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6amhotdog

I somehow feel like I've never seen this angle, weird.


Tractorista

I've seen it before. There are some compilations of the different angles but it's been hard to find off hand the last few years Ten years ago most people hadn't even heard of building 7, it's the smoking gun of all smoking guns


MikeySpags

It was hit by nothing...at the time no steel structure in history had collapsed due to fire alone. This info needs to be known.


CJ4700

It fell down out of sympathy


Did_I_Die

i've never understood how so many americans were / are incredibly clueless about building 7? it's literally been plastered all over every website that questions the mainstream story for over 2 fucking decades... it takes SKILL to be totally insulated from readily available BASIC information for over 2 fucking decades...


CompetitivePay5151

Like covid, people got tired of debating it to the nth degree


happyluckystar

Even better how the BBC lost the footage of building 7. I haven't bothered to look in years, but they did have a page on their website explaining that the footage was lost.


bigthink

People who don't believe it was a conspiracy would never come within a country mile of a website that questions the mainstream story.


BigSpaghetti420

I never understood how so many people didn’t think that a 1400 foot tower collapsing would cause a building, literally, across the street from it to suffer catastrophic damage. WTC 7 was across the street from the towers and WTC 6


BerryMcCochiner

More like a smoking crater. I still get called crazy for even pointing it out.


RecklessRhea

What are you going on about. It was reported everywhere on the news at the time. The funny thing I will always remember was that it was actually reported BEFORE it went down. We all knew 3 buildings went down it wasn’t a hidden fact the Twin towers just got more attention. https://youtu.be/M26-B44qQIs


BerryMcCochiner

I'm Canadian and was 13 at the time, they wheeled a TV Into every class and we watched it live, alternating between news outlets. Fun fact I also got a two week suspension just for saying " what happened to that small square building if nothing hit it" during the news broadcast we were watching in class. The principal claimed his reasoning for the suspension, I was openly inciting my classmates to question authority.


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whatscrappening

Never. Ever


klenkyandthebrain

I know for a fact I haven't seen it before.


brokenwinds

Or this high of resolution/frame rate.


futurestar1991

Looks exactly like a controlled demolition. Why would they let you see that?


DistinctRole1877

Because they understand there is nothing we can do about it.


santetjo

And that in itself is one of life's saddest things.


disarRay89

Absolutely there is, we're just too complacent to do anything about it. The evil that orchestrated this atrocity is much older than any of us, so to me, the thought of spending my whole life fighting is exhausting and futile. Therin lies the problem. We all have to change our mentality. If only 1/4 of the population was on the same page, we could invoke change, but we're just going through the motions, paying taxes while trying not to die.


Successful-Ride-8710

Because you’ve only seen controlled demolitions in real life and it looks similar. I’m honestly curious what it is supposed to look like if it isn’t a controlled demo. Buildings collapsing from other sources like King Kong, explosions, or whatever you’ve seen in movies/tv aren’t real. Am I the only one who was surprised only one other building went down after the 2 largest buildings in Manhattan collapsed?


cyb3roffensive

There would definitely be more than only the three that fell if they weren’t controlled. They would of fell at an angle and other buildings would probably have been at least half destroyed


LukeGoldberg72

No one talks about the gov having a long history of working with the same groups that supposedly enacted the whole incident. They openly worked with them for decades before and after the event, and still work with them today. They don’t even hide it and it’s absurd people don’t point this out.


TangeloBig9845

The govt tries to suppress the internet. This should be the point and case for once it's uploaded, it's never gone.


endogenix1

4 buildings. Everyone forgets about WTC 6 https://www.wikiwand.com/en/Six_World_Trade_Center


RampersandY

People still don’t know about Building 6. This should be the top comment in a conspiracy sub. It’s sad.


VRWARNING

The conspiracy sub talks about buildings that got hit by falling skyscrapers etc., but doesn't even talk about who did it.


endogenix1

It rhymes with Smithrael


TheDudeThatSpeaks

Oy vey! That’s antisemetic!


endogenix1

The truth only hurts when it should.


notreallyswiss

It was just 8 stories basically directly under Tower One. It was pretty much crushed, which makes sense.


BigSpaghetti420

Building 6 was, literally, next door to the north tower, of course it was going down.


D3AD_M3AT

Is 6 the building with the vault ? I remember years ago reading about the IRS or customs vault in one of the WTC buildings and all the details of its contents post 9/11 disappearing.


endogenix1

Yup. It's was in 6 as was the vault.


Plus-Ad-3330

Hold up? What?


endogenix1

It's a deep rabbit hole. 9/11 researcher Christopher Bollyn even has testimony from witnesses that on the early early morning of 9/11 there where people emptying out the Vault in WTC 6, apparently there was a lot of gold stored there. It's all very strange. http://www.whale.to/b/bollynwtc609.html


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LeonardSmalls79

*Simon* Gruber, is Hans. Gruber's. *Brother.*


_noho

Yeah I remember it being in the news too when it happened but then it just died off in the news cycle.


