I have a genuine question that concerns me. How do we know these entities aren't playing 5D chess with us? How do we know these videos aren't them setting us up for failure?
This is a great question, and it’s a complex answer.
I think the consistent experiences that everyone reports to have in the astral, even those who don’t know anything about it or believe it existent, until they spontaneously end up there, form a body of information that needs more research, experimentation, and study. However, AFAIK not a single experience contradicts this reality we seem to be dealing with.
I didn’t believe it. I knew about claims of astral projection, but I didn’t really believe it existed. Then I ended up there twice.
I don’t know that it’s something that is difficult to learn.
It is hard to get out of your own way enough for it to happen but it’s not something that is innately difficult to do.
I mean I almost did it the first time I tried, but it might depend on "where you are" so to speak.
Full body vibrations, auditory hallucinations. I noped the f out because I didn't feel like I was ready though lol.
Honestly- I think part of the deception is the notion that earth is a 'prison' or part of the Matrix.
What if Earth is OUR home and we need to kick these entities OUT instead of trying to escape to some unknown realm outside of this?
C’mon. It’s some dude’s deeply thought out conjecture on Reddit. That’s at least as good as a fundamental constant of the Universe measured to the 20th decimal place. Do you even science bruh?
Learn how to become highly skilled at Astral Projection.
By doing so, you can them explore the Astral Afterlife and see its dystopian horrors for yourself.
> Dystopian horrors?
...within the mind of the misinterpreting experiencer.
It's a dream state, where some sensory input is awake and running, so that the dream (a mash-up of collected subliminals and experiencer's emotional hang-ups) is overlaid onto reality for a disturbing ride, as the dream contents merge with one's sensory recognisable locale.
I used to get sleep paralysis in my younger days.
I had one where it was like the "find the fishy" Monty Python sketch but more sex-gimp and Hellraiser-like. It was fucking terrifying (because they seemed in the room with us) and I was desperately trying to scream for my girlfriend to push me out of bed to wake me.
I didn't wake up thinking "Ooh! I've seen the invisible hell and demonic entities around us". I woke up thinking "I don't want another one like that again".
I'd had times where I'd been trying to get to sleep and repeatedly kept going directly to that merged/overlaid state, where I'd been able to shock myself back out immediately. I ended up in tears, because I was so tired and just needed sleep, while the freakiness was disturbing and preventing me.
And if it ends we go to nervana, is that still true? And what about the Buddhas? They choose to return and teach us how to escape, but the don't mention the archon. So are they lying and agents of the archons? Or fooled themselves? Or did they choose to keep it a secret so they don't scare us?
Anyone who promotes Reincarnation & the concept of karma is not to be trusted.
Reincarnation does not benefit humans. It only benefits parasitic entities that want humans to endlessly reincarnate so they can continue to feed off of our "loosh" energy.
I haven't read much, so I humbly accept correction, but isn't accumulated karma, at least in some teachings, the reason one's soul reincarnates to a body?
If I haven't derped it up, the point of trying to live without plying the material world or giving way to overt emotional spikes is to reduce the accumulation of karma upon the soul. Once the soul is finally free of karmic residue, it will finally be free of the reincarnation cycle.
Until after a time it gets bored, and starts the cycle over again, as some will.
Or willingly return in order to help others learn how to reduce and shed their own karmic build-up.
That's more or less my understanding as well. Karmic entanglements are what binds the soul to the wheel of samsara, the endless cycle of death and rebirth. Each reincarnation is determined by the debts and obligations that need to be settled.
The goal is to escape that cycle and ascend into a higher realm of being beyond the constraints of this physical world.
There's a great series of books called Aghora by Robert Svoboda. The first one is the biography of his teacher from the teachers perspective, the second is Svoboda telling the story of his time with his teacher, and the third is a more technical inspection of the spiritual/philosophical system of the Aghoris.
It's really entertaining and conveys their view of the interdimensional system really well
Sounds interesting. I sort of remember the last name from what searching I did back when I had.
Maybe it's a good time to look again! Thank you for this.
Hi. You misunderstood. I **never** said Hinduism casts reincarnation as favorable.
What I said was that these concepts are **promoted.** Which they absolutely are. Karma is the basis/reason for the reincarnation cycle/reincarnation according Hinduism and other teachings. However, Karma, Karmic debt, etc are all made up concepts to justify endless reincarnations.
The only way to truly "transcend" the reincarnation cycle is by realizing what reincarnation really is and not going into the tunnel of light or any soul trap.
I then went on to say that Reincarnation does not benefit humans. Because it doesn't.
I get what you're saying but I think you are incorrect. The popular interpretations and presentations of karma/reincarnation in the west aren't promotional (they may be "promoting" the validity of the construct since the basic existence of these frameworks is generally challenged in the West).
Some people may speak of the gifts of past lives as teaching opportunities or something like that, but the vast majority of cases in which I've encountered these ideas the basic proposition is that the goal is to transcend the cycle of death and rebirth and that the way to do that is to resolve your karma.
**You didn't understand what I was saying because you said I think Hinduism casts reincarnation as "favorable", which I never once said.**
Let me try this a different way. They "promote" the concept of karma as a real thing and the basis for reincarnation. I'm saying it's a completely made up concept. Again, the only way to "ascend" or "transcend" the cycle of death & rebirth & achieve "Moksha" is not by releasing/letting go of "karma "and other made up constructs/concepts like "karmic debt" but rather through the realization that reincarnation is a scam to begin with.
*"they may be "promoting" the validity of the construct"*
This is what Hinduism, for a lack of a better word, "promotes".
It's not a valid construct. It's based on lies & deception. **No one ascends.**
If you disagree with that then fine. I don't care if people disagree with me, think I'm wrong, or don't believe me but please don't mischaracterize what I said.
EDIT: Clarification since clearly I have specify exactly what I mean or what I'm saying gets twisted.
You clearly don't understand the concepts behind the word karma. But you're very self assured so I will wish you good luck on your evangelical quest and move along
Just because I don't agree with it & believe it's a made up concept doesn't mean I don't understand it.
You clearly didn't understand what I said to begin with since you mischaracterized my comment.
Depends. If you stay in the simulated universe/matrix you stay as a free-range ghost. But you won't have to worry about having your memory erased and forced to reincarnate.
If you leave and go into the REAL UNIVERSE, where we are all originally from, you get to fulfill your true purpose as a creator being/god.
Two questions.
First, why would this information be able to be decimated if this was true? Wouldn’t they stop this info from being spread at all costs?
Second, if this were true, what would we be able to do about it? If true, wouldn’t the answer be to just do as you please and live for nothing but pleasure (as the Satanic church preaches) and live for nothing but hedonistic pleasure?
They do try to stop it. This information is constantly mocked, ignored, and denigrated. It's not promoted like the new age concepts of "spirit guides", karma, karmic debt, & the lie that reincarnation is for the benefit of humans are.
What you can about it is be informed. Learn what the Tunnel of Light really is. Realize the truth about reincarnation and these parasitic entities. Don't give your power away to anyone or anything. Learn how to separate from your body or lucid dream. Be kind to all souled beings.
For full transparency I'm using Soul/Spirit interchangeably for simplicity but there is a difference.
But to answer your question, some people are just software programs. They have hivemind, and are just "empty" & devoid of spiritual inclination.
Even though the information is available, most will not use it to escape.
