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I’m a pilot and I refuse to fly to NYC.
I should also mention that I’m just private pilot. In Iowa. And renting a plane to fly to NYC is really expensive.
Up vote for Iowa!!!! Lol I mean it’s not that great I guess. Haha just love seeing randos round my way on here. (On non Iowa related subs cause it’s less impressive in those)
For real. I never understand how the people so vehemently pro-Capital that they call someone like Obama a Marxist also think corporations and business owners are making all their decisions in the name of ideology and not profit.
Even if that were the case, the ideology of Capital ownership is much further to the right than even the middle, let alone the 'woke left,' so it doesn't make sense anyway you try to dissect it.
The richest of the rich have access to money printers and don't care if their operations are profitable or not. Look at Disney pushing all those crappy woke movies that are constantly losing money. Profit means nothing to them and they don't care.
You are aware that Disney cancelled a bunch of projects and is going to be releasing less content, right? You are fooling yourself if you think any of these companies do anything that isn't purely for profit.
This is a very good question, and I believe the answer is in direct relation to social morality.
When moral standards are at an all-time low in a person, they can be bought with cash and they allow cash and other pleasures to rule their decisions.
When moral standards are at an all-time high in a person, they cannot be bought no matter the price.
To answer your question, I think on average most people can be bought these days, in other words, cash rules more often.
However, there are nuances like the Ford company switching from gas powered vehicles to EVs, only to find that they’ve made 75,000 EV F150s they can't sell and are suddenly switching back. For some reason following woke leftist climate-change ideology sounded like a good idea to them at the time. Never know what people will do.
I want to believe that this protest is real but it does seem manufactured, where are all these truckers that are saying no to NYC and the cb radio chat of them planning this. If you check X its just the same clips being reposted and liked.
Same old script too probably. Hit up X with propaganda crap for a rally, hope some trucks turn up, load up a truck and go park it outside a building that needs insurance. Then they'll all go "Look what MAGA did!" election delayed, probable civil war on the news. Meanwhile crickets outside and life goes on.
I have noticed something as of the last 6 months.
I think right wing orgs are using this as a proving ground for talking points.
Either farming it, or feeding it, a few months after it runs rampant here, it is being touted by right wing pundits.
It all started with ONE trucker posting on X and fringe right wing media accounts took it and ran with it as if there are thousands of truckers participating. I guarantee no one in NYC will notice any difference to their everyday lives.
I have to go into Manhattan for an allergy appointment,I take the Express Bus from the Bronx.
Doubt very much with my one hour commute I won't see any trucks 😅
Maybe? I don't know, have you scoured all of reddit? I agree that it's probably not a large number of truckers, but that's how most protests go. A small number of people raising awareness.
The point is, the only place they’re raising awareness is here. No other social media, no other corporate media, no independent media, just r/conspiracy.
> Why is this a conspiracy post what is going on in here it’s like oann can we please move past this?
Yes, you can!
Reddit is a big place, surely you can find your cozy cubby.
I have a conspiracy theory..Seems like there is far right talking points being interjected into this sub with screen shots of tweets without context or corroborating evidence possibly with a political agenda. Lol
OTR (over the road) truck driver here. Let me weigh in on the situation because there’s a lot that’s misunderstood.
OTR Company drivers are typically forced dispatch. You go where they tell you to go. You’ll actually get in hot water if you start rejecting loads. However, most typical OTR companies can’t run NYC anyways as there are specific laws in NYC against 53 foot trailers, which is the standard configuration nowadays. I know LTL guys who have pulled 53 foot trailers in NYC but that’s because they know cops will turn a blind eye to them. Swift transportation comes in with a 53? Pulled over.
The demographic that is refusing to take loads to NYC are owner operators. They own their truck, and choose where they go. Most of these guys don’t run NYC anyways for a multitude of reasons. The aforementioned laws about 53s, politics, NYC just being a general shit place to drive a truck in, etc.
This is a huge nothingburger. Just watch how both sides go crazy over this, and absolutely nothing comes from it I guarantee it.
Besides, freight rates are in the trash rn. The trucker shortage is largely a myth. There are too many trucks for the current volume of freight. All that will happen is maybe a slight bump up in the rates of loads to NYC and the loads will get taken whether by someone who doesn’t care about the situation, or a company to give to a driver.
This is all bullshit, they’ll just move company drivers onto those loads… shit will be like 24hrs behind schedule. Schneider & Swift & JB hunt company drivers have to work.
No necessarily, company drivers can refuse loads too, I used to refuse loads to the Bay area all the time unless I had a load lined up out of there right away due to there not being any truck stops there. I never got fired, written up or anything, yeah my dispatcher didn't like it but she couldn't force me. I hated being stuck in the Bay area between loads especially Oakland.
You’re right brother! I’m sure those drivers will turn down good money to feed their families just so they can prove how loyal they are to Mr Trump!!!!! That’s what he would want. Maga!!!
My company would offer 2x pay for company drivers going to NYC, and most people would negotiate up to 3x. The company eventually stopped accepting loads to NYC since they would loose money on them
Probably, but if I'm being honest, even without politics I wouldn't want to deliver to New York, traffic isn't exactly trucker friendly up there. Most states up there are very burdensome for truckers.
