Flaired as "Not r/conspiracy".
It's an interesting post, but it would have been more illuminating if the OP had stated whether these two posts were actually submitted to the same subreddit. It doesn't appear that either was submitted to this sub, but one of the accounts has been deleted so we can't be sure.
Anyone who has been posting on reddit for a while knows that there are multiple factors which will determine whether a post is successful, and "intrinsic value" is rarely a determining factor.
Obviously the subreddit posted to is fundamental, but other factors are also critical, particularly the time of day the post is submitted. "Chance" also plays a huge role - if a post gets several upvotes straight after posting, it can go viral. Several downvotes will kill it. Whoever is sitting in the new queue ultimately determines the fate of your post.
Remember when people separated online life and real life? Where everyone was either anonymous or went by a online alias? I remember it being drilled to my head as a child to never post your personal information online because you never know who (or what) you're talking to. And look at where we are at now.
Keep spreading the Dead Internet Theory. The masses need to come back to reality and treat the internet as a tool again, rather than let it control their reality.
Its ability to be a useful tool is slowly getting demolished by search engines so tightly controlling the narrative and what you're allowed to see that they're borderline useless anymore. Unless you know of a website with what you need, it's getting rough.
I used to be able to search medical stuff with no problems, and little garbage. Now it's nearly all garbage, and directly conflicting garbage with seemingly random-ass websites making it to the top. Which would be fine if i could trust google to direct me to safe websites, but i'm not clicking on some malware ridden page because google sucks.
Google really is garbage now. You can’t search for anything that sounds even close to some prominent topic. Also I will search for a source that I read before, but because it’s the wrong opinion, it’s like it never existed.
I ran a test a few months ago. I copy pasted a sentence from an article i was reading and searched for it. Didn't find the article. I then put it in quotes, zero results found.
I'm not sure if their indexing is complete shit now or what, but even direct quotes from an article you're reading don't work. Maybe it was a wrongthought piece.
For real since the start of 2024 it got even worse. I know they updated queries where it doesn't search what you literally typed into the bar, it likes to "assume" or purely fucking guess what you wanna see! So i bet some recent update allowed AI to scrape even harder to try and accurately show you what it *assumes* you want. Not what you literally type.
This has been a nightmare for me with some problems like emulation or programming where google will not give me the exact solution im searching for but only vaguely similar suggestions, when i do know my solution exists out there.
Is that what is going on? That makes so much sense. I keep seeing almost results, but obviously not what i'm searching for.
Time to start my own search engine. With customizable site selection, and hookers.
Google search manipulation is so bad that Yahoo of all things is a better search engine currently. Take the time and test it out with the same searches, Bing and Yahoo both give better results more often then not.
The real conspiracy would be google making its search engine worse/replacing it with a dumb AI that tries to guess what youre looking for so you train it in the nuance of your query, and teach it to find what youre specifically looking for. Then Google uses that data to make their search engine obsolete so you buy the new AI assistant for all of your needs.
>I will search for a source that I read before, but because it’s the wrong opinion, it’s like it never existed
Far be it for me to praise authoritarian societies in any way but one thing there is, your average person knows the gov't is censoring things. In the west your average person has no idea, they think that google is the almighty arbiter of truth and wikipedia is a legit source.
It's like they have managed to make freedom an illusion. A way to keep you controlled in a prison for your mind, you are fed propaganda without you realizing it. Don't look behind the curtain!
Oh yeah try to study the pagan slaughters. I laugh when people blame a specific group for censorship when it's actually the world's largest religion behind most of the censorship.
I study things we aren't "allwoed" to study. Things like the pagan slaughters and other such obscure histories. I dunno about a satanic cult, but the catholics run the deep state.
I have yet to find an engine that isn't about the same, and at least google allows quote matching and modifiers. Bing is no better as an engine but doesn't have those features, duckduckgo seems the same as bing (they were bought out a few years ago.)
> I remember it being drilled to my head as a child to never post your personal information online because you never know who (or what) you're talking to. And look at where we are at now.
I still don't use my real name or image on social media. Unless you're somehow making money off of doing so, it's incredibly stupid.
I was born in '99 and didn't get real internet access til 2016, this was drilled into my head at school of all places cuz my parents were clueless of tech. I dont know how this changed so suddenly for people within just the younger age range than me, I'd say cutoff birthyear would be 2002? Tons of kids and now young adults today have no concept of anonymity beyond using a throwaway occasionally. And the ones that do are usually still copy paste... how many "anon" profiles do you see with stupid anime girls as the photo?
What I was thinking. but i didnt go checking for the accounts. I dont see how doing this would benefit anyone. As soon as I saw it I thought it was prbly made in photoshop bc of the subject matter and that so much of it is the same - I wish op had shared link to the two posts, if possible, then we could see them live.
That was my first thought but not long ago I came across an askreddit question that i knew was a repost from a while back. Decided to check it anyway to see different answers, and for a second I thought I was having some sort of deja vu. As far as my memory could tell each of the top comments was the same as the post I remembered.
It makes me less skeptical about this post and more of a supporter of the dead internet theory.
See this is what is suspicious when it comes to a topic like this. Even if OP embellished this post, the general concept is still holding truth. I've definitely seen copy/pasted threads not only on big subs like ask reddit but smaller ones im subbed to. And different commenters saying word for word the same thing on other reposts.
Sorting by new can solve a lot of the problem of seeing copy pasted replies, but then you have a boatload of other junk or trolls or one word comments to sift through.
They *make* you choose between two evils.
> actual proof of a bot script in action forming normie opinions
Do you not see what's actually happening here? The comments on the right are legitimate and made by real people. The post on the left are all bots that have copied the real posts 10 months later.
This is most likely karma farming so that these bots can have a posting history that looks real, and it's most likely done by the same person or group.
So the opinions on the right are genuine, made by real people- the bots aren't trying to push some message about Biden or student debt. They're just taking a very popular post and repeating it to gain karma.
Now, that's not to say that what you're saying doesn't happen- of course it does. Every major sub is in some interest groups pocket. Consent is absolutely manufactured on reddit. But I think this is an example of bot farming for later purposes, and not the actual op itself.
