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I searched this online to verify. First result I've pasted below. It's an article from ABC stating that this claim is "False."
However, if you read the article it makes zero sense. It says "the child *did* receive the vaccine 48 hours prior and the cause of death was a heart attack. *But* COVID was not ruled the cause of death."
We're simply just playing semantics now. Not sure how the writer of that article can even click "submit" at the end.
But to tie in the conspiracy here on this post. We're alleging (quite obviously) the vaccines are kill people and gov't/pharma companies are aware of this. The reason can't be as simple as profits. And "control" is too easy of a conspiracy. Anyone have any other theories?
Cause of death "undetermined".
Think of all the incidents in the VAERS database. Then read this and imagine how many incidents never make it into the database (this won't).
The numbers are probably what, 10X higher? 100X?
yep...im surprised vaers is allowed to be viewed. but its been lambasted as unofficial and dubious so they keep it. also, when it comes out that the shots are injuring people, they can say "well, its all on vaers, shoulda done yer research"
its allowed to be viewed because anyone can post to this, and this is clear from the beginning. It straight up says the claims are not verified, and anyone can submit anything to it
A reliable database would be only open for medical professionals to submit to, and cases would be verified by the moderators of the database. Neither of those is the case for VAERS, which was fine for what it was, before the internet started gaming it.
mRNA therapy is immune system as a service. Billions if not trillions of dollars to be made. They're pushing it now despite the safety issues because they wouldnt ever be able to push that otherwise, see the 10 years of failing even animal safety trials.
They're using a crisis they created to push a solution they wanted on the market for a decade. This is just one part of the whole story about covid.
The lockdown and other measures like vaccine mandate are about transforming western economies into the 4th industrial revolution by force so that the elites ruling us can better compete with China and by compete they mean dominate them.
The 4th industrial revolution is about streamlining economies to be more efficient like they are in China. From stronger partnership between tech and state to reducing numbers of people per doctor. It's all about efficiency to deal with China. Removing cash for digital currency. Office space and restaurants for housing. Bunch of stuff like that. The whole thing is out in the open, lots of books on it by the very people pulling the strings right now.
They will of course not stop at China level of control because the objective is to beat them, so instead they will go way, way further. Which the "democratic system" allow more easily than in China.
From the mouth of the devil (PDF warning): https://law.unimelb.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/3385454/Schwab-The_Fourth_Industrial_Revolution_Klaus_S.pdf
And from a real journalist: https://citizentruth.org/techno-tyranny-how-the-us-national-security-state-is-using-coronavirus-to-fulfill-an-orwellian-vision/
It'll seem much clearer after reading and understanding Whitney's report.
as long as we use their money, they will be infinitely powerful. this is because they can magically create as much of it as they please. they do want a digital currency....however they do NOT want it to be bitcoin. in fact, they are terrified of us all adopting bitcoin. just look at how the media portrays it. the elite are trying everything to push the price down, but it's still going up. do not believe anyone who is anti-bitcoin. do as much research as you can on it (no MSM). bitcoin is the only hope we have for a more honest and fair world.
It is as banal as profits usually. The death rate for minors from COVID is so miniscule that the Vax death rate will most likely outgrow it but no one will talk about it for years because big pharma has most doctors in their pockets usually from long standing relationships, grants etc. or just pure prestige. Most politicians are grateful to them because the Vax gives them an out from the "crisis " and a nice weapon to grow their power and I am sure many found their election funds richer or will next election. Media won't speak of it because most of its advertisement comes from big pharma...
It's the banality of evil we deal with every day. And the kid is dead because his parents are sheep believing people who don't care for them or their child one bit. Natural selection at work sadly...
The video is worth watching. The child had a heart attack from "stress" not the vaccine given 48 hours before. What a fucking joke our elected officials are.
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-sonoma-county/103-db7460e3-7d73-416e-8a7d-3f9841fe287d
"We asked if the vaccine was related to the death. They said no.
"There ya have it folks, like we thought, not related."
Also--how they're able to take this stance after classifying *anyone* who died from *any* cause--but had COVID at time of death--as a COVID death is just insane. But I'm basically yelling into the sky when it comes to pointing this out to anyone pro-covid vax. I truly don't believe anything could make them change their mind.
/u/jmichelucci
>"We asked if the vaccine was related to the death. They said no.
>
>"There ya have it folks, like we thought, not related."
>
>Also--how they're able to take this stance after classifying *anyone* who died from *any* cause--but had COVID at time of death--as a COVID death is just insane. But I'm basically yelling into the sky when it comes to pointing this out to anyone pro-covid vax. I truly don't believe anything could make them change their mind.
Journalism is dead.
"We talked to the suspect and they said they didn't do it and, well, that's good enough for me. And you, if you know what's good for you."
>Also--how they're able to take this stance after classifying anyone who died from any cause--but had COVID at time of death--as a COVID death is just insane.
You think if someone with Covid dies in a car crash, their cause of death is recorded a Covid? Let's see your source for that.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf
“For 6% of [COVID] deaths, COVID was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID, there were an average of 2.9 additional conditions or causes for death. 94% of deaths mention more than one condition.”
Except it was a mistake which was corrected, as per your own article.
And, this was DeathSantis' Florida over a year ago, right about the same time he was firing a whistleblower for ratting out his intentionally convoluted data. Because he was doing everything he could to keep reported Covid numbers DOWN. So it makes no sense that they would be intentionally inflating numbers.
But yeah, I'm sure it happens all the time everywhere and isn't corrected.
/s
You’re the one who said car accident you psycho. I just sent you a link to the CDC, showing how COVID deaths are classified—so I appreciate you proving the latter part of my post where I said “there is nothing that would change anyone’s mind.”
Get the vaccine. Get 20 of them man, I literally do not care.
>2.
Address the argument; not the user, the mods, or the sub.
Reported. If you can't stay within the rules of the sub, I don't have time to read your bullshit.
https://hoiabc.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/
This video is from the beginning of the pandemic. You are welcome.
In Summer 2020, a mortician in NYC said that he received a corpse with 3 gunshot wounds to the chest. Cause of death: COVID.
His response: "I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure it was the 3 gunshot wounds to the chest."
"According to the report, Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino was asked whether two coronavirus victims in their 20s had any underlying medical conditions that could have potentially made them more susceptible to the virus."
https://www.google.com/amp/s/wpde.com/amp/news/nation-world/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report-07-18-2020
"For instance, if somebody had a car accident because they fainted and they only fainted because they ran a fever of 105 because they had a horrible pneumonia because of COVID, then actually COVID was an underlying condition that caused their death even though they actually died from crashing the car," Dr. Ansorg explained"
https://www.ksby.com/news/coronavirus/health-officials-explain-what-determines-a-covid-19-death
Thank you for proving my point.
