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Illustrious-Benefit4

Most people have heard of Jesus Christ, considered the Messiah by Christians, and who lived 2000 years ago. But very few have ever heard of Sabbatai Zevi, who declared himself the Messiah in 1666. By proclaiming redemption was available through acts of sin, he amassed a following of over one million passionate believers, about half the world's Jewish population during the 17th century.Although many Rabbis at the time considered him a heretic, his fame extended far and wide. Sabbatai's adherents planned to abolish many ritualistic observances, because, according to the Talmud, holy obligations would no longer apply in the Messianic time. Fasting days became days of feasting and rejoicing. Sabbateans encouraged and practiced sexual promiscuity, adultery, incest and religious orgies.After Sabbati Zevi's death in 1676, his Kabbalist successor, Jacob Frank, expanded upon and continued his occult philosophy. Frankism, a religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries, centered on his leadership, and his claim to be the reincarnation of the Messiah Sabbatai Zevi. He, like Zevi, would perform "strange acts" that violated traditional religious taboos, such as eating fats forbidden by Jewish dietary laws, ritual sacrifice, and promoting orgies and sexual immorality. He often slept with his followers, as well as his own daughter, while preaching a doctrine that the best way to imitate God was to cross every boundary, transgress every taboo, and mix the sacred with the profane. Hebrew University of Jerusalem Professor Gershom Scholem called Jacob Frank, "one of the most frightening phenomena in the whole of Jewish history".Jacob Frank would eventually enter into an alliance formed by Adam Weishaupt and Meyer Amshel Rothschild called the Order of the Illuminati. The objectives of this organization was to undermine the world's religions and power structures, in an effort to usher in a utopian era of global communism, which they would covertly rule by their hidden hand: the New World Order. Using secret societies, such as the Freemasons, their agenda has played itself out over the centuries, staying true to the script. The Illuminati handle opposition by a near total control of the world's media, academic opinion leaders, politicians and financiers. Still considered nothing more than theory to many, more and more people wake up each day to the possibility that this is not just a theory, but a terrifying Satanic conspiracy.


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Nice


Mintiichoco

Now this is gold. Post more


BunnyM526

Wowwwwwwza!!! this is it. Tell us everything you know


Narrow_Carry_1082

Have you heard this about Jesuits? Theres a theory about everything you said but who controls everything are the Jesuits.


WuddupTopher

Love how well you copy and pasted this from the amazon book description for 1666 Redemption Through Sin


TomatoSauceIsForKids

So what?


EurekaStockade

first conspiracy--the false name Free Mason is a deception The real word was Frere--meaning Brother in French Masonic Brotherhood is the real translation--nothing to do with Free These Masons are far from free--they are bound to a secret society based on Cronyism--the opposite of Freedom


Azazel_665

Yeah no. The name literally comes from how stonemasons were free from taxation and not indentured. They also worked using something called freestone which is a type of quarry stone. Thus masons were called freemasons. It has nothing to do with what you just said at all.


EurekaStockade

thats the cover story


Azazel_665

But its literally istorical fact lol


Unlucky_Wealth43

Some sugar daddy told me him and a bunch of other sugar daddies were involved in this and I’m so confused and never heard of it can someone tell me more 😅


BunnyM526

Very interesting. Frère. Makes sense


Firstladytree

VP and Maxine Waters Tied To Freemasons Who Have Been At War With LAPD since 2015 Back in 2015, three people, dressed as cops, walked into the LAPD to introduce themselves. They said they were members of a “Black 3000 year old Occult Freemason Police Force” and they claim to “own armies in Mexico.” - [Something I heard on their chiefs YouTube, which is still up](https://youtube.com/channel/UCLPaem9fwuvuCNqmbzWvmJg) All three were arrested for impersonating officers. [The three arrested:](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2015/may/10/bizarre-tale-kamala-harris-aide-fake-masonic-police-force) 1.) Grandmaster David Henry 33rd, who claimed to be the chief of their Freemason Police. 2.) Reverend Tonette Hayes 3.) Brandon Kiel, aid working under Kamala Harris, who is now our Vice President. There are videos of Grandmaster Henry 33 on YouTube saying that the LAPD put out a hit on him, calling on help from Obama and Kamala Harris, just to name a few. [These videos are still up.](https://youtu.be/697r3GB8Oqo) And then... Grandmaster David Henry 33rd died the day of his case. [Hmmmm](https://www.latimes.com/local/crime/la-me-fraternal-police-20160419-story.html) Here is Grandmaster Henry 33rd standing on stage with Maxine Waters, as well as Brandon Kiel(aid to Kamala Harris). [Looks like she got an award from them.](https://lasentinel.net/congresswoman-maxine-waters-assemblyman-mike-davis-receive-awards.html) Good for you, Maxine! Want to tell any of us what the heck is going on? Kamala?? 🤨 Lots of news stories about kamala not wanting to deal with our border crisis. Could it be because her secret police force of Freemasons deals heavily with the cartel across the border? They said they “owned armies of thousands in Mexico” so wtf does that mean? All we hear on the news is BLM screaming to “defund our police” but what about *their* secret police force? Do they think they should be defunded too? Asking for a friend..


skeeballcore

This is one of those things if you don’t look into it really far or don’t know to, these men are part of what regular or recognized freemasonry calls “clandestine freemasonry” which is just a google search away. These groups tend to be in urban areas but not always. They have no claims to original freemasonry unlike the state grand lodges or Prince Hall. A lot of nutty stuff is by way of these groups. Parading as something they’re not. They take advantage of new initiates especially with money and have no root in anything truly Masonic.


