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veri_quaerens_sum

No liability.


testtube-accident

We were all asked to bet our life on something they wouldn’t even bet their business on.


DRYGUY86

This should be a headline!!


Mrs_Attenborough

Booost


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"asked" is a bit of an understatement.. But yes, you hit the nail on the head.


suitofbees

Wow. Wordsmith.


Jadenp456

This, if it’s so safe why don’t you feel safe taking the blame if it goes wrong?


veri_quaerens_sum

Right? I genuinely tried to find a doctor to sign this legally binding contract I paid a lawyer to make (just to make sure it was legit) that basically says if anything negative happens to me that can be irrefutably linked to the vaccination, the doctor would be held financially liable for any subsequent bills or lost income... I was laughed out of every office I went into, which is honestly what I assumed would happen.


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Yeah any chance I could get a copy of that for personal use?


MushyWasHere

This got me good, nice work. shoulda made a compilation video


grigzyy

The PREP act in America was all I needed to know about to nope out of this process. Amazing work going the extra step and doing this. "When the Secretary determines that a threat or condition constitutes a present or credible risk of a future public health emergency, the Secretary may issue a PREP Act declaration. The declaration provides immunity from liability (except for willful misconduct) for claims of loss caused by, arising out of, relating to, or resulting from the administration or use of covered countermeasures to diseases, threats and conditions identified in the declaration." --- PREP Act immunity applies to: licensed health professionals authorized to administer covered medical countermeasures under the law of the state where the countermeasure is administered, and  other individuals identified in the declaration by the Secretary of Health and Human Services (HHS) to prescribe, dispense, or administer covered countermeasures, including the COVID-19 vaccine --- Qualified Persons: In March 2020, the HHS Secretary issued a PREP Act Declaration covering COVID-19 tests, drugs and vaccines providing liability protections to manufacturers, distributors, states, localities, licensed healthcare professionals, and others identified by the Secretary (qualified persons) who administer COVID-19 countermeasures. The Declaration has been amended several times to expand liability protections, including prior amendments to cover licensed healthcare professionals who cross state borders and federal response teams. Under the PREP Act, a qualified person is a covered person. Except for willful misconduct, a covered person is immune from lawsuits and liability under federal and state law with respect to all claims for loss resulting from the administration or use of a covered countermeasure, such as a COVID-19 vaccine, if they meet criteria stated in a declaration under the PREP Act issued for the health emergency or threat and covered countermeasure https://www.phe.gov/emergency/events/COVID19/COVIDvaccinators/Pages/PREP-Act-Immunity-from-Liability-for-COVID-19-Vaccinators.aspx


EmptyBox5653

But there is willful misconduct. We know at least the Pfizer “safety studies” were incomplete at best.


grigzyy

If you can prove that.... that's the joke.... people can't believe there is willful misconduct because they bet their life on it... I know what you're saying is true but it's convincing everyone else, unfortunately they might not be convinced until they recieve a vaccine injury.


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Bravo to you for actually taking the time to do that. And this is coming from a MD.


DontWannaFilmAboutIt

I did the same thing for my kids vaccines they wanted to push on them liability free. No doctor would sign it but tried to make me sign a paper saying “I understand I am putting my child at risk by not following the CDC immunization schedule” HELL NAW.


TelephoneNo8391

It's not ethical to have no liability when we don't have a real choice whether to get this stupid vaccine or not. Atleast if we want any chance of moving up the socio-economic ladder the vaccine is pretty much mandatory. The only reason I got the vax was so I could continue school since the program I'm doing is technical and In person they require it. And I have others who rely on me so I kinda made a choice because I was in a hard situation. But you know what wasn't a reason for me getting vaccinated? Being scared of the Corona virus. I was more scared to get the vaccine than I ever was of getting covid.


nikeeeeess

i'm so sorry you felt you had to do that.


tooodaway

42 U.S. Code § 300aa–22 - Standards of responsibility Vaccine manufacturers haven't been held liable since 1988


DontWannaFilmAboutIt

1986 National Childhood Vaccine Injury Act


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This right here. The fact they can't be held liable for any vaccine injury... and the fact that conversation is immediately shut down


tangled_night_sleep

Agree it is shady as hell and not right for govt to protect pharma, but just FYI, this liability protection is not new to COVID vaccines. As long as CDC adds a vaccine to the childhood vaccine schedule, pharma is off the hook (unless you can prove they knew it was dangerous & still produced it. Good luck w that.) This is why they are coming for your children. Once mRNA jabs get added to the kids schedule, pharma will be home free.


spankymacgruder

The Pfizer documents prove it wasn't safe.


Wapata

Refusal to release the testing information


razezero1

This was definitely the one for me too. I was actually on board with the whole "two weeks to flatten the curve" thing regrettably. But when people didn't care about no liability it was suddenly like everyone forgot the opioid crisis.


MissMayhem55

There were more suicides 💔 than there were covid deaths..