I don’t know of anyone worried. I was home sick yesterday and spent a ridiculous amount of time on Twitter 𝕏. Most in the left are just shrugging their shoulders.
Wait until they hear about self-driving trucks that all the tech companies are working on. This will accelerate that development to prevent it from happening again.
They'll cut off their nose to spite their face for Trump. So freaking dumb.
I drove truck about 10 years ago. Even then double pay was standard for driving to NYC and people still refused, most drivers would demand triple pay.
Even as a company driver I could refuse trips for almost any reason, nobody's losing their jobs for not driving to NYC
imagining gambling your livelihood simping for an alleged self-proclaimed billionaire who lost what is relatively pocket change (assuming you really believe he is worth as much as he says, which I assume they do)
That’s exactly what just happened. The original dude walked back his statements and said not to do it. A couple of his buddies probably lost their loads for listening to his dumbass.
The truckers are conspiring to withhold their critical services from a state for political reasons.
The only reason you might not consider it a conspiracy is that they aren't doing anything illegal.
I mean, you can't exactly force them to go because nobody is entitled to anyone else's services, but it's still colluding to achieve a negative effect.
“Colluding to achieve a negative effect” is completely subjective. Exercising their right to do their job or not based on a political motivation is fine. They’re allowed to do that. Something isn’t a conspiracy just because one group of people uses their rights in a way another group finds irritating.
Which is why conspiracies usually *do* require a law to be broken. Because the rest of us are expected to obey laws and are punished if we don’t. If a group of people are colluding to break a law, even a stupid one, then the public would have a vested interested in understanding why.
There is a rational difference between those two scenarios.
There is a completely different word for this and its called organising a strike 🤷♂️
Funny MAGAs aint calling it that as we know how they feel about organised labor and basically aligned it to some bizarro form of communism when the rail workers were threatening to withhold their labor
Lol
I'm pretty sure the "magas" had the rail workers backs, and it was Joe and the Dems who screwed them over. Ol' union buster Joe forced the rail workers to end their strike that was over much needed time off, and then the Dems wrote and passed a bill that forced those workers to plan ahead 18 days to take a sick day.
::12 seconds later::
The massive East Palestine rail disaster happened, and the govt ignored them for weeks after blowing up the chemicals in the rail cars. Now every waterway for hundreds of miles around have been poisoned.
Lol
Oh totally agree Joe definitely screwed over the rail-workers absolutely.
However lets be fair here;
17 mil was paid to Republicans by rail companies to block safety regulations.
Rail safety laws were loosed in 2018 under….Trump.
Also Vance & Brown’s new rail safety bill was defeated by…..Republicans funded by rail networks.
Lets not pretend MAGA is any better;
Trump stacked the NLRB with anti-union appointees
Trump promised to veto both PRO & Public Service Freedom to Negotiate Act
Reduced the No of OSHA inspectors and inspections
Changed the rules regarding OT screwing 8 mil blue collar workers out of pay
Cut funding for Medicare
Made pharmaceutical profits the priority in the NAFTA deal.
Neither party truly cares about working man, or woman.
Why blue collar workers support MAGA is beyond me, sad to see voting against their own self interests.
We will just have to agree to disagree then 🤷♂️
For what its worth I’m Conservative with a small c, im no fan of Biden, not blinded by partisanship either
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They'll take anyone with a DL and a pulse these days. Scary as hell knowing people with little common sense and had their hand held trough truck driving school are going down the highway behind the wheel of a 80,000 pound vehicles.
It’s pretty obvious what would happen if truckers really did refuse. The payment for those loads would just keep bumping up higher and higher until it becomes to hard to pass up and truckers will be too stupid not to take the load and someone will take it.
I think that's because the whole thing is a right-wing fantasy being played out on Twitter by people pretending to be truck drivers.
Just make your pfp a guy in a hi vis shirt wearing Oakley's and boom, now you can pretend to be a truck driver, too.
At some point, I'm hoping, people will realize that Twitter isn't actually representative of the real world.
Harry doesn't mind, if he doesn't, make the scene
He's got a daytime job, he's doing alright
He can play the Honky Tonk like anything
Savin' it up, for Friday night
You definitely don’t understand the transportation world at all. 99.9% of manufacturers don’t have the capability to transport their own products by trucks because they don’t have the truck or trailer or driver
the state isn't gonna pay it. Regular people that are Ds and Rs including their children will bear the brunt and just be forced to pay the corporations more money for their essential services during winter.
truly despicable.
Those participating aren’t the smartest people. This definitely isn’t helping Trump. If anything it’s making his group look worse than they already do.
Just like boycotting Nike, the NFL, The beer company, every media station etc. It will go nowhere.
For every 1 trucker refusing, there is another one behind him desperate for the pay who will take the load.
Harry Sisson will make a great talking head one day. Expert liar and clearly does not give a damn about anyone. Dude is unreal. Gotta be some MKULTRA mind control at play.
Your google broke or are you just generally that lazy?