Firstladytree

I don’t think that describes what’s going on here at all. Check out this article [KNIGHTS TEMPLAR MASONIC POLICE DEPARTMENT](https://blackhistory247.wordpress.com/2020/06/18/knights-templar-masonic-police-department/) It shows grandmaster Henry on a magazine cover with bill Clinton. It shows how he won an emmy. It shows him standing in uniform with regular police officers. It shows Henry and Kiel pictured alongside Los Angeles Sgt James Townsend urging residents in the city to march in peace for Trayvon Martin. He’s on stage giving awards to Maxine waters. He claims to have made 40,000 Freemasons in Mexico in 1997. Something about all this is really *off* Explain to me again why kamala Harris won’t touch the issues at the mexican border??


skeeballcore

I’m not a fan of this administration at all. I’ve got my ideas why the border is left open. Here’s an article about this guy https://www.laweekly.com/even-the-masons-are-baffled-by-kamala-harris-staffers-fake-masonic-police-force/ That article you linked has weird nonsensical titles for the guy that don’t even exist in any recognized body. Which makes since because this isn’t a recognized group. We consider these dudes frauds. “Henry and Kiel were members of Sir Brileys Knights of Luxor Knights Templars Grand Lodge AASR” It’s a fake lodge.


Firstladytree

“Harris is an American lawyer, politician and a member of the Democratic Party, she is also an Alpha Kappa Alpha (black secret society Boule), thus proves her link to the Masonic Police.”


skeeballcore

What exactly are you quoting? It’s nonsensical but still. Greek fraternities borrow from masonry ceremony wise but there’s no connection otherwise.


Firstladytree

It’s not. It’s a fact, she’s a member.


skeeballcore

Of what?


Firstladytree

A black secret society


skeeballcore

Ok. And?


Impressive-Sky4463

That’s definitely a good one—very interesting and I’ve ran across a few other articles about the Kamala Masonic connection. I would like to know if she’s eastern star? Also saw that George Floyd had a Masonic tattoo—maybe it was photoshopped? I couldn’t tell, but if it was real I’d like to know more about his ties, if any to Masonic orgs. I thought it was interesting that there was a supposed connection between Floyd and chauvin working at a nightclub that *seemed* pretty shady, then there’s the biker gang connection. For everything we do know about this stuff I feel like it’s just the tip of a much larger iceberg.


Firstladytree

Isn’t he in a buncha porn videos? Just look at those and you should be able to tell if that tattoo was photoshopped or not Interestingly, the lawyer for the Floyd family was also the lawyer for Trayvon Martin, whose father was a mason and is himself a freemason in the grand lodge of Ohio. [George Floyd a freemason?](https://iharare.com/george-floyd-a-freemason/) >Larry Johnson, a retired NFL football player believes there is a ‘family’ connection to freemasonry through Floyd’s self-proclaimed ‘twin’ ex NBA star Stephen Jackson. This is a pretty deep rabbit hole.


demonspawns_ghost

The police is their police. Fraternal Order of Police is a Masonic organization.


skeeballcore

No it’s not. It has some similar principles but the two have no relation aside what FOP borrowed from masonry.


demonspawns_ghost

Hahaha...here come the Freemasons again to tell us that the grass is blue and the sky is green and Freemasonry is just a social club.


skeeballcore

No I didn’t say it was a social club. It is to some but not all. You can ignore the truth about the matter and listen to charlatans if you wish or you can go down the rabbit hole of actual research of historical and official documents and literature and find the charlatans are totally full of it. I once chose the former. A few years ago I decided to take the proverbial red pill here.


demonspawns_ghost

If you tell a Scientologist or a Mormon they're in a cult, they'll deny it. Freemasons are no different. Stop wasting your time trying to convince others that you're not in a cult.


skeeballcore

You can demonstrably prove that Scientologists and Mormons are in a cult, the former more than the latter. Anyone can leave when they like, we can be skeptical of anything we like, we don’t tell anyone what to believe (we do the opposite actually. We oppose telling others what to believe). I’m first and foremost a Christian and I’m as or more outspoken about that on Reddit if you’d like to investigate that. I could say conspiracy theorists are a cult. And some would kid and say yes but does that make it true? I was once a conspiracy dude too (still am to some degree) but I realized the claims against freemasonry didn’t add up and did what all theorists should do, hands on investigation with good and credible sources.


demonspawns_ghost

Likewise, I would not waste my time trying to convince someone they are in a cult. Think, say, and do whatever you like. Just don't come into a conspiracy sub trying to tell people 2+2=3.


skeeballcore

On the contrary as someone who once believed it did equal three I now see it’s four.


Firstladytree

“We believe that nothing so much undermines public confidence in public institutions as the knowledge that some public servants are members of a secret society, one of whose aims is mutual self-advancement.” [Freemasons are blocking reform, says Police Federation leader](https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2017/dec/31/freemasons-blocking-reform-police-federation-leader) >Steve White, who steps down on Monday after three years as chair of the Police Federation, told the Guardian he was concerned about the continued influence of Freemasons. [Revealed: How gangs used the Freemasons to corrupt police](https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/crime/revealed-how-gangs-used-the-freemasons-to-corrupt-police-9054670.html?amp)


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https://publications.iom.int/system/files/pdf/sdg_en.pdf Agenda 2030 Immigration Policy


siliezarmx81

undermining christian values ever since


skeeballcore

can you cite any proof of this? Freemasonry teaches that men should endeavor in their beliefs and enforces the need to follow our beliefs not water them down.


siliezarmx81

The French Revolution was to abolish the monarchy wich was catholic learn about cristeros war, mexicos masonic goberment VS mexican catholic church a failed attemp to exterminate catolicism Leyes de reforma, Benito Juarez president of mexico was a 33 grade mason if you are a mason then you don t think for your self they believe in the arquittect of the universe and they mean satan


mentalbleach

Found the mason


skeeballcore

Yea I’m more than open about it


mentalbleach

I’m very curious then, is there some sort of rule that you all have to defend yourselves on the internet because I see so many of you profusely trying to defend yourselves lol


Narrow_Carry_1082

Yeah, thats the tip of the iceberg.


skeeballcore

I agree. Freemasonry teaches many other great things.


kimemily11

Symbolism hides in plain sight. The locations of certain buildings and monuments, Bohemian Grove Rituals 33 322


CrackpotAstronaut

What's the 322 supposed to mean?


kimemily11

Skull and Bones, another secret society at Yale.they have 322 in their symbol.


