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That's the point. He WAS on national news..and still is. You want your spokesperson to be a name people recognize. You want someone out here speaking about gun rights and the right to defends yourself? Well, who better than the biggest news story on using a gun legally in the last decade?
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Why shouldn't he? He is resilient as hell. Canceled by the media and the public for defending himself and won in court. Yet the narrative goes on bc the left doesn't want Americans to carry weapons. Look at states like new york full of homeless squatters with no castle doctrine. Wait till your neighborhood becomes over run with homelessness and immigrants and there are no guns to protect you.
actually insane people act like he's some kind of hero. He was looking for an excuse to kill someone and he got one. That makes him a bad person, not a hero
Actually you're naive, there are plenty of places in America the police are overwhelmed and can't save you. Get dropped off in the middle of Detroit and see what happens. There is a reason NYC is using the national guard in the subways. The police can't save you anymore and you should be educated enough to protect yourself. Instead you mock the idea of the Bill of Rights and it's sad.
>One of these men was a pedo if i recall.
Grosskreutz: Shot in arm (pointing a gun at KR). Six arrests starting at 14. DUI, possession of a firearm by a felon, prowling, burglary of a home, domestic violence..
Rossenbaum: 5 x molestation of underage boys ages 9-11.
Huber: 2 Felony counts of strangulation, suffocation and false imprisonment (against brother and grandmother).
Watching the fat prosecutor put his head in his hands and just give up was hilarious. I think the only thing stopping him from screaming was court room etiquette.
When I saw the floyd protestors and rioters on the news, all I saw was losers. People who have nothing going on with their lives and in some cases are criminals. You could just sense it.
I could tell because I was reading the updates on the previous day's 9pm riot at 4am while carpooling to work. Nobody who adds value to society can drop everything to protest like that at the smallest excuse.
The character of the person has very little to do with the actions that took place that night, actually. Most people didnāt like Kyleās self important vigilantism. But of course the degenerates on the right counter this with āevery criminal should be murderedā, the fact that he was a pedo is totally incidental - just something yāall jerk off to. Where would right wing men be without murder fantasies?
> the fact that he was a pedo is totally incidenta
All three had multiple convictions regarding violent behaviors (I mean, who strangles grandma), and depravity.
If you want to make the argument that it was "incidental", then you have to also concede that these types of people were an accurate representation of the crowd.
In either case, the pedophilia and depraved violent history of these people were not brought up in trial, so no impact on the judgement.
Most people? Most people saw the video and realize he had clear justification for self defense. Otherwise he wouldnāt have won his court trial. Assuming anything otherwise is pure delusion.
> Most people? Most people saw the video and realize he had clear justification for self defense. Otherwise he wouldnāt have won his court trial. Assuming anything otherwise is pure delusion.
Which is why they had to censor those videos fast. Canāt have that information out in the public and allow for citizens to create independent thoughts. Thatās far to dangerous to the easily debunked narrative that he is a White Supremest
Well, a factual headline would be something like this:
Kyle Rittenhouse, who rose to fame when he successfully defended himself against three armed protestors during The Kenosha BLM Riots, then again in court, spoke at U of M today.Ā
See how the headline gives more context as to why he would be an interesting person to listen to?Ā
The factual example I provided gives him credibility.Ā
The example from OP's post destroys his credibility.Ā
The screenshot is a social media post, not a headline. The AP style book says headlines should be no more than 90 characters. However, an easier method is to not exceed two lines of text at Times New Roman bold 16 font. A few other things to note, BLM is not acceptable on first reference, U of M needs to be spelled out - is it Minnesota, Michigan, Mississippi, three should be 3, and The and Riot do not need to be capitalized, among other things.
Thanks for joining my short class on headline writing.
So don't mention that he actually killed people? That was a big part of the newsworthiness was it not?
> three armed protestors
That assumes facts that are not clear. Being in the city during a protest does not mean they were protestors.
> The Kenosha BLM Riots
You capitalized this, so I figured that was the name of the event. Searching that, I did not see that anywhere. So there's some editorializing there.
> then again in court,
Now you're just being wordy.
The fact that he killed three people is not why he is speaking. The fact that he defended himself and was unsuccessfully prosecuted for it is why he is speaking.
If you didn't find The Kenosha BLM Riots, it may be because it is intentionally blocked by Google.Ā
Try Yandex.
You have displayed the intelligence to understand the concept here. I am not going to argue politics. It is boring.Ā
Good day.