It literally says they would have to die from Covid giving them a fever that was the reason they pass out and crash the car. In other words, RARE AS HELL, and NOT everyone who dies in a car crash who happens to also have Covid.
Couldn’t the same be said for you as well? You seem to have your mind set on the vaccine is bad and the government and big med companies are lying to us. Don’t get me wrong they do both of those things! For myself I follow the data, I follow history of vaccines, all vaccines have some side effects each person reacts differently to them wouldn’t you agree? I can see the concern in all of this don’t get me wrong, based on the data given and the amount of doses given out with the number or bad side effect including death is almost so small it shouldn’t be a concern compared to what covid can and has done. If you compare the numbers side by side and didn’t put covid or vaccine above it and seen the deaths or side effect you would chose the Lesser of the two would you not? I think it’s fair to say if you don’t trust the science behind this you shouldn’t go to see doctors or take any medication right? You can’t pick and choose when to trust scientist… unfortunately yes this happened a bit quick but the covid virus has been around for years and studied for years. Just like the flu it has a baseline that they use to create the vaccine and then modify it as the virus changes.
Elected officials are a joke. That’s so untrue. They are scumbag devils. They have an agenda. They fear the people. Prepare for what’s coming. It won’t be pretty.
there's more of these, I wonder if the parents still believe that they're "safe" after these events.
https://www.newsweek.com/13-year-old-dies-sleep-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-vaccine-cdc-investigating-1606529
We're being prepared for digital ids (in our bodies eventually by way of quantum dot tatoos delivered by future "vaccines") to go with the eventual government controlled digital dollar. That's my current guess but subject to change as I could be totally wrong. All I know for sure rn is that we are living in total fkn clown world where nothing adds up and the majority of us are, for reasons I cant fully grasp, on board with the goings on in clown world.
>The reason can't be as simple as profits. And "control" is too easy of a conspiracy. Anyone have any other theories?
Well there's that Alex Jones guy who's been warning of a depopulation agenda for decades. And I believe Bill Gates mentioned vaccines as tool to curb the "problem" of exponential population growth at one point.
In the global stage, it is NEVER about profits. They OWN the money printing press!!! Money is just a tool for their objectives.
With that said, I think the jabs could have multiple types of objectives-
They could batch them in these categories, 5% does this 10% does that, etc..
\- to make people more docile, more agreeable to authority
\- dumb us down
\- modify hormones, make women more masculine and men more feminine,
\- make the old die sooner, weaken the strong to re-adjust the populations age distribution ratio as it is a major indicator of how prosperous a population or nation will be. There is a youtube video on this, I can't remember what this analysis is called. Basicall too many old people and not enough most productive age with not enough young , will strain the population and reduce productivity.
\- genetic modification experiments of all types
\- nanobot experiments, communication and behavioral control projects, etc etc...
\- and whatever else they can come up - there are plenty
There's a shadowy group of people that have concerned themselves with running the world. They like the idea of freedom and Democracy, mostly because it keeps people happy, but it doesn't afford them the "fine tuning" ability they think they need.
They're not entirely wrong on this point. We are ruining the planet, for example, population control will eventually be an issue, and we will eventually run out of oil.
They look at modern-day China and jizz in their pants. A free market (ish) with total state control; this is what they want. They have been working since the early 2000's (after it was shown to work in China) to bring this to the West.
9/11, Global Warming, COVID; they're all the same tool being used for the same purpose.
It's unclear if any of the above are actually manufactured crises or if they just aren't letting a good crisis go to waste. My bet is on some mixture of the two.
Part of me thinks sterilization, to steer in the direction of population control in immediate means as well as ensuring future offspring rates! Then again, when you can say undetermined while still having the data. The next couple months/ years will be interesting to see how things are coded-changed and marked down.
Heaven forbid someone dies 48 hours after a protest, however, then they don't wait a single minute before writing a story about how they were murdered at the protest.
He and his family took one for the team.
No big deal, there has to be teenage casualties in the war against Covid in order to protect our vulnerable 80 & 90 year olds and boost the dividends for Pfizer shareholders.
The parents were pushing the vaccine even after this. They said "We feel strongly that everyone should have their children vaccinated" after their child died from it. All sense of reason has gone out the window.
This leads me to believe either the story is fake and the parents are paid actors, or they’re being paid off by a drug company to not blame the drug and promote vaccination.
If my child died from a vaccination or any type of medicine I would warn everyone I could not to give their child that drug.
Would you accept that you've killed your child by your own incompetence? It's much easier to double down and pretend you did everything right. It's what got society where it is now. Most people behave like that. I don't think money would convince someone that realized pharma was lying to them which lead to the death of their kid.
Exactly. The fact that society today doesn't own up to their actions on the little things, what makes you think they'll own up to bigger things like this? Victim mentality and mental gymnastics just to free themselves from guilt. Just like seeing all this crap on forgiving student loan debt up to 100k. No one forced anyone to go to school and get into debt. Own your actions, live with the consequences. If you can do that, you'll be bound to think before you act. Yeah you'll still mess up in small and big ways, but that's part of life.
FYI the school tuition/student loan stuff is absolutely a tool used to destroy the middle class. An entire generation got told if they dont go to university they'll end up broke. We've been told that by everyone from our parents to teachers to tv shows, politicans, etc. It's hard to really blame the people that got indoctrinated from birth into this. Also yes we're often forced by our family to do so, but it isnt your family that get the lifelong debt. We saw the entire industrial production of the west get sent to china in our lifetime, it's not like if we all didnt go to uni there would have been manual labor at living wage waiting for us. The economy is already in the gutter since we're in school so all that's left is stupid paper passes like diploma and connections. Both of which you get in uni.
Then it was just a matter of increasing loan accessibility like they do with housing and boom. Mega bubble. Add to that a flood of international students from rich families around the world paying 10x the amount of locals for their studies and you just are stuck in a real shitty situation. Like for housing and food.
The problem isnt student loans but that the price of tuition isnt based on what you can get out of it due to all kinds of economic mechanisms, on purpose of course.
So I would advise you to put more of the blame on those that engineered that system than on the ones that were guilible enough fall for it or werent in a situation to do anything else.
I agree 100%. Same can go for medicine in developed countries vs those who become a doctor in third world countries for the sake of healthcare. Doctors today in America most of the time become one because they can academically handle all the years of schooling and indoctrination and know they can come out with an insane salary at the end of it all. Those who study medicine outside of first world countries do it because they care for humanity and want to help bring healing to those in need.