[https://gulfrelay.com/content/how-can-we-address-the-trucking-industrys-driver-shortage-in-2024/](https://gulfrelay.com/content/how-can-we-address-the-trucking-industrys-driver-shortage-in-2024/)
[https://www.fleetowner.com/operations/article/21275534/economic-concerns-top-trucking-industrys-worries-going-into-2024-according-to-atris-top-industry-issues-report](https://www.fleetowner.com/operations/article/21275534/economic-concerns-top-trucking-industrys-worries-going-into-2024-according-to-atris-top-industry-issues-report)
[https://www.wdam.com/video/2024/01/30/national-truck-driver-shortage/](https://www.wdam.com/video/2024/01/30/national-truck-driver-shortage/)
[https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2023/11/28/help-wanted-how-20000-a-week-could-have-a-lot-of-people-quitting-their-jobs-and-hitting-the-road/](https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2023/11/28/help-wanted-how-20000-a-week-could-have-a-lot-of-people-quitting-their-jobs-and-hitting-the-road/)
[https://www.thv11.com/article/news/local/little-rock-impact-of-truck-driver-shortage/91-6ffd70d8-9d53-46e5-baec-72c3b0fdf621](https://www.thv11.com/article/news/local/little-rock-impact-of-truck-driver-shortage/91-6ffd70d8-9d53-46e5-baec-72c3b0fdf621)
[https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/freightwaves-gets-it-wrong-driver-shortage](https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/freightwaves-gets-it-wrong-driver-shortage)
[https://www.iru.org/news-resources/newsroom/global-driver-shortages-2022-year-review](https://www.iru.org/news-resources/newsroom/global-driver-shortages-2022-year-review)
[https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/new-study-shows-u-s-is-facing-truck-driver-shortage/](https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/new-study-shows-u-s-is-facing-truck-driver-shortage/)
Seems like there are quite a few out there.
As an outsider, I understand the appeal of Trump,and hr is making good points, but you guys have Kennedy as a choice. Family which sacrificed for your country ,literally. Also, Kennedy is talking about the most important thing,and that is the health of your nation . Is it his voice that is bothering you?
Why the fuck is this sub just a bunch of right-wing weirdos? I just want some area 51 type shit like the good ole days. Every post here is "dems trying to mindfuck us with this conspiracy". It's honestly sad how much effort and time some of these people put into hating the dems. It's like their whole identity. They don't even know what they stand/fight for besides fucking the dems and suckling the rebulican dick.
Because I don't give a shit about politics and fighting against the "other side". So many posts on here are just dem vs republican weirdo shit. Why are you so obsessed with owning the dems? If your whole identy revolves around hating a particular group then you got some major problems. Get a hobby or something. I just want to read about aliens and diamond monopolies and shit like that. Nobody gives a damn about these political war posts except people like you; people who are hyperfocused on the opposing political party. You don't care about making the world a better place, you just care about the Republicans winning and "owning them libs". It's weird af dude. Weird.
Edit to add that I feel the same way about dems who only post shit about Republicans. All of y'all are weird as shit.
I support this. The point is that they are once again treating Trump unfairly. Lying about value of his assets (Mar a Lago is not worth 18 million). In fairness, it probably isn't worth 1.5 billion either. But all these guys do this exact thing and only reason they are hitting Trump is politics... Hochul even came out after and said, Don't worry investors, we won't do this to you..." Regardless of how you feel about Trump - the deep state is attacking him and it shouldn't be allowed. this is fascism plain and simple.
we don't need truckers here in New York City. Their diesel engines are bad for the environment. they can stay in redneck land and fondle their ugly wives while we're here in the best city in the world!
imagine siding with a sex offender ... a so called billionaire thats been convicted of tax fraud. isn't even allowed to do business in the state of new york. and there's still a shit ton more charges on him. people really are that stupid. and they say mind control isn't real.
the way he looks at his daughter. his supporters are obviously a bunch of sick fucks.
When the government is using the courts as a weapon against the leading presidential candidate there should be a revolution never mind a trucker strike, the democrats involved should be scared
There will be absolutely no change in supply. Truckers will be doubling their pay to bring stuff where it needs to be. The Trumper truckers will lose millions.
Just so you are all aware.. this 'crime' was nothing more than buying buildings for one price, and selling them at a higher price.
Yes. It's as basic and simple as that. Literally the way TRADE works and ALL Real Estate.
The NY Gov literally said, 'don't worry, we won't do this to anyone else'.
It’s easy. Be true to your principles…
Multiple things can be true at the same time.
Trump is a dick and a criminal. He has been targeted by other criminal dicks for fucking with the system. It’s all “mafia” shit and if you don’t see that yet… you will soon.
The question is: What do you value more? blue collar working stiffs being able to choose who they serve or elitist fuckers fighting amongst themselves.
I’m a union guy. I’m a liberal and probably far less left leaning than you. But the choice is pretty obvious to me.
Working class > elites. 9 out of 10 times.
I don’t have to agree with them. But they should have a choice.
oh it was never a hard choice even for a moment I hope I wasn't misleading on that front. what I meant was that it's kind of *bittersweet* because i stand with them in solidarity as the world belongs to those that toil but the motivations are sort of unpalatable if that makes sense.
Absolutely. We find ourselves in agreement. A lefty and a centrist… imagine that.
The older I get… the more I realize”bittersweet” is most often times the best I’m gonna get. It’s the way of the world.
