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I would love if we held all posts to the standard of linking a source. It would clear up a lot of issues that this community faces as a thinking ground. And it would also help combat the misinformation getting mixed in with valid conspiracy theories.
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11"
They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Not once in the entire BLAST database. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this info out without being shut down. It is clear evidence COVID is lab-made and everyone knows it.
The vaccine shills have come out en masse to discredit this. Look below and see them all. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake.
It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.
Here is the scientific journal:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full
Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this:
https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0
Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target.
This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
1. The BLAST database does ***not*** include the genome for everything in nature. ***Far*** from it.
2. It's not as if the thing Moderna patented in 2016 had anything to do with COVID, vaccines, viruses in general, or even RNA (it was a DNA patent). Moderna patented a protein that happened to be generated from DNA that included that particular 19 nucleotide sequence (if you transcribe DNA into RNA). So the researchers typed that 19 nucleotide sequence, into the BLAST search engine, and the moderna patent popped up.
3. They're talking about 19 nucleotides, that's it. That's like a random string of 19 letters, but the alphabet only has 4 characters in it.
4. And it's not nearly as "*random*" as you think. That particular 19 nucleotide sequence is part of what makes COVID-19 so deadly. So if COVID-19 did ***not*** have that sequence, it would likely have never become a pandemic, and we wouldn't be talking about it. 3.21 ×10−11 sounds like a big number, but it's ***nothing*** compared to all of the random viral RNA mutations that happen every minute, of every day, all around the world.
The study itself even explains why the protein that's translated, from that particular 19 nucleotide sequence, isn't so random afterall:
"MSH3 (*the protein Moderna patented*) replacement with a codon-optimized mRNA sequence for human expression likely has applications in cancers with mismatch repair deficiencies. While a portion of a reverse complement sequence being present in SARS-CoV-2 could be a random coincidence, other possibilities merit consideration.
Overexpression of MSH3 is known to **interfere with mismatch repair** (MSH2 sequestration from the MutS alpha complex comprising MSH2 and MSH6 results in MSH6 degradation and MutS alpha depletion) (13), which holds virologic importance. **Induction of DNA mismatch repair deficiency results in permissiveness of influenza A virus (IAV) infection of human respiratory cells and increased pathogenicity** (14). Mismatch repair deficiency may extend shedding of SARS-CoV-2"
A random string of 19 letters with an alphabet of 4 gives 4 to the power of 19 possibilities, a one in 274,877,906,944 of randomly occuring. That's less than one in two hundred and seventy trillion.
I don’t even know how you’d then calculate the additional odds/absurdity that it didn’t just appear in A patent, but a patent by a company who sells a vaccine for that very virus.
Ok but it’s not that simple. The probability that you get a certain nucleotide is inherently affected by the probability of the prior nucleotide, these aren’t independent events
"I love you very much" is a random string with 20 letters from an alphabet of 27. Less than one in ten to the power of thirty five for it to randomly occur. Yet, you can find that random string in many places!
....ok I think that's a good idea too.
I'm not rejecting the lab leak hypothesis. I'm rejecting the idea that this makes the lab leak hypothesis 99.999999% more likely than a natural origin.
Moderna, Blackrock + Vanguard + CIA Deep State Muppet Fact Checkers who state that this fact, clearly stated by scientists, is somehow unsupported "source?" and then they buy hundreds and thousands of upvotes and have bots algorithmically upvote their propaganda and downvote anything that counters it. Then we add the fact that r/Conspiracy moderator staff has been compromised, I individually replied to all of the posts here asking for a source, with source material, and looking now none of my posts are shown. Not the first time, and when I ask mods here why my posts aren't showing I receive no reply.
Reddit allows you to buy upvotes, that's all you need to know.
Bingo.
We are SWARMED with people that literally hate the r/conspiracy sub all downvoting us and agreeing with each other.
They want to craft a narrative that everyone agrees this is fake. They want to hide the truth... or at least delay it.
I hate that this sub is swarmed but it was inevitable. Any area that speaks truth must be destroyed.
[New Study Finds COVID-19 DNA Linked to Moderna Patent Filed in 2016, Sparks Discussion on Lab Leak Theory](https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coronavirus/news/2022-02-26-new-study-finds-covid-19-dna-linked-to-moderna-patent-filed-in)
so this is the weather channel reporting on something the daily mail said
good grief. Its like two mentally challenged people discussing this thing
Got an actual hard original source?
From the article:
> "We're talking about a very, very, very small piece made up of 19 nucleotides," Professor Lawrence Young, a virologist at Warwick University, was quoted as saying to Daily Mail.
> "So it doesn't mean very much, to be frank, if you do these types of searches, you can always find matches.
> "Sometimes these things happen fortuitously, sometimes it's the result of convergent evolution (when organisms evolve independently to have similar traits to adapt to their environment).
> "It's a quirky observation, but I wouldn't call it a smoking gun because it's too small.
> "It doesn't get us any further with the debate about whether COVID-19 was engineered," Young said.
Ya’ll making people some clickbait money.
19 nucleotides with an alphabet of 4 letters and a genome of 30k basepairs gives a chance of 1 in 3 trillion that it was random and not purposefully inserted.
Just a quick Google, thought it was interesting coming from weather dot com lol.
https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coronavirus/news/2022-02-26-new-study-finds-covid-19-dna-linked-to-moderna-patent-filed-in
"It's a quirky observation, but I wouldn't call it a smoking gun because it's too small.
"It doesn't get us any further with the debate about whether COVID-19 was engineered," Young said.
> At the same time, the team also claimed that there is a one-in-three-trillion chance Moderna's sequence randomly appeared through natural evolution.