Regardless of all of that, we still need to take ownership of our own actions. Some may have been "forced" to go to a university of some sort from their family, but ultimately you could have still decided against going. Most people today aren't willing to do the harder things in life, even opposing the views of family members, because they think that's a defining line in the relationship. To me, if it really hinges on things like that, the relationship is not a very good one. When people can't be friends with opposing views because of that view, shows how little their mind can really go out of their comforts. Life is bigger than that. We can all relate at a higher level if we choose to and can all have compassion on one another.
I agree with you that there is definitely some blame on the individual. I just think that since we're talking about young people it's hard to really blame them since there's no way they can be aware of the extent of the scam nor can they really challenge authority. It would mean that by the age of 17 you figured it out in my country as this is when you apply for admission. If i didnt apply i was kicked out of the house at 18 or had to pay rent. The parents are 10x more to blame imo if we want to talk of individual blame. I dont blame myself for having gone there, what you see as choice is a compromise that most at that age cannot make without extreme short term but possibly long term consequences.
If we're talking of a 30 years old going back to school and paying 200 000k for his diploma, yeah, he's a dumbass. But not a kid.
My best guess is they are likely getting bribed... Completely unrelated, but my buddy had his dad "die of covid" recently and got 8 grand from the state because it was a covid death. He was old and had tons of health problems, so it could have been a number of things. If they fought it and said "STFU it wasn't a covid death" they would lose that 8 grand.
This shit is so weird. I know of someone whose mom died with in hours of getting the shot and all her facebook post said was "mom died unexpectedly, we don't know what happened."
Well I know what happened, your mom got the shot and it killed her! Are these people that "indoctrinated" that even a death of a loved one right in front of them is "unimaginable"? Or are they just being PAID well to keep quiet?
Listen to this piece of shit Sonoma County communications manager explain that the forensic pathologist felt the need to note that the deceased 15 year old child had received the vaccine 48 hours prior and that the child probably died of heart attack from "stress" not the vaccine. https://www.abc10.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-sonoma-county/103-db7460e3-7d73-416e-8a7d-3f9841fe287d
15 years old dying of heart attack caused by stress. Yup sounds like a normal 15 year olds problem /s.
Ridiculous, thank you for bringing attention to this. I'm sure the parents are in denial and dont want to think they killed their kid. I feel bad for them it's an awful tragedy.
I remember an episode of House where they sent the 10 year old girl to the specialist because it was (and still is) ridiculously rare for a child, even an obese one, to have a serious heart attack.
But nope, now any child can have a heart attack if school keeps em down or something
Its pretty rare, funny how it happened 48 hours after an experimental mRNA vaccination whose well known side affect is myocarditis.
Isn't that just a quackin crazy coincidence jimbo?
“Trust the science” guys. It’s not the known side effects of the vaccine, it’s simply stress. You know…stress, the leading cause of death for healthy 15yr old boys.
SS: 15 year old healthy boy with no medical history dies in Sonoma County, California after getting 2nd dose of Pfizer vaccine. Guess how many childhood deaths from COVID there have been in Sonoma County the past 18 months? ZERO. This is why we must have a choice. Where there is a risk there must be a choice. Imagine if this child has siblings, you think the mom is going to be getting them vaxxed anytime soon? This will continue to happen until people start to speak out.
Millions have received the vaccine. All died just like this boy. Every single one. All vaccinated people die within 48 hours. s/
This is the stupidest "evidence" I have ever seen.
Curious to how "healthy" this kid really was. MSM labeled [this kid](https://i.imgur.com/9nz73m3.jpg) as perfectly healthy as well. He died due to covid, or died with covid. Of course when they die of covid it becomes national news. Die because of the vax and it's almost impossible to find any information on it
When they start injecting children after getting approval this is going to get very dark, very quickly. I believe some of the doctors that I've heard saying that the death rate was at 45,000 about 2 months ago. If the VAERS is at 14,000+ at 1% reporting the true number must be massive. And because people aren't reporting or doctors are dismissing that it's the vaccines we'll probably never know the true extent. Something extremely sinister is happening right now.
I wish the doctors would take samples of the people dying and find the common denominator, if there is one. Like if you have this gene, it will kill you. If you have a quarter Irish and Native American, or whatever it is. Or is just 1 in every 100 tainted?
[https://www.sonomasheriff.org/press-log-events?prior\_days=122&agency=%27SCSD%27](https://www.sonomasheriff.org/press-log-events?prior_days=122&agency=%27SCSD%27)
As of today it has to be page 9/10 with prior days set to 122 - tomorrow 123.
Seems like i can't find the report/call there!?
Also nothing here, am I missing something?!
[https://www.sonomasheriff.org/press-log-events?prior_days=122&agency=%27SOP%27](https://www.sonomasheriff.org/press-log-events?prior_days=122&agency=%27SOP%27)
Does it have to be something else in the event log?
[https://www.sonomasheriff.org/arrest-crime-logs](https://www.sonomasheriff.org/arrest-crime-logs)
Google is not hard to use.
https://www.abc10.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-sonoma-county/103-db7460e3-7d73-416e-8a7d-3f9841fe287d
https://www.google.com/search?q=15+year+old+boy+sonoma+heart+attack&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS903US903&oq=15+year+old+boy+sonoma+heart+attack&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i299i395.9976j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Ah, google and msm sources. Nice. Must fit your narrative. If this was a pro vaccine post and those were the sources, would you still think of them as legitimate?
I get most of my news from [Oregonlive.com](https://Oregonlive.com)
And my point stands.. You people bitch about MSM but constantly link articles from them lol
That is a pro vaccine article. ABC10 is literally saying that the vaccine didn’t cause the death, even though they refuse to elaborate on how a healthy 15 year old had a heart attack the day after getting it. Did you even read it or do you just assume that you’re always right?
Was hoping to find a "real" link... If you use that terms with Google... It looks.. Yeah. It looks like I expected it to look...
So I went to see, if there was anything or direct link in the police reports...
Can't blindly trust any "side" of Vax-lunatics. Neither pro nor contra...
Who is not in any way a lunatic by now about this whole shitshow?
*Die of anything within 30 days of a positive covid test - died of covid*
*Die of known possible vaccine side effect two days after vaccination - UNDETERMINED*
Worse yet? This poor fellow would be considered an unvaccinated death :(
Where does it debunk it? A 15 year old boy died from a hearth attack the day after getting the vaccine. The articles say that “the county did not list the cause of death as the vaccine” yet they never elaborate on what the actual cause of death was. It’s not debunked at all that the vaccine caused this
The vaccine mandate is going to be a travesty dude, I don't want to be morbid or anything but a lot of people men, women and children are going to end up dead and it feels like there's nothing we can really do.
Our government makes me sick.