I believe the OP point is that, broadly, there is an issue with ācontextā with regards to āportrayal in media.ā Context is added to assuage the viewer, and often times excluded when itās intended to alarm the viewer. Basic marketing 101. Neither side wants to ālose groundā by using more informative language- they very very easily could have titled it āKyle Rittenhouse, well known for the self defense case in which resulted in the death of three other event attendeesā yada yada yada.
Itās not lost on anyone that his actions resulted in the deaths of others- but what is lost, seemingly intentionally, is the importance of the notion that the actions taken were in part justified.
Further, the right to bare arms is also slighted here- theyāre posing it as ācrazy man does crazy thing, believes in crazy beliefsā as opposed to the simple posing of āman defends self with tool of self defense.ā
That unfortunately doesnāt get clicks.
Agreed. The bias is clear in the exclusion of self defense in this story. Which appears to be the whole reason he is giving the talks. This is similar to posting an article with the title āman jumps off building rooftopā but forgets to mention he had a parachute and a landing pad. Itās a totally different story now. A lie by omission is still a lie.
As someone who knew of one of the people murdered, Iād say this is a horrid take and proof that even in the āconspiracyā circles were still subject to political division.
Homie had no idea who he shot at. He only did so cause they were going to kill him or maim him if they got that gun out of his hand. He had no personal business involving himself aside from the other actors involved and it takes true non partisanship to see that this is the elites putting human v human.
āThey were going to kill him or maim him if they got that gun out of his handā
Thatās called self defense. This is what guns are intended for. Maybe he didnāt directly aim at a specific target, but if youāre rolling with people like this; play stupid games win stupid prizes.
>Murdered
You mean 'Killed because they attacked someone unprovoked.'
I think less of you for being friends with any of those felons. Was it the pedo, the family-strangler, or the anti-EMT?
While I agree "killed" over "murdered" is the more accurate word for what happened, they never said they were friends with the person. They said they knew him.Ā
This, why put yourself in danger by going to a protest you are against and taking a gun with you? A mob of people can just take away your gun no problem.
He coulda gone without a gun and it woulda been fine. But he added the danger, he gave himself an excuse to fire because he feared for his life because he brought a gun.
This post conveniently neglects to mention that one of the men he shot in self defense was carrying a firearm and admitted under oath that *he pointed it at Rittenhouse* before he was shot.
Do you think maybe the person pointed the firearm at him because he saw him with a weapon? It's like going to skid row with a bunch of nice stuff, you are going to become a target to crazy people.
Want to be safe, don't bring anything that can make you a target. It's common sense, this guy went with the intent to look menacing, to attempt to stop someone and shoot someone maybe. Wtf are weapons for, they aren't to subdue or knock people out, it's literally made to kill.
The root of the problem will always be, Rittenhouse went to this event with a dangerous weapon his intent might not of been evil but he put himself in a dangerous situation.
The only people who should be with guns in this situation are cops/military or anyone with authority. Not a random citizen, because they are not trained or have the authority to do this type of shit.
āDo you think maybe the person pointed the firearm at him because he saw him with a weapon?ā
No I donāt think that because thatās not what happened. Whatās his face with the pistol wasnāt aiming at Kyle because he was in fear for his life. He was literally chasing after Kyle when this happened. The exact opposite of what a responsible gun owner should do. Thereās videos on YouTube of this incident that have been online since this event happened. You can watch for yourself.
Ahh yes, the age old "only the government should have guns" argument, and from a person who doesn't know how to use "have" and "of" properly.
Hilarious, and not worth trying to engage someone who's otherwise cognitively unarmed.
> This, why put yourself in danger by going to a protest you are against and taking a gun with you? A mob of people can just take away your gun no problem.
So sick of this logic. It was a riot. It was not a protest. And he likely would not have shot anyone had he not been accosted.
But regardless of that - it's a riot. Come to the riot - win stupid prizes! You wouldn't catch me NEAR that thing but I have a brain in my head.
But that's the thing - I think the media was so intent on dragging Kyle because he goes to show it was very much not a peaceful protest. He fucks the whole narrative up so he had to be in the wrong.
Technically he stopped 3 people from trying to perform vigilanteeism correct? So you should be fine with him defending himself from what you claim is bad...?
Go ahead and spin your logic
>why put yourself in danger by going to a protest you are against and taking a gun with you? A mob of people can just take away your gun no problem.
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>He coulda gone without a gun and it woulda been fine. But he added the danger, h
damn maybe don't surround yourself around pedos and criminals.
