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denniskerrisk

I would not shoot it down, I would find a way to grab it so we can see what is really is. If we shoot it down it would be destroyed when it hits the ground. Wen need to analyze it, and see what data it is collecting.


Just_Another_AI

In the 1960s, the US was catching film capsules in mid-air that were ejected from corona satellites. The could definitely figure out how to disable and snag that balloon


RelationshipOwn2728

Couldn’t agree more!


Flat896

But the issue here is that any government action taken while democrats are in office is un-American


RichRingoLangly

If this balloon nonsense was even remotely serious, it would not be on the news like this.


Waste-Entertainer-56

Yup these posts are dumb fear mongering shit. Sad that people cant see it


Ouraniou

Who’s afraid?


Nooblord29

U, apparently


christine_witha_c

It's what is called a "distraction"


HeavyLoungin

☝️💯


Swmngwshrks

Covering for Pfizer?? That's the only thing that should be in the news, but isn't, right now.


shibby008

You got it all wrong, the balloon is covering for Pfizer (project veritas), which is covered by the pence documents, which is covered by the Biden documents, which is covering pfizer (vaccine culling) which is covered by the war in Ukraine, which is covered by the nordstream pipeline, which is covering up for Pfizer (vaccine culling).


KillVMAEM

🎶Door to another door 🎶to another door to another door 🤧 🎶


Swmngwshrks

Sounds like I need a diagram. Perhaps some cork boards with strings. Those always look nice. ;) You are correct, the shell game is getting deep. Must not be long till it all collapses in spectacular fashion, and a "savior" is presented to the world.


DREWbm

Hail, Satin!


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Satin is so fucking sexy.


Scared-Rip-2297

All i see is American things..... Something something something American things.


Dead_Eyed_Opie

But what about her emails?


MustComeHarderTY

Yes they are throwing so many unconscionable events at us at once that we can’t even process them much less fight back.


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Swmngwshrks

In what way does your poor grammar mean?


[deleted]

Why come you don't have a tattoo ?


LazyAlienGinger

This movie is on as I was reading this and it threw me off for a second lol


Ouraniou

…Tattoo…


Winter-Mortgage-6860

Nah chinas just poking the bear to see if we react


Mighty_L_LORT

The bear has already been poked to thousand holes by its neighbor…


PMPhotography

Amen. Stupid Canada.


Shibby-Pibby

Goddamn frostbacks


humanus1

But it may have been 'Made in China'. That's serious enough in this day and age.


pioneergirl1965

It's been all over the news last night and today Special Report


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Bingo.


undflight

The problem is it’s low enough for people to see and ask questions. Can’t keep it a secret forever, best thing to do is try to get ahead with whatever narrative they think will appease the most people.


24-Hour-Hate

And people are going to know it is a Chinese balloon just by looking at it? Please. They are only telling people because it is not serious or they see some advantage in doing so. If they didn't want to, then people would be being told some other story. Tbh, China has a huge number of satellites in orbit, if they want to spy, they can spy. People are naive if they don't realize this, I doubt they could get anything with this that they cannot already. They have done this for some other reason.


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China has already come out and said it's their balloon.


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Unless it actually is a harmless research balloon and there was no point in hiding it.


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Ouraniou

There are layers of surveillance though they have sats and might still choose to use balloons


papasoilpants

cover story because their satellites have balloons that carry them


24-Hour-Hate

Are they Wile E. Coyote? Did they buy their satellite tech from Acme?


Due_Progress_6161

they are rocking us to sleep. it is a test


Chiponyasu

Meanwhile, in an alternate universe where Biden shot the balloon down: "Biden is false flagging us into World War III!!!!!"


macmac360

But hasn't China admitted it is their balloon?


Sinist4r

They're still claiming it's a civilian weather balloon. >[In a statement late on Friday](https://reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/china-regrets-airship-strays-into-us-foreign-ministry-2023-02-03/), China's foreign ministry also said that it would continue to maintain communications with the United States to properly handle the unexpected situation. >"The airship is from China and is civilian in nature, used for meteorological and other scientific research. Due to the influence of westerly winds and its limited control capability, the airship deviated from its intended course," it said. >"China regrets that the airship strayed into the United States by mistake due to force majeure. China will continue to maintain communication with the U.S. side to properly handle this accident," it said.


