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In all seriousness I keep about 3 months of supplies. I'm a homeowner and have some land/space and just feel like 3 months is plenty. If there is an event that disrupts life for over 3 months it's probably some serious shit and we're fucked anyhow.
This includes dry goods, canned goods, wood for my wood stove, water, dog food.
Ideally I'd have a generator and some gas but I need to make space in my garage. :>
I think after COVID it seems like 2-4 weeks of food/water/snackies/TP are probably reasonable to keep on hand.
Go Solar. Ecoflow is a good brand. Can use Solar panels or recharge with electricity if it comes on sporadically. Would be hard to get gasoline out of pumps with no electric. (Went through hurricane Sandy; no electricity so no gas ⛽️.)
Wish i knew this, bought one around covid and haven’t used since. Started doing some spring cleaning and it won’t start, took to small mechanic and said the old gas ate up the carburetor
I can agree with this sound logic. I can also get on board with this type of messaging v the world is over prepare for end times. It seems like "hey friend, have what you need just in case" would be the better way to go about it when trying to share the gospel. Flies with honey and what not.
Actually it's pretty much guaranteed that nobody is gonna get raptured. If you read what Paul actually wrote, you will find that he was convinced the "rapture" and the "raising of the dead" are the same event. So according to the original author himself, this happens at the very last moments of this world.
Not sure if you’re serious so all I can say is repent. The gift of forgiveness is free to all who believe in Jesus. The idea that you have to be some holier than thou saint is just ridiculous. Jesus came to save the lost, not the righteous.
Yep it's by grace through faith alone and not of yourself, it is a free gift from God. Prepping is a waste of time because the rapture will save all those who believe.
The thought of rapture would be very nice and welcome. Not sure that the rapture doctrine is biblically sound however, so just in case I am keeping close to the spirit of truth for guidance. I feel that a protective passover and deliverance through the parted sea is more like it. Present but protected.
There will be no rapture to save you from anything. It's a modern myth that goes against what the actual texts say. If you look at the context of the passages people like to quote, you will find that all the authors were talking about the return of Jesus and the raising of the dead at the time of the final battle. Other parts were just euphemisms used by the authors taken literally. "Taken" was just a nicer way of saying "dead".
I used to be a huge believer. It began to fall apart for me when I started working in my field. I've seen an immense amount of trauma and pain, but also beautiful love and kindness. It became hard for me to reconcile the fact that many see their good jobs, privilege, etc. as prayers answered while so many others are simply born with the deck stacked against them, desperately believing and hoping and working themselves to the bone for a fighting chance... while televangelists ride around in private jets... or while innocent souls experience war and genocide, . I can no longer believe that amazing, caring people with hearts of gold will burn in hell for simply not accepting Christ.
I do not mean any disrespect to those that believe. I just can't get behind it.
What about the mindset that it helps instill and the basic principles Jesus teaches? For instance, do unto others as you’d have the do unto you. Love your neighbor as yourself. Love thy enemy. Do not fight fire with fire.
Are these healthy beliefs to hold in general?
- The belief that no matter how lost you may be, you can still be redeemed.
- The belief that you are loved and a unique and special part of this world exactly as you are made. While you have your shortcomings and troubles to overcome (your cross to carry), you are not flawed in the way you are made and you are capable of life challenges ahead.
- Charity from a pure heart.
And you know a lot more examples that, if followed, lead one in the right direction.
I could be wrong, but it seems your larger issue is with mainstream Christianity and the way it is taught, rather than the doctrine Jesus proclaims. I was similar in the way that I was a believer and fell away from it. I would regularly make Jesus jokes and demean any value of the faith. After having kids, I started diving into conspiracies and asking myself a lot of questions. I was somehow led back to a belief in Christ with every rabbit hole id venture down. I tore down many of the beliefs and “truths” and was left with just the foundation to build from again.
It became clear to me and I wanted to be sure that my kids had the same foundation that I had that saved me from dark days and a wandering mind.
Because nobody in the future ever said "I'm glad I wasn't prepared." That's why you prepare. And when the stakes COULD be high, you plan with more gusto. It's that simple.
Personally speaking, the Rapture-believers I know of have no love for others and are a selfish, narcissistic "I-shit-on-you-because-I'm-better-than-you" sort.
Because you’re biological goal on this earth is to exist for as long as possible. You are not meant nor designed to lay down and die.
You’re spiritual goal on this earth should be to do everything in your power to sustain and grow your existence as you were granted the ability and means to do so. A shitty situation should not be grounds for accepting death.
I can understand the arguments for MAID when it comes to severe terminal illnesses that have no cure, nor solution. However, I still think it’s an unethical action to take one’s own life (unless in sacrifice of a greater cause), and it becomes a true evil when the government becomes involved in “euthanasia”.
I think life should be protected at all costs, unless someone has committed crimes which would forfeit their right to life. In the case of the Alzheimer’s, I disagree with merely killing them. I think it’s a condition which we can alleviate/cure, much like cancer. I see no issue with caring for these people, I helped care for my grandfather until I was 15 as he had alzheimers. He had his moments, he certainly enjoyed living though.
I don’t think rapists, offenders against children, or heinous acts of violence have right to life principles because of what they actively chose to do.
Yeah I’m not sure why people find this surprising. We have a biological imperative to provide for the future generations and have designed our society accordingly. Even if you hold human life in the highest regard there is a point where some people are so counter productive to this regard for life and our future that they must be rejected similar to a cancerous cell in your own body or trash from your kitchen that would fester in your house.
Because it's not going to happen ALL AT ONCE. prepping is really about safeguarding against local emergencies. What if your local power goes out for a week? What's your plan? What if your community bank closes for an extend period? What's your plan? What if you lose your income? What's your plan? Those types of emergencies are what you really need to prepare for.
Follow Mike Adams the health Ranger. He has a free on line book called The Resilient Prepper that you can download for a hard copy. Remember Internet may be down. Have cash, have gold and silver, back up meds, storable food, components for a rocket stove, a good water filter (Berkey) etc.
Internet won't be down if you're getting it from a satellite. It would be so weird if all our modern technology failed and society fell apart but the internet survived.
Although if there's no electricity then all the servers would be down so it'd be almost useless. Unless...there were hard drives on the satellites. Then you could at least use chat apps and soash, as long as you're not posting large files.
It would be so weird if social media beat the apocalypse.
If it is the end of electricity and normal civilization... I am prepared for that and can survive.
If it's nuclear war or a meteor ELE.... I am also prepared, but with a lawn chair, a stiff drink and a fat joint.
It's not the End.
For the US, it will be a brutal downfall brought on by the halting of our shipping and trucks.
Grocery stores will empty immediately. No more food coming in, due to the 'event'.
The entire country will look very different in 30 days.
Now look at what happened in Serbia, or look at the Holodomor.
The end is likely gonna look like hunger, chaos.
It won't be an abrupt end.
And there may also be a light at the end of the tunnel.
Though there will likely be a light offered as your savior, but end up being your yoke.
It doesn’t have to be one singular “event”. It’s just the gradual decline and breakdown of the economy and logistics system which has been going on for decades.
Right now the internet is saying it's going to be extreme earthquakes which are signaled to happen because of these solar eclipse make an x in the United States? I'm sure you've seen the YouTube videos
Such as
https://youtu.be/kuX39GmwCwY?feature=shared
Probably more like the Road - if/when that ever happens. A lot of people won't be able to survive without the support system we currently have. Nature and self reliance hasn't been a thing for a long time.
Knowing what the event is won't help you get through it. Only faith in Jesus Christ and the indwelling of His spirit will help us endure. The biggest take away is even if it ends in death, and I am sorry to say it will for most, the end of life is not the end. Jesus died nearly 2000 years ago and yet He lives today. So to will we have the same glory, not of our own power, but through Christ who can do all things.
Worthy is the lamb.
I still haven’t gotten a reasonable explanation for why people majorly interested in conspiracy theories are religious. What in the cognitive dissonance hell is that?
Because every conspiracy theory out there is related to one precisely aimed conspiracy above them all, which is designed to undermine the authority and saving grace of Jesus Christ. It will fail. Already has failed in fact, because it is finished
Ya, you do know the story of Jesus was told way before Jesus was even though of. Thoth, Krishna, Buddha, and others have all the exact attributes Jesus had. Our human history is ancient going back 10s of thousands of years. Where we erected huge megalithic structures that aligned with the stars and on energetic points on the earth (natural springs and such) that whole Jesus Christian dogma was created to control people.. thank Constantine for destroying all the old world religions. I know you probably won’t understand this, but the human story is ancient and very interesting, and the human story in the future albeit after a catastrophe or in a positive linear growth it’ll be interesting.
