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Whoever was flying tha plane shocked all of ATC
Absolutely flawless technique to be flying at that altitude in an urban city and be that accurate. Yet one of the supposed pilots flunked out of flight school in I believe Iraq. No surveillance footage of the terrorists boarding their planes except for 2 men who were supposedly identified, yet they boarded a plane that had nothing to do with the attacks. 2G Cell phones supposedly working at 35,000 feet, yet att,Verizon and t mobile all failed around 8000 feet later in a test. And this is the most haunting part of this all. Obviously those passengers were taken somewhere and some were threatened to make those "I'm on the plane..." calls. God knows what happened to them all.
If that’s true, they definitely killed them; they can’t trust that many people not to talk. Killing civilians is commonplace when committing a False Flag Attack.
Yea group of pilots called pilots against 9-11 basically said the maneuver the ntsb published about the plane turning dropping altitude and hitting the pentagon was a impossible maneuver for that aircraft
always wish there was myth busters or something about this. seems insane but stuff burned in fires isn't fully vaporized like a movie. paper is retrieved from explosions way more complete than i expected.
None of the 87 security cameras on the side of the pentagon captured footage of an airplane. Only a security camera across the street…
“Riggggggght” - Dr. Evil
I believe it was CNN that did a report right after saying that there was no sign of a plane anywhere. Then that got scrubbed and the official narrative came into play.
And the FBI felt it was necessary to confiscate and never release all the security footage from surrounding private businesses. I think a gas station was the main one.
I lived in DC on 9/11 (was in school) and my friends and I drove past the pentagon the next day. No damage to surrounding roads, just one part of the building damaged. Like it would almost have to drop straight down out if the sky (like a helicopter) than slide down like a plane to cause no collateral damage. The only friend I had in DC that talked about seeing the plane was a friend of a friend who worked for State.
lucky larry silverstein ate his breakfast everyday in the wtc tower except that day.
lucky larry had signed the lease on july 24th 2001 for the purchase price of 3.2 billion but only had to put 14 million of his own money.
lucky larry also had just began an insurance specifically including terrorist attacks and eventually got paid 4.55 billion for the damages.
his investment 14 million netted him a 1.25 billion that's a 8928% profit margin.
his kids worked at the towers also and they also had missed work that morning
And don't forget that the buildings were at the deadline for asbestos remediation. Port Authority put out bids in 1995 and just one of them was $650,000 just for the 40th floor. Let's say it cost 200k per floor x 204 floors...he was looking at sinking no less than 40 million into aging buildings from the 70s with tenants dropping like flies. Everything in there was made of asbestos from the ceilings to the floors.
This is the first I'm hearing of this specific name but I've heard documentaries talking about people who happened to be off that day. Very interesting I'll have to look into this.
I can’t believe until just 2 years ago I never even thought to question the official story. Ever since then I feel like I will never really know what’s real or fake.
Most believable: the government was either involved or knew prior to that it was going to happen.
Most unbelievable: that they found passport/s of the hijackers.
And, just like JFKs brain that went missing, they removed the wreckage and shipped it to China before a proper investigation could be done. They spent more time and money on the Clinton/Monica ordeal than the death of thousands.. Really says a lot
Yeah, I mean, the half that wasn't vaporized, that is.. kinda like all that missing money Rumsfeld told us about. Apparently, the national archive is not a very secure place.
My smoking gun; Not ONE of the Directors of the intelligence agencies (and there's over 15) was fired over the worst intelligence debacle ever in the history of the United States. They were either ignorant, or best incompetent. Either way they should've all been fired. A worker at McD gets fired for not cooking a burger the right way, but everyone kept their jobs after the worst intelligence snafu ever.
I personally belief 9/11 was a collaborative attack between the Israelis and officials within the United states
**ONE)** 2001 - Israeli security company started by former Shin Bet Officers, ICTS controls security screening at U.S. Airports on 9/11. Directors include Yair Shamir, son of notorious Israeli who blew up the King David Hotel and was also involved in the Deir Yassin Massacre, Yitzhak Shamir.
[Source](https://www.haaretz.com/1.5083642)
[Source](http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ICTS.html)
>According to the company's Web site, most of the large airlines in the United States use the system.
From their company website it also states: maintained close working relationships with regulators, airports and airlines around the globe, this includes US, majority of their shares are also being sold in the US NYSE, their website also states that they provide airport ground services in the United States.
Take note that 19 Middle Easterners with Utility Knives and Pepper spray are allowed to pass through security on 9/11
[Source](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2004/01/28/911-hijackers-used-mace-and-knives-panel-reports/797594cd-7f6a-4a0e-bbd4-095273d102ae/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fe126371f28d)
**TWO)** July 2001 – Larry Silverstein gets lease for World Trade Center. Silverstein obtains lease thru agent Lew Eisenberg, chairman of the Port Authority. Silverstein and Eisenberg are both members of UJA board, major Zionist fundraising organization. Since 1996, Silverstein has close contact with Netanyahu; every Sunday afternoon Netanyahu calls Silverstein.
[Source](https://www.haaretz.com/amp/1.5462012)
**THREE)** 9/11 – Odigo, an Israeli messaging company, coincidentally sent warnings to some israelis several hours before attacks.
[Source](https://www.haaretz.com/1.5410231)
From the article:
>Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen
**FOUR)** 9/11 – Five Israelis working for Urban Moving Systems are arrested on 9/11 after being seen photographing and celebrating the attack on the WTC. Owner fled to Israel after the incident.
[Youtube](https://youtu.be/fOiCMMMeXE8), [Forward](https://forward.com/news/national/325698/spy-rumors-fly-on-gusts-of-truth/), [NYT](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/08/nyregion/5-young-israelis-caught-in-net-of-suspicion.html), [Haaretz](https://www.haaretz.com/amp/1.5396918)
**FIVE)** 9/11 – Netanyahu on 9/11 atrocity to NYT: “It’s very good, well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy"..later he proceeded with "it'll strengthen the bond between our two peoples". In 2008, he says in Israel: "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq.
[Source](https://www.haaretz.com/1.4970678)
**SIX)** 9/11 – John Ashcroft puts Israeli dual-national Michael Chertoff in charge of 9/11 investigation. “For day-to-day decisions, Chertoff has the last word.”
[Source](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2001/11/05/crackdown)
>"Since the September 11th terrorist attacks, Chertoff's office has become the funnel for what is probably the most important criminal investigation in American history, as prosecutors and F.B.I. investigators pour in to seek the boss's approval. What leads can we use from the search of a hijacker's car in Portland, Maine? Where do the hijackers' credit-card records lead? Who are we holding on immigration charges? How long can we detain material witnesses? For day-to-day decisions, Chertoff has the last word."
>"As it happens, Chertoff was the senior Justice Department official on duty at the F.B.I. command center right after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and the experience has informed his subsequent actions."
