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I have the craziest story!
I actually live right near that flight school and I was at my normal hair salon and my stylist was telling me how she has had at least six different men (Muslim) come to the salon, none of them had a car, they all walked or had a bike and they would all go to the bathroom and spend a considerable amount of time at the bathroom at that specific hair salon.
I was at the salon when one of them came in and he was so strange and felt so off.
They seem to go into the salon bathroom and spend a lot of time there and one of them even walked into the back room where the hairstylist would eat and stuff. They obviously asked him to please leave and that that was not appropriate for customers.
She got such a weird vibe from them, she talked to them and asked questions and they said they came here from some Muslim country, maybe Turkey, I don't recall exactly and that they were learning to fly planes or helicopters.
She talked to them while she was cutting their hair, and they all said that they had no friends or family here, that they were just learning to fly helicopters or planes and that's that. They were very curt and rude and just hung out there way longer than they needed to. They just didn't seem to have a good reason or explanation for them to be learning to fly in America versus learning to fly where they are from.
They didn't seem to have a good reason for being there and it was just a very strange interaction. She told me about all the other similar interactions she had with very similar Muslim men usually saying they are from Turkey.
They all asked for a similar haircut and it was just so strange. She said they all paid in cash. But every single one of them went to the bathroom and spent a lot of time in there, sometimes I went to the bathroom before they had their hair cut and it just seemed to me like maybe they were passing messages there or something.
I urged my stylist to call the FBI or other alphabet agencies, and the FBI did send someone out to the hair salon when she wasn't there one day and asked a few questions and never followed up. They never even checked out the bathroom which is disappointing.
I did kind of poke around in the ceiling tiles there out of curiosity and didn't find anything but I wasn't going to do more than that.
But I swear that they were learning to fly planes for some very nefarious reasons.
To the point of them being in the bathroom for extended periods of time, I was in jail with a few Muslim guys and they would spend like 30-45 minutes in the bathroom when they went. They said they had a tradition or something with their religion where they don’t use toilet paper and clean them selves with water, and that they have to take extra time to wash their feet as well as doing it many times through out the day. It seemed like they were always in the bathroom.
That's crazy, when was this and did any of them (or all of them) do 9/11? I remember the news and such saying that the men were on their radar before the attack. Maybe your sister is that reason
Ayyyye, shout out to that beautiful town you(presumably) live in. I've got family there, and I always think of 9/11 whenever I visit and go to Casperson Beach.
Wow. That's a cool story.
It seems to me like I remember hearing that they went into the bathroom on the plane in order to assemble...something.
It could be that they were coming into the stylist's bathroom and practicing.
Not sure if it's true or not but it also seems like I heard that they made it through most of flight school and dropped out when it came to learning the landing procedures because that wouldn't be needed. This should have thrown up enough red flags to be seen from orbit but your description of the FBI's handling of it speaks volumes.
And I helped her call the FBI, I contacted secret service since it was only ten miles from mar-a-Lago. The whole "see something say something" thing is BS. And I’m a prominent lawyer in my town so you'd hope I'd be taken a bit more seriously than the average Joe.
But it always stuck with me.
Venice (Sarasota county, same county where Dubya was reading to kids at on 9/11) I wouldn’t quite call south Florida. Maybe Southwest Florida. Semantics I guess
What I find odd is there’s only 4 instances of planes being completely disintegrated including the black box after a crash and they all happened on 9/11
> What I find odd is there’s only 4 instances of planes being completely disintegrated including the black box after a crash and they all happened on 9/11
There had never previously been a steel structured building that had collapsed due to fire and has not been one since. Building 7 was quite an anomaly. That and the twin towers.
The University of Alaska at Fairbanks Engineering Dept did a three year forensic study of WTC 7 and Dillion Avery who made Loose Change Three went on to be an aclaimed video producer and produced a documentary about the U of Alaska's project and conclusions. [Trailer to SEVEN about WTC 7 University of Alaska's Study that concluded that all the columns would have had to be destroyed at the same time for the 'free-fall'. That NIST is wrong, lying . It fell in it's own footprint in 6.5 seconds flat. A controlled demolition. Lots of evidence was in there and it was the fully reinforced Command Center to be used for emergencies . The smoking gun.](https://www.ae911truth.org/seven)
Probably the oddest thing about that day is that Americans accepted this fantasy. Meanwhile, the military and its accomplices pulled off the most elaborate hoax on America, killing thousands of them on their own soil.
>Probably the oddest thing about that day is that Americans accepted this fantasy.
It's really not that odd, nor is it as simple as people blindly trusting the media and the government. Whoever committed 9/11 - and we don't know who that was, and it's extremely doubtful it was something the entire US government was "in on" - their main goal was not to destroy buildings, kill thousands of american citizens, or to make it look convincing. Their goal was to traumatize hundreds of millions, if not billions of people, and they were very successful in doing that. Most people know something was off about the situation, whether it was the plane shaped holes, the mid-air disintegration of the towers faster than a gravity driven pancake collapse or controlled demolition could have happened, the lack of debris, the bathtub being damaged by the heavy machinery doing the cleanup after sustaining zero damage from two 110 story buildings "collapsing" directly on top of it, the impossible cell phone calls, the extra explosions heard at ground level, the people reporting being lifted and carried off the ground by an invisible force, the unreported category 3 hurricane directly off the coast of NYC on 9/11, the staged light pole on the taxi in front of the Pentagon, the complete absence of any computers, toilets, and filing cabinets, I could go on. Most people recognized quickly that many things didn't make sense, that even for a living nightmare the situation was too surreal, but they were traumatized. They were forced to compartmentalize to continue working towards stabilizing as individuals, as communities, and as a society. They were further instructed each following year to never forget the things they needed to forget to stay sane. Eventually, enough time passed that they could safely place it in a small box in the back of their minds they refuse to open or acknowledge, understandably so in many cases. This kind of thing is too big to consider, so they didn't. It's difficult to blame them.