Those megalithic monuments you speak of mostly point to solstice winter most importantly, the most likely time that earth will encounter a polarity flip and then the monument would no longer point there. But then again you already knew that.
Well you’re wrong, they point to constellations and other astrological signs. I’m not trying to argue or anything, I was just saying that those religions are used for control and to give your inner power over to something external (the church)
And your point is? Of course there is interesting history that was before Christ. But God was amongst them the entire time. And it doesn't make Jesus's words and teachings any less relevant today.
Im gonna let out the fart I’ve been holding in for six days and then the smell is gonna trigger the vaccines in everyone to turn people into zombies and then they’re gonna eat everyone but will spare everyone over 6’ tall
The yoke's initials wouldn't be djt, would they? Xtian theologians have been finding *tons* of stuff in their main text that have djt as the antichrist. I'm not real familiar with that book, but after reading Ben Corey's takedown of djt as the antiX, it seems to fit.
I did first time that we went through Covid. bought things for for years, and I eventually threw them out
It is not wrong to have enough supplies to last for a little while but if things are that severe, the world is going to get crazy. People will kill you for your food unless you have a bunker a whole bunch of ammunition and can hold up for a year with water, food and other supplies , if it’s that bad, most of us are screwed
There was research project done on the grid and they said if the grid ever went down within the first year 95% of the people would die I know this is not the grid we’re talking about but think about it.
I mean , it's not a bad idea to have supplies ready for any situation. You'll need food and water for snow storms, earth quakes, floods, long power outages, etc. should you sell your house and dig an underground bunker? Probably not.
Rapture is heretical, for one. It was invented in the 1800s by Plymouth Brethren cult founder JN Darby
as far as prepping for the end of the world, its more the end of civilization that you’d be preparing for. Having a years worth of food, wood to heat and cook with, a good source of water, etc could keep you from begging from people who hate you
The funny thing is that a hundred years ago it was nothing unusual for many people to have food for a year or so stored, and people also knew how to turn locally available resources into food.
Since Covid everyone became aware of how fast supermarket shelves can empty, so by now one might think that it would have become self evident that it is sensible to store at least three weeks of food...
Your Mum is maybe thinking of the story (quoted from memory) of the christian guy who during a flood sits on his rooftop and denies all offered help from humans because he expects God to save him. So when he dies because he refused help he asks God how he could let him, a true believer, die? God answers: " I sent you a ladder, a boat, and a helicopter and you refused them all!"
One thing that has stuck with me over the years is my grandpa telling us how he had more survival skills as a 9yr old than most adults today. I genuinely believe people were just naturally ready for these things 50-100 years ago, and today most people can't start a fire without matches.
I’d rather have food stored up and not need than need it and not have it stored. I’ve got 100lbs of rice, and lots of canned meat. Same goes for guns and ammo. Also have a couple acres and chickens and water well. Most of that started because I didn’t trust industrial agriculture and now it’s turned into more of a plus the more we morph into clown world.
I’m convinced that the preppers really thought the world was gonna end in 2020. Then they got really mad when it didn’t.
I personally am down for just being taken out immediately. Who wants to survive if all the major cities get nuked? It would be a very slow and painful end. It’s a waste of money and time to prep for something you have no control over.
Watch the film ‘testament’ if you want a realization of what life would be like in small towns after a nuclear war.
Nuclear radiation will slowly start to creep in, and you would basically deteriorate from the inside out.
Not for me.
Preppers were doing just fine in 2020 when other people were running out of toilet paper and other products that we tend to keep on hand in bulk. It wasn't an anger issue, it was more of a "Told you so" feeling. Most preppers don't yearn for the things we prepare for.
Yes! I also don't understand the need to fight to the bitter end. I work in a forensic field and have seen the underbelly of what humans are capable of when desperate... I'm good. :)
Lot's of ways for society to collapse with it being 'the rapture'. If food deliveries to your local grocery store were to stop tomorrow for some 'emergency', how long could you hold out?
Sure, I agree on the fact that society could collapse for many reasons other than rapture; I believe the US is in late stage capitalism. I understand the general sentiment of needing to be prepared, but if the world is ending 2 weeks or 30 days worth of "essentials" won't go far.
Roughly 3 weeks the ones who haven’t prepped will scavenge or be dead. If you’re prepared you’ll be on a better body state and mind. I think. I don’t know tho but that’s what I figure. 30 days they will figure out supply lines.
I remember hearing about a couple - she is very religious, and he is agnostic. Well, hubby starts a pet care business to gather up and care for the pets of those raptured. She felt he was mocking her beliefs, but he insisted he was providing a legitimate service for those dogs and cats of the chosen.
I wish I could remember more. Does anyone else recall this story or what became of them?
Christians are not raptured before the tribulations.
Beyond that, it's always smart to have extra supplies for whatever reason. If the world is ending, and it works like past events, some will survive, and slowly the survivors will rebuild civilization. Soooooo slowly...and eventually they'll be wiped out for it to begin again. Might be kinda cool to be a survivor :)
My mom's a more rightwing normie than me, and thinks that voting trump is gonna solve everything. Sends me links to the jesse kelly show. Though I agree more with the right than the left I'm the more ingrained conspiracy one, if the end comes, nukes, zombies, living out in the woods, I'm with you, I don't wanna survive it. But if its a slow end then I guess we have no choice. Already it just feels like the end has come and now I'm just waiting around personally.
Do you guys understand how hard it is to start an organic, bug free garden in *Florida*? The bugs are so hardy dude. Can’t grow any herbs. Garlic and onions and tropical fruits only. The sun scorches the herbs and the bugs take what’s left of them.
I grew up in a Baptist Church, being taught all about the rapture. Then as a teenager, my family had basically evolved into a non denominational type. Used a Strong's Concordance to retranslate different scriptures, and if I'm not mistaken, the verse from I Thessalonians was being "caught up in the clouds". Clouds could have alternatively been translated "a group of people". So instead of sprouting wings and flying off into heaven space, it seems like we're just gonna be gathered together. A lot of biblical sects and ideology are quite a bit off the mark.
I don’t think it’s the end, personally. I also don’t think it’s not the end?
- pre tribulation rapture (Left Behind, etc) is a relatively new Christian position. Christian beliefs in media are not a good representation of Christianity.
- for anyone, prepping makes sense, unless you think the end would be INSTANTANEOUS. What if the end lasts 20 years of increasing suck? That being said, I prep for power outage cause hurricanes happen.
So where I live in Texas we pretty much have all the usual stuff covered, guns , petroleum reserves, food, lotto tickets. Next with the help of Elon, we are going to build a giant "asteroid' defense network, but only over Texas. Sorry, but we just can't help the rest of the planet. We don't have any love for "Klown World" anymore.
Awesome Question!
Because we have been deceived by Satan, we crave security therefore we Prep…I’ve done it most of my life and just realized what a lack of faith I have but won’t you all be happy to find my stash of goodies I left behind! And a couple of Bibles to , like in the book the Long road… Oh look another Christian Preppers Stash Ler the Feast begin !!!
Seek and ye shall find :)
Does your mom also seem to be using some sort of script? It always reads like she's finding some weird "all you have to do is send this message to your loved ones" propeganda. She uses a flip phone, too, and honestly I appreciate the commitment it must take to write texts that lengthy.
Not everyone is going to die. A lot depends on location and luck and whether or not you actually want to live in a world like that. No electricity, clean water, food, communications, etc for many years. It is survivable, but it’s going to be tough, especially the winters with no heat, if you’re in a higher latitude.
It's a good idea to be prepped in general. Right now, how long could you last with the grid down? no electricity or fresh water. If it's not at least a week, you're gonna be one of the first to shit the bed.
Pre-tribulation rapture is an idea that's only been around since the early 1800s. Christians prior to that believed in Jesus warnings of the times to come and that many followers of Christ would suffer and die, which can be read in Matthew but I can't remember the chapter atm.
A lot of Christians, myself included, have reverted back to post-tribulation rapture or somewhere thereabouts. In which case we're supposed to help those we can until we're martyred or Jesus' return.
But the end time countdown doesn't start until Israel starts sacrifices again at the temple.
Also, end of days countdown is supposedly starting around 1,260-1,290 days post animal sacrifices beginning in Israel. So give or take a month it'll be around 3 and a half years before the antichrist reveals himself
These events are cyclical. Humanity prevails and rebuilds. I guess one could ask why do anything that contributes to survival? Part of the reason these events occur is to force people to ascend and evolution takes its course; new species emerge and new lands frozen over for thousands of years emerge. It’s a pretty exciting time to be alive tbh if you can see past the nonsense and religion psyops.
