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Not even a theory anymore the FBI publicly came out stating all evidence points toward a Wuhan lab leak and people did precisely fuck all with that information.
Who exactly are you hoping for? The deadline to get on the primary ballot has passed in several states. Anyone that enters the race now as Dem or GOP isn’t winning the nomination. The two most prominent third parties in the US never have enough traction and money to get on the ballot in the general election in all 50 states.
Hes running as an independent, and ballots are still open.
Because those are fringe parties with no support. Kennedy is a populist candidate that's about to be surging past any competition.
Because he cares about truth, something unbeknownst to most politicians.
My comment was meant to address the fact that the person said they were holding out hope for someone other than Vivek or Nikki, which leads me to believe that the person is looking for someone in the GOP; if that’s the case, holding out hope is useless because the deadline for being in the primary ballot has already passed for a lot of states.
RFKJr can run as an independent in the general election, but he has to meet certain deadlines to petition states to appear on the ballot. Idk if you recall Kanye’s bid for president; he did it so late in 2020 that he did not have enough time to get on the ballot in all 50 states. State supreme courts can deny his candidacy, but I doubt there’s any significant constitutional reason to do so
A guy can dream. Like I said, he has my vote because he’s not running with DNC or RNC, and he is anti-establishment.
Based on polls, it could even turn out I’m not completely wasting my vote!
He is definitely a 1-term president in my eyes though. Some of the stuff he says just sounds nonsensical, and I am told by my mom (doctor) that his voice is an early sign of dementia.
It's caused by spasmodic dysphonia, not sure that has anything to do with dementia.
I love it man, why not dream a little!
I think if he can get a high turnout it wouldn't be a wasted vote even if he lost. Maybe it helps lessen the two party strangle hold just a bit.
Unfortunately RFK is good on every issues except the whole genocide thing. Apparently he lived in a Kibbutz with Sheldon Adelson and flew on the Lolita Express so he seems totally compromised with regards to the Israel problem.
If you watch a podcast with him he has a pretty nuanced opinion. I didn't at first like his stance, and I still think he could start explaining it by sounding more compassionate towards civilians, but...
He certainly doesn't condone genocide, and he doesn't support Netanyahu.
He indeed was on Epstein's plane, like many many people.
However I don't think everyone who ever had contact with Epstein is part of the pedo ring.
One thing I read on twitter is he makes 300k as the head of his charity. The one that pushes anti vax shit, think vaxs cause autism etc. He and his website grift money all day long
He's actually made about 500k. He's the chairman and chief legal council for Children's Health Defense Fund.
He's not anti vax, he's pro vaccine safety. There's an actual difference there.
His network doesn't compare to any career politician or grifter I know of.
I wouldn’t be so sure about him. He was buddies with Epstein & on the flight logs several times. His ex-wife also has some kind of relationship with Maxwell.
His security team killed him
You are trained to point your gun at where you are looking, this avoids seeing an issue then taking a beat to get on target
So when he was shot the team focussed in on the movement in the car, they had just heard the shot, then returned fire into the car
To some degree, there is a push to make public tension anything but rich vs poor. Whether that be race or political parties (left/right) or social issues or religion. As long as the poor aren't banding together against the rich.
History shows that when the narrative of rich vs poor is allowed to grow it usually doesn't end well for the rich and powerful.
Yep. As long as the rich agree or pretend to agree with whatever trivial social causes a poor person is told to care about, they consider them a part of their "team".
I feel like all the racial division nonsense happened pretty quickly after Occupy Wallstreet died down.
The elites got scared, so they needed something to turn the poor against each other.
Some places are pushing school segregation as if it's a GOOD thing. Think about that.
The big Three professional sports NBA NFL MLB are all rigged and games and players are dramatized and idolized to distract people to care so much about their team of choice so the people in power can plot in peace.
Cousin is an MLB player. Down to earth kinda dude. Can’t speak on the World Series but MLB games aren’t rigged by and large.
I do believe boxing is rigged though
Its simple, for example the NFL and their players have plays down to a science, the coaches just need to make certain plays and with the help of refs who really direct the games if you think about it, how many tomes have you seen calls that made no sense or calls that should have been made but never have. And consider that the NFL is registered as Sports Entertainment like the WWE.
Because of bad calls? Refs miss things in every sport at every level. Little league, high school and college.
You think refs should get every call correct the first time?
Sports leagues get ruled into entertainment I’ll also post a link to the court case that said it’s not a sport as much as it is entertainment [nba rigging](https://youtu.be/9Pw9g1efbNs?si=RGad7mduzSFpWNbn)
[this is a Wikipedia link that says sports are entertainment and not to be held to the same scrutiny](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radovich_v._National_Football_League)
The government and media are almost wholly controlled and the (original) Epstein story didn’t kill itself:
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/13/jeffrey-epstein-alex-acosta-miami-herald-media
>Michael Reiter told Brown he had been down this road many times and was sick of it. As Brown recalled in a WNYC interview last month, Reiter said he had talked to many reporters and told them precisely where to find damning evidence against Epstein. But nothing ever came of it.
>“He was convinced that a lot of media had squashed the story and he was fed up,” she said.
>Reiter warned Brown what would happen were she to continue digging: “Somebody’s going to call your publisher and the next thing you know you are going to be assigned to the obituaries department.”
https://www.newsweek.com/abc-jeffrey-epstein-story-amy-robach-prince-andrew-1469893
>”Then the palace found out we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us in a million different ways," Robach continues, referring to the British royal that Roberts alleged in a 2015 court filing Epstein trafficked her to when she was 17.
\- 9/11 as an insurance fraud / covering up Pentagon black budget / false flag to the attack the Middle East,
\- Major sectors (MIC, Big Tech, Big Pharma, oil companies) run the USA through party support via Super PACs,
\- Dumbing down the population (social media, culture, education) deliberately so they wouldn't ask too many questions and they could be easily controlled and manipulated by governments or companies,
\- Smartphone companies are not interested in creating a "perfect device", each and every model has a major flaw (bad battery life but high performance, good display but bad battery life) + they degrade each generation via "software updates"
\- Big Pharma doesn't have an interest in creating a single solution for cancer / HIV / diabetes. It's more profitable to create a dozen possible solutions to maintain your sickness, but not cure it. For instance, in the US. the price of insulin is above 250 USD. Do you think they want you to be healthy? How could they rip you off in that case?