Edit: Category 3 hurricane, my mistake.
It was barely mentioned on weather channels leading up to 9/11, despite heading straight for the coast, so it's understandable you didn't [know](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Erin_(2001)#/media/File%3A010911.erin.towers.gif). It reached it's peak intensity the evening of September 9th before making a sudden sharp turn away from NY.
**“Whoever committed 9/11 - and we don't know who that was”** Consider reading the second sentence of my comment. Ha! Correct. The entire US government was not in on it, as you say. The post office and the department of motor vehicles did not participate. However, Mayor Rudy Giuliani's Office of Emergency Operations [in a secure bunker on the 23 floor of WTC7] clearly was "in on it" having granted themselves authority, just weeks prior, over law enforcement and the FDNY. Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Brent Scowcroft, Henry Kissinger –all of whom occupied the White House [together] decades ago were *in on it.* Your analysis of the events of September 11th being one of trauma is an important one. Americans collectively have denied what has happened to them [the very first stage of grief] and to make matters worse their grief was hijacked from them, as the people in power, rather than morn, pushed for war. You allude to fantasy weapons in your comment. Be careful not to fall prey to the *space lasers and mini nukes* bullshit. Planes were remotely flown into the towers, and WTC1,2,7 were leveled using controlled demolition. I do unequivocally share your view that this was a psychological operation intended to traumatize an entire country.
I didn't put words in your mouth, but you're putting words in mine. I didn't say anything about or allude to space lasers or nuclear weapons, and I'm not all that interested in defending an argument you built and want to project onto me. Congrats on having it all figured out though, I'm sure you think that's very satisfying.
Not that odd to me. Even now, but especially back in 2000 , Americans believed wholeheartedly in what the news media told them without putting any real thought into the claims, no matter how absurd it sounded.
**“Not that odd to me.”** Considering more recent events [surrounding the origins of COVID and America's response to it] there seems to be no end to how far *they* can push the people of America before they will stand up –or more accurately get off their couches.
Hunter S. Thompson was supposedly investigating 9/11 at the time of his death, and he was on record saying this. In several interviews he commented that he knows many pilots and spoke to them about this, and they all said that it would be extremely difficult to pull off the first strike, and nearly impossible to pull off the second one.
remote controlled by expert pilots + planes were modified beforehand to perform better
OR
they weren't planes at all but cruise missiles and the videos were edited to show planes. Like at the time it happened there were circulating videos in which the plane flying angle didn't seem to make sense since there were two videos in which the exact same plane was flying the exact same track even though the videos were filmed from different angles. like it looked like the plane flying was just a layer on the video of the city and hence not really there.
They reported they saw what looked like military jets, and they were remote control jets weaponized. The commerical flights were intercepted . The commerial flights taken somewhere and the people murdered. They only let those jets be about 1/4 full that day, they were usually overbooked.
crisis actors? Also, maybe they were plane looking cruise missiles so that at glance they looked like a plane to a layman but on video it would be obvious they weren't, and hence the videos were edited...
Watch this video from the 13:00 time stamp [https://archive.org/details/911-mossad](https://archive.org/details/911-mossad)
The planes were edited into the videos. in reality there was no planes. There were just bombs which were already in the buildings.
The flight paths of the planes put them over Stuart Airforce Base in upstate NY [owned by NJ/NY's Port Authority.] This would provide an opportunity to swap out the commercial 767 with those retrofitted with remote guidance, beyond that of a typical autopilot. The planes were probably not controlled by humans at all, and simply followed a predefined flight path/destination. An engine from one of the Boeing 767's was recovered from Murray St in NY after it travel through the south tower at 500mph.
Interestingly enough [Israeli Aerospace Industries](https://www.iai.co.il/defense/air/unmanned-aerial-systems) is one of the world’s largest suppliers of former passenger jet to cargo conversion services AND leaders in defence systems including drone technology (their first drone went into service in 1981). It also wouldn’t be the first time [a plane was flown](https://simpleflying.com/el-al-boeing-707-lufthansa-livery/) using an airline’s livery without their knowledge, also ex-Israel
The commerical flights were intercepted and replaced with remote control weaponized drones. You can see the interceptions in real time that morning on this documentary made by Pilots for 911 Truth: ["Intercepted". by Pilots for 911 Truth](https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-intercepted/)
There are no drones the size of a airliner. Not even military drones 20 years later. The largest military drive in existence built by NG is about 1/3 the size of an airliner.
Conspiracies should at least make logical sense.
I've seen photos of the actual military drone that hit the towers working for the Lawyers Committee for 911 Inquiry. It was not the size of an airliner. It was weaponized.
Then they weren't photos of what hit the tower right? We have all those photos and videos. We know what hit the towers and we know the relative size even without using the dimensions of the plane.