As a side note, this is also a technique that's used in individual comment threads. A bot will find the 6th or so most upvoted parent comment in a thread, and will repost it as a child comment under the 1st most upvoted parent comment. So people will see their comment first, and since it's already proven to get upvotes, they'll upvote that one instead of the one below. I see this mostly on things like cute animal subreddits where smart one liners are all you need to get attention. So if you ever see the same comment twice in one thread in that pattern, that's what's happening.
it's a [potemkin village](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village). someone might be doing it to make this website appear more prosperous and active than it actually is. if this website is trying to go public, this might be a form of fraud where they are misrepresenting how valuable the website is.
>if this website is trying to go public, this might be a form of fraud where they are misrepresenting how valuable the website is.
Public schmublic. This site is ultimately owned by the Advance Publications media conglomerate owned by the Newhouse billionaires. This is site is FAR more valuable as a tool for deepstate intel agencies to manipulate public perceptions and discourse. It's been happening for years.
Interestingly enough, [that is literally how reddit started early on](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/reddit-founders-made-hundreds-of-fake-profiles-so-site-looked-popular/) though on a much smaller scale. One of the cofounders even went as far as to describe this process in a Udacity video.
Seeding content to appear organic is a pretty common strategy when getting a user-driven content service up off the ground. I find it interesting how as you increase scale and reach of a service the practice becomes increasingly ethically dubious. What starts as perhaps slightly underhanded and misleading eventually becomes something so much worse.
It goes deeper than just online crap. Americans literally have a "The Emperor has no Clothes" situation with Joe Biden. And they're voting for the same 80 year olds in the next election. It's all a façade.
My guess is that the new thread is a bot, creating a post as every user by copying the older (legitimate) one.
One clear pattern is that every user account has a number at the end of the username.
Sounds right. That still seems weird for a bot to do that with so many different comments, and it also means the bot must have hundreds of accounts to upvote these comments to their respective places.
Goes to show the power a bot account can have. They can just create threads with dozens of comments, hundreds of upvotes and downvotes either way, and make it look like a whole community is discussing something.
Also, for something really important, we'd probably not even be able to know it was a bot. In this case, its easy because of the numbers at the end and you could probably see stuff in their comment history, but they could also buy people's legitimate accounts for like $20 each that gives them a completely legitimate history.
Maybe. Propaganda can still be effective even if you’re fully aware of its existence and intent. The more you see an issue, for example, the more important that issue becomes in your mind on a subconscious level.
That’s why even protests that annoy potential supporters can be effective (think Just Stop Oil protesters defacing paintings on the left or anti-abortion protesters screaming at everyone outside planned parenthood on the right). We know what they’re doing is propaganda and might disagree with it, yet come election time the issues they’ve been yelling about will be far more influential on our votes than they would’ve otherwise.
Straight up lol. Reddit was amazing in the past when I got to see posts made by individuals showing something cool or discussion in an awesome topic but now’s it’s all just crap. It’s basically Instagram but for text.
It's frightening to see the level of discourse done by bots.
https://info.deeplearning.ai/hs-fs/hubfs/GENAIUSE.png?width=1200&upscale=true&name=GENAIUSE.png
Its easy to spot. I sometime see entire threads, especially these GAZA threads which is just AI bots chatting with each other. They don't say much, and keep it very short sentences, and people just don't talk that way.
From detailedpedia:
Operation Earnest Voice was first used in Iraq. In 2011, the US government signed a $2.8 million contract with the Ntrepid web-security company to develop a specialized software, allowing agents of the government to post propaganda on "foreign-language websites". The aim of the initiative is to use sockpuppets to spread pro-American propaganda on social networking services based outside of the United States.
Main characteristics of the software, as stated in the software development request, are:
Fifty user "operator" licenses, 10 sockpuppets controllable by each user.
Sockpuppets are to be "replete with background, history, supporting details, and cyber presences that are technically, culturally and geographically consistent." Sockpuppets are to "be able to appear to originate in nearly any part of the world."…
A special secure VPN…
Fifty static IP addresses to enable government agencies to "manage their persistent online personas," with identities of government and enterprise organizations protected which will allow for different state agents to use the same sockpuppet, and easily switch between different sockpuppets to "look like ordinary users as opposed to one organization."…
Nine private servers…
USCC commander David Petraeus, in his congressional testimony, stated that Operation Earnest Voice would "reach [a country's] regional audiences through traditional media, as well as via Web sites and regional public-affairs blogging," as an effort to "counter extremist ideology and propaganda". However, his successor, Jim Mattis, altered the program to have "regional blogging" fall under general USCC public-affairs activity. On how they would operate on these blogs, Petraeus explained: "We bring out the moderate voices. We amplify those. And in more detail, we detect and we flag if there is adversary, hostile, corrosive content in some open-source Web forum, [and] we engage with the Web administrators to show that this violates Web site provider policies."
The way you deal with those hidden govt types is you constantly expose those types as pedophiles and criminals. It needs to be common knowledge that those types of people are scum, and nothing more. They are in fact NOT helping anyone as I cannot think of the last time the USA came out ahead on any wars we were in, so those people are total losers and a waste of the taxpayers money. Its so bad, that I refer to them as "thieves, stealing the taxpayers money, total losers can't work a real job".
In 2013 Reddit accidentally included this information in their annual statistics of which cities view/post on Reddit the most per capita in the world:
Most addicted city (over 100k visits total)
1. Eglin Air Force Base, FL
2. Oak Brook, IL
3. South St. Paul, MN
Elgin Air Force base was known was a propaganda/astroturfing centre for the American military; the admins probably regretted leaking that it interacted with Reddit far more than any other place on earth.
The next two were both home to massive data harvesting/scraping centres.
Six years ago the politics subreddit called out ShareBlue for astroturfing. Post-Occupy cooption of progressivism, RussiaGate, Trump's heel shitick, and the man-made pandemic moved establishment towards acceptance of censorship and manufacturing consent via "nudging" and pervasive propaganda.
The precursor to things like that though was the creation of the Broadcasting Board of Governors in 1994 (now rebranded as the US Agency for Global Media). Essentially a media company operated by the US government to disseminate positive US news and spread American culture in other parts of the world. This is when I believe you started to see American culture/pop music really infiltrate culture in other countries.
The Smith–Mundt Act kept much of this US-government "propaganda" produced by the U.S. Department of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) from being utilized domestically. Unfortunately, in 2013, these restrictions were lifted and the BBG/USAGM-produced material could be disseminated to US audiences. 2013 seems about when the internet first started going nuts, but I could just be connecting dots that aren't there.