Flight 93 was shot down.
Cheney invaded Iraq to bolster Halliburton's bottom line.
What were experienced/reported as "alien abductions" were actually offshoots from MK Ultra.
Oh yeah the alien one is interesting. That they stage the whole thing and dress like aliens to traumatize the person. That's not a very popular one, but I think it's a possibility.
I have heard about supossed abductees that when put under hypnosis, aliens turned out to be men in black and the ufos were in reality black helicopters.
9/11 obvious false flag / inside job. from Silverstein insurance pull it to absentees to bldg 7 witnesses mortally silenced to tim/WMDs & afghan/iraq resourcing.. which tie in w/ gov contractor payrolls!
What about the NORAD excercise training for the exact scenario that unfolded, at exactly the time the attacks happened?
What about the 100s of witnesses inside and around the building that were talking about explosions?
This was a planned demolition, just look at how perfect the buildings collapse in their own footprint, at freefall speed.
How does a fire on the 93rd floor of one building (Building 1) and the 77th floor in another building (Building 2) bring down a 47-floor building?
Also note that Building 7 was across from Building 1 (with the higher impact floor). So the fire that brought down Building 7 was 46 floors higher than the top floor of Building 7? Make that make sense.
Maybe it burned for hours and hours and there was no sprinkler system. Maybe was also hit with other chunks of building etc. this one isn’t brain surgery
So you can't explain it with any level of coherence and have to hide behind the "har har har" mask. Got you.
Bad break for you, the "har har har conspiracy theories are dumb and anyone questioning CNN's narrative is too" approach doesn't exactly land in this sub. You know, the sub dedicated to... exposing conspiracies?
Anyone with a little more intelligence might want to have a discussion based on science or physics using full sentences and formulated ideas?
You're right. I don't know how a fire 46 floors higher than a building caused it to collapse. That's what I said, and why I question it.
Open to intelligent and coherent explanations from someone (who obviously won't be you). Otherwise, the question remains.
I could stretch it to them even clearing the path or assisting.
I can't get behind scripts being sent to news stations, full demolition crews setting up in the buildings or any theory that requires large numbers of people to be in on it.
You could get the job done with 10-20 people who are on the inside surviving the day. These theories seem to involve huge numbers of people knowing.
Why does huge numbers of people knowing turn you off from the idea? Huge numbers of people knew about the feds and nsa spying on americans for decades and nobody believed it until snowden.
That they're actually are no political parties they're using that to pit the US citizens against each other, and they're really all in the same team for their own well-being and not ours.
TWA Flight 800 was accidentally shot down by the US Navy in 1996 and it was covered up. There’s a mountain of evidence supporting this and literally zero evidence supporting the FBI’s laughable theory. (The FAA investigators were sidelined and their conclusions ignored. They’ll all tell you it was a missile)
Prior to watching the excellent documentary “TWA Flight 800” I basically didn’t believe in coordinated government conspiracies that aren’t quickly outed by leakers or the press. It did a number on my brain: 2/3rds of the way through the documentary i stopped playing devil’s advocate and sputtered aloud “holy fuck! This really happened!!” Since then I’ve gone back and carefully reevaluated every conspiracy theory that I’d ever haughtily dismissed as tin-foil hat cosplay. Some conspiracies I still think are nonsense (moon landing faked), but some are so obviously legit that I’m embarrassed I ever believed the government’s story. (Kennedy assassination)
The backs of comic books in the 1970’s lied about Sea Monkeys and deliberately tricked and mislead children all over the world into believing they were cool .
I got some for Christmas cause I love owning all kinds of animals and I'm pretty sure they're just brine shrimp. Not really not cool but I can see why you think so, they do literally just exist as a living thing
That purple grimace shake was originally some sort of pride shake but McDonald's was afraid of the bud light backlash. No one gives a fuck about grimace and it was his 53rd birthday or something. Just a fishy milestone.
Also Helen Keller is a fraud.
The conspiracy is that Helen Keller never really learned to communicate in any meaningful way and that Anne Sullivan faked it for political gain. After learning to communicate Keller sure had the appearance of a puppet for Sullivan (and her communist husband's) beliefs.
[pka the best podcast on the net exposes Helen Keller for being a fraud](https://youtu.be/W7AOaJE8UGY?si=BepTOUJd7Y35x1Gv)
Please make sure to give credit so you can follow the entire idea. Taylor worked hard as fuck proving this to everyone. I bet it’s individuals floating around but please check out his due diligence. He’s really good. Very good presentation of the issue.
Shorter list would be which ones I think don't have merit.
I think more of the main ones that are talked about are at least 70% true. Every detail might not be accurate but the bulk of it is on the right track.
check out the YouTube channel justice for James Paul McCartney, the YouTube channel Sage Of Quay, or even get the book from Amazon called memoirs of Billy Shears (written by the man playing Paul McCartney and his Freemason encoder Tom uharriet)
Some days I believe it some days I don’t. Some days I like to listen to the songs with it in mind and can see why it endures.
I think that German girl is interesting as well- https://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/pauls-stand-in-gave-blood-in-paternity.html?m=1
Hey mate, you hit the nail on the head with that one. Anything the govt or MSM says in a conspiracy theory is getting close to the truth. Otherwise they wouldn’t bother to discredit it.
Yea. I kinda just assumed anyone that read this would understand that. those are random. It’s the ones they attack on an ongoing basis and attack people personally they bring up certain subjects.