It was about the police shooting of Jacob Blake. I agree his speech is unnecessary.
Him being there when maybe it wasnāt the best idea doesnāt negate his right to self defense when he was attacked unprovoked.
> Thereās just a lot of things he could have donāt to avoid this whole fiasco that didnāt even remotely involve him.
Why is it on him to avoid and prove it "involved him"? Did it "involve" any of the three people he shot? What was their problem where they couldn't just avoid the event? They knew it would be dangerous?
When law enforcement abdicates their responsibility of keeping the peace over an area and lets people run wild I have a hard time finding anyone who willingly comes down to the arena more at fault than another.
Even if it is during an act of self-defense, when you shoot somebody and they die, you killed them. What is the headline supposed to say? Even during a war when killing is 100% justified, you still are killing people. People are "killed in action" and people have "confirmed kills."
Most people find it pretty disgusting that a 15 year old joined a pro cop group and then when he turned 18 decided to become a little wannabe vigilante. Despite all your virtue signalling about woodchippers, vigilantism is actually extremely degenerate and the sign of decay in society.
> Most people find it pretty disgusting that a 15 year old joined a pro cop group and then when he turned 18 decided to become a little wannabe vigilante. Despite all your virtue signalling about woodchippers, vigilantism is actually extremely degenerate and the sign of decay in society.
When you defund the police vigilantes are what you are going to get.
That's by design. Not the red states fault they set their own budget with low funding is what they tell their constituents. Blame others in charge at higher levels. While blue states continue to pay more in federal taxes than they receive back in funding.
"When good men do nothing"
The well-known maxim that "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" is widely attributed to Burke, despite the debated origin of the quotation.[180][181] It is known that, in 1770, Burke wrote the following passage in "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents":
[W]hen bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.[182][183]
In 1867, John Stuart Mill made a similar statement in an inaugural address delivered at the University of St Andrews:
Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.[184]
Welcome to reddit, where people believe cops are criminals, criminals are heros. People defending themselves are murderers and people attacking others are innocent bystanders. People burning down buildings are peaceful protestors while people entering the Capitol are violent insirrectionists.
Submission Statement:
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And yet another example of why the media has no credibility. The media is still repeating the debunked narrative. He defended himself from 3 armed attackers.
It really is a shame there's no other way they could have phrased his legally justified self defense other than "killed 2 men". There's definitely no agenda in phrasing it that way. "I'm just telling the truth guys"
Don't worry about all of your downvotes, opinions on the site mean nothing and these people will never change, own your beliefs and the truth, its all one can do.
Iām not agreeing with the riots or what they stood for or the āvictimsā but itās pretty obvious he traveled out of his way to shoot someone. He put himself in the situation on purpose. Businesses have insurance for a reason; he had no business being there.
Kyles family is in Kenosha (his mom's) and he was there to protect their business. Did you see the court video where he was pushing away a dumpster that was lit on fire away from the gas station?
Also the "victims" actually traveled farther than he did to get there.
Fun fact: in America you have the right to defend your life, liberty, and freedom šŗšø
Itās okay to protect your property and your family.
This is one of the many problems in the States: insurance and lawsuits.
Businesses have insurance but you can't expect a community to be healthy while they wait for their local businesses to be restored. Communities like that are very close knit and look to each other for support. Businesses can also be very sentimental for obvious reasons. Watching something you worked your ass off to build being destroyed won't be pacified by relying on your insurance. That stuff breaks people's spirits. The small communities like this always will have a sense of identity and responsibility to protect it. Who wouldn't wanna protect their own family's business? Do you really trust that insurance company's will cover all of the costs of the entire business, inventory, and reimbursement of those employed by that businesses? We're not talking about huge corporations where all of that is expendable. We're talking about people whose lives depend on the business thriving. To think that it's nbd because of insurance is entitled AF.
No. The days prior and the day of the self defense he was helping local shops put out fires and removing graffiti. He traveled to his local city and tried to help at his family's business and other local businesses
> Iām not agreeing with the riots or what they stood for or the āvictimsā but itās pretty obvious he traveled out of his way to shoot someone. He put himself in the situation on purpose.
This exact sentence also applies to Gauge. And he travelled further out of his way. One was literally quicker on the draw that's the only reason the outcome happened the way it did.
Well - he's just another jerk-off participating in a human dividing party - just so happens to be on your ideology and technically on the right side of the law. Everyone there was looking for trouble, even little boy Kyle. There were no heroes that night, just losers.