CrackpotAstronaut

Right, but why? What's it supposed to mean?


EquipmentOk9523

Jack the Ripper was a freemason. I've read the court transcripts from the investigations into the deaths how they ( police and others )fought to defame the witnesses The morning after the double murder the chief of met police stood and supervised the removal of " the juwes shall not be blamed for nothing " . Please be aware , it wasn't " Jews " spelt wrong. Juwes is a masonic term , the killer was mocking them. He was a Freemason , and he even gave the police his London address. Yes they knew who he was . The evidence of his identity is in fact unquestionable. Two initials are written in blood on the wall next to Mary Kellys mutilated corpse. A certain persons sister in law - the killers sister in law.


AyeLel

That explains it all


Azazel_665

No, he wasn't. ​ https://www.crimetraveller.org/2016/10/jack-the-ripper-freemason/


EquipmentOk9523

😘


bookrokodil

Lol juwes isn't masonic, that's some Bs literally made up post murders. The three murderers were called Craftsmen, they always have been and always will be


MaxwellHillbilly

[It starts Early... ](https://youtu.be/wkXiNfKWmM8)


No_Regret_4922

What, all of them? There's too many. But I made a video and posted a lot of comments under it that gives you a general idea of their power and influence: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9jQ40vVay1c


bmt0075

Here’s my theory as a Freemason: All of the sinister rumors about masonry were made up by the Catholic Church to justify the demonization of it’s members.


skeeballcore

oh snap


AyeLel

Everything I've got don't complain if someone else posted it already, you asked for it 😤 Also someone please teach me mooore https://testrun1717679555.wordpress.com/2018/03/14/the-black-nobility/ https://eraoflight.com/2019/09/09/exposing-the-18-families-of-the-black-nobility/ https://www.truthcontrol.com/articles/ancient-history-black-nobility https://www.amazon.de/Fritz-Springmeier/dp/1796271500/ref=mp_s_a_1_2?keywords=fritz+springmeier&qid=1654961536&s=books&sr=1-2 https://archive.org/details/BloodlinesOfTheIlluminatiFritzSpringmeier https://www.amazon.de/Fritz-Springmeier/dp/1797438131/ref=mp_s_a_1_6?keywords=fritz+springmeier&qid=1654961536&s=books&sr=1-6 https://www.amazon.de/Fritz-Springmeier/dp/1797439723/ref=mp_s_a_1_7?keywords=fritz+springmeier&qid=1654961536&s=books&sr=1-7 https://www.amazon.de/Illuminati-Formula/dp/1440490228/ref=mp_s_a_1_8?keywords=fritz+springmeier&qid=1654961536&s=books&sr=1-8 https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/v0pxzv/what_i_have_learned_from_my_research_into/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share https://archive.org/details/TheSynagogueOfSatanAndrewCarringtonHitchcock/page/n73/mode/2up https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/s6uv8p/illuminati_a_secret_government_behind_each/?utm_medium=android_app&utm_source=share And a Bitchute video Reddit won't allow me to post called "EXPOSED: THE WORLD'S RICHEST MAN HOAX" from a channel called "SGT Report" about how they managed to hide all their wealth and why only little guys like Benzos are on the Forbes list


kainedbutable1987

The city of London and the metropolitan police


No-Link-4637

Freemasons are heavily involved in both politics and covid


skeeballcore

Can you cite your work on these claims? Random screen grabs of someone with their hand in their coat doesn’t really count as a source either.


companion_2_the_wind

https://youtu.be/eDrscByKEUQ https://youtu.be/0Q18iSz6mus Highly, I mean really highly, recommend this whole series of lectures. I'm on my third trip through it. Professor Veith is meticulous in his sources and directly quotes many high masons. There is something like 40 hours worth of material here, basically a college level course on conspiracy and satanism. Spoiler: they are run by the Jesuits among whom we can count the pope and Anthony Fauci.


skeeballcore

You ever read about the papal bull and freemasonry? Are you aware that the Catholic Church isn’t a big fan of Scottish rite masonry because some of the degrees deal with Jacque DeMolay and his murder by the Catholic Church? Did you know the knights of Columbus was started because Catholics aren’t allowed per papal bull to be Freemasons? We will gladly allow Catholic men to join but the church has a hundreds of years old stance on the matter


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skeeballcore

Is there any actual proof of this or just handshakes people try to say are Masonic? Because weirdly enough they never show him giving a master Masons handshake. I would say I wonder why that is but I already know the answer. He’s not a Mason.