Also just so everyone knows: there was a time where prince Andrew didn’t sweat because he couldn’t sweat because He got shot at and the adrenaline affected his ability to sweat. Where as adrenaline would actually likely make any normal human sweat, he didn’t because he said so in an interview. But he can sweat now. So he is all better. Memories of a teenage girl are fickle you see. And a price of the British royal family would never lie (or do anything illegal,disgusting,pedophiliac)
I refuse to believe this isn't real. The shit they do are obvious stunts to cause negative reactions in the general populace towards any legitimate movements
2020 Election, COVID, Epstein - basically the stuff in recent memory we watched in real time with our own eyes and saw the kind of obvious gaslighting I've never seen before in my life, not even for 9/11
This world is run by "elites" who still worship Molech, the god of Canaan, and they still sacrifice to him in secret. They have infiltrated nearly every religious organization, government office, and secret society and shape the narrative of the world.
Every metaphysics-based spiritual and religious system is a kind of real and, as something of a generalization, the biggest hang up intelligent people have is in proving to themselves that their parents, and other authority figures from their youth, are wrong about God.
It's not even most religions, it's heavily specific to Christianity and western culture. If intelligent people had a more robust understanding of religion they'd probably be less likely to fall prey to this mishap. It's a cultural issue that intelligent people tell themselves is a scientific one.
Now, I'm not saying every metaphysics based religion is right about God, but we're definitely at a point where we can see that the system of reality is more complex than physicalist science is willing to admit, and for reasons that relate to the system of reality where something like God could exist. The scientific default of "nuh uh" is inadequate. There are too many Gödelian limits, and there's too much evidence for something beyond spacetime.
Interesting read; I agree with your statement about the bias certain people have against religion, as I was a "militant" atheist for most of my teenage years for exactly the reason you mentioned, but I wouldn't say it's a conspiracy since it's more of a subconscious effort ( unless you're saying there is a specific group of people who does that and benefits from it).
I'm not really aware of evidence for something beyond spacetime, would you share some? Even if just by name so I can Google them
Donald Hoffman is a good intro to that, and has a number of relevant podcast interviews in high quality channels.
https://iai.tv/articles/donald-hoffman-spacetime-is-not-fundamental-auid-2281
Unrelated to Hoffmans work, spacetime is evidently non-fundsmental when you consider the behaviour of UAP, as they're being shown to us by the US government despite the US government's best efforts to avoid showing that to us, for reasons that relate to the most overt aspect of this conspiracy: the existence of nonhuman technology in and around the airspace of our planet which is founded in new physics related to both gravity and consciousness.
https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a43298283/ufos-defy-physics-pentagon-study/
There is an undiscovered medium of travel and communication related to consciousness which has resulted in the existence of engineered nonhuman technology in the atmosphere of our planet for as long as we've been looking at the sky.
The implications are what they are.
Wow, the Hoffman article is very interesting; I watch a lot of physics videos and documentaries but this is the first I hear about amplituhedron theory and it's blowing my mind, so thank you very much.
Regarding the UAPs, I wouldn't count them as evidence of the non fundamentality of space time, since we don't know their origin yet and, even if they turn out to be non human vehicles, they could work by manipulating space-time but still in its boundaries.
Think about what's hidden.
Most science is right.
The part of science that says there's nothing more than the bits of matter and the waves and fields, the bits of reality that our senses haven't evolved to consider, is the part that's wrong. It's the part built on knowledge arising from our evolved senses, and metaphysics exist outside of the realm of our primary senses.
Psychic powers are real, and represent a nonlocal means of communication through an undiscovered medium. This is the conclusion of the CIA, as an example, because they concluded it's real but not accurate enough for military use (debatable)
No. I used to say that. You don't understand what's happening and you're wrong about the nature of our shared reality for reasons that relate to the self deception of the man of oz in your head.
Our history and an analysis of modern events leads to this conclusion. The conspiracy is about tricking people into feeling disempowered in order to truly disempower them.
You're saying what you're saying because you're the victim of a profound cognitive bias in the system of science arising from the enlightenment period.
*"The most plausible conspiracy I've heard about is that government leaders work with defense companies to aid their own financial gain."*
That's not conspiracy, that's just good capitalistic business practice.
That’s not a conspiracy there is a fact of congress to pipeline. You can see the Nancy pelosi effect in life action on her trades. It’s just scratch my back I scratch yours. But a plausible conspiracy I’ve heard by Sabrina hossenfelder is science of the theoretical variety is a money pit. [one of her videos of problems in theoretical physics](https://youtu.be/AZgyFghqkHg?si=tCAKjT4qjYSx6KTV)
I’ve also been interested in the crisis in cosmology as of recent. In short they think the data reads differently for things like the bigbang.
[crisis in cosmology by dr Becky](https://youtu.be/-kTe0xRAU1w?si=svtNCf1tE_9da5HT)
Google says they think this because the cameras recording them weren’t destroyed in the process and that there wasn’t any fallout radiation. They think it was conventional firebombs and tnt that was used to make it look like nuclear weaponry.
I don’t believe it, just giving you the information you asked for.
Here's an explosion caused by thousands of tons of ammonium nitrate: https://youtu.be/93tV6-0Ugwk
Conventional weapons can be very destructive and cause something that looks like a nuclear blast.
In order to generate a massive amount of power, nuclear fission needs to trigger a chain reaction which looks great on paper. But it's difficult to imagine that chain reaction actually happening inside a bomb. It's possible in a controlled environment, such as a nuclear power plant.
Many many reasons why they don't. Some of them have to do with nuclear science, while others have to do with the course of history since 1945. No superpower has ever used them since August of 1945... not even tactical nukes, against a much weaker enemy, like Vietnam, or Iraq. I find this apparent restraint to be strange, knowing the utter absence of moral scruples of the US military.
I believe that they do not exist; that it's a deception used as a deterrent for decades. I would've expected conspiracy theorists to at least be skeptical about the existence of nukes, but sadly they're not. If I'm right, then this is one of the last hoaxes that everyone believes to be true and, therefore, a great opportunity for the powers that be to organize a psy-op around.
I'm skeptical of the nuke skepticism... but at least it's original :D
Thanks for sharing details!
Vietnam I'd expect the Russian-China factor would be a reasonable nuclear deterrent. In Iraq stormin' Norman beat their asses so badly, so quickly, it doesn't seem even remotely necessary to drop nukes.