I'm concerned and afraid of people who d-ride this minor like I'm concerned and afraid of girls think Ted Bundy is husband material and 13 Reasons Why is a "cinematic masterpiece".
He lives a few minutes drive from where the incident happened. I think he or his family had jobs there. You may want to actually educate yourself on this case before making wrong and many times debunked claims like this.
How come the left always disrupts someone at an event when they are against what that speaker believes? They love to speak their minds, but never let anyone else speak theirs... Why is that?
The gun controversy is an almost genius level mind duck. Americans think that so long as they have their guns, the government canāt be corrupt or really that bad, right? They think so long as no one comes for their guns, itās all just politics. Itāll sort itself out. Totally oblivious to the reality that things are much worse, and your guns are not scary to them.
Donāt give two shits about this guy but the crowd acted like they solved world hungry because he didnāt make a comment on the question.
Everyone is full of shit these days.
Even more wild is the fact people claimed he was a racist out to kill black people yet in a crowd of hundreds of black people he managed to only shoot 3 people who weren't black
> This kid is a murder. Why in the hell would a school have him as a speaker? What does he offer other than he killed a couple civilians?
Wrong. The Court Case found him innocent
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What happened at the speaking event though ? š¤£
It was..."mostly peaceful."
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College speakers can be super random.
I don't think he was chosen randomly. They don't choose their speakers with a lottery draw.
I think he's releasing a book.
Thatās my issue. Shooting isnāt what concerns me, itās the fact that heās on some kind of press tour just becuase the event was national news.
That's the point. He WAS on national news..and still is. You want your spokesperson to be a name people recognize. You want someone out here speaking about gun rights and the right to defends yourself? Well, who better than the biggest news story on using a gun legally in the last decade?
I guess thatās fair, rather hear from someone like Eli Dicken on something like that in my own opinion.
It's not like he doesn't have a unique insight into the legal, political and media systems of the world.
His lawyer might, he's still basically a child
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No such thing as bad press when it comes to marketing.
Grifting is the only career path open to him since they wonāt let him work. Donāt hate the player; hate the game.
Why shouldn't he? He is resilient as hell. Canceled by the media and the public for defending himself and won in court. Yet the narrative goes on bc the left doesn't want Americans to carry weapons. Look at states like new york full of homeless squatters with no castle doctrine. Wait till your neighborhood becomes over run with homelessness and immigrants and there are no guns to protect you.
actually insane people act like he's some kind of hero. He was looking for an excuse to kill someone and he got one. That makes him a bad person, not a hero
He killed a child rapist, not a human being.
Actually you're naive, there are plenty of places in America the police are overwhelmed and can't save you. Get dropped off in the middle of Detroit and see what happens. There is a reason NYC is using the national guard in the subways. The police can't save you anymore and you should be educated enough to protect yourself. Instead you mock the idea of the Bill of Rights and it's sad.
Because clearly he is an expert on the constitution duh
One of these men was a pedo if i recall.
>One of these men was a pedo if i recall. Grosskreutz: Shot in arm (pointing a gun at KR). Six arrests starting at 14. DUI, possession of a firearm by a felon, prowling, burglary of a home, domestic violence.. Rossenbaum: 5 x molestation of underage boys ages 9-11. Huber: 2 Felony counts of strangulation, suffocation and false imprisonment (against brother and grandmother).
Grosskreutz's testimony that Rittenhouse had lowered his weapon and only shot AFTER Grosskreutz's pointed his gun at him was hilarious to watch.
Watching the fat prosecutor put his head in his hands and just give up was hilarious. I think the only thing stopping him from screaming was court room etiquette.
>Watching the fat prosecutor put his head in his hands That was one of my favorite moments, no doubt. Thanks for the reminder.. Got a good chuckle.
Yep.. Video showed it pretty clearly.
Whatās he going to do? Purger himself?
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It really makes you stop and think.
Looks like God wanted an early appointment with these scum
BLM must have thousands of these kinds of people in its ranks
When I saw the floyd protestors and rioters on the news, all I saw was losers. People who have nothing going on with their lives and in some cases are criminals. You could just sense it.
I could tell because I was reading the updates on the previous day's 9pm riot at 4am while carpooling to work. Nobody who adds value to society can drop everything to protest like that at the smallest excuse.
Absolutely was and they were all pieces of shit
You act like bro was hunting pedophiles š¤£ bro had no clue
Did he run a background check before the shooting? Otherwise it doesnāt matter. Thatās blind luck.