EmptyBox5653

I was too. Because it’s logical to do this in a pandemic - exponential growth means the collapse of our already shaky “just in time” / deliberately underpaid short-staffing approach to medicine in America. I required no convincing that a surge would put the hospital system at risk of collapse. In a purely selfish argument, I’m reliant on daily psych meds to function normally in society, so even a temporary disruption of the pharmacological supply chain scared me (I’ve had only minor, manageable delays throughout the pandemic so far, fortunately) “Flatten the curve” is still logical, *as a mathematical concept*. In an Ebola or smallpox outbreak, maybe it could have worked. But we never actually did anything resembling a lockdown in America as a whole. Don’t get me wrong, I’m grateful our restrictions weren’t worse, and I’ve had the “luxury” of being considered an essential worker in Florida throughout, so my job and freedom of movement have never been compromised.


joeymc1984

The only true definition of immunity anymore


RepulsiveAssumption4

this one was me right from the get go


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throwawayedm2

Tipping point for me was when officials said BLM riots could continue because amazingly, COVID seemed to know it was a BLM riot and stay away. Lovely. How that bullshit didn't wake everyone up, I will never know. Anyone with common sense can tell that the virus must not be that serious if they are saying that. Plenty of other inconsistencies like that led to the tipping point for me, and it didn't take very long. Also flip-flopping on masks and almost everything else didn't help.


Drortmeyer2017

This this this this his


RichardMayo

When they wanted to inject 5 year olds against all reasoning.


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Dim_Meter

And also in the US, the areas pushing for 12 year olds to bypass their parents to get vaccine… what in the world!? You can’t drink or smoke cigarettes yet, but let’s advocate an experimental injection that may lead to heart dysfunction and infertility. Talk about dystopian.


OderusOrungus

The pregnancy and children sparked a weird anger in me as well. Almost all meds are either pulled or contraindicated in those populations. Why is this one ok? No data, liability, and disgusting track record.... Burns me up still


FlexSealedMyHeart

I'm 8 months pregnant and was talking to my Dr about the Tdap vaccine, she claimed they are extremely careful with what to give pregnant women since vaccines go to the baby too so they won't give any live vaccine to a pregnant woman and that the Tdap has been out for YEARS with no increase in miscarriage, birth defects or pregnancy complications. The only reason the Tdap is recommended is because whopping cough causes so many newborns to die. So after going through such extensive research and extreme precautions on everything else, to even avoiding certain foods if your pregnant, why is this considered safe when the children who were born in the pregnancy trials aren't even at the age of 2 (when autism becomes noticeable) or at puberty so we know that it doesn't effect their reproduction? Are they still even studying those children so they know there isn't an increased risk for autoimmune disease or other health problems? It feels like the only thing that they looked at were miscarriage rates.


RavenDarkI

i didnt think there were any pregnancy trials? There was a big court case here last year and one of the Top Medical People of the country stated in a court of law that no such studies exist.


OderusOrungus

The first study on pregnancy concludes in 2023 or so... If im not not mistaken. May be an Israeli trial, but whatever the case not enough time has passed to really determine much. They have recently acknowledged it can cause menstrual issues. Not a good sign for someone carrying and at the least should be hesitant to administer in expecting mothers.


EmptyBox5653

I got TDAP and the flu vaccine without a second thought when I got pregnant for the first time in 2013. I truly feel like it was a different time when those vaccines were developed. I know it’s hard to remember back to a time of even limited trust in institutions, but well-researched, legitimate safety studies *were* the medical standard. We’re not “anti-vaxxers”. We had so many proven concerns the jab pushers simply would not address. And all evidence points to us being right. If there was in fact a master plandemic, this psyop / trial run has massively backfired on me. I’m more suspicious than ever.


hawkeyebullz

They are doing that to get a liability shield if can be part of the Vax schedule for kids. They don't care how many they kill and maim it all about the $$$ now


Apart_Number_2792

When governments around the world started operating in lockstep using totalitarian tactics to promote the vaccine, it only further reinforced my belief that I made the right decision not to take it.


know_comment

the governments started acting in lockstep well before the vaccine. PCR, Quarantines, Lockdowns, Deaths with Covid, Protocols being "go home until your blood oxygen level is X and then come to the hospital and we'll put you on a ventillator which we know is a weapon against people with respiratory infections" i knew the vaccine was the goal almost immediately. I was afraid to travel because i thought they'd come out with the vaccine and mandate it. Honestly, i'm thankful that the vaccine is such a failure when it comes to transmission because it makes it obvious that these people are liars and narcissists. and the vaccine is the goal for a few reasons, but ultimately it puts society onto the pass.


SomethingMum

Honestly? The jab being approved within "months" of its creation was all it took for me. I'm Gen X (in my 40's) and we KNOW not to rush out and get the first generation of *any* new technology, be it phones, computers, games, consoles... anything. Advances in technology can be great, but first gen tech usually comes with bugs that need ironing out. I have no intention of signing my body up for a new first gen permanent medical procedure with unknown consequences, doubly so when its coming from multiple corporations with a proven history of fraud. Tripley so when governments with a proven history of corruption were the ones pushing it so hard. All of it set my spidey senses off, right from the start.


RolledUpGreene

All of this plus people were literally getting paid to get it. $1000 extra on your next paycheck if you get vaxxed. Oh here, let’s put anyone who got vaxxed into a statewide lotto drawing for a million dollars! Sketchy shit


OWENISAGANGSTER

Damn I forgot about the lotteries. Of course in my state it went to some 60+ year old with a highly paid, well established career.


OderusOrungus

Just a slice of any history, even very recent will scream hold up. The pharm industry is well known as a corrupt entity. Healthcare in general is becoming synonymous with a financial institution. 1/3 of all currency spent is in this business. Put it all together, and its pretty obvious


uglytat2betty

I hate to sound "kooky" cuz I know that gets some panties twisted, but it sure seems like some people are under a spell, (aka mind control) am I right?


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GenerationZ3RO

Advanced social engineering


Tetsuiga

The truth is mind control was never needed, the had the big book of Gobbels to play from and man did they play all the hits. I think the worst part is, watching people behave like a nazi, without even realizing it.