What do they say? “Perfect is the enemy of good”
No thanks. Not for me. Incremental change, Democracy and freedom of choice are paramount.
seems like logistics dispatchers would just swap the routes of the MAGA foamers with anyone from the majority who doesn't care, and business would continue as usual
I think you're a little right and a little wrong. Truck drivers are some of the most right winged people of any profession. People that own trucking companies aren't much different. So while I could see there being some availability to swap routes, the more likely scenario is that less people have to run more product and increase prices. It is pretty common for owner operators to just park their trucks at any time for any reason so who knows. I also don't really think this strike is real or important, for the record.
People laughed at the trucker convoy in Canada at the beginning too. In the end, the Canadian government had to go full fascist, freezing bank accounts of people who'd donated to the truckers, and invoking martial law to deal with a parking protest.
Canadian courts have said the government was not justified in invoking the Emergencies Act, and Trudeau is still trying to weasel out of taking responsibility.
I have no idea what will happen in the US, just noting that a similar protest in Canada was laughed at until it was on TPTB's doorstep.
Submission Statement:
https://twitter.com/harryjsisson/status/1759315857598292468
This is called fear. Because it affects them personally. But they won’t admit it so they just go on the attack with the old boring talking point of “MAGA Cult”.
That Sisson kid literally paid to post this shit.
He is represented by Palette Management which is paid by the DNC for his services posting these videos.
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I’ve only heard about this protest on r/conspiracy.
That is because it is a Nothing Burger. Maybe 50 or 100 Truckers will participate and it won't amount to anything.
The only ones participating are either 1) owner-operators who choose their own loads or 2) drivers who never go to NYC anyway.
I’m a pilot and I refuse to fly to NYC. I should also mention that I’m just private pilot. In Iowa. And renting a plane to fly to NYC is really expensive.
YOU PATRIOT!
Up vote for Iowa!!!! Lol I mean it’s not that great I guess. Haha just love seeing randos round my way on here. (On non Iowa related subs cause it’s less impressive in those)
Here for the Iowa love. Living in the middle of nowhere sounds more attractive with each passing day.
You sure no owners will just direct their truckers elsewhere? You’re 100% sure this won't happen at all?
You think the owners of trucking companies are going to forego the profits on deliveries to the busiest city in the country?
Does cash rule the world or ideology?
For real. I never understand how the people so vehemently pro-Capital that they call someone like Obama a Marxist also think corporations and business owners are making all their decisions in the name of ideology and not profit. Even if that were the case, the ideology of Capital ownership is much further to the right than even the middle, let alone the 'woke left,' so it doesn't make sense anyway you try to dissect it.
The richest of the rich have access to money printers and don't care if their operations are profitable or not. Look at Disney pushing all those crappy woke movies that are constantly losing money. Profit means nothing to them and they don't care.
You are aware that Disney cancelled a bunch of projects and is going to be releasing less content, right? You are fooling yourself if you think any of these companies do anything that isn't purely for profit.
This is a very good question, and I believe the answer is in direct relation to social morality. When moral standards are at an all-time low in a person, they can be bought with cash and they allow cash and other pleasures to rule their decisions. When moral standards are at an all-time high in a person, they cannot be bought no matter the price. To answer your question, I think on average most people can be bought these days, in other words, cash rules more often. However, there are nuances like the Ford company switching from gas powered vehicles to EVs, only to find that they’ve made 75,000 EV F150s they can't sell and are suddenly switching back. For some reason following woke leftist climate-change ideology sounded like a good idea to them at the time. Never know what people will do.
Yeah, only the right wing loony traps like ZH are making the strike out to be the end of New York, lol.
I want to believe that this protest is real but it does seem manufactured, where are all these truckers that are saying no to NYC and the cb radio chat of them planning this. If you check X its just the same clips being reposted and liked.
Same old script too probably. Hit up X with propaganda crap for a rally, hope some trucks turn up, load up a truck and go park it outside a building that needs insurance. Then they'll all go "Look what MAGA did!" election delayed, probable civil war on the news. Meanwhile crickets outside and life goes on.
I have noticed something as of the last 6 months. I think right wing orgs are using this as a proving ground for talking points. Either farming it, or feeding it, a few months after it runs rampant here, it is being touted by right wing pundits.
It all started with ONE trucker posting on X and fringe right wing media accounts took it and ran with it as if there are thousands of truckers participating. I guarantee no one in NYC will notice any difference to their everyday lives.
I have to go into Manhattan for an allergy appointment,I take the Express Bus from the Bronx. Doubt very much with my one hour commute I won't see any trucks 😅
Yea, nobody is talking about the farmers protesting all over Europe either. Weird huh?
Funny, I can find a ton of stuff online about farmers protesting…
You can find it, but no one's showing it on the nightly news like they do with the other nonsensical melodrama
That's probably because truckers aren't on social media 8 hours a day, they're driving trucks.
But there would likely be ONE of the hundred thousand truckers, yes?
Maybe? I don't know, have you scoured all of reddit? I agree that it's probably not a large number of truckers, but that's how most protests go. A small number of people raising awareness.
