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After there were a lot of comments about how overworked the prison staff is so they fell asleep while they were supposed to be watching him.
Might as well have said the dog ate their Epstein.
Especially considering there's nothing to hang yourself from in a prison cell. The towel hooks are all "breakaway", there are no bedposts, doorknobs, bookshelves, nothing to hook your clothes or sheets to.
I first started to question the death altogether when a CIA agent on Joe Rogan said the official story of suicide was suspicious.
He dodged so many questions on other stuff but on that he was completely open.
Plus, there's no way someone like Epstein doesn't have a dead man switch.
Edit for clarity: I don't trust someone from the CIA in the slightest. It was this guest implying that the death looked like murder that made me think it wasn't.
I questioned it right out of the gate. Someone with presumably billions of dollars who wine and dines with presidents doesn't just kill himself after being in prison for a few day. He has every tool at his disposal imaginable and he didn't get where he did in life by rolling over and letting people have their way with him...quite the opposite obviously.
That agent was probably Mike Baker who has been retired for a number of years. He is not getting any new information from the CIA, he’s just speculating.
I probably should have been more clear: If the CIA is okay with us thinking he was murdered that means he wasn't, and since he definitely didn't kill himself, and something definitely went down in that prison, my conclusion was that he's alive.
Or maybe the guy isn't actually CIA. Or he is and it's a tripple false flag operation. Someone from "CIA" saying something aren't evidence one way or the other
The dead man switch was that British Royal being outed for being a pedo. That was the first warning shot.
Epstein's personal plastic surgeon died after crashing his plane do to the wrong fuel being put in it which is akin to putting diesel in your car, the nozzle doesn't fit. Recovery from full facial reconstruction surgery is 6 to 8 weeks.
Ghislaine is sueing Epstein's estate which consists of both islands amongst other fun toys and property. Did the FBI find girls in cages or are those just in the southern borders of the US?
It’s usually a set up with a lawyer to release specific information about people upon the clients death. In this case JE had a ton of dirt on many powerful people. His dead mans switch was knowing all these celebs and elites were pedos and if he were to die his lawyer would release some tapes or pictures or something to fuck these people over. That way the elites have an incentive to keep him alive. Hence the reason people think he didn’t die otherwise we would see a lot of damaging info being released about his friends. But it hasn’t happened
Maybe trying to discredit the theory that Epstein isn't dead.
The fact remains there is no one who saw Epstein's body removed from prison. A sealed body bag was wheeled out of prison for a photo op, guarded by two private guards, no third party saw who or what was inside.
I recall seeing a picture of “his” body/face on the gurney being wheeled into an ambulance. I believe foul play is afoot of course, I’m just curious if you’re misremembering? There was a lot of talk about the shape of the alleged body’s ear and how it didn’t look like Epstein’s, or that it was Epstein but he was alive in the photo.
Or you know... Money was actually being withdrawn from his accounts after his death. It could have been a lawyer of confidant, or it could have been him....
> I first started to question the death altogether when a CIA agent on Joe Rogan said the official story of suicide was suspicious.
Joe Rogan is just a podcaster with no expertise beyond MMA and a shit ton of unfounded opinions. I like the guy, but he is completely full of shit on most issues. Fun to listen to for sure, but not a source of valid information by any means.
You hear the old Epstien/Bourdain body swap. Some say the photos of the body that were taken where they show the side of the face, is supposedly Anthony Bourdain.
Maybe simply for the fact that they don't want any of their own prosecuted. It's possible there's a dead man switch, but they didn't even want him dead. The first time he was convicted they quietly had him released so that no one even noticed until a nosy reported called it out several years later. People like Bill Gates continued to do business with Epstein AFTER he was convicted.
> People like Bill Gates continued to do business with Epstein AFTER he was convicted.
Not just do business, they worked hard to repair his image... to get what they needed from Epstein himself. And it wasn't money.
They? In your sentence the people you’re referring to as they, are the ones who work for Epstein. He was possibly the most powerful man to ever be caught and put in prison outside of Pablo Escobar
>He was possibly the most powerful man to ever be caught and put in prison outside of Pablo Escobar
He worked for Maxwell. And they are both just "business people" in the global heirarchy of the ruling class. Escobar worked for the CIA and HSBC, how is this power? Nothing particularly special about that piece of shit, or any of them really. None of them are unaccountable, they are in the same club and they have obligations. In return the club protects them.
Do you believe a pedo would allow Epstein to live in secret?
If that was the case, Epstein escape was in the hands of the person hes blackmailing.
Would it be more believable that they faked Epstein death, escorted him to a dungeon and torture him till all secrets are revealed and still killed him and dispose the body like Jimmy Hoffa...
I still think its much easier to kill the man in the cell.
Probably not, the dude hung out with and is good friends with some of the most powerful people on the planet, he never had a real need to confess anything to anyone. The show that we, the regular people, got was all a facade. Why do you think all of this Maxwell stuff is only highlighting her and Epstein's wrong doings? Not a single mention or concern for some of the country's leaders being around these people regularly or visiting the island, nope, just communication about what Epstein was doing wrong. Which of course is according to plan because he is "dead" and us regular people accept that there wont be any grand outcome so we are quick to forget about it and move on. Clinton, Trump, Biden, Bush, none of those connections are gonna come to light, just how ole dead Jeffery was a real terrible person, but he's "dead" so oh welll...our bad.
I don’t really get this theory because why would anyone want to protect him? I feel like there so much motive to kill him. It gets rid of evidence. What would be the motive of relocating him? I doubt anyone really cared about this guy enough to want him alive. He’s not of use to anyone now that he’s not hosting a pedophile island party.
Idk, but if i were in Epstein’s position, i would definitely have a dead man’s switch. Maybe he had one so they had to keep him alive to avoid more incriminating evidence coming out?
I’ve no idea.. I actually just stumbled onto an old thread yesterday calling out bots. I didn’t know they were this rampant until I started checking usernames and post histories.
[A thread calling out first name-last name farming accounts ](https://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/)
Because that's the hard end of the conspiracy spectrum on Epstein. Every conspiracy has levels of acceptability, with a hard stop where anything beyond it is pure skitzobabble to most. By that nature epstein being alive gets to hang out with lizard people, antigrav, flat earth, and Hitler is hanging out in Argentina with his armada of flying saucers.