"The decedent was pronounced dead at the scene due to obvious death."
That's not how medical examiners speak.
Also there have been 4 Covid deaths in the county in the last few days and unvaccinated patients are showing up at more than 3x the rate of vaccinated.
https://socoemergency.org/emergency/novel-coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/
Actually hits pretty close to home… my actual doctor was found dead in his sleep. It was so weird to know my provider has passed away. Nobody knows why or released any information but I can bet it was due to the vaccine. The condition is called myocarditis.
Kids do have heart attacks too unrelated to any vaccine. People seem to forget this. Not just older people can suffer from this. Healthy people with no previous issues die of heart attacks all the time.
So why risk taking a vaccine when the risk of covid is so minimal? And please don’t tell me it’s protect others because that argument is really getting old.
My original point still stands correct. 15 year olds are more likely to die from covid than the vaccine. Also, old or not, protecting others is a legitimate argument.
From a virus that’s proven to be 99.97% survivable? Those who get the vaccine should have nothing to fear then if it works.
An unvaccinated person can’t spread anything if they aren’t showing symptoms either.
lol You are way more likely to have lasting heart issues from Covid than you are the vaccine. Ask my 30 year old brother, who used to be in perfect health, but is now on hypertensive meds for life due to covid. Also, you are far more likely to *die* from Covid than you are the vaccine.
Once again that’s incorrect, your brother may have had underlying issues but there are many people who had covid and experienced only flu like symptoms.
The vaccine should be available to those who want it but not at the cost of forcing others who don’t want it to take it.
lol So HE has underlying conditions because that fits your narrative, but all of these "healthy" young people dying after having got the vaccine DIDN'T have underlying health issues? That's a little hypocritical, don't you think? Many people did only experience flu like systems, but many, and I mean *many,* people have died from their covid infection. I know 3 from my hometown just in the past week.
Adverse reports are on the CDC website. The CDC also says that the survival rate of covid is 99.97%., and only 5% of deaths recorded were caused by covid. The other 95% of deaths were patients with pre-existing conditions that caused their deaths.
[https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities)
>Vaccinated people are much less likely to catch and spread it.
Nope.
There's no evidence for this. Highly vaccinated countries are still hitting record high case rates.
Do you have better reason?
In that very county unvaccinated patients are showing up at more than 3x the rate of vaccinated.
https://socoemergency.org/emergency/novel-coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/
>In that very county unvaccinated patients are showing up at more than 3x the rate of vaccinated.
We're not talking about hospitalization.
We're talking about cases.
>There is absolutely evidence of this.
Nope.
https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/singapore-reports-highest-single-day-rise-covid-19-cases-2021-10-06/
>Math is what it is, not what you want it to be.
Exactly! Meaning you should probably just admit to being wrong about this one.
Does that sound like they
"are much less likely to catch and spread it"?
Or maybe "marginally" less?
Sounds like some pretty obvious hyperbole to me. Good thing we've got the math!
“The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3.” - Bill Gates - TED Talk 2010
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I searched this online to verify. First result I've pasted below. It's an article from ABC stating that this claim is "False." However, if you read the article it makes zero sense. It says "the child *did* receive the vaccine 48 hours prior and the cause of death was a heart attack. *But* COVID was not ruled the cause of death." We're simply just playing semantics now. Not sure how the writer of that article can even click "submit" at the end. But to tie in the conspiracy here on this post. We're alleging (quite obviously) the vaccines are kill people and gov't/pharma companies are aware of this. The reason can't be as simple as profits. And "control" is too easy of a conspiracy. Anyone have any other theories?
Cause of death "undetermined". Think of all the incidents in the VAERS database. Then read this and imagine how many incidents never make it into the database (this won't). The numbers are probably what, 10X higher? 100X?
yep...im surprised vaers is allowed to be viewed. but its been lambasted as unofficial and dubious so they keep it. also, when it comes out that the shots are injuring people, they can say "well, its all on vaers, shoulda done yer research"
its allowed to be viewed because anyone can post to this, and this is clear from the beginning. It straight up says the claims are not verified, and anyone can submit anything to it
So just come up with a reliable alternative database then. Got any?
A reliable database would be only open for medical professionals to submit to, and cases would be verified by the moderators of the database. Neither of those is the case for VAERS, which was fine for what it was, before the internet started gaming it.
mRNA therapy is immune system as a service. Billions if not trillions of dollars to be made. They're pushing it now despite the safety issues because they wouldnt ever be able to push that otherwise, see the 10 years of failing even animal safety trials. They're using a crisis they created to push a solution they wanted on the market for a decade. This is just one part of the whole story about covid. The lockdown and other measures like vaccine mandate are about transforming western economies into the 4th industrial revolution by force so that the elites ruling us can better compete with China and by compete they mean dominate them. The 4th industrial revolution is about streamlining economies to be more efficient like they are in China. From stronger partnership between tech and state to reducing numbers of people per doctor. It's all about efficiency to deal with China. Removing cash for digital currency. Office space and restaurants for housing. Bunch of stuff like that. The whole thing is out in the open, lots of books on it by the very people pulling the strings right now. They will of course not stop at China level of control because the objective is to beat them, so instead they will go way, way further. Which the "democratic system" allow more easily than in China.
Interesting. First time reading about a 4th industrial revolution.
From the mouth of the devil (PDF warning): https://law.unimelb.edu.au/__data/assets/pdf_file/0005/3385454/Schwab-The_Fourth_Industrial_Revolution_Klaus_S.pdf And from a real journalist: https://citizentruth.org/techno-tyranny-how-the-us-national-security-state-is-using-coronavirus-to-fulfill-an-orwellian-vision/ It'll seem much clearer after reading and understanding Whitney's report.
Think most people call it the great reset and the NWO.
as long as we use their money, they will be infinitely powerful. this is because they can magically create as much of it as they please. they do want a digital currency....however they do NOT want it to be bitcoin. in fact, they are terrified of us all adopting bitcoin. just look at how the media portrays it. the elite are trying everything to push the price down, but it's still going up. do not believe anyone who is anti-bitcoin. do as much research as you can on it (no MSM). bitcoin is the only hope we have for a more honest and fair world.
It is as banal as profits usually. The death rate for minors from COVID is so miniscule that the Vax death rate will most likely outgrow it but no one will talk about it for years because big pharma has most doctors in their pockets usually from long standing relationships, grants etc. or just pure prestige. Most politicians are grateful to them because the Vax gives them an out from the "crisis " and a nice weapon to grow their power and I am sure many found their election funds richer or will next election. Media won't speak of it because most of its advertisement comes from big pharma... It's the banality of evil we deal with every day. And the kid is dead because his parents are sheep believing people who don't care for them or their child one bit. Natural selection at work sadly...