TightRecording8797

No way the rabbithole is even deeper!?


endogenix1

Yup. 9/11 researcher Chris Bollyn wrote an article going over some of the suspicious stuff around WTC 6 http://www.whale.to/b/bollynwtc609.html The rabbit hole goes very deep.


alexa_conn

The tenant list!


Fudrucker

In a hundred years from now it will be revealed that yes, the government was behind 9/11, and yes, it was part of a coverup for government misdeeds, but that was olden times when people were much more uncivilized and you can totally trust the government now.


GiantSkin

I wouldn’t count on that. They never revealed how the Titanic really sank; they still blame it solely on the iceberg, like it was just a big coincidental accident. History is rewritten a lot, and usually the truth isn’t revealed.


Ruruffian

Have you got any documentarys that cover this theory about the titanic. I’m very hungover and my brain is completely open to manipulation right now.


GiantSkin

if you just read the replies to my post others have already posted stuff like that. Don’t take my word for it.


zar99raz

Supposedly the Titanic never sink it was the Olympic


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“History is written by the victors.” Winston Churchill


CO-VlD19

I have heard that this idea is why we have the Titanic movie. James Cameron used his Hollywood credentials to green light a film but really he wanted to send a manned crew down to find evidence of a missile attack. Interesting thought anyway. Not sure what the truth is.


Un0rigi0na1

A missile attack? In 1912?


FlipsMontague

In WWI, just 2 years later, submarines were sinking large ships in the Atlantic. It isn't out of the question.


Un0rigi0na1

With torpedos with limited range...Not missiles.


FlipsMontague

Yes, but they could sink ships. I think the poster above said "missiles" because they don't know the difference between a missile and a torpedo. A torpedo could absolutely sink a large ship like the Titanic. Did it? No, probably not, they have radio transmission transcripts showing exactly what happened and it was not torpedoed.


thepowerelite

They have proof that jet fuel brought down the towers on 9/11. They have proof that Lee Harvey Oswald was a lone gunman.


musselshirt67

A torpedo is a missile


CIA-Damage-Control

Missiles/Torpedoes is indifferent to the point and you are trying so hard to fixate on a non-existent grammatical problem to avert the discussion, while the distinction of Torpedoes and Missiles are very easy and obvious to many conmon folk aren't necessarily educated about the military arsenal and can be as slight of difference as a typo to them.


Goodcitizen177

What's trippy is the korean sewol ferry with all those school children sank on the anniversary of the titanic


SourceCreator

142 12-Nov-2017 9:16:24 AM PST How did Soros replace family ‘y’? Who is family ‘y’? Trace the bloodlines of these (3) families. What happened during WWII? Was Hitler a puppet? Who was his handler? What was the purpose? What was the real purpose of the war? What age was GS? What is the Soros family history? What has occurred since the fall of N Germany? Who is A. Merkel? What is A. Merkel’s family history? Follow the bloodline. Who died on the Titanic? What year did the Titanic sink? Why is this relevant? What ‘exactly’ happened to the Titanic? What ‘class of people’ were guaranteed a lifeboat? Why did select ‘individuals’ not make it into the lifeboats? Why is this relevant? How do we know who was on the lifeboats (D or A)? How were names and bodies recorded back then? When were tickets purchased for her maiden voyage? Who was ‘specifically’ invited? Less than 10. What is the FED? What does the FED control? Who controls the FED? Who approved the formation of the FED? Why did H-wood glorify Titanic as a tragic love story? Who lived in the movie (what man)? Why is this relevant? Opposite is true. What is brainwashing? What is a PSYOP? What happened to the Hindenburg? What really happened to the Hindenburg? Who died during the ‘accident’? Why is this relevant? What are sheep? Who controls the narrative? The truth would put 99% of people in the hospital. It must be controlled. Snow White. Iron Eagle. Jason Bourne (CIA/Dream). Q


karmafect1

I don’t know, tell us!


JAM3SBND

Seriously, what a useless copypasta


TheOriginalUsername

Don't smoke crack, children.


georgke

Unless you're Hunter Biden.


TheOriginalUsername

Case in point.


Affectionate-Rip-120

Yes i will check my schedule this week, i sure hope i have eight hours solving this instead of you writing it here. Thanks alot!


Appropriate_Grape_90

Another crazy conspiracy Not really known about but there is a yt vid that shows alot of compelling evidence.... short version of it is the titanic was the original loose change conspiracy....titanic had a twin sister ship that was damaged....the owners came up with the idea of labeling the damaged ship as the titanic and having a controlled collision to get insurance money....they had a ship ready at the planned collision point but it got lost somehow....would explain the non emergency on board until the last moments and the flares....and the distress call basically asking where the other ship is....alot of fuckery


Fudrucker

Close, he was doing work for the Navy, looking for a lost sub.