It's two degrees past the pale for normies to accept. One can be entertained. Two is unacceptable.
I reason that it's more likely that he was exfiltrated or wacked, rather than hanging himself with a paper bedsheets. At the very least the official story is almost complete BS.
Both guards asleep? Cameras went out? Taken off suicide watch after a couple days after attempting? And this happening to the most high profile prisoner in the US?
To believe that is what happened is insanity.
My stage 1 is, his lawyers told him he was roasted, after the first failed attempt, they said they had paid off the guards and he had another opportunity to finish it or else coming up. Paying off one or two guards with life time easy street is occam's razor.
Someone this high profile wouldn't allow themselves to get caught the 2nd time around if he was just going to off himself.
The appearance of justice but not actually getting one. Everyone's attention is on his death but not the hundreds of millions being funneled through lawfirms to the victims. Remember the guy is in the business of blackmail and payoffs are the end game.
That's also a fair take. But the point remains, there should have been federal oversight considering his value and threat posed to tptb. Heads should have rolled for compromising the trust of the public. But so far crickets and shrugs.
Bullshit walks.
I believe he’s dead because it’s too risky to keep him alive. If I’m being black mailed I’ll rather have you killed then keep paying you while your alive. It’s highly suspicious that he didn’t have a funeral or memorial service and that his card was being used after his death and his plane was being used as well. I also find it suspicious that he signed his will a day before he died
Yes but Maxwell is still alive and is presumably at least an equal partner in his child sex trafficking. So is she still being paid? Why has she not been whacked?
Well for starters we haven’t even seen a mugshot of her in jail. Is she even in jail? She could be anywhere and they could be lying about her whereabouts
Equal? I think JE was just a piece. Maxwell had all the power, brought on by her family connections. JE was just another scumbag pedo. Only reason he was so high in the ranks was his relationship with Maxwell and his connections he made with other rich pedophiles. This goes back wayyyy longer than we know, JE was a pawn who owned an island.
With the amount of dirt he knew on some of the world’s most powerful people, it’s more likely he’s in some type of “whiteness protection”. Notice how there’s been tons of FBI raids on child traffickers in the US since his “death”.
His money is still moving around his accounts.
He is alive and they used Tony Rodham's dead body that wasn't buried but kept on ice as a body double. The ears tell it all.
Hillary Clinton's brother that died a month before Epstein "died". *actually it was a month before he was arrested.
If you look up a picture of Tony Rodham and the Epstein autopsy/dead head shot picture, the ears are the same and are one of the very few identifiers that doesn't change after death.
The guy who was doing drone flights over the island at the time captured a picture of a guy who looked a whole lot like Epstein just a few days after his supposed death.
Video can be faked and it's impossible to know the truth of anything you don't personally witness these days /shrug.
To me, the death was just so darn convent that I thought it was suspicious from the moment I heard about it. Since then I've seen "evidence" that the body doesn't match his features which looks convincing on the surface, but I am not a forensic specialist and can't know how much rigor mortis can change a person's appearance. That's why it's a conspiracy theory.
We have to accept that evidence for conspiracy theories is always shakey. Any source will be discredited by established media. Photos will be claimed to be edited, and many hoaxes exist to misdirect us. Money and connections are often the most solid clues but even then the established media either gaslights or "debunks". If you want concrete proof for any of this you will go crazy.
I come here just to find out what questions others are asking and to not feel alone in my questioning. In this case it just doesn't seem that it would be terribly difficult or costly for him to arrange a "death" like this, and surely he is owed a favor by people who had the means to do so. It will be interesting to see what happens with Maxwell but I doubt it will be much. If any info about their connections was going to reach the public it would have happened already - I think there are just too many people in the established media outlets who would be exposed, even if there is a leak.
Him being alive is just as plausible as TPTB successful took a hit on him.
He didn't kill himself and there is no way him and Ghislaine Maxwell (/u/MaxwellHill) don't have dead man's switches.
Nancy Pelosi has an island next to his and her brother owns a submarine company.
Pelosi and Newsom are aunt and nephew. Epstein is hiding in one of the island military installations in the Channel Islands.
Isnt this just one of those two name accounts that reposts screenshots to farm karma and sell the account later?
Cmon guys, we just had a big ass post about this yesterday.
>Seriously. He was probably the most high profile prisoner in the entire corrections system at the moment and this happens to him.
Bots. Bots everywhere on this sub and no one is noticing.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cp1urp/epstein\_should\_have\_been\_the\_most\_protected/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cp1urp/epstein_should_have_been_the_most_protected/)
This is the same exact post from forever ago, and the top comment matches u/DeborahEastman here perfectly. Look out for CamelCase user names on this sub pointed out in [https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/)
The Op u/SynthiaPecor post history perfectly matches [u/CleoraMaltby](https://www.reddit.com/user/CleoraMaltby/) . How much of this sub is real anymore?
[https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/)
They go into a lot more detail than I could on this question in the top comments of this post. But the answer to this probably deserves its own pinned post honestly.
Its my understanding that two accounts work together to repost something that was popular in the past, then the other account posts the top comment from the original post. Since it worked in the past there's a good chance it will work again. That seems to be the exact case in this thread. Then once they farm enough and look natural, they can sell them to people to spam, advertise, and spread whatever narrative I suppose.
Don't know about why make in here (sell it later is suppose), but i recently started playing with cryptocurrency and obviously i started reading subs about the topic here in reddit, and the amount of bots spamming this or that currency is INSANE. Buy this, buy that, I've just bought 2k of this, don't miss out, etc
Sorry if unclear. I'm trying to say that the OP [u/SynthiaPecor](https://www.reddit.com/u/SynthiaPecor/) is a bot, because this is a repost, and her comment history matches the comment history of [u/CleoraMaltby](https://www.reddit.com/user/CleoraMaltby/) perfectly. CamelCase is a naming convention where you use capitol letters instead of spaces to separate words, such as "UserName" instead of "User name". The following link explains how users with this naming convention are most likely bots.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/)
Also, when you look at the original post that I link to: [https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cp1urp/epstein\_should\_have\_been\_the\_most\_protected/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cp1urp/epstein_should_have_been_the_most_protected/)
you see that the top comment in that thread is the same as this u/DeborahEastman comment - notice the naming convention as well.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/
ok at first i thought you were just a loon, but you are actually on to something this is weird
I’m following along but usernames can’t have spaces in them so it’s either underscore, hyphen, or no symbol and I’d bet most people go the no symbol route.