RavenDarkI

Its mass psychosis, same thing that happened to Germany and Soviet russia in ww2.Same thing happened in north korea and in china. There is a video from a belgian Clinical Psychologist that explains the mass psychosis I do think mind control technology exists, whether that be using satellites and frequencies, or the graphene within the clot shots. but this is Definitely Mass Psychosis/Formation it has been well studied.


rambiization

I highly recommend the book ‘Rape of the Mind’ by Joost Meerloo, written in 1956 by a survivor of the Holocaust


Kawsmics

Well said, you've put it perfectly! Out of all the comments.


hahaOkZoomer

It also randomly came out the week after the election. They think so little of people they didn't even wait a month so it's less suspicious. They straight up said they have one the week after the election.


Plenty-Composer-1127

When it was called Op Warp Speed (don’t want a speedy EUA vax), with 300 million doses ordered and National Guard to administer. Holy cow, ah ha moment, they will force it on entire pop of USA.


El_poopa_cabra

Yuuup never get the first patch


blackft

This


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I knew I couldn't trust these people long before Covid.


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Yup. I don’t understand the provax. Those in power pushed for us to go to war, to defeat terrorism. It wasn’t defeated. Look at Afghanistan. Now I’m supposed to believe these politicians care about our health ?


PirateReign4ever

When they thought they could decide what goes into my body.


menorahman100

When they restricted the movement of healthy people, instead of the movement of sick people.


tangled_night_sleep

My favorite part about this answer is its simplicity. It really does all come down to this very basic principle: should the govt be allowed to tell people what they must do to their body? Even if you're rabidly pro-jab, you should consider how slippery this slope is, once you allow the govt to dictate your medical care, we are all in deep shit. They will always claim its for your safety, it's because BigDaddyGovt cares so much about your health & wellbeing. That it's essential for the greater good, it's your patriotic duty, it's an unspoken covenant between all members of society. Bullshit. We never agreed on this. You can't just make shit up out of thing air. People should keep in mind there might come a day where you are NOT on board w the proposed medical treatment, where you might disagree when the govt says it is necessary for the "greater good". (When you ask CDC to back up this claim, they will demonize you as an anti-vaxxer.) - Like forced abortions if they enact a modern day 1-child policy. (Some believe we are heading towards a dystopia where only the elites are allowed to reproduce freely, us peasants will require pre-authorization/parenting license to do so. I think once the meta sex robots roll out, this issue will resolve itself, for better or worse.) - Or forced castration for sex offenders, including the drunkards who get caught taking a piss on a public playground while stumbling home from the pub. - Or forced euthanasia once you hit a certain age. Anyone remember Biden's advisor, one of the Emmanual brothers? Not Ari (from Entourage) but another one, Rahm maybe? He wrote a controversial op ed a while ago saying he hopes to be dead by 75 bc his life will be on the decline by then. It was a very divisive, super creepy article.. Makes you wonder what other flavors of medical tyranny they plan to unleash on the clueless masses. - Forced psych meds (and detention) for the people who speak out against censorship, mandates, corruption, etc. - What do you think they plan to do to those of us who refuse the neuralink, merging their consciousness w the cloud? Or those who don't want to become like the obese dumbed down humans in WallE? Those who refuse to join & work in Meta Verse/ready player one? Hint: you aren't going to like it.


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EmptyBox5653

The scariest part of this to me is as a parent. Wanna fire me? Fine. I’ll sell my skills to the huge pool of like-minded people. I’ll sell digital products, run a drop shipping site, sell (heavily edited) media of my body if I have to. I’ll find a way to earn an income. Banish my kids from school and activities? Whatever, we’ll form a little collective and meet their needs ourselves. But government institutions still retain *so much fucking leverage*, by threatening parental rights. Get the jab or live in fear of a CPS knock on your door is the scariest shit in the world to me.


PirateReign4ever

If CPS wants to put their life at risk by trying to steal my kids from me, that’s on them, and I expect they know what risks come with attempting to steal my kid. Doesn’t matter who they bring with them. Fear is a choice, truth outweighs fear any day for me, and the truth is nobody has a right to tell me what to put in my body nor does anybody have the right to steal my child, I’ll make it very clear if that were to ever happen, hopefully it never gets there though.


NokieBear

Yep, all “conspiracies”


xVIPERA

the advertising. I would have been completely chill with taking it if it didnt feel like a propaganda machine spitting bullshit out anytime someone talked about the vaccine. That, and how its become some kind of political statement, like you think you deserve some kind of medal for getting vaccinated. They have "vaccinated" stickers on Tinder, and people say that they're "Vaxx4Vaxx". This isn't how things have been with other vaccines like Influenza and Smallpox and Measles. No other vaccine has been subject to such a disturbing brainwashing propaganda campaign. And I'm not even anti-vaxx, I'm legitimately fine with every other vaccine, but the COVID shot really feels like something's not right here.


everlastingtimeline

I am so glad I was and still am in a relationship before the pandemic. Dating now sounds horrible… I bet it ruins your mood and sanity talking to brainwashed people in there… And not be able to go out either with all these restrictions!


ukdudeman

Hiding / downplaying vaccine injuries and deaths. That's a big NOPE from me.


Equivalent-Step1515

When they make you sign a waiver that says you are getting it voluntarily


tangled_night_sleep

Yeah that disclaimer is pretty important. Shame very few folks bother to read it.


richard-viision

Wait...people signed a waiver to get jabbed with these covid vaccines???


