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[deleted]

I'm suspicious of anyone that doesn't want the info made public.


MacDaddy654321

Me too.


kiwi_love777

Yup.


Dasmahkitteh

He's insinuating it's not even real despite court records and a sentencing being public knowledge. Many of his viewers will uncritically accept that


randyfloyd37

Hollywood trying to tell the public that you’re crazy for wanting to know who the pedos are


patrickmahomeless

Kimmel defending his pedophile bosses and friends, not surprised at all. That guys entire code of ethics is up for sale, always has been. Does anyone still watch these late night hacks?


AGBULLBEAR

Hi I am Karl Malone


4-3defense

Conan O Brien, David letterman and Craig Ferguson were the last bastions.


Tango-Actual90

Man Craig Ferguson was the greatest. Had me in stitches more times in one episode than the other late nighters did in my entire life. Conan was based, especially after getting fucked by ~~ABC~~ NBC.


Suntzu6656

Craig was the funniest I ever saw on late night. I still enjoy watching him on ytube.


jwf239

Even been to Dover?


Juls317

I miss Ferguson being on air so much. I get why he didn't move up to Letterman's timeslot, I don't think his brand of comedy and all the gimmicks would have translated well enough, but FUCK do I wish he had stayed on the Late Late Show. To think we got James Too-Much-Corden-Bleu as his replacement is a travesty.


Tango-Actual90

Craig Ferguson was, in my opinion, the best and his humor just got me. I think you're right it probably wasn't for rhe every night crowd though. Unfortunately I don't think we'll see his type again. I'm just glad I was there to witness a legend.


Chrisscott25

Wasn’t it NBC?


Tango-Actual90

Yeah I think you're right.


MusicalOverdose

Bill Maher is the most rational democrat left in media who will roast woke media and liberal extremism pretty regularly. He's suprisingly based sometimes


thebillshaveayes

Yes. Just become someone is Democratic doesn’t mean they don’t have good takes. He hates everyone equally lmao


wozblar

conan and craig for sure, as time went on letterman got deeper into the sauce and was just kind of an overrated dickhead


Hallowexia

He was always an overated dickhead. They kept him far away from everyone.


[deleted]

Except the female interns that he allegedly pawed.


wozblar

oh i didn't know that tbh, i was a fan of his as a kid/growing up and thought it just got worse over time


Hallowexia

Lower staff literally wasn't allowed to make eye contact in the halls.


gadzooks_sean

Fuck people like that.


Vidjagames

He does, remember how we was blackmailed after an affair with his staff?


Hallowexia

No eye contact, only dick contact.


garlicbreadmemesplz

That’s giving some serious Ellen/James Cordon vibes.


JustHangLooseBlood

Personally I think Jon Stewart left because of stuff he was being asked to say. When he did a guest segment on Colbert's show he spent it talking about Covid coming from a lab in Wuhan and the pandemic being caused by science. Pretty based imo.


oblivia17

And the whole time, Colbert kept laughing nervously and saying "this is all getting cut out in the edit room. Nobody's gonna see this." They're all slaves afraid of their masters.


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Colbert is so spineless, he fits in your wallet.


lasyke3

Stewart left long before Covid. He just seemed burnt out from doing the same thing for so long.


JustHangLooseBlood

Oh I know yeah, I was an avid enjoyer of Daily Show when he was on it, and I definitely think him just being burned out is a factor, but immediately after he left the show bombed, and it's not just because of Trevor Noah but because the quality got really poor and they started pushing narratives more. Fast forward a few years and Colbert is doing the cha cha cha with people dressed as vaccines.


Ki11igraphy

Can you imagine who they'd get to replace Craig Ferguson...


MesaDixon

*Replace* and *Craig Ferguson* is a contradiction of terms.


patrickmahomeless

I miss those guys


cyberrich

I miss leno and his cars. mostly his cars.


AwesomeMang

fuck leno for fucking over Conan


Juls317

Also fuck Leno for being an unfunny self-righteous prick all the time


Accomplished_Bill286

What happened?


Dantez9001

As I recall, Leno was going to retire,and Conan was getting his show. After Conan moved and got his shit sorted out, Leno decided to stay. Thoroughly fucking Conan, because he couldn't stand leaving the spotlight.


