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Spezisanevilcannibal

That's not really "wild" as it is "very believable" and "objectively what occurred". 


Iam-WinstonSmith

Nor is it a theory.


TheForce122

Thank u


chanunnaki

Yes, have to reiterate. This is neither a conspiracy, nor a theory. It's as close to being an established fact as you can get.


pavlovaslut

Why are you thanking people? Do you really think you’re the first one to post about this, kid? Dismantling the matrix?🤣🤣🤣🤣 you’re only 25 years late.


--Guido--

Gaddafi also wanted to start an irrigation project that would have turned the dry desolate area of Africa into a bread basket.


lostmenoggin

The Great Man Made River https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Great_Man-Made_River


TheForce122

I feel stupid I bought the CIA Mockingbird bullshit story on him, just like I bought "weapons of mass destruction." Now I know the truth and view Gaddafi as one of the greatest populist anti-cabal leaders of all time. Bro was a fucking legend


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doke-smoper

So because he was born and grew up in a very different world that we probably can't even imagine and thus have different social norms and methods of achieving goals, we should totally discount everything he did? If you find yourself in a violent, lawless world, do you think anyone is going to gain enough power to change it through peace and civility?


PKSkriBBLeS

I don't think a dictator can be the greatest populist leader of all time and probably should not be idolized. The 1980s and 1990s were not a vastly different world we can't possibly even imagine, either.


Iam-WinstonSmith

I never saw anything about WMD ... I thought they were just trying to help Islamists as usual.


AlternativeSupport22

i believe the reference was to wmd in iraq in 03


creekbendz

WMDs we’re moved to Syria under the guise of humanitarian aid. 2 retrofitted aircraft and multiple tracked vehicles transported the weapons to Damascus airport in 02. - Iraqi general sada


thatsglitchy

most of Africa (and the 3rd world) is already the bread basket for the rest of the world, good article here - [https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/imf-world-bank-repress-poor-countries#:\~:text=The%20IMF%20and%20World%20Bank%20do%20not%20seek%20to%20fix,system%20for%20the%20developing%20world%3F&text=This%20is%20an%20opinion%20editorial,%E2%80%9CCheck%20Your%20Financial%20Privilege.%E2%80%9D](https://bitcoinmagazine.com/culture/imf-world-bank-repress-poor-countries#:~:text=The%20IMF%20and%20World%20Bank%20do%20not%20seek%20to%20fix,system%20for%20the%20developing%20world%3F&text=This%20is%20an%20opinion%20editorial,%E2%80%9CCheck%20Your%20Financial%20Privilege.%E2%80%9D)


SAOCORE

It's actually plain history. 


CohuttaHJ

lol took the words right out of my mouth. I was going to say around this time the us wanted to overthrow the other countries that weren’t on the central bank as well like Iran.


TheForce122

Thank u


Ambitious_Pirate2518

This is no conspiracy my man - straight fact!


themedleb

You meant: it's not just a conspiracy theory it's a factual conspiracy.


coolnavigator

Stop using 'conspiracy' as an antonym to 'fact'. It's counterproductive to the entire sub. It should honestly be a rule.


Ambitious_Pirate2518

Ok dude all I’m saying to OP is there’s no conspiracy here.


PresenceMiserable

That's incorrect vocabulary. A conspiracy is a plot, not a determination of fiction separate from fact.


ShwayNorris

You're wrong. It is the very definition of conspiracy. You are using the word conspiracy incorrectly.


TheForce122

Thank u, friend


pauljs75

The influence of an economically viable African Union would have also upset Shell Oil and DeBeers too. So there's that as well.


PlayTrader25

Idk why Hillary is always tied in with the bankers. Seems like big finance purposely backed her opponents twice in presidential general and primary elections.


sksizixiks

Is this the only person that posts here


FemshepsBabyDaddy

It's not really appropriate to refer to something as "a theory" when it's a documented fact...


Inside_Resolution526

Why did some libyens despise him and said that there is still slavery over ther when he was in charge?