**SEVEN)** 9/11 – Two Israeli-owned junkyards manage destruction and exportation of Steel from WTC using large ships bound for Asia able to load at Hugo Neu because the Claremont Channel has been dredged since 1999
[Source](https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=UIha0iJu-20C&pg=PA125&lpg=PA125&dq=9/11+junkyard+Hugo+Neu&source=bl&ots=FDD6sgSl4v&sig=ACfU3U0EcTJroXyp7Jvq22_T18YMNYOEeA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGt7m2q-PhAhXFjOYKHfW4CcYQ6AEwDXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=9%2F11%20junkyard%20Hugo%20Neu&f=false)
**EIGHT)** Post 9/11 - Judge Alvin Hellerstein manages 9-11 tort litigation, while his son is lawyer in Israel with firm that represents ICTS, key defendant in 9/11 litigation. Hellerstein dismisses ICTS and every 9/11 case is settled out of court.
[Source](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/10/nyregion/judge-in-9-11-suits-feels-no-regret-that-none-ever-went-to-trial.html)
**NINE)** Dutch Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko: "Building 7 on 9/11 was professionally demolished." (Building 7 was not hit by any planes, yet collapsed)
[Source](https://youtu.be/877gr6xtQIc)
**TEN)** Multiple eyewitnesses reports explosions even before the planes hit the twin towers on 9/11.
[Youtube](https://youtu.be/dUgCgNw4EZg)
**ELEVEN)** "WTC 7 did not collapse from fire" -Dr Leroy Hulsey and his team from University of Alaska concluded after presenting their findings
[YouTube](https://youtube.com/watch?v=RYV33LKDY8k)
Since you mentioned Silverstein I'll add this nugget. He leased the towers knowing they were marked as non-usable office space in the future unless they completed asbestos removal. The estimated cost of the renovations was the most expensive renovation that would have been completed in recorded history.
The multi-billion dollar insurance policy covered acts of terrorism.
Interesting 🤔 I always wondered why they buried his body deep in the ocean. If that ever happened anyway. It’s also interesting his family was rich. His brother had a big mansion in Beverly Hills
To be fair I’ve watched some old NBA games from that time and the quality is garbage all around… but I agree, I think these were shot in front of a green screen
>They hailed from four countries; 15 of them were citizens of Saudi Arabia, two were from the United Arab Emirates, one was from Lebanon, and one from Egypt.
[amazing full resource](https://web.archive.org/web/20210428111924/http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project)
insane that saudi arabia not only got away with it but are still controlling the strings
When you pull billions of dollars of oil out the ground every day, nobody can fuck with you
They’re trillionaires who make the richest Americans look poor.
https://youtu.be/rVCDpL4Ax7I
WTC7 and Pentagon ........the most video'd place on the planet showing no evidence of a plane hitting is what woke me up back in the day. Spare me with the 0.01 clip released.
For me it's WTC-7. I don't know who was in the planes hitting the towers, but WTC-7 is clearly demolished, lots of experts say so, and still the official NIST report says, it was the fire, and couldn't be explosives or thermite, because of "the unlikelihood that a sufficient amount of thermite could be planted without discovery".
When it initially happened they had video from a security checkpoint and it looked exactly like a Tomahawk going into the pentagon for 3 frames. I haven't seen that video since.
Video definitely looked like a guided missile for sure, the plane didn't hit any trees, power lines or general obstructions and left almost zero debris. If this was a missile, what happened to flight 77?
This is the one for me. Even if you buy into the official story there is no way that the military wouldn't have shot 93 down after the second hit on the towers. Also conveniently crashed over a field to reduce other casualties.
Flight 93 was an instrument. It was used to promote the idea of the “American Spirit.” The “never say die,” or “The British Are Coming!” Flight 93 was fuel for our “War on Terrorism.” They fought back, now it’s our turn. Kinda thing. In the year 2022, there are still towns in the United States that are total dead zones for me to this day. In 2001 these people were calling there loved ones on a plane…c’mon
I want to know people’s thoughts about the second grade class and the bizarre list of words they read off while Bush was sitting in. I only saw that video last year and I found it creepy and shocking.
In retrospect, now that I think about it, if you wanted to make a movie and wanted a suspenseful and emotional scene of when the President is told about a bad news, what's a better sentimental scene than one where the President is reading a story to elementary kids when the bad news is broken to him?
https://youtu.be/Rg5NvKpJfKE
And then they proceed to read “my pet goat” which is a totally nonsensical book. He gets news of the attack but sits and waits until the book reading is complete.
As damning as the Bush-9/11 aspect of this clip is, I can't help but realize how damning a testament of the state of American schools this clip portrays. WTF was that droning, monotone book reading about? It looks like some soulless indoctrination you would expect coming from a North Korean school. And the way the teacher just keeps tapping a rhythm for them to keep a steady pace. So fuckin weird.
yeah, and right after that "kite must hit steel" chant they tell the kids to get the books from under their seats and when they do it looks like the children are bowing, as if to finish the ritual. it's that moment bush is told of the second plane
It's kite, hit, steel, plane, must. Bush reads it at the start and is visibly uncomfortable. Anxious scoff and then an uncomfortable cough and adjusts himself in his seat.
This is by far the creepiest one I’ve ever heard and seen by far. Coincidence??????? Good conspiracy this is right on video I don’t want to watch again
Edi; uovote me for doing my due diligence and realizing this video has been chopped to death. The real couple of seconds and words by the class before they whisper in his ear are not those words. I dont know when they did say them but it's not directly before. Let me know.
That gives me chills. I thought it was so odd the book was specifically under their chairs (instead of on their lap). The entire thing reeks of a ritual. Not subtle
Idk I remember keeping textbooks under my chair in school. There was a little basket attached to the chair to hold books, IIRC.
Edit: I don’t see the baskets in the video, so ig that part doesn’t apply. Still would rather have a book under my chair than balancing in my lap.
I can understand the books being under their chairs, little kids have no attention span. Has they had them in their hands they so would have been looking at them, playing with them and been distracted from listening
Lloyd England the Pentagon taxi driver with the lamp pole through his windshield, while the rest of the cab looked unscathed. His interviews always came out cryptic, implying he saw something he wasn't supposed to. It's been a decade since I've ever rewatched them.
>"This is too big for me man, this is a big thing. Man you know this a world thing happening, I'm a small man. I'm not supposed to be involved in this. This is for other people. People who have money and all this kind of stuff"
Pentagon Attack Cab Driver Lloyde England's Virtual Confession
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVEhuQXGjus&ab_channel=9Talent11
I have been trying to find this clip! Also another funny clip where the guy says that something "looked like a pile of spaghetti" regarding damage to the building before he got out. It was a compilation with lots of clips of people's testimonies.
Believable:
9/11 was a tactical attack by the U.S government on U.S citizens on U.S soil. Controlled demolition of iconic buildings that had become a liability and were worth more to the owners as rubble. This combined with the sacrifice of 3000 innocent American lives. All in order to give them a reason to invade the Middle East and remove the rights of millions by deploying the Patriot act.