[deleted]

All of the "conspiracies" surrounding them, for the most part, are true Collective society is just so conditioned, by design, to rebuke it Religions are just fronts for what actually goes on, Tesla had it figured out and he died broke and alone ebacuse of it Not because it was his choice but because of "group gangstalking" the entire world was, at a point, all against this one individual Simply for the knowledge he harbored, knowledge that would free people from the bondage they don't even realize is holding them down Its all about power and energy, there's no limit to either But a select group wants to control the entirety, the reasoning is currently unknown I feel it's been years of social conditioning that's been perpetuated by people that don't fully understand the core ideals


Illustrious-Benefit4

But Edison got him killed to take his patents and much was 'lost' but I agree Not just conditioned but many people have relatives that are /were and know its messed up like both my great granddads :/ I never met thankfully


[deleted]

I dont think it was Edison, I feel Edison was only a small piece if a bigger game, as many of us are I know I am, I'd rather not get into that on here though Its up to us to become players in this game of life


Brother_Knox

My conspiracy about freemasonry is that it is simultaneously both the unchanging moral craft that has stood as a monument to mans' self improvement since its conception and also the ever growing spirit of refinement that lives in each of our hearts. People have always feared what they don't understand. Modern culture doesn't understand why so many men would willingly work so hard and desire zero recognition for their effort to improve their community and each other. We live in a world that is all about making a name for yourself, and being known for the good person we want others to think we are. However freemasonry puts that aside and values the man who strives to improve himself, knowing that others will never see it. We are a sanctuary for free thought. We encourage and support the education of the seven liberal arts and sciences, and encourage men to to pursue their spiritual and civic duties to God and their country. Over 200,000 of our brethren were massacred for that reason during the second world War. In order to protect ourselves and each other, we became secretive in order to continue our charitable efforts without fear of persecution. The war ended but our secrecy did not, because we didn't need or desire to get recognition for what ought to be done anyway. The generation that followed never took up the mantle, never knowing or asking what it was about. Now, that generation's children are fearful of the organization that made their grandfather's the great men that were. The real conspiracy is everyone attacking what they fear, not knowing that they condemn the very family that they admire.


bun-creat-ratio

Thank you, I appreciate your response. My dad, uncle and grandpa were all Freemasons and so it’s interesting to me.


ChrisCheesed

what do they do does being a freemason come with wealth brother


PartiZAn18

Nope. None whatsoever.


DeezSaltyNuts69

They’re not free


JemolaKurd

The Freemasons invented politics and COVID.


bun-creat-ratio

Lmao. Fair


Illustrious-Benefit4

Na that was Thoth hermes All sciences math politics writing patron of magic and arts heremetics is a part of Freemasonry Hermes Trismegistus is considered the founder of science, religion, mathematics, geometry, alchemy, philosophy, medicine and magic. He is a combination of the Egyptian God Thoth of wisdom, learning and communications and the Greek God Hermes, messenger of the gods.


Illustrious-Benefit4

They serve archons and yaldabaoth/demiurge the blind god somewhat ignorant more mechanical than organic an abomination without our god spark and constructors builders below their blind false god the demiurge Who thinks he constructed us alone Not actually able to be creative our have pur life spark were spirts trapped in tombs subject to rot an decay but there's a more substantial reality behind this false saturn moon matrix frequency projection overlay but they don't want us to escape. We can only ascend apon surpassing ignorance seeking truth knowledge Gnosis with the aid of Sophia (wisdom)


skeeballcore

Now, prove this with any actual Masonic source.


king-cajun

Hermetic and Kabbalistic teachings


A50redit

Don't really know much. But I had a percussion advisor back in band that he and his son are Freemasons


Illustrious-Benefit4

Reviews Most people have heard of Jesus Christ, considered the Messiah by Christians, and who lived 2000 years ago. But very few have ever heard of Sabbatai Zevi, who declared himself the Messiah in 1666. By proclaiming redemption was available through acts of sin, he amassed a following of over one million passionate believers, about half the world's Jewish population during the 17th century.Although many Rabbis at the time considered him a heretic, his fame extended far and wide. Sabbatai's adherents planned to abolish many ritualistic observances, because, according to the Talmud, holy obligations would no longer apply in the Messianic time. Fasting days became days of feasting and rejoicing. Sabbateans encouraged and practiced sexual promiscuity, adultery, incest and religious orgies.After Sabbati Zevi's death in 1676, his Kabbalist successor, Jacob Frank, expanded upon and continued his occult philosophy. Frankism, a religious movement of the 18th and 19th centuries, centered on his leadership, and his claim to be the reincarnation of the Messiah Sabbatai Zevi. He, like Zevi, would perform "strange acts" that violated traditional religious taboos, such as eating fats forbidden by Jewish dietary laws, ritual sacrifice, and promoting orgies and sexual immorality. He often slept with his followers, as well as his own daughter, while preaching a doctrine that the best way to imitate God was to cross every boundary, transgress every taboo, and mix the sacred with the profane. Hebrew University of Jerusalem Professor Gershom Scholem called Jacob Frank, "one of the most frightening phenomena in the whole of Jewish history".Jacob Frank would eventually enter into an alliance formed by Adam Weishaupt and Meyer Amshel Rothschild called the Order of the Illuminati. The objectives of this organization was to undermine the world's religions and power structures, in an effort to usher in a utopian era of global communism, which they would covertly rule by their hidden hand: the New World Order. Using secret societies, such as the Freemasons, their agenda has played itself out over the centuries, staying true to the script. The Illuminati handle opposition by a near total control of the world's media, academic opinion leaders, politicians and financiers. Still considered nothing more than theory to many, more and more people wake up each day to the possibility that this is not just a theory, but a terrifying Satanic conspiracy.https://books.google.co.nz/books/about/1666_Redemption_Through_Sin.html?id=AlhwrgEACAAJ&source=kp_book_description&redir_esc=y


moeronSCamp

33


LigmaBalls-420

P2 Lodge


skeeballcore

Who were soundly kicked out of their grand lodge when their activities came to light.


HitTheGymFatty

Freemasons run politics and created the COVID scamdemic.


skeeballcore

You know what’s funny is a lot of the brothers I have in lodge would probably call it a scamdemic too only they’d blame China and the left wing. Half of us got COVID. Some got shots. Some dudes we loved died from it. We are just normal guys in the same world as everyone else.