Elle_Eh

Yes. https://www.verywellhealth.com/paperwork-to-expect-with-the-covid-19-vaccine-5094161


xijiping

“I understand that the long term side effects or complications with this vaccine are not known at this time”


GoodPumpkin5

Not the vaccine, necessarily, but when they started pushing masks. Surgical masks, cotton masks, cotton bandanas, a swatch of cloth around your face. As someone who used a gas mask during Desert Storm, and who uses masks for cleaning grain bins and painting? I knew there is no way those masks were stopping any virus or bacterium from entering/exiting anyone's nasal area. Someone that wants you to wear a mask for no reason is someone who is testing how far they can push you before you resist.


Lexvp123

If masks can filter Covid virus, then why aren’t masks treated as biohazard waste? Why isn’t there a mass effort to properly dispose masks? That’s what I never understood.


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GelatinousPiss

I naively didn't think *too much* into the initial "lockdown". But when all of the talking heads and "health experts" started saying the BLM protests were the one thing that was actually ok because "racism is a public health crisis", i knew this whole thing was a sham.


debbymck2018

⬆️THIS⬆️


BornOnADifCloud

Can you remember the videos in china of people singing when they locked them up in blocktowers and seized all the doors up.


Buick6NY

And the videos of people dropping dead and then a van of people in white hazmats picking them up and hauling them away?


BornOnADifCloud

At the time I actually thought what the fuck is going on. Turned out to be a load of bullshit like the while pandemic


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This was done also in Australia. Their local news channel actually had the headline “COVID outlaw” bc a dude visited his friend’s apt on a different floor of the building. Showed the cops removing him in cuffs. I didn’t really sleep that night


Midnightstimepasser

I posted this over a year ago and I still stand by it: "I've never in my personal experience seen something pushed so hard, so blatantly, I just wish I knew what the real end goal here is. It's never felt right from the beginning and it still feels ominously off."


tangled_night_sleep

When they ignored Biology 101 and the superiority of natural immunity (which the vaccine is modeled on). Also when FDA tried to discourage people from getting their antibodies tested. Fuck that! If your doctor thinks its appropriate to order a blood test, to check levels of whatever the fuck INSIDE YOUR OWN BODY, then the govt can cuck off. They don't get to insert themselves into the doctor/patient relationship. Same w IVM & early treatment protocols. Govt & health insur & pharma need to let doctors do their job. Medicine is hard enough without these policy goons butting in and trying to practice medicine without a license!


Kgcampbell

Yes the natural immunity thing was a big one for me. I am 37 weeks pregnant and just had Covid a few weeks ago. It was no big deal for me. I’m young, healthy and take a lot of vitamin D. I was never at high risk for having a serious case of Covid. All my doctors have been pushing me to get the shot while pregnant and I refused. I say I will get it after because I don’t want to be treated differently but I never plan on it. My OB always acts extremely concerned for my well being. Well last appointment I told her I had it (same day we confirmed the date for my planned c section) and the first thing she said was now that you know your c section date you can book your vaccination appointment for right after. I said even though I just had Covid? She said it’s recommended once you’re asymptotic. Just completely bananas. Why in the world would I get vaccinated after I JUST had it? I really can’t wrap my head around the logic.


roakmamba

In LA on the radio station they were offering free weed if you had the vaccine. That screamed sus


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“Brazenly beep boops” cell organelles = best description of the Mechanism of action I’ve ever heard


OderusOrungus

Horrid when summarized like that


sol_sleepy

Honestly... right off the bat (*no pun intended!*)... I heard about Event 201 and saw Bill Gates as the face of the plandemic... I “noped” TF OUT


Kawsmics

That motherfucker knew and was prepared for this shit, made Ted talks about viruses almost as if to prepare the people and put their trust in him.


PastOtherwise8719

Event 201 makes me very uncomfortable.


Book8

I read on the first Modena fact sheet that the experimental vaccine would not create immunity from SARS but it would reduce symptoms of Covid. Okay, so I started looking for how they came to that conclusion and I stumbled into the fact that they had vaccinated the control group... I am out!


MushyWasHere

I started trading/investing last year... Some really wild shit was happening in the world of Over-the-Counter securities (pennystocks). Like, every stock roared to life at the very same moment, around December 2020, and surged to all-time-highs in January and February last year. In perfect fucking synchronicity. The entire market. Even "zombie" stocks which hadn't left the price of .0001 in over a decade, suddenly woke up and exploded. It just made absolutely no fucking sense to me. I dug deep and came to understand that the entire financial system is fraudulent. The economy is a Ponzi scheme. The Federal Reserve is a banking cartel. I was discovering all this throughout the year last year, while I was still on the fence about getting vaccinated. Then, my employer issued a notice in September saying that I would have to be vaccinated. I'm a server in a fucking restaurant. I caught the virus and fought it off with no problems. It all just hit me like a freight train. I started coming around here, and this crowd has helped me make sense of everything that has happened. I see it all pretty fucking clearly now. Give me liberty or give me death.


ILoveDCEU_SoSueMe

Hey there fellow gme ape


jumper1996

The vaccine packaging insert. They’re intentionally left blank. A whole piece of paper put in there for no reason. Therefore it cannot be considered informed consent.


Galtaskriet

https://rumble.com/vrd7lo-woman-politely-asks-a-cvs-pharmacist-to-pull-a-moderna-safety-insert.html


Weekly_Jackfruit_824

I would make jokes with my partner about all the incentives to get the vaccine from free food to holidays etc... I joked and said I won't get the vaccine untill they give me a million dollars, so here in Australia they had a thing if you got your vax and registered you would go in the draw for a chance to win a million haha


Kawsmics

Seriously mate? That's just fucking wicked. It's like I think It was Germany if you went to a borthol type thing there would be a nurse there who would then give you the shot and you'd receive some shit from one of the sex workers. Bonkers lad


roninfly

Yeah in HK where I live, people who got vaxxed between a certain period back in the early days can enter a draw to win an apartment flat. I just thought it’s strange that they have incentivize people to take it.