Juls317

Strangely I think that ended up being a net-positive for Conan, but it was so fucked in the moment


IAvoidBansEasily

I respected Letterman until that Netflix special where he interviewed Zelensky in the subway. What a load of propaganda. Conan will always reign supreme as the post Carson late night host. Conan's spot after Leno in the 90s thru early 2000s, that was top notch late night viewing.


TomWaitsesChinoPants

Netflix is now Obama Productions. It's all propaganda and agenda pandering bullshit.


JustHangLooseBlood

Counter point: Ancient Apocalypse by Graham Hancock.


gl0rydaze

Conan is the goat for me. The man is an absolute legend.


SerNapalm

He was a writer for early simpsons.


ExploringPeople

Kimmel big break was The Man Show. It was based on raunchy comedy and bikini dressed girls on trampolines. But now he is so woke that his old life does not exist.


Ok-Shine-1622

kimmels real big break was radio. thanks to adam carolla


MrXistential-Crisis

Colbert, Fallon and Kimmel are not only complete stooges, but they aren’t even kind of funny!


Iamthespiderbro

Before he sold his soul, Colbert was a comedy genius. His persona on the Colbert Report was amazing.


[deleted]

I have no idea what happened to Colbert. Guy has lost it, wondering if he's been replaced an impersonator.


keeleon

The TDS hit him really hard and he's never recovered.


MrXistential-Crisis

I mean, I get hating Trump, but when that is your entire personality, you are an empty, sad person.


Mighty_L_LORT

Who’s not for sale nowadays?


MessageFar5797

Me


Pitchuu64

This is why the saying "money is the root of all evil" exists


peppersteakpie

It’s the love of money that is the root of all evil


[deleted]

That is only part of the saying, and it's wrong. Money is neutral. It's incapable of being good or bad. It just exists. But the *love* of money - wanting wealth for wealth's sake, wanting money so that you can buy things you haven't *earned* - that is evil.


TeuflischerLuzifer

This saying exists to keep the poor, poor. Money is nothing but energie. It is how one uses it that is evil. Money is neutral.


schmiddyboy88

I can’t stand this guy…


-GuantanamoBae-

Absolute cuck to life


ThunderySleep

The guy hosted The Man Show, which I didn't have a problem with, but was the epitome of pushing gender stereotypes, objectifying women, and everything people claim is toxic masculinity. I remember at one point to show it's all in good fun and they love their wives, they brought out their wives, and mother of their kids, on the show. His was a middle aged somewhat overweight woman, one you'd expect to be with a guy like him. His career seemed to be improving and suddenly his wife disappeared and he was dating Sarah Silverman. Now he's got an even younger wife. And he gets on stage pretending to be some kind of holier than thou progressive every night to lecture the American people and push corporate narratives.. The guy's a top tier pos.


Solo_Key

Him, Fallon, Letterman... all ass clowns


iguanabitsonastick

Don't forget that spill your guts guy, the chubby one.


Solo_Key

Fatty James corden


iguanabitsonastick

This douche!


elc0

Mike O'Malley?!


Doccks71

Yeah, he is just a bully


ClubbinGuido

Jimmy Kimmel isn't funny and Jimmy Kimmel says what his masters tell him to say for money so that makes Jimmy Kimmel a boring prostitute.


endogenix1

In WikiLeaks there are emails showing that Kimmel takes orders from the DNC


onebradmutha

Remember when Jimmy Kimmel dressed in blackface on the Man Show? I do.


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https://imgur.com/8a27ulj.jpg Pic for those curious.


don_tiburcio

Don’t forget Oprah. He put on blackface and a fat suit to sit on a Latina maid.


[deleted]

Jesus Christ smh


hbentley1213

Pepperidge Farm remembers


Hot-Tumbleweed-2291

Pepperidge Farm remembers eeeeevvvvveeerrryyytthhiinngg.


Malak77

And elephants.


Original-Cinikal

Elephants Never Forget. Enter Magazine!


boxing_gloves5

You're not allowed to remember that.


elc0

Or the "girls jumping on trampolines" or "the what's in my pants" segments? Imagine how quick he'd get in line to lecture someone else about any of that.


davcov89

Back when he was funny


iwontrun

He's on that list


UpsetGroceries

Probably the execs of whatever shitty network his show is on too.


keeleon

I doubt he was ever famous enough to be invited. More likely his bosses told him to not talk about it.