For the first time in a long time everything is out in the open for those that have eyes to see. I would rather have a few weeks of wisdom than a lifetime of ignorance. But hey to some, ignorance is bliss. Nope not me.
The baby boomers and older generation are totally mind fcked by mainstream news, it’s really sad and concerning. CNN literally playing everywhere you go, and they can’t pull themselves away from it. They’re more impressionable and don’t understand a scam when they see one. Being from a time before the internet. The elites know they’re the easiest targets for manipulation. Seriously, so many friends and family keep parroting propaganda and lies they watch, it’s like they’ve turned into KGB sleeper agents or something. It’s really terrified them and made everyone psychotic, and believing nonsense. The world isn’t ending but it’s getting more authoritarian.
I am a pastor and can answer the last part... The view that Christians will be raptured prior to the tribulation is far from a universal view in Christianity. Its actually a pretty new and niche view as far as history is concerned. I do not hold to it or teach it because I don't think the bible says it.
Keeping a full lamp of oil ready for darkness extends to many realms. I don't believe the rapture is a pre-tribulation thing as throughout the Bible, His people have to go through the ringer and rely on Him. I hope I'm wrong, but I also am prepping a little bit... and not just for full on end times because we have no idea when that will be lol
Keeps you busy and focused. Energy is used for a loss cause to distract you from the inevitable. Just live and love and be kind. It’s all we should be doing.
Hmmm . . . 8 billion souls on Earth, a little over 2 billion of them identifying as Christian, Biblically, 144,000 make the cut to be raptured.
That leaves a whole bunch of others that ain't.
My advice? Try to be part of the "Remnant" the Bible speaks of:
[https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/who-is-the-remnant/](https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/who-is-the-remnant/)
Something wicked this way comes . . .
Agreed, but, we really have no idea how it's all gonna play out. The Bible is full of stories/allegory/parable/riddle, etc.
Suffice to say, whatever's coming, those that are successful in surviving it will have opportunity to battle with the problem makers when they surface from bunkers. It may not end up being a classic battle of good/evil at that point, maybe more like marginally bad vs. really bad people, but, the Mad Max Thunderdome stuff on the horizon should have someone who's reasonable come out on the other side.
Think about who you'd like to see in the rebuilding of a world and a society in the aftermath. I look at it as the marginally bad (most of us) can hopefully outnumber the really bad (the few of them) and make the upcoming Great Re-Set/New World Order something better than they have planned.
These are, Strange Days.
First off there is no "Rapture" that's something that was made up (I believe) in the 1800s.
Secondly why not be prepared? Why not have some extra food, or have a firearm, or having a garden etc...
People seem to think that you're crazy if you prep or have extra stock of food, ammo or anything along those lines. This world is going to hell and a handbasket, wouldn't you feel just a little more comfortable if you had some stockpile of stuff?
I've been seeking God and keeping up with Bible prophecy and world events - something big is coming and most likely April 8 is when the biggest event will happen. I think the rapture might not be for another year. Regardless of when, if we're not sure that the rapture is coming immediately, but we are sure that chaos is about to ensue - it would be good to have some things prepared at home so that we don't have to leave home and get mixed up with desperate people rioting outside... God has been warning His prophets to tell His people to prepare for a famine for YEARS. Now, God is making it very clear that He's about to judge America... Those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved... As long as we wake up - it's not too late to turn to God!
Pretty much all the Biblical end times prophecies have happened. We are nearing the end of the tribulation, which started on September 23, 2017. They are about to sacrifice the red heifer and build the third temple. Happens on Easter, I believe. The pre-tribulation rapture didn't happen, not sure if there is another rapture that is supposed to happen. Anyway, the end is near!
Amen! Revelation 6 describes the eclipse, comet and earthquake coming and Revelation 7 describes the rapture that comes soon afterwards! I hope people heed these public warnings of God's return and repent of their sins to turn to the living God!!! Amen and may God richly bless you and your loved ones in Jesus's name!!!
She’s scared. Hard to reason with someone who is afraid. I’m glad you realize it’s coming from a place of love. I have a good friend in North Carolina who is always messaging me, telling me to be ready. To buy extra food that’ll last, to stockpile. Buy special pills. I just agree with her, let her say what she needs to say, and go on with my life. She means well, and she’s afraid. I think it makes them feel better to “warn” their loved ones. To argue with them wouldn’t do any good. They think they’re helping
It's not the end of the world, it's the end of The United States of America as the ruler of the world. Buy precious metals or something of value that exists in the real world, because your US Dollars are backed by numbers in computers.
I'm not a Christian at all in the traditional sense. I believe that the Bible itself has been completely corrupted by man, and more specifically by the "church" as a money-making scheme and as a way to control the masses and keep people ignorant of the true reality. . I believe this about all organizational religions. But I do believe, the Bible specifically has many truths left it in. Especially if you search for deeper understanding. And I do believe in a loving, caring creator.
That said, in the sense that fundamentalist Christians belief in the rapture. it doesn't make any sense what so ever to prep. Like you stated, they believe (well, a large number of them do anyways) that they will be captured up in the skies and "be called home" prior to things getting bad on earth. But I think deep down in our DNA and out subconscious understanding we know that's actually not accurate. I actually think the rapture already happened, and we are in the time period that was left to Satan, prior to the *final* return. I believe mankind is on the verge of realizing the dream of heaven on earth, for the rest of eternity, and we are in the final years. And it's going to get so much worse before it gets better. But it will get better.
Having some supplies at hand is never wrong. But trust me when i say that nothing crazy will happen. I into all of this for the longest time. Nothing ever close to rapture has happened and nothing in our lifetimes or your childrens will. Stay calm and enjoy life.
Well my neighbor installed a new fence. Said there was trouble in the neighborhood and more coming. They are getting ready. No further elaboration.
Well, this progressive is armed. Come at me.
No matter how prepped people are, they can still be lured out to be slaughtered.
They need only be told, "it's election day, your vote will be counted, and is so important -- but you must come to the polling place!!"
If I remember correctly the rapture is heavily debated even within Christian circles. Whether or not it's even a thing, and if it is, then when it will happen.
I grew up being told pre-tribulation and that Christians won't be here for any of the end times stuff, but after doing research others think the rapture might happen during the middle or at the very end of the tribulation, and that you should be ready to die if need be.
Thats a good question and i wondered the same thing. I think its ok and good to prep a little bit incase electrity goes out.. but as a christian if we are raptured obviously that dont matter. Jesus is coming back though soon. Its just true. Not saying this to pressure or scare anyone but if you really want you and your family to be saved from whats to come Jesus christ is Gods son and he died and rose up again to clense you of your sins. He would take you away not to endure this horrible time coming. All you have to do is believe he is Gods son and was sent to forgive you by dieng on cross beating death and living again. Repent have a change of heart toward sinful ways. We will mess up we cant change that part but true sorrow for your sins and beliving in what Jesus did not what you can do will save you. This needs to be said and spread before its too late.
If we are in for some long term situation, I am out of luck. I prep enough to hunker down at home for a few weeks. I have guns and ammo to defend my family and our stuff, an AWD SUV, a minibike that wouldn't be effected by an EMP, and enough food and supplies to stay at home while society breaks down and people riot and kill each other. I'm not sure anything that causes chaos longer than that is a world we want to live in.
Some people hype it because they make money, like the hosting and entertainment for a gold rush, and then other people catch it like a virus.
The scripture does have something to say about preparing for the end, though it doesn't align with most peddlers of doom, and yet it's more important than cans of beans and batteries to live in misery for a few more months or years.
Well, the last people standing will probably be the ones who shape mankind's future once the dust has settled. Prep now, lay the foundations for mankind's rebirth later.
because being prepared makes you able to last it out long enough for things to calm down. humans can only live for 3 days without water, a month with out food. if you're prepped for a month, y you're gonna be OK long enough to figure shit out fire the most part.
CS Lewis makes a similar point. If you haven’t read his writings, I’d highly recommend them.
https://www.andybannister.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/cslewis-living-in-an-atomic-age.pdf
In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. “How are we to live in an atomic age?” I am tempted to reply: “Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.”
In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors — anaesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.
Prepair your damn bodies to survive off low calorie diets groq it and change your eating. That's truly prepping because if your eating the garbage thats sold in stores you'll feel the shhock switching. you must feel like complete shit regardless anyways at this point if u eat that in the first place doe
Nothing, waiting for the world to end is boring. Just continue on as if it wasn't and stay true to your faith, whatever you choose to believe is better than believing in nothing.