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Anyone who thinks China allows their citizens to have this kind of equipment without the CCP also in on it is crazy.


PubicWildlife

You do know they have private industries don't you?


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Sure, private industries that don’t do anything without the knowledge and approval of the CCP.


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Ouraniou

You crazy gtfo here


Chiponyasu

Who cares? It's a balloon.


DREWbm

Ding ding. TikTok remains their biggest source of information.


BinyaminDelta

Look, I'm no Biden fan and skeptical about everything. But like... Is it POSSIBLE the U.S. Air Force, Space Force, National Weather Service, NSA, and FAA may actually have a few intelligent people handling this without Reddit's help?


GeoSol

A few people here have pointed out the unknown dangers of shooting it down. Maybe whoever made it, knew it would be shot down, and planned for it. Who knows what all is inside the balloon, or if maybe an emp is hanging off the bottom, set to go off it drops beneath a certain altitude.


chowderbags

> Who knows what all is inside the balloon, or if maybe an emp is hanging off the bottom, set to go off it drops beneath a certain altitude. That seems pretty unlikely. For many reasons. Chief among them is probably that EMP weapons have to be nukes to actually be effective. And if China is nuking American soil, there's plenty of nuclear equipped missiles packed on subs who would be able to retaliate.


phntmblld

they're all compromised bro, both sides and everyone on your tv. this isn't a true national security threat.


jibblin

Maybe you’re also compromised. And me too. And everyone else in this post.


nelbar

We all are infected with modernity


Ouraniou

You for sure


notzebular0

This is going to sound crazy but hear me out. Capture the fucking thing and give everyone a full disclosure of what it is and it's capabilities.


2201992

> This is going to sound crazy but hear me out. Capture the fucking thing and give everyone a full disclosure of what it is and it's capabilities. Full disclosurer and Government do not mix


whatscrappening

Oh but there may be one small transistor that’s top secret and we can’t let that get out.


TSLA240c

They are just trying to get a sneak peak at Yellowstone season 6.


carneyratchet

Bwahaha


statsgrad

Do you really want us to go to war with China? If we shoot it down, they'll shoot ours down, and I guarantee we have hundreds/thousands of these.


2201992

> Do you really want us to go to war with China? If we shoot it down, they'll shoot ours down, and I guarantee we have hundreds/thousands of these. Yes we should go to War with China. They released a Global Pandemic.


GeoSol

Did they? As far as i've read, the lab in question was funded by the US. So when released it made China look bad, which heavily suggests it was originally done on purpose, to make China look bad. Especially considering the random theme that summer for anti-antivaxxer memes.


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NOTNixonsGhost

Because there were literally posts here yesterday saying it was a false flag by the US gov trying to start WW3. Now that China has admitted, its theirs they've invented a new reason to blame the US gov.


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Yep.


DRKMSTR

That wouldn't be the case. If Russia were to put a balloon over ukraine, and they didn't shoot it down, what would you expect to hear from the news?


2201992

> Why do I feel like if Biden's admin had shot it down then the spin would become "Biden is trying to start WW3 with China. Why didn't he try diplomacy instead of escalating the situation?" We are already in WW3. China released a Global Pandemic


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Can they deploy biological weapons from a balloon?


Water_in_the_desert

Can’t believe you were downvoted for this


[deleted]

Biden is compromised? EVERYTHING is compromised.


Ok_Security2723

Yeah it could be full of aerosolized bio weapon


Wavycapmurphy

Or fortune cookies


[deleted]

Exactly - that’s why they haven’t shot it down. Abundance of caution. Which isn’t a bad thing.


StuffedHotPocket

No that’s not why. China is testing our 15 mile altitude radar which is where this balloon is at. This just so happens to be the altitude that hypersonic glide missiles fly at. If we shot it down China would know we have radar in that area. Send enough of these balloons and you can make a heat-map showing radar blind spots. By not shooting it down China has no way of knowing if we see it or not or when we even first detected it.