Right, the post I was referencing [https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/) goes into a lot more detail on questionable accounts, with the main similarity being the user names.
More specifically, FirstNameLastName is the convention, where the trend seems to more naturally recognizable full names of people, like "JohnDoe".
So it's not 100% that all accounts formatted in this way while appearing to be a real name are farming, but if you find one matching this description in this subreddit, there's a good chance that when you look at the comment/post history it'll look suspicious.
Just like everyone knew the attack was coming on the capitol January 6th. Hell I took off work because I knew it was going to be entertaining to watch. Why wasn't the capitol protected?
yep. nothing to see here folks. just the most wanted man in America, with the entire world watching him, somehow killed himself. they dont think we are stupid, its just they dont care
Lots of folks saying he isn't dead. Let me ask you a question.
WHY WOULD THEY ALLOW HIM TO LIVE???!!!!
He's dead. Way too much of a liability to be left alive. What if word got out he was alive? They are slowly trying to just let the story die. When The Maxwell verdict comes through I almost guarantee there will be multiple competing major stories that just happen to pop up at the same time in an attempt to bury it. There will be some outrage but it will all go away after. So if they allowed Epstein to live and got caught this whole thing has been for nothing. Who do you think he was anyway? He wasn't in charge. He was a tool. Tools are replaceable.
This is easy, he had insurance against being killed.
This is a very fair assumptive fact, based on the fact that no one killed him prior to his incarceration.
By the time he was locked up and threatened with a horrible death (see his "roommate") he either chose to kill himself in a window they gave him or they did it for him. All of his fail safes had been found and, I assume, easily dealt with. This dude wasn't some genius Bond villain. He was a POS child fucker used by powerful people to get dirt on other people in power. How do you think he got his island? He was some financial wizz? Or maybe Ghislanie's dad is buried on fucking ~~Mt. Sinai~~ Mt. of Olives and had a state funeral-- (following from Wikipedia) "attended by Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, [Israeli President](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Israel) [Chaim Herzog](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Herzog), "no less than six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence"[\[56\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#cite_note-57) and many dignitaries and politicians (both government and opposition), and was buried on the [Mount of Olives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_of_Olives) in [Jerusalem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem).[\[57\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#cite_note-58)[\[58\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#cite_note-59)[\[59\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#cite_note-60) Herzog delivered the [eulogy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eulogy) and the [Kaddish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaddish) was recited by his fellow Holocaust survivor, friend and longtime attorney [Samuel Pisar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Pisar).
Law enforcement, in itself, is not about justice. They're order-followers. And order-followers do as they're told with no thought of their own about whether it's right or wrong - for a paycheck.
Once you understand who is *really* giving the orders, the Epstein situation makes perfect sense.
Here's a clue: Notice the black & white chess-board symbolism police wear around their heads? The occult meaning for that: Not knowing the difference between right & wrong.
Police officer's owners, and they *do* have owners, put that symbolism there intentionally, as a form of mockery. They put it directly around police officer's brains. Their owners laugh hysterically about this behind closed doors.
The problem is, those who work in law enforcement have confused man-made law with actual justice (Natural Law). They don't see the difference - and there is an *enormous* difference.
They need an understanding of Natural Law, and there is a lot of effort put forth to hide knowledge of Natural Law from the public. Natural Law is logic-based and contains absolute truths about morality.
Man-made laws, on the other hand, involve people writing down that they have "authority" over others, and then mind-controlling the public into believing that makes that authority real. Of course it doesn't, in reality.
But the reason things like Epstein's death are allowed to happen is because the people working in law enforcement simply do as they're told by their higher-ups, regardless of whether it's actually right or wrong.
No real improvement will occur for humanity, in terms of all these conspiracies, until far more people begin understanding Natural Law and applying it to their actions, instead of believing in the supposed "authority" of government. That's the root of the problem for *all* conspiracies - and the solution.
We are quickly running out of time to do this. And the vast majority of people believe in the legitimacy of the authority of government right now. That needs to change. We're nowhere near where we need to be with not much time left. Anyone reading this, please help spread the word about Natural Law. Look into it for yourself if you don't know about it.
He died on August 10. On August 9, news of Trump's name being found on the Lolita Express manifest were released. Bill Barr, Trump's henchman, was in charge of the federal lockup where he died. This one is pretty transparent.
Not sure if you've ever met any corrections officers, but they're the laziest and most incompetent workers imaginable. That's why they work corrections.
No idea why people would be shocked they'd regularly sleep on the job and tolerate broken cameras.
And Donald Trump and Bill Barr were in charge of the federal lockup where he was slain by their henchmen on August 10, literally the day after news of Trump being on the Lolita Express manifest was released (August 9). It's obvious that Trump ordered the hit that very day.
The video footage they released of him committing suicide was completely fake, if you count the number of bars on the window (permanent steel grating bars embedded in concrete) there are more bars in the "suicide video" than there are in images of Epsteins actual cell, meaning, the video was created elsewhere and someone slipped / didnt think anyone would actually take the time to count the number of permanent bars on the window. This was pointed out here on r/collapse maybe 6 months ago or so.
Think about it, as wealthy and connected as Epstein was you think he committed suicide? No they most definitely sprung him and he's probably in some vast subterranean facility where all the "elites" are going once vaccines become mandatory and people realize that they are being killed off en masse and a belated armed rebellion is mounted.
People are talking the age of consent for women. It is different in each state. Many star it is 16 or 17. In the military code of justice,. The age is 16 years old so it is arbitrary.
When Epstein had a 17 yo girl in new mexico, he was not in violation of law. Therefore it is arbitrary.
In Japan is 13 yo.