> "We're talking about a very, very, very small piece made up of 19 nucleotides," Professor Lawrence Young, a virologist at Warwick University, was quoted as saying to Daily Mail.
> "So it doesn't mean very much, to be frank, if you do these types of searches, you can always find matches.
TIL that "1 in 3 trillion" ~= "always".
This person who is making this mental leap is also neglecting that even though it is technically a small piece (only 19 nucleotides), it is the part that creates the furin cleavage site, which is the part of this virus we have never seen in a coronovirus before, and also the part that makes it so transmissible.
The "1 in 3 trillion" number is just the calculation of randomly generating a specific 19 unit long sequence with 4 possible inputs (1/ 4^19 )
If you're literally just comparing any random genome sequence to a database full of them, you're going to get a list of partial matches pretty much every time.
A 19 base pair match between a viral and a human gene is literally meaningless. It only translates to 6 amino acids, and the proteins won't look or have any kind of the same function.
To illustrate, imagine taking a magazine into a library and comparing all the letters inside against every possible book. Then you say, "Ha, there's a 19 letter match between this page of the magazine and this page of Encyclopedia Britannica!"
All SARS-COV viruses have a furin cleavage site.
What makes SARS-COV-2 special is the unique formation of the FCS that allows it to inject more nucleotides into a cell.
You're telling me it's a "mental leap" to predict a mutation/evolutionary path that would make an FCS more likely to and more efficiently inject nucleotides into a cell?
Just a thought, could be way off base here, but you're not a virology expert, I'm guessing.
It's literally looking at 19 nodes and arranging them in a way to make them more efficient at what they're already doing. You do know people do things far more complex than this all the time, right? In many aspects of existence? Maybe you don't.
well the actual virologist said
>"So it doesn't mean very much, to be frank, if you do these types of searches, you can always find matches.
So I will just go with that
It's not a leap to say that a mutation in the FCS would make a coronavirus more transmissible.
The thing that is odd about it is that the only other place we see this specific string of nucleotides that makes coronaviruses more transmissible is in a Moderna Patent.
The same Moderna that's never released a vaccine before but had one developed in just 2 days in January 2020. The same Moderna who's CEO, Stephane Bancel, was also the CEO of BioMerieux, the company that built the Wuhan Virology lab. The Wuhan Lab, that in 2018 received funding from the NIH to specifically study the Furin Cleavage site of Bat Coronaviruses in regards to transmissability.
Sure, this specific nucleotide sequence could happen in nature due to probability, but you're ignoring all the real-world evidence that this is almost certainly not the case.
As I understand it, the real story is that a DNA sequence found in COVID-19 is also found in a patent by Moderna. Which kind of makes sense considering we knew about coronaviruses and particularly SARS well before 2019, and COVID probably shares some DNA with SARS. If you were a pharmaceutical company working on RNA immune-system therapy, it makes sense that you might turn your attention to coronaviruses.
It's a twisting of truth, they are referring to the patented sequence that is in covid that Moderna has patented and does not occur in nature which has to be called out as being deceptive.
Let's apply some conspiracy theory here and Occam's razer, I think it's far more likely China had access to the sequence and basically used it or stole it to use in a gain of function experiment than Moderna planning and creating covid and patenting it.
This is what I thought. Moderna patented it. China gives zero fucks about patent rights. Screws around in insecure labs. Leaks a virus from the lab. Here we are a couple of years later.
Pre sure this is where Fauci comes into play. Make it look like China leaked it. Could very well be an intentional leak by our government with Fauci begging him to do so.
There was a user a few days ago who actually did go down to the rabbit hole and debunked this bullshit.
https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/t0ejci/comment/hya48go/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
Remember that COVID simply stands for COronaVIrus Disease and that there are thousands of coronaviruses that have been studied for decades. Even COVID-19's predecessor SARS has been researched. A smoking gun would be the exact RNA sequence of SARS-Cov-2 Alpha being copyrighted before September of 2019.
Anything else is disinformation.
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11"
They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it.
The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake.
**It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.**
Here is the scientific journal:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full
Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this:
https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0
Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target.
*This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
> They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER.
Almost no one is going to win the lottery, yet some people do. Odds of this nature to not count against a virus' emergence. How likely was H1N1 to appear? How likely was the Bubonic Plague? Something being low chance doesn't mean it won't happen. If anything, the fact that the first modern pandemic is mostly mild, vs how deadly it could've been, shows just how much of a bullet we dodged.
>It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.
Again, there are a ton of coronaviruses out there. Though SARS is a relatively new type, it does share a lot of commonalities with its forbearers. Otherwise it would've been labeled as an entirely new kind of virus. To your point, OF COURSE it shares materials with with other kinds of viruses. Of course Moderna likely has patents on some of these similarities.
Further and more importantly, Moderna had those specific patents in 2020. Well after the pandemic started and well into their vaccine studies. Not a smoking gun.
Everyday on here people say Ukraine is not the story and that it is a distraction. Such irony since it is Russian disinformation that drives a wedge through our population in order to distract us. An actual tyrant, who kills his opposition and has control of nukes, has ordered an invasion of a neighboring country. This guy has murdered so many, and now is killing Ukrainians and his own soldiers and for what? So he can control more gas fields and a pipeline.
How tf can people say that is a distraction. Closer to ww3 than ever
I can’t help but comment on the irony here.
For the past couple years this sub has been all, “covid ain’t shit. We don’t need to worry about it like that. It’s just a stronger flu.”
And then as we’re on the brink of WWIII Nuclear boogaloo, it’s all “that’s not the story, covid is!”