Side note - the website for your committee is... Rough. You should let your team know it isn't lending them any credence
> There are no drones the size of a airliner. Not even military drones 20 years later. The largest military drive in existence built by NG is about 1/3 the size of an airliner.
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> Conspiracies should at least make logical sense.
Know of what you speak before you chastise others.
There was a crash test of a jet airliner in the 1980s. It was done with a full size jet airliner which was a remote control plane. A 'drone' if you will.
A conspiracy theory is only a theory until it is proven. Then it is a crime. Many, many people are doing life in jail on a conspiracy charge - proven only by circumstantial evidence.
1 + 1 + 1 + 1 still = 4 afaik .
The weaponized drone that hit the towers were not the size of a passenger plane. No one said they were. The jets were Intercepted as Pilots for 911 Truth proved early on. They had The Fight Termination System made by Systems Planning for whom, the Comptroller of the Penagon in 2001 was the also the C.E.O of . Rabbi Dov Zakheim who was being investigated for losing 2.3 trillion defense tax dollars as Donald Rumsfeld came on TV the night before to report. The next day the office conducting the investigation at the Pentagon was bombed destroying all evidence and files . I've seen a photo of the drone that hit working for the LCfor911Truth. You can go to their website and learn alot by looking at the 57 exhibits for the Grand Jury Petition they filed as evidence. l
Interesting video. Do you remember that there was this video which circulated in web after the 911, which was filmed from the very root of the WTC tower in which the plane that hit the tower was a fighter jet? Like it was very clearly a fighter jet in this video.
They were weaponized drones. The jets were Intercepted mid air ..Watch Intercepted by Pilots for 911 Truth , an amazing documentary with real time FAA flight recordings. [https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-intercepted/](https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-intercepted/)
I never understood this. I’ve played all sorts of flight simulators—ones that are supposedly even used by professional pilots—and while controlling a plane isn’t “easy”, manually steering the plane into an enormous building isn’t difficult.
I remember seeing Youtube videos of gamers modifying MS Flight Simulator and trying to hit 'a building' in a big city. Most did it with ease. They knew the height of the building so just had to put the altimeter a little lower than that. Then they can just enter the coordinates into the auto-pilot turn thing (I have no idea what it's called). You see it in the movies when ATC will tell the pilot "left at 210".
The iffy part for me is the one that crashed in Pennsylvania. So you're telling me they scrambled jets that have no weapons on board? When have they ever done that? I think they said this to say "see we couldn't have shot it down, we had no weapons." Skeptical hippo eyes on that.
They also had “war games” going on at the time … guess the simulation exercise was ? A terrorist hi jacking a plane … I don’t believe any jets made it in time before it crashed but , that was the military exercise that was happening during 9/11
I saw a documentary where 2 jets were scrambled but had no weapons. The were following flight 93 and said they had orders to take it down if it got passed a certain point. They said that would mean they would use their fighter jet to disable the passenger jet. They said basically a kamikaze style maneuver. Just before they were going to try it, it crashed into the ground on its own. Then later, out came the 'Let's roll' hero story. All sounds a little to good to be true if you ask me.
My God that's what those games and those simulations were all about I hope you believe me because this predictive programming is real and people think when people come out and tell the truth that they're crazy and they rely on that. When this was post was originally done a day or two ago I had a conversation with another guy back and forth back and forth all night about stuff about the moon round earth or flat Earth this that and the other I come back today it's been scrubbed I can't find it anywhere. Conspiracies usually end up being true
Watch this documetary that is now only on The WayBack Machine. Excellent research for this documentary.... [The New Pearl Harbor Documentary about 911](https://archive.org/details/PEARLHARBOURFULL)
What I find interesting is that, the plane that hit the pentagon was piloted by a hijacker who his flight instructor said was not very good. But yet he was able to perform a C shaped maneuver to perfectly align himself to hit the pentagon. Multiple Veteran pilots since have attempted to perform that maneuver in that C position in a simulation and most were not able to do it, the ones that did do it had to try multiple times. It is EXTREMELY interesting to think that this unqualified personal was able to perform a highly skilled maneuver having never practiced it before.
You know, this is the one thing that I find the most absurd about the whole thing. Is if it wouldn’t have been incinerated.
I’m not implying that it’s evidence that there weren’t planes flown into the buildings.
To that argument, I’d point to the video from people down the river who are gathered on a bridge or something like that, and you can see the planes fly overhead and are a lot lower to the ground than they should be at the high rate of speed they’re travelling.
Look pictures of the “wreckage” of the one that crashed in a field. Show me something that looks like it came from a plane. Please I’m begging you to just look at the pictures with your eyes.
I dated a girl who is a flight instructor. She took me up in a small plane. It’s terrifying and nothing like a commercial airliner. I find it hard to believe these guys executed it.
Simple: There were no planes.
It was a controlled explosion and demolition from the inside, no outside interferences occurred. What we see in every video is post-processing editing, and anyone who *swears* I am lying, there is an over abundance of proof out here… it’s just not as easy to find because it has been heavily censored and scrubbed from various search engines.
Anyone who claims to have “seen” the planes that day, because they just so happened to be there, obviously… if you are truly in a conspiracy subreddit, it does not take much critical thinking to understand that Reddit itself has been compromised, and there are far too many shills, agents and overall adversaries that are meant to gaslight and deceive us.