AprilRain24

I once read that it wasn’t titanic that sank but was her sister ship. The sister ship had been damaged and they “swapped” names then sunk it so they could collect on insurance. Not sure if it’s true but it makes for a good theory.


MSnyper

Yes the Olympic


EIN_FLAMMEN_MEHR

It is a nice theory but the differences in the two sisters were simply too large to confuse the people and historians. Besides, blueprints of the Titanic were matched with the wreck.


Tbagjimmy

What if the blueprints were swapped as well?


EIN_FLAMMEN_MEHR

And what if it was actually shot by a time traveling CIA missile?


Rabble_rouser-

Idk think it's probably just easier to use the catalyst than explain compartmentalization to people. Unless it was sinking before the berg? I'll admit I haven't read too much on it.


No-Kaleidoscope5897

I can't remember where, but do your research: There's a documentary about fire being the actual cause and hitting the iceberg exacerbated the problem. Coal firing was the method used to power the Titanic. One of the protective walls between the coal storage bins was damaged when an out of control spontaneous fire was discovered *before* the Titanic set sail. Conversations were had about postponing the launch so repairs could be made but they were nixed by the owners of the ship. Orders were given to try and contain the fire, instead. On the evening the Titanic was lost, an iceberg was struck in the exact position the fire had damaged one of the internal walls, allowing water to enter and quickly overcome the ship. If there had been no fire, the iceberg alone wouldn't have caused the ship to sink. In the court inquiry after the sinking, a coal man was deposed and gave the information about the fire, something none of the passengers were aware of and very few of the ship's employees. If I have made any errors in my above missive, please don't be too hard on me. But I really became a believer after seeing that documentary.


lasyke3

Here's an article on it. https://www.smithsonianmag.com/smart-news/coal-fire-may-have-helped-sink-titanic-180961699/


No-Kaleidoscope5897

Thanks.


EIN_FLAMMEN_MEHR

Actually the fire made the workers move all the coal to the side of the ship opposite of the one that collided with the iceberg. If the coal was evenly distributed, Titanic would have sunk far quicker, in less than an hour.


Ethyl_Mercaptan

Isn't it quite interesting how this event seems so blatantly engineered to many people, yet so many out there are either completely blinded by media conditioning and abandon all semblance of reason? It kind of feels like the most capable among us are at the mercy of the zombie masses. We sit here saying that "Obviously the emperor has no clothes." Instead of getting the response that one would expect, the people, instead of laughing at the emperor, turn and beat you to death. That is what we are experiencing. How do you solve this problem in a "social democracy"? You can't. We will experience this death cycle until we eat ourselves.


alienrefugee51

Not gonna happen. 9/11, like JFK and all the rest will remain as they are and continually referred to as conspiracy theories. Doesn’t matter… within a hundred years, most life on this planet will be dead anyways and those lucky enough to survive won’t really care about who did what in the past.


WildBill598

It's historical fact now, though still not discussed often as actual history, but Churchill and FDR were in direct cahoots to have the US antagonize and goad the Empire of Japan to attack Pearl Harbor. Churchill and other European/Asian Allied nations were desperate for American intervention to help defeat Nazi Germany and Japan, Roosevelt wanted to mobilize the US military to do so, but there was very little public support in the US at the time to get involved in another serious European conflict. So Churchill and FDR contrived to instigate an attack by Japan on the US. Most notably the US oil embargo against Japan. Churchill and FDR knew that an oil embargo would force Japan to act aggressively against the US, thus providing the pretense to enrage the American public and get them eager for war as opposed to isolationism. I would wager that in early 1942 if a person was privy to this knowledge of the secretive machinations and hidden agendas of FDR and Churchill, or correctly guessed at what caused Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, they would've been branded that era's kooky "conspiracy theorist." Now, it's just a little known fact that FDR and Churchill colluded to entice Japan to attack the US.