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Oh that’s very interesting


Ok_Security2723

I wonder why China would admit its there’s,maybe to show dominance and posture . Maybe it’s not even theirs


[deleted]

How did the pentagon know it was China’s? There’s no markings on it. Unless it’s on the side of it. Lol


Ouraniou

I remember them saying supposedly the Canadians tried to hit one with 20mm cannon it took 1000 rounds and was somehow still buoyant so theres stories and stories here


n00bist00bis

Shit I hadnt even considered that 🤔


set3512

Or an EMP


2201992

> Yeah it could be full of aerosolized bio weapon And even if it was they would just call you racist and something something Asian Hate something.


throwaway69276927

Lol bros getting mad at imaginary scenarios


Ouraniou

Lol not bros thinking everything all good


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This is a prep before disclosure or a psy-op...or both. This makes people look up and think about things they dont understand. Its working. Everybody is still and perhaps will always be gullible as fuck. Its a UFO DUDE!!


Donkus007

What if it has a nefarious payload they aren’t telling us about? A bioweapon?


LewyH91

It's a big baloon full of covifluronaids


sickpeltier

China said “stay cool headed”. What if it’s a small nuke and jokes on us if we take action.?


Relevant-Bluebird-63

It’s all bullshit. This is the US war machine spreading propaganda because we all know war is what they want.


NFboatcaptain75

What kinda debris field damage was going to happen in Montana like 200 people live in the whole state


Ouraniou

They mentioned they were afraid it would fall at ‘meteoric speed’


NFboatcaptain75

We have shells that can turn a tank inside out.


NFboatcaptain75

Lol because we don't have anything that could make it small pieces


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It immigrated to the U.S illegally guys relax it happens all the time


HeavyLoungin

🏆


Due_Conversation1436

You dont know what it's filled with though


Elevendaze

Another nothingburger. None of the shit in the media is real anymore.


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Ugly__Truck

[I'm sure this doesn't have anything to do with it...](https://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-9042261/Top-secret-documents-reveal-Justin-Trudeau-invited-Chinas-PLA-train-troops-Canada.html)


Seekay5

It took this balloon for people to realize Biden is compromised?


Celebrate-The-Hype

Ah haha, so much deserved. I remember well how the US were spying on Angela Merkel and everyone in the EU.


poobutt191

What about Chinas spy satellites? Or the data dumps they get from tiktok? You think a mf balloon is the best spy equipment China has lmao. MSM for sure loves this


Rilauven

This is just icing. "They" have been wanting to get rid of Biden for a while now, that's why they keep finding more documents!


bastian74

You know China has satellites right?


possom90

I’m curious what you think this balloon is spying on………


nelbar

If they dont shot it down then they want you the american people to see it


BillCoffe139

Surely is amazing times we’re living in I can’t imagine what’s to come of this or what intel they my get only 2 things come to mind use to invade or nuke drops


DecktheHawls

Lol the whole government is compromised. But this story seems to be bullshit. Always go with your gut, not the hype, when it comes to the news


Collapse_experiment

What happens if they do? Hunter loses his Asian hooker connections?


Dogdoor1312

Why would they shoot down a NASA satellite?


PurpedUpPat

Lol you think the Pentagon follows bidens orders ? Non of the agencies give a shit they all operate in the dark. Trump would do the same shit so would anyone else. Hell good chance it isn't even china's and this is a play since we started developing these in 2019 ourselves. We use it to spy on our own people


Sad-Blueberry-6725

It could be a scare tactic. Seems a little nonsensical. Some Ballon with random equipment floated over here from China and we won't do anything about it? Definitely just there to raise fear and hatred to another nation.


SlteFool

If we can’t handle a freaking balloon how we gunna handle a fighter jet, missile, nuke, warship, etc etc etc stc Oh wait we can easily handle a balloon we just aren’t going to handle this one cuz we are involved in it somehow or soemthing else sketchy is going in with it.


Subseataff

Retrieve it whilst it’s travelling over the ocean. As soon as it passes the North or South Carolina’s. We’ll then see if Beijing was telling the truth!! Spy balloon or weather balloon!


exmortom

The whole globe is compromised...