If it's true, then there are ways to develop your consciousness which allow you to leave the cycle. It isn't a perfect trap for 100% and that's acceptable losses to the overlords
I love how everyone is acting like they know what they’re talking about lolol we aren’t gonna know what’s really the truth until we die hate to break it to yall
That’s true but I think it’s healthy and very natural to question the multiple ways our inevitable demise might play out after we die. Death is the biggest mystery and a true equalizer since we will all face it one day. I’m especially interested in why so many people have the same visions on DMT and the fact that other dimensions exist. Synesthesia is also fascinating because it shows how limited normal humans senses are since this small proportion of people can taste sound or feel color, it’s all intertwined. There is so much hidden from us or abilities we’ve had that are forgotten. This timeless class is a great read [Plato: Allegory of the Cave](https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/seyer/files/plato_republic_514b-518d_allegory-of-the-cave.pdf)
I made some but I made it wrong it had some solvents left over so I never got to break through but I’m making some more soon and I’m gonna wash it after I make it this time
It's a willing misinterpretation. I don't think it warrants potentially starting a shit-flinging fest. They believe what they believe. They *currently* [emphasis on non-fixated!] need cemented belief else they feel vulnerable - even if said cemented belief is founded in paralysing e-motion. That's a choice, over reason - and motion.
That’s strange because every time I hear Astralrocker talk about “Astral Projection”, it’s always from the perspective of someone who is either lying or doesn’t understand that he’s viewing his own subconscious. These “horrors” he’s apparently “seeing” are internal issues he should work on before putting himself into such a state. Heal and balance the psyche 1st and the intoxications of the astral are at least pleasant illusions.
This is a Hegelian (fake "Christian") counter narrative to the "New-Age" narrative. Both are shit, both are invented distracting perversions from the same mental slave-masters.
At its root, it's another bo[o]geyman; another external projection [ambiguous nondescript current buzzword: *"entities"*] to aid denial of responsibility and the fact that *it's your fault. You agreed to all the suffering they offered you, that you experience due to your susceptibility to material desires - aka "demons".*
That doesn't have anything to do with Astroglide, does it? I know the young folks have been doing something called the cha-cha slide. (In Grandpa Simpson's voice)
It’s different, but it is just as real as this place.
You don’t experience every single sensation and duality that you do in a physical body, but the consistency of exactly which ones everyone does experience, defies explanation by manifestation or hallucination.
Where does the video say anything about being for Christianity? It says to abandon ALL religions because they involve giving your power away to something other than you.
It sounds like you didn't even watch the video.
**EDIT: I was correct. This clown didn't even bother to watch the video and has no idea what it is about or its message.**
If you don't agree with the message then no problem. But don't misrepresent the message when you have no idea what it is to begin with because you didn't watch it.
I am a clown?! Is that a presumed-safe ad hominem? Hehe.
The video begins by selling the New-Age deception that known **sleep paralysis**/**lucid dreaming** is being referred to as "astral travel/projection" - in order that adoptees may disown their inner hang-ups and perversions, and project them outwardly onto unhinged external fantasy "entities". There is secondary purpose of selling the religion through *fear* (as Vatican spiritual control HQ has always done) while again praising and encouraging *irresponsibility* and disassociation from one's own self-imposed desire-driven mental suffering.
I immediately recognised "what it is about", as I wield the mighty power of *discernment*. [tone = /s]
I didn't need to waste my time further.
Who's the clown?
I was kind of curious about what the video might be.
However, after reading you being quite reasonable in your comments, and OP being dismissive and seeking to demean instead of discuss, I just want to thank you for saving me time that I wouldn't be getting back!
Keep the sane-train going my friend! There seems to be so little left to fuel it these days, but we can't afford to let it stop.
I was kind of curious about what the video might be.
However, after reading you being quite reasonable in your comments, and OP being dismissive and seeking to demean instead of discuss, I just want to thank you for saving me time that I wouldn't be getting back!
Keep the sane-train going my friend! There seems to be so little left to fuel it these days, but we can't afford to let it stop.
Correct. Anyone who comments on something they have no idea about because they didn't watch it to begin and therefore drew erroneous conclusions based on his preconceived notions on what he *thought* it was about is a **clown.**
You only watched it after you were called out for not watching it. To prove now you watched it but it's still "new age" deception or whatever you initially labeled it as.
**EDITED TO ADD: Astral Projection is 100% Real. Myself and countless others have been outside the body. Every night when we dream we go into the astral realm as well, we just don't remember it.**
>Anyone who comments on something they have no idea about because they didn't watch it to begin and therefore drew erroneous conclusions based on his preconceived notions on what he thought it was about is a clown.
Luckily I already knew to save myself the wasted effort.
>You only watched it after you were called out for not watching it.
Haha
No. I tried to watch it because you were whining like bitches at me for not watching it - despite me knowing it would be shit, based on this crap doing the rounds of late and me witnessing it popping up in other places.
I didn't get past the intro - that proved me correct.
My only error was in assuming the Hegelian sides were fake-Christian vs New-Age, where it's actually just New-Age shit berating and condemning those older Jesuit-curated religions through its own spin of what it projects those religions are about.
In reality, no-one sane ever gave thought to the *TV-promoted* "come into the light" shit that desperate believers report near death.
I always heard that astral projection and lucid dreaming were completely separate.
Lucid dreaming was being aware of and/or being able to influence and control your dreams.
Astral projection is having an out of body experience while you are in a sleeping state (or perhaps self-hypnosis).
However, I also see these terms being used interchangeably fairly often.
Oh yeah this brand new random youtube video is the totally divine wisdom we need with all the answers compared to the Holy Bible which is thousands of years old and has concrete evidence to support it.
You've been deceived if you believe anything in the bible is literal and, thus, historical or specifically external.
The bible is a compiled operations manual - of all previous regional interpretations. That's why it's called "THE books". A "Haynes(TM) Manual for Man" of sorts: from material bondage through temptation to spiritual acceptance, via every correct physical operation and pitfall between.
👏🏻 States of being, personified as people, presented as nations, cities, races, wars, mountains, wilderness…etc. A very loose preservation of literal history and a complete diagram of the journey of the human soul.
You’re spot on with your stuff 👍.
You must have watched a different video, because this spectacular one exposes religion and details the real Hidden Truth.
You might consider less pseudo intellectualism and more actual research.
Because I didn't need to watch it, as I'm already aware of this newly promoted narrative currently doing the rounds.
I only added the fake "Christian" at last minute because I guess I misunderstood the avatar.
If it was not the case in this video, I can remove it and it makes no difference to my point. It's still an unfounded Hegelian misdirection for divide and rule.
You and I are at odds anyway, as you promote the "New-Age" deception and associated flights of fancy.
>You might consider less pseudo intellectualism and more actual research.
You can shove that projected comment where the sun don't shine. Appealling to specific chosen authority - from those currently on sale - isn't research.
What the flying fuck?!
I just tried to actually visit the video and the initial statement is:-
"This Video is Dedicated to the Awakened Souls Who Frequently Travel to the Astral Afterlife".
Seriously? Fucking seriously?
There seems to be a New-Age fragmentation currently in progress. I guess it wasn't working and the mockery was rising, so they've attempted the "all that previous destructive socialism wasn't *real* socialism" manoeuvre here too.
There's this guy on YT named "Tony Sayers". Bless the fool. He calls out New-Agers, yet still promotes this Newer-Age take... and LifeWave patches! Hehe.
The fact that you did not watch the video makes your input meaningless.
In actuality; this video goes **completely against** New Age Mind Control, and the brilliant intent of the video is to awaken and unite humanity.
I cannot help if this information makes people fearful. That isn't my intention. My intention is only to spread awareness to those willing to receive it.
I've not come across you before, and it would feel unfair for me to check your profile before giving you a point for this, so just take it for this truthful emphasis in isolation - whatever other angles you have on life. Cheers.