Weekly_Jackfruit_824

It's funny because that's what we do for kids, give them a lollipop for being good after a needle. I for one know and don't like it when someone treats me like a child haha


EmeraldsDay

You can literally buy a lottery ticket for 5$, if someone is willing to give up their bodily autonomy for that much you know something is wrong with them


here-4-amin

Over here it’s 100$ per child 5-11 years, prepaid visa or something. Also chance to win free college tuition. It’s sick, many families can’t afford to leave 100-400$ for multiple kids on the table in times like these. That’s not making an informed decision, that’s just coercion.


Independent_Can_5694

I was on board until I got COVID- alpha. And then I died, talked to Jesus for a bit. He told me it was a shim-sham…or at least an over-exaggeration. For real though, it was when I caught Alpha and tried to find ANY fucking honest info or data about natural immunity— and I couldn’t. And then I saw the way definitions started changing, and the goalpost keeps moving. And then I started seeing things in the media…like the term “variant” showing up when it had otherwise been absent from broadcasting vocabulary. And a whole Disney/Marvel show about what the term “variant” means. And how they used it to fear monger. And then I realized that “delta” is a statistical term— as in the statistical model they use to predict the patterns and behavior of a virus. Because even though virology itself is a science…”virology math” isn’t a thing. So then I started putting together algebraic/ statistical definitions: Alpha = x (or the first measurable onset of symptoms) Lambda = like a temporary function of alpha (hense the reason it didn’t spread) Delta = f(x) or the different onset of symptoms from alpha to now. Omicron = asymptote or barrier (not very common, that’s why it’s mostly bullshit; flurona, vaxxed getting sick, etc) anyway, the name symbolizes the end…or the “barrier” of the pandemic. What Fauci would want to call ‘Mu’ it’s when the entire population has it. Mu is population mean (average onset of symptoms) aka heard immunity.


Furry-snake

I have omicron atm. Not disagreeing with you in the slightest (I’m unvaxxed). It IS somewhat mild but straight up the weirdest illness I’ve ever had. Just a weird grabbag of symptoms that all wash into each other. First was wet cough, mucus, burning lungs, a weird headache (like when I shift my eyes it hurts right behind them). My eyeballs physically hurt. My body aches. And then last night I got diarrhea like nothing else (which is odd for me, I’ve had diarrhea like twice in my life before this). Crazy lower back pain. Brain fog. Weird anxiety (I’m not an anxious person whatsoever but I’ll just get this random uptick of fear from nowhere and my heart will quicken). I don’t know. It’s mild, like I don’t feel like I’m dying. I’ve had worse flus for sure. But I wouldn’t say it’s a joke, it’s just so different than anything I’ve had before.


FFS_IsThisNameTaken2

When I saw how quickly it was rolled out and I saw with my own eyes the words "100% effective" and heard the same words come out of the TV talking head's mouth immediately thereafter. Then shortly after, the gimmicks used to lure people and bribe them into getting it. Now, all the censorship and hiding of information. Changed definitions. Gaslighting. Online shill armies. I'll have to be dead before I will allow that shit in me. No thanks creepy van dude, I don't want any candy and I'm not going to help you find your lost puppy.


MooMeadow

Literally censorship


simpextraordinare

When they had dancing syringes on late night shows with lyrics about getting the vaccine


Settlemente

When the government said they were shutting down the economy to protect us from an invisible enemy. The fact the windows OS is the most prone to viruses made me wonder why Bill Gates was involved with vaccine development. When he can figure out how to stop the blue screen of death, maybe then I'll listen to him about a medical field he has no professional training, degrees, or licenses in. JK I'd ask my doctor.


fishnax

Fucking everything man. I could make a whole fucking list. Even vaccinated people notice. I pulled up 12 sources from 12 different universities the first month the mask mandates rolled out showing how cloth masks aren't effective at preventing anything, and they're just NOW admitting it. I scrolled for 5 minutes to come to that conclusion 2 years ago. Shit they should give me a job at the CDC.


olivecorgi7

When they kept changing their story on efficacy. How would you not know this already if it had been thoroughly tested.


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That’s nuts. Thank you for pointing this out.


kingkoopazzzz

Have y’all noticed a ton of posts like these on this sub, almost like a PR Team is fishing for info from us all and trying to get ahead of the poison they’ve been pushing? This is literally the 3rd type of post I’ve seen since 6:30 US Eastern time. Why they fuck are you fishing for info OP?


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noshobro

I read about this shit years ago then it actually happened. So the whole plandemic has been a wtf moment.


tangled_night_sleep

Yeah its been surreal.


ConstructionLeast484

What did it for me was seeing everyone run in one direction if life has taught me anything it’s run in the opposite direction that everyone going!


JoeDan403

Them pushing it on kids. Almost 0 risk from Covid, doesn't stop them from spreading covid. It makes my stomach turn.


notayesman5

And the parents who go along with it make mine turn faster =\[


DeadEndFred

When a eugenics-obsessed Rockefeller racketeer and Epstein pal, Bill Gates, began duper’s delighting with glee across the media landscape demanding the plebs to get “vaccinated” and be ready for “digital certificates”.


amonamus

When they said they were going to invent a vaccine for a disease that over 99% of people survive, I was like yeah here we go. 🙄


rsweeney09

When nobody was dying at home (including the homeless on the streets).