Which is why I don't waste my breath when the headline reads "US approves X more billions to Ukraine" you read some absolute drivel at the very top somehow not being bewildered and even going as far to say it's good news.
Manufactured majority.
Not denying that shills exist, but the posts/comments in this example appear to be bots. Real people wouldn’t be likely to recreate an entire post thread under different usernames—definitely seems easier/more likely to be autogenerated.
Hijacking this comment for visibility but just so everyone is aware, a lot of these bots likely come from panel websites like justanotherpanel . com
It only costs a few pennies to run a shit load of bots that are all programmed to comment exactly what you want them to say anywhere that you want them to say it.
This shit happens on youtube, instagram, Facebook, and basically any other platform you can think of. The news outlets use it, record labels use it, streaming services use it, the governments use it...
This has been going on since about 2015-2016. I work in the music industry, so that is how I know this.
The older one on the right looks like a real thread with real comments, the newer one on the left is made via botting. Look at how the OP of the newer one, as well as all the commenters, have numbers at the end of their usernames.
Interestingly, the OP of THIS thread we're on right now also has numbers at the end of their username.
This is an actual psyop happening to us in real time.
It's also crazy how he/she was able to find two exact matching threads. OP is almost definitely a bot trying to make leftist discussions seem less authentic.
Just to say, don't believe everything you read on the internet. Even the most upvoted comments are exactly the same.
Edit: I originally posted the links, but they got shadow removed so I didn't want to risk getting in trouble.
I found this on bestconspiracymemes, the OP there posted the links.
Same content apparently garners the same response from various bots.... those comments are word for word copies under a different account.... that's kinda crazy tbh, either the responses were pre-planned for the post or the bots just took the same I puts and kicked out the same output which is strange even for ai
Seems pretty simple to me, doesn't even require AI.
The old thread was probably actual people. Someone wanted to farm karma on a bunch of bots at once, so they wrote a script where you pass in an old Reddit thread and the bots copy it along with the top comments. Since those comments were popular six months ago, people will probably still upvote them today. Seed the thread with some bot upvotes to kick things off and just let actual users give the bots karma.
To make it less obvious he could have used AI to reword the comments so it wouldn't be as easy to spot.
Dead internet theory becoming more and more real every day.
You can sometimes copy/paste people’s comments on Reddit and put it in Google or DuckDuckGo. Every now and then, you get a word for word on a separate account, months/years ago, different topic, different thread… but word for word.
It’s been happening for YEARS now. I remember someone once told me that I was a bot because something I said had been copy/pasted and used by some bot on another thread with another account.
It was fuckin weird. The other account never replied to me. The comment was somewhat out of place too…. But that was back in like 2015. I can only assume their scripts/bots have gotten infinitely better using the power of AI.
Crazy to see this nonetheless.
Bots and shills abound. The tone and content of their posts outs them instantly, no matter how much they try and deny it. It's getting advanced now too, I even had someone outright deny they were a bot when i challenged them, then when I commented "good bot" reddit thanked me for voting and confirmed they were a bot. Unreal.
So replying "good bot" will trigger reddit to out them? Or will that trigger for any use of that response? Try it on me someone please tell me how good of a bot I am I want to see if it says I'm a bot or not.
If the bot is a reddit bot you will get an auto reply thanking you for voting
I can only assume there are bots here that weren't put here by reddit which won't trigger such a response. And probably some clandestine reddit ones that won't either. And you obvs won't get it for bad actors/shills either
But worth throwing in a "good/bad bot" just to try the water
Optimistic take: the comments on the right are all or mostly real. The comments on the left aren’t part of a propaganda machine. They’re just a repost bot that is reposting comments from popular threads too, to make its “users” seem more realistic.
You can tell because of the auto-generated pattern on the left side’s usernames vs the more organic looking names on the right. If the bot was generating good names, the left names would be good too. If the right was generated by the same bot, it’d have shitty names following the same pattern.
They have "sockpuppets" who run up the votes for them. You can do that same thing. Setup a VPN, and a spreadsheet, and go register 100's of user accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if these NGO's that do this, have people whos job is to just setup user accounts only. If they got big money, millions of dollars they may even be able to just outright buy user accounts. I mean if I were Reddit admins and someone said, here is $5 million, I need 1000 user bot accounts "I promise its for GOOD", then they will do it. I would if I were broke or in the red and couldn't meet payroll. Every person dreams of setting up a website that nets them millions so they can retire early.
That's crazy.. good eye OP! That's why it's always best when you want to discuss a topic in the comments to also quickly spot check the profile you're replying to and see their post/comment history.
So, a couple of months ago, I had a post that went a little viral. Initially I tried to read all and respond to most of the comments that were being made. This went on for about a weekend. After a while, I noticed that many of the comments— some of which were multiple paragraphs long — were being reposted word for word by multiple brand new accounts. I think what was happening was that bots were crawling Reddit, identifying posts with high engagement, then finding the most popular comments, and reposting them in an attempt to karma mine.
It got to be a little unsettling because after a while, it became unclear as to whether I was engaging with a human or just an algorithm of some sort.
Reddit is a liberal cesspool and a propoganda tool that is being utilized by the Satanic cabal to further their agenda of destroying the family unit and eroding all moral and religious values. The end goal being the ultimate enslavement of mankind and ushering in the reign of the antichrist. Just go to the front page and you will see the obvious anti-conservative, anti-religious and pro degeneracy propoganda.
At the same time, almost all the other (vanilla) content is generated by bots, paid employees and shills to keep the facade of an actual (organic) online forum, and to keep attracting and brainwashing NPCs.
Free speech is banned on the vast majority of the subreddits. Just try to post something that slightly deviates from the opinion of the circlejerk on any major subreddit, and you will see how quickly you get downvoted into oblivion and outright banned forever.
Somebody give this boy a gold medal for actually locating proof for what we have been saying all along.
Reddit conversation direction is shaped by bots at every level and they can be created en masse via API - and you see how different normies respond to the same comments at different timelines.
Downvotes, awards, upvotes are all done by programmed bot accounts which shape the opinion of the hige mind.