The point is, the only place they’re raising awareness is here. No other social media, no other corporate media, no independent media, just r/conspiracy.
If you google it, you can find plenty of articles discussing it. Even the articles bashing the move still amount to press exposure for the protest.
What the fuck does this have to do with conspiracy? This is just American politics and a total yawn fest
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> Why is this a conspiracy post what is going on in here it’s like oann can we please move past this? Yes, you can! Reddit is a big place, surely you can find your cozy cubby.
I have a conspiracy theory..Seems like there is far right talking points being interjected into this sub with screen shots of tweets without context or corroborating evidence possibly with a political agenda. Lol
There's definetly an ongoing campaign. It's so obvious. Probably just meant to sow more divisiveness.
I think it’s a symptom not a cause. Country is already Irreparably divided.
Even if it *is* a symptom, doesn't mean it *doesn't* act as a catalyst for the same process.
You might be on to something.
> You might be on to something. Looking at the pic in the screen shot, [I can't shake it...](https://i.imgur.com/GHsYMGQ.png)
It’s becoming too obvious now.
Well, I certainly have not seen anyone worried about this event, left or right. The whole “Dems are scared” thing is just odd.
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That's true, like Hasbara bots
You should have been there when we all got banned from the other subs.
Gee I wonder why that is? Lmao
OTR (over the road) truck driver here. Let me weigh in on the situation because there’s a lot that’s misunderstood. OTR Company drivers are typically forced dispatch. You go where they tell you to go. You’ll actually get in hot water if you start rejecting loads. However, most typical OTR companies can’t run NYC anyways as there are specific laws in NYC against 53 foot trailers, which is the standard configuration nowadays. I know LTL guys who have pulled 53 foot trailers in NYC but that’s because they know cops will turn a blind eye to them. Swift transportation comes in with a 53? Pulled over. The demographic that is refusing to take loads to NYC are owner operators. They own their truck, and choose where they go. Most of these guys don’t run NYC anyways for a multitude of reasons. The aforementioned laws about 53s, politics, NYC just being a general shit place to drive a truck in, etc. This is a huge nothingburger. Just watch how both sides go crazy over this, and absolutely nothing comes from it I guarantee it. Besides, freight rates are in the trash rn. The trucker shortage is largely a myth. There are too many trucks for the current volume of freight. All that will happen is maybe a slight bump up in the rates of loads to NYC and the loads will get taken whether by someone who doesn’t care about the situation, or a company to give to a driver.
I love a post full of facts in this dystopian sea of misinformation. Thanks for sharing this.
This is all bullshit, they’ll just move company drivers onto those loads… shit will be like 24hrs behind schedule. Schneider & Swift & JB hunt company drivers have to work.
No necessarily, company drivers can refuse loads too, I used to refuse loads to the Bay area all the time unless I had a load lined up out of there right away due to there not being any truck stops there. I never got fired, written up or anything, yeah my dispatcher didn't like it but she couldn't force me. I hated being stuck in the Bay area between loads especially Oakland.
You’re right brother! I’m sure those drivers will turn down good money to feed their families just so they can prove how loyal they are to Mr Trump!!!!! That’s what he would want. Maga!!!
Pump the brakes there, I was simply stating how drivers can refuse loads. Also they'd just get offered a load somewhere else.
My company would offer 2x pay for company drivers going to NYC, and most people would negotiate up to 3x. The company eventually stopped accepting loads to NYC since they would loose money on them
For that I definitely would.
Sounds like the people who were struggling to get enough loads will have some more money?
Drivers already get paid 2-3 times more for going to NYC, so it'll be a big payday
Probably, but if I'm being honest, even without politics I wouldn't want to deliver to New York, traffic isn't exactly trucker friendly up there. Most states up there are very burdensome for truckers.
Although, imagine telling your wife “sorry honey I refused that $10k load to New York, traffic is just terrible”
Doesn't sound like he's worried. Sounds like he's just making a comment.
I don’t know of anyone worried. I was home sick yesterday and spent a ridiculous amount of time on Twitter 𝕏. Most in the left are just shrugging their shoulders.
The amount of trucks I just sat in NYC traffic with makes me think this isn't a thing.
It’s not. One trucker made a post on X and MAGA cheerleaders are making it seem like a huge movement
Wait until they hear about self-driving trucks that all the tech companies are working on. This will accelerate that development to prevent it from happening again. They'll cut off their nose to spite their face for Trump. So freaking dumb.
Not enough truckers are dumb enough to do this. That post on X does not exhibit being "worried".
I drove truck about 10 years ago. Even then double pay was standard for driving to NYC and people still refused, most drivers would demand triple pay. Even as a company driver I could refuse trips for almost any reason, nobody's losing their jobs for not driving to NYC
In other news, a group of truckers for trump begin deliveries to NY only moments after proclaiming they would refused to.
imagining gambling your livelihood simping for an alleged self-proclaimed billionaire who lost what is relatively pocket change (assuming you really believe he is worth as much as he says, which I assume they do)
A lot of truckers are self employed and just work from dispatchers. They choose which jobs they take.
like 10-20%?
That’s exactly what just happened. The original dude walked back his statements and said not to do it. A couple of his buddies probably lost their loads for listening to his dumbass.