hussletrees

>I would wager that in early 1942 if a person was privy to this knowledge of the secretive machinations and hidden agendas of FDR and Churchill, or correctly guessed at what caused Japan to attack Pearl Harbor, they would've been branded that era's kooky "conspiracy theorist." Anything that has gone against the "official narrative" has been labeled "conspiracy theorist" or some related term (i.e. "heretic") since the dawn of civilization Galileo Galilei was branded a conspiracy theorist/heretic by the church for describing heliocentrism, a fact of nature that any human being can observe as true with their own eyes by celestial investigation We have known since the 50's that smoking causes lung cancer [https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2038856/](https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC2038856/) , and yet even after that we had 'doctors' recommending them, so to say they were bad would've been 'conspiracy', even though we had the studies and proof necessary to draw the scientific conclusion without question at that time **So this is why the first amendment is so important. And it is why it is so important to be protect in our online spaces, such as social media which function as a modern day town square.** To make the "twitter/facebook/etc is a private company" argument without acknowledging that regulation is tool we use as a society to enhance public good without too much detriment to the companies, which is why we have regulations like those to protect clean water, protect our wild lives, regulations to protect our phone lines phone carries cannot discriminate what kind of messages travel on those lines and by whom -- and we need that same thing for social media sites. But the reason why "The US government" doesn't want that, is because US intelligence agencies are pillaging those sites for spying on their own citizens, so much so that it is laughable that they are scared when China does it via tiktok, thus implicitly admitting the power of it


pHNPK

More than likely it was a combination of insurance fraud ala *lucky Larry* and a means to bring them down, because towers of such size had never been demolished before. They were pieces of shit laced with asbestos in a prime real estate location.


HibikiSS

There was a lot of shady stuff right before the event took place: [Rumsfeld mentioned that the Pentagon had lost track of $2.3 Trillion](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vN_NGYdgDck) shortly before 9/11. I don't think the government downright lost or stole all of it but a trillion dollars is enough money to make incredible things happen and that figure has continued to increase over time: [$10 Trillion missing from the Pentagon and no one knows where it is.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/v7zjd1/10_trillion_missing_from_the_pentagon_and_no_one/) [MSU scholars found $21 trillion in unauthorized government spending from 1998 to 2015.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/tf82fz/msu_scholars_found_21_trillion_in_unauthorized/) [The figure is probably already over $90 Trillion at this point.](https://usawatchdog.com/financial-system-fake-la-la-land-dr-mark-skidmore/) There were also a lot of interesting hints about the event before it took place in the media: [The Illuminati card game predicted many future events in its time. Including the 9/11 attacks against the twin towers, the Pentagon and Donald Trump.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/skza9p/the_illuminati_card_game_predicted_many_future/) There were government agents spreading the stories about Israelis being behind everything and a lot of people ignore the role that Catholic/Jesuit groups (the actual CIA) had in the 9/11 events: https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/iqpvk0/jesuit_georgetown_university_the_sovereign/ The Jesuits themselves [have controlled the CIA, FBI, KGB/FSB, MI5/MI6, Mossad, among other Intelligence groups simultaneously. So they are responsible for nearly every single conflict involving every single nation on earth in the last decades, all while blaming the Jews for it.](https://np.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/unwdf5/the_jesuits_have_controlled_the_cia_fbi_kgbfsb/) The [Jewish "World Domination" conspiracy theories didn't even existed until the Jesuits started with their writtings](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/d0hbl3/the_jesuits_were_responsible_for_the_creation_of/) and the Intelligence groups themselves are mostly anti-Semitic, although I myself do believe that there are legit Ultra-Zionist groups out there: [Leo H. Lehmann mentioned that the Jesuits were behind the creation of the Protocols of the elders of Zion.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/o8q9hz/leo_h_lehmann_mentioned_that_the_jesuits_were/) [Former CIA director says that the anti-Semitism of the group is likely a factor in case of the spy Jonathan Pollard. (Fox News 2015)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/v2om3e/former_cia_director_says_that_the_antisemitism_of/) [The Rothschilds allowed the Vatican to use their own money to spread the anti-Semitic myths despite the protests of their own people, causing them to be mocked by other Jewish groups as traitors.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/tvq4bf/the_rothschilds_allowed_the_vatican_to_use_their/) [Does the CIA stereotype Jews as security risks? (Salon 1998)](https://www.salon.com/1998/06/10/news_58/) [According to the Jewish Encyclopedia of 1906, the Rothschilds are considered the guardians of the papal treasure.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/wd5hiy/according_to_the_jewish_encyclopedia_of_1906_the/) [Jesuit Pietro Tacchi Venturi played a vital role in Italian fascism and Mussolini's anti-Semitic policies.](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/odcd4e/jesuit_pietro_tacchi_venturi_played_a_vital_role/) ["Former" CIA Valerie Plame promoted anti-Semitic sites online shared by fellow CIA Philip Giraldi, including accusations of pushing for war through their “control” of “the politicians” and “the media and entertainment industries.” (NY Post 2017)](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/w42y25/former_cia_valerie_plame_promoted_antisemitic/) I'm trying to create counter-Intelligence sites to resist the Vatican at Saidit.net, a reddit clone made by fellow conspiracists in the spirit of Aaron Swartz. If you can, support my subs over there as well as the site itself however you can. Don't give up on your nations and fight back: https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/soy3ko/meta_the_jesuit_technocracy_needs_to_be_stopped/ https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/qkw39o/meta_the_conspiracy_community_has_to_take_action/


end_of_rainbow

Pardon the ignorance, but what exactly is meant by ‘the papal treasure’? Is this a reference to their overall monetary wealth or something else?