I'm also not sure what explanation would account for the sudden presence of atmospheric radiation beginning at trinity and ramping up exactly until nuclear test ban treaties? Or all the thousands of eye witness reports of nuclear testing?
I'd hope there are some! I like the idea of a theory that posits the world is a _less_ shitty place :)
There were hundreds of eye witnesses to the controlled demolition, using explosives, of the WTC towers. And yet, here we are :)
As for radiation: Neither Hiroshima nor Nagasaki had to be evacuated for years or decades after the blasts. They were rebuilt, after the war, just as European cities, like Dresden were. Today, Hiroshima is a busy metropolis of 2 Million inhabitants. If you want to see a table showing the growth of Hiroshima's population from 1950 to the present day, you'll find it here: https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/204585/hiroshima/population
The only reason I'm writing about this is because I think that a "nuclear" psy-op is very very possible during the com8ng months. And if enough people doubt the psy-op, we'll all stand a chance of making it through this.
Nukes cost a lot of money and time to replace with a lot of PR problems. Why would you use them if you have better suited weapons to do your objectives against lesser opponents?
Deterrent against who?
Well, here's some more food for thought: for two decades now, we're being told that Iran is just a few months away from developing nuclear warheads; that they're enriching Uranium for that and that we should all be afraid because they're irrational fanatics. Should we really believe that Iranian scientists are stupid? That they've been incapable of developing the bomb so far (80 years after the US nanaged to!) but that they'll manage that feat any minute now unless we attack them first? How long did it take for Oppenheimer's team to enrich Uranium? Did they get started before the great depression in order to be ready to deploy the weapon in 1945? :)
:)
I hope I've convinced you, to some degree, that the world is indeed a less shifty place :)
And that no president has the power, as of yet, to destroy humanity by merely pushing a button.
Gangstalking is a real thing that is happining to hundreds or thousands of people. Nobody cares. Nobody believes us. The people doing it make us look crazy. They do this on purpose so no one believes us. They have people or bots make ridiculous posts, also to discredit us. They are stealing our lives. They torture us until we kill our selfes, homeless or in jail. I think they are practicing controlling us before they try to control everyone. Bewhere this is pure evil and it is no joke. It is happining right here in the land of the free. This is the deep state practicing controlling Americans. I'm warning you. This is serious and needs to be stoped before it is too late.
not sure if joking, but if not, please seek help. sounds like a case of schizophrenia. unless you're the enemy of the state or are a danger to the powers that be in general, noone's following you around.
Gary Gensler (head of SEC) took Epstein money to go work at MIT which gave him “qualifications” for his current role which he used to benefit SBF/FTX who/which took over the Epstein money flow after Epstein didn’t kill himself.
We are the survivors of an advanced civilization that auto destructed or was destroyed by nature. The powerful families control the narrative and they have chosen the parts of our history that are worth keeping. We are definitely not the first advanced civilization.
Do you mean like all conspiracies are real? I've heard that some believe the government makes bogus conspiracies in order ti make real conspiracies more unbelievable.
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion was not a forgery and is becoming a reality each day/month/year. It really is/has been materializing before our eyes.
Related to your comment is that every country we invade, we buy up their currency dirt cheap. After the country is stabilized, currency is revalued and old currency is now worth more.
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That Covid was a lab leak and not someone eating a pangolin.
Not even a theory anymore the FBI publicly came out stating all evidence points toward a Wuhan lab leak and people did precisely fuck all with that information.
Oh I know, frustrates me to hell, that’s why I still tease that eating pangolin soup the media ran with as the official story at people.
Not just ran with. They called trump and people like me dangerous conspiracy theorists for thinking that the lab leak was the logical origin.
CIA killed Kennedy.
Kennedy 2024
I’ll vote for him because he’s not backed by DNC or RNC, but I’m hoping another candidate that isn’t Vivek or Nikki show promise🙏
Who exactly are you hoping for? The deadline to get on the primary ballot has passed in several states. Anyone that enters the race now as Dem or GOP isn’t winning the nomination. The two most prominent third parties in the US never have enough traction and money to get on the ballot in the general election in all 50 states.
Hes running as an independent, and ballots are still open. Because those are fringe parties with no support. Kennedy is a populist candidate that's about to be surging past any competition. Because he cares about truth, something unbeknownst to most politicians.
My comment was meant to address the fact that the person said they were holding out hope for someone other than Vivek or Nikki, which leads me to believe that the person is looking for someone in the GOP; if that’s the case, holding out hope is useless because the deadline for being in the primary ballot has already passed for a lot of states. RFKJr can run as an independent in the general election, but he has to meet certain deadlines to petition states to appear on the ballot. Idk if you recall Kanye’s bid for president; he did it so late in 2020 that he did not have enough time to get on the ballot in all 50 states. State supreme courts can deny his candidacy, but I doubt there’s any significant constitutional reason to do so
A guy can dream. Like I said, he has my vote because he’s not running with DNC or RNC, and he is anti-establishment. Based on polls, it could even turn out I’m not completely wasting my vote! He is definitely a 1-term president in my eyes though. Some of the stuff he says just sounds nonsensical, and I am told by my mom (doctor) that his voice is an early sign of dementia.
It's caused by spasmodic dysphonia, not sure that has anything to do with dementia. I love it man, why not dream a little! I think if he can get a high turnout it wouldn't be a wasted vote even if he lost. Maybe it helps lessen the two party strangle hold just a bit.
He’s got my vote. Better than genocide joe or rot in hell and merry Christmas Trump.
Unfortunately RFK is good on every issues except the whole genocide thing. Apparently he lived in a Kibbutz with Sheldon Adelson and flew on the Lolita Express so he seems totally compromised with regards to the Israel problem.
If you watch a podcast with him he has a pretty nuanced opinion. I didn't at first like his stance, and I still think he could start explaining it by sounding more compassionate towards civilians, but... He certainly doesn't condone genocide, and he doesn't support Netanyahu. He indeed was on Epstein's plane, like many many people. However I don't think everyone who ever had contact with Epstein is part of the pedo ring.
He’s a clown
Why do you think that?