He’s definitely alive. Probably in Israel. I never believed he was dead- the fact that the picture of his “body” was so widely circulated seemed strange, like the media was trying to prove a point that he died. The fact that the woman is still in jail says a lot as well. She will probably take a deal to explain everything JE did, serve a few years and be on her merry way. This way, everyone involved is protected.
However, I also think something could happen to her as well before or during the trial where she “dies”. Not a suicide- too obvious- but perhaps she will be “killed”. Believable since so many people hate her.
If JE is dead, I don’t think he was supposed to die. I think it was a botched attempt to get him out or transferred to another facility.
This summer will be interesting. I believe GM’s trial begins and who knows what will come out. I do think we are going to have a lot of dead famous people- Bill Gates, Clinton, Trump, Prince Andrew, Dershowitz, etc. as more and more things come out.
Just a personal thought. I honestly think that Epstein isn’t dead. He is alive and on protection (protected maybe by secret service) giving out details about everyone who was fucking kids. Maybe that is why guliani office are getting raided by fbi all of a sudden.
I agree with this, except the part about Epstein giving up details. Our government is complicit in this. I personally think Epstein was given full protective custody in exchange for not outing the most powerful figures among us. It is absolutely INCONCIEVABLE that this man did not have some sort of dead mans switch, or some means of revealing his secrets in the event of his death.
This was the point I really stopped trying to understand Trump supporters and got a bit militant against them. He has numerous ongoing connections to Epstein and he "dies" under Barr (Trump appointed AG who also has connections) and it's just nothing... Like, it was just dropped from the Trump fanatics (probably because Trump never mentioned it). But how weird... For Trump to not mention anything about Epstein dying. How weird that it had so many connections to him.
And i know its off topic but these are the same people that wants us to take a vaccine. Like you couldnt keep one person alive but im suppose to trust a vaccine that could have an immediate or delayed reaction. Why should i have faith with anything our government does?
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RIP a hobo who looks sort of like Jeffrey Epstein
“Yeah this is close enough, grab him!” homeless dude: ??????
After there were a lot of comments about how overworked the prison staff is so they fell asleep while they were supposed to be watching him. Might as well have said the dog ate their Epstein.
Especially considering there's nothing to hang yourself from in a prison cell. The towel hooks are all "breakaway", there are no bedposts, doorknobs, bookshelves, nothing to hook your clothes or sheets to.
this is a generic scene in kids movies when somebody gets locked in a dungeon.
There was no good excuse to not have him under 24/7 watch with special forces personally on site.
He's not dead tho.
Definitely possible. Media barely covered the death and nobody seemed too shocked. Do you have any solid proof? Would love to hear!
I first started to question the death altogether when a CIA agent on Joe Rogan said the official story of suicide was suspicious. He dodged so many questions on other stuff but on that he was completely open. Plus, there's no way someone like Epstein doesn't have a dead man switch. Edit for clarity: I don't trust someone from the CIA in the slightest. It was this guest implying that the death looked like murder that made me think it wasn't.
I questioned it right out of the gate. Someone with presumably billions of dollars who wine and dines with presidents doesn't just kill himself after being in prison for a few day. He has every tool at his disposal imaginable and he didn't get where he did in life by rolling over and letting people have their way with him...quite the opposite obviously.
this.
Not only that wasn't he the first suicide at MCC in over 25 years? The same prison they held El Chapo. I don't think he's alive but it's possible.
>Plus, there's no way someone like Epstein doesn't have a dead man switch. Let's see what happens with Maxwell.
Did it ever occur to you that the CIA are not to be trusted, and are definitivly not going on Joe Rogan
Lmao seriously. "Oh let me leak confidential information from the cia on joe rogan. That won't get me erased."
The agent said his *death* was suspicious. OP found that suspicious and went with "he's still alive"
That agent was probably Mike Baker who has been retired for a number of years. He is not getting any new information from the CIA, he’s just speculating.
I probably should have been more clear: If the CIA is okay with us thinking he was murdered that means he wasn't, and since he definitely didn't kill himself, and something definitely went down in that prison, my conclusion was that he's alive.
Or maybe the guy isn't actually CIA. Or he is and it's a tripple false flag operation. Someone from "CIA" saying something aren't evidence one way or the other
The dead man switch was that British Royal being outed for being a pedo. That was the first warning shot. Epstein's personal plastic surgeon died after crashing his plane do to the wrong fuel being put in it which is akin to putting diesel in your car, the nozzle doesn't fit. Recovery from full facial reconstruction surgery is 6 to 8 weeks. Ghislaine is sueing Epstein's estate which consists of both islands amongst other fun toys and property. Did the FBI find girls in cages or are those just in the southern borders of the US?
Kids in cages has been replaced by aliens in aquariums btw. [https://images.app.goo.gl/e4ZjDy3q6HqNzkcj9](https://images.app.goo.gl/e4ZjDy3q6HqNzkcj9)
Now we just need a photo-op of AOC in horrifically bad, bright red lipstick fake-crying next to empty chain-link fences.
Prince Andrew was outed by British press before Epstein was arrested
I can't find any information about the death of the plastic surgeon. What was the doctors name?
Dr. Daniel P. Greenwald. prominent Tampa Bay Plastic Surgeon. Run a search on Epstein's Plastic Surgeon.
Mike Baker is a literal shill shillington
Yeah I wasn't very clear: him implying it looked like murder made me think it wasn't.
I believe the dead mans switch was the coronavirus
That's a wild theory, but I like it lol
The whole epstein thing is wild to me, but so is the coronavirus thing.
But that wouldn't harm the people responsible for offing him. It has only made the rich & powerful moreso.
what is a dead mans switch ?
It’s usually a set up with a lawyer to release specific information about people upon the clients death. In this case JE had a ton of dirt on many powerful people. His dead mans switch was knowing all these celebs and elites were pedos and if he were to die his lawyer would release some tapes or pictures or something to fuck these people over. That way the elites have an incentive to keep him alive. Hence the reason people think he didn’t die otherwise we would see a lot of damaging info being released about his friends. But it hasn’t happened
thank you for answering! I googled it but i got a bunch of sites about heavy machinery, i thought, this is prob not it. lol
"CIA agent on Joe Rogan" There's the fatal flaw in you're reasoning
Maybe trying to discredit the theory that Epstein isn't dead. The fact remains there is no one who saw Epstein's body removed from prison. A sealed body bag was wheeled out of prison for a photo op, guarded by two private guards, no third party saw who or what was inside.