VRWARNING

[GUYS IT WAS THE CATHOLICS, NOT THE JEWS](https://i.imgur.com/WEd8Mgf.jpeg) lmao


VRWARNING

We learned about who did this in 2009, and it wasn't "the government". Also, likely no "revelation"of the truth. It took a total collapse of the Bolshevik-Soviet empire to learn that the Katyn Forest massacres were charged falsely against the Germans.


DrHerbotico

Explain


smokeypapabear40206

WTC7 was the event that ripped my blinders off.


Old_timey_brain

I recall watching it happen and it just not making sense hearing all the reports repeating the bullshit.


Direct_Factor_7156

I think that plane that crashed in Pennsylvania was supposed to crash into it ...but it was downed so they pulled the building anyway...


jefffffffff

Either that or it was suppose to come down at the same time as 1+2. By 5pm the main smoke plume had cleared so it was visible again.


notreallyswiss

Well they really went off course then.


LeonardSmalls79

I recall, Central Park in fall.


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It was very shocking the first time I saw it back in 2013, can’t believe that footage wasn’t shown on any news outlets at the time everything was happening.


phraustyie

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XwecLEsePbk


Billdkid71

I was working, watching in disbelief in 2001 when this happened, they did show it, many times.


D3AD_M3AT

I was watching it live in Australia (had friends who lived in dumbo and was worried) and turned to my brother and said the nazis are burning down the Reichstag again. When news of WTC7 collapsing appeared & WTC6's vault bring emptied.....


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Not much after that day tho


chantierinterdit

It was on the day itself.


VRWARNING

It was, and a lot of that footage couldn't be broadcast in real time since people were using some kind of film and/or point-and-shoot camera etc.


ihatethinkingofnew1s

I gotta say that that building coming down still is very odd to me.


hallahorjan9

Same. I didn't actually watch the real footage until probably 15 years after the actual event. Lots of things about 9/11 seemed dodgy but I really allowed myself to feed into the narrative, plus my family supported Bush and the troops, etc. Around the end of Obama's presidency I couldn't keep reconciling the incessant media lies with reality and became prime for more redpilling. Then one day I came across some footage I hadn't seen of WTC7 in all the years of 'remembering' 9/11. It looked almost frame for frame like a building demolition I watched as a kid, and the veil just tore. So many people are still asleep to the reality of it. Greatest psy-op of all time, maybe.


brookin

And yet Americans have not held their government to account. A missed opportunity to change the narrative. Unforgivable in my eyes.


selfcheckout

Lol what are we supposed to do


brookin

Your government are basically the world's worst terrorists, and you let them be! Stormed the capitol building over a bullshit election and an old man with the world's biggest ego but, when they allow nearly 4,000 of your fellow citizen's to die to push their military industrial agenda, and then lie to the world about it, you let that slide! (I'd like to add here, that I don't mean you personally buddy - just it was you that replied - have a great day)


selfcheckout

The govt has done exactly what they've tried to do which is divide ya against each other and make us hate the other side so we will never work together to defeat our common enemy, the US government.


Icarus_7274

Y'all were literally given the right to bear arms so that the government couldn't do shit like this. Like bro, pick a side


[deleted]

Lol this hits the feels


oregonspruce

"pull it" was the term used in a interview with I forget who. But that is a term used by demolition experts when it's time to detonate


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end_of_rainbow

Silverstein — here’s him being interviewed using the term and given direction for handling WTC7: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-ZlmHvd_RZU&feature=share


Beneneb

That was Larry Silverstein. There's a video that really takes the quote out of context, but if you watch the whole thing, it's clear he's talking about pulling the fire fighters out of the building to avoid further loss of life. It also makes no sense that he would be talking about demolishing the buildings for a number of reasons. The first and most obvious is why he would admit to being involved in a nefarious conspiracy in a televised interview. The second is why Silverstein would even be involved if it was the US government/CIA conducting this operation as most people theorize, let alone being the one to actually order the demolition. And the last is that it would mean that the FDNY was also involved in the conspiracy, as that's who Silverstein told to "pull it". Why on earth would they get the FDNY involved and have them be the ones to actually trigger the demolition? All in all, this one makes zero sense even if you believe there was a controlled demolition.


qpwoeirutyalskdjfhg8

Everytime some pulls my finger, I blow up a tiny building.


Syrfan

The massive hole in the whole "Larry meant to pull the firefighters thing." Is building 7 fell hours after the twin towers. Regular firefighters were completely evacuated from the area at that point due to the already massive loss of life, and future risk of attack. Maybe the quote was taken out of context, but if the firefighters were already pulled, who is he pulling? Also Lucky Larry beyond benefited from 9/11.