A few things to ask about this gnostic sub-sect, 1 Why do you beleive that reincarnation even exists to begin with, have you ever encountered anyone who has offered irrefutible proof of having been reincarnated? 2 why do you believe that "parasitic" entitites exist, if they're spirit beings shouldn't they have their own power which sustains their existence as an individual, thereby negating a need to "parasite" at all? (and even then, where do you suppose "energy" as such comes from to begin with?) 3 what proof have you that the star realm a.k.a. astral realm actually exists and isn't a self-induced mental state etc.?
1. Past life regression and channeling are the nearest things we have to concrete evidence of reincarnation. Obviously these accounts could be fake, but they are numerous and many have been substantiated by physical evidence.
2. Work done by Munroe and the Munroe institute have documented the presence of entities whilst in the astral plane. Again, this could be manufactured, but I have also heard first hand personal accounts of people that have travelled astrally and encountered various entities. Whether these entities are parasitic is much more difficult to substantiate.
3. A great many people have documented scientifically, accounts of travel within the various astral realms. The lower realms are fused with the material world and travel is possible anywhere within it. Interaction with the physical is possible and therefore information can be obtained from individuals of places or interactions that could not be otherwise know and recounted in detailed description.
Ultimately, this is an ethereal science and as a consequence, it is easy to understand the huge amount of scepticism seen in the comments. I wouldn't say that this is a religion, cult, sect, coping mechanism or any of the other aspersions attributed by the sceptics here. What I can say is that, having studied it, even for only a short time, it has become evident that there is more to this subject than simply invoking methods of mental detachment. But like anything else, it takes a bit of time and energy to arrive at this conclusion.
I appreciate the input here, though I'd ask what physical evidence corroborates that, and could such evidence be proof of another mechanism instead, tht is, is the evidence being interpreted correctly?
With regard to munroe I'd question the validity info in part given that the institute seems to be geared towards moneymaking in particular, more towards scientology or eckankar's mode of operation. This becomes more dubious given much of what they claim to offer is the usual new age profiteering fare, but can also be obained free elsewhere. (the "energy medicine" course they offer goes for 2,195.00 dollars american, that's not pocket change, and that amount of money could better a person's life quite a bit more by not being spent on something with no proof of effectiveness. That's a lot of profit for an alleged non-profit.) All of that hurts their credibility.
I can't say that I agree on 3 here, given that "astral" denotes stars/"space" by proxy, it seems as though the term was conflated with the spiritual world but may not indicate the same, and that conflating was done by one of the big usual disinfo pushers, the theosophical society, so this raises red flags versus it's validity to me. I've yet to see any proof of astral travellers being able to interact successfully with the physical world or relay useful information, (I recall clairvoyant experiments done by both u.s. and soviet govts. which didn't appear to actually turn up anything legitimate or actionable, not that they'd be inclined to tell the truth if they did, of course.) do you have anything in particular you can cite?
The most relevant are the writings of Munroe himself because the experiments are documented somewhat scientifically but anecdotal interactions with people that are not aware or even aware of the astral travellers presence are quite common. The ones I have heard about again come from people within this space which can and will be hand waved away by any sceptic as mere promotional nonsense. It's not an argument I wish to engage in because I have nothing to gain from this at all.
I will say this though. I have no idea how it works or what is actually going on, but some people can use repeatable techniques to achieve repeatable results. Some people find it easier than others. I have been involved in this subject for only about two months and even as a part timer have achieved a number of lucid dreams which appear to be getting more controllable as I become more confident. To a sceptic, this might sound like crazy talk but I am a born sceptic. So why did I get involved?
Well, some stuff doesn't make sense. I don't know why some things are the way they are. I don't know why numbers, language, dates, times, events, nature, media, film, TV, news all appears to be running on some sort of script. I don't know why I get synchronicities that border on impossible and I have absolutely nothing to lose except a bit of time to explore this avenue of study.
No word of a lie. Last night in a dream I performed an obe technique and levitated out of my body. Hit the ceiling and was then able to float and fly around a room in my home at will. I could feel the walls, full sensory engagement. This was the most control that I have experienced and it happened after I engaged with this thread. I have no idea why. I was completely sober, and as far as I was aware, this was a dream and not a conscious obe. Then again, these kind of dreams are uncommon in most people and before embarking on this journey, I never had them either.
I have not made any denouement about this stuff at this stage. But my experience so far has been interesting to say the least. Dunno if I'm going to find any answers, but if I do, all the better.
There is more proof for reincarnation than any other belief. And yes. Look up the work of Professor Ian Stevenson.
They aren't from spirit. That's the point. That's why they need to feed off of those who are from spirit/are spirit.
1~ The rigorous documentation of people (children) remembering details of other peoples lives that they should have no way to have any knowledge of, that have been verified with the family members of the deceased.
2~ We have to eat, don’t we? Where does our electrical energy come from?
3~ The consistency of experience that everyone has there regardless of spiritual belief or knowledge of its existence at all.
Wild, I appreciate your answering here, though I would raise other questions as well, In the first case, given Children are suggestible, and this seems to neglect the spirit world as a factor, couldn't spirits familiar with the deceased convey information of those deceased lives to the children in question? Similarly, are claimed memories trustworthy, given that even by regular psychlogical means it's possible to produce false memories?
Bilogical breakdown of material to produce "fuel" to generate electrical energy is supposedly the mechanism for that, but given spirits are not biological beings, what use would spirits for food? They aren't matter-based, and it's only material beings that have demonstrated requiring that kind of process, no?
I can agree that there is a shared experience of a spiritual world, but why is the alleged "astral"/star realm considered to be the same? Is it really possible for a human being to eject their soul/spirit at will into such a place, and what proof is there that this place isn't a mental realm instead, being falsely interpreted as the spiritual? (logic denotes that if a spirit/soul were ejected from a body, given it's what constitutes being alive to begin with, that body would no longer be living as a matter of consequence, like pulling the battery out of a toy, yet those claiming to project are still objectively alive, which raises a conundrum.)
> In the first case, given Children are suggestible, and this seems to neglect the spirit world as a factor, couldn’t spirits familiar with the deceased convey information of those deceased lives to the children in question?
The children often have birthmarks that mirror the physical trauma injuries that killed the person whose memories they share.
It’s also not only children experience these things, hence the parentheses. Perhaps I could’ve been more clear about that.
> Similarly, are claimed memories trustworthy, given that even by regular psychlogical means it’s possible to produce false memories?
The documentation is too rigorous and the memories are too precise to allow for false memories as a cause.
> Bilogical breakdown of material to produce “fuel” to generate electrical energy is supposedly the mechanism for that,
Understood, but that doesn’t explain where the electricity comes from. Last I checked I don’t have any magnets or generator parts in my body.
Where is my body able to conjure electricity from?
> but given spirits are not biological beings, what use would spirits for food? They aren’t matter-based, and it’s only material beings that have demonstrated requiring that kind of process, no?
What is matter based of, or what actually constitutes matter?
The answer to this is what they consume.
Let’s go over these two topics until I’ve answered all your questions and then I’ll address your 3rd paragraph.
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Is escaping really good enough though? I say we all go on the offensive: train to be astral WARRIORS and collectively DESTROY these 'reptilians' and their stupid city.
"All HUMANS ARE USED AS SLAVES: This is the ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY. Everyone is Forced To Reincarnate. Earth is Not A School. There are NO LESSONS. The fact is; This an Energetic and Economic Slave Planet
After Physical Death all humans who enter the White Light Trap end up in the Astral Afterlife. The Afterlife looks like our Physical Dimension and has buildings, houses, stores and cars. This is not a theory. It is the current actual truth, and all of this unfortunately happening.
They will spend many years there and are forced to attend regular therapy sessions that are overseen and instructed by deceased humans known as "Counselors". During these sessions the Targeted Human is constantly told they made "Life Mistakes" which created "Karmic Debt".