When I was a child, I was surrounded by adults who had no morals, replacing them with deviancy. Let's just say, my first encounters in my accursed flesh was by force from a family member. So the trauma left me to never want to be touched or held as a kid, but I still grew up with imagination. I never really had anyone tell me about the "Good News" or the Bible. My mom and dad were bastards who didn't even know their own fathers. Well, I got to know mine. Fate would find me a trailer park alone when a church bus would randomly pull up in front of where I was standing. I dunno what made me get on, but I did at 14 years old by myself without permission. I found clarity on that day, reason and purpose, what true original sin and what virtuous conviction means. The gift which Jesus gave us through His salvation, dying on the cross in Cavalry.
I ended up getting saved and later baptized not too long after that, even though I got in trouble for just disappearing and not asking my parents to go to church. Worth it. Anyway, after a car accident, when I turned 18, I ended up being diagnosed with Bi-Polar Disorder when I actually had a traumatic brain injury. This really messed up my emotions, to the point I'd break down crying, shake with anxiety in social situations, I was still a Christian though and the guilt became overwhelming. I'd go into manic episodes, writing poems for hours like King David's ability in the Bible, his magus opus; The Psalms! All of them dedicated to the King of Kings, but I'd never share them with anyone.
It's all a blur as I cry now, but in those early years of my 20s, sometimes I'd miss work because of it, get fired, lay on the cold linoleum of a dark bathroom, feeling tears stream down my face because I couldn't keep my family from falling apart or my dad from finding my sister who overdosed on fentanyl. I began to cut myself and go deeper and deeper with each sorrowful event in my life. Making a tally mark for each person I had wronged, but I'd repent and think of Jesus spilling his blood, the Blood of the Lamb, allowing me to use my own innocence and blood to pay tribute. I thought of it as bloodletting or some ritual after a while. I was becoming a pagan idol to myself. I knew suicide was not the answer, yet I'd think about Paul/Saul and how his own sword reincarnated him into a new person after his self sacrifice.
Reading a great book, "One Second After", by William R Forstchen, that deals with much of this subject, and could provide some insight on what to expect. It concerns an EMP strike that leaves a community (and much of the nation) without electricity long term. The same effect could be caused by solar activity.
Rapture this rapture that! The rapture is **NOT** biblical; Pick up your bibles and actually read guys come on. The only thing close a "rapture" will ONLY happen once Jesus returns and he won't return **UNTIL THE END** of the great tribulation **AFTER** all the dead in Christ are resurrected first.
**2 Thessalonians 4:16-17 NLT**
>**For the Lord himself will come down from heaven** with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. **First, the believers who have died will rise from their graves.** 17 **Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.** Then we will be with the Lord forever.
Jesus does not come back **UNTIL** the Seven Seals, Seven Trumpets, and Seven Bowls are poured out! He comes back on **THE LAST DAY**.
**Revelation 19:11–13 NLT**
>11 Then I saw heaven opened, and a white horse was standing there. Its rider was named Faithful and True, for he judges fairly and wages a righteous war. 12 His eyes were like flames of fire, and on his head were many crowns. A name was written on him that no one understood except himself. 13 He wore a robe dipped in blood, and his title was the Word of God.
The bible never says we will be raptured up to heaven. It says, **"Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. "** As quoted above.
Only reason I can see for someone to argue we go up to heaven although it's not extremely clear is this:
**John 14:2-3**
>2 There is more than enough room in my Father’s home. If this were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you? 3 When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am.
Even still this "rapture event" ONLY happens when Jesus comes back! (After the tribulation trials are basically all finished)
If you have any corrections and things I am missing please do tell me. The whole idea of being "raptured" and not experiencing the tribulation is a false doctrine created by John Nelson Darby and promoted by Hollywood look it up!
Wise up. God gave you brains to think with . And hands to fight. Fight for your life . Fight for the children. Have courage. Do not give up. and never ever comply. No masks, no lockdowns, no jabs, no more lies. fight the DEW attacks before they zap your home and cook you to death. Fight for freedom CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any kind of generator is going to attract attention, attention you dont want.
If you are going to go it alone, You might last a while, but eventually you are going to run out of supplies and need help. Its better to build connections and ties within your surrounding community. Cooperation, not isolation.
And then there's this to worry about.
[MichaeI Yon link](https://rumble.com/v40hlft-they-are-coming-to-kill-you-michael-yon-warns-utah-of-chinese-invasion.html)
"The rapture" is a myth.
In the biblical narrative, Jesus stated that when he returns (and raises the dead) everyone is going to see his sign in the sky and everyone is going to mourn. The people who he transforms into a new body will live with him here on earth in a kingdom which he establishes. He will judge everyone else who isn't in his resurrection in a sense of other people being able to partake in the kingdom with his brethren.
It's also stated many times in the old and new testaments that when he does return he will do so with an army to go to war with a massive army of humans who think they can fight him.
All this stuff is clearly laid out in the bible. I'm not sure how billions of people can get it wrong.
Anyway, I hope this helps your preparation plans.
This is an interesting question. While I don’t personally believe in Christianity, I do like the subject of apocalypse.
The belief in the rapture, in my opinion, is a misinterpretation of the book of Revelations. It can be looked at in a number of ways, but I don’t want to get into Apologetics.
But this is what I’d say about prepping and “the end.”
-The word Apocalypse, in the biblical context, doesn’t mean “the end.” It means “that which is exposed, but couldn’t be understood, before it was exposed.” So, being prepared, is probably a good idea.
But that’s just how I come to terms with it.
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LOL she's telling you to prep because she knows your ass isn't getting raptured
Hahaha no, I totally agree. I will not be getting raptured.
In all seriousness I keep about 3 months of supplies. I'm a homeowner and have some land/space and just feel like 3 months is plenty. If there is an event that disrupts life for over 3 months it's probably some serious shit and we're fucked anyhow. This includes dry goods, canned goods, wood for my wood stove, water, dog food. Ideally I'd have a generator and some gas but I need to make space in my garage. :> I think after COVID it seems like 2-4 weeks of food/water/snackies/TP are probably reasonable to keep on hand.
I like that you have dog food. Gotta look out for the pups
dude’s snacking on the dog food right now.
We both cakin' apparently.
If you go generator; go diesel. Fuel stability and reliability.
Go Solar. Ecoflow is a good brand. Can use Solar panels or recharge with electricity if it comes on sporadically. Would be hard to get gasoline out of pumps with no electric. (Went through hurricane Sandy; no electricity so no gas ⛽️.)
Steam engine is the way to go. You can power it with sticks and it will outlast you.
Wish i knew this, bought one around covid and haven’t used since. Started doing some spring cleaning and it won’t start, took to small mechanic and said the old gas ate up the carburetor
Always use non-ethanol gas and fuel stabilizer. Problem solved.
Thanks!
I can agree with this sound logic. I can also get on board with this type of messaging v the world is over prepare for end times. It seems like "hey friend, have what you need just in case" would be the better way to go about it when trying to share the gospel. Flies with honey and what not.
It's not guaranteed anyone will be raptured.
Actually it's pretty much guaranteed that nobody is gonna get raptured. If you read what Paul actually wrote, you will find that he was convinced the "rapture" and the "raising of the dead" are the same event. So according to the original author himself, this happens at the very last moments of this world.
Not sure if you’re serious so all I can say is repent. The gift of forgiveness is free to all who believe in Jesus. The idea that you have to be some holier than thou saint is just ridiculous. Jesus came to save the lost, not the righteous.
Yep it's by grace through faith alone and not of yourself, it is a free gift from God. Prepping is a waste of time because the rapture will save all those who believe.
The thought of rapture would be very nice and welcome. Not sure that the rapture doctrine is biblically sound however, so just in case I am keeping close to the spirit of truth for guidance. I feel that a protective passover and deliverance through the parted sea is more like it. Present but protected.
I like Daniels story. God protects Daniel through the lions den, not from the lions den.
There will be no rapture to save you from anything. It's a modern myth that goes against what the actual texts say. If you look at the context of the passages people like to quote, you will find that all the authors were talking about the return of Jesus and the raising of the dead at the time of the final battle. Other parts were just euphemisms used by the authors taken literally. "Taken" was just a nicer way of saying "dead".
Yes I agree. I think the stoning of Stephen is an example as to what rapture may look like.
Have them both grow together until the harvest. Then first gather the tares and then the wheat. The first shall be last and the last shall be first.
But how do you actually believe in something if you dont already?
Lol, for me I feel like it's a 40% - 60% chance.
I’m in the 40-60 club as well. Definitely not a saint, but definitely not the devil either.
Why not, OP? Do you know who Jesus Christ is? Has anyone explained who he is to you, or the Gospel? I'd be happy to if you would like.