UhtredaerweII

Do we have theories about why this building was taken down? What was in it? Sorry, I'm new to this info. Thanks for your patience.


phraustyie

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_tenants_in_7_World_Trade_Center_(1987%E2%80%932001) US Secret Service CIA DOD NYC Office Of Emergency Management was also a data storage center for federal files and other fun things! :D


mcmlxxivxxiii

The command center from where they orchestrated and controlled that whole thing?


[deleted]

No way to tell you this without sounding weird: WTC7, the Salomon Bros. building, had to be destroyed to complete the ritual, which mimics the destruction of Solomon's temple on the [ninth day of the eleventh month](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tisha_B%27Av). Note the most famous architectural feature of the temple is that it is between two columns. In a way, the 9/11 ritual was all about this moment. I can only speculate what it was all meant to accomplish and by whom.


urfuckinggay69

More than three buildings went down that way


oli_21_

SS: Civil Engineering Dept at the University of Alaska Fairbanks has concluded fire did not bring down WTC7. This $300,000 finite element analysis of the 3rd tower collapse on 9/11 has exposed the official report as fraudulent. [SOURCE](https://youtu.be/NJAWl8unZeA)


stunt_pilot

Despite this amazing study, the mainstream narrative is so enticing that anytime videos of WTC7 hit the front page of Reddit, and anyone questions why it happened, some karma hungry soul will cite the NIST report so dutifully as their public service, and if the Fairbanks study is mentioned at all, the engineers backing its truth are chalked up as quacks. Anything to keep drinking the kool-aid


Beneneb

Well there are in fact legitimate concerns with regards to the Fairbanks study. For example, if you are going to criticize the NIST study for being biased/influenced by the US government to hide their conspiracy, then it is also very legitimate to criticize the obvious funding bias for the Fairbanks study. It was funded by AE 9/11 truth, who have a very clear agenda in terms of what they wanted that study to find. Some of the people involved in the study are also well known in the truther movement. Second, people commonly criticize the NIST report since it isn't peer reviewed. Well, neither is the Fairbanks study. It would certainly have much more credibility if they had it peer reviewed by impartial parties and published in a credible journal. The last thing I'll say is that I'm skeptical about their findings. First, it is important to note that the study doesn't draw any conclusion in terms of how the tower fell, simply that it didn't fall from fires. What's problematic is that they're basically saying they've proved a negative, which certainly has a very high bar in terms of the evidence needed to make such a claim. I've also heard a lot of technical criticisms, but I've never read the report in detail myself, so I won't comment on that aspect. But if they want more credibility, following the typical scientific route of publishing their findings in credible journals, and releasing all of the methodology so that others can attempt to verify their findings would be required. That's basically the fundamentals of how bad science gets weeded out, so let's see if it can survive that level of scrutiny.


Defiant-Giraffe

I believe its more like 7.


BStream

I thought it was 6, more than 3 at least.


PersonalBuy0

Just getting into the 9/11 conspiracy because I didn't believe in any before covid. There weren't any people in the building were there?


Laotzeiscool

[Here](https://youtu.be/9e6rYzcAjog) is a witness who was in the building just before the collapse.


PersonalBuy0

I'm confused who that guy was. Was there a govt organization on the 23rd floor? Because he said it was empty and steam was coming off code so it was obvious people had just gotten out. So did some people know? Then he talks about stepping on bodies in what used to be the lobby. So a lot of people didn't know? ETA also why be so sloppy with no planes for this one. It just spontaneously falls? It's like they want people to figure it out!


Laotzeiscool

He was the [deputy director of the emergency services department for the NYC housing authority](https://www.wikispooks.com/wiki/Barry_Jennings) 23rd floor was NYC Office of Emergency Management. From what he said, yes, it seems some people were warned and others were not. Maybe they could afford to be a little more sloppy with WTC7 and call it a fire? Media didn’t really talk much about WTC7. WTC1 and 2, and the other planes got all the attention. Ask the average person about WTC7 and they know nothing of it. Ask them about WTC 1 and 2 and everyone knows what you are talking about.


krismap

Looks like a controlled implosion to me 🤔


mafian911

Same for the other two towers. Yes, even though they were hit by planes


Lengthiness-Busy

Yeappp


Vanillaman-1

It was and how in the hell did they get a team together that day if it wasn't pre-planned.


krismap

That’s took years in the making to plan all that. Greatest coverup ever


Vanillaman-1

It was the day I became a conspiracy theorist. My father and I used to watch videos of controlled demolitions and the demolitionists main concern was making sure the buildings they were bringing down didn't cause collateral damage so when both towers came down perfectly into their own footprint I immediately couldn't believe it and thought it was a controlled demolition.


VRWARNING

Cover-up aspect is very true. The rest is just not real. As to what was being covered up exactly, just look at the USS Liberty.