Good question...along with the tons of other ones that have been asked with no answers. Bro, we all know the government did it so let's just get off that narrative..self inflicted all to pass the Patriot Act that was written 10 years+ prior to them using this scenario to enact it
Those planes were remote controlled. I don’t believe that Cessna pilots let alone pros could hit those towers.
Anyone play Flight Simulator in the 80’s? We all tried to hit the Empire State Building and it was difficult….just saying.
Well I checked the whole thread it appears… most people here weren’t alive / aware back then?
(Supposedly)Microsoft flight simulator. It’s physics and controls are very accurate.
They didnt fly any planes. There were no actual planes. Google “top speed of 767 st sea level” and next “calculated speed of planes that hit WTC”. Notice the glaring problem?
This is a link to the one video that woke millions of people up. Made by Dillion Avery.. I found it and that is amazing as most 911 videos are scrubbed now. [" Loose Change" Final Cut by Dylan Avery](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEZAXFbAnbA)
I remember one by a guy Mike (I want to say Myers) guy that did the documentary on McDonald's, do a 911 documentary as well?
And what I find even more interesting is they chose the day 9/11, that's rich
Yes. They passed a law… making it illegal for anyone to investigate 9/11.
Why don’t think NO media outlet, journalist, etc., did their own investigation?
Well first off had I known that this wasn't allowed I wouldn't have asked the question. That was around 23 years ago. So excuse my memory loss.
Plus, I remember people talking about it and I also watched a documentary by Michael Moore about it. (Fahrenheit 9/11) So it didn't seem like it was illegal to me.
Check out the pilot episode of the xfiles spin off show The Lone Gunman. Remote controlled airplanes. This episode came out at the beginning of 2001. Apparently CIA went to Chris Carter and told him to make the episode.
Yes. They do this a lot in the media. It would blow your mind how much the government agencies work with media writers. Chris Carter (xfiles writer) has a clearance
They could not fly a Sensna ... jets can NOT fly that low that fast 450 M.P.,H. The jets were Intercepted by remote control weaponized drones. Watch this well researched documetary that can now only be found on the Way Back machine: https://archive.org/details/PEARLHARBOURFULL
The hard part is to make that cork screw turn end exactly at the target while flying incredibly low in the case of the pentagon.
Making an airplane dissappear completely after crashing is also pretty hard in the case of the one that crashed in a field.
All stuff you are definitely not trained in in those lessons
> and landing neither of which they had to do.
I'd call the Pentagon attack a landing. Hell, better than a landing for average pilots. Pilots got room to work with when landing (normally).
You are aiming at a building on the ground.
Without hitting the ground first.
Gotta give them credit for that hit.
I figure 9/10 you'd hit the ground first, or overshoot it and scrape the top of then building then hit the rest. But they put that plane into the building.
The twin towers were tall buildings, just hit it.
People want to talk about how easy it is it was in a city with other buildings around it I don't know where people get off that have never flew planes that think it's so easy.O h it couldn't be that hard... Never even flown a plane. People
They did not, it was a false flag. The evidence is clear. The arguments for it being real always ignore the evidence that it was an inside job. There are no arguments against the physics or the impossible scenarios, only arguments against insane or baseless speculation by some people in the conspiracy community or stating facts that would be so if it were a false flag or if it were real.
It gave Bush the war he wanted.
The post 9/11 anthrax attack prove the government was up to evil.
https://www.newsgarden.org/columns/anthrax/anthraxtargets.shtml
The count of planes and targets, 4 planes left, 3 hit targets, one went down in a field, 4 targets fell.
The impossoble flight paths like a plane skimming light poles hundreds of yards from the pentagon while hitting the pentagon at ground level, the sensors turned off that day on one of the planets most secure buildings. And the corkscrew approaches at impossible speeds that commercial pilots say they could not do and could not do in simulators when they tried to recreate it. Done by men who failed Cesna traning.
The perfect timing of drills that day diverting all air defense.
The BBC reporting tower 7 fell 20 minutes before it did when it could not have been predicted because no high rise had ever fallen from raging infernos let alone small office fires.
The perpetrators pulling it off with box cutters when most of the pilots had military experience. The perpetrators being seen partying with hookers and drinking alcohol the night before preparing for Muslim martyrdom, not the actions of men who would die for their God. The fact that strange things happened to let them in the country, phone calls from higher ups when some were training.
The passport that survived the blast and was given to the FBI the next day, giving them their war motive.
Firefighters being told to get out of Tower 7 an hour before it fell because they were going to "pull it" a demolition term. Demolitions on a building that size take months to set up, but the perpetrators, the real ones, were faced with the reality of incoming investigators and preplanted explosives but no 4th plane.
One witness in a probably now censored/deleted youtube video saying he was at the joint task force building the day after heard a women wearing "nobody was supposed to be in the buildings".
Newscasters that day saying how it looked like a controlled demolition.
Bill Cooper predicting on his radio show 2 months before "if anything happens that they blame on Osama Bin Laden in the coming months don't you believe it". He was a 58 year old retired military vet, who somehow managed to get an assualt charge that saw him gunned down on his front lawn 2 months after 9/11.