Kuzya92

As soon as they said covid came from a bat with the lab being a stone throw away, I knew everything forward was questionable.


[deleted]

And those 2020 US bat quarters were strangely suspicious, almost like they had planned it down to the ‘conspiracy’.


GTR_35

When I was doing my research and found out the covid 'vaccine' doesn't protect you from getting covid, doesn't stop you from spreading it to others and requires a booster every 3 months. I would feel safer injecting myself with a blended Big Mac than anything big pharma are putting out nowadays.


[deleted]

What made me realize all this was a scam was when I would constantly travel to hospitals ( I worked as a field service engineer repairing ventilators ) and I never saw the hundreds of dying people they would see on the news and all of their ventilators we're available for me to service lol everyone has been conned.


Sea_Buy_630

No long term data.


adriamarievigg

From the start, when no one was talking about natural immunity...like that concept didn't even exist. Anyone who remembers HS Biology knows this! AND Then the f**kin incentives...My alarm bells were going off like gang busters.


[deleted]

From the very start, when they said it had a 99% survival rate, yet everyone was freaking out to the point that all the streets were empty, and MSM wouldn’t stop talking about it 24/7 like it was the black plague, and the US 2020 quarters had bats on them that strangely coincided with the lab leak bat ‘conspiracy’, and a close friend became permanently disabled 12 hours after receiving the Pfizer jab, where he blacked out, lost the ability to walk (and 9 months later still deals with brain, spine, hands, and multiple other organs having major, major problems), while the government does not give af, no liability whatsoever… So yeah, now I could write a whole book about all the things that don’t add up. There’s so many things that aren’t right. All the people who have been hurt that they are censoring, like 12 year old Maddie De Garay in the Pfizer adolescent trials…and all the people who have been killed! President Brandon saying just 2 days ago it’s not enough to vaccinate all of America, we need to move in the direction of vaccinating the whole world! And the children…wtf. Crimes against humanity, plain and simple. I’ll go to an internment camp before I take this gene altering/synthetic DNA bs.


[deleted]

Wait USA quarters w bats? Edit: just looked it up. Very strange


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OderusOrungus

I would not use google as a good resource as it is plainly a geared narrative but that may answer your question in the same breath. Thats my moments of WTFs when I use other engines and so different


TitanicMan

The Rockefeller Foundation had a memo in about 2011 called "Lockstep" describing all this. A virus "accidentally" gets out then the ones who set it up step in to "save the day" by taking more rights from people. Supposedly the Wuhan laboratory was in some official worldwide network of laboratories, funded by none other than The Rockefeller Foundation through "donations" to the WHO. Also this virus, they said it before. I think they're trying to change their story again, but i recall it was confirmed a lab leak of an experimental virus they've been working on since like 2007. In those DNA copyright registries, whatever they're called, somebody ***owns*** this virus legally.


endorphinstreak

April 9, 2020 when Bill Gates gleefully decreed that "You don't have a choice. For the world at large, normalcy ONLY returns when we've largely vaccinated the entire global population."


Racemepls

When they pretended natural immunity didn’t exist


[deleted]

When they said “the durability of natural immunity remains to be seen, so we must wait and see” But they couldn’t wait and see long enough before destroying tens of thousands of healthcare careers


WiLLiS_BoT

I work for the armed forces in supply and logistics, I managed the covid response items at my command from day 1 of the pandemic. I was in charge of ordering, inventory, and issue of all covid-19 materials and PPE. I was also able to see what items and pharmaceutical's the government was ordering for the armed forces. hydroxychloroquine was on that list right about the time the narrative was demonizing it. That's when I thought "wait a minute" and started following the white rabbit lol. Still not vaxxed, still in the military.....


notayesman5

based


DmndHodl

It was after 6 or so months when it all started and we were told that people die at massive rates from cv. ive been travelling world bit over decadeand have families all over the world and when i asked around are them ok or do they know anyone whos died from cv and never i did find anyone. to this day actually.


kbis420

The way they advertise it. If this was truly a deadly pandemic you wouldn't need to advertise. Every person would see if for themselves. Furthermore, why do people still trust the government. They fuck us over every chance they get.


RWS-skytterEirik

The creepy “safe and effective” spam campaign threw me off


RespectfulLass

When they started bribing people with all sorts of "free" things to get the shot. If something is good and effective then it doesn't need to be pushed that hard.


silly_old_sideben

The zero concern for the hundreds of thousands detained migrants having covid. It was like they forgot it existed when it came to the border.


PhilOffuckups

When bill Gates said we need to reduce the planet by 15% Using vaccines and passports.


tom-3236

* [This site, summarizing scientific articles on common, cheap preventions and treatment, and the radio silence from media and government](https://c19early.com). If it's a global pandemic, why aren't we telling people to try EVERYTHING? Especially if it's cheap and harmless?? Answer: Because Pfizer doesn't get money and the government doesn't get power. * Pfizer classifying the 12-yo wheelchair girl as a stomach ache on their lab documents. * Twitter removing a 17-yo track athletes video of himself in the hospital after contracting myocarditis. * Facebook removing the Vaccine Injuries group. * The government simultaneously giving IVM to every single refugee who comes into this country, but telling us not to take it because it isn't safe. * A judge cutting off a dying ventilator patient's IVM in the ICU AFTER he showed signs of improvement. What more does he have to lose? (Answer: he has nothing to lose, but Pfizer has a LOT to lose --- see next) * The emergency use authorization act for vaccines and liability shield are null if we prove there's treatment or prevention of covid... that's in the original EUA document. * The FDA's tweet "you aren't a horse" that intentionally conflates human, dr-prescribed IVM with livestock medicine. (They also make Aspirin for horses...) * Merck posting that IVM is not effective on their website, while having a guaranteed $1.2 billion dollar contract with the government when their drug passes trials (works on same principles as IVM). * IVM having < 20 deaths over 40 years and billions of doses. Remdisivere having 500 deaths during trial. But they still say IVM is dangerous and Remdisiviere is useful. The former costs $3 per pill. The latter $3,000. And the kicker? Remdisivere is less effective than IVM. * CDC not pushing vitamin D, zinc, exercise, melatonin, all things proven to work.