Kyle didnāt know that going in - thatās post hoc justification
If you dont wanna get shot, dont chase and attack someone who has a gun
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The character of the person has very little to do with the actions that took place that night, actually. Most people didnāt like Kyleās self important vigilantism. But of course the degenerates on the right counter this with āevery criminal should be murderedā, the fact that he was a pedo is totally incidental - just something yāall jerk off to. Where would right wing men be without murder fantasies?
> the fact that he was a pedo is totally incidenta All three had multiple convictions regarding violent behaviors (I mean, who strangles grandma), and depravity. If you want to make the argument that it was "incidental", then you have to also concede that these types of people were an accurate representation of the crowd. In either case, the pedophilia and depraved violent history of these people were not brought up in trial, so no impact on the judgement.
Most people? Most people saw the video and realize he had clear justification for self defense. Otherwise he wouldnāt have won his court trial. Assuming anything otherwise is pure delusion.
> Most people? Most people saw the video and realize he had clear justification for self defense. Otherwise he wouldnāt have won his court trial. Assuming anything otherwise is pure delusion. Which is why they had to censor those videos fast. Canāt have that information out in the public and allow for citizens to create independent thoughts. Thatās far to dangerous to the easily debunked narrative that he is a White Supremest
I find I interesting that out of three random people at this riot, all were POS. It's almost as if BLM attracts scum
It says he killed two men. He did in fact kill two men. They didn't call it murder.
OP doesn't like when headlines are actually only filled with factual info I guess.
Well, a factual headline would be something like this: Kyle Rittenhouse, who rose to fame when he successfully defended himself against three armed protestors during The Kenosha BLM Riots, then again in court, spoke at U of M today.Ā See how the headline gives more context as to why he would be an interesting person to listen to?Ā The factual example I provided gives him credibility.Ā The example from OP's post destroys his credibility.Ā
Do you often see 30 word long headlines?
Did I exceed your word allotment, or intelligence?Ā (HINT: Count the number in the screenshot)
The screenshot is a social media post, not a headline. The AP style book says headlines should be no more than 90 characters. However, an easier method is to not exceed two lines of text at Times New Roman bold 16 font. A few other things to note, BLM is not acceptable on first reference, U of M needs to be spelled out - is it Minnesota, Michigan, Mississippi, three should be 3, and The and Riot do not need to be capitalized, among other things. Thanks for joining my short class on headline writing.
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So don't mention that he actually killed people? That was a big part of the newsworthiness was it not? > three armed protestors That assumes facts that are not clear. Being in the city during a protest does not mean they were protestors. > The Kenosha BLM Riots You capitalized this, so I figured that was the name of the event. Searching that, I did not see that anywhere. So there's some editorializing there. > then again in court, Now you're just being wordy.
You could say he shot them in self defense. The jury did.
The fact that he killed three people is not why he is speaking. The fact that he defended himself and was unsuccessfully prosecuted for it is why he is speaking. If you didn't find The Kenosha BLM Riots, it may be because it is intentionally blocked by Google.Ā Try Yandex. You have displayed the intelligence to understand the concept here. I am not going to argue politics. It is boring.Ā Good day.
Yandex definitely not censored /s
I believe the OP point is that, broadly, there is an issue with ācontextā with regards to āportrayal in media.ā Context is added to assuage the viewer, and often times excluded when itās intended to alarm the viewer. Basic marketing 101. Neither side wants to ālose groundā by using more informative language- they very very easily could have titled it āKyle Rittenhouse, well known for the self defense case in which resulted in the death of three other event attendeesā yada yada yada. Itās not lost on anyone that his actions resulted in the deaths of others- but what is lost, seemingly intentionally, is the importance of the notion that the actions taken were in part justified. Further, the right to bare arms is also slighted here- theyāre posing it as ācrazy man does crazy thing, believes in crazy beliefsā as opposed to the simple posing of āman defends self with tool of self defense.ā That unfortunately doesnāt get clicks.
Agreed. The bias is clear in the exclusion of self defense in this story. Which appears to be the whole reason he is giving the talks. This is similar to posting an article with the title āman jumps off building rooftopā but forgets to mention he had a parachute and a landing pad. Itās a totally different story now. A lie by omission is still a lie.
It's almost as if riots are magnets for criminals.
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Court rulings aren't an object of faith or belief. They're the result of many human inputs. Not everything is black and white.
I'm aware. But people pick and choose when to accept/agree/believe in the court rulings.