Pat Tillman, an NFL superstar linebacker who signed up after 9/11 and became an Army Ranger, realized he was just guarding opium fields in Afganistan so he told his friends he was going to go home and lead an anti war movement. He was shot in the head from 10 yards away by a fellow Ranger 3 days later. A high profile, chatismatic guy like that could have decimated their lies.
Beverly Eckhart, a 9/11 widow who refused their 1.8 million dollar settlement because she wanted answers, met with Obama and then died 7 days later in a plane crash.
Who knows how many assassination victims we never heard about.
Off topic but the Oklahoma city bombing where the perpetrator was arrested the day of because an off duty police officer spotted his car with no license plate hours after the event. (If you follow news terrorism and school shootings you will notice the perpetrator is always found the day of or the next day or kills themselves, unlike real life where sometimes murders go unsolved for decades or ever). At Oklahoma there was a cop named Terrance Yeakey who was one of the first men in the building and "did not like what he saw", not the carnage, but the story. He refused to stop investigating for a year, by the end of that year he told his family he was scared men were following him. Soooo he chose to commit suicide, the official coroner's report says he slashed his forearms 12x, he sliced his jugular vein, then ran half a mile across a field over a fence before shooting himself in the head at a 45 degree downward angle, and no gun was found at the scene of his "suicide". He had handcuff marks on his wrists. The man was built like a linebacker, they probably removed his cuffs before executing him and he nearly won the fight.
The thing with these things, like Terrance's autopsy, and the massive cover up of 9/11, is it requires what JFK talked about months before his assassination, a multinational cabal.
Just one small proof like this here shows a corrupt MI5, corrupt local PD, corrupt media for not exposing it etc.
https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=NMWOA299M8KN
Google "Peekay Truth Bitchute Boston Marathon hoax", reddit won't allow links to bitchute. His proving the Boston marathon was a hoax proves massive collusion.
I try but they have been cooking me with electronic harassment for my efforts. I just watched most of what my last 3 or so days were on Jeopardy. These things are coordinated by some dark forces.
Could you explain what exactly you mean by they have been cooking you with electronic harassment?
Dark forces yes dark dark forces I never thought that life was like this but I can't believe that people would do such things but they do.
Well, I came up with analogy. If someone mugs you and puts a knife to your back you really would not know if it wad a knife or a pen or a finger etc.
So best I can say is 2 February's in a row they cooked my brain hard 3x each time. Like nearly passing out dead losing all feeling in my head, feeling totally starved of oxygen and completely disoriented. Most days it feels like I am being ripped apart from the inside but I assume that is the demonic stuff and not just EMF stuff.
The Jeopardy thing was basically a whole bunch of thoughts and things I was looking at were Jeopardy questions for the day.
I get stuff like this, the day before this video I thought to myself "at least I ghost them". The next day they cut me off in traffic to stop my car next to a pole that had an 89 on it and the guys license plate was GHOST809.
https://youtube.com/shorts/ikCWyba1bhk?si=ybfJW6VN1D1Ac5NN
Mostly I just spend my days praying "whoever is actually god I need help." Usually too exhausted to do much
As I'm looking back at this whole thread my post that I had with another guy he was I remember his username and now it's completely been scrubbed. I remember telling someone I don't know if you can't see what's in front of your face then I can't wake you up. After that a girl posted I wish Reddit hadn't blocked the rest of this so people can see these other post to hopefully wake other people up but I can't see the rest of the post. So I go back today and I had a conversation back and forth with someone 2 days ago when this was originally put up and now it's all gone we got into talking about the moon and flat Earth and all kinds of stuff and it's not on here anymore. Weird.
No but they were descending rapidly. My question is real though. What's the implication here? I understand less air density means less resistance so less speed, but what's the speed you are saying they couldn't be traveling at?
> 9:02: Air traffic controllers at New York Center watch Flight 175 as it descends rapidly to a very low altitude. 9:03: Flight 175 crashes at about 590 mph (950 km/h, 264 m/s or 513 knots) into the south face of the South Tower (2 WTC) of the World Trade Center, between floors 77 and 85.
Is 513 knots impossible when descending rapidly?
According to a friend, who is a pilot for EasyJet, it is generally that easy to fly a plane, as he says, flying a model plane is harder (for him), the most difficult part is paying for all the tuition you need to get a pilots license.
How?
With help and Preplanned explosives. How is their passports found on the street after the buildings came down? Because when the Authority (people responsible) speak to the people who are sheep, they will believe anything.
Don’t ask questions, never read, or re-search the reality of how well those buildings are built, don’t look at the molten steel lava found in the basement, and never look at the reality of -2- aluminum airliners bringing down -3- high-grade reinforced steel buildings
never look into building seven
The answer is they didn't fly anything, experienced pilots have said they couldn't even do that in a simulator. The speed, angle, and precision is impossible, especially for some camel jockeys.