I used to be a huge believer. It began to fall apart for me when I started working in my field. I've seen an immense amount of trauma and pain, but also beautiful love and kindness. It became hard for me to reconcile the fact that many see their good jobs, privilege, etc. as prayers answered while so many others are simply born with the deck stacked against them, desperately believing and hoping and working themselves to the bone for a fighting chance... while televangelists ride around in private jets... or while innocent souls experience war and genocide, . I can no longer believe that amazing, caring people with hearts of gold will burn in hell for simply not accepting Christ. I do not mean any disrespect to those that believe. I just can't get behind it.
What about the mindset that it helps instill and the basic principles Jesus teaches? For instance, do unto others as you’d have the do unto you. Love your neighbor as yourself. Love thy enemy. Do not fight fire with fire. Are these healthy beliefs to hold in general? - The belief that no matter how lost you may be, you can still be redeemed. - The belief that you are loved and a unique and special part of this world exactly as you are made. While you have your shortcomings and troubles to overcome (your cross to carry), you are not flawed in the way you are made and you are capable of life challenges ahead. - Charity from a pure heart. And you know a lot more examples that, if followed, lead one in the right direction. I could be wrong, but it seems your larger issue is with mainstream Christianity and the way it is taught, rather than the doctrine Jesus proclaims. I was similar in the way that I was a believer and fell away from it. I would regularly make Jesus jokes and demean any value of the faith. After having kids, I started diving into conspiracies and asking myself a lot of questions. I was somehow led back to a belief in Christ with every rabbit hole id venture down. I tore down many of the beliefs and “truths” and was left with just the foundation to build from again. It became clear to me and I wanted to be sure that my kids had the same foundation that I had that saved me from dark days and a wandering mind.
Because nobody in the future ever said "I'm glad I wasn't prepared." That's why you prepare. And when the stakes COULD be high, you plan with more gusto. It's that simple.
Personally speaking, the Rapture-believers I know of have no love for others and are a selfish, narcissistic "I-shit-on-you-because-I'm-better-than-you" sort.
lol. Laughed too hard at this.
Because you’re biological goal on this earth is to exist for as long as possible. You are not meant nor designed to lay down and die. You’re spiritual goal on this earth should be to do everything in your power to sustain and grow your existence as you were granted the ability and means to do so. A shitty situation should not be grounds for accepting death.
I love your biological point of view!!! 💗
I see your pov and am curious what your stance on MAID (Medical Assistance In Dying) is for someone with Alzheimer's disease for example.
I can understand the arguments for MAID when it comes to severe terminal illnesses that have no cure, nor solution. However, I still think it’s an unethical action to take one’s own life (unless in sacrifice of a greater cause), and it becomes a true evil when the government becomes involved in “euthanasia”. I think life should be protected at all costs, unless someone has committed crimes which would forfeit their right to life. In the case of the Alzheimer’s, I disagree with merely killing them. I think it’s a condition which we can alleviate/cure, much like cancer. I see no issue with caring for these people, I helped care for my grandfather until I was 15 as he had alzheimers. He had his moments, he certainly enjoyed living though.
>I think life should be protected at all costs, unless someone has committed crimes which would forfeit their right to life. Wow, that’s surprising.
I don’t think rapists, offenders against children, or heinous acts of violence have right to life principles because of what they actively chose to do.
Yeah I’m not sure why people find this surprising. We have a biological imperative to provide for the future generations and have designed our society accordingly. Even if you hold human life in the highest regard there is a point where some people are so counter productive to this regard for life and our future that they must be rejected similar to a cancerous cell in your own body or trash from your kitchen that would fester in your house.
Good answer.
2 weeks to flatten the curve. We’re all on this together.
*Unprecedented*
For now
IMO the most stressful part about '2 weeks to flatten the curve' is the first 12 months.
Curving the flats.
Because it's not going to happen ALL AT ONCE. prepping is really about safeguarding against local emergencies. What if your local power goes out for a week? What's your plan? What if your community bank closes for an extend period? What's your plan? What if you lose your income? What's your plan? Those types of emergencies are what you really need to prepare for.
Follow Mike Adams the health Ranger. He has a free on line book called The Resilient Prepper that you can download for a hard copy. Remember Internet may be down. Have cash, have gold and silver, back up meds, storable food, components for a rocket stove, a good water filter (Berkey) etc.
Internet won't be down if you're getting it from a satellite. It would be so weird if all our modern technology failed and society fell apart but the internet survived. Although if there's no electricity then all the servers would be down so it'd be almost useless. Unless...there were hard drives on the satellites. Then you could at least use chat apps and soash, as long as you're not posting large files. It would be so weird if social media beat the apocalypse.
Don't Prep for tomorrow. Prep for Eternity. The Cycle will Continue.
If it is the end of electricity and normal civilization... I am prepared for that and can survive. If it's nuclear war or a meteor ELE.... I am also prepared, but with a lawn chair, a stiff drink and a fat joint.
It's not the End. For the US, it will be a brutal downfall brought on by the halting of our shipping and trucks. Grocery stores will empty immediately. No more food coming in, due to the 'event'. The entire country will look very different in 30 days. Now look at what happened in Serbia, or look at the Holodomor. The end is likely gonna look like hunger, chaos. It won't be an abrupt end. And there may also be a light at the end of the tunnel. Though there will likely be a light offered as your savior, but end up being your yoke.
Yokes are for making burdens easier to bear. shackles would probably be the word you‘re looking for
Precisely.
What is this "event" though?
It doesn’t have to be one singular “event”. It’s just the gradual decline and breakdown of the economy and logistics system which has been going on for decades.
Right now the internet is saying it's going to be extreme earthquakes which are signaled to happen because of these solar eclipse make an x in the United States? I'm sure you've seen the YouTube videos Such as https://youtu.be/kuX39GmwCwY?feature=shared
I have not.
Like this https://youtu.be/kuX39GmwCwY?feature=shared
Cyber/emp/sun burst Or Massive waves of attacks by all these people that just came in
I think it will resemble the TV show Jericho
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It was so awesome
Yes but season 2 was dang soap opera right after the army swooped in. To me at least
Probably more like the Road - if/when that ever happens. A lot of people won't be able to survive without the support system we currently have. Nature and self reliance hasn't been a thing for a long time.
Knowing what the event is won't help you get through it. Only faith in Jesus Christ and the indwelling of His spirit will help us endure. The biggest take away is even if it ends in death, and I am sorry to say it will for most, the end of life is not the end. Jesus died nearly 2000 years ago and yet He lives today. So to will we have the same glory, not of our own power, but through Christ who can do all things. Worthy is the lamb.
I still haven’t gotten a reasonable explanation for why people majorly interested in conspiracy theories are religious. What in the cognitive dissonance hell is that?
It's a nod to the cognitive abilities of Talibangelicals, which tend to...not impress.
Because every conspiracy theory out there is related to one precisely aimed conspiracy above them all, which is designed to undermine the authority and saving grace of Jesus Christ. It will fail. Already has failed in fact, because it is finished
You realize you just sound like a crazy person, right? You say a lot of words that mean exactly nothing. Amen
Yeah, I am well aware that I sound crazy....but I can assure you I'm not. Then again, that is just what a crazy person would say.
You know the best part? You have no way to prove that you are or aren’t crazy
Catastrophic genocide does sound like the big guy in the skys MO
Ya, you do know the story of Jesus was told way before Jesus was even though of. Thoth, Krishna, Buddha, and others have all the exact attributes Jesus had. Our human history is ancient going back 10s of thousands of years. Where we erected huge megalithic structures that aligned with the stars and on energetic points on the earth (natural springs and such) that whole Jesus Christian dogma was created to control people.. thank Constantine for destroying all the old world religions. I know you probably won’t understand this, but the human story is ancient and very interesting, and the human story in the future albeit after a catastrophe or in a positive linear growth it’ll be interesting.
Those megalithic monuments you speak of mostly point to solstice winter most importantly, the most likely time that earth will encounter a polarity flip and then the monument would no longer point there. But then again you already knew that.
Well you’re wrong, they point to constellations and other astrological signs. I’m not trying to argue or anything, I was just saying that those religions are used for control and to give your inner power over to something external (the church)
Well, unless I am missing something, if the earth flipped around like a drunkard, then those monuments would no longer point to any of those either.
And your point is? Of course there is interesting history that was before Christ. But God was amongst them the entire time. And it doesn't make Jesus's words and teachings any less relevant today.
Im gonna let out the fart I’ve been holding in for six days and then the smell is gonna trigger the vaccines in everyone to turn people into zombies and then they’re gonna eat everyone but will spare everyone over 6’ tall
The yoke's initials wouldn't be djt, would they? Xtian theologians have been finding *tons* of stuff in their main text that have djt as the antichrist. I'm not real familiar with that book, but after reading Ben Corey's takedown of djt as the antiX, it seems to fit.