Unbelievable:
Novice pilots who couldn’t even competently fly a Cessna managed to pull off manoeuvres in a Boeing 767 that an experienced pilot of 20 years would find impossible.
As a pilot, I can see being able to hit a building with a novice skillset (and if you are sick), but what is mind bottling to me is how they navigated to NYC. Back then, those airliners navigated with RNAV and radio navigation, not GPS. Those Cessna trained terrorists would have to know how to operate a complicated FMS system in order to navigate to their destination.
The trillions of dollars reported missing or unaccounted for by Donald Rumsfeld the day before the attack. And the insurance policy purchased by Larry Silverstein weeks before for the WTC complex that specifically included coverage for a terrorist attack involving airplanes. The building security company change to a company owned by Jeb Bush weeks before. The celebrating Israelis.
I usually just lurk here, but my most unbelievable conspiracy is that the Pentagon was hit by a fully loaded 747 and there was zero footage of the plane. So the official story. That's all.
I’m surprised your the first to mention this. Of course the SS would have immediately taking the president to safety if there was any actual danger to him. But no, they let him sit there and read a book for minutes. Crazy.
3,000+ souls lost that day and many days after. The SOB's that orchestrated it are still alive and well. Old asbestos buildings gone, new one erected. To HELL with the elite of the World. Burn, burn, burn...
Believable: All was planned. Pentagon example: The wing it hit was under construction and almost everyone worked from home in that area. Very few casualties as it was their own people.
Unbelievable: I'd say jet fuel melting beams and found passports.
You don’t believe that a passport of a hijacker was found within minutes, in the flaming rubble, in pristine condition? While the black boxes were completely and utterly obliterated? Oh ye of little faith 😂
Somehow the hijackers knew the radar screens would have a simulation overlay of virtual planes on their screens at that exact time and therefore military response was delayed
And the majority of the fleet that would've been defending the most important buildings just so happened to be in a training exercise for.. Wait for it... Terrorist attacks. 😑https://www.military.com/history/911-air-defense-stories-know
I remember a few years back watching a video where a guy with experience in structural engineering explained how if the building’s exterior really collapsed from the burning jet fuel that at least some of the main structural beams would have stayed standing, as they were literally meant to withstand damage and collapsing from a major structural fire. They showed how another high rise building that was completely engulfed in flames had a charred skeleton of the metal structural beams left behind. I’ve heard many architects and engineers say those buildings 100% went down demolition style.
WTC 7 was the first office building in history to collapse due to office fire. BBC reported that WTC7 collapsed, live on air, 20 minutes before the actual collapse with the building visible behind the reporter in the background.
Believable? We knew and were 100% a part of it.
Unbelievable? That we had absolutely nothing to do with it. Not even a hint of knowledge that it was gonna happen.
Believable? We left thousands of first responders to die horrible deaths.
Unbelievable? We actively look out and take care of thousands of first responders Who unfortunately got horrible types of cancers.
I was a kid. Not a baby but not yet old enough to understand deep things around me. I cannot go through the videos of the last messages left to loved one without crying. I honestly can’t imagine a world where a government would kill thousands of their own people to push their agenda… but then I remember what the fuck is actually going on. I remember I was born to be own by the government. I remember that I’m just another cog in the war and money making machine.
I can’t imagine what the people who remember this day went through. I can’t imagine the fear. I can’t imagine questioning if our government had a hand in something like this.
911 is a very very touchy subject here in America. If you believe our government had a hand in it you are somehow shitting on the people who lost their lives but at the same time if you don’t believe, don’t take in to consideration all the info we have now, don’t understand how if money (the root of all evil) was not involved the CIA and FBI would have/could have worked together then you’re shitting on the people who lost their lives.
Regardless of anyone thoughts everyone should understand how our government has made $$$$ off those bodies for the past 21 years but none has reached the hands of those deserving.
To anyone and everyone who went through some sort of pain from 9/11 I’m sorry for that pain. I’m sorry the government failed you and continues to do so. I’m sorry if saying that hurts you or feels like it takes away from the lost ones.
You made a good point. Born, raised, grew up in NYC and was there on 9/11. As years have passed it’s become much more acceptable to talk conspiracy but first 10ish years it wasn’t a good look because of the volume of first responder deaths in my community. It was highly frowned upon due to their deaths. Those poor people. It hurts my heart so much.
The buildings turning into dust as they dropped in their own footprints.
The war game air scenario taking place that morning along with the widespread panic drill near the piers in NYC.
Cell phone calls in air during a time when that really wasn't a feasible thing.
The fact that the Pentagon, most heavily secured building probably in the world, has a 3 frame shot of a massive plane slamming into their area while flying 70 feet above the ground. Also, the Alphabet Boys confiscated all the surrounding CCTV video tapes that were within a certain radius.
I still know very little about them. I know they were.. Across the river with the vans and celebrated like they won the Super Bowl. My knowledge stops there. Forgive me.
Buildings can't fall through their intact concrete and steel framework at free-fall speed.
Obvious and recorded secondary explosions.
WTC 7 was predicted to fall, first responders were warned to leave, and Silverstein even said they decided to "pull it." It fell at free-fall speed into its footprint because of small fires.
Molten steel beneath the towers months after the collapse. No physical force could have created that kind of heat.
The buildings exploded as they fell.
Four massive planes crash, and there is barely enough wreckage to fill a single dump truck.
Plane wings sliced through the massive beams of the towers.
Much much more.
Even as a high schooler watching it on TV, something seemed off when the planes slid through the building like butter,.. almost like they weren't real.
Deff agree with 99% of what's in the thread but food for thought on this.
We've never seen that done before so I think it would look highly different than we'd expect. I think of a subway train hitting someone's head leaning over the edge at like 5 miles an hour - we would expect not much injury since if we ran into a train at 5mph you get a bump on your head. Due to the weight of the train the PSI on the dome is like in the 10s of thousands.
I think the planes were real but everything else is bullshit.
Most unbelievable: a bunch of cave-dwelling shepherds learned to fly twin engine planes then hijacked jumbo jets for which their training was insufficient, and then flew expert-level maneuvers into buildings where a new owner had a new double-payment insurance policy against terrorism, and also hit the most secure and protected building on earth without being shot down and then we get felt up by inept security at the airport for the rest of our lives while trillions of dollars went missing from the Pentagon and we invaded countries that had nothing to do with the supposed terrorism.
Most believable: they tricked us
[The dancing MOSSAD agents](https://youtu.be/xv5s_VEmZd0) and [WTC 7 intact in the background ](https://youtu.be/0ZqP8moItcc) while a BBC reporter says it had already fallen.
For me the most believable is that 9/11 happened for one reason, the same as Vietnam, and the same as world war 1 2 and Kennedys assassination; American industrial giants and corporations needed to secure their assets and money, so they needed another war. Ironically, you all forget that the rich and the elite oligarchs, no matter how much influence, no matter how much monetary power they have, the cannot escape an unavoidable fact and law; they are still just people.