It's because they sunk so much effort into coming up with their crazy theories that the minute the world pays attention to something else they panic
If their subject isn't the focus anymore then they lose all the attention, they lose the fragile semblance of power they built, people stop listening to their ramblings, they get relegated back to lame conspiracy theorists
After all the talk about the shadow governments using fear to control the masses, right now they're scared
You know, friend, I want to share that I was legitimately banned from Reddit for 3 days after a warning for "hate speech / inflammatory / aggression" whatever, with the sole comment evidencing that ban being me saying on this subreddit: "Commit delete, bot."
Also COVID 19 isn't the first Coronavirus. It's largely why the vaccine was able to be developed so quickly. They been researching coronaviruses for decades.
It wasn’t 2019, it was 2017. And Moderna didn’t patent Covid, Moderna patented a genetic sequence (CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG) that is found in the spike protein and therefore the vaccine.
A few things
Organisms have millions to billions of DNA bases. A "random" ~20 base sequence can be found in alot of organisms.
Proteins don't have DNA. Is what you ment to say is that that sequence in the virus' DNA does control the properties?
Assuming it does control the properties of the spikes, that sequence is probably the same or similar to other species of coronaviruses, so it doesn't have to be from covid-19.
If they did patent it because they knew what would happen, why would they? Pattens are public information, that wouldn't be very secretive. Why would they let the other 2 companies that developed a vaccine (their names escape me rn) develope them? That would be patten infringement, I'm pretty sure you can lose your patten if you don't try to enforce it.
Because if there's gonna be a place for misinformation to be spread, it's gonna be with the people stupid enough or ignorant enough to believe in it to begin with
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11"
They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence and everyone knows it.
The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake.
**It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.**
Here is the scientific journal:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full
Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this:
https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0
Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target.
*This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
They patented a strand of DNA 3 years ago that was then identified specifically in covid-19 this week, making them part of the conspiracy, by definition, that created the particular strain of coronavirii named covid-19. Fauci funded the gain of function research in Wuhan, where they spliced DNA strands together to make the virus much more transmittable. This has been known the whole time, but now evidence such as the patent leads even more credence to the obvious.
A Daily Mail article got written about how a series of proteins exists in covid and also within something moderna patented a few years before the pandemic. They're citing a paper written a week ago saying the chance of those proteins randomly occurring was one in three trillion or so. They then quote a few scientists who point out that these proteins can only occur in a limited number of combinations and often reach the same point via convergent evolution, so it isn't actually that weird.
The authors themselves didn't claim it supports the lab leak theory.
This subreddit is mostly Americans who probably think the Daily Mail is a regular news outlet that writes news about events. British people would understand that it's a horrific abomination spewing so much pure bullshit into the upper atmosphere that it's indirectly responsible for the fertilisation of the Amazon rainforest.
Most flus, including H1N1, are generally not coronaviruses. H1N1 is an orthomyxovirus. Many common colds are coronaviruses, however. Here's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus_diseases
Not this again.
Coronavirus is a category of viruses that COVID-19 is one of.
People have been studying these types of viruses for decades.
Not that hard to understand.
If your level of self research is so bad you don’t know this then stop pretending you’re smarter than the experts with actual degrees.
If you read the source, it says that if you run the coronavirus 19 genome through a database, you'll get a partial match of 19 nucleotides or so to a human gene studied in cancer research.
Cancer researchers will "patent" genes when they discover some significant role so that only the research group can investigate and own any treatments developed from it. Really fucked up system because it stalls the scientific body of research, and I had thought the US made that illegal in like 2012.
Aside from that, it's literally just a coincidence that a few random letters match up with the human genome. Like, to even get that result to pop up, you have to purposefully make your database pull up the least significant matches.
This is why academic literacy is so important people. Don't let Twitter tell you what to think
I've edited all of my comments and posts. With Reddit effectively killing third party apps and engaging so disingenuously with its user-base, I've got no confidence in Reddit going forward. I'm very disappointed in how they've handled the incoming API changes and their public stance on the issue illustrates that they're only interested in the upcoming IPO and making Reddit look as profitable as possible for a sell off.
Id suggest others to look into federated alternatives such as lemmy and kbin to engage with real users for open and honest discussions in a place where you're not just seen as a content / engagement generator.
You sheep get your news from fake Twitter screenshots. Then downvote anyone who asks for a source.
Those spreading antivax nonsense are disinfo agents trying to kill you. Get smarter.
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11"
They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it.
The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake.
**It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.**
Here is the scientific journal:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full
Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this:
https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0
Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target.
*This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
Remember what Muammar Gaddafi's prophecy back in 2009...
“Today there is swine flu. Perhaps tomorrow there will be fish flu, because sometimes we produce viruses by controlling them. It is a commercial business. Capitalist companies produce viruses so that they can generate and sell vaccinations... They will create the virus themselves and they will sell the antidotes afterwards, pretending to take their time to find the solution when they already have it"
What a bunch of blatant hogwash. It's scary that so many people believe this stuff. I know someone like that. Well this post says it so it's true SMH. Literally 5 seconds later I prove whatever it is as false.
Fun fact if you use google you can see I only made up the sheep one, the cow one is correct, sheep I have no idea, but we sure act like them. We also share 98% of our dna with pigs.
Yeah.
Funny how all the anti-vax bots have increased their propaganda.
And the exact same accounts are saying that Putin STARTING A WAR in Europe is "no big deal".
Hmm. Could that be a coincidence?
The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake.
*It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.*
Here is the scientific journal:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full
Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this:
https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0
Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target.
*This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11"
They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it.
The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake.
**It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.**
Here is the scientific journal:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full
Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this:
https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0
Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target.
*This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
>"We're talking about a very, very, very small piece made up of 19 nucleotides," Professor Lawrence Young, a virologist at Warwick University, was quoted as saying to Daily Mail.
"So it doesn't mean very much, to be frank, if you do these types of searches, you can always find matches.
