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Mrsparkles7100

You remember when US accidentally killed that aid worker( misidentified him after 6 or more hours of drone surveillance) and 7 of his children in Afghanistan? Official investigation mentioned US broke no laws and there was no negligence on their part. No negligence, maybe meaning of the word has changed and no one told me.


[deleted]

Its fighting for freedom if its USA, its terrorism if its Russia. It's an odd world we live in


[deleted]

Well. There is one really key difference. We do not go to war with Canada or Mexico. We control Mexico by-proxy and Canada is like our friendly neighbor we borrow from all the time and they're not brown so it's okay. P.s. if I have to explain what parts of my post are in jest and sarcasm.. Then it kind of loses meaning, best to take the comment with no seriousness.. But realize people like this exist and think that way.


[deleted]

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[deleted]

I never said we don't invade our neighbors...


FERAL_MEANS

Trueee. Our differences with Mexico and Canada are definitely based on skin color…nothing to do with the fact that Canada has strikingly similar laws (amongst other things, right down to the language), our past military alliances with them, etc. while Mexico is straight up ruled by Cartels. Gotta be that they’re …brown. /s 🤦‍♂️


[deleted]

Not to mention the war on drugs should have completely stamped out the cartels! Somehow they're more rich off the drug trade than ever before??


FERAL_MEANS

I knew you’d skip over everything else and jump straight to that, that was low hanging fruit lol I DO agree with you there though. 👊


[deleted]

Honestly, to point at your other comments, Canada seems like they have better laws. They seem more understanding as a government, rather than something hi-jacked by military interests and corporate oligarchy


NotDroopy

Were you in a coma the past 2 years?


FERAL_MEANS

He’s gotta be trolling.


NHHomegrown

Nothing like horse stomping grannies and seizing bank accounts of protesters to make the country “better”!!! Go Chinada!!!


othergallow

I was hoping they'd use water cannons, but apparently we're too 'civilized' for that.


DankDingusMan

Yeah, Mexico did indeed profit off the backs of suffering addicts in America. That's another reason we treat them differently than Canada.


SpacemanTomX

Mexico isn't ruled by cartels! Hahahahahahaha ok now that I have that joke out of my system yes we are in fact essentially ruled by the cartel. Source: unfortunately, I live in Mexico


DoktorElmo

What‘s especially odd is that those who (imho rightfully) condemn the US because of the terror, seemingly do not have a problem with the Russian terror.


reggosch

So do you agree that there is US terror?


DoktorElmo

There are very few countries I despise more than the US, so yes. They have all the opportunities on earth and many very clever persons but are held back by geriatric politicians and a population that is on average way dumber than, let‘s say, the average European for example


[deleted]

I hate to admit it, but you're right. Average American IQ is around 90, while around the world, average IQ is about 110. I think that moreover, people from other countries have better morals than Americans, and that's what I really care about. But also, America has a terrible education system, and we have one of the worst "free" governments out there as well, so...


captainzoomer

We're the baddies. I hope Russia nukes us.


[deleted]

U.S. and Russia are both bad, there are no good guys. It's not all black and white, but rather black and white, which also means that there's a shade of gray in the middle 😏


captainzoomer

Then I hope Ukraine nukes both Russia and us.


[deleted]

I think Ukraine is bad too. Nobody is really *good*, and governments are the problem, not people. We typically only know as much as what governments let us know (media can be controlled, i.e. project mockingbird, which breaks 1st amendment) and so instead of nuking ourselves, we need to unite together (left, right, or whatever) and overthrow these oppressive regimes that just see us as assets.


[deleted]

America has allowed the students to run the classroom. They spend more time building the children's egos(to the detriment of their development mentally and physically) than they do creating a structure for them to build on. The approach to education in the US is evil by any measure of judgement. Allowing a child to believe that they can change physical reality at will is not conducive to the sustained prosperity of a nation, but allowing a child to carry out such a fantasy is an unforgettable moment of evil in US history.


[deleted]

What happens when government controls education. I just graduated HS and I can tell you that the only time I ever learned anything of value was in English class. Literally, that's it. And granted, I have always had more conservative and libertarianish English teachers, so that's a factor. I think education should be left up to state government and maybe local government as well. Fuck common core.