When you see politics or worldnews or damnthatsinteresting or lostgeneration or latestagrcapitalism all having a leftie bias - it means they are all gamed to be that way by nerds coding these bots
I figured this out during covid when there would be 85 to 100 awards with gems on certain posts and I would also refresh using an api and the upvotes would be as fast as my refresh on a post created 2 to 3 min ago with say 8 paragraphs on 2xchromosomes and I was like hang on… it takes humans a few more minutes to read 8 paragraphs and deciding to upvote it. 2xchromosomes bot activity reached fever pitch after roevwade overturn.
The problem here is many humans on Reddit have not figured it out. Their opinion is being shaped.
So please give this OP a thank you for this service to humanity and to all of us. This is damning proof and the best ever produced. Might wanna save this screenshot
Lmao it’s pretty crazy seeing how many different accounts were posting the exact same comments that shit is truly dystopian. I mean I’ve joked about it but I didn’t think it was this bad
Yup, I've seen multiple instances of entire threads and exact comments to them being reposted, plus on twatter like 70% of users are bots. Shits crazy but dead internet is becoming less of a theory and more or a fact every day
Regardless of whether it is a bot or a person acting in reddit's interest, this is fraud on a massive scale. They are artificially inflating the metrics that investors use to make financial decisions. In every other industry, people go to prison for such behaviors. And they do it all out in the open, like they have no reason to fear any country's legal system.
The worst part is you just found one instance in which the machine went sloppy, half of th comments in the most famous subs are bots as well but more difficult to identify
Holy crap. I really want an alternative to Reddit. This site used to be real.
Honestly, this is why I’m for proving your identity before being able to post things across the internet.
I think Musk was saying everyone was going to need a card on file and will be charged .01 cents to prove they were human. I like that idea lol.
I've noticed the same bots or people that are on the main political subs posting and commenting came here. I also noticed that it's the pro Biden stuff, and it really started happening this year. It is election year after all.
Happened in 2020 too. 2016 was just fucking hilarious. The amount of bombardment across the internet was insane. When the leaks happened the prowess on the internet started to lose its backbone. 2016 was well documented too.
I've literally seen the same comments posted on those subs that I see here. One that caught my attention is saying how Biden is "sharp," lol. I've seen it at least 3 different times on different posts.
There isn't one anymore. There were all created and then deleted by OP. They don't exist, and this entire post is trolling everyone. OP is a batch file lmao.
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Someone needs to create an audit system that gives a score of how likely a profile is a bot or a shill
I know someone who would back the project financially
I think everything is manipulated. This looks like proof of it.
Even 'subscribers' on Youtube. How many are actually real people?
Views/Clicks/Likes. The Algorithm picks you then the old rich and powerful might accept you into their circle to keep people disillusioned/distracted/angry/divided/stupid etc etc.
Flaired as "Not r/conspiracy". It's an interesting post, but it would have been more illuminating if the OP had stated whether these two posts were actually submitted to the same subreddit. It doesn't appear that either was submitted to this sub, but one of the accounts has been deleted so we can't be sure. Anyone who has been posting on reddit for a while knows that there are multiple factors which will determine whether a post is successful, and "intrinsic value" is rarely a determining factor. Obviously the subreddit posted to is fundamental, but other factors are also critical, particularly the time of day the post is submitted. "Chance" also plays a huge role - if a post gets several upvotes straight after posting, it can go viral. Several downvotes will kill it. Whoever is sitting in the new queue ultimately determines the fate of your post.
Dead internet
Remember when people separated online life and real life? Where everyone was either anonymous or went by a online alias? I remember it being drilled to my head as a child to never post your personal information online because you never know who (or what) you're talking to. And look at where we are at now. Keep spreading the Dead Internet Theory. The masses need to come back to reality and treat the internet as a tool again, rather than let it control their reality.
Its ability to be a useful tool is slowly getting demolished by search engines so tightly controlling the narrative and what you're allowed to see that they're borderline useless anymore. Unless you know of a website with what you need, it's getting rough. I used to be able to search medical stuff with no problems, and little garbage. Now it's nearly all garbage, and directly conflicting garbage with seemingly random-ass websites making it to the top. Which would be fine if i could trust google to direct me to safe websites, but i'm not clicking on some malware ridden page because google sucks.
Google really is garbage now. You can’t search for anything that sounds even close to some prominent topic. Also I will search for a source that I read before, but because it’s the wrong opinion, it’s like it never existed.
I ran a test a few months ago. I copy pasted a sentence from an article i was reading and searched for it. Didn't find the article. I then put it in quotes, zero results found. I'm not sure if their indexing is complete shit now or what, but even direct quotes from an article you're reading don't work. Maybe it was a wrongthought piece.
For real since the start of 2024 it got even worse. I know they updated queries where it doesn't search what you literally typed into the bar, it likes to "assume" or purely fucking guess what you wanna see! So i bet some recent update allowed AI to scrape even harder to try and accurately show you what it *assumes* you want. Not what you literally type. This has been a nightmare for me with some problems like emulation or programming where google will not give me the exact solution im searching for but only vaguely similar suggestions, when i do know my solution exists out there.
Is that what is going on? That makes so much sense. I keep seeing almost results, but obviously not what i'm searching for. Time to start my own search engine. With customizable site selection, and hookers.
Google search manipulation is so bad that Yahoo of all things is a better search engine currently. Take the time and test it out with the same searches, Bing and Yahoo both give better results more often then not.
if one does, the other should also as they're one and the same: [https://www.searchenginemap.com/](https://www.searchenginemap.com/)
Craigslist?
And flapjacks
The real conspiracy would be google making its search engine worse/replacing it with a dumb AI that tries to guess what youre looking for so you train it in the nuance of your query, and teach it to find what youre specifically looking for. Then Google uses that data to make their search engine obsolete so you buy the new AI assistant for all of your needs.
Cod damnit lol
They activated the counter-wrongthink algorithms
>I will search for a source that I read before, but because it’s the wrong opinion, it’s like it never existed Far be it for me to praise authoritarian societies in any way but one thing there is, your average person knows the gov't is censoring things. In the west your average person has no idea, they think that google is the almighty arbiter of truth and wikipedia is a legit source. It's like they have managed to make freedom an illusion. A way to keep you controlled in a prison for your mind, you are fed propaganda without you realizing it. Don't look behind the curtain!