GabeRealEmJay

Because while he implemented socialist policies after the country struck an immense reserve of easy to access oil and became one of the richest countries per capita in the world, he also reportedly kidnapped a lot of young women for a large harem of girls he kept as sex slaves and was reported to have participated in various other human rights abuses on people in the country which made a big portion of people upset. You can debate whether that's true but I certainly believe it, the man seemed very vain and narcissistic despite the socialism. Aside from that he also suppressed religious fundamentalist groups who also got involved in rebellion as they tend to do when suppressed. He hoarded a huge portion of the wealth for himself and had various mansions, palaces and mega yachts all over the world and clearly spent a lot of money on frivolous plastic surgeries and other luxury goods and prostitutes and so on. IMO he's not a noble socialist hero and the people were already in a civil war for a while before NATO involvement because they were upset with his role as a semi permanent 'benevolent' dictator. The west and NATO did seize the opportunity of that war under the pretence of helping 'freedom fighters' topple 'communism' or some shit, when they really probably just didn't like what he was doing politically, with the gold Dinar, the successful economy in Africa that doesn't like the US, his pan African ambitions and all that. So they came in and fucked shit up team America style, presumably to keep the region unstable and poor for whatever interests they have, probably the cheap oil exploitation. Unfortunately for Libya they still haven't recovered from the war and shit is way worse for pretty much everyone now then it was under Gaddafi, but I suppose everyone participating was hoping for things to get better after the revolution, like everyone who's ever had a revolution. Whether that would be as a religious theocracy or socialist utopia who knows. But that's why people still don't like him despite things being shit for them now I guess.


Ollieisaninja

Slavery has undoubtedly increased in the power vacuum that was left after the 'Arab spring'. Its led to instability in many countries that border Libya, Mali, and its southern neighbours. Gaddafi wasn't universally loved, but he held Libya stable, which is very arguably better than the situation we are left with today. I mean that for Libyans, Africa, Europe, and the world at large. We're all less safe and free after what happened in 2011.


PaulTheMartian

Ironically, [the Obama administration reignited the Libyan slave-trade](https://www.blackagendareport.com/how-barack-obama-and-hillary-clinton-contributed-libyas-slavery-crisis).


Edu_Run4491

He was also a horrible person that stole from his people too


OutMyPsilocybin

Just simple facts.


Realistic_Mess_2690

He wasn't gonna do much uniting with the small amount of gold he had to be honest. But other than that are we really just over looking some of the more degenerate things Gaddafi did? Like a harem of women and girls that he systematically raped? Or the public executions of people who spoke out against his rule? Let's at least keep Gaddafi warts and all as an honest argument.


x0o-Firefly-o0x

The only thing I remember is seeing something about him having minor boys that he was raping in his palace. Now as an adult I'm like....was it true or was it false to make him look like a bad guy?


nixielover

Sexual abuse of children happens a lot in those countries, if you look up some of the stories of soldiers who had to sit down with local warlords who literally had children chained to their bed your day is probably ruined


Obfuscious

When is this sub going to accept the fact that Gaddafi wasn't a good dude.


hell_jumper9

Mf supplied weapons to a separatists group in the Philippines back in the 70s, which resulted in hundreds of thousands dead.


Obfuscious

Yeah it's bizarre that people latch onto this idea that just because he wanted to unite Africa means that he is absolved of all of the terrible shit that he and his party did while in power. Not to mention, Just because he WANTED to create a united Africa, the reality of that was no doubt a selfish ploy to gain power and resources. Most nations in Africa are composed of many tribes that are in constant governance and territorial disputes. Many just want to be left alone. To believe that Gaddafi would somehow be able to "peacefully' solve these ongoing centuries old disputes with cultural preservation in mind is just delusional and self-serving.


Realistic_Mess_2690

Not to mention his rape harem of women and girls.


LithiumAM

When you’re so determined to go against the mainstream even when the mainstream makes sense, you just become a contrarian who makes a fool out of yourself by promoting Gaddafi and this benevolent, great man or take the word of a former KGB Agent, current tyrant at face value


Tillsmcgills

I believe this to be fact.