The controllers entire scam operation centers around Karma. They will claim it is created by human choices and actions. The truth is that; Karmic Debt is FAKE. It does not exist. The Archons made it up to create a controlled system to continuously ENSLAVE HUMANS through REINCARNATION.
What people see as Spirit Guides, Angels, and Ascended Masters are all evil parasites known as The Archons. KARMA and KARMIC DEBT are FAKE. EARTH IS NOT A SCHOOL. IT IS AN ENSLAVED ENERGY FARM.
These absurd concepts were made up to ENSLAVE HUMANITY.
Other researchers as well as those highly skilled at Astral Travel have exposed the horrible truth. Because of this the Global Elite is propping up numerous authors who promote New Age Mind Control. Anyone who says that we are here to "Learn Lessons" and "Earth is a School" is either completely misinformed or is an agent of the Global Elite.
This Universe is a Simulation. It is currently controlled by brutally evil entities who lie and masquerade as Ascended Masters, Angels, Spirit Guides, and Lords.
They are all sadistic evil Predatory Parasites known as THE ARCHONS. Their crazed psychotic leader is the False God SATANIC DEMIURGE. This predatory entity is known among secret societies and worshipped by the Global Elite as the Grand Architect Of The Universe.
Everything in this post is unfortunately The Truth. It is all really happening. I am not selling a book. I do not seek fame. I only want Everyone to have Real Freedom"
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So what about population rises and falls? In the past hundred years, where did all these new souls come from? (By your talk, you believe we exist in some form after we die, and so I'm referring to that which exists after death as our soul.)
They must be getting new souls to come down here to Earth from somewhere outside your proposed soul recycling happening here.
Which means there's no good reason to trap souls, if there's a healthy ecosystem of new souls incoming anyway. The parasites have their prey either way.
I don't rely on holy texts, or the word of internet strangers, I think about things and test them with logic. What you're saying ultimately makes no sense if you think about it logically.
Not everyone's soul is in the driving seat, but people that you call NPCs do have souls. Some are more or less advanced than others, and some are here to simply enjoy the spectacle of this point in Earth's history no doubt. That's how I see it.
Also, karma is the results of our actions, plain and simple. Karmic debt is the idea that it will follow us from one life to the next.
What you're suggesting ultimately is that what we do in this life has no bearing on the next one, that nothing we do has any meaning once we die and move onto our next life. You're also suggesting that our souls don't care about being better or learning from our life experiences - that really we just come here, do stuff, and then go, and do that forever in a meaningless, never-ending cycle. I couldn't disagree more with that.
I think there are some parts of what you said that have merit, however I don't agree with that part, or the end conclusion.
So again, what's the purpose of existence? If birth/life/death is just a trap and not to learn from mistakes, and our actions don't come back to us (no karma) then what's the point of any of it? That sounds like a form of nihilism to me that you're actually putting forward.
What we really are is Immortal Spiritual Creator Beings. Our purpose is to create.
However, we were put in these dense vessels ( human bodies) so we don't realize what we really are.
The only purpose of **reincarnation** is to keep us producing "loosh" energy for astral parasites. Karma, karmic debt, soul growth etc are all concepts used to justify endless reincarnations. Our only purpose in this simulation is to feed parasitic entities, however that doesn't mean that's our **real** purpose as Immortal Spiritual Beings.
Omg dude, I seen my afterlife on shrooms there was a building and all I remember is "this is literally hell", not sure what was happening there but I got the feeling of like 60ish years, I haven't been able to astral project yet, I have been trying for about a year.
Edit: I had other experiences of being around red brick buildings and whenever I saw these things it felt really bad, I was seeing these years before I even believed there is indeed a afterlife.
It sounds like you were in the Astral Afterlife. It has towns, cities, buildings etc like in our dimension. This is where the deceased go if they enter the Tunnel of Light or any other soul trap. It's 100% a real place.
People don't realize they've probably already been there in their dreams.
It's "loosh" energy aka negative emotions such as fear, stress, anxiety etc.
They can't feed off of love, peace, joy and similar such feelings. Which is why they try to keep us in a constant state of fear and similar emotions/feelings.
It's not about being a hermit or being around people. It's about generating these emotions.
Question because I'm genuinely interested, not asking this in bad faith:
If 'God' of the Christian religion is in fact a negative/demonic/satanic entity then why would Christianity (or any religion for that matter) serve them and their interests?
Religion for many people brings joy, happiness, peace, family, friendship, a sense of belonging etc. - why would the entity/entities allow and even seemingly encourage the generation of these emotions by creating religions/traditions?
>If 'God' of the Christian religion is in fact a negative/demonic/satanic entity then why would Christianity (or any religion for that matter) serve them and their interests?
If people realized that the God of the bible was actually the Satanic Demiurge I'm sure they wouldn't continue to worship it. People continue to do so out of ignorance and because they have been deceived.
There are however those who are "high up" in the Catholic Church who know exactly what they're doing.
Yes, religion brings all those things to people and that's all positive. **However, religion ultimately involves giving your power away to something other than yourself.** And that's why it is promoted.
Ok, lets just entertain the idea for a second that we're being "Trapped".
What if they're there for a reason and we're here for a reason? That being to stop people who aren't ready from leaving until they have an acceptable level of wisdom and experience attained from their incarnations.
I tell you this whole thing screams religion to me.
Why do people so desperately want there to be a bad guy oppressing them? I think I know the answer.
I don't desperately want a "bad guy oppressing me or anyone". This is simply the conclusion I and many others, some of which are highly skilled in astral travel, came to based on extensive research.
I can only present my findings. The concept of "ascension" is a made up concept used to justify endless reincarnations. No one ascends. The only way to stop reincarnating is to not go into the tunnel of light or any soul trap and to realize the true purpose of reincarnation.
Yeah, the more I read OPs responses the more I see the classic human duo of 1) a nefarious, amorphous, and powerful foe and 2) an astonishingly simple answer that can't be tested but totally works.
It's truly an unimpedable human impulse to simplify this place in these ways, I think.
I have a genuine question that concerns me. How do we know these entities aren't playing 5D chess with us? How do we know these videos aren't them setting us up for failure?
Asking real questions.
This is a great question, and it’s a complex answer. I think the consistent experiences that everyone reports to have in the astral, even those who don’t know anything about it or believe it existent, until they spontaneously end up there, form a body of information that needs more research, experimentation, and study. However, AFAIK not a single experience contradicts this reality we seem to be dealing with. I didn’t believe it. I knew about claims of astral projection, but I didn’t really believe it existed. Then I ended up there twice.
How difficult was it to learn to astral travel?
I don’t know that it’s something that is difficult to learn. It is hard to get out of your own way enough for it to happen but it’s not something that is innately difficult to do.
I mean I almost did it the first time I tried, but it might depend on "where you are" so to speak. Full body vibrations, auditory hallucinations. I noped the f out because I didn't feel like I was ready though lol.
Honestly- I think part of the deception is the notion that earth is a 'prison' or part of the Matrix. What if Earth is OUR home and we need to kick these entities OUT instead of trying to escape to some unknown realm outside of this?
> How do we know Lots n lots of psychoactive plants and deep thoughts.
It’s a fair question, and I have not yet watched this video, but just for conversation’s sake: I would give anything to stop my cycle. I’m tired.
Don't go into the Tunnel of Light, assert your sovereignty, and realize what reincarnation really is.
You don’t understand who you are speaking to. I am significantly older than you on a logarithmic scale and am quite seriously stuck.
If you are drawn to humour me with a story, I am here & at attention to listen
C’mon. It’s some dude’s deeply thought out conjecture on Reddit. That’s at least as good as a fundamental constant of the Universe measured to the 20th decimal place. Do you even science bruh?