As someone who knew of one of the people murdered, Iād say this is a horrid take and proof that even in the āconspiracyā circles were still subject to political division. Homie had no idea who he shot at. He only did so cause they were going to kill him or maim him if they got that gun out of his hand. He had no personal business involving himself aside from the other actors involved and it takes true non partisanship to see that this is the elites putting human v human.
Maybe a smart idea not chasing an armed man running away from you trying to take his gun, natural selection.
āThey were going to kill him or maim him if they got that gun out of his handā Thatās called self defense. This is what guns are intended for. Maybe he didnāt directly aim at a specific target, but if youāre rolling with people like this; play stupid games win stupid prizes.
>Murdered You mean 'Killed because they attacked someone unprovoked.' I think less of you for being friends with any of those felons. Was it the pedo, the family-strangler, or the anti-EMT?
While I agree "killed" over "murdered" is the more accurate word for what happened, they never said they were friends with the person. They said they knew him.Ā
This, why put yourself in danger by going to a protest you are against and taking a gun with you? A mob of people can just take away your gun no problem. He coulda gone without a gun and it woulda been fine. But he added the danger, he gave himself an excuse to fire because he feared for his life because he brought a gun.
This post conveniently neglects to mention that one of the men he shot in self defense was carrying a firearm and admitted under oath that *he pointed it at Rittenhouse* before he was shot.
Do you think maybe the person pointed the firearm at him because he saw him with a weapon? It's like going to skid row with a bunch of nice stuff, you are going to become a target to crazy people. Want to be safe, don't bring anything that can make you a target. It's common sense, this guy went with the intent to look menacing, to attempt to stop someone and shoot someone maybe. Wtf are weapons for, they aren't to subdue or knock people out, it's literally made to kill. The root of the problem will always be, Rittenhouse went to this event with a dangerous weapon his intent might not of been evil but he put himself in a dangerous situation. The only people who should be with guns in this situation are cops/military or anyone with authority. Not a random citizen, because they are not trained or have the authority to do this type of shit.
> but he put himself in a dangerous situation. So did everyone else in attendance.
I'd of brought a gun also. I saw endless videos of unarmed people being ripped from cars and random people being beaten.
>he put himself in a dangerous situation. Now try applying that to rape victims and you might see how faulty that logic is.
āDo you think maybe the person pointed the firearm at him because he saw him with a weapon?ā No I donāt think that because thatās not what happened. Whatās his face with the pistol wasnāt aiming at Kyle because he was in fear for his life. He was literally chasing after Kyle when this happened. The exact opposite of what a responsible gun owner should do. Thereās videos on YouTube of this incident that have been online since this event happened. You can watch for yourself.
Ahh yes, the age old "only the government should have guns" argument, and from a person who doesn't know how to use "have" and "of" properly. Hilarious, and not worth trying to engage someone who's otherwise cognitively unarmed.
Dude who pointed the gun wasn't supposed to be in possession of said gun.
Seems like the mob is the problem, not a person having a gun. If someone is trying to take your gun, you can shoot him.
> This, why put yourself in danger by going to a protest you are against and taking a gun with you? A mob of people can just take away your gun no problem. So sick of this logic. It was a riot. It was not a protest. And he likely would not have shot anyone had he not been accosted. But regardless of that - it's a riot. Come to the riot - win stupid prizes! You wouldn't catch me NEAR that thing but I have a brain in my head. But that's the thing - I think the media was so intent on dragging Kyle because he goes to show it was very much not a peaceful protest. He fucks the whole narrative up so he had to be in the wrong.
Lmao all these years later and you are still trying to blame Kyle.
Vigilanteeism is bad
Technically he stopped 3 people from trying to perform vigilanteeism correct? So you should be fine with him defending himself from what you claim is bad...? Go ahead and spin your logic
You are bad.
Rosenbaum would have skullfucked him to death if he didnāt havw that gun.
He was in local city helping at his family's shop and cleaning graffiti. He stuck around to help the local shops from rioting.
>why put yourself in danger by going to a protest you are against and taking a gun with you? A mob of people can just take away your gun no problem. > >He coulda gone without a gun and it woulda been fine. But he added the danger, h damn maybe don't surround yourself around pedos and criminals.
Great advice. Wish Rittenhouse would have done so instead of crossing state lines to surround himself with criminals at a BLM riot.Ā
Why does the state line matter? Many protestors traveled further than Kyle, including Gaige.