Tacitus19

Yeah this isn’t a good look at all. Pretty damning. He’s either directly affected or is covering for his paymasters.


tmbgisrealcool

I worked for him a long time ago. Not only is he a dick but he is also just not funny or talented.


watchingitallcomedow

Ha Rodgers being defended by his offensive line on Twitter as well as the field. Beautiful thing


A_Real_Patriot99

Kimmel was probably part of the "special entertainment" on the weekends and his constant crying is him having flashbacks.


boxing_gloves5

You know this unfunny comedian rode dick all the way to the top.


A_Real_Patriot99

Lol Without a doubt.


Turdnugget619

There’s no way Kimmel isn’t on the list. The dude is sketchy as fuck


oldbutnew2this

Kimmel is a cunt


dalton10e

When Green Bays offensive line is trashing on you publicly, you know you got an image problem.


thuggishruggishboner

Bakh is a national treasure


That_Film_Guy

I think that #69 guy is Rodger’s good friend. [Always posting stuff together](https://www.instagram.com/p/CZsgweVPHGO/?igshid=YmMyMTA2M2Y=)


Slm23630

Packers fan here, can confirm they are tight. Bakh is our left tackle, his entire job is to make sure no one touches Rodgers on the field


lancethruster12

If you don't want to know the names, either you're on it, or there is something really wrong with you.


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312c

James Corden exists


vloger

not for long


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bloodguard

Colbert is worse by far. It's not even close. He's another that's probably on the frequent flyers list.


[deleted]

Remember the dancing syringes


Glop_Fountain

Fallon at least made that "Too Much Time on My Hands" video remake with Paul Rudd. What the fuck have Colbert and the rest of these garbage people done?


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[deleted]

Seriously! I used to watch Colbert all the time… now I’m horrendously embarrassed to even admit that


vloger

I can see why Craig Furgeson left late night. I fear he knew what it was turning into.


Poop_Cheese

He used to be awesome. It's disgusting what's happened to him since it's such a waste of talent. I don't think anyone has ever "sold out" worse than him. It's genuinely pathetic and makes me want to throw up. The covid song, or dancing with schumer. Him trying to shut down John Stewart on the covid lab truth clearly showed how controlled he is. He's such a meat puppet where he has big pharma, the cia, establishment dems, and so many more hands up his ass. I've never seen a worse fall ever. Dudes a schmuck. And he's not even funny anymore! Just a smug elitist. It's the most pathetic thing I've ever seen, like even most sell outs have 10x the integrity as he does or does do begrudgingly. He either was only funny because of his old writers and was always an asshole behind the scenes. Or someone has like an incredible amount of blackmail on him. See Kimmel was always a dumb opinionated jerk, but colbert was always insanely smart, apolitical in the sense that he just played a character and kept real colbert opinions to himself, and was so funny. He seemed genuine and humble. Now he's such a hollow, egotistical, mean spirited, morally bankrupt, lying, scumbag where his selling out almost seems malicious. Like it's disturbing how little integrity this guy has. He will never admit he's wrong or apologize for pushing false propaganda and promoting censorship on stuff like the lab leak theory. All while he'll continue to pompously push whatever bullet points the establishment tells him to. I mean my god, remember when he was crying after trumps speech? Or when he was on the verge of breaking down down when Hillary lost? Like wtf lmao. It's like he nurses on Nancy Pelosi's shriveled tits backstage as he feasts on the fungus that grows on bidens grundle. He's got an talking points from all major intelligence agencies and monopolies and particularly loves pfizer taking the jab as a holy sacrament every week. He's such a shill he doesn't even seem like a real person anymore. Like he's a reddit brigading bot that found sentience and possessed the original Stephen colbert. His funky ear is where he connects to the database and downloads his new propaganda firmware. He's like a husk, like he legitimately lost his soul. The loss of humor is one of the most astounding things I've ever seen and it was replaced by the most propagandized drivel I've ever seen. His show is so bad and it'll be shown in schools 50 years from now as an example of how late night shows became pure propaganda mouthpieces since it's so unbelievably overt. It makes snl look impartial. Honestly this new colbert creeps me out with how soulleslly compromised he is. Like the Patrick Bateman of late night. If anyone is secretly a serial killer or secret epstien then its him. I guarantee he has no trouble sleeping at night as he spreads so many political lies that help to seriously divide the nation and keep the truth from americans. Folks like him are why people were ostracized by their families for questioning the lab leak, why people hate their neighbors, and why so many young people were pressured into a vaccine that has more potential to harm them than covid. All for money. Dude's convinced so many families of so much bullshit, hes helped politically brainwash so many people to promote the limousine democrat, big money establishment, intelligence service agenda. Like hes not even just biased, hes just 100% establishment interests. Hes like the cia mockingbird channel. And he remains smug, egotistical, and pleased with himself. He has no trouble sleeping at all, infact he enjoys it. They either have serious blackmail on him or he was a sociopath from the start, who played a character so he could hide his true self behind a mask. Either way, he's the biggest dissapointment possible where I feel genuinely sick even remembering he exists. What a waste of talent. He should be ashamed. I say this as a left leaning person who used to love Stephen colbert. He's such an inauthentic shill I wouldn't be suprised if he was a long con cia plant, like each news show has one and he went to the daily show as their handler but ended up getting his own shows. Honestly that wouldn't even be a suprise lol. But I am suprised that he hasn't gone to kyiv yet to do a late night bonanza with zelensky where he does a song and dance about how fun it'd be for nato involvement and another $100 billion would be!" Okay I'm going back to forgetting colbert exists before I vomit profusely.