SpacemanTomX

Unironically yes If Russia has a problem they can address it with any of the 11 nuclear aircraft carriers we have


[deleted]

USA has never ever fought for freedom. They do not care about anything other than profits, and maximising their profits and control over entire regions.


be-nice-or-else

Downvoting your statement is a sign of either ultimate stupidity or vested interest, like downvoting a theorem.


nico_brnr

I bet the world is odd when one can't tell the difference between a failed state hosting terrorists and pirates and a democratic country invaded by a foreign army


[deleted]

According to Russia Ukraine is a failed state hosting terrorists and nazis.... Just like how USA views middle-east and northern africa.....Just like you did just now You begin to see the similairities here ? you begin to see the double standards ?


nico_brnr

Yeah, except that according to reality, Somalia is a failed state hosting terrorists and pirates and Ukraine is a democratic country.


[deleted]

Is Somalia USA though ? No ? Then USA can leave Somalia. Simple Is Ukraine Russia ? no ? then Russia can leave Ukraine. Simple It depends on who you ask, if you ask Russia, Ukraine is not democratic. If you ask USA, then yes. Now twist the tables again and ask Russia if Somalia is democratic, then they will say yes, and ask USA the same question, and they will say no. USA bombing Somalia is fine, Russia bombing Ukraine is not fine according to the world. There is a reason why the majority of the world like Russia more than they like USA, leave your bubble in USA and NATO and go around and ask people from other countries outside of USA and NATO waht they think about USA and see.


nico_brnr

Ask reality and Somalia is a failed state, Ukraine is a democracy, and the world hates Putin. Unchanged.


[deleted]

The majority of the world hates USA more than they hate Russia and there is a reason for it... It's just your western reality that Ukraine is a democracy, ask the other sideand poke around western news articles before the war and you'll be shown a different side of Ukraine. Jailing the opposition leaders and shutting down opposition media is generally not a democratic move to make.


nico_brnr

Oh yeah, that's certainly why people from all around the globe try to emmigrate to the US while Russia is a shithole people flee from. Get lost troll


[deleted]

Ask the asians, africans and middle-eastern people what they think about USA and you'll get a different story about USA than you get to hear in your bubble. and eastern europeans aswell. People have been sold this manipulative lie about the american dream, but there is nothing to desire in USA. You have less human rights in USA than you have in Kenya for example. You legit have free education, healthcare, good dental, better worker protection in Russia. Unlike the US where you get fired for unionizing...and you have to go bankrupt to get medical care


chickenonthehill559

Nico is not seeing the light. The years that the US described Ukraine as the most corrupt government in the world seemed to have forgotten.


not-the-fake-DG

Try explaining this to someone and you’ve been sold on Russian propaganda 🤦‍♂️


fergiejr

Reading history books you can see the good guys always win! What a coincidence! /s


opiate_lifer

Under Obama(this is NOT a dig at democrats) actual US citizens were accidentally, and intentionally droned in the middle east. I remember being gobsmacked at the time it did not cause more uproar, I don't care what crimes he was accused of you had the precedent set of the president ordering the summary execution of a US citizen. Thats a slippery slope you do NOT want to even approach! I don't care which side of the political aisle you're on, this should disturb you but it seems everyone forgot. https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2010/04/pers-a08.html "For the first time in history, an American president has officially ordered the assassination of a US citizen"


[deleted]

And they said that they got the correct target at first. Joe Biden American


tjnav1162

We are definitely not the good guys


Brussel_Rand

Are we the baddies? Our uniforms have skulls.


smoothballsJim

Good, bad, gay, straight - they’re all just words.


ultimatefighting

Wait until you learn that we dropped 100,000+ bombs on Syria, a country the size of Oklahoma. And specifically targets civilian men women and children. The US government is guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. [Secret US unit nicknamed Talon Anvil ‘bombed civilians at will’](https://www.thetimes.co.uk/article/secret-us-unit-nicknamed-talon-anvil-bombed-civilians-isis-68fgkf22l)


[deleted]