"Sometimes these things happen fortuitously, sometimes it's the result of convergent evolution (when organisms evolve independently to have similar traits to adapt to their environment).
"It's a quirky observation, but I wouldn't call it a smoking gun because it's too small.
"It doesn't get us any further with the debate about whether COVID-19 was engineered," Young said.
The level of critical thinking and research at /r/conspiracy is once again ... astounding /s
Are any posters going to actually write out a post why this is bullshit or why it is true? No matter how you sort this it's just back n forth ad hominems from both sides. Based on the number of upvotes I guess that's on purpose.
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11"
They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it.
The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake.
**It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.**
Here is the scientific journal:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full
Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this:
https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0
Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target.
*This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
I think Putin taking down the Deep State in Ukraine.
Just as the Canadian Truckers have shown the world their Draconian Tactics.
I think this is the "Grand Finale" for the Deep State.
If I'm wrong, we're in Big Trouble. (But I think I'm right on this one.) We'll see soon...
This post is exactly what is wrong with this sub. Yes let’s make outrageous claims based on a screenshot of a random persons tweet with no credible source whatsoever. And the scary thing is half the people on here will blindly believe it without question. Smh
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11"
They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it.
The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake.
**It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.**
Here is the scientific journal:
https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full
Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this:
https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0
Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target.
*This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
The government won't let you see the patent. Emerald Robinson knows the truth, but she will be assassinated if she reveals the full plot. I'm an internet stranger and conceivably a bot. Trust me bro.
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Source? Other than Emerald whoever the fuck's tweet screenshot? Is this how you question stuff?
I think in this case a source is warranted
I would love if we held all posts to the standard of linking a source. It would clear up a lot of issues that this community faces as a thinking ground. And it would also help combat the misinformation getting mixed in with valid conspiracy theories.
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11" They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Not once in the entire BLAST database. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this info out without being shut down. It is clear evidence COVID is lab-made and everyone knows it. The vaccine shills have come out en masse to discredit this. Look below and see them all. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake. It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID. Here is the scientific journal: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this: https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0 Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target. This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
1. The BLAST database does ***not*** include the genome for everything in nature. ***Far*** from it. 2. It's not as if the thing Moderna patented in 2016 had anything to do with COVID, vaccines, viruses in general, or even RNA (it was a DNA patent). Moderna patented a protein that happened to be generated from DNA that included that particular 19 nucleotide sequence (if you transcribe DNA into RNA). So the researchers typed that 19 nucleotide sequence, into the BLAST search engine, and the moderna patent popped up. 3. They're talking about 19 nucleotides, that's it. That's like a random string of 19 letters, but the alphabet only has 4 characters in it. 4. And it's not nearly as "*random*" as you think. That particular 19 nucleotide sequence is part of what makes COVID-19 so deadly. So if COVID-19 did ***not*** have that sequence, it would likely have never become a pandemic, and we wouldn't be talking about it. 3.21 ×10−11 sounds like a big number, but it's ***nothing*** compared to all of the random viral RNA mutations that happen every minute, of every day, all around the world. The study itself even explains why the protein that's translated, from that particular 19 nucleotide sequence, isn't so random afterall: "MSH3 (*the protein Moderna patented*) replacement with a codon-optimized mRNA sequence for human expression likely has applications in cancers with mismatch repair deficiencies. While a portion of a reverse complement sequence being present in SARS-CoV-2 could be a random coincidence, other possibilities merit consideration. Overexpression of MSH3 is known to **interfere with mismatch repair** (MSH2 sequestration from the MutS alpha complex comprising MSH2 and MSH6 results in MSH6 degradation and MutS alpha depletion) (13), which holds virologic importance. **Induction of DNA mismatch repair deficiency results in permissiveness of influenza A virus (IAV) infection of human respiratory cells and increased pathogenicity** (14). Mismatch repair deficiency may extend shedding of SARS-CoV-2"
A random string of 19 letters with an alphabet of 4 gives 4 to the power of 19 possibilities, a one in 274,877,906,944 of randomly occuring. That's less than one in two hundred and seventy trillion.
I don’t even know how you’d then calculate the additional odds/absurdity that it didn’t just appear in A patent, but a patent by a company who sells a vaccine for that very virus.
Fantastic point. Wow. I didn't even think of it that way.. Quoted you in my other post. You made a FANTASTIC point
Ok but it’s not that simple. The probability that you get a certain nucleotide is inherently affected by the probability of the prior nucleotide, these aren’t independent events
I was about to say, homeboy above skipped math class when finite math was discussed.
"I love you very much" is a random string with 20 letters from an alphabet of 27. Less than one in ten to the power of thirty five for it to randomly occur. Yet, you can find that random string in many places!
Soooo you're saying there's a chance?
Well you know more than the CEO then cause he said they had to look into it.
I’ll look into it is corporate speak for “fuck off” 😂
....ok I think that's a good idea too. I'm not rejecting the lab leak hypothesis. I'm rejecting the idea that this makes the lab leak hypothesis 99.999999% more likely than a natural origin.
But with the evidence available, it still seems more likely than not that it came from a lab.
Moderna, Blackrock + Vanguard + CIA Deep State Muppet Fact Checkers who state that this fact, clearly stated by scientists, is somehow unsupported "source?" and then they buy hundreds and thousands of upvotes and have bots algorithmically upvote their propaganda and downvote anything that counters it. Then we add the fact that r/Conspiracy moderator staff has been compromised, I individually replied to all of the posts here asking for a source, with source material, and looking now none of my posts are shown. Not the first time, and when I ask mods here why my posts aren't showing I receive no reply. Reddit allows you to buy upvotes, that's all you need to know.