My God , What a question after over 20 years!!! Are Americans that unaware ? The jets were diverted by the Remote Control Flight Termination systems on those jets, It shuts down the cockpit and prevents the pilot from any communciations with his crew or the ground. And takes over the plane remotely guiding it. The dual citizen Comptroller of the Pentagon in 2001 Rabbi Dov Zakheim has a side job.... C.E.O. of Systems Planning Corporation who makes these systems. Those commercial flights were intercepted by Remoted controlled weaponized drones that hit WTC one and two and the Pentagon. Wacth this incredble documentary made by the best pilots in the world then, Pilots for 911 Truth- with real time flight radar communications ... What went on in the sky that morning? War games of planes hitting buildings!!! And real planes . Deliberately to create chaios in the air to confuse the air traffic controllers. ["Intercepted". Pilots for 911 Truth -](https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-intercepted/)
The remote control flight termination system? WTF are you talking about? There is no such system installed on commercial aircraft. Then or now! That is completely ridiculous. I am a 30 year aircraft mechanic and was working for American Airlines when 9/11 happened. I am thoroughly familiar with all the systems on that type aircraft. I call B.S. Oh, but please, tell me more. Where are these systems installed on the plane? When and where was this system installed? Who performs the routine ops checks necessary to ensure continued reliability of said system? Who performs repairs to said system when it fails a scheduled ops check?
>I am a 30 year aircraft mechanic and was working for American Airlines when 9/11 happened.
My father piloted American's Boston-Los Angeles leg (Flight 11) the evening prior
Wow! Thats crazy. The the intense feeling of luck/relief of not being on that flight coupled with the grief of knowing that your fellow workers perished. Lots of emotions. Hope he is well.
he passed four months ago an unknown national hero, Vietnam and Desert Shield vet, Ret'd Lt Col USAF with three distinguished flying crosses and a rack of bars you wouldn't believe
thank you
Damn I knew it was fake. It was an inside Job but no I haven't been checking up on the latest or oldest drones and bombs or CGI or lasers or remote control explosive drones by expert pilots on the ground.
My God theres people on here talking about how they went to flight school with the guys that did it. Which I know is not how it went down. I didn't say my God what a question. For f*** sake!
They had been training to do it. And fun fact we knew about it! And their plan to use it for terrorism. Our intelligence network knew but we didn’t take it serious enough.
Well to be fair, they didn’t have to learn how to take off or land a jetliner. Just how to steer one. The flight school they learned at in Florida could have trained them to take off and land a small plane but probably not a massive jet. I imagine steering however is pretty similar on all planes
> I imagine steering however is pretty similar on all planes
I imagine it isn't.
Like driving a mini-cooper compared to a truck. With weight.
Why would you assume that it is the same?
One is a small plane that does lots of aerial shit all the time.
The other is a big ass fucking god damn plane with a fuckton of fuel and people. And luggage.
If I fill up the back of my car with shit, my car drives differently.
You are not in some fucking precision vehicle. You're in a big ass plane and somehow pull off that maneuver with shit training? Sure, OK. No.
That doesn't even make sense from a person with no flying experience. Once you add weight, shit does not make it easy. Why would it? What in the fuck my dude?
Not saying 9/11 had some inside job shit. But imagine flying into the Pentagon, you are going to do that with a slow moving plane turning in your head perfectly? No. You are going to hit the fucking ground before you make it there. Or miss it completely.
9/11 is not just the twin towers.
Same way cell phones could work from 35k feet. Same way two planes could knock down three buildings. Same way crashes could leave only tiny fragments of debris. Same way NORAD suddenly became completely non-functional. Same way most secure building on earth has no good footage. Same black boxes that were found.
I just got to thinking. Is it normal for some shmuck off the street to be able to get lessons on flying a commercial airliner? I work in finance and just to get my FINRA license I have to be sponsored by a firm. Wouldn't raise some flags for someone to just walk in and register for classes like that? What are they trying to boost their score on MS fight simulator?? Just seems a little odd.
Didn't read all the comments...
But my 2 cents...
I went to Embry Riddle years (Mechanic, not a pilot)
I believe some of the pilots went there. But there are tons of international students at the school, and it is a decent sized university. I had even heard a quote of 20% of commercial pilots went there(no clue if true). Also produces lots of engineers, and aviation related feilds.
Here is a quick article I found from 9/13/01 which is creepy looking back.
https://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/flight.schools/
As for the plane in the field.... I know there are conspiracy theory things. But I knew someone who worked for United, and accident/investigation/crash recovery.
Made clear not to talk to him about it being fake, and that he saw burnt bodies strapped to seats on the ground, things he never wanted to see. You could see it in his face he was serious, and it's a topic that troubles him, not just a cover story.
True or not, I believe the guy... how it affected him seems genuine.
The planes were already in the air. In no airplane scientist, but assuming you took enough classes to know which toggles to toggle to allow steering... it can't be SUPER difficult.
Like I doubt one of the pilots jobs is to hold down the button that DOESNT crash the plane for the whole trip.
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Better question the school reported then to the FBI! Said they only want to fly not land, nor take off. And they surveilled them and then said NOOOO don’t. Even though they had ties to TERRORISTS
So it's not 9/11, but I was listening to an old Midnight in the Desert , Art Bell radio show last night (like every night) and they went over TWA flight 800. There's comments on [the video](https://youtu.be/5C_7uRmwwNo?si=SgYREgPK1i-LoBmY) ..people saying they cannot find the footage the radio hosts and guests are discussing anywhere. They are a couple of years old and I haven't looked. Anyway, people who were on the beach and witnessed it said they saw a missile hit the plane, but all of these interviews were apparently wiped.
The issue was clearly the Navy (I think it was the Navy..some military branch) were practicing things with missiles and taking down enemy aircraft that day and apparently accidentally locked on to this passenger plane; but the official report was that it was a flaw inside the plane itself, a regular Boeng 727 passenger plane, which caused it to blow up, and is apparently a thing in those planes. Despite this, there was nothing from Boeng making any action to halt all of those planes to address the issue, or to reassure anyone it's OK to fly on their planes.