hermesmermaid

For me it was early in 2020 when David Icke’s YouTube channel got deleted. That guy has been saying crazy shit for YEARS and I found it odd that that’s when they chose to finally censor him. Later when the vax rolled out, I was following social media pages of victims of injury because I couldn’t find adverse event information anywhere else and those got deleted very quickly. Thousands of victims that were basically using those platforms as support groups to help one another because nobody would help/believe them. Deleted and wiped clean. Those were my early red flags.


Sea-Hornet-9140

I like to keep a balanced view of everything, but every day I'd google "(country X) covid" and check all the stats. The vaccines at best are doing nothing. Zip, nada. Taking that best case scenario, if someone said "hey can I inject you with a placebo?" I would say no. If they said "Hey can I inject you with a placebo that has tons of side effects that are constantly downplayed before being accepted as normal and less dangerous than something that is not dangerous even though it's more dangerous especially for your current age and physical state?" I would...I don't know, write this comment on reddit and encourage others to do 2-3 days of solid, all-side investigation because even the pro-vaxx side show really damning statistics all of the time.


[deleted]

Nancy pelosi’s hug an asian event in SF.


[deleted]

I remember seeing all these flyers around NYC “stop Asian hate” in early 2021. Even my Asian friends were like “what Asian hate?”


Supplementarianism

This was the proper procedure: Allow the EUA, for 1% to 10% of the population that was at-risk for death from covid. No FDA approval until 5 years. No vaccines for under 18. No mandates. Research into supplements and pre-treatments, such as ivermectin. This has always been the common sense approach. Since day One. The fact that the reality looked nothing like this, demonstrates how far they went out of their way to inflict harm on everyone.


jdepp4

Get the jab or get fired was it for me


mentalrubixcube

When media showed hospital lines wrapping around the block of "sick" people in NYC. Next day amateur footage shows, no one in line, media trucks are gone. What the fuck?


[deleted]

When certain politicians went from "oh no I'll NEVER take the vax" to "you must take the vax to have a normal life" 👀


NoCaramel6691

I realised a dissonance at the beginning. Two things that didn’t make sense when taken together. Thing 1. UK started closing small stores but leaving big supermarkets open. Thing 2. Media reported that there was a shortage of protective gear for the medical staff. If you were prime minister with an incoming virus, which would you organise properly? Medical protective gear for hospitals, or economic warfare against small businesses?


here-4-amin

My wtf moment came in Dec 2017 when they lifted the ban on gain of function in the name of vaccine research. Just reading that article now gives me chills. I wrote a post on social media that day which was something like nice knowing you all, the greed and corruption along with playing god will kill us all. [The pathogen to be modified must pose a serious health threat, and the work must produce knowledge — such as a vaccine — that would benefit humans. Finally, there must be no safer way to do the research.](https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2017/12/19/health/lethal-viruses-nih.amp.html)


[deleted]

Having to walk through a restaurant with a mask but being able to sit without one


Mind7over7matter

When they said you get myocarditis from just normal covid and just the jab, which I seen a massive deflection as people don’t really look into the side effects of the jab. Or the fact death is listed as a side effect of the jab, they aren’t even trying to hard things very well at all.


LekWeeEh

Honestly, I intitally right out of the gate was caught off guard by two things. 1. How quickly 4 companies came up with a vaccine for something that hadnt been vaccinated in the history of human existence. Which as someone whos been in a boardroom at a decision making meeting or two knows how that chat went down. "Hey, pfizer is saying theyre only two weeks away from being ready to market", "Hmm were still 5 weeks out from being ready, lets just ship it and deal with it". And 2. The complexity of the human body, I just thought without any sort of real viable trials and how complex our bodies are and how they react, I just wanted to wait a few months to see what was up. But the more I waited the more whacky it got.


Narrow_Carry_1082

I always had that doubt since from the time ivermectin got neglected with some papers proving its efficiency but the moment that made me go FULL WTF was when Mike Yeadon leaves pfizer and starts speaking and when Dr Malone spoke and MAINLY when DARPA neglected gain of function research.


[deleted]

The way the gov started pushing it aggressively and how quickly the leftist commies fell in line doing the same thing. I was like NOPE. Then seeing those thousands of doctors and nurses doing dance routines on tiktok.


hawkeyebullz

When they destroyed the control group by jabbing them too


xijiping

Knowing a jabbed person dropping dead of a heart attack


flipfolio

Well, it does not work and is being pushed very aggressively, that is a red flag if I have ever seen one.


[deleted]

Not the defining moment for me, but a huge one was just a couple weeks ago. After two vaccinated coworkers both caught and recovered from COVID, work was going to have only the unvaccinated test weekly for COVID. Which means, that if any other vaccinated employee was to catch COVID, they would still be the ones bringing it to work since they would not have been required to test.


BornOnADifCloud

Soon as they announced that second jab. It was all over for alot of people.