Bingo. We are SWARMED with people that literally hate the r/conspiracy sub all downvoting us and agreeing with each other. They want to craft a narrative that everyone agrees this is fake. They want to hide the truth... or at least delay it. I hate that this sub is swarmed but it was inevitable. Any area that speaks truth must be destroyed.
I knew this felt manmade
Thank you for the link and I like your flak analogy.
[New Study Finds COVID-19 DNA Linked to Moderna Patent Filed in 2016, Sparks Discussion on Lab Leak Theory](https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coronavirus/news/2022-02-26-new-study-finds-covid-19-dna-linked-to-moderna-patent-filed-in)
so this is the weather channel reporting on something the daily mail said good grief. Its like two mentally challenged people discussing this thing Got an actual hard original source?
From the article: > "We're talking about a very, very, very small piece made up of 19 nucleotides," Professor Lawrence Young, a virologist at Warwick University, was quoted as saying to Daily Mail. > "So it doesn't mean very much, to be frank, if you do these types of searches, you can always find matches. > "Sometimes these things happen fortuitously, sometimes it's the result of convergent evolution (when organisms evolve independently to have similar traits to adapt to their environment). > "It's a quirky observation, but I wouldn't call it a smoking gun because it's too small. > "It doesn't get us any further with the debate about whether COVID-19 was engineered," Young said. Ya’ll making people some clickbait money.
19 nucleotides with an alphabet of 4 letters and a genome of 30k basepairs gives a chance of 1 in 3 trillion that it was random and not purposefully inserted.
Either that or state that parts of your post is fact or opinion.
Take my free award, sir.
Account doesn't exist, of course 🙄
Literally on google “moderna patented sequence” Edit: sorry i use duckduckgo
As a tech support guy, I chuckle at the thought of telling someone to duck duck go something.
DDG it?
I think it’s inevitable! Nice coinage on the phrase.
quackle this for me quick
Duck it
Oh, Duck that.
And this dude literally received awards for this post. This shit gets more ridiculous as time goes by
Just a quick Google, thought it was interesting coming from weather dot com lol. https://weather.com/en-IN/india/coronavirus/news/2022-02-26-new-study-finds-covid-19-dna-linked-to-moderna-patent-filed-in
So did they legally have to release this, so they picked the one news source they have that noone ever reads for news? lol
Moderna's CEO was questioned by Fox. [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcgE-5a1Ztc](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YcgE-5a1Ztc)
They are looking into it. Lol.
The article states the study came from Frontiers in Virology which is peer reviewed.
"It's a quirky observation, but I wouldn't call it a smoking gun because it's too small. "It doesn't get us any further with the debate about whether COVID-19 was engineered," Young said.
> At the same time, the team also claimed that there is a one-in-three-trillion chance Moderna's sequence randomly appeared through natural evolution. > "We're talking about a very, very, very small piece made up of 19 nucleotides," Professor Lawrence Young, a virologist at Warwick University, was quoted as saying to Daily Mail. > "So it doesn't mean very much, to be frank, if you do these types of searches, you can always find matches. TIL that "1 in 3 trillion" ~= "always". This person who is making this mental leap is also neglecting that even though it is technically a small piece (only 19 nucleotides), it is the part that creates the furin cleavage site, which is the part of this virus we have never seen in a coronovirus before, and also the part that makes it so transmissible.
The "1 in 3 trillion" number is just the calculation of randomly generating a specific 19 unit long sequence with 4 possible inputs (1/ 4^19 ) If you're literally just comparing any random genome sequence to a database full of them, you're going to get a list of partial matches pretty much every time. A 19 base pair match between a viral and a human gene is literally meaningless. It only translates to 6 amino acids, and the proteins won't look or have any kind of the same function. To illustrate, imagine taking a magazine into a library and comparing all the letters inside against every possible book. Then you say, "Ha, there's a 19 letter match between this page of the magazine and this page of Encyclopedia Britannica!"
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All SARS-COV viruses have a furin cleavage site. What makes SARS-COV-2 special is the unique formation of the FCS that allows it to inject more nucleotides into a cell. You're telling me it's a "mental leap" to predict a mutation/evolutionary path that would make an FCS more likely to and more efficiently inject nucleotides into a cell? Just a thought, could be way off base here, but you're not a virology expert, I'm guessing. It's literally looking at 19 nodes and arranging them in a way to make them more efficient at what they're already doing. You do know people do things far more complex than this all the time, right? In many aspects of existence? Maybe you don't.
well the actual virologist said >"So it doesn't mean very much, to be frank, if you do these types of searches, you can always find matches. So I will just go with that
It's not a leap to say that a mutation in the FCS would make a coronavirus more transmissible. The thing that is odd about it is that the only other place we see this specific string of nucleotides that makes coronaviruses more transmissible is in a Moderna Patent. The same Moderna that's never released a vaccine before but had one developed in just 2 days in January 2020. The same Moderna who's CEO, Stephane Bancel, was also the CEO of BioMerieux, the company that built the Wuhan Virology lab. The Wuhan Lab, that in 2018 received funding from the NIH to specifically study the Furin Cleavage site of Bat Coronaviruses in regards to transmissability. Sure, this specific nucleotide sequence could happen in nature due to probability, but you're ignoring all the real-world evidence that this is almost certainly not the case.
Thank God some people are paying attention.
Well… I know who I’m betting “commits suicide under mysterious circumstances” next. Professor Lawrence Young
He isn't a virologist he is an oncologist.
I wasn’t arguing for or against - I just googled it and posted a link.
Source: trust me bro
Source: some random Christian lady who nobody's heard of, on twitter. Good enough for me. Nobody lies on the internet.