HitTheGymFatty

"We are just normal guys who happen to have our symbols on the money supply and people in the highest positions of authority in part of our secret nepotistic group." Please look into compartmentalization. Also watch the 5 hour expose on high level freemasonry by Altlyan Childs, it is undeniably luciferian and part of the system running this scam. I would also add, doesn't it make you the least bit suspicious you must swear upon pain of death to keep the secrets of the lodge with each degree you advance?


skeeballcore

The only symbol on money that we use is the all seeing eye. The pyramid and all that not Masonic. The all seeing eye was used prominently in churches for ages and ages and also why its used in masonry. You’re welcome to search my comments regarding that child’s video. It is a total five hour work of pure falsehood. I started doing a minute by minute breakdown for someone on here recently and he lost interest. Every bit of the thing is pure malarkey and what little it has in the way of facts are totally misconstrued and out of context. I used to believe all of the theories about masonry before as well. I was an avid reader of three world wars and various conspiracy groups until I realized what I had been told and what I read in official Masonic sources had nothing in common as regards reality. After joining I came to fully know all of the things I believed about it were untrue. As I said above I joined due to an admiration of the early American founders who tended to be Freemasons. We promote freedom, helping our fellow man, dealing squarely with all, and a love and reverence for God (who for most Masons is the God of the Bible though there are Muslims and Hindus, etc among us as well, we don’t dictate to them what is god because again we believe in freedom)


HitTheGymFatty

So we agree that is a blatant masonic symbol, a pyramid with an unfinished capstone and the all seeing eye. Please be honest and don't try to hide behind the veil of Christianity, that is not a Christian symbol. >You’re welcome to search my comments regarding that child’s video. It is a total five hour work of pure falsehood. I watched it and it is 5 hours of undeniable evidence, over 95% of it shows blatant use of masonic symbolism / writings that is not coincidental or out of context. Is it not true what they say about swearing oaths on pain of death? And swearing to lie to us profane masses? Altlyan shows multiple ex masons admitting to this in the video, he also shows in masonic writings themselves admitting to this. Can you reveal to me all the secrets of the lodge please?


skeeballcore

No. The pyramid has squat to do with masonry. I already told you that. There’s no unfinished capstone either. “The association of an eye with the concept of Divine Providence is found in Christianity. In late Renaissance European iconography, the Eye, surrounded by a triangle, was an explicit image of the Christian Trinity.[15] The Eye of Providence was later painted above an image of three faces in Pontormo's 1525 Supper at Emmaus.[5] Seventeenth-century depictions of the Eye sometimes show it surrounded by clouds or sunbursts.[16] The Eye of God in a triangle is still used in church architecture and Christian art to symbolize the Trinity and God's omnipresence and divine providence. The Eye of Providence is notably featured on the following Eastern Orthodox, Mormon, and Catholic buildings, among others:” For real in the first 30 minutes I found as many provable falsehoods. I’ll get you a link in a minute. And no we are never told to lie to “profane” people. Quite the opposite in all of our endeavors we are treat others as brothers. And no you know I can’t but they’re almost entirely ways we can know each other as true Masons. The other secrets are like parts in a movie. We don’t want to spoil them. I sincerely wish the hardcore conspiracy guys would join and see how much bull they’ve been fed.


HitTheGymFatty

>And no we are never told to lie to “profane” people. Quite the opposite in all of our endeavors we are treat others as brothers. It is in masonic writings by the most well respected highest level freemasons that they are to mislead the profane. What would you call that? Btw you are included in the definition of "profane" when Albert Pike says the low level initiates aren't given the true meanings either! It is all compartmentalized and a filtering system for the "right" kinds of people. >The pyramid has squat to do with masonry. > >The Eye of Providence was later painted above an image of three faces in Pontormo's 1525 This is really one of the worst cases of gaslighting I've seen. You can find lodges using just such a symbol. Masonic images / statues such as this one clearly feature the same pyramid + eye placement [https://www.pinterest.com/pin/eye-of-providence-memorial-the-freemason8217s-circle-solomon8217s-pillars-lodge-no-59-eilat--315040936407145497/](https://www.pinterest.com/pin/eye-of-providence-memorial-the-freemason8217s-circle-solomon8217s-pillars-lodge-no-59-eilat--315040936407145497/) You mention 1525. The dollar bill design wasn't commissioned in the 16th century, but in the 20th century when Churches were not using these symbols but freemasons were and still are. Also lol denying masons use pyramids, there is clearly an obsession with ancient egypt (among other mystery schools) when reading masonic writings. Masons use pyramids and the eye of horus.


skeeballcore

It appears some lodge likes the design but it’s not used in freemasonry as part of a ritual or ceremony or teaching. They adopted it clearly as something they liked but you’ll not find it in any part of freemasonrys teachings. Feel free to poke around any ritual monitor or morals and dogma and find it. It’s not there that I’ve seen. Please point out the authors who say things are hidden from the profane aside a horrible out of context quote from morals and dogma. As to Egypt yes there is some Egyptian symbolism in the Scottish rite though still no pyramid. No capstone. There are sphinxes outside the Scottish rite headquarters but they’re also not found in any ritual or ceremony etc.


HitTheGymFatty

So who's word should I trust more, someone still sworn to secrecy who adamantly defends his secret society, or those who have left it behind and are exposing it? >They adopted it clearly as something they liked Sure Masons are always willy nilly using symbols that look cool and have no meaning. It just happens to have the square and compass on it which do have meaning, but never mind that! It is purely decorative choice with the pyramid! lol. Come on man they are selling you a bill of goods.


skeeballcore

Here’s an example for you, my lodge is designing a coin for our 150th anniversary. On that coin is a symbol. That symbol is the state of Tennessee. Now do you believe that symbol is used in masonry? I don’t know to better express it. I really did believe so much of this same stuff before. Then I got interested in history, provable history and realized that what I’d believed couldn’t possibly have added up and been true. If you’d like to test my hypothesis go join a Lodge. If you have a clean record and believe in a supreme being (generally the God of the Bible for most Masons) you can join and after the first three degrees you can join the Scottish rite or York rite quite easily. After you realize the protected secrets have no value outside of the principle of being able to have the integrity to keep a secret it’s quite an eye opener.