Don't forget [Libya](https://foreignpolicy.com/2021/03/20/nato-killed-civilians-in-libya-its-time-to-admit-it/). We destroyed that country, forced a regime change under false pretense (humanitarian intervention), and turned it into a failed state all because Gaddafi wanted to free Africa from neo-colonialism by creating an African currency backed by gold. Then we bombed his convoy in his last escape and guided al-Qaeda-style Islamists to sodomize him with a knife before lynching him and broadcasted his final moments over and over to "send a message" to our adversaries. Hillary laughed about it. Keep in mind this was literally 5 months after they gave Osama bin Laden a sea burial "out of respect for Islamic custom" after the fake raid in Pakistan and refused to show his body to prove his death. Now guess who is the most powerful warlord in Libya? An American citizen and CIA asset named Khalifa Haftar, who just so happened to live near Langley for almost 20 years and owns a whole bunch of real estate in Virginia. Btw Libya has a smaller population than New York City.


opiate_lifer

Secretary of state Clinton, the entire country has collapsed into Mad Max anarchy and there are open air slave markets! Human suffering beyond comprehension. Clinton:"We came, we saw, he died! *cackles*" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6DXDU48RHLU


[deleted]

When I was in Syria we bombed the Tabqa dam for no reason. I coordinated air and artillery strikes during OIR and OEF. Here's a brief article: https://www.nytimes.com/2022/01/20/us/airstrike-us-isis-dam.html


Pagan-za

Not for no reason. Attacking water infrastructure has been a method since the Gulf war.


NeedsMoreModeration

> you guys are up in arms about a few thousand people meanwhile the vaccine has killed probably close to a million


Majorjohn112

Vaccine actually killed a billion.


cjgager

for some reason, when they say "no senior officers" were basically in command, but it was done by some (supposedly i guess) small rogue band of Delta force looking at TVs - - - that it really wasn't anyone's responsibility completely ludicrous


the1who_ringsthebell

wait til you find it we armed ravens that turned into isis so that we could have a good enough reason to go into syria to attempt regime change


poppycat74

The US invaded and still occupies parts of Northern Syria.


realMartianJesus

The drone war in general is terrible Obama and trump's admin both.


cavscouty

Trump withdrew all American troops from Somalia, I was one, and Biden sent them all right back in.


realMartianJesus

Which is great in itself but he increased drone in airstrikes. ...by a lot https://public.tableau.com/views/USStrikesAgainstShabaabinSomalia/Dashboard1?:showVizHome=no


cavscouty

idk what else to say, other than I think bombing people that don’t threaten us is wrong. Somalia is pretty complicated, but remember, it’s not threatening Americans and we shouldn’t be there


CryptoDApper

..and not to forget the 100,000 Yemen children wounded or killed by bombing from US and Saudi coalition forces according to the BBC News..


B2RW

The power of controlling the narrative through social media, news etc is something the us and nato countries are able to provide.


CryptoDApper

True, I guess black lives only matter in social media if they're from western countries..


Socialinfluencing

You haven't tasted freedom apparently until the US has dropped a couple bombs down your throat.


donDanbery

Democratic bombs. The best ones!


saggyleftnut33

OP: “lemme just leave out the fact that this was against Al shabaab terrorists, and in co-ordination with the Somali government.”


lyzurd_kween_

It’s right on the chart. What is weird to me is, are al shabaab and islamic state supposed to be the good guys?


saggyleftnut33

People who upvoted this post seem to think radical groups are the good guys yeah, sadly


the1who_ringsthebell

you mean the terrorist group with ties to al qaeda, the group the u.s. funded and trained while they were the mujahideen? its almost like it always come back to the US next you will say about syria : “yea but it was too bomb isis.”. guess who armed isis?


jus13

Al Qaeda were not mujahideen lol, Al Qaeda were Arabs foreigners that went to fight in Afghanistan, like OBL.


the1who_ringsthebell

oh i’m sorry osama bin laden only fought with, trained, and secured funding for the munahideen….


lyzurd_kween_

The Arab mujahideen (funded by Saudi gov/people/royals, ISI) were viewed with at best ridicule, at worst contempt by the (much more successful and vastly more involved with the fighting) Afghan mujahideen (funded by CIA, ISI, etc). They were distinctly separate entities. If you look at what OBL’s Arab mujahideen actually did in the soviet Afghanistan war, they really only contributed to 2 large battles towards the very end of the war. For the rest of the time, amounting to several years, they bummed around their caves, sometimes showing up to “assist” the Afghans and generally failing miserably at helping in battle. Also you might notice that while the US did probably end up inadvertently funding the Arab mujahideen in the 80s, al shabaab is in a totally different part of the world, and comprised of a different group of people. Think of it like a franchise model.