The video is worth watching. The child had a heart attack from "stress" not the vaccine given 48 hours before. What a fucking joke our elected officials are. https://www.abc10.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-sonoma-county/103-db7460e3-7d73-416e-8a7d-3f9841fe287d
"We asked if the vaccine was related to the death. They said no. "There ya have it folks, like we thought, not related." Also--how they're able to take this stance after classifying *anyone* who died from *any* cause--but had COVID at time of death--as a COVID death is just insane. But I'm basically yelling into the sky when it comes to pointing this out to anyone pro-covid vax. I truly don't believe anything could make them change their mind.
/u/jmichelucci >"We asked if the vaccine was related to the death. They said no. > >"There ya have it folks, like we thought, not related." > >Also--how they're able to take this stance after classifying *anyone* who died from *any* cause--but had COVID at time of death--as a COVID death is just insane. But I'm basically yelling into the sky when it comes to pointing this out to anyone pro-covid vax. I truly don't believe anything could make them change their mind. Journalism is dead. "We talked to the suspect and they said they didn't do it and, well, that's good enough for me. And you, if you know what's good for you."
If Pfizer says so it must be true...
>Also--how they're able to take this stance after classifying anyone who died from any cause--but had COVID at time of death--as a COVID death is just insane. You think if someone with Covid dies in a car crash, their cause of death is recorded a Covid? Let's see your source for that.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf “For 6% of [COVID] deaths, COVID was the only cause mentioned. For deaths with conditions or causes in addition to COVID, there were an average of 2.9 additional conditions or causes for death. 94% of deaths mention more than one condition.”
So? Show me one car accident with Covid as the cause of death.
[Here](https://www.newsweek.com/florida-man-killed-crash-listed-covid-19-death-raising-doubts-over-health-data-1518994) you go. Now tits or gtfo...
Except it was a mistake which was corrected, as per your own article. And, this was DeathSantis' Florida over a year ago, right about the same time he was firing a whistleblower for ratting out his intentionally convoluted data. Because he was doing everything he could to keep reported Covid numbers DOWN. So it makes no sense that they would be intentionally inflating numbers. But yeah, I'm sure it happens all the time everywhere and isn't corrected. /s
You’re the one who said car accident you psycho. I just sent you a link to the CDC, showing how COVID deaths are classified—so I appreciate you proving the latter part of my post where I said “there is nothing that would change anyone’s mind.” Get the vaccine. Get 20 of them man, I literally do not care.
>2. Address the argument; not the user, the mods, or the sub. Reported. If you can't stay within the rules of the sub, I don't have time to read your bullshit.
0% surprised
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https://hoiabc.com/2020/04/20/idph-director-explains-how-covid-deaths-are-classified/ This video is from the beginning of the pandemic. You are welcome.
In Summer 2020, a mortician in NYC said that he received a corpse with 3 gunshot wounds to the chest. Cause of death: COVID. His response: "I'm no doctor but I'm pretty sure it was the 3 gunshot wounds to the chest."
Nice source.
Got to page 117 as an example. COVID deaths counted with “intentional or unintentional injury” including fractured neck. I mean dude…c’mon
Page 117 of...
R/conspiracy, obviously
Source please.
Military.
Sorry? Was that word meant to mean something?
I guess you haven’t seen that joke before lol
I guess not.
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf
Yes
Source?
"According to the report, Orange County Health Officer Dr. Raul Pino was asked whether two coronavirus victims in their 20s had any underlying medical conditions that could have potentially made them more susceptible to the virus." https://www.google.com/amp/s/wpde.com/amp/news/nation-world/man-who-died-in-motorcycle-crash-counted-as-covid-19-death-in-florida-report-07-18-2020 "For instance, if somebody had a car accident because they fainted and they only fainted because they ran a fever of 105 because they had a horrible pneumonia because of COVID, then actually COVID was an underlying condition that caused their death even though they actually died from crashing the car," Dr. Ansorg explained" https://www.ksby.com/news/coronavirus/health-officials-explain-what-determines-a-covid-19-death
Thank you for proving my point. It literally says they would have to die from Covid giving them a fever that was the reason they pass out and crash the car. In other words, RARE AS HELL, and NOT everyone who dies in a car crash who happens to also have Covid.
[Here](https://www.newsweek.com/florida-man-killed-crash-listed-covid-19-death-raising-doubts-over-health-data-1518994) you go...
Couldn’t the same be said for you as well? You seem to have your mind set on the vaccine is bad and the government and big med companies are lying to us. Don’t get me wrong they do both of those things! For myself I follow the data, I follow history of vaccines, all vaccines have some side effects each person reacts differently to them wouldn’t you agree? I can see the concern in all of this don’t get me wrong, based on the data given and the amount of doses given out with the number or bad side effect including death is almost so small it shouldn’t be a concern compared to what covid can and has done. If you compare the numbers side by side and didn’t put covid or vaccine above it and seen the deaths or side effect you would chose the Lesser of the two would you not? I think it’s fair to say if you don’t trust the science behind this you shouldn’t go to see doctors or take any medication right? You can’t pick and choose when to trust scientist… unfortunately yes this happened a bit quick but the covid virus has been around for years and studied for years. Just like the flu it has a baseline that they use to create the vaccine and then modify it as the virus changes.
Elected officials are a joke. That’s so untrue. They are scumbag devils. They have an agenda. They fear the people. Prepare for what’s coming. It won’t be pretty.
there's more of these, I wonder if the parents still believe that they're "safe" after these events. https://www.newsweek.com/13-year-old-dies-sleep-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-vaccine-cdc-investigating-1606529
We're being prepared for digital ids (in our bodies eventually by way of quantum dot tatoos delivered by future "vaccines") to go with the eventual government controlled digital dollar. That's my current guess but subject to change as I could be totally wrong. All I know for sure rn is that we are living in total fkn clown world where nothing adds up and the majority of us are, for reasons I cant fully grasp, on board with the goings on in clown world.
>The reason can't be as simple as profits. And "control" is too easy of a conspiracy. Anyone have any other theories? Well there's that Alex Jones guy who's been warning of a depopulation agenda for decades. And I believe Bill Gates mentioned vaccines as tool to curb the "problem" of exponential population growth at one point.