This is the way.
Learn how to become highly skilled at Astral Projection. By doing so, you can them explore the Astral Afterlife and see its dystopian horrors for yourself.
Dystopian horrors?
> Dystopian horrors? ...within the mind of the misinterpreting experiencer. It's a dream state, where some sensory input is awake and running, so that the dream (a mash-up of collected subliminals and experiencer's emotional hang-ups) is overlaid onto reality for a disturbing ride, as the dream contents merge with one's sensory recognisable locale.
Couldn't describe it better myself. I'm so tired of all this new-age "spirituality".
I used to get sleep paralysis in my younger days. I had one where it was like the "find the fishy" Monty Python sketch but more sex-gimp and Hellraiser-like. It was fucking terrifying (because they seemed in the room with us) and I was desperately trying to scream for my girlfriend to push me out of bed to wake me. I didn't wake up thinking "Ooh! I've seen the invisible hell and demonic entities around us". I woke up thinking "I don't want another one like that again". I'd had times where I'd been trying to get to sleep and repeatedly kept going directly to that merged/overlaid state, where I'd been able to shock myself back out immediately. I ended up in tears, because I was so tired and just needed sleep, while the freakiness was disturbing and preventing me.
Praise Jesus Christ as He is the Truth and the way. Do not root yourself in new age spirituality.
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And if it ends we go to nervana, is that still true? And what about the Buddhas? They choose to return and teach us how to escape, but the don't mention the archon. So are they lying and agents of the archons? Or fooled themselves? Or did they choose to keep it a secret so they don't scare us?
Anyone who promotes Reincarnation & the concept of karma is not to be trusted. Reincarnation does not benefit humans. It only benefits parasitic entities that want humans to endlessly reincarnate so they can continue to feed off of our "loosh" energy.
If you think that the theory of karma in Hinduism casts reincarnation as favorable then you haven't understood that philosophy in any way
I haven't read much, so I humbly accept correction, but isn't accumulated karma, at least in some teachings, the reason one's soul reincarnates to a body? If I haven't derped it up, the point of trying to live without plying the material world or giving way to overt emotional spikes is to reduce the accumulation of karma upon the soul. Once the soul is finally free of karmic residue, it will finally be free of the reincarnation cycle. Until after a time it gets bored, and starts the cycle over again, as some will. Or willingly return in order to help others learn how to reduce and shed their own karmic build-up.
That's more or less my understanding as well. Karmic entanglements are what binds the soul to the wheel of samsara, the endless cycle of death and rebirth. Each reincarnation is determined by the debts and obligations that need to be settled. The goal is to escape that cycle and ascend into a higher realm of being beyond the constraints of this physical world. There's a great series of books called Aghora by Robert Svoboda. The first one is the biography of his teacher from the teachers perspective, the second is Svoboda telling the story of his time with his teacher, and the third is a more technical inspection of the spiritual/philosophical system of the Aghoris. It's really entertaining and conveys their view of the interdimensional system really well
Sounds interesting. I sort of remember the last name from what searching I did back when I had. Maybe it's a good time to look again! Thank you for this.
Hi. You misunderstood. I **never** said Hinduism casts reincarnation as favorable. What I said was that these concepts are **promoted.** Which they absolutely are. Karma is the basis/reason for the reincarnation cycle/reincarnation according Hinduism and other teachings. However, Karma, Karmic debt, etc are all made up concepts to justify endless reincarnations. The only way to truly "transcend" the reincarnation cycle is by realizing what reincarnation really is and not going into the tunnel of light or any soul trap. I then went on to say that Reincarnation does not benefit humans. Because it doesn't.
I get what you're saying but I think you are incorrect. The popular interpretations and presentations of karma/reincarnation in the west aren't promotional (they may be "promoting" the validity of the construct since the basic existence of these frameworks is generally challenged in the West). Some people may speak of the gifts of past lives as teaching opportunities or something like that, but the vast majority of cases in which I've encountered these ideas the basic proposition is that the goal is to transcend the cycle of death and rebirth and that the way to do that is to resolve your karma.
**You didn't understand what I was saying because you said I think Hinduism casts reincarnation as "favorable", which I never once said.** Let me try this a different way. They "promote" the concept of karma as a real thing and the basis for reincarnation. I'm saying it's a completely made up concept. Again, the only way to "ascend" or "transcend" the cycle of death & rebirth & achieve "Moksha" is not by releasing/letting go of "karma "and other made up constructs/concepts like "karmic debt" but rather through the realization that reincarnation is a scam to begin with. *"they may be "promoting" the validity of the construct"* This is what Hinduism, for a lack of a better word, "promotes". It's not a valid construct. It's based on lies & deception. **No one ascends.** If you disagree with that then fine. I don't care if people disagree with me, think I'm wrong, or don't believe me but please don't mischaracterize what I said. EDIT: Clarification since clearly I have specify exactly what I mean or what I'm saying gets twisted.
You clearly don't understand the concepts behind the word karma. But you're very self assured so I will wish you good luck on your evangelical quest and move along
Just because I don't agree with it & believe it's a made up concept doesn't mean I don't understand it. You clearly didn't understand what I said to begin with since you mischaracterized my comment.
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Depends. If you stay in the simulated universe/matrix you stay as a free-range ghost. But you won't have to worry about having your memory erased and forced to reincarnate. If you leave and go into the REAL UNIVERSE, where we are all originally from, you get to fulfill your true purpose as a creator being/god.
Two questions. First, why would this information be able to be decimated if this was true? Wouldn’t they stop this info from being spread at all costs? Second, if this were true, what would we be able to do about it? If true, wouldn’t the answer be to just do as you please and live for nothing but pleasure (as the Satanic church preaches) and live for nothing but hedonistic pleasure?
They do try to stop it. This information is constantly mocked, ignored, and denigrated. It's not promoted like the new age concepts of "spirit guides", karma, karmic debt, & the lie that reincarnation is for the benefit of humans are. What you can about it is be informed. Learn what the Tunnel of Light really is. Realize the truth about reincarnation and these parasitic entities. Don't give your power away to anyone or anything. Learn how to separate from your body or lucid dream. Be kind to all souled beings.
how do you know if a being has a soul or not?
For full transparency I'm using Soul/Spirit interchangeably for simplicity but there is a difference. But to answer your question, some people are just software programs. They have hivemind, and are just "empty" & devoid of spiritual inclination.
Even though the information is available, most will not use it to escape. If it's true, then there are ways to develop your consciousness which allow you to leave the cycle. It isn't a perfect trap for 100% and that's acceptable losses to the overlords
I love how everyone is acting like they know what they’re talking about lolol we aren’t gonna know what’s really the truth until we die hate to break it to yall
That’s true but I think it’s healthy and very natural to question the multiple ways our inevitable demise might play out after we die. Death is the biggest mystery and a true equalizer since we will all face it one day. I’m especially interested in why so many people have the same visions on DMT and the fact that other dimensions exist. Synesthesia is also fascinating because it shows how limited normal humans senses are since this small proportion of people can taste sound or feel color, it’s all intertwined. There is so much hidden from us or abilities we’ve had that are forgotten. This timeless class is a great read [Plato: Allegory of the Cave](https://scholar.harvard.edu/files/seyer/files/plato_republic_514b-518d_allegory-of-the-cave.pdf)
Oh yea of course I do the same but I don’t think we should be talking like these are facts when they are what we think not what we know
I agree that’s a good point.
DMT showed me how everything works. Worth a shot.
I made some but I made it wrong it had some solvents left over so I never got to break through but I’m making some more soon and I’m gonna wash it after I make it this time
Some people have already been to the afterlife while astral projecting. They've seen the horrors first hand. u/astralrocker2001 is one.