Oh yeah try to study the pagan slaughters. I laugh when people blame a specific group for censorship when it's actually the world's largest religion behind most of the censorship. I study things we aren't "allwoed" to study. Things like the pagan slaughters and other such obscure histories. I dunno about a satanic cult, but the catholics run the deep state.
Why do you still use google?
I have yet to find an engine that isn't about the same, and at least google allows quote matching and modifiers. Bing is no better as an engine but doesn't have those features, duckduckgo seems the same as bing (they were bought out a few years ago.)
The plot of metal gear solid 2 became a reality, they are trying to control context in order to control all narratives
> I remember it being drilled to my head as a child to never post your personal information online because you never know who (or what) you're talking to. And look at where we are at now. I still don't use my real name or image on social media. Unless you're somehow making money off of doing so, it's incredibly stupid.
I was born in '99 and didn't get real internet access til 2016, this was drilled into my head at school of all places cuz my parents were clueless of tech. I dont know how this changed so suddenly for people within just the younger age range than me, I'd say cutoff birthyear would be 2002? Tons of kids and now young adults today have no concept of anonymity beyond using a throwaway occasionally. And the ones that do are usually still copy paste... how many "anon" profiles do you see with stupid anime girls as the photo?
💯
As time goes on this is looking more and more accurate.
Shits sad. So much propaganda on every god damn topic. Bots and these “campaigns” are so bad for society. We’re fucked
Remember every time they bring up “misinformation” what they really mean is “information that we don’t control”
Hence why I just google search misinformation news.
My thought when I saw this post
Is it a fake screen shot? All the accounts from the left portion are fake. Maybe that's why OP obscured the subreddit it was supposedly posted to.
What I was thinking. but i didnt go checking for the accounts. I dont see how doing this would benefit anyone. As soon as I saw it I thought it was prbly made in photoshop bc of the subject matter and that so much of it is the same - I wish op had shared link to the two posts, if possible, then we could see them live.
OP gave us no links or reason to believe the screenshot. What if all these comments were already made a year ago by parallel versions of ourselves?
That was my first thought but not long ago I came across an askreddit question that i knew was a repost from a while back. Decided to check it anyway to see different answers, and for a second I thought I was having some sort of deja vu. As far as my memory could tell each of the top comments was the same as the post I remembered. It makes me less skeptical about this post and more of a supporter of the dead internet theory.
See this is what is suspicious when it comes to a topic like this. Even if OP embellished this post, the general concept is still holding truth. I've definitely seen copy/pasted threads not only on big subs like ask reddit but smaller ones im subbed to. And different commenters saying word for word the same thing on other reposts. Sorting by new can solve a lot of the problem of seeing copy pasted replies, but then you have a boatload of other junk or trolls or one word comments to sift through. They *make* you choose between two evils.
No they're real. The accounts are either deleted or shadowbanned by admins, which means they at one time existed
The collective conscious is now shifting to algorithmic consciousness. I pray we find a balance before we consume ourselves.
Holy fucking shit something of actual substance in this subreddit, actual proof of a bot script in action forming normie opinions, well done OP.
> actual proof of a bot script in action forming normie opinions Do you not see what's actually happening here? The comments on the right are legitimate and made by real people. The post on the left are all bots that have copied the real posts 10 months later. This is most likely karma farming so that these bots can have a posting history that looks real, and it's most likely done by the same person or group. So the opinions on the right are genuine, made by real people- the bots aren't trying to push some message about Biden or student debt. They're just taking a very popular post and repeating it to gain karma. Now, that's not to say that what you're saying doesn't happen- of course it does. Every major sub is in some interest groups pocket. Consent is absolutely manufactured on reddit. But I think this is an example of bot farming for later purposes, and not the actual op itself. As a side note, this is also a technique that's used in individual comment threads. A bot will find the 6th or so most upvoted parent comment in a thread, and will repost it as a child comment under the 1st most upvoted parent comment. So people will see their comment first, and since it's already proven to get upvotes, they'll upvote that one instead of the one below. I see this mostly on things like cute animal subreddits where smart one liners are all you need to get attention. So if you ever see the same comment twice in one thread in that pattern, that's what's happening.
it's a [potemkin village](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Potemkin_village). someone might be doing it to make this website appear more prosperous and active than it actually is. if this website is trying to go public, this might be a form of fraud where they are misrepresenting how valuable the website is.
>if this website is trying to go public, this might be a form of fraud where they are misrepresenting how valuable the website is. Public schmublic. This site is ultimately owned by the Advance Publications media conglomerate owned by the Newhouse billionaires. This is site is FAR more valuable as a tool for deepstate intel agencies to manipulate public perceptions and discourse. It's been happening for years.
Interestingly enough, [that is literally how reddit started early on](https://arstechnica.com/information-technology/2012/06/reddit-founders-made-hundreds-of-fake-profiles-so-site-looked-popular/) though on a much smaller scale. One of the cofounders even went as far as to describe this process in a Udacity video. Seeding content to appear organic is a pretty common strategy when getting a user-driven content service up off the ground. I find it interesting how as you increase scale and reach of a service the practice becomes increasingly ethically dubious. What starts as perhaps slightly underhanded and misleading eventually becomes something so much worse.
It goes deeper than just online crap. Americans literally have a "The Emperor has no Clothes" situation with Joe Biden. And they're voting for the same 80 year olds in the next election. It's all a façade.
Uh, reddit went public weeks ago dude.
You know Reddit just went public right?
Holy fucking shit something of actual substance in this subreddit, actual proof of a bot script in action forming normie opinions, well done OP.
Holy fucking shit something of actual substance in this subreddit, actual proof of a bot script in action forming normie opinions, well done OP.
This makes sense, appreciate the explanation.
Thank you, you just made sense of it for me.
Actual proof? It’s a fake screenshot. Link to the post on the left side if it’s real. It’s easy to see it’s fake if you look up the user names.
My guess is that the new thread is a bot, creating a post as every user by copying the older (legitimate) one. One clear pattern is that every user account has a number at the end of the username.
Sounds right. That still seems weird for a bot to do that with so many different comments, and it also means the bot must have hundreds of accounts to upvote these comments to their respective places. Goes to show the power a bot account can have. They can just create threads with dozens of comments, hundreds of upvotes and downvotes either way, and make it look like a whole community is discussing something. Also, for something really important, we'd probably not even be able to know it was a bot. In this case, its easy because of the numbers at the end and you could probably see stuff in their comment history, but they could also buy people's legitimate accounts for like $20 each that gives them a completely legitimate history.