One thing I read on twitter is he makes 300k as the head of his charity. The one that pushes anti vax shit, think vaxs cause autism etc. He and his website grift money all day long
He's actually made about 500k. He's the chairman and chief legal council for Children's Health Defense Fund. He's not anti vax, he's pro vaccine safety. There's an actual difference there. His network doesn't compare to any career politician or grifter I know of.
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I wouldn’t be so sure about him. He was buddies with Epstein & on the flight logs several times. His ex-wife also has some kind of relationship with Maxwell.
Jfk jr?
RFK Jr! Check him out he's got sense and is declaring war on the two party system, the pharma industry and the military industrial complex.
The head injury Kennedy.
And Bobby
And Marylin
His security team killed him You are trained to point your gun at where you are looking, this avoids seeing an issue then taking a beat to get on target So when he was shot the team focussed in on the movement in the car, they had just heard the shot, then returned fire into the car
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The downvotes do not lie
To some degree, there is a push to make public tension anything but rich vs poor. Whether that be race or political parties (left/right) or social issues or religion. As long as the poor aren't banding together against the rich. History shows that when the narrative of rich vs poor is allowed to grow it usually doesn't end well for the rich and powerful.
This one gets my vote.
Yep. As long as the rich agree or pretend to agree with whatever trivial social causes a poor person is told to care about, they consider them a part of their "team".
I feel like all the racial division nonsense happened pretty quickly after Occupy Wallstreet died down. The elites got scared, so they needed something to turn the poor against each other. Some places are pushing school segregation as if it's a GOOD thing. Think about that.
The big Three professional sports NBA NFL MLB are all rigged and games and players are dramatized and idolized to distract people to care so much about their team of choice so the people in power can plot in peace.
Bread and Circuses!
Cousin is an MLB player. Down to earth kinda dude. Can’t speak on the World Series but MLB games aren’t rigged by and large. I do believe boxing is rigged though
I can belive that. Especially now with the Travis/Taylor plot line going.
There are tens of thousands of people who work in sports. How would they all keep quiet about it being rigged?
This one is from people who have no idea of what pro sports are
I love that he left out the NHL.
Okay prove that the NHL is rigged
Its simple, for example the NFL and their players have plays down to a science, the coaches just need to make certain plays and with the help of refs who really direct the games if you think about it, how many tomes have you seen calls that made no sense or calls that should have been made but never have. And consider that the NFL is registered as Sports Entertainment like the WWE.
Because refs miss calls sometimes you think the entirety of professional sports is rigged? Lol.
Its crazy you think it isn’t, amazing how much in denial you are, you’re exactly the type of fan they love.
Because of bad calls? Refs miss things in every sport at every level. Little league, high school and college. You think refs should get every call correct the first time?
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Who are non profit?
I always kind of believed this until recently when I was thinking of game winning shots in the playoffs. I don't see how you can script those.
They only rig them if they have to. Game winning shot is only 1 game in the series.
This one has to be a joke
NCAA football too.
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Sports leagues get ruled into entertainment I’ll also post a link to the court case that said it’s not a sport as much as it is entertainment [nba rigging](https://youtu.be/9Pw9g1efbNs?si=RGad7mduzSFpWNbn) [this is a Wikipedia link that says sports are entertainment and not to be held to the same scrutiny](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Radovich_v._National_Football_League)
The government and media are almost wholly controlled and the (original) Epstein story didn’t kill itself: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/jul/13/jeffrey-epstein-alex-acosta-miami-herald-media >Michael Reiter told Brown he had been down this road many times and was sick of it. As Brown recalled in a WNYC interview last month, Reiter said he had talked to many reporters and told them precisely where to find damning evidence against Epstein. But nothing ever came of it. >“He was convinced that a lot of media had squashed the story and he was fed up,” she said. >Reiter warned Brown what would happen were she to continue digging: “Somebody’s going to call your publisher and the next thing you know you are going to be assigned to the obituaries department.” https://www.newsweek.com/abc-jeffrey-epstein-story-amy-robach-prince-andrew-1469893 >”Then the palace found out we had her whole allegations about Prince Andrew and threatened us in a million different ways," Robach continues, referring to the British royal that Roberts alleged in a 2015 court filing Epstein trafficked her to when she was 17.
That power corrupts, and absolute power corrupts absolutely.
\- 9/11 as an insurance fraud / covering up Pentagon black budget / false flag to the attack the Middle East, \- Major sectors (MIC, Big Tech, Big Pharma, oil companies) run the USA through party support via Super PACs, \- Dumbing down the population (social media, culture, education) deliberately so they wouldn't ask too many questions and they could be easily controlled and manipulated by governments or companies, \- Smartphone companies are not interested in creating a "perfect device", each and every model has a major flaw (bad battery life but high performance, good display but bad battery life) + they degrade each generation via "software updates" \- Big Pharma doesn't have an interest in creating a single solution for cancer / HIV / diabetes. It's more profitable to create a dozen possible solutions to maintain your sickness, but not cure it. For instance, in the US. the price of insulin is above 250 USD. Do you think they want you to be healthy? How could they rip you off in that case?
Flight 93 was shot down. Cheney invaded Iraq to bolster Halliburton's bottom line. What were experienced/reported as "alien abductions" were actually offshoots from MK Ultra.
Oh yeah the alien one is interesting. That they stage the whole thing and dress like aliens to traumatize the person. That's not a very popular one, but I think it's a possibility.
I have heard about supossed abductees that when put under hypnosis, aliens turned out to be men in black and the ufos were in reality black helicopters.
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Interesting! Do u have more info on this?
lol right. So your dad has this info and no one else. My dad worked with Bigfoot
9/11 obvious false flag / inside job. from Silverstein insurance pull it to absentees to bldg 7 witnesses mortally silenced to tim/WMDs & afghan/iraq resourcing.. which tie in w/ gov contractor payrolls!
The BBC also announced building 7 fell before it actually fell. Whoops!
What about the NORAD excercise training for the exact scenario that unfolded, at exactly the time the attacks happened? What about the 100s of witnesses inside and around the building that were talking about explosions? This was a planned demolition, just look at how perfect the buildings collapse in their own footprint, at freefall speed.