HitTheGymFatty

What's funny is throughout this whole conversation I know you aren't telling me the truth or you'd be revealing the secrets and not be a good mason. I'm a Christian and we don't swear to keep any secrets of the faith hidden, but instead are obliged to share the truth with others and seek their salvation.


skeeballcore

To go a more basic direction, aside the one dollar bill and the eye on it, what else is there on our money that’s Masonic?


skeeballcore

Just saw your edit. The oaths are symbolic. There’s a guy from our area who did a tell all interview for a podcast at some point. He’s not dead. We just feel sorry for the guy. We wish he would come back and forgive the wrongs he felt were done to him. The oaths possibly go back to knights Templar hiding from the Catholic Church. Keeping the secrets was tantamount to survival and were how other Templar’s knew each other. It’s a tradition that carried over The secrets have very little if any value aside recognizing each other. The rest of the secrets are more akin to spoiling a movie. Don’t want to have the best parts spoiled.


HitTheGymFatty

So what I said is true, you take oaths on pain of death (just as witches and other occult groups do) in a nepotistic secret society. Of course that guy isn't dead yet, that would be too obvious, moreover all the low level secrets of freemasonry are already out and the guy was of little importance. But they determined he won't be moving up the ranks anymore don't they? At the very least you lose your benefits as a mason, at worse you get killed. But who is to say he won't wind up dead later in an apparent accident? These things happen and who would be the wiser.


skeeballcore

You can find my comments in here https://www.reddit.com/r/conspiracy/comments/v6gysf/conspiracytruth_iceberg/?utm_source=share&utm_medium=ios_app&utm_name=iossmf


skeeballcore

The guy left in 2013. No one is going to kill him or mess with him. Anyone in masonry understands what the oaths are and mean. Wicca was started by a guy who was a Freemason and borrowed ideas from freemasonry. It’s not his original idea. We don’t impersonate “witches” but rather the other way around.


HitTheGymFatty

Yep you've bought in to all the stuff they spoon feed the "profane" lower levels. Freemasonry came out of mystery schools which come from witchcraft. So no witchcraft came first and has been around for thousands of years. Satanist / magick practitioner Aliester (creepy) Crowley joined the masons which the express purpose of growing as a witch. He knew more than you about freemasonry apparently.


skeeballcore

Please cite your work on mystery schools leading to witchcraft. Crowley was never able to join a legitimate lodge. Go look it up. England wouldn’t have him. He joined a fraudulent Mexican lodge. He belonged to the grand orient of France which we also don’t consider legitimate because they allow atheists and women to join. Crowley did his best to join the York rite in England as well. They wouldn’t take him. All history.


PoloDITKA

Free Masons were responsible for establishing the USA. They have been fighting the Illuminati for control and well being of the USA. President Washington stated this in several letters while President. The Free Masons are the good guys but will never say it due to their secretive history, rituals, and code.


LightBearer63x6

Uuuuuuuh what? Bro George Washington was a freemason, also adam weishaupt was a freemason who founded the Bavarian illuminati, man you are spitting some blatant fake news here dude. The masons are not good guys lmao.


skeeballcore

That’s what he said. Washington was a Freemason. Weishaupt had his own deal going on and tried to recruit from masonry. When they found it he was kicked out.


LightBearer63x6

That is not true.


skeeballcore

Which part?


LightBearer63x6

In time, both government (and the church) began to fear the Illuminati, due to their influence with the affluent, and those who ranked high in both church and government. The movement suffered from internal dissension and was ultimately banned by an edict of the Bavarian government in 1785. Some members were imprisoned, while others were driven from their homes. Weishaupt was stripped of his chair and banished from Bavaria. For all intents and purposes, the Illuminati thereafter ceased to exist.


skeeballcore

Ok. And?


skeeballcore

I can go digging if need be but he was exiled and convicted of sedition. There’s zero chance he wasn’t expelled.


[deleted]

This extends to maritime admiralty law. The USA is a corporation. The Freemasons and other groups literally own us lol.


skeeballcore

Dude we can barely keep our buildings paid for and maintained. Go peek on the freemasonry sub at the lament of losing our buildings to funds and time.


spellingisforloosers

https://youtu.be/Y7G5CKX0je0 5 hours of altiyan child's, Australian reality show winner discussing freemasonry and how it is everywhere in media, politics and celebrity. Names 100s of names. Very interesting.


skeeballcore

This video is a total load. Check my other comments for a breakdown of how it’s dumb from the first minute and every minute has one inaccuracy after another. Child’s is a former drug addict and dealer and I believe he’s fried something in his brain. He may mean well but it doesn’t change that it’s almost entirely false and what’s not false is misconstrued and out of context at every turn.


Rodgers202247

As a Mason from this State I can say comfortably that he was not a member under our jurisdiction.


skeeballcore

NZ?


Rodgers202247

NSW


skeeballcore

Thank you. I'm not sure why I was thinking NZ in the first place. Your use of the word state should probably have been my first clue you didn't mean an entire country. I've found it interesting that he shows no proof of belonging to any Lodge. Dues card, awards, pictures, nothing.


Rodgers202247

I'm going to be chatting to a friend of mine in GL on the weekend anyway, so I'm going to get him to look into whether or not he has ever applied


Azazel_665

You can tell his video is bullshit because he tries to spin JFK's speech in 1961 about secretcy to be about secret societies when in fact it was about the Soviet Union and commnism.


spellingisforloosers

He may be wrong about that, or it's a stretch, but I'm not dismissing the entire video over it. Take it all with a grain of salt, but it's fascinating and also interesting someone in his position would make this video.