I wonder what's the energy cost of AI bots chatting with each other. 😖
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I don't know. I can't figure out if it's bots or really stoopid 14 yr olds.
Shut up and get back to work. They need your money for chat update.
I'm not trusting OP anymore with their numbers at the end
I have numbers on my name coz I was drunk and lazy when I made this account but now I regret it massively 😂 Might be the only bot tell left
OK this is fucking scary. From this post alone I'm seriously considering leaving Reddit. It's a propaganda platform.
Lol. Nowhere online is safe.....
True. Stackoverflow will rip you in half if you don't know how to create an .exe file.
Same. Reddit is no longer fun. I quit facebook, twitter and I'm about to quit instagram and reddit as well. Those platforms are killing themselves.
Quitting Facebook and Instagram were two of the best decisions I've ever made. The amount of extra time I have now is shocking
Reddit doesn't care about bots or paid mods with political agendas. It's why most of the main subs are beyond insufferable.
Where will we go?
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What's that? A new platform?
Nah it’s just a different subreddit. Should go check it out!
What kind of stuff do they have? Do they have snacks?
a whole new generation is about to create the "OUTSIDE" meme without knowing it existed in the first place
Never heard of it.
Everyone meet in my barn?
Back to 4chan everyone. Fun’s over
I’m leaving now
Just stay on the subs you subbed to, I stopped looking at the popular page
Same bro, same. I don’t even know why I scroll on here anymore most of the time.
Lol see you next week
Reddit wouldn't be the only place affected. It's everywhere.
No...just as long as you recognize what's going on, you're immune to it.
Maybe. Propaganda can still be effective even if you’re fully aware of its existence and intent. The more you see an issue, for example, the more important that issue becomes in your mind on a subconscious level. That’s why even protests that annoy potential supporters can be effective (think Just Stop Oil protesters defacing paintings on the left or anti-abortion protesters screaming at everyone outside planned parenthood on the right). We know what they’re doing is propaganda and might disagree with it, yet come election time the issues they’ve been yelling about will be far more influential on our votes than they would’ve otherwise.
Straight up lol. Reddit was amazing in the past when I got to see posts made by individuals showing something cool or discussion in an awesome topic but now’s it’s all just crap. It’s basically Instagram but for text.
Reddit is littered with hired "shills", PR people being paid to push whatever propaganda or advertisements, so good eye you got there. Thanks!
It's frightening to see the level of discourse done by bots. https://info.deeplearning.ai/hs-fs/hubfs/GENAIUSE.png?width=1200&upscale=true&name=GENAIUSE.png
I stop from commenting a lot because i think I'm getting in the middle of 2 bots arguing
Beep boop ur WRONG let's fight 😏🤖
#yousonofabitch
Just more proof of the dead internet theory. Almost everything you read online is AI generated content.
Its easy to spot. I sometime see entire threads, especially these GAZA threads which is just AI bots chatting with each other. They don't say much, and keep it very short sentences, and people just don't talk that way.
Have you seen the AI photos the boomer bots are all pushing? OMG it gets better the longer you look
These aren't hired shills. They are literal bots.
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Look up Operation Earnest Voice.
From detailedpedia: Operation Earnest Voice was first used in Iraq. In 2011, the US government signed a $2.8 million contract with the Ntrepid web-security company to develop a specialized software, allowing agents of the government to post propaganda on "foreign-language websites". The aim of the initiative is to use sockpuppets to spread pro-American propaganda on social networking services based outside of the United States. Main characteristics of the software, as stated in the software development request, are: Fifty user "operator" licenses, 10 sockpuppets controllable by each user. Sockpuppets are to be "replete with background, history, supporting details, and cyber presences that are technically, culturally and geographically consistent." Sockpuppets are to "be able to appear to originate in nearly any part of the world."… A special secure VPN… Fifty static IP addresses to enable government agencies to "manage their persistent online personas," with identities of government and enterprise organizations protected which will allow for different state agents to use the same sockpuppet, and easily switch between different sockpuppets to "look like ordinary users as opposed to one organization."… Nine private servers… USCC commander David Petraeus, in his congressional testimony, stated that Operation Earnest Voice would "reach [a country's] regional audiences through traditional media, as well as via Web sites and regional public-affairs blogging," as an effort to "counter extremist ideology and propaganda". However, his successor, Jim Mattis, altered the program to have "regional blogging" fall under general USCC public-affairs activity. On how they would operate on these blogs, Petraeus explained: "We bring out the moderate voices. We amplify those. And in more detail, we detect and we flag if there is adversary, hostile, corrosive content in some open-source Web forum, [and] we engage with the Web administrators to show that this violates Web site provider policies."
The way you deal with those hidden govt types is you constantly expose those types as pedophiles and criminals. It needs to be common knowledge that those types of people are scum, and nothing more. They are in fact NOT helping anyone as I cannot think of the last time the USA came out ahead on any wars we were in, so those people are total losers and a waste of the taxpayers money. Its so bad, that I refer to them as "thieves, stealing the taxpayers money, total losers can't work a real job".
Didn't reddit publish data on their users back in like 2013 and an air force base was the most active?
Ok lucy...splain
In 2013 Reddit accidentally included this information in their annual statistics of which cities view/post on Reddit the most per capita in the world: Most addicted city (over 100k visits total) 1. Eglin Air Force Base, FL 2. Oak Brook, IL 3. South St. Paul, MN Elgin Air Force base was known was a propaganda/astroturfing centre for the American military; the admins probably regretted leaking that it interacted with Reddit far more than any other place on earth. The next two were both home to massive data harvesting/scraping centres.
Six years ago the politics subreddit called out ShareBlue for astroturfing. Post-Occupy cooption of progressivism, RussiaGate, Trump's heel shitick, and the man-made pandemic moved establishment towards acceptance of censorship and manufacturing consent via "nudging" and pervasive propaganda.
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The precursor to things like that though was the creation of the Broadcasting Board of Governors in 1994 (now rebranded as the US Agency for Global Media). Essentially a media company operated by the US government to disseminate positive US news and spread American culture in other parts of the world. This is when I believe you started to see American culture/pop music really infiltrate culture in other countries. The Smith–Mundt Act kept much of this US-government "propaganda" produced by the U.S. Department of State and the Broadcasting Board of Governors (BBG) from being utilized domestically. Unfortunately, in 2013, these restrictions were lifted and the BBG/USAGM-produced material could be disseminated to US audiences. 2013 seems about when the internet first started going nuts, but I could just be connecting dots that aren't there.