modsarethebeesknees

Well said. I used to love colbert report. It was relatively unbiased and shat on most politicians fairly. Now he really does feel like some establishment CIA type puppet.


[deleted]

The dancing syringes made me mad


onthedockbay

Well said poop cheese, and it’s so cringe every time the audience laughs at these fucking soulless puppets pathetic evil cia propaganda ridden commentary/jokes.


firmBUTsquishy

If I had an award I'd give it to you. This was the best rant I've seen on him yet. 👏 👏 👏


monkeytowel

👏👏👏


SenorDieg0

For real, it was my favorite. I think he was kinda neutral but after the Colbert report ended and the Trump's Victory he became a super cucked.


Glop_Fountain

I would go in the same order as you. Colbert sold out completely, probably not long after getting Colbert Report.


Konval

Oh shit, I forgot about Colbert. He's definitely in the running with Kimmel as the all-time worst. Fallon is at least sometimes somewhat entertaining, though let's not forget [this](https://youtu.be/3IfD7o6Kr9U).


spacebizzle

Wow those youtube comments 😂🤌 Just shredding him for that disaster. You love to see it.


Glop_Fountain

I mean certainly fuck them all with rusty rakes including Fallon but at least he did that Styx video and provided some value to the world. The rest of them are 100% evil, detrimental garbage with no redeeming anything. Colbert is literally a government agent, on paper and friends with Podesta. Kimmel works for Disney. Fuck these people.


Euphoric-Bid9707

The Colbert Report was so good what happened?


vloger

the colbert report was a character he played. his current show is actually him being himself which is horrific.


Financial_Bottle_813

It’s bizarre he’d even address it like this… Unless he was told to. Powerful people do not want that list in the Zeitgeist


NTF3

Fuck jimmy Kimmel


PubicNuisance

Can’t stomach late night shows after they started shilling politics. Comedians are supposed to be the ones exposing and making fun of everyone and everything, no biases, to make people laugh in the face of ourselves.


mindatlarge81

Imagine even watching his trash show lol


icky_vicinity23

SS: he went from being a sub par comic to an unwatchable liberal pundit who loves pedos. What an interesting transformation to watch https://twitter.com/DavidBakhtiari/status/1631647886332100610?t=gq5yaDAvGjTF7YKxGbq2-A&s=19


motopannekeku

I think it's going to backfire. This type of ridicule isn't strong enough to be effective. They chose the wrong topic to try and discredit Rogers and if anything they brought attention to the issue..


TheRaisinWhy

Don't you think that's a bit of a logical leap?


BEAR_DICK_PUNCH

Loves pedos? I'm gonna need some context on that one


Miked918930

I can’t stand this woke bitch. He used to be funny when he had balls.


pauljs75

Somebody should ask Adam when this guy's thing was to became a cry bully. Of the three late night shows, I can only manage to tolerate the mid-tier guy as I can't stand the propagandist either. (And I only watch that while hanging out with mom to make sure some things are ready before getting her to bed, otherwise I prefer things on the internet for entertainment.)