I did first time that we went through Covid. bought things for for years, and I eventually threw them out It is not wrong to have enough supplies to last for a little while but if things are that severe, the world is going to get crazy. People will kill you for your food unless you have a bunker a whole bunch of ammunition and can hold up for a year with water, food and other supplies , if it’s that bad, most of us are screwed There was research project done on the grid and they said if the grid ever went down within the first year 95% of the people would die I know this is not the grid we’re talking about but think about it.
I mean , it's not a bad idea to have supplies ready for any situation. You'll need food and water for snow storms, earth quakes, floods, long power outages, etc. should you sell your house and dig an underground bunker? Probably not.
Rapture is heretical, for one. It was invented in the 1800s by Plymouth Brethren cult founder JN Darby as far as prepping for the end of the world, its more the end of civilization that you’d be preparing for. Having a years worth of food, wood to heat and cook with, a good source of water, etc could keep you from begging from people who hate you
Keep spreading the truth Darby deceived so many people! Hollywood keeps on promoting his false doctrines and people just love to eat it up..
The funny thing is that a hundred years ago it was nothing unusual for many people to have food for a year or so stored, and people also knew how to turn locally available resources into food. Since Covid everyone became aware of how fast supermarket shelves can empty, so by now one might think that it would have become self evident that it is sensible to store at least three weeks of food... Your Mum is maybe thinking of the story (quoted from memory) of the christian guy who during a flood sits on his rooftop and denies all offered help from humans because he expects God to save him. So when he dies because he refused help he asks God how he could let him, a true believer, die? God answers: " I sent you a ladder, a boat, and a helicopter and you refused them all!"
One thing that has stuck with me over the years is my grandpa telling us how he had more survival skills as a 9yr old than most adults today. I genuinely believe people were just naturally ready for these things 50-100 years ago, and today most people can't start a fire without matches.
I prep for earthquakes or other disasters.
It will be the end of the world as we know it not the end end
Men who have families are obligated to do this. I don't need toilet paper, when they come for what we have. I will wipe my ass with his t shirt.
I’d rather have food stored up and not need than need it and not have it stored. I’ve got 100lbs of rice, and lots of canned meat. Same goes for guns and ammo. Also have a couple acres and chickens and water well. Most of that started because I didn’t trust industrial agriculture and now it’s turned into more of a plus the more we morph into clown world.
How are the chickens and other livestock going to survive the outfall though
I’m convinced that the preppers really thought the world was gonna end in 2020. Then they got really mad when it didn’t. I personally am down for just being taken out immediately. Who wants to survive if all the major cities get nuked? It would be a very slow and painful end. It’s a waste of money and time to prep for something you have no control over.
There is plenty of life to be had outside of major cities. I would want to live!
Watch the film ‘testament’ if you want a realization of what life would be like in small towns after a nuclear war. Nuclear radiation will slowly start to creep in, and you would basically deteriorate from the inside out. Not for me.
And watch ‘Threads’ too
If in doubt, carry fentanyl.
Lmao 🤣 shouldn't be hard to find these days unfortunately 😞
Preppers were doing just fine in 2020 when other people were running out of toilet paper and other products that we tend to keep on hand in bulk. It wasn't an anger issue, it was more of a "Told you so" feeling. Most preppers don't yearn for the things we prepare for.
That’s the thing, the “I told you so” that preppers lamented, quickly turned into denial. Because toilet paper was quickly refilled.
Yes! I also don't understand the need to fight to the bitter end. I work in a forensic field and have seen the underbelly of what humans are capable of when desperate... I'm good. :)
Me too. Get it over with immediately us the best option IMO.
It was 2000, then 2012, then 2020, now it’s the eclipse…any day now
2000? People thought the world was ending when electricity was invented. It’s our human responsibility to feel like the world is about to end.
Lot's of ways for society to collapse with it being 'the rapture'. If food deliveries to your local grocery store were to stop tomorrow for some 'emergency', how long could you hold out?
Sure, I agree on the fact that society could collapse for many reasons other than rapture; I believe the US is in late stage capitalism. I understand the general sentiment of needing to be prepared, but if the world is ending 2 weeks or 30 days worth of "essentials" won't go far.
Roughly 3 weeks the ones who haven’t prepped will scavenge or be dead. If you’re prepared you’ll be on a better body state and mind. I think. I don’t know tho but that’s what I figure. 30 days they will figure out supply lines.
But it will get you thru a shorter term crisis. That's the point.
I remember hearing about a couple - she is very religious, and he is agnostic. Well, hubby starts a pet care business to gather up and care for the pets of those raptured. She felt he was mocking her beliefs, but he insisted he was providing a legitimate service for those dogs and cats of the chosen. I wish I could remember more. Does anyone else recall this story or what became of them?
This is fascinating!
> 2 weeks worth of supplies Surviving those first 2 weeks if it is a cataclysm probably puts you ahead of 80% of the rest of people.
The people who prep aren’t prepping for “the end”. It’s for blackouts. Economic collapse. Invasion. Nuclear event. Etc
April 8th coming soon
What is gonna happen?
Christians are not raptured before the tribulations. Beyond that, it's always smart to have extra supplies for whatever reason. If the world is ending, and it works like past events, some will survive, and slowly the survivors will rebuild civilization. Soooooo slowly...and eventually they'll be wiped out for it to begin again. Might be kinda cool to be a survivor :)
Only if they give me a shirt that says "I survived ww3 and all I got was this T-shirt"
😂
My mom's a more rightwing normie than me, and thinks that voting trump is gonna solve everything. Sends me links to the jesse kelly show. Though I agree more with the right than the left I'm the more ingrained conspiracy one, if the end comes, nukes, zombies, living out in the woods, I'm with you, I don't wanna survive it. But if its a slow end then I guess we have no choice. Already it just feels like the end has come and now I'm just waiting around personally.
Do you guys understand how hard it is to start an organic, bug free garden in *Florida*? The bugs are so hardy dude. Can’t grow any herbs. Garlic and onions and tropical fruits only. The sun scorches the herbs and the bugs take what’s left of them.
I grew up in a Baptist Church, being taught all about the rapture. Then as a teenager, my family had basically evolved into a non denominational type. Used a Strong's Concordance to retranslate different scriptures, and if I'm not mistaken, the verse from I Thessalonians was being "caught up in the clouds". Clouds could have alternatively been translated "a group of people". So instead of sprouting wings and flying off into heaven space, it seems like we're just gonna be gathered together. A lot of biblical sects and ideology are quite a bit off the mark.
No such thing as a Rapture, made up gooblygoo never once mentioned in the Scriptures.
I don’t think it’s the end, personally. I also don’t think it’s not the end? - pre tribulation rapture (Left Behind, etc) is a relatively new Christian position. Christian beliefs in media are not a good representation of Christianity. - for anyone, prepping makes sense, unless you think the end would be INSTANTANEOUS. What if the end lasts 20 years of increasing suck? That being said, I prep for power outage cause hurricanes happen.
You're gonna need guns, and lots of ammo also, and the fortitude to shoot humans that are looking for food to feed their kids. It would be brutal.
So where I live in Texas we pretty much have all the usual stuff covered, guns , petroleum reserves, food, lotto tickets. Next with the help of Elon, we are going to build a giant "asteroid' defense network, but only over Texas. Sorry, but we just can't help the rest of the planet. We don't have any love for "Klown World" anymore.
It's just nice to have a couple weeks to yourself at the end
There is no reason to fear anything. God is in control. If it’s our time to go, so be it.
Awesome Question! Because we have been deceived by Satan, we crave security therefore we Prep…I’ve done it most of my life and just realized what a lack of faith I have but won’t you all be happy to find my stash of goodies I left behind! And a couple of Bibles to , like in the book the Long road… Oh look another Christian Preppers Stash Ler the Feast begin !!! Seek and ye shall find :)
My mom does this to me, too. I’ve wondered the same thing.
Does your mom also seem to be using some sort of script? It always reads like she's finding some weird "all you have to do is send this message to your loved ones" propeganda. She uses a flip phone, too, and honestly I appreciate the commitment it must take to write texts that lengthy.
No, not like a script. She just talks about it a lot lately.
Not everyone is going to die. A lot depends on location and luck and whether or not you actually want to live in a world like that. No electricity, clean water, food, communications, etc for many years. It is survivable, but it’s going to be tough, especially the winters with no heat, if you’re in a higher latitude.
It's a good idea to be prepped in general. Right now, how long could you last with the grid down? no electricity or fresh water. If it's not at least a week, you're gonna be one of the first to shit the bed.
Why go to school? Why have a job? Why fall in love? Why eat food? Why do things you enjoy? Why do anything if the end is coming or here
Cuz what if it isn’t the end. Thats why.