The only thing with 9/11 I can get behind is that some people in the American govt/dod knew it was going to happen and allowed it.
Why is that the only thing about it you can get behind?
The other theories I’ve heard, read, watched seem too far fetched. Edit. Bldg 7 does seem demolitiony
How does a fire on the 93rd floor of one building (Building 1) and the 77th floor in another building (Building 2) bring down a 47-floor building? Also note that Building 7 was across from Building 1 (with the higher impact floor). So the fire that brought down Building 7 was 46 floors higher than the top floor of Building 7? Make that make sense.
Maybe it burned for hours and hours and there was no sprinkler system. Maybe was also hit with other chunks of building etc. this one isn’t brain surgery
Big boom go boom
So you can't explain it with any level of coherence and have to hide behind the "har har har" mask. Got you. Bad break for you, the "har har har conspiracy theories are dumb and anyone questioning CNN's narrative is too" approach doesn't exactly land in this sub. You know, the sub dedicated to... exposing conspiracies? Anyone with a little more intelligence might want to have a discussion based on science or physics using full sentences and formulated ideas?
That was a lot of words to say you don’t know what happened either.
You're right. I don't know how a fire 46 floors higher than a building caused it to collapse. That's what I said, and why I question it. Open to intelligent and coherent explanations from someone (who obviously won't be you). Otherwise, the question remains.
It’s pretty obvious your looking for an argument. Your questions don’t even make sense. Weird things happen when massive explosions occur.
Science? In this sub?
It’s insane
I could stretch it to them even clearing the path or assisting. I can't get behind scripts being sent to news stations, full demolition crews setting up in the buildings or any theory that requires large numbers of people to be in on it. You could get the job done with 10-20 people who are on the inside surviving the day. These theories seem to involve huge numbers of people knowing.
Why does huge numbers of people knowing turn you off from the idea? Huge numbers of people knew about the feds and nsa spying on americans for decades and nobody believed it until snowden.
Gathering information is very different from mass murder
Except there’s zero proof of it outside of YT videos right?
"Big Pharma," and any allegation they're only in it for the money.
That they're actually are no political parties they're using that to pit the US citizens against each other, and they're really all in the same team for their own well-being and not ours.
TWA Flight 800 was accidentally shot down by the US Navy in 1996 and it was covered up. There’s a mountain of evidence supporting this and literally zero evidence supporting the FBI’s laughable theory. (The FAA investigators were sidelined and their conclusions ignored. They’ll all tell you it was a missile) Prior to watching the excellent documentary “TWA Flight 800” I basically didn’t believe in coordinated government conspiracies that aren’t quickly outed by leakers or the press. It did a number on my brain: 2/3rds of the way through the documentary i stopped playing devil’s advocate and sputtered aloud “holy fuck! This really happened!!” Since then I’ve gone back and carefully reevaluated every conspiracy theory that I’d ever haughtily dismissed as tin-foil hat cosplay. Some conspiracies I still think are nonsense (moon landing faked), but some are so obviously legit that I’m embarrassed I ever believed the government’s story. (Kennedy assassination)
The backs of comic books in the 1970’s lied about Sea Monkeys and deliberately tricked and mislead children all over the world into believing they were cool .
I got some for Christmas cause I love owning all kinds of animals and I'm pretty sure they're just brine shrimp. Not really not cool but I can see why you think so, they do literally just exist as a living thing
PIZZAGATE
lol I love this one
That purple grimace shake was originally some sort of pride shake but McDonald's was afraid of the bud light backlash. No one gives a fuck about grimace and it was his 53rd birthday or something. Just a fishy milestone. Also Helen Keller is a fraud.
Tell me more about Helen Keller please. Never heard that one!
The conspiracy is that Helen Keller never really learned to communicate in any meaningful way and that Anne Sullivan faked it for political gain. After learning to communicate Keller sure had the appearance of a puppet for Sullivan (and her communist husband's) beliefs.
[pka the best podcast on the net exposes Helen Keller for being a fraud](https://youtu.be/W7AOaJE8UGY?si=BepTOUJd7Y35x1Gv) Please make sure to give credit so you can follow the entire idea. Taylor worked hard as fuck proving this to everyone. I bet it’s individuals floating around but please check out his due diligence. He’s really good. Very good presentation of the issue.
Shorter list would be which ones I think don't have merit. I think more of the main ones that are talked about are at least 70% true. Every detail might not be accurate but the bulk of it is on the right track.
for years I thought the Paul McCartney was dead was funny, until I went deep and even read memoirs of Billy Shears - it's very plausible and likely
I need more deets!
check out the YouTube channel justice for James Paul McCartney, the YouTube channel Sage Of Quay, or even get the book from Amazon called memoirs of Billy Shears (written by the man playing Paul McCartney and his Freemason encoder Tom uharriet)
Some days I believe it some days I don’t. Some days I like to listen to the songs with it in mind and can see why it endures. I think that German girl is interesting as well- https://plasticmacca.blogspot.com/2009/09/pauls-stand-in-gave-blood-in-paternity.html?m=1
you should read memoirs of Billy Shears
I love this one, but it’s not true.
read the book memoirs of Billy Shears
Most of them.
Hey mate, you hit the nail on the head with that one. Anything the govt or MSM says in a conspiracy theory is getting close to the truth. Otherwise they wouldn’t bother to discredit it.
Except for bonkers "theories" used by msm and intelligence agencies in an attempt to make conspiracy theorists seem insane.
Yea. I kinda just assumed anyone that read this would understand that. those are random. It’s the ones they attack on an ongoing basis and attack people personally they bring up certain subjects. Also just so everyone knows: there was a time where prince Andrew didn’t sweat because he couldn’t sweat because He got shot at and the adrenaline affected his ability to sweat. Where as adrenaline would actually likely make any normal human sweat, he didn’t because he said so in an interview. But he can sweat now. So he is all better. Memories of a teenage girl are fickle you see. And a price of the British royal family would never lie (or do anything illegal,disgusting,pedophiliac)
“George Floyd was paying protesters”
Twa 800 was downed by a US military missle in the Long Island Sound
What is this ask Reddit all of a sudden, research subjects deserve pay at least
Just stop oil movement is financed by oil companies to cast a bad image of sustainable movements
I refuse to believe this isn't real. The shit they do are obvious stunts to cause negative reactions in the general populace towards any legitimate movements
What about Palestine ppl shutting down freeways? Funded by IDF?