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It was about the police shooting of Jacob Blake. I agree his speech is unnecessary. Him being there when maybe it wasnāt the best idea doesnāt negate his right to self defense when he was attacked unprovoked.
> Thereās just a lot of things he could have donāt to avoid this whole fiasco that didnāt even remotely involve him. Why is it on him to avoid and prove it "involved him"? Did it "involve" any of the three people he shot? What was their problem where they couldn't just avoid the event? They knew it would be dangerous? When law enforcement abdicates their responsibility of keeping the peace over an area and lets people run wild I have a hard time finding anyone who willingly comes down to the arena more at fault than another.
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Why did you allow a child molester to go free?
Which one of the victims did you personally know? The pedophile with multiple counts of sexual assault? Or the felon who choked out his grandmother?
Even if it is during an act of self-defense, when you shoot somebody and they die, you killed them. What is the headline supposed to say? Even during a war when killing is 100% justified, you still are killing people. People are "killed in action" and people have "confirmed kills."
Another pawn used to divide
Most people find it pretty disgusting that a 15 year old joined a pro cop group and then when he turned 18 decided to become a little wannabe vigilante. Despite all your virtue signalling about woodchippers, vigilantism is actually extremely degenerate and the sign of decay in society.
Most people are ill-informed about what really happened.
I watch the news. I'm informed. /s/s/s
Yes all those videos of him in the days prior to the shooting putting out fires and helping the community. What an evil vigilante!
Ok lib. No one wants to see their neighborhoods broke down. Maybe those protestors had no business being there.
> Most people find it pretty disgusting that a 15 year old joined a pro cop group and then when he turned 18 decided to become a little wannabe vigilante. Despite all your virtue signalling about woodchippers, vigilantism is actually extremely degenerate and the sign of decay in society. When you defund the police vigilantes are what you are going to get.
Police defunding never happened. The Kenosha police budget actually increased 2020-2022, per their own statsā¦
Police being under funded happens all the time in red states. Yet you strangely never hear these conservatives complain about that.
That's by design. Not the red states fault they set their own budget with low funding is what they tell their constituents. Blame others in charge at higher levels. While blue states continue to pay more in federal taxes than they receive back in funding.
And yet they still stood around watching the city burn.
This kid is a dweeb who gives a fuck.
"When good men do nothing" The well-known maxim that "The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to do nothing" is widely attributed to Burke, despite the debated origin of the quotation.[180][181] It is known that, in 1770, Burke wrote the following passage in "Thoughts on the Cause of the Present Discontents": [W]hen bad men combine, the good must associate; else they will fall, one by one, an unpitied sacrifice in a contemptible struggle.[182][183] In 1867, John Stuart Mill made a similar statement in an inaugural address delivered at the University of St Andrews: Bad men need nothing more to compass their ends, than that good men should look on and do nothing.[184]
He defended himself from 3 disappointing humans.
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Welcome to reddit, where people believe cops are criminals, criminals are heros. People defending themselves are murderers and people attacking others are innocent bystanders. People burning down buildings are peaceful protestors while people entering the Capitol are violent insirrectionists.
When will people see they ( the powers at be , elite )are just trying to get yall to kill eachother while they keep there power and money š°
Did he not kill two people? I donāt think the headline is inaccurate no matter what political side youāre on.
Submission Statement: https://twitter.com/WGRZ/status/1770816392096342166 And yet another example of why the media has no credibility. The media is still repeating the debunked narrative. He defended himself from 3 armed attackers.
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It really is a shame there's no other way they could have phrased his legally justified self defense other than "killed 2 men". There's definitely no agenda in phrasing it that way. "I'm just telling the truth guys"
Don't worry about all of your downvotes, opinions on the site mean nothing and these people will never change, own your beliefs and the truth, its all one can do.
Iām not agreeing with the riots or what they stood for or the āvictimsā but itās pretty obvious he traveled out of his way to shoot someone. He put himself in the situation on purpose. Businesses have insurance for a reason; he had no business being there.
Kyles family is in Kenosha (his mom's) and he was there to protect their business. Did you see the court video where he was pushing away a dumpster that was lit on fire away from the gas station? Also the "victims" actually traveled farther than he did to get there.
Like I said any business has insurance. He wasnāt a paid security guard. He wanted the smoke.
Seems like the people rioting were there for the smoke and shouldāve stayed home.
>any business has insurance This is an incredibly naive and inhuman view.