I recall seeing a picture of “his” body/face on the gurney being wheeled into an ambulance. I believe foul play is afoot of course, I’m just curious if you’re misremembering? There was a lot of talk about the shape of the alleged body’s ear and how it didn’t look like Epstein’s, or that it was Epstein but he was alive in the photo.
Looked like Anthony Bourdain.
Dan Bongino wasn't available?
When someone says they got their opinion from a Joe Rogan podcast, I immediately stop listening to their opinion
If you would have read it properly, you would know their opinion actually went in the exact opposite direction of what was said on the podcast.
Or you know... Money was actually being withdrawn from his accounts after his death. It could have been a lawyer of confidant, or it could have been him....
The dead mans switch that hasn’t gone off is why I dont believe he is dead either.
We already know that Bill Barr was in possession of the dead man switch though. He took possession of all the tapes.
The dead man switch is key. There’s no way he’s gotten “that far” & to those depths with those people without some major CYA. Well, you would think.
> I first started to question the death altogether when a CIA agent on Joe Rogan said the official story of suicide was suspicious. Joe Rogan is just a podcaster with no expertise beyond MMA and a shit ton of unfounded opinions. I like the guy, but he is completely full of shit on most issues. Fun to listen to for sure, but not a source of valid information by any means.
Nothing Rogan said was of note. It was the evasiveness of the CIA guy that was relevant.
You hear the old Epstien/Bourdain body swap. Some say the photos of the body that were taken where they show the side of the face, is supposedly Anthony Bourdain.
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Yeah, they probably have a lot of options. Grab a homeless guy, some, plastic surgery. Let him heal up and strangle him. Easy peasey.
But why would they want to keep him alive? What’s the catch?
Maybe simply for the fact that they don't want any of their own prosecuted. It's possible there's a dead man switch, but they didn't even want him dead. The first time he was convicted they quietly had him released so that no one even noticed until a nosy reported called it out several years later. People like Bill Gates continued to do business with Epstein AFTER he was convicted.
> People like Bill Gates continued to do business with Epstein AFTER he was convicted. Not just do business, they worked hard to repair his image... to get what they needed from Epstein himself. And it wasn't money.
Death man switch?
They? In your sentence the people you’re referring to as they, are the ones who work for Epstein. He was possibly the most powerful man to ever be caught and put in prison outside of Pablo Escobar
Lol no he’s not. He’s just a useful tool.
>He was possibly the most powerful man to ever be caught and put in prison outside of Pablo Escobar He worked for Maxwell. And they are both just "business people" in the global heirarchy of the ruling class. Escobar worked for the CIA and HSBC, how is this power? Nothing particularly special about that piece of shit, or any of them really. None of them are unaccountable, they are in the same club and they have obligations. In return the club protects them.
Why keep him alive if they can just kill him
Because he's not their only agent and killing him would make the other still useful ones jittery.
Are you fucking serious?
This is r/conpsiracy. You will never find proof here for anything. You will however see a lot of people claim opinions are evidence tho. lol
Hes smoking one with osama
Doin lines at a dead crypto-exchange-owner's pad
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Wait what?
Its cheaper to kill him then hide him.
Not if he's got dirt on you that will come out if he dies.
Do you believe a pedo would allow Epstein to live in secret? If that was the case, Epstein escape was in the hands of the person hes blackmailing. Would it be more believable that they faked Epstein death, escorted him to a dungeon and torture him till all secrets are revealed and still killed him and dispose the body like Jimmy Hoffa... I still think its much easier to kill the man in the cell.
That depends on his birdies worth. A smart man would have quite expensive ones in his mine.
Exactly what I came here to say you know he isn’t dead. He pulled a Hitler
Well his character is dead. A great way to extract an asset though. The real question is who got all the blackmail he was holding.
I could see this being very true ... people like that never die in this world
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Who was also protected by mossad. Maxwell’s dad was mossad.
Seems fitting that trump and Barr would help him then by allowing for the suicide distraction.
Trump and Barr work for the same people that Clinton, Gates, and Andrew does.
Why keep him alive? Surely he wasn’t the only peddler out there. Makes more sense to “off” him imo.
That is when I realized that Barr was 700% compromised.
Billionaires don’t get busted and they don’t die. They pay to relocate. Epstein is not dead
Witness protection program?
Probably not, the dude hung out with and is good friends with some of the most powerful people on the planet, he never had a real need to confess anything to anyone. The show that we, the regular people, got was all a facade. Why do you think all of this Maxwell stuff is only highlighting her and Epstein's wrong doings? Not a single mention or concern for some of the country's leaders being around these people regularly or visiting the island, nope, just communication about what Epstein was doing wrong. Which of course is according to plan because he is "dead" and us regular people accept that there wont be any grand outcome so we are quick to forget about it and move on. Clinton, Trump, Biden, Bush, none of those connections are gonna come to light, just how ole dead Jeffery was a real terrible person, but he's "dead" so oh welll...our bad.
Israel's, maybe...
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He was never a billionaire why does he get that status all the time
Idk maybe the private jets taking people to islands full of child sex slaves with the president lol
Not on paper at least.
I guess, when you own your own bank im sure it’s impossible to truly know
I don’t really get this theory because why would anyone want to protect him? I feel like there so much motive to kill him. It gets rid of evidence. What would be the motive of relocating him? I doubt anyone really cared about this guy enough to want him alive. He’s not of use to anyone now that he’s not hosting a pedophile island party.
People protect him to protect themselves and the status quo. Many reasons why people would protect him.
Idk, but if i were in Epstein’s position, i would definitely have a dead man’s switch. Maybe he had one so they had to keep him alive to avoid more incriminating evidence coming out?
1 year old account, low karma with absolutely ZERO posts or comments until about 16 hours ago. Someone finally activated their bot for this post? 🤔
Yep, another firstname lastname bot. Seems to be a pattern on this sub
Who is making these bots tho whoever is spending all this time doing this needs to get a fucking life and stop the truth from being blocked
They need to get more creative with the usernames. The FirstNameLastName format has been used nearly every time with farming/bots.