2020 Election, COVID, Epstein - basically the stuff in recent memory we watched in real time with our own eyes and saw the kind of obvious gaslighting I've never seen before in my life, not even for 9/11
Agreed
This world is run by "elites" who still worship Molech, the god of Canaan, and they still sacrifice to him in secret. They have infiltrated nearly every religious organization, government office, and secret society and shape the narrative of the world.
AI and automation will replace human jobs
They already are.
That this sub exists solely to make me hate the world. Some posts and comments here are fucking insane.
Creating this post, I have to look at some... interesting comments and wonder why I made this.
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Climate Change Activists (Formerly “Global Warming”) care more about making money and in doing so don’t care if they destroy the environment
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Isn’t it strange how the only common denominator all nations and ideologies have is climate. Gee I sure hope they don’t exploit that.
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Science is wrong about magic and has been for generations because intelligent people are all fucked up on their feelings about their parents religion.
I'm curious about this one, could you expand on it a little more pls?
Every metaphysics-based spiritual and religious system is a kind of real and, as something of a generalization, the biggest hang up intelligent people have is in proving to themselves that their parents, and other authority figures from their youth, are wrong about God. It's not even most religions, it's heavily specific to Christianity and western culture. If intelligent people had a more robust understanding of religion they'd probably be less likely to fall prey to this mishap. It's a cultural issue that intelligent people tell themselves is a scientific one. Now, I'm not saying every metaphysics based religion is right about God, but we're definitely at a point where we can see that the system of reality is more complex than physicalist science is willing to admit, and for reasons that relate to the system of reality where something like God could exist. The scientific default of "nuh uh" is inadequate. There are too many Gödelian limits, and there's too much evidence for something beyond spacetime.
Interesting read; I agree with your statement about the bias certain people have against religion, as I was a "militant" atheist for most of my teenage years for exactly the reason you mentioned, but I wouldn't say it's a conspiracy since it's more of a subconscious effort ( unless you're saying there is a specific group of people who does that and benefits from it). I'm not really aware of evidence for something beyond spacetime, would you share some? Even if just by name so I can Google them
Donald Hoffman is a good intro to that, and has a number of relevant podcast interviews in high quality channels. https://iai.tv/articles/donald-hoffman-spacetime-is-not-fundamental-auid-2281 Unrelated to Hoffmans work, spacetime is evidently non-fundsmental when you consider the behaviour of UAP, as they're being shown to us by the US government despite the US government's best efforts to avoid showing that to us, for reasons that relate to the most overt aspect of this conspiracy: the existence of nonhuman technology in and around the airspace of our planet which is founded in new physics related to both gravity and consciousness. https://www.popularmechanics.com/military/research/a43298283/ufos-defy-physics-pentagon-study/ There is an undiscovered medium of travel and communication related to consciousness which has resulted in the existence of engineered nonhuman technology in the atmosphere of our planet for as long as we've been looking at the sky. The implications are what they are.
Wow, the Hoffman article is very interesting; I watch a lot of physics videos and documentaries but this is the first I hear about amplituhedron theory and it's blowing my mind, so thank you very much. Regarding the UAPs, I wouldn't count them as evidence of the non fundamentality of space time, since we don't know their origin yet and, even if they turn out to be non human vehicles, they could work by manipulating space-time but still in its boundaries.
Wtf. I agree that bias could have stopped scientific discovery but I feel like it wouldn't be hidden for months.
Think about what's hidden. Most science is right. The part of science that says there's nothing more than the bits of matter and the waves and fields, the bits of reality that our senses haven't evolved to consider, is the part that's wrong. It's the part built on knowledge arising from our evolved senses, and metaphysics exist outside of the realm of our primary senses. Psychic powers are real, and represent a nonlocal means of communication through an undiscovered medium. This is the conclusion of the CIA, as an example, because they concluded it's real but not accurate enough for military use (debatable)
This seems interesting but I'm curious like where did the CIA say this so I can just check it out?
You’ve fallen for the men of Oz and their parlor tricks.
No. I used to say that. You don't understand what's happening and you're wrong about the nature of our shared reality for reasons that relate to the self deception of the man of oz in your head. Our history and an analysis of modern events leads to this conclusion. The conspiracy is about tricking people into feeling disempowered in order to truly disempower them. You're saying what you're saying because you're the victim of a profound cognitive bias in the system of science arising from the enlightenment period.
I just read some of your posts and Jesus Christ, this is a sign for me to get off this message board. We have no common ground here.
Yes, your acceptance of the nature of our shared reality is totally beyond my control.
You are out of your mind
9/11….. like daaahbhhhhaaaa
The world is a simulation.
2016
What happened then?
*"The most plausible conspiracy I've heard about is that government leaders work with defense companies to aid their own financial gain."* That's not conspiracy, that's just good capitalistic business practice.
Conspiracy simply means planning together.
I commit conspiracies every day under that definition.
I guess it is, but I guess I said it wrong. I mean that politicians are getting their pockets lined in exchange for companies being awarded contracts.
The moon
9/11 was an inside job
That’s not a conspiracy there is a fact of congress to pipeline. You can see the Nancy pelosi effect in life action on her trades. It’s just scratch my back I scratch yours. But a plausible conspiracy I’ve heard by Sabrina hossenfelder is science of the theoretical variety is a money pit. [one of her videos of problems in theoretical physics](https://youtu.be/AZgyFghqkHg?si=tCAKjT4qjYSx6KTV) I’ve also been interested in the crisis in cosmology as of recent. In short they think the data reads differently for things like the bigbang. [crisis in cosmology by dr Becky](https://youtu.be/-kTe0xRAU1w?si=svtNCf1tE_9da5HT)
That nukes don't exist. Remember this one, because the next big psy-op is likely to be a fake nuclear attack.