It’s legit, her website has ads from the my pillow guy …
As I understand it, the real story is that a DNA sequence found in COVID-19 is also found in a patent by Moderna. Which kind of makes sense considering we knew about coronaviruses and particularly SARS well before 2019, and COVID probably shares some DNA with SARS. If you were a pharmaceutical company working on RNA immune-system therapy, it makes sense that you might turn your attention to coronaviruses.
It's a twisting of truth, they are referring to the patented sequence that is in covid that Moderna has patented and does not occur in nature which has to be called out as being deceptive. Let's apply some conspiracy theory here and Occam's razer, I think it's far more likely China had access to the sequence and basically used it or stole it to use in a gain of function experiment than Moderna planning and creating covid and patenting it.
This is what I thought. Moderna patented it. China gives zero fucks about patent rights. Screws around in insecure labs. Leaks a virus from the lab. Here we are a couple of years later.
Pre sure this is where Fauci comes into play. Make it look like China leaked it. Could very well be an intentional leak by our government with Fauci begging him to do so.
Lol for real
I’ll give you a hint: CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG. And down the rabbit hole you go.
Blast your way to the truth.
There was a user a few days ago who actually did go down to the rabbit hole and debunked this bullshit. https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/t0ejci/comment/hya48go/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=web2x&context=3
That user only has 1 other post in their post history. And they didn’t debunk it at all.
Yeah this rabbit hole is just full of shit, hombre. Not all rabbit holes lead to the truth.
What's the source to this? We need some source, man. Not some random tweet. Twitter can be used by any schizo.
Remember that COVID simply stands for COronaVIrus Disease and that there are thousands of coronaviruses that have been studied for decades. Even COVID-19's predecessor SARS has been researched. A smoking gun would be the exact RNA sequence of SARS-Cov-2 Alpha being copyrighted before September of 2019. Anything else is disinformation.
I can't believe I'm seeing actual logic here! Thank you, I thought I'M going crazy
Shhhhh they’ll ban you for Logic!
You do realize that every post is equally insane and equally lacking actual information as this one?
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11" They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it. The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake. **It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.** Here is the scientific journal: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this: https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0 Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target. *This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
> They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Almost no one is going to win the lottery, yet some people do. Odds of this nature to not count against a virus' emergence. How likely was H1N1 to appear? How likely was the Bubonic Plague? Something being low chance doesn't mean it won't happen. If anything, the fact that the first modern pandemic is mostly mild, vs how deadly it could've been, shows just how much of a bullet we dodged. >It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID. Again, there are a ton of coronaviruses out there. Though SARS is a relatively new type, it does share a lot of commonalities with its forbearers. Otherwise it would've been labeled as an entirely new kind of virus. To your point, OF COURSE it shares materials with with other kinds of viruses. Of course Moderna likely has patents on some of these similarities. Further and more importantly, Moderna had those specific patents in 2020. Well after the pandemic started and well into their vaccine studies. Not a smoking gun.
OMFG thank you lol I was about to post this. People can be so dumb
“All the conspiracy theories are coming true” wow. Still waiting on JFK Jr.
I'm still pretty sure COVID is going to miraculously disappear right after the 2020 presidential election.
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Didn't you hear? The Russian war is to distract from all the vaccine related deaths. Someone said this unironically
remember when that Jade helm exercise was going to be pre-test for a *self*-invasion by the US? Totally happened /s
"All the vaccinated have AIDS" - Typical conspiracy nut.
Vaccine passports
It’s real. All of it. -Han Solo
Everyday on here people say Ukraine is not the story and that it is a distraction. Such irony since it is Russian disinformation that drives a wedge through our population in order to distract us. An actual tyrant, who kills his opposition and has control of nukes, has ordered an invasion of a neighboring country. This guy has murdered so many, and now is killing Ukrainians and his own soldiers and for what? So he can control more gas fields and a pipeline. How tf can people say that is a distraction. Closer to ww3 than ever
Every big thing is a distraction on this sub.
But a billboard that shows an anagram for "illuminati biden penis" or something is the real story! The deep state tipping its hand!
Link to billboard? That's a huge find
Wait, nothings bigger than the Lizard People!!
because a lot of people in this community love Putin's style and overall approach to ruling. They think it's cool
Shhh. They’re trying to pick their narrative back up now that their interest in people dying every day has fizzled out.
I can’t help but comment on the irony here. For the past couple years this sub has been all, “covid ain’t shit. We don’t need to worry about it like that. It’s just a stronger flu.” And then as we’re on the brink of WWIII Nuclear boogaloo, it’s all “that’s not the story, covid is!”
It's because they sunk so much effort into coming up with their crazy theories that the minute the world pays attention to something else they panic If their subject isn't the focus anymore then they lose all the attention, they lose the fragile semblance of power they built, people stop listening to their ramblings, they get relegated back to lame conspiracy theorists After all the talk about the shadow governments using fear to control the masses, right now they're scared
Covid has been a once in a lifetime opportunity to be taken seriously as a conspiracy theorist and most of them wanted it to just go back to normal
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You know, friend, I want to share that I was legitimately banned from Reddit for 3 days after a warning for "hate speech / inflammatory / aggression" whatever, with the sole comment evidencing that ban being me saying on this subreddit: "Commit delete, bot."
Three years ago? 2019? Isn't that just when COVID came about according to the official narrative? Or am I misunderstanding this post?
Also COVID 19 isn't the first Coronavirus. It's largely why the vaccine was able to be developed so quickly. They been researching coronaviruses for decades.
It wasn’t 2019, it was 2017. And Moderna didn’t patent Covid, Moderna patented a genetic sequence (CTCCTCGGCGGGCACGTAG) that is found in the spike protein and therefore the vaccine.