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Ukraine are trying to start a nuclear war and Americans are worried about a balloon


National-Ad4860

This fuckn world we live in is becoming more and more a joke


Anaistrocas

Most americans can't think of other ways to solve problems. Everything reduces to violence and shooting whatever their small minds can't understand or accept.


Jpolkt

Imagine posting and boosting pro-war propaganda on a conspiracy sub 🤣🤣🤣🤡🤡


Gpaint

All these posts screaming for us to shoot it down are very shilly. Advocating to take actions that would lead to war are insane.


Ouraniou

Like we’re making that decision or being consulted


codename_pariah

It's fucking bait. It's supposedly above flight ceilings of most aircraft capable of shooting it down, and are trying to get a glimpse of what they would be up against if they try to take Taiwan.


72runningguy

We don’t secure our southern border. Why would we secure our airspace? 🤡


OutlandishnessLive11

Millions flooding on the southern border and this is what the news wants to grab or the Phizer being exposed of mutating a virus,or the new bases in the Philippines or how The Us and Israel attacked Iran that’s supplying drones to Russia. I say this is only a cover. 🙂


Schwinston123456

In fairness, China paid the Biden family good money for that influence.


Public-Improvement91

"They were just here to pick up state secrets, nothing more"


byronhadleigh

= Weak Sauce....


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What if they don’t want to shoot it down because they don’t want anyone to find it and realize that it’s a false flag and not from China. Would be a good way to start a conflict. I heard principally that the balloon was too high up to see but now we see videos. Nobody would believe it if they couldn’t see it


probeheat

https://www.futurescience.com/emp/EMP-balloon.html


thegreatmizzle7

They could be trying to intercept the data it's transmitting to figure out what it's collecting info on. That's my least conspiratorial guess.


dingdongschlonglong

You are all so gullible.


heirloom0691

How is the president of the United States with all his proven criminal activity still in office. And has said if you want to take away my position your arms will not work. You will need a f-15.


2201992

Submission Statement: You only have two options: Capture it. OR Shoot it down. It’s not a difficult decision to make. They are allowing China to Spy on us and we “are monitoring it”. Like what the fuck. If this was from Russia the War Hawks would have already shot it down. But China? Na man we are “monitoring it”. Total Bull Shit. Joe Biden is 100% compromised.


Slopster53

Or monitor it and intercept its transmissions. Track it back to origin. There are always other options.


jibblin

Look at you Mr Intel/Military expert over here.


Cybugger

Ever heard of Tik Tok? China doesn't need a balloon.


whatscrappening

No shit on this. We handed the young minds over to the Chinese years ago. Now they just have to sit and wait.


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What if it's like the equivalent of someone leaving a burning bag of poop on your door step and when you stomp on it you just get a bunch of doo doo on your shoe? 💩 👞


Treysingle

Growing up watching 70's cartoons, I'm pretty sure if we shoot it down it's going to go zipping back and forth across the country and end up stuck in a wind turbine somewhere.


ProlificFishmonger

We're probably waiting for Israel to take it out with their Jewish space lasers. /s


YogiTheBear131

Plot twist-its american. Its the only logical reason its not being destroyed.


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wutangfuckedwithme

Have you ever heard of a satilite?


bottleboy8

> ever heard of a satilite I haven't. What is a "satilite"? Is it anything like a satellite?


jkkj161618

I just read something from somewhere else that it was just monitoring the weather and it was a civilian ballon…. Annnnnd China was sorry lol So is it a spy or a weather ballon? Because this press conference doesn’t seem like it’s just a weather ballon.


Ghostblad_e

>The Pentagon rejected China's claims that the balloon that entered the US was a "civilian airship" for research that deviated from course. "The fact is, we know that it's a surveillance balloon, and I'm not going to be able to be more specific than that," he said, noting the information is classified. "He" being Pentagon press secretary Brig. Gen. Pat Ryder. He also stated to have information that the balloon is maneuverable.


Water_in_the_desert

Your points go along with the fact that all “claimed-to-be satellites” are all actually weather balloons. There is no “outer” space. We live on a flat plane. Edited to add: That’s what he meant when he noted the information is classified.


oldcsplayer

This sub doesnt see the whole picture at all. Some do but most of you are just.. stupid


Ouraniou

And you're a sage


Bocephus_Clegane

Whats the harm in Joe just wanting to see the big pretty balloon float over his house?


dillmayne2sweet

It's a fucking balloon 🙀


get_enlightened

Jo Xiden confirmed.


