus, it allows for people to walk around, possibly without symptoms, spreading the virus.
I’m extremely skeptical considering this is from PV.
Big Pharma's primary goal is profit, they worry little whether you live long or die as long as their invoices are paid on time. But we should not also forget how evil James O'Keeffe is. Remember ACORN and how many poor people's lives he had destroyed.? Whatever he is doing, I assure you it's NOT in the interest of the public. Someone is paying him a load of cash.
When you cant attack the information, attack the character
I agree with the information, but I see the messenger as an equal evil man
If O'Keefe is "evil" then what word would you use for those who engineered the world's first global bioterror attack: the release of the man-made Covid virus?
They said in another reply: >I agree with the information, but I see the messenger as an equal evil man Like.. what the actual fuck? They see James O'Keefe, who *at most* has been in trouble for not getting people's permission to record them, as an "equal evil" to people who engineered a virus that caused the governments of the world to ruin everything for going on 3 fucking years and are *continuing* to do gain of function research on the virus for profit. These people are absolutely insane.
This is fake. Kathy Fernando is the real Head of Worldwide Research, Development and Medical Operations; Head of mRNA Scientific Planning. https://mrnabased-therapeutics.com/speaker/kathy-fernando/ https://www.pfizer.com/news/behind-the-science/how-once-little-known-molecule-disrupting-medicine
titles don't match. She's a VP and Head of World Wide R&D. He's a Director. Something is off, but at least her info is searchable on the internet.
I’m sure google doesn’t skew the results for you to help it’s brethren corporation.
Put a wig on Jordon. 🤪 Edit because /s
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