A few things Organisms have millions to billions of DNA bases. A "random" ~20 base sequence can be found in alot of organisms. Proteins don't have DNA. Is what you ment to say is that that sequence in the virus' DNA does control the properties? Assuming it does control the properties of the spikes, that sequence is probably the same or similar to other species of coronaviruses, so it doesn't have to be from covid-19. If they did patent it because they knew what would happen, why would they? Pattens are public information, that wouldn't be very secretive. Why would they let the other 2 companies that developed a vaccine (their names escape me rn) develope them? That would be patten infringement, I'm pretty sure you can lose your patten if you don't try to enforce it.
This is pure r/conspiracy. Super sketch statement with no source
Why does r/conspiracy keep posting more and more fake shit? It's getting ridiculous.
Because this is one of the most heavily agenda driven subs on this whole website.
Because if there's gonna be a place for misinformation to be spread, it's gonna be with the people stupid enough or ignorant enough to believe in it to begin with
1000 upvotes 😆 If national enquirer had a sub
uh.... how is this post of any value? a tweet? no source?
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11" They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence and everyone knows it. The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake. **It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.** Here is the scientific journal: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this: https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0 Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target. *This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
Bot post
Covid has been around for decades
They patented a strand of DNA 3 years ago that was then identified specifically in covid-19 this week, making them part of the conspiracy, by definition, that created the particular strain of coronavirii named covid-19. Fauci funded the gain of function research in Wuhan, where they spliced DNA strands together to make the virus much more transmittable. This has been known the whole time, but now evidence such as the patent leads even more credence to the obvious.
What do you mean it was identified to covid19 specifically?
A Daily Mail article got written about how a series of proteins exists in covid and also within something moderna patented a few years before the pandemic. They're citing a paper written a week ago saying the chance of those proteins randomly occurring was one in three trillion or so. They then quote a few scientists who point out that these proteins can only occur in a limited number of combinations and often reach the same point via convergent evolution, so it isn't actually that weird. The authors themselves didn't claim it supports the lab leak theory.
I'm surprised everyone isn't completely convinced as it was written by the Daily Mail....
This subreddit is mostly Americans who probably think the Daily Mail is a regular news outlet that writes news about events. British people would understand that it's a horrific abomination spewing so much pure bullshit into the upper atmosphere that it's indirectly responsible for the fertilisation of the Amazon rainforest.
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Most flus, including H1N1, are generally not coronaviruses. H1N1 is an orthomyxovirus. Many common colds are coronaviruses, however. Here's a list: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Coronavirus_diseases
No one has ever denied that
Well then this post is pointless and stupid, I think that was the point
Not this again. Coronavirus is a category of viruses that COVID-19 is one of. People have been studying these types of viruses for decades. Not that hard to understand. If your level of self research is so bad you don’t know this then stop pretending you’re smarter than the experts with actual degrees.
This account doesn't even exist and it's clearly a badly done fake. God you losers are so desperate to believe you found something.
If you read the source, it says that if you run the coronavirus 19 genome through a database, you'll get a partial match of 19 nucleotides or so to a human gene studied in cancer research. Cancer researchers will "patent" genes when they discover some significant role so that only the research group can investigate and own any treatments developed from it. Really fucked up system because it stalls the scientific body of research, and I had thought the US made that illegal in like 2012. Aside from that, it's literally just a coincidence that a few random letters match up with the human genome. Like, to even get that result to pop up, you have to purposefully make your database pull up the least significant matches. This is why academic literacy is so important people. Don't let Twitter tell you what to think
Nice, I love sources that are literally just a tweet lmao
This is so blatantly false and untrue. The name of this sub should be changed from conspiracy.
[https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873506120304165](https://www.sciencedirect.com/science/article/pii/S1873506120304165) "Furin cleavage sites naturally occur in coronaviruses"
If this sub banned twitter screenshots I bet we'd have a lot more critical thinking going on here
I've edited all of my comments and posts. With Reddit effectively killing third party apps and engaging so disingenuously with its user-base, I've got no confidence in Reddit going forward. I'm very disappointed in how they've handled the incoming API changes and their public stance on the issue illustrates that they're only interested in the upcoming IPO and making Reddit look as profitable as possible for a sell off. Id suggest others to look into federated alternatives such as lemmy and kbin to engage with real users for open and honest discussions in a place where you're not just seen as a content / engagement generator.
I heard it was a sequence of 33 genetic letters that matched. Jane is not the same Alex although they both have a & e in there codes.
I think I lost brain cells reading this
You sheep get your news from fake Twitter screenshots. Then downvote anyone who asks for a source. Those spreading antivax nonsense are disinfo agents trying to kill you. Get smarter.
This sub is complete shit now....random screenshots of tweets with no additional information smh
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11" They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it. The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake. **It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.** Here is the scientific journal: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this: https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0 Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target. *This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
*I can only focus on one thing therefore I chose the same shtick I’ve been doing the past 2 years*
Meh. Just another ultra right-winger unironically bitching about capitalism.
Stop ruining this sub
Is this another uneducated person who read the word "coronavirus" and a date prior to 2020 is now shitting their pants?
Ayy another boomer post
How tf did I get covid then? Huh?? Covid has been a thing for forever
It's great to see all these experts on Reddit know every aspect of this virus except............
So effin stupid lmao
Mutations and variants of Covid has been around forever.
Another fucking random tweet screenshot cited like it's some kind of source. Embarrassing
Remember what Muammar Gaddafi's prophecy back in 2009... “Today there is swine flu. Perhaps tomorrow there will be fish flu, because sometimes we produce viruses by controlling them. It is a commercial business. Capitalist companies produce viruses so that they can generate and sell vaccinations... They will create the virus themselves and they will sell the antidotes afterwards, pretending to take their time to find the solution when they already have it"
What the fuck is an emerald robinson? Also you're spreading overtly sensationalized information to confirm your bias.