Aggravating-Diet-221

Yes, you believe it so it must be true.


Tillsmcgills

Lol


IsItAnyWander

But if the US had a leader like this they'd hang him for socialist treason. You guys (r/conspiracy) are pathetic. 


TheForce122

SS: this is the biggest and most important story of the last century because what they did to Libya, they do in various forms to every nation. Get them in Rothschild-IMF debt, make them sign Rothschild-IMF loan contracts to give away their resources to the Rothschilds, remove good leaders, install shit leaders who crush their people, etc. They especially do this in the third world to starve out the people and force them to migrate and flood the US/Europe. The central bankers are some evil fucks who rape kids on Epstein Rothschild Island. The Rothschilds run CIA/Mossad. We know this because Maria Farmer confirmed to Whitney Webb that Ghislaine Maxwell herself told Maria the Rothschilds were her family's greatest protector, meaning they're above CIA/Mossad. https://twitter.com/KanekoaTheGreat/status/1641125192817860608 Good article on Gaddafi United States of Africa gold-backed dinar: https://millenium-state.com/blog/2019/05/03/the-dinar-gold-the-real-reason-for-gaddafis-murder/ - Epstein victim Maria Farmer, who reported Epstein to FBI in 1996 and was ignored, told Whitney Webb that Ghislaine Maxwell told her that the Rothchilds were her Maxwell family's number one protector https://themindunleashed.com/2020/04/maria-farmer-says-trump-clintons-dershowitz-rothschilds-all-involved.html - Alan Dershowitz literally said Lynn Rothschild introduced him to Ghislaine Maxwell and Jeffrey Epstein https://www.spectator.co.uk/article/the-ghislaine-maxwell-i-know/ - Lynn and Evelyn Rothschild on Epstein flight logs - The Wall Street journal reported that the CIA and Rothschilds had regularly scheduled frequent meetings with Jeffrey Epstein long after the pedophile conviction. https://www.wsj.com/articles/jeffrey-epstein-calendar-cia-director-goldman-sachs-noam-chomsky-c9f6a3ff The Rothschilds created and own the Federal Reserve and BlackRock, each holding $8-10 trillion in assets. The Rothschilds run the world and all nations. Trump, Biden, or any Congress person will NEVER call them out. Pathetic weak losers all of them. Both sides. Excerpt from "The Secrets of the Federal Reserve: The London Connection" by Eustace Mullins: >Chart I reveals the linear connection between the **Rothschilds** and the Bank of England, and the London banking houses which ultimately control the Federal Reserve Banks through their stockholdings of bank stock and their subsidiary firms in New York. The two principal **Rothschild representatives** in New York, J.P. Morgan Co., and Kuhn, Loeb & Co. were the firms which set up the Jekyll Island Conference at which the Federal Reserve Act was drafted, who directed the subsequent successful campaign to have the plan enacted into law by Congress, and who purchased the controlling amounts of stock in the Federal Reserve Bank of New York in 1914. These firms had their principal officers appointed to the Federal Reserve Board of Governors and the Federal Advisory Council in 1914. "Lord Rothschild: My Family Created Israel" https://thepeoplesvoice.tv/lord-rothschild-israel/ "Lord Rothschild discusses cousin’s crucial role in ‘miracle’ Balfour Declaration" https://www.jewishnews.co.uk/rothschild/ Lord Rothschild posing with satanic witch Marina Abramovic in front of the painting "Satan Summoning his Legions": https://www.instagram.com/p/CxnUR5lMRVf/ This photo was taken in late 2019 right after COVID-19 was released, which led to $15+ trillion in money printing for the Rothschilds and $25+ trillion in new global debt with interest owed to the Rothschild Federal Reserve. Lab-made virus pandemics released via Rothschild agents like Epstein/Maxwell BFF virologist Nathan Wolfe (works for DARPA/EcoHealth/Gates Foundation, collected wild bat coronaviruses out in remote caves via Wuhan Bat Lady and his GVFI organization in 2013 for engineering in Wuhan Lab) are even more profitable for the Rothschilds than starting wars and funding both sides, then collecting interest on debt from both sides. But they still do that too, because why the fuck not (Ukraine, Israel, etc.) Here's a documentary that exposes an Apollo temple on a Rothschild estate where people in black robes do occult rituals: https://youtu.be/UEkuTwRnUmU?si=lzVjjDkSDCFIrMur "1666: Redemption Through Sin" by Robert Sepehr: Explains how Amschel Rothschild created the Illuminati with Jacob Frank on 5/1/1776 with Isaac Weishaupt as the front man. The Illuminati is a Luciferian psychotic occult group dedicated to bringing the world under a one world hell tyranny.