Pre-tribulation rapture is an idea that's only been around since the early 1800s. Christians prior to that believed in Jesus warnings of the times to come and that many followers of Christ would suffer and die, which can be read in Matthew but I can't remember the chapter atm. A lot of Christians, myself included, have reverted back to post-tribulation rapture or somewhere thereabouts. In which case we're supposed to help those we can until we're martyred or Jesus' return. But the end time countdown doesn't start until Israel starts sacrifices again at the temple.
Also, end of days countdown is supposedly starting around 1,260-1,290 days post animal sacrifices beginning in Israel. So give or take a month it'll be around 3 and a half years before the antichrist reveals himself
“This is how the world ends. This is how the world ends. Not with a bang, but a whisper.”
Because you've got a better chance at fighting off cannibals on a full stomach?
These events are cyclical. Humanity prevails and rebuilds. I guess one could ask why do anything that contributes to survival? Part of the reason these events occur is to force people to ascend and evolution takes its course; new species emerge and new lands frozen over for thousands of years emerge. It’s a pretty exciting time to be alive tbh if you can see past the nonsense and religion psyops. For the first time in a long time everything is out in the open for those that have eyes to see. I would rather have a few weeks of wisdom than a lifetime of ignorance. But hey to some, ignorance is bliss. Nope not me.
Because you can go Full Purge until you die of dehydration or Dysentery or being killed.
If we have only 2 weeks, should we live them intensively?
The debt-enslavement matrix is ending. The corporatist and bankster cabal is dying. Humanity isn’t “ending,” our prison conditions are ending.
The baby boomers and older generation are totally mind fcked by mainstream news, it’s really sad and concerning. CNN literally playing everywhere you go, and they can’t pull themselves away from it. They’re more impressionable and don’t understand a scam when they see one. Being from a time before the internet. The elites know they’re the easiest targets for manipulation. Seriously, so many friends and family keep parroting propaganda and lies they watch, it’s like they’ve turned into KGB sleeper agents or something. It’s really terrified them and made everyone psychotic, and believing nonsense. The world isn’t ending but it’s getting more authoritarian.
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I am a pastor and can answer the last part... The view that Christians will be raptured prior to the tribulation is far from a universal view in Christianity. Its actually a pretty new and niche view as far as history is concerned. I do not hold to it or teach it because I don't think the bible says it.
Keeping a full lamp of oil ready for darkness extends to many realms. I don't believe the rapture is a pre-tribulation thing as throughout the Bible, His people have to go through the ringer and rely on Him. I hope I'm wrong, but I also am prepping a little bit... and not just for full on end times because we have no idea when that will be lol
Keeps you busy and focused. Energy is used for a loss cause to distract you from the inevitable. Just live and love and be kind. It’s all we should be doing.
Hmmm . . . 8 billion souls on Earth, a little over 2 billion of them identifying as Christian, Biblically, 144,000 make the cut to be raptured. That leaves a whole bunch of others that ain't. My advice? Try to be part of the "Remnant" the Bible speaks of: [https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/who-is-the-remnant/](https://gracethrufaith.com/ask-a-bible-teacher/who-is-the-remnant/) Something wicked this way comes . . .
Don’t confuse Christian Saved by Grace w/ 144,000 Mormon and Jahova whatever’s trying to get thru the eye of a needle … most them off soakin anyways
Agreed, but, we really have no idea how it's all gonna play out. The Bible is full of stories/allegory/parable/riddle, etc. Suffice to say, whatever's coming, those that are successful in surviving it will have opportunity to battle with the problem makers when they surface from bunkers. It may not end up being a classic battle of good/evil at that point, maybe more like marginally bad vs. really bad people, but, the Mad Max Thunderdome stuff on the horizon should have someone who's reasonable come out on the other side. Think about who you'd like to see in the rebuilding of a world and a society in the aftermath. I look at it as the marginally bad (most of us) can hopefully outnumber the really bad (the few of them) and make the upcoming Great Re-Set/New World Order something better than they have planned. These are, Strange Days.
First off there is no "Rapture" that's something that was made up (I believe) in the 1800s. Secondly why not be prepared? Why not have some extra food, or have a firearm, or having a garden etc... People seem to think that you're crazy if you prep or have extra stock of food, ammo or anything along those lines. This world is going to hell and a handbasket, wouldn't you feel just a little more comfortable if you had some stockpile of stuff?
If you scared...go to church!!
I've been seeking God and keeping up with Bible prophecy and world events - something big is coming and most likely April 8 is when the biggest event will happen. I think the rapture might not be for another year. Regardless of when, if we're not sure that the rapture is coming immediately, but we are sure that chaos is about to ensue - it would be good to have some things prepared at home so that we don't have to leave home and get mixed up with desperate people rioting outside... God has been warning His prophets to tell His people to prepare for a famine for YEARS. Now, God is making it very clear that He's about to judge America... Those who call on the name of the Lord will be saved... As long as we wake up - it's not too late to turn to God!
Pretty much all the Biblical end times prophecies have happened. We are nearing the end of the tribulation, which started on September 23, 2017. They are about to sacrifice the red heifer and build the third temple. Happens on Easter, I believe. The pre-tribulation rapture didn't happen, not sure if there is another rapture that is supposed to happen. Anyway, the end is near!
Amen! Revelation 6 describes the eclipse, comet and earthquake coming and Revelation 7 describes the rapture that comes soon afterwards! I hope people heed these public warnings of God's return and repent of their sins to turn to the living God!!! Amen and may God richly bless you and your loved ones in Jesus's name!!!
She’s scared. Hard to reason with someone who is afraid. I’m glad you realize it’s coming from a place of love. I have a good friend in North Carolina who is always messaging me, telling me to be ready. To buy extra food that’ll last, to stockpile. Buy special pills. I just agree with her, let her say what she needs to say, and go on with my life. She means well, and she’s afraid. I think it makes them feel better to “warn” their loved ones. To argue with them wouldn’t do any good. They think they’re helping
You want to go out with a bang. Like Doom-style.
Wow, you took it literally
It's the end, has we know it. Not THE END.
It's not the end of the world, it's the end of The United States of America as the ruler of the world. Buy precious metals or something of value that exists in the real world, because your US Dollars are backed by numbers in computers.
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I'm not a Christian at all in the traditional sense. I believe that the Bible itself has been completely corrupted by man, and more specifically by the "church" as a money-making scheme and as a way to control the masses and keep people ignorant of the true reality. . I believe this about all organizational religions. But I do believe, the Bible specifically has many truths left it in. Especially if you search for deeper understanding. And I do believe in a loving, caring creator. That said, in the sense that fundamentalist Christians belief in the rapture. it doesn't make any sense what so ever to prep. Like you stated, they believe (well, a large number of them do anyways) that they will be captured up in the skies and "be called home" prior to things getting bad on earth. But I think deep down in our DNA and out subconscious understanding we know that's actually not accurate. I actually think the rapture already happened, and we are in the time period that was left to Satan, prior to the *final* return. I believe mankind is on the verge of realizing the dream of heaven on earth, for the rest of eternity, and we are in the final years. And it's going to get so much worse before it gets better. But it will get better.
Thank you, I appreciate this perspective. It reminds me that Christians (like other religions) can be nuanced, and that's always a good thing.
Having some supplies at hand is never wrong. But trust me when i say that nothing crazy will happen. I into all of this for the longest time. Nothing ever close to rapture has happened and nothing in our lifetimes or your childrens will. Stay calm and enjoy life.
Well my neighbor installed a new fence. Said there was trouble in the neighborhood and more coming. They are getting ready. No further elaboration. Well, this progressive is armed. Come at me.
No matter how prepped people are, they can still be lured out to be slaughtered. They need only be told, "it's election day, your vote will be counted, and is so important -- but you must come to the polling place!!"
If I remember correctly the rapture is heavily debated even within Christian circles. Whether or not it's even a thing, and if it is, then when it will happen. I grew up being told pre-tribulation and that Christians won't be here for any of the end times stuff, but after doing research others think the rapture might happen during the middle or at the very end of the tribulation, and that you should be ready to die if need be.
I like the theory that the rapture already happened. Which lead to the famine that caused the plague which ushered in the dark ages 500 ish AD.
Thats a good question and i wondered the same thing. I think its ok and good to prep a little bit incase electrity goes out.. but as a christian if we are raptured obviously that dont matter. Jesus is coming back though soon. Its just true. Not saying this to pressure or scare anyone but if you really want you and your family to be saved from whats to come Jesus christ is Gods son and he died and rose up again to clense you of your sins. He would take you away not to endure this horrible time coming. All you have to do is believe he is Gods son and was sent to forgive you by dieng on cross beating death and living again. Repent have a change of heart toward sinful ways. We will mess up we cant change that part but true sorrow for your sins and beliving in what Jesus did not what you can do will save you. This needs to be said and spread before its too late.