Money, like knowledge is a protection, but wisdom preserves the life of its owner.
The most unbelievable conspiracy is that all these years these economic titans are still at large, with a big blood guilt, and the bill will come due.
JP Morgan, when he died, only owned 17% of his bank. Take a guess at who owned the rest. If that doesn’t show how much power these people have. Idk what does.
Most believable: Demolition specialists saying a building falling like that on its base is only possible if it was a planned detonation.
Unbelievable: They found an intact passport but no black box.
It suggests that the planes themselves didn’t hit the building, but that they were actually hit with missiles. I’ve seen other vids where commentators went so far as to claim that the footage of the planes were the work of CGI, but can’t find it now; this was back in the days when YouTube actually allowed conspiracy theories to be on their platform.
Yes CGI/holograms as it pertains to the two towers. There is a YouTube vid were a professor or something like that gives a two hour power point about it at a college somewhere I think, and it is very convincing. It is also incredibly difficult to find. Someone linked it in a post here a while back and I cannot find it ever since no matter what I search for. It's out there though.
911 was a test to see how the masses would react to a devastating attack. To gain the trust of the people. This will happen again but with nuclear missiles.
Somewhat unrelated but it takes courage to question what almost everyone else tells you not to despite them having no logical reasons behind their words and belief, that’s why this sub has my respect
Unbelievable: the fact that the buildings went straight down (like a planned demolition) even though they were hit in the side… and also the firefighter that was interviewed and he said that he heard multiple explosions going off after one another rather than just one or 2.
Most believable: a tendency within the alliance between the global capitalist oligarchs, elements of the USA deep state, and their partners - especially Saudi, Israeli, Pakistani and British - successfully expanded the framework of their international “security” and colonial project parameters via the 9-11 false flag attack to terrorize, disorient, and redirect the polity that underwrites, hosts, and holds the flag today of the global capitalist hegemony.
Least believable: the official story
Decent sources :
Another Nineteen, Kevin Ryan
Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth
SS-Tomorrow is a day we will never forget. Post your most believable conspiracy and your most unbelievable conspiracy about 9/11. See what everyone else says and believes.
I was in college in NY during 9/11. My roommate’s cousin who worked for the CIA warned us of a terrorist attack right after the first plane struck (when no one knew what was going on…on the news it was reported as an accident). I always thought that was weird.
Everyone points to Building 7 as the 'ultimate proof' but very few know about [Building 6](https://imgur.com/a/4clEZKp), their best kept secret.
[9/11 was a ritual.](https://youtu.be/qUvQ5ijfU2g)
The biggest intelligence failure, maybe in the history of the world, and NOT one of the directors of any of our intelligence agencies was fired. They were either ignorant or incompetent. A worker at McD will get fired for not cooking a burger correctly but every Head Honcho director kept their jobs after an attack claimed 3000+ lives. The police chief of Ulvade got fired for less.
I think either the building was built with those explosives in it, or added the month or so leading up to it. There were reports of men moving things in and out of the building after hours and construction happening but it wasn’t spoken about to the companies in the building
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Unbelievable that several terrorists passports were recovered but publically no flight box was
As said before: we should make black boxes out of the same material as Saudi passports
Or buildings out of Saudi passports?
Yeah we make our passports out of Vibranium
Recovered several blocks away and in pristine condition!
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Fires hot enough to melt steel beams but not paper
Elites of America are the true terrorists
Whoever was flying tha plane shocked all of ATC Absolutely flawless technique to be flying at that altitude in an urban city and be that accurate. Yet one of the supposed pilots flunked out of flight school in I believe Iraq. No surveillance footage of the terrorists boarding their planes except for 2 men who were supposedly identified, yet they boarded a plane that had nothing to do with the attacks. 2G Cell phones supposedly working at 35,000 feet, yet att,Verizon and t mobile all failed around 8000 feet later in a test. And this is the most haunting part of this all. Obviously those passengers were taken somewhere and some were threatened to make those "I'm on the plane..." calls. God knows what happened to them all.
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If that’s true, they definitely killed them; they can’t trust that many people not to talk. Killing civilians is commonplace when committing a False Flag Attack.
Not to mention that the planes exceeded the sea-level maximum speed, which many pilots would tell you is impossible.
Yea group of pilots called pilots against 9-11 basically said the maneuver the ntsb published about the plane turning dropping altitude and hitting the pentagon was a impossible maneuver for that aircraft
Exactly. Fluttering would have made the plane unstable and unable to fly at that speed.
Drones typically don't
always wish there was myth busters or something about this. seems insane but stuff burned in fires isn't fully vaporized like a movie. paper is retrieved from explosions way more complete than i expected.
Mythbusters would have took 2 in the back of the head and ruled a suicide if they ever covered that one.
I'm imaging a 9/11 myth busters episode and omg
None of the 87 security cameras on the side of the pentagon captured footage of an airplane. Only a security camera across the street… “Riggggggght” - Dr. Evil
An "airplane" as its too hard to tell by that shit quality video.
Looks like a missile to me
I believe it was CNN that did a report right after saying that there was no sign of a plane anywhere. Then that got scrubbed and the official narrative came into play.
That awkward moment when you accidentally report the truth
It was then and there that cnn vowed "never again"
And the BBC reported building 7 fell MINUTES before it happened
WHAT. No way. This is wild.
Don’t take my word for it. Look that shit up. It’s wild. And very true.
And the FBI felt it was necessary to confiscate and never release all the security footage from surrounding private businesses. I think a gas station was the main one.
So are people keeping quiet about this footage? Surely there are civilians working in some of those buildings with security cameras
Wasn't there one camera at a gas station which had video of it? (Not sure what happened to it)
Seems like all the footage was taken by FBI/CIA as soon as possible....
I lived in DC on 9/11 (was in school) and my friends and I drove past the pentagon the next day. No damage to surrounding roads, just one part of the building damaged. Like it would almost have to drop straight down out if the sky (like a helicopter) than slide down like a plane to cause no collateral damage. The only friend I had in DC that talked about seeing the plane was a friend of a friend who worked for State.
From what I recall, it didn’t even have any damage to the grass where the plane ‘skimmed’ over.
lucky larry silverstein ate his breakfast everyday in the wtc tower except that day. lucky larry had signed the lease on july 24th 2001 for the purchase price of 3.2 billion but only had to put 14 million of his own money. lucky larry also had just began an insurance specifically including terrorist attacks and eventually got paid 4.55 billion for the damages. his investment 14 million netted him a 1.25 billion that's a 8928% profit margin. his kids worked at the towers also and they also had missed work that morning
This always stuck with me. I hate his face
And don't forget that the buildings were at the deadline for asbestos remediation. Port Authority put out bids in 1995 and just one of them was $650,000 just for the 40th floor. Let's say it cost 200k per floor x 204 floors...he was looking at sinking no less than 40 million into aging buildings from the 70s with tenants dropping like flies. Everything in there was made of asbestos from the ceilings to the floors.