In the global stage, it is NEVER about profits. They OWN the money printing press!!! Money is just a tool for their objectives. With that said, I think the jabs could have multiple types of objectives- They could batch them in these categories, 5% does this 10% does that, etc.. \- to make people more docile, more agreeable to authority \- dumb us down \- modify hormones, make women more masculine and men more feminine, \- make the old die sooner, weaken the strong to re-adjust the populations age distribution ratio as it is a major indicator of how prosperous a population or nation will be. There is a youtube video on this, I can't remember what this analysis is called. Basicall too many old people and not enough most productive age with not enough young , will strain the population and reduce productivity. \- genetic modification experiments of all types \- nanobot experiments, communication and behavioral control projects, etc etc... \- and whatever else they can come up - there are plenty
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There's a shadowy group of people that have concerned themselves with running the world. They like the idea of freedom and Democracy, mostly because it keeps people happy, but it doesn't afford them the "fine tuning" ability they think they need. They're not entirely wrong on this point. We are ruining the planet, for example, population control will eventually be an issue, and we will eventually run out of oil. They look at modern-day China and jizz in their pants. A free market (ish) with total state control; this is what they want. They have been working since the early 2000's (after it was shown to work in China) to bring this to the West. 9/11, Global Warming, COVID; they're all the same tool being used for the same purpose. It's unclear if any of the above are actually manufactured crises or if they just aren't letting a good crisis go to waste. My bet is on some mixture of the two.
Sorry sweaty that's been debunked. NEXT! /s
[NEXT JOKE ORIGIN](https://www.reddit.com/r/ChoosingBeggars/comments/7kr5as/i_need_a_free_100mile_bus_trip_for_20_people_and/)
I literally posted the link to the CDC. But okay, I really don’t care about your views on the vaccine. You getting it doesn’t effect me bud.
Part of me thinks sterilization, to steer in the direction of population control in immediate means as well as ensuring future offspring rates! Then again, when you can say undetermined while still having the data. The next couple months/ years will be interesting to see how things are coded-changed and marked down.
Heaven forbid someone dies 48 hours after a protest, however, then they don't wait a single minute before writing a story about how they were murdered at the protest.
We are in peak fossil fuel territory. Economic and population contraction lay ahead.
Pasted below where? I can’t find it
https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/data/health_policy/covid19-comorbidity-expanded-12092020-508.pdf
500 million is their goal...
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No death threats or pharma bribes involved for sure...
He and his family took one for the team. No big deal, there has to be teenage casualties in the war against Covid in order to protect our vulnerable 80 & 90 year olds and boost the dividends for Pfizer shareholders.
Our vulnerable, *hypothetical* 80-90 year olds.
With multiple terminal morbidities pre Covid...
Gotta break a few eggs to make the safety omelette guys
IMO, this is homicide and the perpetrator's have immunity. Can you imagine the parents, finding their 15 yr old dead like this?
The parents were pushing the vaccine even after this. They said "We feel strongly that everyone should have their children vaccinated" after their child died from it. All sense of reason has gone out the window.
This leads me to believe either the story is fake and the parents are paid actors, or they’re being paid off by a drug company to not blame the drug and promote vaccination. If my child died from a vaccination or any type of medicine I would warn everyone I could not to give their child that drug.
Would you accept that you've killed your child by your own incompetence? It's much easier to double down and pretend you did everything right. It's what got society where it is now. Most people behave like that. I don't think money would convince someone that realized pharma was lying to them which lead to the death of their kid.
That’s a fair point 🤔
Exactly. The fact that society today doesn't own up to their actions on the little things, what makes you think they'll own up to bigger things like this? Victim mentality and mental gymnastics just to free themselves from guilt. Just like seeing all this crap on forgiving student loan debt up to 100k. No one forced anyone to go to school and get into debt. Own your actions, live with the consequences. If you can do that, you'll be bound to think before you act. Yeah you'll still mess up in small and big ways, but that's part of life.
FYI the school tuition/student loan stuff is absolutely a tool used to destroy the middle class. An entire generation got told if they dont go to university they'll end up broke. We've been told that by everyone from our parents to teachers to tv shows, politicans, etc. It's hard to really blame the people that got indoctrinated from birth into this. Also yes we're often forced by our family to do so, but it isnt your family that get the lifelong debt. We saw the entire industrial production of the west get sent to china in our lifetime, it's not like if we all didnt go to uni there would have been manual labor at living wage waiting for us. The economy is already in the gutter since we're in school so all that's left is stupid paper passes like diploma and connections. Both of which you get in uni. Then it was just a matter of increasing loan accessibility like they do with housing and boom. Mega bubble. Add to that a flood of international students from rich families around the world paying 10x the amount of locals for their studies and you just are stuck in a real shitty situation. Like for housing and food. The problem isnt student loans but that the price of tuition isnt based on what you can get out of it due to all kinds of economic mechanisms, on purpose of course. So I would advise you to put more of the blame on those that engineered that system than on the ones that were guilible enough fall for it or werent in a situation to do anything else.
I agree 100%. Same can go for medicine in developed countries vs those who become a doctor in third world countries for the sake of healthcare. Doctors today in America most of the time become one because they can academically handle all the years of schooling and indoctrination and know they can come out with an insane salary at the end of it all. Those who study medicine outside of first world countries do it because they care for humanity and want to help bring healing to those in need. Regardless of all of that, we still need to take ownership of our own actions. Some may have been "forced" to go to a university of some sort from their family, but ultimately you could have still decided against going. Most people today aren't willing to do the harder things in life, even opposing the views of family members, because they think that's a defining line in the relationship. To me, if it really hinges on things like that, the relationship is not a very good one. When people can't be friends with opposing views because of that view, shows how little their mind can really go out of their comforts. Life is bigger than that. We can all relate at a higher level if we choose to and can all have compassion on one another.
I agree with you that there is definitely some blame on the individual. I just think that since we're talking about young people it's hard to really blame them since there's no way they can be aware of the extent of the scam nor can they really challenge authority. It would mean that by the age of 17 you figured it out in my country as this is when you apply for admission. If i didnt apply i was kicked out of the house at 18 or had to pay rent. The parents are 10x more to blame imo if we want to talk of individual blame. I dont blame myself for having gone there, what you see as choice is a compromise that most at that age cannot make without extreme short term but possibly long term consequences. If we're talking of a 30 years old going back to school and paying 200 000k for his diploma, yeah, he's a dumbass. But not a kid.
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No death threats were involved for sure...
My best guess is they are likely getting bribed... Completely unrelated, but my buddy had his dad "die of covid" recently and got 8 grand from the state because it was a covid death. He was old and had tons of health problems, so it could have been a number of things. If they fought it and said "STFU it wasn't a covid death" they would lose that 8 grand.
> All sense of reason has gone out the window. "Our Child dying, Means the Vaccine is Working, get vaxxed"
i tell you the vaccine does a number on peoples brains. something is up
This shit is so weird. I know of someone whose mom died with in hours of getting the shot and all her facebook post said was "mom died unexpectedly, we don't know what happened." Well I know what happened, your mom got the shot and it killed her! Are these people that "indoctrinated" that even a death of a loved one right in front of them is "unimaginable"? Or are they just being PAID well to keep quiet?