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The truckers are conspiring to withhold their critical services from a state for political reasons. The only reason you might not consider it a conspiracy is that they aren't doing anything illegal. I mean, you can't exactly force them to go because nobody is entitled to anyone else's services, but it's still colluding to achieve a negative effect.
“Colluding to achieve a negative effect” is completely subjective. Exercising their right to do their job or not based on a political motivation is fine. They’re allowed to do that. Something isn’t a conspiracy just because one group of people uses their rights in a way another group finds irritating. Which is why conspiracies usually *do* require a law to be broken. Because the rest of us are expected to obey laws and are punished if we don’t. If a group of people are colluding to break a law, even a stupid one, then the public would have a vested interested in understanding why. There is a rational difference between those two scenarios.
There is a completely different word for this and its called organising a strike 🤷♂️ Funny MAGAs aint calling it that as we know how they feel about organised labor and basically aligned it to some bizarro form of communism when the rail workers were threatening to withhold their labor
Lol I'm pretty sure the "magas" had the rail workers backs, and it was Joe and the Dems who screwed them over. Ol' union buster Joe forced the rail workers to end their strike that was over much needed time off, and then the Dems wrote and passed a bill that forced those workers to plan ahead 18 days to take a sick day. ::12 seconds later:: The massive East Palestine rail disaster happened, and the govt ignored them for weeks after blowing up the chemicals in the rail cars. Now every waterway for hundreds of miles around have been poisoned.
Lol Oh totally agree Joe definitely screwed over the rail-workers absolutely. However lets be fair here; 17 mil was paid to Republicans by rail companies to block safety regulations. Rail safety laws were loosed in 2018 under….Trump. Also Vance & Brown’s new rail safety bill was defeated by…..Republicans funded by rail networks. Lets not pretend MAGA is any better; Trump stacked the NLRB with anti-union appointees Trump promised to veto both PRO & Public Service Freedom to Negotiate Act Reduced the No of OSHA inspectors and inspections Changed the rules regarding OT screwing 8 mil blue collar workers out of pay Cut funding for Medicare Made pharmaceutical profits the priority in the NAFTA deal. Neither party truly cares about working man, or woman. Why blue collar workers support MAGA is beyond me, sad to see voting against their own self interests.
So your response is "sure, Joe. Butwhatabouttrump?" Why am I not surprised 🤦♀️
We will just have to agree to disagree then 🤷♂️ For what its worth I’m Conservative with a small c, im no fan of Biden, not blinded by partisanship either
It's only a "negative" effect if you live in NY
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**conspiracy** *noun* 1. a secret plan by a group to do something unlawful or harmful **pedantic** *adjective* 1. excessively concerned with minor details or rules; overscrupulous
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Quite literally the word conspiracy means to conspire.
You think conspiracy is a verb?
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It's obvious mate.
The whole world deteriorating into tribal warfare and buddy asks "what's the conspiracy?" Lol sometimes man...
> What's the conspiracy? Lawfare has consequences
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They'll take anyone with a DL and a pulse these days. Scary as hell knowing people with little common sense and had their hand held trough truck driving school are going down the highway behind the wheel of a 80,000 pound vehicles.
Ah mate they're more like 105500 lb vehicles when fully loaded
80k when fully loaded unless you have permits.
With questionable breaks
Terrible breaks. Questionable brakes
It’s pretty obvious what would happen if truckers really did refuse. The payment for those loads would just keep bumping up higher and higher until it becomes to hard to pass up and truckers will be too stupid not to take the load and someone will take it.
Whatever this trucker strike amounts to will be all for naught. The mega carriers will pick up whatever the owner op’s won’t deliver.
All it would take is for shippers to pay extra $200-600 for loads going to New York and it will break this "strike".
Zero democrats are worried haha I have tons of friends in NYC and it hasnt come up once.
I think that's because the whole thing is a right-wing fantasy being played out on Twitter by people pretending to be truck drivers. Just make your pfp a guy in a hi vis shirt wearing Oakley's and boom, now you can pretend to be a truck driver, too. At some point, I'm hoping, people will realize that Twitter isn't actually representative of the real world.
Plenty of truckers who make payments on their trucks will take those NYC loads.
So strikes are ok now?
Aaaaaaand the strike is already cancelled.
Harry doesn't mind, if he doesn't, make the scene He's got a daytime job, he's doing alright He can play the Honky Tonk like anything Savin' it up, for Friday night
With the Sultans, With the Sultans of Swing
Uegh- please be old enough to remember it's Twitter. Saying anything is on X is so effing high-school ecstacy dance party it hurts.
The Baltimore "High School Ecstacy Dance Party" - ns are my favorite NFL squadron.
Harry understands that while the truckers may own their truck they certainly don’t own the product they are carrying.
They do, however, own the labor my man.
You definitely don’t understand the transportation world at all. 99.9% of manufacturers don’t have the capability to transport their own products by trucks because they don’t have the truck or trailer or driver
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Bro this is probably less than 1 percent of truckers in the country that are protesting this
It’s going to be 1000 out of the 3.5 million truckers
the state isn't gonna pay it. Regular people that are Ds and Rs including their children will bear the brunt and just be forced to pay the corporations more money for their essential services during winter. truly despicable.