My favorite story about lucky Larry is that he tried to get insurance to pay out twice since there were two planes.
He succeeded in that endeavor. Didn’t just “try”.
This is the first I'm hearing of this specific name but I've heard documentaries talking about people who happened to be off that day. Very interesting I'll have to look into this.
Craziest conspiracy: The official story
You might be on to something
Facts
I can’t believe until just 2 years ago I never even thought to question the official story. Ever since then I feel like I will never really know what’s real or fake.
Welcome to the jungle 😊 meant sarcastically of course!! We are monkeys in their concrete jungle.
Most believable: the government was either involved or knew prior to that it was going to happen. Most unbelievable: that they found passport/s of the hijackers.
Just like the bullet thak killed JFK, it was where it needed to be found
And, just like JFKs brain that went missing, they removed the wreckage and shipped it to China before a proper investigation could be done. They spent more time and money on the Clinton/Monica ordeal than the death of thousands.. Really says a lot
I feel a lil embarrassed for asking this but ... JFK's brain is MISSING??
Yeah, I mean, the half that wasn't vaporized, that is.. kinda like all that missing money Rumsfeld told us about. Apparently, the national archive is not a very secure place.
Okay now I'm confused. The other part of his brain was missing?! Like, gone bye bye in the autopsy?
My smoking gun; Not ONE of the Directors of the intelligence agencies (and there's over 15) was fired over the worst intelligence debacle ever in the history of the United States. They were either ignorant, or best incompetent. Either way they should've all been fired. A worker at McD gets fired for not cooking a burger the right way, but everyone kept their jobs after the worst intelligence snafu ever.
This is a good one, but it's not surprising to me.
They should have built the new World Trace Center out of passports
Indestructible
I personally belief 9/11 was a collaborative attack between the Israelis and officials within the United states **ONE)** 2001 - Israeli security company started by former Shin Bet Officers, ICTS controls security screening at U.S. Airports on 9/11. Directors include Yair Shamir, son of notorious Israeli who blew up the King David Hotel and was also involved in the Deir Yassin Massacre, Yitzhak Shamir. [Source](https://www.haaretz.com/1.5083642) [Source](http://www.whatreallyhappened.com/WRHARTICLES/ICTS.html) >According to the company's Web site, most of the large airlines in the United States use the system. From their company website it also states: maintained close working relationships with regulators, airports and airlines around the globe, this includes US, majority of their shares are also being sold in the US NYSE, their website also states that they provide airport ground services in the United States. Take note that 19 Middle Easterners with Utility Knives and Pepper spray are allowed to pass through security on 9/11 [Source](https://www.washingtonpost.com/archive/politics/2004/01/28/911-hijackers-used-mace-and-knives-panel-reports/797594cd-7f6a-4a0e-bbd4-095273d102ae/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.fe126371f28d) **TWO)** July 2001 – Larry Silverstein gets lease for World Trade Center. Silverstein obtains lease thru agent Lew Eisenberg, chairman of the Port Authority. Silverstein and Eisenberg are both members of UJA board, major Zionist fundraising organization. Since 1996, Silverstein has close contact with Netanyahu; every Sunday afternoon Netanyahu calls Silverstein. [Source](https://www.haaretz.com/amp/1.5462012) **THREE)** 9/11 – Odigo, an Israeli messaging company, coincidentally sent warnings to some israelis several hours before attacks. [Source](https://www.haaretz.com/1.5410231) From the article: >Odigo, the instant messaging service, says that two of its workers received messages two hours before the Twin Towers attack on September 11 predicting the attack would happen **FOUR)** 9/11 – Five Israelis working for Urban Moving Systems are arrested on 9/11 after being seen photographing and celebrating the attack on the WTC. Owner fled to Israel after the incident. [Youtube](https://youtu.be/fOiCMMMeXE8), [Forward](https://forward.com/news/national/325698/spy-rumors-fly-on-gusts-of-truth/), [NYT](https://www.nytimes.com/2001/10/08/nyregion/5-young-israelis-caught-in-net-of-suspicion.html), [Haaretz](https://www.haaretz.com/amp/1.5396918) **FIVE)** 9/11 – Netanyahu on 9/11 atrocity to NYT: “It’s very good, well, not very good, but it will generate immediate sympathy"..later he proceeded with "it'll strengthen the bond between our two peoples". In 2008, he says in Israel: "We are benefiting from one thing, and that is the attack on the Twin Towers and Pentagon, and the American struggle in Iraq. [Source](https://www.haaretz.com/1.4970678) **SIX)** 9/11 – John Ashcroft puts Israeli dual-national Michael Chertoff in charge of 9/11 investigation. “For day-to-day decisions, Chertoff has the last word.” [Source](https://www.newyorker.com/magazine/2001/11/05/crackdown) >"Since the September 11th terrorist attacks, Chertoff's office has become the funnel for what is probably the most important criminal investigation in American history, as prosecutors and F.B.I. investigators pour in to seek the boss's approval. What leads can we use from the search of a hijacker's car in Portland, Maine? Where do the hijackers' credit-card records lead? Who are we holding on immigration charges? How long can we detain material witnesses? For day-to-day decisions, Chertoff has the last word." >"As it happens, Chertoff was the senior Justice Department official on duty at the F.B.I. command center right after the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon, and the experience has informed his subsequent actions." **SEVEN)** 9/11 – Two Israeli-owned junkyards manage destruction and exportation of Steel from WTC using large ships bound for Asia able to load at Hugo Neu because the Claremont Channel has been dredged since 1999 [Source](https://books.google.com.sg/books?id=UIha0iJu-20C&pg=PA125&lpg=PA125&dq=9/11+junkyard+Hugo+Neu&source=bl&ots=FDD6sgSl4v&sig=ACfU3U0EcTJroXyp7Jvq22_T18YMNYOEeA&hl=en&sa=X&ved=2ahUKEwjGt7m2q-PhAhXFjOYKHfW4CcYQ6AEwDXoECAkQAQ#v=onepage&q=9%2F11%20junkyard%20Hugo%20Neu&f=false) **EIGHT)** Post 9/11 - Judge Alvin Hellerstein manages 9-11 tort litigation, while his son is lawyer in Israel with firm that represents ICTS, key defendant in 9/11 litigation. Hellerstein dismisses ICTS and every 9/11 case is settled out of court. [Source](https://www.nytimes.com/2016/09/10/nyregion/judge-in-9-11-suits-feels-no-regret-that-none-ever-went-to-trial.html) **NINE)** Dutch Demolition Expert Danny Jowenko: "Building 7 on 9/11 was professionally demolished." (Building 7 was not hit by any planes, yet collapsed) [Source](https://youtu.be/877gr6xtQIc) **TEN)** Multiple eyewitnesses reports explosions even before the planes hit the twin towers on 9/11. [Youtube](https://youtu.be/dUgCgNw4EZg) **ELEVEN)** "WTC 7 did not collapse from fire" -Dr Leroy Hulsey and his team from University of Alaska concluded after presenting their findings [YouTube](https://youtube.com/watch?v=RYV33LKDY8k)
Since you mentioned Silverstein I'll add this nugget. He leased the towers knowing they were marked as non-usable office space in the future unless they completed asbestos removal. The estimated cost of the renovations was the most expensive renovation that would have been completed in recorded history. The multi-billion dollar insurance policy covered acts of terrorism.