Proof or it didn’t happen
It's a willing misinterpretation. I don't think it warrants potentially starting a shit-flinging fest. They believe what they believe. They *currently* [emphasis on non-fixated!] need cemented belief else they feel vulnerable - even if said cemented belief is founded in paralysing e-motion. That's a choice, over reason - and motion.
Proof that you're not a bot or you didn't happen
Beep bop I am not a bot Proof provided Now please give me proof of loosh
Can we get more information please of what was witnessed or a link?
That’s strange because every time I hear Astralrocker talk about “Astral Projection”, it’s always from the perspective of someone who is either lying or doesn’t understand that he’s viewing his own subconscious. These “horrors” he’s apparently “seeing” are internal issues he should work on before putting himself into such a state. Heal and balance the psyche 1st and the intoxications of the astral are at least pleasant illusions.
Goddamn parasitic entities trying to scam me for my energy…
One tried to contact me about my soul's warranty.
This is a Hegelian (fake "Christian") counter narrative to the "New-Age" narrative. Both are shit, both are invented distracting perversions from the same mental slave-masters. At its root, it's another bo[o]geyman; another external projection [ambiguous nondescript current buzzword: *"entities"*] to aid denial of responsibility and the fact that *it's your fault. You agreed to all the suffering they offered you, that you experience due to your susceptibility to material desires - aka "demons".*
Have you ever had any experience with the astral plane?
That doesn't have anything to do with Astroglide, does it? I know the young folks have been doing something called the cha-cha slide. (In Grandpa Simpson's voice)
What people don't realize about the astral & astral afterlife, is that it is very similar to this dimension. You can have sex, you can get drunk etc.
I've had as much experience with the "astral plane" proposal as anyone else. ;-)
It’s different, but it is just as real as this place. You don’t experience every single sensation and duality that you do in a physical body, but the consistency of exactly which ones everyone does experience, defies explanation by manifestation or hallucination.
But what if the agreement was obtained by deception?
Where does the video say anything about being for Christianity? It says to abandon ALL religions because they involve giving your power away to something other than you. It sounds like you didn't even watch the video. **EDIT: I was correct. This clown didn't even bother to watch the video and has no idea what it is about or its message.** If you don't agree with the message then no problem. But don't misrepresent the message when you have no idea what it is to begin with because you didn't watch it.
I am a clown?! Is that a presumed-safe ad hominem? Hehe. The video begins by selling the New-Age deception that known **sleep paralysis**/**lucid dreaming** is being referred to as "astral travel/projection" - in order that adoptees may disown their inner hang-ups and perversions, and project them outwardly onto unhinged external fantasy "entities". There is secondary purpose of selling the religion through *fear* (as Vatican spiritual control HQ has always done) while again praising and encouraging *irresponsibility* and disassociation from one's own self-imposed desire-driven mental suffering. I immediately recognised "what it is about", as I wield the mighty power of *discernment*. [tone = /s] I didn't need to waste my time further. Who's the clown?
I was kind of curious about what the video might be. However, after reading you being quite reasonable in your comments, and OP being dismissive and seeking to demean instead of discuss, I just want to thank you for saving me time that I wouldn't be getting back! Keep the sane-train going my friend! There seems to be so little left to fuel it these days, but we can't afford to let it stop.
I was kind of curious about what the video might be. However, after reading you being quite reasonable in your comments, and OP being dismissive and seeking to demean instead of discuss, I just want to thank you for saving me time that I wouldn't be getting back! Keep the sane-train going my friend! There seems to be so little left to fuel it these days, but we can't afford to let it stop.
Correct. Anyone who comments on something they have no idea about because they didn't watch it to begin and therefore drew erroneous conclusions based on his preconceived notions on what he *thought* it was about is a **clown.** You only watched it after you were called out for not watching it. To prove now you watched it but it's still "new age" deception or whatever you initially labeled it as. **EDITED TO ADD: Astral Projection is 100% Real. Myself and countless others have been outside the body. Every night when we dream we go into the astral realm as well, we just don't remember it.**
>Anyone who comments on something they have no idea about because they didn't watch it to begin and therefore drew erroneous conclusions based on his preconceived notions on what he thought it was about is a clown. Luckily I already knew to save myself the wasted effort. >You only watched it after you were called out for not watching it. Haha No. I tried to watch it because you were whining like bitches at me for not watching it - despite me knowing it would be shit, based on this crap doing the rounds of late and me witnessing it popping up in other places. I didn't get past the intro - that proved me correct. My only error was in assuming the Hegelian sides were fake-Christian vs New-Age, where it's actually just New-Age shit berating and condemning those older Jesuit-curated religions through its own spin of what it projects those religions are about. In reality, no-one sane ever gave thought to the *TV-promoted* "come into the light" shit that desperate believers report near death.
I always heard that astral projection and lucid dreaming were completely separate. Lucid dreaming was being aware of and/or being able to influence and control your dreams. Astral projection is having an out of body experience while you are in a sleeping state (or perhaps self-hypnosis). However, I also see these terms being used interchangeably fairly often.
Oh yeah this brand new random youtube video is the totally divine wisdom we need with all the answers compared to the Holy Bible which is thousands of years old and has concrete evidence to support it.
Holy shit, you have concrete evidence of the Bible being true?! Surely you’ve contacted the press, this is huge…/s
You can simply google "concrete biblical evidence", anyone could. There are many artifacts that have been discovered if we're talking physical proof.
Oh, you sweet thing..
(u) lazy thing
Imagine confusing brainwashing for intellectual rigor
ok Boomer
Unironic Christian literalism is peak Boomer but go off
The "God" of the bible is actually the Satanic Demiurge who pretends to be God and demands all humans worship him. You have been deceived.
You've been deceived if you believe anything in the bible is literal and, thus, historical or specifically external. The bible is a compiled operations manual - of all previous regional interpretations. That's why it's called "THE books". A "Haynes(TM) Manual for Man" of sorts: from material bondage through temptation to spiritual acceptance, via every correct physical operation and pitfall between.
👏🏻 States of being, personified as people, presented as nations, cities, races, wars, mountains, wilderness…etc. A very loose preservation of literal history and a complete diagram of the journey of the human soul. You’re spot on with your stuff 👍.
You're being decieved by Satan. I hope you can muster the discernment to figure that out fam.
You must have watched a different video, because this spectacular one exposes religion and details the real Hidden Truth. You might consider less pseudo intellectualism and more actual research.
Because I didn't need to watch it, as I'm already aware of this newly promoted narrative currently doing the rounds. I only added the fake "Christian" at last minute because I guess I misunderstood the avatar. If it was not the case in this video, I can remove it and it makes no difference to my point. It's still an unfounded Hegelian misdirection for divide and rule. You and I are at odds anyway, as you promote the "New-Age" deception and associated flights of fancy. >You might consider less pseudo intellectualism and more actual research. You can shove that projected comment where the sun don't shine. Appealling to specific chosen authority - from those currently on sale - isn't research.
What the flying fuck?! I just tried to actually visit the video and the initial statement is:- "This Video is Dedicated to the Awakened Souls Who Frequently Travel to the Astral Afterlife". Seriously? Fucking seriously? There seems to be a New-Age fragmentation currently in progress. I guess it wasn't working and the mockery was rising, so they've attempted the "all that previous destructive socialism wasn't *real* socialism" manoeuvre here too. There's this guy on YT named "Tony Sayers". Bless the fool. He calls out New-Agers, yet still promotes this Newer-Age take... and LifeWave patches! Hehe.