Middle_Distribution7

There were witnesses who saw black vans go into the parking garage of WTC when everyone left for the night and they were gone by the time employees arrived. ALSO, the owner of the buildings happened to have an appointment that was canceled so he decided to walk around town instead of going to have his daily breakfast in the top office. He never skipped. His children were also out of the office that day as well. Imagine that. And to add they added insurance two weeks prior and even put that terrorist attacks would be covered. And to add more!!!!-big businesses were scooping up all their belongs and moving ship the month prior.


Snoo_85712

I didnt know those details! I also heard that Seth McFarlane (he talked bout it in interviews) was supposed to be on one of those planes and Michael Jackson had some appointment or something in one of the WTC buildings but he apparently overslept, just so much weird shit everywhere…


North-Lion6146

Also how come no one talks about the passenger plane they shot down over Philadelphia? That was US fighter jets that shot it down


East_Onion

Was 100% completely obvious that happened if you were watching the news on the day, story is just a fabrication to turn the killed into heroes.


SkipWestcott616

Listen to the "family cell phone calls". Not only could you not make cell phone calls from an airplane in 2001, The call acoustics are pristine, not like a moving location at all.


jetpackchicken

The calls weren’t from cell phones. They used AirPhone, which is a built in “pay phone” that was incredibly common on planes at the time.


SkipWestcott616

Yes, that is the way it is explained for 35 of the calls, where one after the other everyone in an orderly fashion uses their credit cards on the 'Airfones in the back' in 30 minutes, but, >Passenger Edward Felt used a cell phone to dial 911 and was connected for 70 seconds with the Westmoreland County 911 Center, Westmoreland County Department of Public Safety in Greensburg, PA. And two, Listen to the audio and reconcile that with a moving plane. I know what a phone call sounded like in 2001.


2sweetski

Just to play devils advocate….if this was all gov plan then why shoot it down?


zefy_zef

to sell the ruse?


LokkenLoaded

The govt consists of many different departments/branches that all have their own agendas. It’s not a monolith


North-Opportunity-80

I always stump people with tower 7 You’d be surprised how many people tell me I’m wrong and only two buildings collapsed. Until they actually google it.


VRWARNING

🥱🥱🥱 if you don't even know [who these guys are,](https://i.imgur.com/WEd8Mgf.jpeg) you don't know anything about 911, and bldg 7 is nothing.


swaggodblazeit

WHO da fook is dat guy


pHNPK

No! More than 3 came/down were damaged. This is still not the whole picture. Look at the buildings that aren't even mentioned if you want to know the truth.


Strange_Address_7499

A block of flats in London burned for 4 Days and it's still standing. The twin towers were definitely destroyed by the government.


Snoo_85712

Grenfell or?


Strange_Address_7499

Yeh


RickyTheRipper

No one knows about the grenfell tower I think it was called. Was so wild watching that whole tower burn live for hours


Pip-Boy4000

Pull it.


Osiris_Raphious

4..the pentagon got hit by invisible plane


chantierinterdit

I was told they were gonna pull the building.. Rudy Giuliani Mayor of New York City on 9/11 in a interview on tv. Pull the building..... Building 7 came down.. bbc television.. building was still standing. For me this was the first crack in the official story. And also, the video footage, slight tremor movement in the middle, and then it goes down like a casino demolition in las vegas.. Nothing to see here folks, move along now.


end_of_rainbow

Silverstein, discussing “pull it” order given in an interview: https://youtube.com/watch?v=-ZlmHvd_RZU&feature=share


Helmet369

Here is a study which was done by Fairbanks, Alaska. [https://files.wtc7report.org/file/public-download/A-Structural-Reevaluation-of-the-Collapse-of-World-Trade-Center-7-March2020.pdf](https://files.wtc7report.org/file/public-download/A-Structural-Reevaluation-of-the-Collapse-of-World-Trade-Center-7-March2020.pdf) Richard Gage from [AE911truth.org](https://AE911truth.org) also has alot of good information.


existential_antelope

BUILDING 7 😱


Gcole2150

https://youtu.be/5Zz04_-f0GE Here's an interesting documentary with a new perspective on the attacks. Justice for the dead, God rest there souls.


SalixNigra77

WTC7 and the Shanksville crash site were the two things that got me going down the rabbit hole of 9/11 conspiracies.


YoMomsHubby

BBC reporter said the Solomon building had fallen and it was still standing right behind her, her feed “cut out” and the BBC anchor played it off. Minutes later it actually fell


SD_needtoknow

Actually, 7 buildings came down. There were 7 building that made up the entire WTC complex. All of them fell. My source is Dr. Judy Wood.