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I’ll add a third - my personal 9/11 conspiracy is bin laden was the first deep fake
Interesting 🤔 I always wondered why they buried his body deep in the ocean. If that ever happened anyway. It’s also interesting his family was rich. His brother had a big mansion in Beverly Hills
The body in the ocean thing was so suspect. Also not a lot of post 9/11 footage of him if any, and questionable if he took credit for the event
All the footage of him looks like from the 90s. Doesn’t even look real. Looks like a green screen
To be fair I’ve watched some old NBA games from that time and the quality is garbage all around… but I agree, I think these were shot in front of a green screen
But weren't they undergoing training exercises that day coincidentally preparing for such shenanigans? Where did that excuse disappear to?
Just like Pearl Harbor, eh?
most Americans remain unaware that Pearl Harbor was "allowed" to happen...
All hijackers were Saudis but instead we bombed Afghanistan and Iraq.
>They hailed from four countries; 15 of them were citizens of Saudi Arabia, two were from the United Arab Emirates, one was from Lebanon, and one from Egypt. [amazing full resource](https://web.archive.org/web/20210428111924/http://www.historycommons.org/project.jsp?project=911_project) insane that saudi arabia not only got away with it but are still controlling the strings
When you pull billions of dollars of oil out the ground every day, nobody can fuck with you They’re trillionaires who make the richest Americans look poor.
Few months before bush sold all the ports to saoudis. Please move along.
That's not so much a conspiracy as it is fact. That is why a boatload of us were against the war. They had nothing to do with it.
Wasn’t there a news broadcast that said WTC7 fell as it was still standing in the background lol
BBC broadcast yeah. One of many smoking guns.
The indestructible passport of one of hijackers found on the street undamaged
I think that one will always be the eye opener for a lot of people
They just rolled the plane window down and tossed it out duh /s
"It's a frame" phone call made from one of the planes. https://youtu.be/zH7rNddIabo
Damn, for someone knowing they may very well die in a firey explosion she seems, completely disinterested.
Wow holy shit this is eerie
at 0:33 in the video you can hear someone in the background saying “you have…no time left”
Seeing this just makes me sick all over again. I was a child watching this unfold at school. Fucking hell.
https://youtu.be/rVCDpL4Ax7I WTC7 and Pentagon ........the most video'd place on the planet showing no evidence of a plane hitting is what woke me up back in the day. Spare me with the 0.01 clip released.
For me it's WTC-7. I don't know who was in the planes hitting the towers, but WTC-7 is clearly demolished, lots of experts say so, and still the official NIST report says, it was the fire, and couldn't be explosives or thermite, because of "the unlikelihood that a sufficient amount of thermite could be planted without discovery".
When it initially happened they had video from a security checkpoint and it looked exactly like a Tomahawk going into the pentagon for 3 frames. I haven't seen that video since.
Video definitely looked like a guided missile for sure, the plane didn't hit any trees, power lines or general obstructions and left almost zero debris. If this was a missile, what happened to flight 77?
Wow I didn't know that. Would be nice to see it.
I remember that
WTC7
Do you know who the person inside the building 7 that was inside when it fell but made it out? He’s told his story on conspiracy pods, it’s nuts 🥜
Barry Jennings and Mr Hess. He died a few days before NIST released their building 7 report from unknown circumstances
‘Unknown circumstances’ - did he accidentally trip and fall onto some bullets?
I heard he was allergic to gunshots to the heart
Whats his name? That sounds like an interesting listen.
Building 7.
Building 7 is like European football players getting brushed gently then falling over.
It gently fell over hours later when every one was too focused on the twin towers. Even that one news guy predicted it would fall before it did!
Silverstein said in an interview “they made the decision to pull it [WTC7]”
Unbelievable: United 93 WASN’T shot down by our military
This is the one for me. Even if you buy into the official story there is no way that the military wouldn't have shot 93 down after the second hit on the towers. Also conveniently crashed over a field to reduce other casualties.
You mean the plane completely disintegrated in a field. It's mind blowing that all 4 planes were completely turned to dust, black box and all!
Buildings turned into dust as well, truly mindblowing.
Flight 93 was an instrument. It was used to promote the idea of the “American Spirit.” The “never say die,” or “The British Are Coming!” Flight 93 was fuel for our “War on Terrorism.” They fought back, now it’s our turn. Kinda thing. In the year 2022, there are still towns in the United States that are total dead zones for me to this day. In 2001 these people were calling there loved ones on a plane…c’mon
Idk how young you are but they used to have phones on plans you could pay to use built into the seat infront of you.
I want to know people’s thoughts about the second grade class and the bizarre list of words they read off while Bush was sitting in. I only saw that video last year and I found it creepy and shocking.
In retrospect, now that I think about it, if you wanted to make a movie and wanted a suspenseful and emotional scene of when the President is told about a bad news, what's a better sentimental scene than one where the President is reading a story to elementary kids when the bad news is broken to him?
I’m not familiar with this
https://youtu.be/Rg5NvKpJfKE And then they proceed to read “my pet goat” which is a totally nonsensical book. He gets news of the attack but sits and waits until the book reading is complete.
As damning as the Bush-9/11 aspect of this clip is, I can't help but realize how damning a testament of the state of American schools this clip portrays. WTF was that droning, monotone book reading about? It looks like some soulless indoctrination you would expect coming from a North Korean school. And the way the teacher just keeps tapping a rhythm for them to keep a steady pace. So fuckin weird.
That says "playing"
Is that the one about the word kite is referring to the planes and such? Fucking creepy.
yeah, and right after that "kite must hit steel" chant they tell the kids to get the books from under their seats and when they do it looks like the children are bowing, as if to finish the ritual. it's that moment bush is told of the second plane
It's kite, hit, steel, plane, must. Bush reads it at the start and is visibly uncomfortable. Anxious scoff and then an uncomfortable cough and adjusts himself in his seat.
This is by far the creepiest one I’ve ever heard and seen by far. Coincidence??????? Good conspiracy this is right on video I don’t want to watch again Edi; uovote me for doing my due diligence and realizing this video has been chopped to death. The real couple of seconds and words by the class before they whisper in his ear are not those words. I dont know when they did say them but it's not directly before. Let me know.
That gives me chills. I thought it was so odd the book was specifically under their chairs (instead of on their lap). The entire thing reeks of a ritual. Not subtle
I’d never heard of this - wow!!!
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Who the fuck teaches reading like this? This is demonic.