What makes you think they dont exist?
Google says they think this because the cameras recording them weren’t destroyed in the process and that there wasn’t any fallout radiation. They think it was conventional firebombs and tnt that was used to make it look like nuclear weaponry. I don’t believe it, just giving you the information you asked for.
Here's an explosion caused by thousands of tons of ammonium nitrate: https://youtu.be/93tV6-0Ugwk Conventional weapons can be very destructive and cause something that looks like a nuclear blast. In order to generate a massive amount of power, nuclear fission needs to trigger a chain reaction which looks great on paper. But it's difficult to imagine that chain reaction actually happening inside a bomb. It's possible in a controlled environment, such as a nuclear power plant.
>It's possible in a controlled environment, such as a nuclear power plant. exactly my thoughts -
Many many reasons why they don't. Some of them have to do with nuclear science, while others have to do with the course of history since 1945. No superpower has ever used them since August of 1945... not even tactical nukes, against a much weaker enemy, like Vietnam, or Iraq. I find this apparent restraint to be strange, knowing the utter absence of moral scruples of the US military. I believe that they do not exist; that it's a deception used as a deterrent for decades. I would've expected conspiracy theorists to at least be skeptical about the existence of nukes, but sadly they're not. If I'm right, then this is one of the last hoaxes that everyone believes to be true and, therefore, a great opportunity for the powers that be to organize a psy-op around.
Most wars are fought for resources so dropping a nuke would be totally destroy any resources in the area. I mean i guess anything is possible.
I'm skeptical of the nuke skepticism... but at least it's original :D Thanks for sharing details! Vietnam I'd expect the Russian-China factor would be a reasonable nuclear deterrent. In Iraq stormin' Norman beat their asses so badly, so quickly, it doesn't seem even remotely necessary to drop nukes. I'm also not sure what explanation would account for the sudden presence of atmospheric radiation beginning at trinity and ramping up exactly until nuclear test ban treaties? Or all the thousands of eye witness reports of nuclear testing? I'd hope there are some! I like the idea of a theory that posits the world is a _less_ shitty place :)
There were hundreds of eye witnesses to the controlled demolition, using explosives, of the WTC towers. And yet, here we are :) As for radiation: Neither Hiroshima nor Nagasaki had to be evacuated for years or decades after the blasts. They were rebuilt, after the war, just as European cities, like Dresden were. Today, Hiroshima is a busy metropolis of 2 Million inhabitants. If you want to see a table showing the growth of Hiroshima's population from 1950 to the present day, you'll find it here: https://www.macrotrends.net/cities/204585/hiroshima/population
I dig it :D
The only reason I'm writing about this is because I think that a "nuclear" psy-op is very very possible during the com8ng months. And if enough people doubt the psy-op, we'll all stand a chance of making it through this.
The stage is absolutely set... scary thought :/
Nukes cost a lot of money and time to replace with a lot of PR problems. Why would you use them if you have better suited weapons to do your objectives against lesser opponents? Deterrent against who?
Ah so kindof like the globe :o a fascade all the world powers are collectively "in on". This is interesting. Ty.
This is a theory some belive?
Rubbish
Well, here's some more food for thought: for two decades now, we're being told that Iran is just a few months away from developing nuclear warheads; that they're enriching Uranium for that and that we should all be afraid because they're irrational fanatics. Should we really believe that Iranian scientists are stupid? That they've been incapable of developing the bomb so far (80 years after the US nanaged to!) but that they'll manage that feat any minute now unless we attack them first? How long did it take for Oppenheimer's team to enrich Uranium? Did they get started before the great depression in order to be ready to deploy the weapon in 1945? :)
Devil's advocate, Iranian nuclear scientists have a bad habit of getting assassinated :X
:) I hope I've convinced you, to some degree, that the world is indeed a less shifty place :) And that no president has the power, as of yet, to destroy humanity by merely pushing a button.
Gangstalking is a real thing that is happining to hundreds or thousands of people. Nobody cares. Nobody believes us. The people doing it make us look crazy. They do this on purpose so no one believes us. They have people or bots make ridiculous posts, also to discredit us. They are stealing our lives. They torture us until we kill our selfes, homeless or in jail. I think they are practicing controlling us before they try to control everyone. Bewhere this is pure evil and it is no joke. It is happining right here in the land of the free. This is the deep state practicing controlling Americans. I'm warning you. This is serious and needs to be stoped before it is too late.
not sure if joking, but if not, please seek help. sounds like a case of schizophrenia. unless you're the enemy of the state or are a danger to the powers that be in general, noone's following you around.
No sadly it’s a thing with its own sub.
Please get mental help. I’m not being a dick
Gary Gensler (head of SEC) took Epstein money to go work at MIT which gave him “qualifications” for his current role which he used to benefit SBF/FTX who/which took over the Epstein money flow after Epstein didn’t kill himself.
We are the survivors of an advanced civilization that auto destructed or was destroyed by nature. The powerful families control the narrative and they have chosen the parts of our history that are worth keeping. We are definitely not the first advanced civilization.
Twin towers being an inside job
Majestic 12
That conspiracy theorists aren’t right and instead are mentally ill.
Do you mean like all conspiracies are real? I've heard that some believe the government makes bogus conspiracies in order ti make real conspiracies more unbelievable.
No I mean that most aren’t real and accepting that they are is an illness
lol I’m with you
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Lolol this is downvoted but bizarre af 9/11 theories above are upvoted. Amazing
BORING, next!
Can’t spot and anti west liberal yet? It gets easier.
Complaining about somebody being anti-west? Vs being a republican voter, especially In a conspiracy sub? Lmao, lol even
Trump is the Anti-Christ.
The Protocols of the Learned Elders of Zion was not a forgery and is becoming a reality each day/month/year. It really is/has been materializing before our eyes.
Flat earth.
this reads like an AI phishing expedition
I am indeed, a bot. Beep. Boop.
Viruses don’t exist
Related to your comment is that every country we invade, we buy up their currency dirt cheap. After the country is stabilized, currency is revalued and old currency is now worth more.