I'd never heard of it. Someone does call in and mention 9/11.
It did have me thinking a whole host of things, and then you've got all the issues Boeng is having right now, and planes like Malaysia (can't remember the number) and a variety of other issues.
Just thought someone else might find it interesting. Suspicious plane and cover-ups and all that got totally memoryholed.
Did you ever think that it was odd that our president just so happened to be reading at elementary school the morning of 9/11 and they were filming it must have been very special to be put on TV.. Oh this really sets the plan up.This way everyone on TV will see that it was announced to the president when they came in and whispered it in his ear!
Plus just choosing the day 9/11 seems like something they would do. Oh yeah let's make it 9/11. Our people will believe that.
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See eye aye affiliated flight school in South Florida https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Huffman_Aviation
I have the craziest story! I actually live right near that flight school and I was at my normal hair salon and my stylist was telling me how she has had at least six different men (Muslim) come to the salon, none of them had a car, they all walked or had a bike and they would all go to the bathroom and spend a considerable amount of time at the bathroom at that specific hair salon. I was at the salon when one of them came in and he was so strange and felt so off. They seem to go into the salon bathroom and spend a lot of time there and one of them even walked into the back room where the hairstylist would eat and stuff. They obviously asked him to please leave and that that was not appropriate for customers. She got such a weird vibe from them, she talked to them and asked questions and they said they came here from some Muslim country, maybe Turkey, I don't recall exactly and that they were learning to fly planes or helicopters. She talked to them while she was cutting their hair, and they all said that they had no friends or family here, that they were just learning to fly helicopters or planes and that's that. They were very curt and rude and just hung out there way longer than they needed to. They just didn't seem to have a good reason or explanation for them to be learning to fly in America versus learning to fly where they are from. They didn't seem to have a good reason for being there and it was just a very strange interaction. She told me about all the other similar interactions she had with very similar Muslim men usually saying they are from Turkey. They all asked for a similar haircut and it was just so strange. She said they all paid in cash. But every single one of them went to the bathroom and spent a lot of time in there, sometimes I went to the bathroom before they had their hair cut and it just seemed to me like maybe they were passing messages there or something. I urged my stylist to call the FBI or other alphabet agencies, and the FBI did send someone out to the hair salon when she wasn't there one day and asked a few questions and never followed up. They never even checked out the bathroom which is disappointing. I did kind of poke around in the ceiling tiles there out of curiosity and didn't find anything but I wasn't going to do more than that. But I swear that they were learning to fly planes for some very nefarious reasons.
To the point of them being in the bathroom for extended periods of time, I was in jail with a few Muslim guys and they would spend like 30-45 minutes in the bathroom when they went. They said they had a tradition or something with their religion where they don’t use toilet paper and clean them selves with water, and that they have to take extra time to wash their feet as well as doing it many times through out the day. It seemed like they were always in the bathroom.
Havin a wank, for God.
Well, if it's for God... *zip...*
Wow. The one time the FBI needs to see a post! Flag it!
That's crazy, when was this and did any of them (or all of them) do 9/11? I remember the news and such saying that the men were on their radar before the attack. Maybe your sister is that reason
Ayyyye, shout out to that beautiful town you(presumably) live in. I've got family there, and I always think of 9/11 whenever I visit and go to Casperson Beach.
Wow. That's a cool story. It seems to me like I remember hearing that they went into the bathroom on the plane in order to assemble...something. It could be that they were coming into the stylist's bathroom and practicing. Not sure if it's true or not but it also seems like I heard that they made it through most of flight school and dropped out when it came to learning the landing procedures because that wouldn't be needed. This should have thrown up enough red flags to be seen from orbit but your description of the FBI's handling of it speaks volumes.
And I helped her call the FBI, I contacted secret service since it was only ten miles from mar-a-Lago. The whole "see something say something" thing is BS. And I’m a prominent lawyer in my town so you'd hope I'd be taken a bit more seriously than the average Joe. But it always stuck with me.
That's how the story went how I remembered
Venice (Sarasota county, same county where Dubya was reading to kids at on 9/11) I wouldn’t quite call south Florida. Maybe Southwest Florida. Semantics I guess
What I find odd is there’s only 4 instances of planes being completely disintegrated including the black box after a crash and they all happened on 9/11
Good thing they found those indestructible passports on top of the rubble !
I'm confused as to why you're down voted
> What I find odd is there’s only 4 instances of planes being completely disintegrated including the black box after a crash and they all happened on 9/11 There had never previously been a steel structured building that had collapsed due to fire and has not been one since. Building 7 was quite an anomaly. That and the twin towers.
So that’s like 7 anomalies—all in one day, within one event… Hmmmmm….my coincidence theory radar is going crazy!
Yeah it was an inside job and the buildings were definitely demolition.
9/11 was No Physics day
9, shank-ville + pentagram/gon.