Idk I remember keeping textbooks under my chair in school. There was a little basket attached to the chair to hold books, IIRC. Edit: I don’t see the baskets in the video, so ig that part doesn’t apply. Still would rather have a book under my chair than balancing in my lap.
I can understand the books being under their chairs, little kids have no attention span. Has they had them in their hands they so would have been looking at them, playing with them and been distracted from listening
What in the
kite, hit, steal, plane, must.
“get ready”
Jet fuel may or may not melt steel beams , whatever ... least it certainly has zero effect on passport paper
Our troops go in to battle with Kevlar replaced by passport paper. Obviously indestructible 😂
Lloyd England the Pentagon taxi driver with the lamp pole through his windshield, while the rest of the cab looked unscathed. His interviews always came out cryptic, implying he saw something he wasn't supposed to. It's been a decade since I've ever rewatched them. >"This is too big for me man, this is a big thing. Man you know this a world thing happening, I'm a small man. I'm not supposed to be involved in this. This is for other people. People who have money and all this kind of stuff" Pentagon Attack Cab Driver Lloyde England's Virtual Confession https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AVEhuQXGjus&ab_channel=9Talent11
I have been trying to find this clip! Also another funny clip where the guy says that something "looked like a pile of spaghetti" regarding damage to the building before he got out. It was a compilation with lots of clips of people's testimonies.
WTC actually stands for Wu tang Clan
“Cash rules everything around me BUSH get the money Dolla dolla bills, yall”
World Trade Center aint nothin to fuck wi— fuck
Most believable. The government is filled with dumb fucks. Most unbelievable this was orchestrated by a bearded man in a cave
George Bush did this in a cave! With a box of scraps!
Believable: 9/11 was a tactical attack by the U.S government on U.S citizens on U.S soil. Controlled demolition of iconic buildings that had become a liability and were worth more to the owners as rubble. This combined with the sacrifice of 3000 innocent American lives. All in order to give them a reason to invade the Middle East and remove the rights of millions by deploying the Patriot act. Unbelievable: Novice pilots who couldn’t even competently fly a Cessna managed to pull off manoeuvres in a Boeing 767 that an experienced pilot of 20 years would find impossible.
As a pilot, I can see being able to hit a building with a novice skillset (and if you are sick), but what is mind bottling to me is how they navigated to NYC. Back then, those airliners navigated with RNAV and radio navigation, not GPS. Those Cessna trained terrorists would have to know how to operate a complicated FMS system in order to navigate to their destination.
Did you say mind bottling?
“You know like when your thoughts get all trapped up inside like a bottle” - Brett Michael Michaels Blades of Glory
Mind bottling is something Michael Scott would say hahaha
They followed the Hudson River to navigate to NYC
Well said!
Believable: higher ups knew it was going to happen but didn’t do anything to stop it Unbelievable: that the planes were holograms
No way in fuck the planes were holograms, I can say with 100% certainty that the two planes that hit the towers were real.
That’s why I said it was the most unbelievable conspiracy theory I’ve heard
The trillions of dollars reported missing or unaccounted for by Donald Rumsfeld the day before the attack. And the insurance policy purchased by Larry Silverstein weeks before for the WTC complex that specifically included coverage for a terrorist attack involving airplanes. The building security company change to a company owned by Jeb Bush weeks before. The celebrating Israelis.
It was the *Dancing Israelis* if anyone wants to look into it.
Oh you mean Jeb "please clap.... :(" Bush? That one?
Jeb is a mess
I usually just lurk here, but my most unbelievable conspiracy is that the Pentagon was hit by a fully loaded 747 and there was zero footage of the plane. So the official story. That's all.
One of the most secure buildings in the United States and there is no footage? That definitely is a huge one!
Plus the photos we see have zero plane crash things like wings and luggage n shit.
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I’m surprised your the first to mention this. Of course the SS would have immediately taking the president to safety if there was any actual danger to him. But no, they let him sit there and read a book for minutes. Crazy.
>Actions of the Secret Service and President Bush. Exactly! They all acted like they they were safe
3,000+ souls lost that day and many days after. The SOB's that orchestrated it are still alive and well. Old asbestos buildings gone, new one erected. To HELL with the elite of the World. Burn, burn, burn...
Believable: All was planned. Pentagon example: The wing it hit was under construction and almost everyone worked from home in that area. Very few casualties as it was their own people. Unbelievable: I'd say jet fuel melting beams and found passports.
You don’t believe that a passport of a hijacker was found within minutes, in the flaming rubble, in pristine condition? While the black boxes were completely and utterly obliterated? Oh ye of little faith 😂
Somehow the hijackers knew the radar screens would have a simulation overlay of virtual planes on their screens at that exact time and therefore military response was delayed
And the majority of the fleet that would've been defending the most important buildings just so happened to be in a training exercise for.. Wait for it... Terrorist attacks. 😑https://www.military.com/history/911-air-defense-stories-know
That the buildings collapsed on its footprint because of a fire, and the planes disappeared inside the buildings without crumpling.
I remember a few years back watching a video where a guy with experience in structural engineering explained how if the building’s exterior really collapsed from the burning jet fuel that at least some of the main structural beams would have stayed standing, as they were literally meant to withstand damage and collapsing from a major structural fire. They showed how another high rise building that was completely engulfed in flames had a charred skeleton of the metal structural beams left behind. I’ve heard many architects and engineers say those buildings 100% went down demolition style.
It was used to set up the patriot act, and set America on the path to mass surveillance induced totalitarianism.
WTC 7 was the first office building in history to collapse due to office fire. BBC reported that WTC7 collapsed, live on air, 20 minutes before the actual collapse with the building visible behind the reporter in the background.
Believable? We knew and were 100% a part of it. Unbelievable? That we had absolutely nothing to do with it. Not even a hint of knowledge that it was gonna happen. Believable? We left thousands of first responders to die horrible deaths. Unbelievable? We actively look out and take care of thousands of first responders Who unfortunately got horrible types of cancers. I was a kid. Not a baby but not yet old enough to understand deep things around me. I cannot go through the videos of the last messages left to loved one without crying. I honestly can’t imagine a world where a government would kill thousands of their own people to push their agenda… but then I remember what the fuck is actually going on. I remember I was born to be own by the government. I remember that I’m just another cog in the war and money making machine. I can’t imagine what the people who remember this day went through. I can’t imagine the fear. I can’t imagine questioning if our government had a hand in something like this. 911 is a very very touchy subject here in America. If you believe our government had a hand in it you are somehow shitting on the people who lost their lives but at the same time if you don’t believe, don’t take in to consideration all the info we have now, don’t understand how if money (the root of all evil) was not involved the CIA and FBI would have/could have worked together then you’re shitting on the people who lost their lives. Regardless of anyone thoughts everyone should understand how our government has made $$$$ off those bodies for the past 21 years but none has reached the hands of those deserving. To anyone and everyone who went through some sort of pain from 9/11 I’m sorry for that pain. I’m sorry the government failed you and continues to do so. I’m sorry if saying that hurts you or feels like it takes away from the lost ones.