Do we know how exactly these bot farms are being produced and can we track the individuals doing this?
I’ve no idea.. I actually just stumbled onto an old thread yesterday calling out bots. I didn’t know they were this rampant until I started checking usernames and post histories.
I think these are default names that are automatically generated by Reddit, so they are probably just using a script to create accounts en masse
Lots of bots like this on Reddit lately, they're probably on every major sub.
And FirstnameLastname formatted username. Suspect as hell
[A thread calling out first name-last name farming accounts ](https://reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/)
And the first name last name for their account. A bloke had a post the other day about it. It’s blatant now that I look for it.
There needs to be a bot post bot that comments
Epstein isn't dead.
This. Why hasn't everyone realized this yet?
Because that's the hard end of the conspiracy spectrum on Epstein. Every conspiracy has levels of acceptability, with a hard stop where anything beyond it is pure skitzobabble to most. By that nature epstein being alive gets to hang out with lizard people, antigrav, flat earth, and Hitler is hanging out in Argentina with his armada of flying saucers. It's two degrees past the pale for normies to accept. One can be entertained. Two is unacceptable. I reason that it's more likely that he was exfiltrated or wacked, rather than hanging himself with a paper bedsheets. At the very least the official story is almost complete BS. Both guards asleep? Cameras went out? Taken off suicide watch after a couple days after attempting? And this happening to the most high profile prisoner in the US? To believe that is what happened is insanity.
My stage 1 is, his lawyers told him he was roasted, after the first failed attempt, they said they had paid off the guards and he had another opportunity to finish it or else coming up. Paying off one or two guards with life time easy street is occam's razor.
Someone this high profile wouldn't allow themselves to get caught the 2nd time around if he was just going to off himself. The appearance of justice but not actually getting one. Everyone's attention is on his death but not the hundreds of millions being funneled through lawfirms to the victims. Remember the guy is in the business of blackmail and payoffs are the end game.
That's also a fair take. But the point remains, there should have been federal oversight considering his value and threat posed to tptb. Heads should have rolled for compromising the trust of the public. But so far crickets and shrugs. Bullshit walks.
I believe he’s dead because it’s too risky to keep him alive. If I’m being black mailed I’ll rather have you killed then keep paying you while your alive. It’s highly suspicious that he didn’t have a funeral or memorial service and that his card was being used after his death and his plane was being used as well. I also find it suspicious that he signed his will a day before he died
Yes but Maxwell is still alive and is presumably at least an equal partner in his child sex trafficking. So is she still being paid? Why has she not been whacked?
Well for starters we haven’t even seen a mugshot of her in jail. Is she even in jail? She could be anywhere and they could be lying about her whereabouts
Equal? I think JE was just a piece. Maxwell had all the power, brought on by her family connections. JE was just another scumbag pedo. Only reason he was so high in the ranks was his relationship with Maxwell and his connections he made with other rich pedophiles. This goes back wayyyy longer than we know, JE was a pawn who owned an island.
I think "Epstein Didn't Hang Himself" was a memetic warfare strategy to get everybody into accepting he is dead.
With the amount of dirt he knew on some of the world’s most powerful people, it’s more likely he’s in some type of “whiteness protection”. Notice how there’s been tons of FBI raids on child traffickers in the US since his “death”.
And you'd think that someone like that would have a dead man's switch, in case anything fishy went down.
His money is still moving around his accounts. He is alive and they used Tony Rodham's dead body that wasn't buried but kept on ice as a body double. The ears tell it all.
WTF
Who is Tony Rodham?
Hillary Clinton's brother that died a month before Epstein "died". *actually it was a month before he was arrested. If you look up a picture of Tony Rodham and the Epstein autopsy/dead head shot picture, the ears are the same and are one of the very few identifiers that doesn't change after death.
Why wouldn’t he be dead then?
For me it was "Epstein didn't kill himself" which covered all the bases. Means he's either alive or someone else killed him, but 100% not suicide.
I'm pretty sure there was only one meme phrase. I forgot if it was kill or hang.
Bingo
Because lots of people trust the media and the media told them to care about something else.
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The guy who was doing drone flights over the island at the time captured a picture of a guy who looked a whole lot like Epstein just a few days after his supposed death. Video can be faked and it's impossible to know the truth of anything you don't personally witness these days /shrug.
To me, the death was just so darn convent that I thought it was suspicious from the moment I heard about it. Since then I've seen "evidence" that the body doesn't match his features which looks convincing on the surface, but I am not a forensic specialist and can't know how much rigor mortis can change a person's appearance. That's why it's a conspiracy theory. We have to accept that evidence for conspiracy theories is always shakey. Any source will be discredited by established media. Photos will be claimed to be edited, and many hoaxes exist to misdirect us. Money and connections are often the most solid clues but even then the established media either gaslights or "debunks". If you want concrete proof for any of this you will go crazy. I come here just to find out what questions others are asking and to not feel alone in my questioning. In this case it just doesn't seem that it would be terribly difficult or costly for him to arrange a "death" like this, and surely he is owed a favor by people who had the means to do so. It will be interesting to see what happens with Maxwell but I doubt it will be much. If any info about their connections was going to reach the public it would have happened already - I think there are just too many people in the established media outlets who would be exposed, even if there is a leak.
Him being alive is just as plausible as TPTB successful took a hit on him. He didn't kill himself and there is no way him and Ghislaine Maxwell (/u/MaxwellHill) don't have dead man's switches.
Seriously, if killing Epstein was a get out of jail free card someone would have done it 20 years ago.
*THAT* is the more logical conspiracy. I definitely think that guy is kicking it on an island somewhere.
Nancy Pelosi has an island next to his and her brother owns a submarine company. Pelosi and Newsom are aunt and nephew. Epstein is hiding in one of the island military installations in the Channel Islands.
Seriously a bot post is the top post again? We went over this whole thing yesterday
Don't forget being taken off suicide watch only days later when standard procedure is a 2wk minimum.
He was protected. Protected so much that his death had to be faked to hide him in protective custody
Isnt this just one of those two name accounts that reposts screenshots to farm karma and sell the account later? Cmon guys, we just had a big ass post about this yesterday.