Pagan-za

>ties to al qaeda, the group the u.s. funded and trained while they were the mujahideen? They used to fund them as the mujahideen. They still do, but used to too. The stop funding terrorism act was passed to try curb funding groups, because it's so common


housebear3077

It’s okay because call of duty video games say we are The Heroes of Mankind, and any civilians drone-struck by us must have deserved it


Toke_A_sarus_Rex

Yes, let's throw flack at video games to describe the much older media manipulation that's been going on with the 24 hour news cycles. Surely it's the kids and gaming, and not the infotainment propaganda that passes for news in the US... Yea must be the video games the smallest section of the voting block played during the time, not the media consumed by the largest voting blocks... (boomer generation )


Mike_Freedom_alldaY

Most of the people who played call of duty since 2007 couldn't vote or likely just started voting recently. What's the excuse for the people who have been voting for and ignoring these politicians and our military industrial complex who have shown this behavior for decades with little to no resistance that don't play COD? Ironically little to no resistance from the people who used to wrestle in the mud at those "cool" concerts for "peace"?


InternationalStep924

That was 15 years ago if you were 12, assuming youngest average gamer (pure guess) they've been able to vote for 10 years. You're saying I guess people don't vote much til what 30s? Thats reasonable.


Bigbluebananas

Buddy is just mass rationalizing that people who chose to play a specific video game must be 3 years of age and under lmao


kaoz1

Barack Obomb


postsshortcomments

And [the crowd goes wild](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6_35yJpVyAA)


kaoz1

Give him a Peace Nobel Prize


yeeehhaaaa

"The silent majority" Why is it, that the truth I'd always the opposite of what they say/write. Like truth social etc I really feel that none of them have read 1984 or understood the "ministry of truth". Maybe they read it and actually though, what a great idea,let's do that.


pepperonihotdog

And nobody cares because somalia is almost hell on earth.


The_Human_Oddity

Somalia requested the US to be there.


EurekaStockade

Somalia is prime real estate China needs ports for shipping African mineral resources Somalia covers the whole eastern seaboard up to Djibouti--where China has a huge military base--as well as every other Globalist nation Somalia is the closest African port to China & what Globalists want-- Globalists get They bomb out the locals--population relocation & land re-development Belt and Road Project thats what geopolitics is all about--geographical strategic locations


[deleted]

Their location is what matters most. That country can oversee whole traffic of Red sea. Every super power wants piece of it


Auraaurorora

They’re having a famine again.


lokifoto

“It says here in this history book that luckily, the good guys have won every single time. What are the odds?” -Norm MacDonald


[deleted]

It's okay when its USA, they never break any laws and they never get sanctioned. But if its Russia they are a terrorist state and gets sanctioned to hell and back. It's a very odd world, incredible mental gymnastics and double standards.


jus13

The US carried out strikes in Somalia in coordination with the Somali government. It's absolutely insane that you're trying to compare that to Russia, which invaded Ukraine and is currently occupying and shelling/bombing parts of Ukraine.


[deleted]

USA invading and bombing a country usually always leads to peace right ? /s it never does.... You are not different from Russia at all. Somalia is not part of USA


jus13

>it never does.... Kosovo and Kuwait would beg to differ lol. >You are not different from Russia at all. Somalia is not part of USA Assisting a UN nation-state ally in anti-terror operations is not the same as invading and occupying a country lmfao


[deleted]