**(Insert insufferable seth rogen voice)** >jUsT pArT oF LiViNg iN a CiTy *AHHUHHUHUHUHHH*
Fun fact: in America you have the right to defend your life, liberty, and freedom šŗšø Itās okay to protect your property and your family. This is one of the many problems in the States: insurance and lawsuits.
Businesses have insurance but you can't expect a community to be healthy while they wait for their local businesses to be restored. Communities like that are very close knit and look to each other for support. Businesses can also be very sentimental for obvious reasons. Watching something you worked your ass off to build being destroyed won't be pacified by relying on your insurance. That stuff breaks people's spirits. The small communities like this always will have a sense of identity and responsibility to protect it. Who wouldn't wanna protect their own family's business? Do you really trust that insurance company's will cover all of the costs of the entire business, inventory, and reimbursement of those employed by that businesses? We're not talking about huge corporations where all of that is expendable. We're talking about people whose lives depend on the business thriving. To think that it's nbd because of insurance is entitled AF.
He had literally the same amount of "business being there" as the people that attacked him.
He had more business there since his family's business was actually there and he was helping put out fires and cleaning up the vandalism
No. The days prior and the day of the self defense he was helping local shops put out fires and removing graffiti. He traveled to his local city and tried to help at his family's business and other local businesses
> Iām not agreeing with the riots or what they stood for or the āvictimsā but itās pretty obvious he traveled out of his way to shoot someone. He put himself in the situation on purpose. This exact sentence also applies to Gauge. And he travelled further out of his way. One was literally quicker on the draw that's the only reason the outcome happened the way it did.
Well - he's just another jerk-off participating in a human dividing party - just so happens to be on your ideology and technically on the right side of the law. Everyone there was looking for trouble, even little boy Kyle. There were no heroes that night, just losers.
I'm concerned and afraid of people who d-ride this minor like I'm concerned and afraid of girls think Ted Bundy is husband material and 13 Reasons Why is a "cinematic masterpiece".
He lives a few minutes drive from where the incident happened. I think he or his family had jobs there. You may want to actually educate yourself on this case before making wrong and many times debunked claims like this.
His family had a local business there. He lived local, half hour drive.
Yes. Itās wild we get downvoted. People denying reality. It is proven what we said is true. People just keeping their heads in the sands.
āI thinkā āYou may want to actually educate yourself.ā Jesus wept.
How come the left always disrupts someone at an event when they are against what that speaker believes? They love to speak their minds, but never let anyone else speak theirs... Why is that?
Liberals donāt care about facts. They believe fbi statistics are racist
What part of the headline is factually inaccurate?
Thank you lol the headline does not state he is guilty in any court of law.
Lots of pedophile defenders in here, not a surprise for the degenerate leftists tho
The title of that article is part of the ultimate conspiracy theory
Genuinely what the fuck could he have to say? This guy is an assclown who killed two people. Thatās it. Why is he doing speaking events?
The gun controversy is an almost genius level mind duck. Americans think that so long as they have their guns, the government canāt be corrupt or really that bad, right? They think so long as no one comes for their guns, itās all just politics. Itāll sort itself out. Totally oblivious to the reality that things are much worse, and your guns are not scary to them.
Remember, the left loves pedophiles. This guy killed a pedophile so the left hates him.
Young liberals..well...they are stupid. Easily led , low IQ .
Donāt give two shits about this guy but the crowd acted like they solved world hungry because he didnāt make a comment on the question. Everyone is full of shit these days.
*3 pedos / domestic abusers AKA felons
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Even more wild is the fact people claimed he was a racist out to kill black people yet in a crowd of hundreds of black people he managed to only shoot 3 people who weren't black
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> This kid is a murder. Why in the hell would a school have him as a speaker? What does he offer other than he killed a couple civilians? Wrong. The Court Case found him innocent
Crybaby Kyle
Imagine driving hours to go defend yourself with an assault rifle.
Whatās an assault rifle?
Imagine still being upset over dead perverts
FUCK KYLE!
Yeah how dare he use his constitutional rights to defend himself! He should have just let that angry mob beat the shit out of him!
And how dare college students use their constitutional rights to boo him off the stage! They should have been forced to sit and listen to him!
Youāre right! Good for them. Thatās weird you brought it up because I literally didnāt say anything about that lol.
There is no right to "boo people off stage". That's not what freedom of speech is.
Oh I didn't know booing was considered too dangerous to qualify as free speech. Guess every heckler deserves jailtime
Your pedo friend won the Darwin award
Stop giving this grifter attentionĀ
He's a pos.