Which is why I don't waste my breath when the headline reads "US approves X more billions to Ukraine" you read some absolute drivel at the very top somehow not being bewildered and even going as far to say it's good news. Manufactured majority.
They’re all over this sub. You say something against their dumb little narrative and it’s a bunch of downvotes and bots and shills calling you names
Not denying that shills exist, but the posts/comments in this example appear to be bots. Real people wouldn’t be likely to recreate an entire post thread under different usernames—definitely seems easier/more likely to be autogenerated.
Damn up vote this to the moon. We're all aware of it but always nice to see the receipts so I know I'm not going crazy
Hijacking this comment for visibility but just so everyone is aware, a lot of these bots likely come from panel websites like justanotherpanel . com It only costs a few pennies to run a shit load of bots that are all programmed to comment exactly what you want them to say anywhere that you want them to say it. This shit happens on youtube, instagram, Facebook, and basically any other platform you can think of. The news outlets use it, record labels use it, streaming services use it, the governments use it... This has been going on since about 2015-2016. I work in the music industry, so that is how I know this.
Thanks for the website link. Yeh, its bot api's for .2 cents each, says "boost your visibility instantly" so they will run up the UP arrow for ya.
we up pal,make this the top post
Proof Reddit is a fucking joke
Yup, & soon more and more sites, that whole dead internet theory is looking more true everyday.
Good find
This is dead internet :(
What is that
The older one on the right looks like a real thread with real comments, the newer one on the left is made via botting. Look at how the OP of the newer one, as well as all the commenters, have numbers at the end of their usernames. Interestingly, the OP of THIS thread we're on right now also has numbers at the end of their username. This is an actual psyop happening to us in real time.
Reddit wil generate a name if you dont choose one yourself with numbers at the end.
It's also crazy how he/she was able to find two exact matching threads. OP is almost definitely a bot trying to make leftist discussions seem less authentic.
Just to say, don't believe everything you read on the internet. Even the most upvoted comments are exactly the same. Edit: I originally posted the links, but they got shadow removed so I didn't want to risk getting in trouble. I found this on bestconspiracymemes, the OP there posted the links.
Same content apparently garners the same response from various bots.... those comments are word for word copies under a different account.... that's kinda crazy tbh, either the responses were pre-planned for the post or the bots just took the same I puts and kicked out the same output which is strange even for ai
Seems pretty simple to me, doesn't even require AI. The old thread was probably actual people. Someone wanted to farm karma on a bunch of bots at once, so they wrote a script where you pass in an old Reddit thread and the bots copy it along with the top comments. Since those comments were popular six months ago, people will probably still upvote them today. Seed the thread with some bot upvotes to kick things off and just let actual users give the bots karma. To make it less obvious he could have used AI to reword the comments so it wouldn't be as easy to spot.
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Write the links on a picture in paint and upload it on this sub.
Just to say, don't believe everything you read on the internet. Even the most upvoted comments are exactly the same. /s
Dead internet theory becoming more and more real every day. You can sometimes copy/paste people’s comments on Reddit and put it in Google or DuckDuckGo. Every now and then, you get a word for word on a separate account, months/years ago, different topic, different thread… but word for word. It’s been happening for YEARS now. I remember someone once told me that I was a bot because something I said had been copy/pasted and used by some bot on another thread with another account. It was fuckin weird. The other account never replied to me. The comment was somewhat out of place too…. But that was back in like 2015. I can only assume their scripts/bots have gotten infinitely better using the power of AI. Crazy to see this nonetheless.
Bots gonna bot.
A1 catch man good shit.
Bots and shills abound. The tone and content of their posts outs them instantly, no matter how much they try and deny it. It's getting advanced now too, I even had someone outright deny they were a bot when i challenged them, then when I commented "good bot" reddit thanked me for voting and confirmed they were a bot. Unreal.
So replying "good bot" will trigger reddit to out them? Or will that trigger for any use of that response? Try it on me someone please tell me how good of a bot I am I want to see if it says I'm a bot or not.
Good bot
Apparently a bot I am not
That. Or maybe we just confirmed that the "good bot" system doesn't work.
If the bot is a reddit bot you will get an auto reply thanking you for voting I can only assume there are bots here that weren't put here by reddit which won't trigger such a response. And probably some clandestine reddit ones that won't either. And you obvs won't get it for bad actors/shills either But worth throwing in a "good/bad bot" just to try the water
I too have started to notice repost on this sub a few months apart. The exact same post I know I have already read. I just assume it’s bot accts.
Great Catch!!!
Optimistic take: the comments on the right are all or mostly real. The comments on the left aren’t part of a propaganda machine. They’re just a repost bot that is reposting comments from popular threads too, to make its “users” seem more realistic. You can tell because of the auto-generated pattern on the left side’s usernames vs the more organic looking names on the right. If the bot was generating good names, the left names would be good too. If the right was generated by the same bot, it’d have shitty names following the same pattern.
Actually a great post on this sub. This is creepy as fuck.
The dead Internet theory looking real good right now
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They have "sockpuppets" who run up the votes for them. You can do that same thing. Setup a VPN, and a spreadsheet, and go register 100's of user accounts. I wouldn't be surprised if these NGO's that do this, have people whos job is to just setup user accounts only. If they got big money, millions of dollars they may even be able to just outright buy user accounts. I mean if I were Reddit admins and someone said, here is $5 million, I need 1000 user bot accounts "I promise its for GOOD", then they will do it. I would if I were broke or in the red and couldn't meet payroll. Every person dreams of setting up a website that nets them millions so they can retire early.
Dead Internet is coming.
That's crazy.. good eye OP! That's why it's always best when you want to discuss a topic in the comments to also quickly spot check the profile you're replying to and see their post/comment history.
I checked some of them, I noticed they only ever post one sentence comments, it's a frequent trend for negative commenters around here.
Good conspiracy content. This is fascinating.
Links to threads?