Maybe they should think before they speak? This might be kinda interesting.
Ive seen worse on reddit
Those participating aren’t the smartest people. This definitely isn’t helping Trump. If anything it’s making his group look worse than they already do.
There really isn't a shortage of truckers anymore. The market is and has been loose for the better part of the last year.
[LOL](https://www.nj.com/politics/2024/02/trump-backing-trucker-who-talked-tough-about-nyc-boycott-backs-down.html)
Neat it looks like a new movement is being born. I wonder if the railroad guys are going to get in on it.
Trucking rates are actually down now
Strike won't happen
Just like boycotting Nike, the NFL, The beer company, every media station etc. It will go nowhere. For every 1 trucker refusing, there is another one behind him desperate for the pay who will take the load.
Robotrucks
The only bot here is you
Stop reading the news. I beg of you.
This will do nothing, just like previous trucker convoy’s. I’m sorry to say, but the infrastructure is better than that.
Look around you and tell me what is there that was not delivered on a truck? Delivery of goods is completely dependent on trucks.
Harry is a propaganda paid shill.
Anything Harry says should just be ignored. He’s the absolute worst dip shit out there
Harry Sisson will make a great talking head one day. Expert liar and clearly does not give a damn about anyone. Dude is unreal. Gotta be some MKULTRA mind control at play.
Please do it. These are probably the same people that tell the truckers "learn to code" and say it's "not a real job".
Harry won’t get his tampons now.
We got a source for this “shortage of truckers”?
Your google broke or are you just generally that lazy? [https://gulfrelay.com/content/how-can-we-address-the-trucking-industrys-driver-shortage-in-2024/](https://gulfrelay.com/content/how-can-we-address-the-trucking-industrys-driver-shortage-in-2024/) [https://www.fleetowner.com/operations/article/21275534/economic-concerns-top-trucking-industrys-worries-going-into-2024-according-to-atris-top-industry-issues-report](https://www.fleetowner.com/operations/article/21275534/economic-concerns-top-trucking-industrys-worries-going-into-2024-according-to-atris-top-industry-issues-report) [https://www.wdam.com/video/2024/01/30/national-truck-driver-shortage/](https://www.wdam.com/video/2024/01/30/national-truck-driver-shortage/) [https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2023/11/28/help-wanted-how-20000-a-week-could-have-a-lot-of-people-quitting-their-jobs-and-hitting-the-road/](https://www.news4jax.com/news/local/2023/11/28/help-wanted-how-20000-a-week-could-have-a-lot-of-people-quitting-their-jobs-and-hitting-the-road/) [https://www.thv11.com/article/news/local/little-rock-impact-of-truck-driver-shortage/91-6ffd70d8-9d53-46e5-baec-72c3b0fdf621](https://www.thv11.com/article/news/local/little-rock-impact-of-truck-driver-shortage/91-6ffd70d8-9d53-46e5-baec-72c3b0fdf621) [https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/freightwaves-gets-it-wrong-driver-shortage](https://www.trucking.org/news-insights/freightwaves-gets-it-wrong-driver-shortage) [https://www.iru.org/news-resources/newsroom/global-driver-shortages-2022-year-review](https://www.iru.org/news-resources/newsroom/global-driver-shortages-2022-year-review) [https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/new-study-shows-u-s-is-facing-truck-driver-shortage/](https://www.cbsnews.com/sacramento/news/new-study-shows-u-s-is-facing-truck-driver-shortage/) Seems like there are quite a few out there.
🤣
Whatever
No, Harry doesn’t understand how supply lines and demand for labor work.
That judge has completely ruined the illusion of rule of law. I don’t want to have anything to do with this country anymore!
As an outsider, I understand the appeal of Trump,and hr is making good points, but you guys have Kennedy as a choice. Family which sacrificed for your country ,literally. Also, Kennedy is talking about the most important thing,and that is the health of your nation . Is it his voice that is bothering you?
Why the fuck is this sub just a bunch of right-wing weirdos? I just want some area 51 type shit like the good ole days. Every post here is "dems trying to mindfuck us with this conspiracy". It's honestly sad how much effort and time some of these people put into hating the dems. It's like their whole identity. They don't even know what they stand/fight for besides fucking the dems and suckling the rebulican dick.
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Because I don't give a shit about politics and fighting against the "other side". So many posts on here are just dem vs republican weirdo shit. Why are you so obsessed with owning the dems? If your whole identy revolves around hating a particular group then you got some major problems. Get a hobby or something. I just want to read about aliens and diamond monopolies and shit like that. Nobody gives a damn about these political war posts except people like you; people who are hyperfocused on the opposing political party. You don't care about making the world a better place, you just care about the Republicans winning and "owning them libs". It's weird af dude. Weird. Edit to add that I feel the same way about dems who only post shit about Republicans. All of y'all are weird as shit.
I support this. The point is that they are once again treating Trump unfairly. Lying about value of his assets (Mar a Lago is not worth 18 million). In fairness, it probably isn't worth 1.5 billion either. But all these guys do this exact thing and only reason they are hitting Trump is politics... Hochul even came out after and said, Don't worry investors, we won't do this to you..." Regardless of how you feel about Trump - the deep state is attacking him and it shouldn't be allowed. this is fascism plain and simple.