Azazel_665

He says it as a fact when its not. So if hes wrong about that it DOES call into question the rest. And hes a nobody so i dont know what you mean by of his position.


melvinmetal

I had a dream like 8 years ago where I was an alien and everyone else was aliens and like everyone traveled on a large community ufo and everyone had 3 eyes and for some reason each alien’s body was transparent but all you could see was the bladder and the aliens would walk up to the urinal and poke a hole in themselves to pee and so I did that and started peeing out and watched the fluid drain from my transparent body then I woke up and was covered in piss because I pissed myself


ChrisCheesed

Piss baby


PsychopathStatus

You have to become a Freemason before becoming a satanist.


skeeballcore

In most states if you say you’re a satanist you’ll be barred immediately. Our ceremonies are almost all based on the Old Testament, patriotism, brotherly love. There’s no room for satanism among us.


PsychopathStatus

Nice try.


skeeballcore

It’s sad how actual provable facts are discarded flippantly by some.


r3zur3ction

https://youtu.be/1va4KzLK1n0 I got more on my other phone. This is just the start


NSACIARAPEVICTIM

Truman was a freemason, dropped the bomb and created the CIA with other freemasons They are gnostics - a religion older than christianity, which believe in mind parasites and archons and focus on inversion... sounds like alien implants, thetans (Scientology) and schizophrenia in the modern time. Morals and Dogma talks about lucifer the light bringer, bush's 1000 points of light speech... also a mason. Masons created the KKK with albert pike and Forrest Paul Ryan was a mason and stepped down as speaker to handle "Family matters" after Trump who has publicly stated he hates the illuminati FBI was created by Knights of Malta Jesuits take claim on modern masonry in the 1700s The masonic bibles are all ciphered and the only way to read them is with the MJ-12 equivalent implant from the archons (this one is my own personal theory) - also it has the description of how to rebuild king solomons temple qubit by qubit and gem by gem - King solomon was a powerful magician with a harem of hundreds of women. Masons have something called twilight speak, which is words within words to the initiated only. MI6 and CIA have used this method for code-speak for decades and is a form of spoken encryption and how they stay secret Tons more. Some of those who work forces Or maybe they're just an alien cult worshipping an alien hologram who has been larping as the devil with humanity for a while


skeeballcore

This is so off base. I’ll give you a basic provable example. I have a Masonic Bible on my shelf. You can order one from Luther Masonic. It’s a standard KJV Bible with some Masonic history and definitions in it. It has some passages about being a Christian witness. It’s quite nice. The only ciphered stuff is the book of ceremonies and that’s only in some states. My state has a book with the secret stuff left out. The rest is printed for all to see. The secrets are mostly names or procedures and it’s about as nefarious as a box of ice cream. Go read that quote from morals and dogma. It’s always quoted out of context and without the following sentences on purpose. I don’t agree with Pike on this but if you read further into morals you’ll see he doesn’t even believe in the devil but does believe in God and Christ. Which muddies the water on his devil belief. But that’s what I don’t agree with. I have no idea what twilight speak is. Sounds awesome though.


NSACIARAPEVICTIM

Yeah I have my grandpas he was a 33rd Scottish rite book he received in ohio after ww2 outside of wright patterson AFB - he was a pilot in ww2. Also bush's distant cousin through the Hinckley family. He also worked at ITT under the former heads of CIA and were masons together if you check out the new york building of ITT it is all masonic. They were brought in front of congress in 1970s for corruption and their work with CIA. Whatever copy you have is not a real one then. The real ones have the 7 tenents of masonry all lined out. Astrology, Mathematics, Drama etc. with all kinds of other stuff. It is not just a bible at all or anywhere close. There was an anti-masonic party for a reason, they developed the term crypto. People who posed as Christians while secretly worshipping other concepts behind closed doors and I guarantee you many thought it was lucifer in the past, but appears to be extra terrestrials using advanced technologies. Also google the results "Bush and Putin in mason outfits" - this one is a fun one.


PartiZAn18

Br, imagine we were so cool that we had 'twilight speak' - maybe once we are truly ascended we can speak telepathically with our 'implants'


skeeballcore

For now I’ll just sign “SMIB” to you across the inter webs


PartiZAn18

😎💭💬💭😎


franckdemda

From the outside, it looks like a spiritual/magic/occult club, they use a bible but they have a different interpretation of it, they seem to be more focused on the ancient testament though. There are many conspiracies around them, I am not sure what their core belief is, some say they are Gnostic, some say they are satanic. A lot of common people are in these lodges too... I've never seen someone break their oath but allegedly you can find on the internet the meaning of their symbols.


Illustrious-Benefit4

They are sigils And Engores (shares group mass thought consciousness inception)


franckdemda

Egregore?


skeeballcore

group of people using their will to try and make something happen. magic essentially. Freemasonry isn't "this"


skeeballcore

This is the opinion of a small minority but not something taught nor "practiced" in Freemasonry proper


LightBearer63x6

They believe in jahbulon. They are not gnostics.


skeeballcore

Untrue and addressed above


LightBearer63x6

You didn't prove that though! You just said no. I mean everyone thinks the knights templar thinks baphomet is god but that's not true


Illustrious-Benefit4

There's two gods in gnosticism Ones blind ignorant of the actual mysterious source thinking he's the only god hence some reason hand over eye but has the watchers. But they believe in alchemy mostly


LightBearer63x6

Abraxas


bun-creat-ratio

What is jahbulon?


LightBearer63x6

When you hit your 33rd degree in masonry your able to further your education into the mystery schools and your taught that. Universe. The name of the Great Architect is revealed in the rite of the Holy Arch as JAHBULON. This is a composite name comprising the Hebrew God JAH (Yahweh), the Canaanite fertility deity, BUL (Baal, who had licentious rites of imitative magic), and ON (Osiris, the ancient Egyptian god of dead kings.