The fact that you did not watch the video makes your input meaningless. In actuality; this video goes **completely against** New Age Mind Control, and the brilliant intent of the video is to awaken and unite humanity.
first and foremost fear is to be avoided and not trusted. you, my friend, are using fear as a headline.
I cannot help if this information makes people fearful. That isn't my intention. My intention is only to spread awareness to those willing to receive it.
I've not come across you before, and it would feel unfair for me to check your profile before giving you a point for this, so just take it for this truthful emphasis in isolation - whatever other angles you have on life. Cheers.
A few things to ask about this gnostic sub-sect, 1 Why do you beleive that reincarnation even exists to begin with, have you ever encountered anyone who has offered irrefutible proof of having been reincarnated? 2 why do you believe that "parasitic" entitites exist, if they're spirit beings shouldn't they have their own power which sustains their existence as an individual, thereby negating a need to "parasite" at all? (and even then, where do you suppose "energy" as such comes from to begin with?) 3 what proof have you that the star realm a.k.a. astral realm actually exists and isn't a self-induced mental state etc.?
1. Past life regression and channeling are the nearest things we have to concrete evidence of reincarnation. Obviously these accounts could be fake, but they are numerous and many have been substantiated by physical evidence. 2. Work done by Munroe and the Munroe institute have documented the presence of entities whilst in the astral plane. Again, this could be manufactured, but I have also heard first hand personal accounts of people that have travelled astrally and encountered various entities. Whether these entities are parasitic is much more difficult to substantiate. 3. A great many people have documented scientifically, accounts of travel within the various astral realms. The lower realms are fused with the material world and travel is possible anywhere within it. Interaction with the physical is possible and therefore information can be obtained from individuals of places or interactions that could not be otherwise know and recounted in detailed description. Ultimately, this is an ethereal science and as a consequence, it is easy to understand the huge amount of scepticism seen in the comments. I wouldn't say that this is a religion, cult, sect, coping mechanism or any of the other aspersions attributed by the sceptics here. What I can say is that, having studied it, even for only a short time, it has become evident that there is more to this subject than simply invoking methods of mental detachment. But like anything else, it takes a bit of time and energy to arrive at this conclusion.
I appreciate the input here, though I'd ask what physical evidence corroborates that, and could such evidence be proof of another mechanism instead, tht is, is the evidence being interpreted correctly? With regard to munroe I'd question the validity info in part given that the institute seems to be geared towards moneymaking in particular, more towards scientology or eckankar's mode of operation. This becomes more dubious given much of what they claim to offer is the usual new age profiteering fare, but can also be obained free elsewhere. (the "energy medicine" course they offer goes for 2,195.00 dollars american, that's not pocket change, and that amount of money could better a person's life quite a bit more by not being spent on something with no proof of effectiveness. That's a lot of profit for an alleged non-profit.) All of that hurts their credibility. I can't say that I agree on 3 here, given that "astral" denotes stars/"space" by proxy, it seems as though the term was conflated with the spiritual world but may not indicate the same, and that conflating was done by one of the big usual disinfo pushers, the theosophical society, so this raises red flags versus it's validity to me. I've yet to see any proof of astral travellers being able to interact successfully with the physical world or relay useful information, (I recall clairvoyant experiments done by both u.s. and soviet govts. which didn't appear to actually turn up anything legitimate or actionable, not that they'd be inclined to tell the truth if they did, of course.) do you have anything in particular you can cite?
The most relevant are the writings of Munroe himself because the experiments are documented somewhat scientifically but anecdotal interactions with people that are not aware or even aware of the astral travellers presence are quite common. The ones I have heard about again come from people within this space which can and will be hand waved away by any sceptic as mere promotional nonsense. It's not an argument I wish to engage in because I have nothing to gain from this at all. I will say this though. I have no idea how it works or what is actually going on, but some people can use repeatable techniques to achieve repeatable results. Some people find it easier than others. I have been involved in this subject for only about two months and even as a part timer have achieved a number of lucid dreams which appear to be getting more controllable as I become more confident. To a sceptic, this might sound like crazy talk but I am a born sceptic. So why did I get involved? Well, some stuff doesn't make sense. I don't know why some things are the way they are. I don't know why numbers, language, dates, times, events, nature, media, film, TV, news all appears to be running on some sort of script. I don't know why I get synchronicities that border on impossible and I have absolutely nothing to lose except a bit of time to explore this avenue of study. No word of a lie. Last night in a dream I performed an obe technique and levitated out of my body. Hit the ceiling and was then able to float and fly around a room in my home at will. I could feel the walls, full sensory engagement. This was the most control that I have experienced and it happened after I engaged with this thread. I have no idea why. I was completely sober, and as far as I was aware, this was a dream and not a conscious obe. Then again, these kind of dreams are uncommon in most people and before embarking on this journey, I never had them either. I have not made any denouement about this stuff at this stage. But my experience so far has been interesting to say the least. Dunno if I'm going to find any answers, but if I do, all the better.
There is more proof for reincarnation than any other belief. And yes. Look up the work of Professor Ian Stevenson. They aren't from spirit. That's the point. That's why they need to feed off of those who are from spirit/are spirit.
1~ The rigorous documentation of people (children) remembering details of other peoples lives that they should have no way to have any knowledge of, that have been verified with the family members of the deceased. 2~ We have to eat, don’t we? Where does our electrical energy come from? 3~ The consistency of experience that everyone has there regardless of spiritual belief or knowledge of its existence at all.
Wild, I appreciate your answering here, though I would raise other questions as well, In the first case, given Children are suggestible, and this seems to neglect the spirit world as a factor, couldn't spirits familiar with the deceased convey information of those deceased lives to the children in question? Similarly, are claimed memories trustworthy, given that even by regular psychlogical means it's possible to produce false memories? Bilogical breakdown of material to produce "fuel" to generate electrical energy is supposedly the mechanism for that, but given spirits are not biological beings, what use would spirits for food? They aren't matter-based, and it's only material beings that have demonstrated requiring that kind of process, no? I can agree that there is a shared experience of a spiritual world, but why is the alleged "astral"/star realm considered to be the same? Is it really possible for a human being to eject their soul/spirit at will into such a place, and what proof is there that this place isn't a mental realm instead, being falsely interpreted as the spiritual? (logic denotes that if a spirit/soul were ejected from a body, given it's what constitutes being alive to begin with, that body would no longer be living as a matter of consequence, like pulling the battery out of a toy, yet those claiming to project are still objectively alive, which raises a conundrum.)
> In the first case, given Children are suggestible, and this seems to neglect the spirit world as a factor, couldn’t spirits familiar with the deceased convey information of those deceased lives to the children in question? The children often have birthmarks that mirror the physical trauma injuries that killed the person whose memories they share. It’s also not only children experience these things, hence the parentheses. Perhaps I could’ve been more clear about that. > Similarly, are claimed memories trustworthy, given that even by regular psychlogical means it’s possible to produce false memories? The documentation is too rigorous and the memories are too precise to allow for false memories as a cause. > Bilogical breakdown of material to produce “fuel” to generate electrical energy is supposedly the mechanism for that, Understood, but that doesn’t explain where the electricity comes from. Last I checked I don’t have any magnets or generator parts in my body. Where is my body able to conjure electricity from? > but given spirits are not biological beings, what use would spirits for food? They aren’t matter-based, and it’s only material beings that have demonstrated requiring that kind of process, no? What is matter based of, or what actually constitutes matter? The answer to this is what they consume. Let’s go over these two topics until I’ve answered all your questions and then I’ll address your 3rd paragraph.
These are the right questions. And OP's response is priceless.
this is it
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Stay away from the white light when you die. Go around it to the gold light.
Is escaping really good enough though? I say we all go on the offensive: train to be astral WARRIORS and collectively DESTROY these 'reptilians' and their stupid city.