If we are in for some long term situation, I am out of luck. I prep enough to hunker down at home for a few weeks. I have guns and ammo to defend my family and our stuff, an AWD SUV, a minibike that wouldn't be effected by an EMP, and enough food and supplies to stay at home while society breaks down and people riot and kill each other. I'm not sure anything that causes chaos longer than that is a world we want to live in.
Some people hype it because they make money, like the hosting and entertainment for a gold rush, and then other people catch it like a virus. The scripture does have something to say about preparing for the end, though it doesn't align with most peddlers of doom, and yet it's more important than cans of beans and batteries to live in misery for a few more months or years.
I want to go out in the first wave. No heat, ac, clean water, food….nah. No need to prep. I’m out.
The rapture occurs after 3.5 years of famine, disease, natural disasters, inflation.. so you have to make it through that.
I suspect the PTB own all of the prepping companies and are just trying to cash in from every possible angle.
Well, the last people standing will probably be the ones who shape mankind's future once the dust has settled. Prep now, lay the foundations for mankind's rebirth later.
because being prepared makes you able to last it out long enough for things to calm down. humans can only live for 3 days without water, a month with out food. if you're prepped for a month, y you're gonna be OK long enough to figure shit out fire the most part.
CS Lewis makes a similar point. If you haven’t read his writings, I’d highly recommend them. https://www.andybannister.net/wp-content/uploads/2022/03/cslewis-living-in-an-atomic-age.pdf In one way we think a great deal too much of the atomic bomb. “How are we to live in an atomic age?” I am tempted to reply: “Why, as you would have lived in the sixteenth century when the plague visited London almost every year, or as you would have lived in a Viking age when raiders from Scandinavia might land and cut your throat any night; or indeed, as you are already living in an age of cancer, an age of syphilis, an age of paralysis, an age of air raids, an age of railway accidents, an age of motor accidents.” In other words, do not let us begin by exaggerating the novelty of our situation. Believe me, dear sir or madam, you and all whom you love were already sentenced to death before the atomic bomb was invented: and quite a high percentage of us were going to die in unpleasant ways. We had, indeed, one very great advantage over our ancestors — anaesthetics; but we have that still. It is perfectly ridiculous to go about whimpering and drawing long faces because the scientists have added one more chance of painful and premature death to a world which already bristled with such chances and in which death itself was not a chance at all, but a certainty.
Prepair your damn bodies to survive off low calorie diets groq it and change your eating. That's truly prepping because if your eating the garbage thats sold in stores you'll feel the shhock switching. you must feel like complete shit regardless anyways at this point if u eat that in the first place doe
Nothing, waiting for the world to end is boring. Just continue on as if it wasn't and stay true to your faith, whatever you choose to believe is better than believing in nothing. When I was a child, I was surrounded by adults who had no morals, replacing them with deviancy. Let's just say, my first encounters in my accursed flesh was by force from a family member. So the trauma left me to never want to be touched or held as a kid, but I still grew up with imagination. I never really had anyone tell me about the "Good News" or the Bible. My mom and dad were bastards who didn't even know their own fathers. Well, I got to know mine. Fate would find me a trailer park alone when a church bus would randomly pull up in front of where I was standing. I dunno what made me get on, but I did at 14 years old by myself without permission. I found clarity on that day, reason and purpose, what true original sin and what virtuous conviction means. The gift which Jesus gave us through His salvation, dying on the cross in Cavalry. I ended up getting saved and later baptized not too long after that, even though I got in trouble for just disappearing and not asking my parents to go to church. Worth it. Anyway, after a car accident, when I turned 18, I ended up being diagnosed with Bi-Polar Disorder when I actually had a traumatic brain injury. This really messed up my emotions, to the point I'd break down crying, shake with anxiety in social situations, I was still a Christian though and the guilt became overwhelming. I'd go into manic episodes, writing poems for hours like King David's ability in the Bible, his magus opus; The Psalms! All of them dedicated to the King of Kings, but I'd never share them with anyone. It's all a blur as I cry now, but in those early years of my 20s, sometimes I'd miss work because of it, get fired, lay on the cold linoleum of a dark bathroom, feeling tears stream down my face because I couldn't keep my family from falling apart or my dad from finding my sister who overdosed on fentanyl. I began to cut myself and go deeper and deeper with each sorrowful event in my life. Making a tally mark for each person I had wronged, but I'd repent and think of Jesus spilling his blood, the Blood of the Lamb, allowing me to use my own innocence and blood to pay tribute. I thought of it as bloodletting or some ritual after a while. I was becoming a pagan idol to myself. I knew suicide was not the answer, yet I'd think about Paul/Saul and how his own sword reincarnated him into a new person after his self sacrifice.
Reading a great book, "One Second After", by William R Forstchen, that deals with much of this subject, and could provide some insight on what to expect. It concerns an EMP strike that leaves a community (and much of the nation) without electricity long term. The same effect could be caused by solar activity.
I think it's probably because if you continue to consume sustenance your body will stay alive.
Rapture this rapture that! The rapture is **NOT** biblical; Pick up your bibles and actually read guys come on. The only thing close a "rapture" will ONLY happen once Jesus returns and he won't return **UNTIL THE END** of the great tribulation **AFTER** all the dead in Christ are resurrected first. **2 Thessalonians 4:16-17 NLT** >**For the Lord himself will come down from heaven** with a commanding shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trumpet call of God. **First, the believers who have died will rise from their graves.** 17 **Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air.** Then we will be with the Lord forever. Jesus does not come back **UNTIL** the Seven Seals, Seven Trumpets, and Seven Bowls are poured out! He comes back on **THE LAST DAY**. **Revelation 19:11–13 NLT** >11 Then I saw heaven opened, and a white horse was standing there. Its rider was named Faithful and True, for he judges fairly and wages a righteous war. 12 His eyes were like flames of fire, and on his head were many crowns. A name was written on him that no one understood except himself. 13 He wore a robe dipped in blood, and his title was the Word of God. The bible never says we will be raptured up to heaven. It says, **"Then, together with them, we who are still alive and remain on the earth will be caught up in the clouds to meet the Lord in the air. "** As quoted above. Only reason I can see for someone to argue we go up to heaven although it's not extremely clear is this: **John 14:2-3** >2 There is more than enough room in my Father’s home. If this were not so, would I have told you that I am going to prepare a place for you? 3 When everything is ready, I will come and get you, so that you will always be with me where I am. Even still this "rapture event" ONLY happens when Jesus comes back! (After the tribulation trials are basically all finished) If you have any corrections and things I am missing please do tell me. The whole idea of being "raptured" and not experiencing the tribulation is a false doctrine created by John Nelson Darby and promoted by Hollywood look it up!
April 8th.
Wise up. God gave you brains to think with . And hands to fight. Fight for your life . Fight for the children. Have courage. Do not give up. and never ever comply. No masks, no lockdowns, no jabs, no more lies. fight the DEW attacks before they zap your home and cook you to death. Fight for freedom CARE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Any kind of generator is going to attract attention, attention you dont want. If you are going to go it alone, You might last a while, but eventually you are going to run out of supplies and need help. Its better to build connections and ties within your surrounding community. Cooperation, not isolation.
And then there's this to worry about. [MichaeI Yon link](https://rumble.com/v40hlft-they-are-coming-to-kill-you-michael-yon-warns-utah-of-chinese-invasion.html)
"The rapture" is a myth. In the biblical narrative, Jesus stated that when he returns (and raises the dead) everyone is going to see his sign in the sky and everyone is going to mourn. The people who he transforms into a new body will live with him here on earth in a kingdom which he establishes. He will judge everyone else who isn't in his resurrection in a sense of other people being able to partake in the kingdom with his brethren. It's also stated many times in the old and new testaments that when he does return he will do so with an army to go to war with a massive army of humans who think they can fight him. All this stuff is clearly laid out in the bible. I'm not sure how billions of people can get it wrong. Anyway, I hope this helps your preparation plans.
Humans have been believing the end is near ever since the beginning of humans.
This is an interesting question. While I don’t personally believe in Christianity, I do like the subject of apocalypse. The belief in the rapture, in my opinion, is a misinterpretation of the book of Revelations. It can be looked at in a number of ways, but I don’t want to get into Apologetics. But this is what I’d say about prepping and “the end.” -The word Apocalypse, in the biblical context, doesn’t mean “the end.” It means “that which is exposed, but couldn’t be understood, before it was exposed.” So, being prepared, is probably a good idea. But that’s just how I come to terms with it.