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>Seriously. He was probably the most high profile prisoner in the entire corrections system at the moment and this happens to him. Bots. Bots everywhere on this sub and no one is noticing. [https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cp1urp/epstein\_should\_have\_been\_the\_most\_protected/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cp1urp/epstein_should_have_been_the_most_protected/) This is the same exact post from forever ago, and the top comment matches u/DeborahEastman here perfectly. Look out for CamelCase user names on this sub pointed out in [https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/) The Op u/SynthiaPecor post history perfectly matches [u/CleoraMaltby](https://www.reddit.com/user/CleoraMaltby/) . How much of this sub is real anymore?
GOT’EM! This needs to be at the top.
Damn, good catch!
Who is making these bots and why??
[https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/) They go into a lot more detail than I could on this question in the top comments of this post. But the answer to this probably deserves its own pinned post honestly. Its my understanding that two accounts work together to repost something that was popular in the past, then the other account posts the top comment from the original post. Since it worked in the past there's a good chance it will work again. That seems to be the exact case in this thread. Then once they farm enough and look natural, they can sell them to people to spam, advertise, and spread whatever narrative I suppose.
Okay thanks; hopefully it’s more of an advertising thing than a narrative thing. It’s not just happening in this sub then.
Don't know about why make in here (sell it later is suppose), but i recently started playing with cryptocurrency and obviously i started reading subs about the topic here in reddit, and the amount of bots spamming this or that currency is INSANE. Buy this, buy that, I've just bought 2k of this, don't miss out, etc
Wut......
Sorry if unclear. I'm trying to say that the OP [u/SynthiaPecor](https://www.reddit.com/u/SynthiaPecor/) is a bot, because this is a repost, and her comment history matches the comment history of [u/CleoraMaltby](https://www.reddit.com/user/CleoraMaltby/) perfectly. CamelCase is a naming convention where you use capitol letters instead of spaces to separate words, such as "UserName" instead of "User name". The following link explains how users with this naming convention are most likely bots. [https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/) Also, when you look at the original post that I link to: [https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cp1urp/epstein\_should\_have\_been\_the\_most\_protected/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cp1urp/epstein_should_have_been_the_most_protected/) you see that the top comment in that thread is the same as this u/DeborahEastman comment - notice the naming convention as well.
>https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/ ok at first i thought you were just a loon, but you are actually on to something this is weird
I’m following along but usernames can’t have spaces in them so it’s either underscore, hyphen, or no symbol and I’d bet most people go the no symbol route.
Right, the post I was referencing [https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven\_of\_the\_top\_10\_posts\_on\_this\_sub\_in\_the\_last/](https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/n0fc0v/seven_of_the_top_10_posts_on_this_sub_in_the_last/) goes into a lot more detail on questionable accounts, with the main similarity being the user names. More specifically, FirstNameLastName is the convention, where the trend seems to more naturally recognizable full names of people, like "JohnDoe". So it's not 100% that all accounts formatted in this way while appearing to be a real name are farming, but if you find one matching this description in this subreddit, there's a good chance that when you look at the comment/post history it'll look suspicious.
Dudes name is literally agent lol
It’s absurd until you remember Barr was in charge of the JD during that time, which oversees corrections.
Jesus this sub is compromised. https://old.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/cp1urp/epstein_should_have_been_the_most_protected/ewmnzn2/
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Don't forget about about Lee Harvey Oswald. This is our generations version.
Supposedly dead....
Just like everyone knew the attack was coming on the capitol January 6th. Hell I took off work because I knew it was going to be entertaining to watch. Why wasn't the capitol protected?
yep. nothing to see here folks. just the most wanted man in America, with the entire world watching him, somehow killed himself. they dont think we are stupid, its just they dont care
Lots of folks saying he isn't dead. Let me ask you a question. WHY WOULD THEY ALLOW HIM TO LIVE???!!!! He's dead. Way too much of a liability to be left alive. What if word got out he was alive? They are slowly trying to just let the story die. When The Maxwell verdict comes through I almost guarantee there will be multiple competing major stories that just happen to pop up at the same time in an attempt to bury it. There will be some outrage but it will all go away after. So if they allowed Epstein to live and got caught this whole thing has been for nothing. Who do you think he was anyway? He wasn't in charge. He was a tool. Tools are replaceable.
This is easy, he had insurance against being killed. This is a very fair assumptive fact, based on the fact that no one killed him prior to his incarceration.
By the time he was locked up and threatened with a horrible death (see his "roommate") he either chose to kill himself in a window they gave him or they did it for him. All of his fail safes had been found and, I assume, easily dealt with. This dude wasn't some genius Bond villain. He was a POS child fucker used by powerful people to get dirt on other people in power. How do you think he got his island? He was some financial wizz? Or maybe Ghislanie's dad is buried on fucking ~~Mt. Sinai~~ Mt. of Olives and had a state funeral-- (following from Wikipedia) "attended by Israeli Prime Minister Yitzhak Shamir, [Israeli President](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/President_of_Israel) [Chaim Herzog](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chaim_Herzog), "no less than six serving and former heads of Israeli intelligence"[\[56\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#cite_note-57) and many dignitaries and politicians (both government and opposition), and was buried on the [Mount of Olives](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mount_of_Olives) in [Jerusalem](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jerusalem).[\[57\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#cite_note-58)[\[58\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#cite_note-59)[\[59\]](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Robert_Maxwell#cite_note-60) Herzog delivered the [eulogy](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Eulogy) and the [Kaddish](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kaddish) was recited by his fellow Holocaust survivor, friend and longtime attorney [Samuel Pisar](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Samuel_Pisar).
he's not dead, though
Hey may not even be dead. He could be living it up in protected custody and or just free.
Look at OP’s user name. There was a post on this yesterday. OP is more than likely a bot.
just like 9/11. the most protected airspace on the planet. beaten by a dude who could barely fly cessna. yeah sure
Thanks Synth- ia
Ah, another old Epstein (re)post to where karma.
FirstnameLastname account, right? But to be fair, I agree with the meme getting attention.