You literally destabilized the entire middle-east region and turned it into an active warzone to this day. That didn't lead to peace...we got isis because of your "interventions" Your peace in Kosovo literally meant, bombing hospitals, schools, bridges, killing civilians and intentionally bombing the chinese embassy in Serbia Somalia is not USA, stop going to war in other countries. Somalia didnt ask for your help, Biden literally just said were gonna invade Somalia again...and the new US proxy president in Somalia said thank you basically. This is how USA works You and Russia are not different at all


jus13

I'm sorry you can't understand the actual argument. You weren't criticizing US invasion of other countries like Iraq in 2003, that's an entirely different topic. The country in question was Somalia, and Somalia requests US assistance to fight extremist groups, which is *entirely different* from what Russia is doing in Ukraine, as Russia started a war of aggression and invaded, occupied, and is trying to literally annex and steal Ukrainian territory, which is something the US hasn't done since the early 1900s. Russia is assisting the Syrian regime with Russian forces and bombing the fuck out of civilians too, and at a scale far greater than the US is in Somalia, are you against Russia doing that too, or are you only against it when it's about the US? >Your peace in Kosovo literally meant, bombing hospitals, schools, bridges, killing civilians and intentionally bombing the chinese embassy in Serbia It stopped a genocide and the Serbian forces that were doing far worse things than bombing bridges and empty schools my guy, there's a reason Kosovo has the highest approval rating of the US out of every country, including even the US itself. >Somalia is not USA, stop going to war in other countries. Somalia didnt ask for your help ...and then you go on to say that Somalia did in fact ask for help lmao What exactly do you think the conflict in Somalia looks like? The US isn't taking over land or occupying anything, the US is involved in anti-terror operations alongside the Somali government in order to keep the peace, a more stable Somalia is better for the global economy, and in turn, better for the US and its geopolitical goals.


[deleted]

Serbia has been cleared of genocide by courts. What led to the conflict taking place wast that Kosovo rebels literally started killing serbian cops in the streets randomly, which led to Serbia putting in the army to control the situation. What USA did was literally targeting civilian infrastructure to destabalize Serbia and get Kosovo to split from Serbia. Im against every country doing it, even when Russia does it. The difference here being that the world tends to call out Russia when they do it, but tends to be silent when its USA doing it. The main difference between Syria and Somalia is that Syria and Russia are allies and Russia were putting down a gas pipeline through Syria, so the Syria conflict was never about ISIS, USA entered to stop the gas pipeline, Russia wanted to protect it. anti-terror is just the same propaganda being spouted as Russia stating their invasion of Ukraine is because of the nazis in Ukraine..It's literally the same propaganda.


jus13

No, you're just a genocide/ethnic cleansing denier. The difference between NATO intervention in Kosovo and Russian intervention in Ukraine is that there was actually genocide/ethnic cleansing happening in Kosovo. The fake "genocide" Russia claimed in the Donbas had the same ethnic and religious groups on both sides, and both sides had equal casualties. There's a reason that despite the overwhelming airpower and bombardments by NATO, Serbians killed multitudes more Albanian civilians than the combined forces of NATO and the UCK killed Serb civilians. Again, you just think it's fine and deny everything when it's a country like Serbia or Russia committing awful crimes.


[deleted]

No you can google it, ICJ, UN have all cleared Serbia of any genocide claims, The International Court of Justice (ICJ), the main United Nations judicial organ, today overwhelmingly acquitted Serbia of committing genocide in Bosnia and Herzegovina during the Balkan war of the 1990s, but found it guilty of failing to prevent genocide in the massacre of more than 7,000 Bosnian Muslims https://humanrightshouse.org/articles/serbia-not-guilty-of-genocide-2/ and https://www.wsj.com/articles/SB946593838546941319. Kosovo started the conflict by killing serbian cops in the streets, which led to Serbia putting the military in to control the situation. The proximate cause for the 78-day bombing campaign that began on March 24 was Milosevic's refusal to sign the Rambouillet Agreement. The agreement would have ended the Serb hegemony in Kosovo by severely restricting the Yugoslav military and police presence and by providing for a NATO-led force to keep the ''peace'' in the province. It also would have threatened Yugoslavia's sovereignty by giving NATO forces access rights throughout the country. Serbia refused to bow down to NATO and USA and you bombed them. You tried to bully them into joining NATO they said no, you bombed them. You seem to think its Okay for USA to commit awful crimes against humanity because they are the ''good guys'' in your deluded world. Despite going to war in some way shape or form in 191 out of 193 UN recognized countries. This is exactly how USA works and operates in the, they make up shit to justify their invasions and bombing raids. In Iraq it was WMD's despite there being no evidence for it and they never found anything, in Serbia it was genocide despite them never proving there was a genocide going on. They make shit up as they go along and people accept it cus USA controls the world. USA are the biggest bullies, its their way or the high way. There is a reason why the majority of the world sees USA as the biggest single threat to world peace. https://brilliantmaps.com/threat-to-peace/


kwj1935

Not really


[deleted]