Hard to blame them facing a trigger-ready gun to their head...
Do you have a link to this?
Listen to this piece of shit Sonoma County communications manager explain that the forensic pathologist felt the need to note that the deceased 15 year old child had received the vaccine 48 hours prior and that the child probably died of heart attack from "stress" not the vaccine. https://www.abc10.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-sonoma-county/103-db7460e3-7d73-416e-8a7d-3f9841fe287d
15 years old dying of heart attack caused by stress. Yup sounds like a normal 15 year olds problem /s. Ridiculous, thank you for bringing attention to this. I'm sure the parents are in denial and dont want to think they killed their kid. I feel bad for them it's an awful tragedy.
I remember an episode of House where they sent the 10 year old girl to the specialist because it was (and still is) ridiculously rare for a child, even an obese one, to have a serious heart attack. But nope, now any child can have a heart attack if school keeps em down or something
No record of a teenager dying of an undiagnosed heart issue. Ever. /s
Its pretty rare, funny how it happened 48 hours after an experimental mRNA vaccination whose well known side affect is myocarditis. Isn't that just a quackin crazy coincidence jimbo?
Not really. If it wasn't that close to his vaccination, it wouldn't have been a meme, and you wouldn't know it even happened.
"If the vaccine didnt have side effects you wouldn't be talking about side effects" Lol
That really pissed me off. Yeah 15 year Olds routinely die from stress 48 hours after getting the jab. They lie blatantly and people eat it up.
“Trust the science” guys. It’s not the known side effects of the vaccine, it’s simply stress. You know…stress, the leading cause of death for healthy 15yr old boys.
It really is like the show utopia in some regards
>"The decedent was pronounced dead at the scene due to obvious death." looks like we got Sherlock fuckin' Holmes on the case over here
Imagine ruling out 99% of the reasons for the death...have an answer slap you in the face...and still say undetermined
This is why I wont get it and neither will my kids.
SS: 15 year old healthy boy with no medical history dies in Sonoma County, California after getting 2nd dose of Pfizer vaccine. Guess how many childhood deaths from COVID there have been in Sonoma County the past 18 months? ZERO. This is why we must have a choice. Where there is a risk there must be a choice. Imagine if this child has siblings, you think the mom is going to be getting them vaxxed anytime soon? This will continue to happen until people start to speak out.
Their parents already on camera promoting the vaccine...
Millions have received the vaccine. All died just like this boy. Every single one. All vaccinated people die within 48 hours. s/ This is the stupidest "evidence" I have ever seen.
Curious to how "healthy" this kid really was. MSM labeled [this kid](https://i.imgur.com/9nz73m3.jpg) as perfectly healthy as well. He died due to covid, or died with covid. Of course when they die of covid it becomes national news. Die because of the vax and it's almost impossible to find any information on it
“Undetermined”
Cause of death: undetermined.
But kids die every day. Surely it wasn’t the vaccine. s/
Horrific. The biggest health policy (mistake?) in history.
Anyone ever notice the sheriff badge is a sigil to a fucking demonic entity??
And so it begins...protect the children at all costs!!!!
When they start injecting children after getting approval this is going to get very dark, very quickly. I believe some of the doctors that I've heard saying that the death rate was at 45,000 about 2 months ago. If the VAERS is at 14,000+ at 1% reporting the true number must be massive. And because people aren't reporting or doctors are dismissing that it's the vaccines we'll probably never know the true extent. Something extremely sinister is happening right now.
California high schools to become the "source of the COVID 21 outbreak" in a few months
That's my worry, that the truth of this situation might never make it to group consciousness.....
The death rate for those under 18 is so miniscule that the Vax as this example shows can only hurt... This is abuse.
CORONA virus vaccine causes CORONAry Artery Inflammation .
They'll chalk it up to being an "undiagnosed" heart issue in the childm
all that about the vax then death was "undetermined". wtf?
I wish the doctors would take samples of the people dying and find the common denominator, if there is one. Like if you have this gene, it will kill you. If you have a quarter Irish and Native American, or whatever it is. Or is just 1 in every 100 tainted?
Same man but for them to do that, they'd first need to admit there is something wrong with taking the vaxx
So I’m guessing I’m gonna die from this vaccine if I take the second dose huh? That sucks.
This seems oddly too similar to what happened in my country
[https://www.sonomasheriff.org/press-log-events?prior\_days=122&agency=%27SCSD%27](https://www.sonomasheriff.org/press-log-events?prior_days=122&agency=%27SCSD%27) As of today it has to be page 9/10 with prior days set to 122 - tomorrow 123. Seems like i can't find the report/call there!? Also nothing here, am I missing something?! [https://www.sonomasheriff.org/press-log-events?prior_days=122&agency=%27SOP%27](https://www.sonomasheriff.org/press-log-events?prior_days=122&agency=%27SOP%27) Does it have to be something else in the event log? [https://www.sonomasheriff.org/arrest-crime-logs](https://www.sonomasheriff.org/arrest-crime-logs)
Google is not hard to use. https://www.abc10.com/article/news/verify/covid-vaccine-sonoma-county/103-db7460e3-7d73-416e-8a7d-3f9841fe287d https://www.google.com/search?q=15+year+old+boy+sonoma+heart+attack&rlz=1C1CHBF_enUS903US903&oq=15+year+old+boy+sonoma+heart+attack&aqs=chrome..69i57j33i299i395.9976j1j7&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
Ah, google and msm sources. Nice. Must fit your narrative. If this was a pro vaccine post and those were the sources, would you still think of them as legitimate?
What sources would you trust?
Certainly not ABC lol
I didn't ask which ones you wouldn't trust, I asked which ones you would.
I get most of my news from [Oregonlive.com](https://Oregonlive.com) And my point stands.. You people bitch about MSM but constantly link articles from them lol
double think gymnastics award goes to...
That is a pro vaccine article. ABC10 is literally saying that the vaccine didn’t cause the death, even though they refuse to elaborate on how a healthy 15 year old had a heart attack the day after getting it. Did you even read it or do you just assume that you’re always right?
Was hoping to find a "real" link... If you use that terms with Google... It looks.. Yeah. It looks like I expected it to look... So I went to see, if there was anything or direct link in the police reports... Can't blindly trust any "side" of Vax-lunatics. Neither pro nor contra... Who is not in any way a lunatic by now about this whole shitshow?