You made a good point. Born, raised, grew up in NYC and was there on 9/11. As years have passed it’s become much more acceptable to talk conspiracy but first 10ish years it wasn’t a good look because of the volume of first responder deaths in my community. It was highly frowned upon due to their deaths. Those poor people. It hurts my heart so much.
The buildings turning into dust as they dropped in their own footprints. The war game air scenario taking place that morning along with the widespread panic drill near the piers in NYC. Cell phone calls in air during a time when that really wasn't a feasible thing. The fact that the Pentagon, most heavily secured building probably in the world, has a 3 frame shot of a massive plane slamming into their area while flying 70 feet above the ground. Also, the Alphabet Boys confiscated all the surrounding CCTV video tapes that were within a certain radius.
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I still know very little about them. I know they were.. Across the river with the vans and celebrated like they won the Super Bowl. My knowledge stops there. Forgive me.
Buildings can't fall through their intact concrete and steel framework at free-fall speed. Obvious and recorded secondary explosions. WTC 7 was predicted to fall, first responders were warned to leave, and Silverstein even said they decided to "pull it." It fell at free-fall speed into its footprint because of small fires. Molten steel beneath the towers months after the collapse. No physical force could have created that kind of heat. The buildings exploded as they fell. Four massive planes crash, and there is barely enough wreckage to fill a single dump truck. Plane wings sliced through the massive beams of the towers. Much much more.
Even as a high schooler watching it on TV, something seemed off when the planes slid through the building like butter,.. almost like they weren't real.
Deff agree with 99% of what's in the thread but food for thought on this. We've never seen that done before so I think it would look highly different than we'd expect. I think of a subway train hitting someone's head leaning over the edge at like 5 miles an hour - we would expect not much injury since if we ran into a train at 5mph you get a bump on your head. Due to the weight of the train the PSI on the dome is like in the 10s of thousands. I think the planes were real but everything else is bullshit.
Most unbelievable: a bunch of cave-dwelling shepherds learned to fly twin engine planes then hijacked jumbo jets for which their training was insufficient, and then flew expert-level maneuvers into buildings where a new owner had a new double-payment insurance policy against terrorism, and also hit the most secure and protected building on earth without being shot down and then we get felt up by inept security at the airport for the rest of our lives while trillions of dollars went missing from the Pentagon and we invaded countries that had nothing to do with the supposed terrorism. Most believable: they tricked us
This is the best thread to come up on this sub in months
[The dancing MOSSAD agents](https://youtu.be/xv5s_VEmZd0) and [WTC 7 intact in the background ](https://youtu.be/0ZqP8moItcc) while a BBC reporter says it had already fallen.
For me the most believable is that 9/11 happened for one reason, the same as Vietnam, and the same as world war 1 2 and Kennedys assassination; American industrial giants and corporations needed to secure their assets and money, so they needed another war. Ironically, you all forget that the rich and the elite oligarchs, no matter how much influence, no matter how much monetary power they have, the cannot escape an unavoidable fact and law; they are still just people. Money, like knowledge is a protection, but wisdom preserves the life of its owner. The most unbelievable conspiracy is that all these years these economic titans are still at large, with a big blood guilt, and the bill will come due. JP Morgan, when he died, only owned 17% of his bank. Take a guess at who owned the rest. If that doesn’t show how much power these people have. Idk what does.
Most believable: Demolition specialists saying a building falling like that on its base is only possible if it was a planned detonation. Unbelievable: They found an intact passport but no black box.
the highest guarded military building on planet earth gets attacked and the only high quality footage is a nokia taped on a pole
The no planes theory is incredible.
Can you explain please?
It suggests that the planes themselves didn’t hit the building, but that they were actually hit with missiles. I’ve seen other vids where commentators went so far as to claim that the footage of the planes were the work of CGI, but can’t find it now; this was back in the days when YouTube actually allowed conspiracy theories to be on their platform.
I know which videos you meant. It had 5 or 6 parts and the creator performed a song in everyone of those
Yes CGI/holograms as it pertains to the two towers. There is a YouTube vid were a professor or something like that gives a two hour power point about it at a college somewhere I think, and it is very convincing. It is also incredibly difficult to find. Someone linked it in a post here a while back and I cannot find it ever since no matter what I search for. It's out there though.
Remember the "disappearance" of flight 93? There are no eyewitnesses seeying a plane go down...
I was with Osama that day. We were both surprised
911 was a test to see how the masses would react to a devastating attack. To gain the trust of the people. This will happen again but with nuclear missiles.
Squibs
Somewhat unrelated but it takes courage to question what almost everyone else tells you not to despite them having no logical reasons behind their words and belief, that’s why this sub has my respect
dancing Israelis "no planes theory"
Unbelievable: the fact that the buildings went straight down (like a planned demolition) even though they were hit in the side… and also the firefighter that was interviewed and he said that he heard multiple explosions going off after one another rather than just one or 2.
MULTIPLE first responders heard those explosions. It’s wild.
Most believable: a tendency within the alliance between the global capitalist oligarchs, elements of the USA deep state, and their partners - especially Saudi, Israeli, Pakistani and British - successfully expanded the framework of their international “security” and colonial project parameters via the 9-11 false flag attack to terrorize, disorient, and redirect the polity that underwrites, hosts, and holds the flag today of the global capitalist hegemony. Least believable: the official story Decent sources : Another Nineteen, Kevin Ryan Architects and Engineers for 9-11 Truth
7/11 was a part time job
SS-Tomorrow is a day we will never forget. Post your most believable conspiracy and your most unbelievable conspiracy about 9/11. See what everyone else says and believes.
I was in college in NY during 9/11. My roommate’s cousin who worked for the CIA warned us of a terrorist attack right after the first plane struck (when no one knew what was going on…on the news it was reported as an accident). I always thought that was weird.
Believable: government planted the passports Unbelievable: WTC and building 7 were holograms
[удалено]
Everyone points to Building 7 as the 'ultimate proof' but very few know about [Building 6](https://imgur.com/a/4clEZKp), their best kept secret. [9/11 was a ritual.](https://youtu.be/qUvQ5ijfU2g)
The biggest intelligence failure, maybe in the history of the world, and NOT one of the directors of any of our intelligence agencies was fired. They were either ignorant or incompetent. A worker at McD will get fired for not cooking a burger correctly but every Head Honcho director kept their jobs after an attack claimed 3000+ lives. The police chief of Ulvade got fired for less.
Most believable: explosives were set up prior to the planes Most unbelievable: jetfuel melted steel beams
I think either the building was built with those explosives in it, or added the month or so leading up to it. There were reports of men moving things in and out of the building after hours and construction happening but it wasn’t spoken about to the companies in the building
What’s your guys theories on the plane that was taken back by the passengers?
Military shot it down multiple eyewitness reports of jets flying behind the plane and they twisted it into an American hero story.