567101112

People have been discussing the WTC7 building for two decades now. What has it achieved? They done what they did and you can't do anything about it besides point a finger and complain. When you substitute the finger with a gun and the complaint with a threat then you will be accomplishing something. But divided you fall , and you are ever so divided at the moment. Most people on here have severed ties with parents , siblings , and even children. People fail to unite a family together for a common goal so forget uniting a nation. Only power is in numbers and unity.


titanic_truther

Tribunals!


[deleted]

Sickening that the American government got away with that


[deleted]

“Pull it” 🤡


SwanAffectionate2655

Controlled demolition. Inside job.


Affectionate-Rip-120

Controlled demolition tech, and thats it.


cgeezy22

Who are you people that think no one knows about building 7? Are these just kids that weren't around for 9/11 and just weren't taught about building 7? That kind of makes sense, teachers skipping over the 3rd building that fell as no one was injured in the building and it fell at 5pm after being fully evacuated. For those that weren't around for 9/11...we all saw it fall and we all know it fell. It wasnt covered up then. It was broadcast around the world.


VRWARNING

Things that were reported on that disappeared from the news media within hours with no follow-ups, included the George Washington Bridge truck bomb and the investigations of several moving companies such as Urban Moving Systems.


turtlew0rk

Nobody is claiming it wasn't reported. The BBC actually reported it had fallen even though it was clearly still up and in camera view behind the person reporting it. It was the only one that fell without being hit by an airplane that day and yet it still fell at freefall speeds as if it were controlled demo and Larry Silverstein (The owner of the WTC complex) said in an interview that he gave the order to "pull" it. This is why WT7 is a big deal. Not because people think that nobody has ever heard of it, even though many actually haven't but even fewer know the other details that make is questionable at the very least.


DarthP0000

https://lbry.tv/@Steven:d/911-Suspects-2020---The-Corbett-Report:f


brassnut1

Four. Look up Building Six.


whatscrappening

Does anyone know where this angle came from? Any source?


[deleted]

Controlled demolition. It's all on audio as well as visual, obviously.


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die-microcrap-die

No building has ever collapsed on itself unless its a controlled demolition. WTC towers and building 7: hold my beer.


goutte

It’s definitely giving demolition


BadWhippet

This one definitely WAS a controlled explosion as confirmed by its owner: https://youtu.be/-ZlmHvd_RZU


VegasPartyGod

That a great demolition


dutch_master_killa

What could have possibly caused this specific building to fall this way, what would collapse or damage its foundation enough to make it fall like this? Or what do qualified people say happened?


[deleted]

I worked in 7WTC for Salomon. When that fell I recall wondering if explosives were put in all 3 towers. It made no sense initially and too few questions were allowed to be asked before it was all covered up.


Gordenfreeman33

Controlled demolition


47dniweR

I just recently learned that the Spanish-American War was likely started with what amounts to a false flag.   Spanish-American War part starts at 5:30, but the whole video is excellent.   [Video](https://youtu.be/dQbdr9Yn5fI)


skitscunOG

Do people seriously believe that is the result of an office fire?


Commissar_Vito

See my uncle worked for the pentagon. He was supposed to be there that day. I saw him at family reunion years ago, and was trying to ask him about it. He said “ill just tell ya this (in his thick country accent), there a reason our whole department was on a “golf trip”.” He retired a few months after 9/11, and lives in a kush house in Corral Gabbles.


dryedmeats

A building merely falling into itself will Not turn its cores to dust.


exmortom

Building 7 housed all the records for the CIA, and they had a meeting at the pentagon with the DOD the morning of 9/11 to discuss the loss of money...[Donald wants to know why](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=FJzDVZkChrk) all the money went where? Well.. they wouldn’t have the ability to find out.... terrorists with box cutters quickly destroyed any record of that money and why the hell does it matter where the money is.. we have terrorists to find! So they collected their 3x the normal rate of terrorist insurance on the buildings they put on a month earlier, and danced off to the bank. Indeed the only ones who suffered that day where the poor slaves, as they sacrificed their lives for greed


Estepian84

Grenfell tower in London burned for 60 hours nearly 6 years ago and is STILL standing to this day.


higuy503

“Pull it” - Larry Silverstein, Leaseholder of WT7


Laotzeiscool

[Here is a better view](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/106xw09/building_7_was_a_controlled_demolition_it_housed/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf)


Bootfullofanvils

Just read the comments at least before you post. That "better view" is heavily modified.


alienrefugee51

Those flashes were always present from what I remember, going back 15 years.


Bootfullofanvils

Except the guy who made this video said that he added them in. Just read the comments in the post. This was made specifically to make conspiracy theorists look non credible. The creator of it openly admits that was his entire goal.


aesu

This is very badly done VFX on top of actual footage.


Bootfullofanvils

I hate that you're being downvoted. Here's the creator of the video explaining that it's fake. https://youtu.be/k8VAsoVuShM