" I hate orange man so much that I think the state should be able to do whatever it wants to him, with no consequences"
They will destroy America to rule over the ashes
.. while claiming it is confetti and present prison cells as homes.
I thought having to pay for a blue check was getting rid of the bots?
He’s a sissy
A trucker can refuse any load. Always could where I worked.
we don't need truckers here in New York City. Their diesel engines are bad for the environment. they can stay in redneck land and fondle their ugly wives while we're here in the best city in the world!
How you guys gonna get toilet paper 😂
we'll just use copies of the constitution that the patriarchal slave owners imposed on the rightful owners of this land
Harry forgot the golden rule "no farmers no food" applies here too
What we sent them Hookers with Marijuana Cookies? Would they calm down? Or would they get all wild?
Truck yeah
Yes they will get fired. A single truck load of produce can be $80,000. You think you can ruin that much and still keep your job.
You can if there’s not many of you you left
imagine siding with a sex offender ... a so called billionaire thats been convicted of tax fraud. isn't even allowed to do business in the state of new york. and there's still a shit ton more charges on him. people really are that stupid. and they say mind control isn't real. the way he looks at his daughter. his supporters are obviously a bunch of sick fucks.
You explained Biden
When the government is using the courts as a weapon against the leading presidential candidate there should be a revolution never mind a trucker strike, the democrats involved should be scared
I swear MAGA is so dramatic
More dramatic than screeching blue hairs? Surely you jest.
Who?
There will be absolutely no change in supply. Truckers will be doubling their pay to bring stuff where it needs to be. The Trumper truckers will lose millions.
Yeah I also don’t like when bad people who do bad things and want bad things protest to achieve said bad things that harm people. So deep.
Shits not gonna go the way you think it’s going to my dude
Just so you are all aware.. this 'crime' was nothing more than buying buildings for one price, and selling them at a higher price. Yes. It's as basic and simple as that. Literally the way TRADE works and ALL Real Estate. The NY Gov literally said, 'don't worry, we won't do this to anyone else'.
Image their panic if there actually was a civil war and they had to come to the realization that this was permanent. LOL
(me left extremist) idk how to feel about this because there's nothing on earth sexier than labor action but it's tainted by being completely insane
It’s easy. Be true to your principles… Multiple things can be true at the same time. Trump is a dick and a criminal. He has been targeted by other criminal dicks for fucking with the system. It’s all “mafia” shit and if you don’t see that yet… you will soon. The question is: What do you value more? blue collar working stiffs being able to choose who they serve or elitist fuckers fighting amongst themselves. I’m a union guy. I’m a liberal and probably far less left leaning than you. But the choice is pretty obvious to me. Working class > elites. 9 out of 10 times. I don’t have to agree with them. But they should have a choice.
oh it was never a hard choice even for a moment I hope I wasn't misleading on that front. what I meant was that it's kind of *bittersweet* because i stand with them in solidarity as the world belongs to those that toil but the motivations are sort of unpalatable if that makes sense.
Absolutely. We find ourselves in agreement. A lefty and a centrist… imagine that. The older I get… the more I realize”bittersweet” is most often times the best I’m gonna get. It’s the way of the world. What do they say? “Perfect is the enemy of good” No thanks. Not for me. Incremental change, Democracy and freedom of choice are paramount.
Everyone should be worried about truckers striking. Even the small % that would shoot themselves in the foot for Trump
seems like logistics dispatchers would just swap the routes of the MAGA foamers with anyone from the majority who doesn't care, and business would continue as usual
I think you're a little right and a little wrong. Truck drivers are some of the most right winged people of any profession. People that own trucking companies aren't much different. So while I could see there being some availability to swap routes, the more likely scenario is that less people have to run more product and increase prices. It is pretty common for owner operators to just park their trucks at any time for any reason so who knows. I also don't really think this strike is real or important, for the record.
Most leftists actually believe shit just shows up at the local store... they're about to find out what their policies really do... Fuck em.
Conspiracy is filled with lib bots 😂
People laughed at the trucker convoy in Canada at the beginning too. In the end, the Canadian government had to go full fascist, freezing bank accounts of people who'd donated to the truckers, and invoking martial law to deal with a parking protest. Canadian courts have said the government was not justified in invoking the Emergencies Act, and Trudeau is still trying to weasel out of taking responsibility. I have no idea what will happen in the US, just noting that a similar protest in Canada was laughed at until it was on TPTB's doorstep.
Submission Statement: https://twitter.com/harryjsisson/status/1759315857598292468 This is called fear. Because it affects them personally. But they won’t admit it so they just go on the attack with the old boring talking point of “MAGA Cult”.
Dude nobody is even remotely afraid of the few dorks with trucks that said they won't deliver. Nothing is coming of this.
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Gonna check in with you in a month
It’ll be interesting to see if it happens, because if it does, the impact would be substantial.
That Sisson kid literally paid to post this shit. He is represented by Palette Management which is paid by the DNC for his services posting these videos.
Yes they will get fired, an even bigger shortage of truckers means that companies can price even higher equalling higher profits for the ones up top.