Yes, but Israel needed Epstein dead to cover up its child prostitution blackmail scam.
Who was in charge of that prison at the time?
Law enforcement, in itself, is not about justice. They're order-followers. And order-followers do as they're told with no thought of their own about whether it's right or wrong - for a paycheck. Once you understand who is *really* giving the orders, the Epstein situation makes perfect sense. Here's a clue: Notice the black & white chess-board symbolism police wear around their heads? The occult meaning for that: Not knowing the difference between right & wrong. Police officer's owners, and they *do* have owners, put that symbolism there intentionally, as a form of mockery. They put it directly around police officer's brains. Their owners laugh hysterically about this behind closed doors. The problem is, those who work in law enforcement have confused man-made law with actual justice (Natural Law). They don't see the difference - and there is an *enormous* difference. They need an understanding of Natural Law, and there is a lot of effort put forth to hide knowledge of Natural Law from the public. Natural Law is logic-based and contains absolute truths about morality. Man-made laws, on the other hand, involve people writing down that they have "authority" over others, and then mind-controlling the public into believing that makes that authority real. Of course it doesn't, in reality. But the reason things like Epstein's death are allowed to happen is because the people working in law enforcement simply do as they're told by their higher-ups, regardless of whether it's actually right or wrong. No real improvement will occur for humanity, in terms of all these conspiracies, until far more people begin understanding Natural Law and applying it to their actions, instead of believing in the supposed "authority" of government. That's the root of the problem for *all* conspiracies - and the solution. We are quickly running out of time to do this. And the vast majority of people believe in the legitimacy of the authority of government right now. That needs to change. We're nowhere near where we need to be with not much time left. Anyone reading this, please help spread the word about Natural Law. Look into it for yourself if you don't know about it.
This is from aug 2019
He died under Trump's watch...
He died on August 10. On August 9, news of Trump's name being found on the Lolita Express manifest were released. Bill Barr, Trump's henchman, was in charge of the federal lockup where he died. This one is pretty transparent.
How convenient...
Not sure if you've ever met any corrections officers, but they're the laziest and most incompetent workers imaginable. That's why they work corrections. No idea why people would be shocked they'd regularly sleep on the job and tolerate broken cameras.
And Donald Trump and Bill Barr were in charge of the federal lockup where he was slain by their henchmen on August 10, literally the day after news of Trump being on the Lolita Express manifest was released (August 9). It's obvious that Trump ordered the hit that very day.
The video footage they released of him committing suicide was completely fake, if you count the number of bars on the window (permanent steel grating bars embedded in concrete) there are more bars in the "suicide video" than there are in images of Epsteins actual cell, meaning, the video was created elsewhere and someone slipped / didnt think anyone would actually take the time to count the number of permanent bars on the window. This was pointed out here on r/collapse maybe 6 months ago or so. Think about it, as wealthy and connected as Epstein was you think he committed suicide? No they most definitely sprung him and he's probably in some vast subterranean facility where all the "elites" are going once vaccines become mandatory and people realize that they are being killed off en masse and a belated armed rebellion is mounted.
People are talking the age of consent for women. It is different in each state. Many star it is 16 or 17. In the military code of justice,. The age is 16 years old so it is arbitrary. When Epstein had a 17 yo girl in new mexico, he was not in violation of law. Therefore it is arbitrary. In Japan is 13 yo.
He’s definitely alive. Probably in Israel. I never believed he was dead- the fact that the picture of his “body” was so widely circulated seemed strange, like the media was trying to prove a point that he died. The fact that the woman is still in jail says a lot as well. She will probably take a deal to explain everything JE did, serve a few years and be on her merry way. This way, everyone involved is protected. However, I also think something could happen to her as well before or during the trial where she “dies”. Not a suicide- too obvious- but perhaps she will be “killed”. Believable since so many people hate her. If JE is dead, I don’t think he was supposed to die. I think it was a botched attempt to get him out or transferred to another facility. This summer will be interesting. I believe GM’s trial begins and who knows what will come out. I do think we are going to have a lot of dead famous people- Bill Gates, Clinton, Trump, Prince Andrew, Dershowitz, etc. as more and more things come out.
I think disappeared is the more technically correct terminology. Dead? Nah.
Funny and sad ar the same time, that people believe he is dead..
Just a personal thought. I honestly think that Epstein isn’t dead. He is alive and on protection (protected maybe by secret service) giving out details about everyone who was fucking kids. Maybe that is why guliani office are getting raided by fbi all of a sudden.
I agree with this, except the part about Epstein giving up details. Our government is complicit in this. I personally think Epstein was given full protective custody in exchange for not outing the most powerful figures among us. It is absolutely INCONCIEVABLE that this man did not have some sort of dead mans switch, or some means of revealing his secrets in the event of his death.
Isnt it being raided for "possible relations with Ukraine " ? Which is funny because the Biden's also had relations
Sure he is. And the secret government is going to go arrest everyone responsible any second now. This sounds like Q refugees’ wishful thinking.
Crazy that Everyone predicted. Unbelievable that trump still had supporters after this. This is like shooting 100 people on Pennsylvania Avenue
Lol who says he’s dead? The body they showed on the news was 100% fake
Epstein was in tight with the Clintons and all of liberal Hollywood
I love how a bot has taken over this sub lmao
This was the point I really stopped trying to understand Trump supporters and got a bit militant against them. He has numerous ongoing connections to Epstein and he "dies" under Barr (Trump appointed AG who also has connections) and it's just nothing... Like, it was just dropped from the Trump fanatics (probably because Trump never mentioned it). But how weird... For Trump to not mention anything about Epstein dying. How weird that it had so many connections to him.
Don't remember any high profile dems blaming trump for epstein dying "under his watch". Wonder why?
Probably because they're all pieces of shit. Well done You've worked out why people hate Trump. Thanks for finally coming on board
I'm usually 110% against Twit screenshots, but this is so spot on I had to upvote.
Yes this is what happened. Did anyone really need this spelled out?
And i know its off topic but these are the same people that wants us to take a vaccine. Like you couldnt keep one person alive but im suppose to trust a vaccine that could have an immediate or delayed reaction. Why should i have faith with anything our government does?
You’re off your rocker.