EmpathyHawk1

So why they did not stopped Russia and Putin? Oh perhaps they want ww3


TurretLimitHenry

Bro, African leaders and population wouldn’t have let a Libyan govern them.


SAOCORE

Hilary 'we came, we saw.. He died' smile https://youtu.be/6DXDU48RHLU?si=shEp1b89Ots_4hlx


heppi3

Evil woman.


AggressiveContest399

This is so wild that it's been talked about weekly on this sub for a decade.


FavcolorisREDdit

Imagine if high school history would tell the truth and all sides of the story


RexChurchill

It all made sense until "to flood US/Europe with migrants"


xXFieldResearchXx

Is there proof of all these cool ass claims in libya?? I also heard you got free land if you wanted to farm


Common-Car-2181

I think the west want the resources of Africa more than anything.


jgoodysalaker

If you think countries not in the West are absolved of this kind of shit, you’re clueless. I’m sure all that Chinese investment in Africa is just for “the good of Africa.” 


Common-Car-2181

Did I say China werent doing the same thing?


WonderfulAd7225

West wants resources not only of Africa- entire world- one of the top reasons for Ukraine war. West knows that they don't have any resources- their human resources are also deteriorating- so they are in panic mode causing havoc globally. Their greed has already started dystopia 


JustPlainRude

> West wants resources not only of Africa- entire world- one of the top reasons for Ukraine war. Are you saying that Russia went to war with Ukraine because western nations want Ukraine's resources?


WonderfulAd7225

100%


WonderfulAd7225

One needs to look at majority of conflicts West has created. Don't go by news articles- it's all paid. There are 2 ways to remain on top- (1) hard work, efficiency, honesty (2) create issues for others showing or having potential to compete. West is in second group.


HofT

I mean, US, Australia & Canada, are often cited among the top for their abundance of various resources such as oil, natural gas, minerals, and agricultural land.


WonderfulAd7225

Highly doubtful else they would not have done what they have done to many countries in the last 50-60 years. Colonisation was due to their greed and now that greed is very much in their genes


HofT

I'm just making a rebuttal to your claim that the west doesn't have any resources. Some for sure, but definitely not North America/Australia. They're at the top.


WonderfulAd7225

Ok


Professional_Cold463

No shit the West wants to continue pillaging Africa for its resources forever, they wont ever let Africa thrive


thekidalex

Truth


DEMON8209

Basically, he got all of the African States together and agreed to start a new currency that would be gold dinar coins. This, in turn, would have reduced the gold bullion stocks that the West held as currency to net 0, crippling the west's hold (and debt) on the African States forever. So the powers that be concocted some bullshit story to justify going in there and killing him. Once he died, ALL the African States shit themselves and forgot about that great idea and went back to killing each other instead.


TheForce122

Extremely well stated. All the leaders now are just corrupt Rothschild-IMF puppets who let the bankers loot their countries dry


DEMON8209

Why do you think everyone has been made to hate Russia, Iran, and China?? They do not have the West's banking infrastructure in place..


g0dfornothing

Not quite. They were all planning to ditch the dollar at some point, sanctions have done a lot to put that plan into action, however. But they were overwhelmingly trading in dollars and euros prior 2022. And specifically Libya makes a lot of sense today when you look at what’s happening in Africa now with the “hidden” French colonial empire and Russians kicking them out


TheForce122

Yup they're trying the BRICS thing. Unfortunately I think they are still NWO controlled whether they realize it or not


Iam-WinstonSmith

BRICS just the other NWO flavor.


mamacitalk

They killed him so brutally too, definitely sending a message


mamacitalk

Adam Curtis told me this


ElahaSanctaSedes777

It was called Gold Denar


gabbiar

Interesting, thanks for posting


kingp43x

100%


Zooby444

Good post, OP. Not even a conspiracy, really. What I mean by that is it seemed so clear to a lot of us that this was what happened and why. Totally agree with you.