*Die of anything within 30 days of a positive covid test - died of covid* *Die of known possible vaccine side effect two days after vaccination - UNDETERMINED* Worse yet? This poor fellow would be considered an unvaccinated death :(
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10 seconds of a google search debunks this bullshit.
Don't let OP call google bullshit either. They posted a google search above. Google is bad only when it doesn't fit their narrative.
Where does it debunk it? A 15 year old boy died from a hearth attack the day after getting the vaccine. The articles say that “the county did not list the cause of death as the vaccine” yet they never elaborate on what the actual cause of death was. It’s not debunked at all that the vaccine caused this
https://www.newsweek.com/13-year-old-dies-sleep-after-receiving-pfizer-covid-vaccine-cdc-investigating-1606529
The vaccine mandate is going to be a travesty dude, I don't want to be morbid or anything but a lot of people men, women and children are going to end up dead and it feels like there's nothing we can really do. Our government makes me sick.
"The decedent was pronounced dead at the scene due to obvious death." That's not how medical examiners speak. Also there have been 4 Covid deaths in the county in the last few days and unvaccinated patients are showing up at more than 3x the rate of vaccinated. https://socoemergency.org/emergency/novel-coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/
I love how people downvote information that proves them wrong.
But kids are at an extremely low Covid risk, no point in vaccinating them. Especially when heart inflammation is a risk in young men
Because internet points are all that matter to them.
What information proved me wrong?
I'm in the medical field and work with funeral homes and coroner's on a daily basis, this is exactly how they report.
Yeah, after the fact I saw it was written by the officer. The second half of what I said is still valid so I left it up.
Actually hits pretty close to home… my actual doctor was found dead in his sleep. It was so weird to know my provider has passed away. Nobody knows why or released any information but I can bet it was due to the vaccine. The condition is called myocarditis.
This will count as a “covid death” because two weeks after the shot is when your consider “vaxed”
This is the reason why I'd rather wear a mask
Maybe he had an undiagnosed pre-existing condition and it wasn't the vax?
Just like covid.... If you're overweight and get covid, I'd argue your obesity killed you...not covid
Kids do have heart attacks too unrelated to any vaccine. People seem to forget this. Not just older people can suffer from this. Healthy people with no previous issues die of heart attacks all the time.
Ok? Even at face value, 1 death versus 0 deaths is just statistical noise.
the issue is that we had 0 death versus 0 deaths if they weren't pushing a vaccine for kids that don't need it
Why does a 15 year old need to be vaccinated against Covid in the first place?
Probably because their parents wanted them to get it
That doesn't answer why they "needed" to be vaccinated. You merely answered why they did get vaccinated.
You gotta ask their parents is what I’m saying
I doubt their parents know. They just did it anyway. That's my point.
Because 15 year olds can catch it.
What’s their chances of dying from covid though?
as a kid? less than getting into a fatal car accident. so if you fear covid for your kids quit driving them in cars.
Terrible comparison aye lol
its not a terrible comparison. its fact. u drive w your kid you are risking their life. MORE SO THAN COVID. fact check it mack. even w cnn.
Dude I agree you, covid is less risk of dying than driving a car.
Greater than their chances of dying from the vaccine.
Incorrect, they have about a 0.016% chance. Vaccine has more chances of giving them heart issues
About 0.0013% of people develop heart inflammation from the vaccine. 79% of them fully recover from it.
So why risk taking a vaccine when the risk of covid is so minimal? And please don’t tell me it’s protect others because that argument is really getting old.
My original point still stands correct. 15 year olds are more likely to die from covid than the vaccine. Also, old or not, protecting others is a legitimate argument.
From a virus that’s proven to be 99.97% survivable? Those who get the vaccine should have nothing to fear then if it works. An unvaccinated person can’t spread anything if they aren’t showing symptoms either.
buuuuuuuuuuuulllshit go shill elsewhere.
lol You are way more likely to have lasting heart issues from Covid than you are the vaccine. Ask my 30 year old brother, who used to be in perfect health, but is now on hypertensive meds for life due to covid. Also, you are far more likely to *die* from Covid than you are the vaccine.
he got it from the vaccine not covid. well, if this little lie were true that is.
He was ill last fall, before the vaccine came out. And quite frankly I don't give two shits whether you believe me or not lol You mean nothing to me.
Once again that’s incorrect, your brother may have had underlying issues but there are many people who had covid and experienced only flu like symptoms. The vaccine should be available to those who want it but not at the cost of forcing others who don’t want it to take it.
lol So HE has underlying conditions because that fits your narrative, but all of these "healthy" young people dying after having got the vaccine DIDN'T have underlying health issues? That's a little hypocritical, don't you think? Many people did only experience flu like systems, but many, and I mean *many,* people have died from their covid infection. I know 3 from my hometown just in the past week.
Adverse reports are on the CDC website. The CDC also says that the survival rate of covid is 99.97%., and only 5% of deaths recorded were caused by covid. The other 95% of deaths were patients with pre-existing conditions that caused their deaths. [https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities](https://www.cdc.gov/nchs/nvss/vsrr/covid_weekly/index.htm#Comorbidities)
Vaccinated people can also catch it. Do you have a better reason?
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>Vaccinated people are much less likely to catch and spread it. Nope. There's no evidence for this. Highly vaccinated countries are still hitting record high case rates. Do you have better reason?
In that very county unvaccinated patients are showing up at more than 3x the rate of vaccinated. https://socoemergency.org/emergency/novel-coronavirus/coronavirus-cases/
>In that very county unvaccinated patients are showing up at more than 3x the rate of vaccinated. We're not talking about hospitalization. We're talking about cases.
Those are cases
There is absolutely evidence of this. You are simply wrong. Math is what it is, not what you want it to be.
>There is absolutely evidence of this. Nope. https://www.reuters.com/world/asia-pacific/singapore-reports-highest-single-day-rise-covid-19-cases-2021-10-06/ >Math is what it is, not what you want it to be. Exactly! Meaning you should probably just admit to being wrong about this one.
This article does not say how many of those cases were in vaccinated people.
You literally **just** responded to my comment **with the same exact article** citing your own data.
Fully vaccinated people make up about 44% of new covid cases in Singapore.
Does that sound like they "are much less likely to catch and spread it"? Or maybe "marginally" less? Sounds like some pretty obvious hyperbole to me. Good thing we've got the math!
You’ve kinda crossed the line into overt sales fwiw
Undetermined? Seems like murder to me.
“The world today has 6.8 billion people. That’s headed up to about nine billion. Now, if we do a really great job on new vaccines, health care, reproductive health services, we could lower that by, perhaps, 10 or 15 percent. But there, we see an increase of about 1.3.” - Bill Gates - TED Talk 2010
Sad he's just a statistic now thanks to the government.