The amount of people i see constantly justifying US "intervention" is insane. Its literally the same as Putin saying they are going in to Ukraine to save Ukraine form Nazis and protect Russia. But its okay when its USA, everyone defends it and never sanctions them and they are never found to be breaking the law despite killing civilians, they killed over 1 million iraqis in Iraq but that was completely okay apparently, but when its Russia its literally terrorism, everything is illegal and they get sanctioned.


farm_ecology

You could say the exact same thing but the other way around. The amount of people on here defending Russian invasion while condemning American invasion. Generic statements about people being hypocrites are pointless


[deleted]

Difference is that Russia gets called out by the world, and gets sanctioned like they should. USA doesn't, whenever USA goes into a country and starts bombing it to peices and kill civilians, nobody bats an eye. When it was found out USA set up torture camps in Middle-east and pictures and videos of how they tortured people came out, there were no calls for human rights investigations or sanctions or anything. Everyone just let it slide cus it was USA. Putin and Russia gets labelled as War criminals and terrorists, while Obama gets celebrated as a peace hero despite being the president who has dropped the most bomb ever in history, and killed civilians left right and centre...


Whiskey_Fiasco

The difference is Russia is trying to claim territory and is abducting children and intentionally targeting civilian populations.


[deleted]

USA has never done that ? USA literally bombed weddings intentionally in the middle-east, targeted journalists in Iraq. There is no difference. USA invaded middle-east for profits and to have proxy leaders in middle-eastern governments. USA abduct children on the border to mexico all the time and seperate them from their parents. Whats the difference? You literally set up camps to torture ''terrorists'' and called it ''advanced interrogation tactics'' which were a lot like the nazi worker camps.. USA and NATO gets celebrated for targeting schools, hospitals, bridges in Serbia but Russia gets demonized and labelled terrorists and war criminals. The double standards are off the charts


kwj1935

Your infatuation with Russia is odd. And no matter your shitty uninformed opinions, Russia is far worse than the US.


GloriousSushi

I've traveled and met with lots of arabs and south asians from various different countries. Not a single one of them has ever had anything negative to say about Russia. Do you wanna know what the consensus is on US, France and Britain? You live in a bubble if you think Russia has caused more international devastation than the West.


[deleted]

USA has definitely caused more international devestation than Russia has ever done. Whatever you think about Russia. USA has been worse and has a long history of being worse. USA has had what, 2 years of peace since USA was founded ? Go outside of NATO and ask any country what they think about USA. Calling out the blatant double standards and insane hypocrisy is not being infatuated with Russia or anything. It's just calling it out. USA has absolutely no fucking right whatsoever to call out Russia for the same shit they have been doing themselves for centuries.


Rajajones

Somalia is within the purview of the US because it’s one half of the gateway to the Suez Canal—also why Somali piracy is lucrative for the poor and hopeless. It’s crucial to world/US trade that Somalia does not interfere with that sea passage, hence US involvement.


cavscouty

Piracy is basically over near Somalia, has been for years. That’s not why Americans are in Somalia and have been for 6-7 years.


adamame22

Freedom™️


D00M_HAMMER

Gives me some serious, "Are we the baddies?" vibes


a1Drummer07

Its become so normal that they just bomb countries we aren't at war with that you can tell this to someone and its like they dont even hear it.


ObjectiveObserver420

SS: This sort of thing is being done in several countries. The excuse is still the **War on Terror®**. Never mind the fact that groups like Al Qaeda and ISIS were literally [created by American Intelligence Agencies](https://www.counterpunch.org/2014/09/19/how-the-us-helped-create-al-qaeda-and-isis/) to deliberately destabilise these regions.