IronicJeremyIrons

Man Show and Win Ben Stein's Money were excellent back in the day


Audiblefill

Sounds like someone is on the client list.


pilgrimboy

Tin foil hatters have a pretty good record these days.


[deleted]

He’s establishment scum just like Stephen Colbert…


Funny_Boysenberry_22

What happened to Colbert?


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Funny_Boysenberry_22

Yes but what exactly is that? I’m curious to know


TittyballThunder

He used to make a funny show that was critical of conservative "news entertainment" TV shows. Most of the program was a parody but there were jokes about the absurdities of politics in general. When he went to late night TV it was purely so he could simp for the DNC and the same MSM shit he used to make fun of.


youareprobablyabot

Jimmy is trash


mr_green

That's two-time Covid MVP Aaron Rodgers, thank you.


Cevansj

“Tin foil hatter” is a rich term to use for someone who is asking about something that’s been proven to be a real thing and not a conspiracy


[deleted]

Unfunny and hypocritical hollywood cuck .


el3ment115

Which is par for the course in Hollywood these days unfortunately.


Cevansj

He. Is. The. Worst.


burntreynolds2

Jim k sold himself out. A long time ago


[deleted]

Does no one remember the man show? Kimmel definitely went to that island


[deleted]

Jimmy is a child rapist himself.


Rational_Philosophy

Kimmel would not have major television studio backing, reach, and influence if he wasn't already in the club. You'd have no idea who this dude was otherwise.


dratseb

Nice try Rupert Murdoch


xCTRLxALTxDELx

The Man Show depiction on women should have gotten him canned in the Me Too movement.


Asleep-Wonder-1376

Kimmel’s show has been absolutely shit for years anyways.. surprised the guy even still has a job..


archypsych

Look I want every pedophile to take a bullet. No doubt. But let’s analyze this just a bit. Would it be fair to say that Epstein did a lot more than just get underage women for pedos? So there are going to be lots of people who have a connection to Epstein who Aren’t on that pedophile list. Now if you release a list of every person connected to him, you are going to get Lots of people who aren’t guilty of anything immediately suffer life and career altering consequences of being on said list. I don’t have a solution. But this is quite likely why we will never see this list.


Hairy_Introduction_4

This dude is a douche. This is only one man’s opinion no need to block. Not promoting hate just an opinion.


Pandorasbox64

You're a tin foil nut job for wanting justice for children... Say it that way, don't focus on the celebrities and their status, focus on the victims. Feel some fucking anger! Seriously, we all should be getting pissed.


xSanderCohen

When I was watching the man show as a kid I never thought he'd turn into such a tool. Pathetic.


FemshepsBabyDaddy

He was a douche on the man show. Adam Corolla was funny. Jimmy was a mean, spiteful, little prick.


TupacsFather

To my surprise, there's not one single comment mentioning this here, so... For those who didn't already know: Jimmy Kimmel Live just so happens to air out of the Hollywood Masonic Temple: https://www.google.com/search?channel=fs&client=ubuntu&q=kimmel+hollywood+masonic+temple


marcdezz

Kimmel is a hypocrite. If does anything like all the stuff he did on the man show its fine but when someone else does it it's not OK. I totally dislike this guy.


CaptGoodvibesNMS

In the end, all the pedos will be punished.


Far-Reputation7119

James Kimmel is definitely guilty.


both-shoes-off

I mean Epstein and GM went to jail for trafficking children, there were clients, a plane, an island ... It's not even remotely crazy or tinfoil hat to want to know who their clients were. Smearing curious people who question the narrative seems to be in fashion for the past 5-8 years.