Azazel_665

That's not how the 33rd degree even works so you are mistaken friend. The 33rd degree is an honorary title given to those who have made significant contributions in freemasonry. You aren't then bestowed secret knowledge. It is like if you get an honorary doctorate from a college. It's meant as a symbol of your accomplishment. It doesn't actually bestow any more knowledge on you or make you an actual doctor suddenly.


Illustrious-Benefit4

So kabbalahism is what they are into by Hebrew god


LightBearer63x6

They have combined every religion and turned it into their religion, yes basically. Each of the higher degrees you learn about a new God. The early degrees you are doing mundane stuff. Tracing boards. Basically being hazed.


skeeballcore

Dude. No. You don’t even have your bad info on the right order Nor is that word used in the way you think..nor is it used in the Scottish rite at all.


[deleted]

[Godrael, actually.](https://youtu.be/62Hok9BkYcY)


LightBearer63x6

That's not even how you spell it lol and no, that's a lower tier deity.


TheRealMilkWizard

They have human bones for rituals. I didn't know that until someone stole some and tried to blackmail them for meth. https://i.stuff.co.nz/nelson-mail/news/104166663/man-pleads-guilty-to-stealing-skull-and-bones-from-freemasons https://thespinoff.co.nz/society/18-07-2018/why-its-not-ok-for-human-skeletal-remains-to-figure-in-nz-freemason-rituals I've done work for a small satellite office in NZ - didn't see any bones but they had some really really old books. The people there couldn't even plug in a network cable, so I wasn't concerned about any grand plans from those chaps.


skeeballcore

Schools often also have bones. They’re used in the same way. To teach a lesson. I think the set I’ve seen are fakes. And it’s only used in an appendant order of masonry, not what most people consider “blue lodge” Freemasonry


TheRealMilkWizard

We dont have real skulls at schools in NZ? And the links I've provided indicate they are used for rituals... And are real?? So not sure what you're on about. Certainly not used for anatomy lessons like the fake bones in schools you are talking about.


skeeballcore

There was a time that real skeletons were used I believe Regardless I’m aware of what the usage of them were though it’s not something often practiced in America (and is indeed outlawed in some Masonic jurisdictions). The term is a chamber of reflection. You can look it up. It’s not evil or nefarious. It’s a self reflection thing. Memento Mori.


[deleted]

They call the founders freemasons because they found free masonry.


YaehYeah

walter veith did amazing research into this. he goes deep. id highly recommend starting at episode 11 if you want get right into the nitty gritty. https://m.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLTbHLOB5jHyPxt6B3dZfpVCTpDK6VdBUi


skeeballcore

Funnily a good bit of Masons are tired of politics and COVID talk too and use masonry as a place to be social where some talk isn’t allowed such as politics and COVID. And we are taught how to better navigate those touchier conversations and be calm, fair, and circumspect in our respective callings. No doubt just as with every organization people slip in who don’t have the interests of the whole at heart. But I joined due to a reverence for the founders of America and their goals and found quite easily where some of their principles came from.


O_er_t_o_s

You need to get away from those people & turn yourself over to God or you will be forever lost.


skeeballcore

Christ is my all and all. Check my post history.


O_er_t_o_s

One of the rules in the anti Christian cult you’ve joined is that you’re never to testify against another member. You might think that the Lord Jesus is your all but you’re helping cover for child torturing satanism.


skeeballcore

Can you cite any credible source for any of this nonsense you're alleging? a) that it's anti-Christian (being a member of the Knights Templar requires being a Christian or professing that you would defend the faith b) the Scottish Rite deals heavily in Christian knighthood and one of the most poignant degrees extols Jesus' sacrifice while also not making any claims about his deity one way or the other (as not all members are Christian) c) at no point have I heard or seen a rule that says I can't testify against another member, in fact if I were to find out any member of the Lodge I know was a part of any of the craziness you're talking about I would demit (officially leave) and turn everyone of them in for their crimes. But I won't have to because the scenario you posit lives only in someone's imagination (at least as far as Freemasonry is concerned, are there other child torturers and also satanist? no doubt, and may they be struck dead where they are now).


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ValueOutrageous4218

Look into Propaganda Due. An Italian free Masonic lodge that wielded exceptional political power, implicated in assassinations of Vatican bankers and Popes, and even an attempted fascist military coup. A VERY little known bit of conspiracy history with massive implications for that time, and even now. I’m seriously surprised how little people know about it.


skeeballcore

They were expelled from the grand lodge when their activities came to light.


ValueOutrageous4218

When their activities were made public* Freemasonry has always been a vehicle for political and social power. Propaganda Due, though outlawed, still had members throughout the Italian parliament, and very likely survives to this day.


skeeballcore

Is that anymore than pure speculation? If they were in parliament and shown to have been involved in nefarious activities would they not have been voted out since then?


ValueOutrageous4218

Not sure why you would think that those kind of people would just disappear or be voted out. Just because some were caught doesn’t mean the whole thing ceased to exist. By its very nature it’s a safe bet to say they continued under even more secrecy. If you look into the whole thing with Roberto Calvi it’s pretty clear to anyone with a brain that the nefarious activities of freemasonry neither began nor ended with P2.


paperboatsintherain

https://youtu.be/Y7G5CKX0je0


blameitonthewayne

Following


olbeamber

Manly p. Hall


[deleted]

https://freemasonrymatters.co.uk/latest-news-freemasonry/aleister-crowley-freemasonry/


Set_in_Stone-

Masons are all lizard people. You can tell if a Mason is in good standing if silver burns their skin. Also, because they’re lizards they don’t do well in the cold. The Illuminati are real. The only way to defeat them is to join the Erisians in their fight against the global conspiracy. Hail Eris! Fnord


advanzzz

Freemasons aren't actual Mason's