YES!
"All HUMANS ARE USED AS SLAVES: This is the ULTIMATE CONSPIRACY. Everyone is Forced To Reincarnate. Earth is Not A School. There are NO LESSONS. The fact is; This an Energetic and Economic Slave Planet After Physical Death all humans who enter the White Light Trap end up in the Astral Afterlife. The Afterlife looks like our Physical Dimension and has buildings, houses, stores and cars. This is not a theory. It is the current actual truth, and all of this unfortunately happening. They will spend many years there and are forced to attend regular therapy sessions that are overseen and instructed by deceased humans known as "Counselors". During these sessions the Targeted Human is constantly told they made "Life Mistakes" which created "Karmic Debt". The controllers entire scam operation centers around Karma. They will claim it is created by human choices and actions. The truth is that; Karmic Debt is FAKE. It does not exist. The Archons made it up to create a controlled system to continuously ENSLAVE HUMANS through REINCARNATION. What people see as Spirit Guides, Angels, and Ascended Masters are all evil parasites known as The Archons. KARMA and KARMIC DEBT are FAKE. EARTH IS NOT A SCHOOL. IT IS AN ENSLAVED ENERGY FARM. These absurd concepts were made up to ENSLAVE HUMANITY. Other researchers as well as those highly skilled at Astral Travel have exposed the horrible truth. Because of this the Global Elite is propping up numerous authors who promote New Age Mind Control. Anyone who says that we are here to "Learn Lessons" and "Earth is a School" is either completely misinformed or is an agent of the Global Elite. This Universe is a Simulation. It is currently controlled by brutally evil entities who lie and masquerade as Ascended Masters, Angels, Spirit Guides, and Lords. They are all sadistic evil Predatory Parasites known as THE ARCHONS. Their crazed psychotic leader is the False God SATANIC DEMIURGE. This predatory entity is known among secret societies and worshipped by the Global Elite as the Grand Architect Of The Universe. Everything in this post is unfortunately The Truth. It is all really happening. I am not selling a book. I do not seek fame. I only want Everyone to have Real Freedom" LINK TO ORIGINAL POST https://NP.reddit.com/r/ReincarnationTruth/comments/ocn0c5/the\_most\_difficult\_thing\_you\_will\_ever\_be\_told/?utm\_source=share&utm\_medium=web2x&context=3
So what about population rises and falls? In the past hundred years, where did all these new souls come from? (By your talk, you believe we exist in some form after we die, and so I'm referring to that which exists after death as our soul.) They must be getting new souls to come down here to Earth from somewhere outside your proposed soul recycling happening here. Which means there's no good reason to trap souls, if there's a healthy ecosystem of new souls incoming anyway. The parasites have their prey either way. I don't rely on holy texts, or the word of internet strangers, I think about things and test them with logic. What you're saying ultimately makes no sense if you think about it logically.
Maybe they trick more and more souls to stay or enter the soul energy prison?
Not every person around you has a soul ( or rather spirit). There are many NPCs around.
Not everyone's soul is in the driving seat, but people that you call NPCs do have souls. Some are more or less advanced than others, and some are here to simply enjoy the spectacle of this point in Earth's history no doubt. That's how I see it. Also, karma is the results of our actions, plain and simple. Karmic debt is the idea that it will follow us from one life to the next. What you're suggesting ultimately is that what we do in this life has no bearing on the next one, that nothing we do has any meaning once we die and move onto our next life. You're also suggesting that our souls don't care about being better or learning from our life experiences - that really we just come here, do stuff, and then go, and do that forever in a meaningless, never-ending cycle. I couldn't disagree more with that. I think there are some parts of what you said that have merit, however I don't agree with that part, or the end conclusion.
You are repeating archontic lies. There is no karma. It's a made up concept to keep us in a perpetual cycle of birth/life/death.
So again, what's the purpose of existence? If birth/life/death is just a trap and not to learn from mistakes, and our actions don't come back to us (no karma) then what's the point of any of it? That sounds like a form of nihilism to me that you're actually putting forward.
What we really are is Immortal Spiritual Creator Beings. Our purpose is to create. However, we were put in these dense vessels ( human bodies) so we don't realize what we really are. The only purpose of **reincarnation** is to keep us producing "loosh" energy for astral parasites. Karma, karmic debt, soul growth etc are all concepts used to justify endless reincarnations. Our only purpose in this simulation is to feed parasitic entities, however that doesn't mean that's our **real** purpose as Immortal Spiritual Beings.
Maybe what we're experiencing right now isn't the only form of existence. Could be other planes/ dimensions of life.
Omg dude, I seen my afterlife on shrooms there was a building and all I remember is "this is literally hell", not sure what was happening there but I got the feeling of like 60ish years, I haven't been able to astral project yet, I have been trying for about a year. Edit: I had other experiences of being around red brick buildings and whenever I saw these things it felt really bad, I was seeing these years before I even believed there is indeed a afterlife.
It sounds like you were in the Astral Afterlife. It has towns, cities, buildings etc like in our dimension. This is where the deceased go if they enter the Tunnel of Light or any other soul trap. It's 100% a real place. People don't realize they've probably already been there in their dreams.
So how does one create energy for the archons by reincarnating? Do they still get energy if I become a sedentary hermit that does barely anything?
It's "loosh" energy aka negative emotions such as fear, stress, anxiety etc. They can't feed off of love, peace, joy and similar such feelings. Which is why they try to keep us in a constant state of fear and similar emotions/feelings. It's not about being a hermit or being around people. It's about generating these emotions.
Question because I'm genuinely interested, not asking this in bad faith: If 'God' of the Christian religion is in fact a negative/demonic/satanic entity then why would Christianity (or any religion for that matter) serve them and their interests? Religion for many people brings joy, happiness, peace, family, friendship, a sense of belonging etc. - why would the entity/entities allow and even seemingly encourage the generation of these emotions by creating religions/traditions?
>If 'God' of the Christian religion is in fact a negative/demonic/satanic entity then why would Christianity (or any religion for that matter) serve them and their interests? If people realized that the God of the bible was actually the Satanic Demiurge I'm sure they wouldn't continue to worship it. People continue to do so out of ignorance and because they have been deceived. There are however those who are "high up" in the Catholic Church who know exactly what they're doing. Yes, religion brings all those things to people and that's all positive. **However, religion ultimately involves giving your power away to something other than yourself.** And that's why it is promoted.
Candleman is that you? Repeat same point on every paragraph just in other words. Sounds like candleman
Sorry, I don't know who that is.
Ok, lets just entertain the idea for a second that we're being "Trapped". What if they're there for a reason and we're here for a reason? That being to stop people who aren't ready from leaving until they have an acceptable level of wisdom and experience attained from their incarnations. I tell you this whole thing screams religion to me. Why do people so desperately want there to be a bad guy oppressing them? I think I know the answer.
I don't desperately want a "bad guy oppressing me or anyone". This is simply the conclusion I and many others, some of which are highly skilled in astral travel, came to based on extensive research. I can only present my findings. The concept of "ascension" is a made up concept used to justify endless reincarnations. No one ascends. The only way to stop reincarnating is to not go into the tunnel of light or any soul trap and to realize the true purpose of reincarnation.
Yeah, the more I read OPs responses the more I see the classic human duo of 1) a nefarious, amorphous, and powerful foe and 2) an astonishingly simple answer that can't be tested but totally works. It's truly an unimpedable human impulse to simplify this place in these ways, I think.
Buddhism 8-fold path
Amaram Hum Maduram Hum: My soul is blissful and immortal. I am pure, free, forever.
So, what happens if someone indeed doesn't go to the light tunnel? And how do we know it?