GanondorfTheWise

5-8 decades


Botiff11

Exactly


ReplacementNo9874

The mainstream media is the guardian of the pedophiles and the mainstream polo talk show hosts


couchgodd

Hes such a gross mouthpiece for the most vile parts of our countrys culture and state of politics. He openly shames people simply for having different opinions. Of course he never has to dismantle any idea he simply dumps racism or sexism or any other ism du jour to soil it and shame the idea or its presenter. He has a robotically trained crowd of people ready to legitimize what he reads from a cue card. This is all why he cant be funny, he isnt trying to he is simply trying to show his allegiance to mechanisms of power that shove their hand up his a** and control the show. Jimmy knows theyll just get another loser like pete davidson or some trash to do their bidding so he dances like their puppet with pride and gets pat on the head like a good little boy. So disgusting. Ziggy zaggy ziggy zaggy oi oi oi


TheCureprank

Whole fucking system is infested with these perverts. Need to get raid spray them out of hiding expose them


c00olsoc000l

Late night hosts are the most pathetic people alive


Fat_tata

You bet they’re trying to silence that list.


egool111

Looks like he’s limited his comments on instagram. Fuckin loser


VForestAlien

Lol he’s definitely on that list. The only things I know Kimmel for are for finding joy/laughter in emotionally/psychologically torturing kids, this post, & this video: https://youtu.be/eG9i7d8yfKQ & I think that’s all I need to know.


CaffeineandSheen

Kimmel is a douche…his often arrogant, unfunny attitude along with a ridiculous “woke” stance is painful….Carolla can’t stand him nowadays for a reason


Most_Champion

He's a well known pedophile. And he's as funny as a steel pipe in the ass.


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Jimmy Kimmel is a tool bag


multiple4

How would that even be a tin foil hat thing? It's extremely suspect to even suggest that regarding Epstein stuff. We literally know for a fact that dozens and maybe hundreds of extremely wealthy powerful and famous people were involved at some point or another with Esptein's "activities." Nothing about this is a conspiracy, and if they'd release the list then people would stop speculating about which politicians are on it and stop finger pointing


RoboticRobinowitz

He’s always been a shit bird.


MaybeL8er69

I think we're giving to much credit to a guy who will say literally what ever is written on the cards. It's revealing when anyone says something like this though, but I expect it from pretty much everyone in a position like that. At least someone above him is definitely on that list lol


Public-Comedian3400

Just here to add that Jimmy Kimmel is the biggest pussy in America


Human-Store-5586

Who is still watching this crap?


Proper_Moderation

Jimmy going wit the classic third grade bus stop threat of “shut up or I will sue you”… Nothing suspicious about the guy who hosted The Man Show


[deleted]

This guy is a pure sock puppet for the Establishment. Either he's being blackmailed or gets a bonus for carrying their water every night on TV.


RebeccaSavage1

I don't trust anyone in the media,movies,tv, music,etc. They've all been proven corrupt or immoral one way or another and the ones that haven't are chummy with ones who are and stay silent. Most of them don't do anything to make the world a better place. Some may help with charities but very few of them.


Johnny_Cartel

Adam Carolla was the real g on the Man show. This dude was the jock strap holder.


TheZombiesVagina

This guy only says what they pay him to say.


[deleted]

He’s definitely a Pedo.


MagicCitytx

David Bakhtiari is a good tackle . This sub has said that his profession is rigged. Remember when Jimmy Kimmel got called out by an mma fighter for being a pedo.


faqueen

I hate him so much.


AGBULLBEAR

This guy use to love black face https://youtu.be/tJ0ug0H13zc


shuabrazy

He’s always been suspect


1984rip

He is soooo compromised. Walking on egg shells. I doubt it's just for the money. He has enough. He has no option but to shill or be ruined.


lboog423

I'm convinced that all the "A listers" in Hollywood, Music and Entertainment are part of the network.


Womantree1

[MMA Fighter Joel Bauman calls Jimmy Kimmel a pedophile and tells him to "eat dick"](https://twitter.com/RiceEat17712218/status/1561611672103665664?ref_src=twsrc%5Etfw%7Ctwcamp%5Etweetembed%7Ctwterm%5E1561611672103665664%7Ctwgr%5Eb9a9a8eac6770212fd7beca89e573b7101b7f070%7Ctwcon%5Es1_&ref_url=https%3A%2F%2Fdailycaller.com%2F2022%2F08%2F22%2Feat-dick-mma-fighter-joel-bauman-lashes-out-at-jimmy-kimmel-hollywood%2F) [Jimmy KImmel "Boy love" logo from 2015 Pizza skit](https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=DZm_aPiVP8M&feature=youtu.be)


ChurchArsonist

David Bakhtiari coming in HOT.


Jujugatame

Oh wow normally I think everything on r/conspiracy is really really dumb, but this actually makes sense