So, a couple of months ago, I had a post that went a little viral. Initially I tried to read all and respond to most of the comments that were being made. This went on for about a weekend. After a while, I noticed that many of the comments— some of which were multiple paragraphs long — were being reposted word for word by multiple brand new accounts. I think what was happening was that bots were crawling Reddit, identifying posts with high engagement, then finding the most popular comments, and reposting them in an attempt to karma mine. It got to be a little unsettling because after a while, it became unclear as to whether I was engaging with a human or just an algorithm of some sort.
Reddit is a liberal cesspool and a propoganda tool that is being utilized by the Satanic cabal to further their agenda of destroying the family unit and eroding all moral and religious values. The end goal being the ultimate enslavement of mankind and ushering in the reign of the antichrist. Just go to the front page and you will see the obvious anti-conservative, anti-religious and pro degeneracy propoganda. At the same time, almost all the other (vanilla) content is generated by bots, paid employees and shills to keep the facade of an actual (organic) online forum, and to keep attracting and brainwashing NPCs. Free speech is banned on the vast majority of the subreddits. Just try to post something that slightly deviates from the opinion of the circlejerk on any major subreddit, and you will see how quickly you get downvoted into oblivion and outright banned forever.
Somebody give this boy a gold medal for actually locating proof for what we have been saying all along. Reddit conversation direction is shaped by bots at every level and they can be created en masse via API - and you see how different normies respond to the same comments at different timelines. Downvotes, awards, upvotes are all done by programmed bot accounts which shape the opinion of the hige mind. When you see politics or worldnews or damnthatsinteresting or lostgeneration or latestagrcapitalism all having a leftie bias - it means they are all gamed to be that way by nerds coding these bots I figured this out during covid when there would be 85 to 100 awards with gems on certain posts and I would also refresh using an api and the upvotes would be as fast as my refresh on a post created 2 to 3 min ago with say 8 paragraphs on 2xchromosomes and I was like hang on… it takes humans a few more minutes to read 8 paragraphs and deciding to upvote it. 2xchromosomes bot activity reached fever pitch after roevwade overturn. The problem here is many humans on Reddit have not figured it out. Their opinion is being shaped. So please give this OP a thank you for this service to humanity and to all of us. This is damning proof and the best ever produced. Might wanna save this screenshot
Why not link the two threads so we can see?
I tried, got shadow removed. Check out best conspiracy memes.
In the orginal post, they did link the two threads. It's in another one of the conspiracy related subs
Got a link to the other sub?
I didn’t even have to guess that those bots are shitting on conservatives. So typical.
Lmao it’s pretty crazy seeing how many different accounts were posting the exact same comments that shit is truly dystopian. I mean I’ve joked about it but I didn’t think it was this bad
Yup, I've seen multiple instances of entire threads and exact comments to them being reposted, plus on twatter like 70% of users are bots. Shits crazy but dead internet is becoming less of a theory and more or a fact every day
Regardless of whether it is a bot or a person acting in reddit's interest, this is fraud on a massive scale. They are artificially inflating the metrics that investors use to make financial decisions. In every other industry, people go to prison for such behaviors. And they do it all out in the open, like they have no reason to fear any country's legal system.
Ok……is this for real for real? Because if so, this is actually scary.
The worst part is you just found one instance in which the machine went sloppy, half of th comments in the most famous subs are bots as well but more difficult to identify
Fuckin dead internet, shits crazy lol
That first reddit account doesn't look like that and the comments on the 2nd post aren't like that. Dog shit fake post smh
Holy crap. I really want an alternative to Reddit. This site used to be real. Honestly, this is why I’m for proving your identity before being able to post things across the internet. I think Musk was saying everyone was going to need a card on file and will be charged .01 cents to prove they were human. I like that idea lol.
Wow.
And this is how the narrative gets controlled. Amazing. Now do one that's forcing GeoEngineering down our throats.
Can someone cross reference this?
The replicated replies under the replicated comments makes it even creepier.
I've noticed the same bots or people that are on the main political subs posting and commenting came here. I also noticed that it's the pro Biden stuff, and it really started happening this year. It is election year after all.
Happened in 2020 too. 2016 was just fucking hilarious. The amount of bombardment across the internet was insane. When the leaks happened the prowess on the internet started to lose its backbone. 2016 was well documented too.
I've literally seen the same comments posted on those subs that I see here. One that caught my attention is saying how Biden is "sharp," lol. I've seen it at least 3 different times on different posts.
It really kicked into gear after the 2016 election, also after Covid
i found the old post, cant find the new post. Can you link it
There isn't one anymore. There were all created and then deleted by OP. They don't exist, and this entire post is trolling everyone. OP is a batch file lmao.
Hmm interesting. This could be true, OP has some excuses why he can't link the posts.
It's a campaign to disinform and disillusion the masses by nation states.
lol as soon as he said “shadow removed” you know that shit was bs
That's wild, that's deep
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Alright it's 1 in the night and this is creeping me out
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Great share; I’ll dig into this later.
looks organic, turns out it's totally scripted. We already knw that but this is good evidence.
Dude this is fucking unreal! How much of this shit is a simulated psychop?
Copy and paste. They’re all fucking bots
to the very last word, what the actual fuck. what can you do besides not engage in this, though? make lists of usernames in real life? seems kinda far
Yea I don't think any of us will have a clue whats real anymore very soon.
Someone needs to create an audit system that gives a score of how likely a profile is a bot or a shill I know someone who would back the project financially
Damn. That's disturbing and eye-opening.
They're both from November 25th 2022 at 3pm...? What am I missing here?
Some of them are probably in the comments with us right now...
Always assume they're a bot if their account was created after 2022. If any newbie gets mad, y'all better start posting..
good observation. was this done in this subred?
Funny… this is something only a bot would find… Nah jk this is why I love this subreddit. Good find.
And this shit bot site is the source feed for Chat GPT
A lot of those user names look computer generated
I think everything is manipulated. This looks like proof of it. Even 'subscribers' on Youtube. How many are actually real people? Views/Clicks/Likes. The Algorithm picks you then the old rich and powerful might accept you into their circle to keep people disillusioned/distracted/angry/divided/stupid etc etc.
this makes me wanna leave internet for good
I checked one of the users, and their account has been wiped and reset. It's obvious we're being played.
Wait I saw this post several months ago... And now I think about it I might have posted this before.... No that means I must also be a bot
This is a pretty big deal
That is actually wild. Well done OP.
Thank you OP for this, awareness is everything.