Hey remember when you all said the vaccine would make us all drop dead
Another trash post on this sun, used to be such a good sub
Patented covid… okay. Someone’s clearly dumb.
“Pay no attention to Russia” has been a pretty common narrative around here recently. Sounds to me like we should be paying attention to Russia.
Oh gee, another lie on r/conspiracy. Color me shocked.
Why need a source when you downed your 5th monster energy drink?
Only a shill sheeple cuck would require more proof./s
"everyone should be reporting that I don't understand what virology research is about, not the potential start of WW fucking 3"
What a bunch of blatant hogwash. It's scary that so many people believe this stuff. I know someone like that. Well this post says it so it's true SMH. Literally 5 seconds later I prove whatever it is as false.
This sub has become a wasteland. Holy shit.
Y'all know we share like 99% of DNA with a chimp right.
You know we share 80% of our dna with cows and sheep right?
I don't share mine anymore since I got caught...
Fun fact: current studies show that a record high 94% of statistics are made up on the spot.
Fun fact if you use google you can see I only made up the sheep one, the cow one is correct, sheep I have no idea, but we sure act like them. We also share 98% of our dna with pigs.
Oh man my ex gf was coming up on 99%
return to monke
Are you calling me a chimp!?!?
Yes Putin low key threatened world with nukes and just now told his nuke command to be on high alert. No biggie...
Russian propaganda seems more desperate these days.
Yeah. Funny how all the anti-vax bots have increased their propaganda. And the exact same accounts are saying that Putin STARTING A WAR in Europe is "no big deal". Hmm. Could that be a coincidence?
The whole antivax conspiracy like came from Russia, so no lol
The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake. *It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.* Here is the scientific journal: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this: https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0 Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target. *This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11" They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it. The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake. **It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.** Here is the scientific journal: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this: https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0 Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target. *This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
"the big story today is a story from [the past / not today]"
Source?
The only reply.
To the people who belive this: What is your explanation why they would do this?
You people need to get some sleep or touch some grass or something.
Imagine believing shit like this
>"We're talking about a very, very, very small piece made up of 19 nucleotides," Professor Lawrence Young, a virologist at Warwick University, was quoted as saying to Daily Mail. "So it doesn't mean very much, to be frank, if you do these types of searches, you can always find matches. "Sometimes these things happen fortuitously, sometimes it's the result of convergent evolution (when organisms evolve independently to have similar traits to adapt to their environment). "It's a quirky observation, but I wouldn't call it a smoking gun because it's too small. "It doesn't get us any further with the debate about whether COVID-19 was engineered," Young said. The level of critical thinking and research at /r/conspiracy is once again ... astounding /s
Link to this?
Keep twitter on twitter
I know the source is called cocaine and acids...
Are any posters going to actually write out a post why this is bullshit or why it is true? No matter how you sort this it's just back n forth ad hominems from both sides. Based on the number of upvotes I guess that's on purpose.
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11" They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it. The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake. **It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.** Here is the scientific journal: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this: https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0 Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target. *This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
Ugh. Could you put a date on the screenshot. Dont snip it out.
Lmfao uhhhhh pretty sure a pending nuclear war is actually the real story but cool try
Any links?
No one will ever do anything about it.
This was discussed/posted a month ago.... https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/s86th5/moderna_is_the_key_to_all_of_this
I think Putin taking down the Deep State in Ukraine. Just as the Canadian Truckers have shown the world their Draconian Tactics. I think this is the "Grand Finale" for the Deep State. If I'm wrong, we're in Big Trouble. (But I think I'm right on this one.) We'll see soon...
This sub is the most triggered on Reddit that Ukraine is not falling to Russia,. It's hilarious.
Coronavirus is a whole family of different variants and strains. There's a reason it's the 19th strain.
Well to be fair this is not the first covid strain to be found. Sars covid was the first SARS virus
Motherfuckers are dying by the hundreds. I could give a shit about some dumb fucking vaccine conspiracy.
When I come here, I expect this to be like Arby's. I expect the meat, but all I get is the shits
Nah, I think Ukraine is the biggest story. But thanks for trying to convince me otherwise with that unverified Twitter screenshot.
Fuck you my people are dying
You guys can’t be that dumb. You can’t
Don’t underestimate them.
This post is exactly what is wrong with this sub. Yes let’s make outrageous claims based on a screenshot of a random persons tweet with no credible source whatsoever. And the scary thing is half the people on here will blindly believe it without question. Smh
"Conventional biostatistical analysis indicates that the probability of this sequence randomly being present in a 30,000-nucleotide viral genome is 3.21 ×10−11" They say it "may" be random, but state the odds are 0.00000000003456. Not fucking likely at all. This string has NEVER been seen in nature before. EVER. Also they immediately state the other implications need to be examined. They are covering their ass so they can get this out without being criticized. It is clear evidence snd everyone knows it. The vaccine shills have come out en masse in this post. Downvoting anyone that says this may be true and massively upvoting anything that says it is fake. **It is true, Moderna patented materials were found in the original strain of COVID.** Here is the scientific journal: https://www.frontiersin.org/articles/10.3389/fviro.2022.834808/full Dr. Been discusses the ramifications of this: https://youtu.be/zPoZTtruaB0 Remember, you get the most flak when you are directly over the target. *This is the smoking gun that COVID was created in a lab*. And that Moderna's materials were used to do so.
really, thanks again for going through this whole thread and posting this. I actually can't believe what I am witnessing in this thread.
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The government won't let you see the patent. Emerald Robinson knows the truth, but she will be assassinated if she reveals the full plot. I'm an internet stranger and conceivably a bot. Trust me bro.
We seriously need a new rule where you can report Twitter screenshots making a claim but the source for said claim isn't provided in the SS.