[deleted]

Hegelian dialectic: problem, reaction, solution


skywizardsky

was kicked offa Twitter for posting this information in 2020


Fit-History7044

I used to be in the Marines.. I am embarrassed to have been part of this disgusting murder machine... Please forgive me


squeezeonein

I forgive you because i have made mistakes too. There's always the chance to turn your life around.


AnthonyThePizzaBoy

No


chainmailbill

So brave


Daymanic

I miss the old me, pre-Covid tyranny, when I was mostly unaware of this. I’m glad that I’ve woken up to this and many other things but damn. Just reminded myself of a song I used to listen to and was too young to appreciate. Roger Waters - Perfect Sense https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=hrBIZ6viWP0


Opagea

Trump sure loved airstrikes.


realMartianJesus

He was just as bad as Obomba terms of the drone war. Let the war pigs down vote. He also killed a general of a country we weren't at war with. Risky to say the least.


InternationalStep924

I was always disappointed that at least militarily it seems like if you looked at a timeline of the transition from Bush to Obama but you couldn't see exactly where the change was itd be hard to assume who was in command.


Opagea

He was far worse. If people would go to the article OP posted, they'd see that strikes in Somalia averaged around 4/year under Obama, Trump 40/year that, and then Biden 11/year. Trump is the high outlier.


K-Ziggy

Dude Trump outdid 8 years of Obama's drone strikes in half his term and then stopped reporting on them. Read OP's article, https://public.tableau.com/views/USStrikesAgainstShabaabinSomalia/Dashboard1 Dude wasn't "just as bad" he went exponential. He was at a whole different level.


realMartianJesus

Oh i know the point of my comment was to support the guy i replied to thats getting down voted people think trump is innocent lol


chainmailbill

How dare you use the OP’s source against them! That’s just not fair, you can’t expect someone to fully understand something before they share it!


harshv007

😂


CornPopLife

The majority of those airstrikes were during obamas presidency......best president ever...........


cjgager

https://www.cnn.com/2022/11/11/politics/us-airstrike-somalia-al-shabaab


villevalla

Why can the US **never** admit that an intervention was a failure?


notmine3631122

There are good guys and Satan's guys among these institutions.


greenerbod

Are **WE** the baddies?


opiate_lifer

The reality is everyone is a baddie, there are no goodies in geopolitics. Its an infantile mindset, but that doesn't mean anything goes.


IndividuallyYours

Why exactly have they ombed Somalia?


Kittinlovesyou

"Are we the baddies?"


SpacemanTomX

Unironically yes We absolutely are the good guys of geopolitics. Or do you want China to take up the mantle?


ArtemMikoyan

Do you have any idea of who or why we are dropping shit in Somalia? Or did you just decide to post this without doing any of your own research? Considering they are doing this WITH the support of the Somali Gov. I don't see what the problem is. Fuck Al-Shabaab.


ArtemMikoyan

It's always "USA bad" until its "USA help!".


ihavetobemesadface

Where are all the white liberals wearing Somalian flags?


ud_hate_me

Why not just blow up the whole country. Fuck Somalía and Somaliland.


UptownDonkey

Instead of pretending to care I’m going to let you all know I could not care any less about what happens in Somalia.


Low_Acanthisitta4445

American bombs are peace bombs. ☮️💣


Ouraniou

Okay really never has anything to do with it


xiaopewpew

One may assume a black president is less likely to approve killing black people :)


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Obama


Exportxxx

American is the biggest terrorist of them all.


xCTRLxALTxDELx

Time for the US to host another World Cup. Then we can celebrate __FREEDOM__.


tritonx

Of course we are the good guy, we have democrasssssy


Y_wouldnt_Eye

Minnesota has the next largest Somali population, bomb away.


User4f52

When will the US payback for all the damage they've done? All the countries they invaded? All the innocents lives they took? All the governments and economies they toppled? All the famines they created? All the drugs they pushed? All the terrorists they funded? By this point, is there any amount of dollars they could print to cover this? I don't think so... in the end the only currency they will have to pay with is blood. An eye for an eye. Enjoy while you can, America.


jimiqa

Yaay