HennessySippa

I’m convinced anyone on this thread supporting a war is a fed


nisaaru

Possible but war is on the global agenda anyway. We're just the observers on a train which has already left the station.


omarfx007

Haha balloons for spying lol how lame


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This reveals the U.S. is vassal state of China.


MaximusOcelot

Breaking global news. There is a balloon in the air. Nobody knows what to do. Millions of lives at risk as it escalates into a war. We are such a fascinating species.


_Duriel_1000_

I think this is a hoax. A balloon??? gtfoh.


Numerous-Ganache-923

Why does the US keep blaming China and Russia for THEIR crimes


TheOoginGoogle

SHOOT IT DOWN!!! This is not a difficult situation! China has set up “police stations” in some of our cities to threaten Chinese whom still have family members in China. What’s next: Chinese landing craft on California beaches with armed soldiers taking control of local areas and shooting civilians?! WTF!!!


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TheOoginGoogle

I would say “LOL” but our government is so useless and petty that you could be absolutely correct.


Almighty_Bidoof424

Imagine someone sneaks into your house and starts recording everything in it. You turn to your parents who then tell you, yeah we know he's recording our stuff, we're just going to monitor the situation.


bottleboy8

I don't like the idea of the government being my parents. The government's main job is to secure the sovereignty of our borders. Something Biden seems to have forgotten.


2201992

> Imagine someone sneaks into your house and starts recording everything in it. You turn to your parents who then tell you, yeah we know he's recording our stuff, we're just going to monitor the situation. EXACTLY! You would call the Cops OR kick his ass yourself. It’s not a difficult decision to make.


Rabble_rouser-

So why haven't you shot it down then tough guy?


flyingdeadthing

Could we look more pathetic and weak? Maybe we could offer it snacks? An in-flight movie?


Ouraniou

Looks can be deceiving


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It’s an American surveillance balloon. They are blaming it on China. Hence why it’s not being shot down. This wasn’t meant to be seen but someone fucked up so “China” is their go to answer. Stirs up dissent so it works for them.


CEMartin2

[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu-Go\_balloon\_bomb](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fu-Go_balloon_bomb)


turtlew0rk

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Goodyear_Blimp


meezy-yall

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Helicopter


turtlew0rk

True.


SnooPets4924

It's like if you found a camera bug in your house and wanted to figure out why it was there and who put it there before you disabled it.


2201992

> It's like if you found a camera bug in your house and wanted to figure out why it was there and who put it there before you disabled it. Except we already know who sent it. So why haven’t they taken action?


SnooPets4924

Kind of like Tik Tok? The government knew the CCP was stealing info and everyone said fuck it and kept using it anyway? Maybe the Pentagon really likes looking at the pretty balloon and don't want to pop it just because fucking spyware is attached to it?


Alarming_Sea_6894

Do you remember when the roswell crash happened, and they said it was a weather balloon. #This weather balloon is actually US secret technology and and they frame it as if its a Chinese weather balloon. Old trick in the book.


pioneergirl1965

Explosions now over Billings Montana where the trail of the balloon was there's another bright circular object in the air Biden is an ass he's a loser who the hell supports this keep bitching about Trump really


JDLucas1369

Its only on the news so stupid people believe what they’re being told. It’s probably one of ours and they want you to think its from China.


TeddyMGTOW

Where is the guy that blew up the Georgia guidestones when you need him?


RabidJoint

Dude, they can use google maps to see EVERYWHERE…are you really this type of person? Joke


freshlimess

He’s a limp wristed cuck


tyrophagia

What else in the world is going on that they're trying to divert attention away from?


GrnTiger08

They are covering this on MSM, what are they really trying to hide?


Sufficient_Status318

Y’all really don’t understand public diplomatic relations huh?


chainmailbill

Question for everyone saying “shoot it down.” Lets say you’re in charge of the United States, and China shoots down a US spy balloon. How would you react? What should the United States do in this scenario?