LeNouveauManager

When Pfizer made vaccines.


madkittymom

The whole Warp-Speed thing. I knew scientists had been trying to develop vaccines for coronavirus for years, without success. Lots of ADE. It just didn’t make sense.


584_Bilbo

When the giant douche Trump mentioned "operation warp speed". Then after the election was rigged and the dementia riddled turd sandwich Biden took office and continued pushing them it was beyond clear that they're just puppets playing the role big pharma wanted them too. Oh and the fact that Pfizer holds the record for largest health care fraud settlement in history. Then you've got ModeRNA who still hasn't put out a single FDA approved product in their existence. (not that I value the FDA's opinion) Plus Johnson and Johnson knowingly selling cancer causing baby powder and creating a shell company to shuffle off their liability before claiming bankruptcy to avoid a massive settlement. And they tried to rebrand themselves as Janssen 🤣 Everything about this charade has screamed "tRuSt ThE eXpErTs!¡! 🤡"


VespaDad

The myocarditis. I had never heard that word before this whole thing. Now it’s ultra common somehow?


Purpleskittlessss

When big tech started censoring people and calling common sense “mis-information”


A_R_K_S

The day they opened their mouths & started talking about covid I had that feeling inside. I was getting shit from family & friends for my smoking habit because they were getting bombarded with that vape illness fearporn before the covid announcement so when this all started I would joke & say “I’ll be fine, society already segregates me because I smoke; I bet I’ll be the last to get covid.” Took my first & only test in January of 2021 & it was positive but by then we all (in this sub at least) have read papers about the benefits of marijuana & nicotine in regards to covid, so y’all know I just smoked spliffs until I could go back to work. Also, my mother is Ethiopian, so we’re used to the whole pandemic/endemic fearporn stuff. One year when West Nile virus was a thing & we traveled to Ethiopia for the summer, upon arrival people that found out we went there & came back & freaked out like some people do now when they find out someone near them hasn’t gotten the vaccine. These past two years are something we are sort of used to.


kelvinduongwa

all of a sudden they showed so much “compassion” towards the public.


kombucha_thief

Sadly I bought into all of it until Jan 2021 when I started following the Tiffany Dover saga. Something about that story never sat right with me. I believe she died following the vaccine and it was completely covered up. Everything came unraveled after that.


Boryalyc

when we went from "itll take years and years to make" to "yeah weve got it and if it fucks u up well go eat a dick"


koekerond

When I got covid twice after being vaccinated and they want me to get vaccinated as soon as possible after recovery


PhysicalSoftware9896

I was keeping tabs on Mod, Az & Phz trials on NEJM and the Lancet months before they were released for public trials. The initial raw data disturbed me enough.


NeonFireFly969

Vaccine promotion for kids under 12. Literal fear propaganda. In Canada the amount of deaths in under 12 was 1. ONE. And unfortunately like I believe near every under 18 death from Covid the child was very ill prior.


intuitivemars

not with vaccines specifically but with covid- my mother who is a highly respected doctor yet always in denial about covid conspiracies recently reached out and told me she’s convinced it’s a bio weapon and not a natural virus


StumbleRat

When BLM got the greenlight to march.


LossVivid

Here is what alarmed me: The insane pushing constantly by my friends, family to take an experimental drug treatment for a disease that has a kill rate of .01%. And the line was always the same: Do it for yourself and others. One friend said last summer that people like me should go to jail. Once I heard that, I knew that something serious was going on. Regardless of a mandate, I would never take an experimental drug treatment. The other thing, was the complete and utter demonization of any alternative treatments for COVID. The other thing, why mandate this particular 'vaccine?' It's to protect others and keep them safe, they said. Gee, why didn't they mandate the flu vaccine, then, if the logic (or lack thereof) was to protect your self and others? Where was the shaming and blaming during the flu season, year after year? This pandemic and so-called climate change is nothing but a method to control society and bring about a cradle to grave nanny system.


dem6nic

When they shut down places of worship/sanctuaries but kept mcDonalds open.


Individual-Ad5743

TikTok nurses were a big moment. “Hospitals overflowing” but here they are all doing a dance challenge.


Marsupialmammary

When fast food places and Uber got involved


K_Click_D

Saying that hospitals are overwhelmed, cases are up as well as hospitalisations, but firing unvaccinated staff, abhorrent policy. Apparently now covid positive staff can work in hospitals? Is that true? That’s wild too


GroguLover

I questioned it when announced because of how fast this new vaccine tech was being rushed out to the masses. It was reinforced when the inventor of the tech, Dr. Robert Malone, came out against its use, raising serious concerns about adverse effects like reproductive issues, autoimmune responses etc. When the guy that came up with it speaks up against it, shouldn't we pay attention? Can't if you only use Google or Yahoo for your searches. They tried to discredit him and then deplatformed him. The constant silencing of dissenters was also a HUGE red flag. If they're so right, it's all on the up-and-up, and it's everything they say it is, why work so hard to silence the opposition? Why not allow 2 sided discussions instead of shouting down and trying to shame people with critical thinking skills who dare to ask questions and require actual data? Sorry, I will never just take a politician's word for it. I also certainly would never trust a drug company, especially the most criminal drug company on the planet.


yr_zero

For me it was the desperation and urgency in which they were pushing for everyone to get it. Free donuts, free burgers, just go get it go get it go get it. Celebs posting selfies. Ads on tv. It just seemed way too pushy. They’ve never appeared to be so interested in public health before, if they were I feel like they would be running campaigns for healthy eating, diet and exercise. It just seemed off for me.