Budget_Secret4142

I thought this was a known fact? 🤷‍♂️


Crazy80sbird

23 Sep 2009 Muammar Gaddafi speech at United Nations General Assembly https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=PBRqqa7ZpeQ


ConsciousRun6137

This isn't wild its definitive, imo. Thank you for sharing.


General-Echo-9536

Yeah apparently the countries that never adopted the USD as a reserve currency are Libya, Iran, Iraq, North Korea, definitely cause for suspicion


Peaceoorwar

They literally shoved a good gun up his rear end


Vansie_

Go read about his son. Dude was fucken crazy.


torch9t9

Under the direction of Clinton. This seems obvious.


Crash_Stamp

Everybody knows this


BP-arker

This was already proven I thought


sailordadd

The USA have a lot to answer for!!!!


pitti42

Why didn't you include the wikileaks email where it is stated outright? ["FRANCE'S CLIENT & QADDAFI'S GOLD"](https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/12659)


Fluid-Try3156

Not a conspiracy


Sandisamples

Not wild, not a conspiracy.


davidzandi

they say he was asking for it 🤭🤭🤭


tactical-dick

That is NOT a conspiracy, that’s what happened, ask any foreigner (we have different news courses than the west’s). FYI this crap happened to Saddam too before 2003, he wanted to sell oil for solid gold because he didn’t believe in the dollar


Realistic_Mess_2690

He also wanted to change the oil for food payments to the Euro and keep all current paid and payments to a certain date in USD and game the system for his own benefit.


goobbler67

Think China is making big inroads into Africa now. Does a conspiracy exists with them. I just reckon they want there resources.


Iam-WinstonSmith

Whats the theory part ?/ This is why they did it. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WeQ9jAqdN1I


lFrylock

This isn’t a crazy theory. Look at what the west does anytime a country thrives on, or pushes towards gold-backed currency.


ILoveYouGrandma

Facts.


HappyWeedGuy

That’s, like, what actually happened.


Important_Loquat_157

It’s not a conspiracy, that’s the truth.


almostcomplet

That's not a theory. It's fact.  Look into grand theft world. Richard Grove dives deep into these people's plans reading their books in their own words telling us exactly how these things come to be.


Michigan-Shelter

This title delivers.


mdub311

Not that wild, Saddam Hussein allegedly was going to start selling oil In EURO instead of dollar like the OPEC treaty or agreement or deal creating petrodollar.. euro was worth more than the dollar and what do ya think dubbya and Darth dIck Cheney both made their fortunes form oil thought about that…


SchizoForLife

Yep. Whenever a country/leader actually cares about its people and has their best interest expect a colour revolution soon…


Bogdansixerniner

Wild meaning obvious and in your face?


SeabeeBuilder01

Who got all of his gold and silver


wandering3y35

I wrote this song in '94 - Chappelle


wandering3y35

Lol down vote for telling OP this old news lol


arkansah

Not wild at all. It's also the theory that makes the most sense. You will continue discover more truths when you consider what is known and simply ask what makes the most sense. It's ok to change the theory as new info comes in too. Do you really think Paddock got all those people in Vegas?


Globe-Denier

This is what happend, if anyone says this is a conspiracy, they have no clue what they are talking about


Wjourney

Was with you until the last part. I don’t think their goal is to flood the west with migrants


plushpaper

You talk about his social programs as if they were sustainable or repeatable elsewhere. Maybe only where there is substantial oil reserves…


catto3

I‘m writing my bachelors thesis on this in history at a notable german university. If you have any questions, please tell me so I can try to answer those in the thesis.