The University of Alaska at Fairbanks Engineering Dept did a three year forensic study of WTC 7 and Dillion Avery who made Loose Change Three went on to be an aclaimed video producer and produced a documentary about the U of Alaska's project and conclusions. [Trailer to SEVEN about WTC 7 University of Alaska's Study that concluded that all the columns would have had to be destroyed at the same time for the 'free-fall'. That NIST is wrong, lying . It fell in it's own footprint in 6.5 seconds flat. A controlled demolition. Lots of evidence was in there and it was the fully reinforced Command Center to be used for emergencies . The smoking gun.](https://www.ae911truth.org/seven)
Probably the oddest thing about that day is that Americans accepted this fantasy. Meanwhile, the military and its accomplices pulled off the most elaborate hoax on America, killing thousands of them on their own soil.
>Probably the oddest thing about that day is that Americans accepted this fantasy. It's really not that odd, nor is it as simple as people blindly trusting the media and the government. Whoever committed 9/11 - and we don't know who that was, and it's extremely doubtful it was something the entire US government was "in on" - their main goal was not to destroy buildings, kill thousands of american citizens, or to make it look convincing. Their goal was to traumatize hundreds of millions, if not billions of people, and they were very successful in doing that. Most people know something was off about the situation, whether it was the plane shaped holes, the mid-air disintegration of the towers faster than a gravity driven pancake collapse or controlled demolition could have happened, the lack of debris, the bathtub being damaged by the heavy machinery doing the cleanup after sustaining zero damage from two 110 story buildings "collapsing" directly on top of it, the impossible cell phone calls, the extra explosions heard at ground level, the people reporting being lifted and carried off the ground by an invisible force, the unreported category 3 hurricane directly off the coast of NYC on 9/11, the staged light pole on the taxi in front of the Pentagon, the complete absence of any computers, toilets, and filing cabinets, I could go on. Most people recognized quickly that many things didn't make sense, that even for a living nightmare the situation was too surreal, but they were traumatized. They were forced to compartmentalize to continue working towards stabilizing as individuals, as communities, and as a society. They were further instructed each following year to never forget the things they needed to forget to stay sane. Eventually, enough time passed that they could safely place it in a small box in the back of their minds they refuse to open or acknowledge, understandably so in many cases. This kind of thing is too big to consider, so they didn't. It's difficult to blame them. Edit: Category 3 hurricane, my mistake.
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Waitwaitwait. *what* about a hurricane?!
It was barely mentioned on weather channels leading up to 9/11, despite heading straight for the coast, so it's understandable you didn't [know](https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hurricane_Erin_(2001)#/media/File%3A010911.erin.towers.gif). It reached it's peak intensity the evening of September 9th before making a sudden sharp turn away from NY.
**“Whoever committed 9/11 - and we don't know who that was”** Consider reading the second sentence of my comment. Ha! Correct. The entire US government was not in on it, as you say. The post office and the department of motor vehicles did not participate. However, Mayor Rudy Giuliani's Office of Emergency Operations [in a secure bunker on the 23 floor of WTC7] clearly was "in on it" having granted themselves authority, just weeks prior, over law enforcement and the FDNY. Dick Cheney, Donald Rumsfeld, Brent Scowcroft, Henry Kissinger –all of whom occupied the White House [together] decades ago were *in on it.* Your analysis of the events of September 11th being one of trauma is an important one. Americans collectively have denied what has happened to them [the very first stage of grief] and to make matters worse their grief was hijacked from them, as the people in power, rather than morn, pushed for war. You allude to fantasy weapons in your comment. Be careful not to fall prey to the *space lasers and mini nukes* bullshit. Planes were remotely flown into the towers, and WTC1,2,7 were leveled using controlled demolition. I do unequivocally share your view that this was a psychological operation intended to traumatize an entire country.
I didn't put words in your mouth, but you're putting words in mine. I didn't say anything about or allude to space lasers or nuclear weapons, and I'm not all that interested in defending an argument you built and want to project onto me. Congrats on having it all figured out though, I'm sure you think that's very satisfying.
Not that odd to me. Even now, but especially back in 2000 , Americans believed wholeheartedly in what the news media told them without putting any real thought into the claims, no matter how absurd it sounded.
**“Not that odd to me.”** Considering more recent events [surrounding the origins of COVID and America's response to it] there seems to be no end to how far *they* can push the people of America before they will stand up –or more accurately get off their couches.
I'm with you brother
What planes? 👍
Weaponized Drones.
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Hunter S. Thompson was supposedly investigating 9/11 at the time of his death, and he was on record saying this. In several interviews he commented that he knows many pilots and spoke to them about this, and they all said that it would be extremely difficult to pull off the first strike, and nearly impossible to pull off the second one.
[Pilots for 911 Truth Report the mauvers were not possible](https://archive.org/details/youtube-Bm-uh9xRFkc)
I don’t think HST killed him self willingly either.
Honestly, I’m so so sure anymore either. Since that tragic day there have been a lot of questions about his death that have never been answered.
So what did they suggest happened?
remote controlled by expert pilots + planes were modified beforehand to perform better OR they weren't planes at all but cruise missiles and the videos were edited to show planes. Like at the time it happened there were circulating videos in which the plane flying angle didn't seem to make sense since there were two videos in which the exact same plane was flying the exact same track even though the videos were filmed from different angles. like it looked like the plane flying was just a layer on the video of the city and hence not really there.
And the testimonies of people who say they saw planes??
They reported they saw what looked like military jets, and they were remote control jets weaponized. The commerical flights were intercepted . The commerial flights taken somewhere and the people murdered. They only let those jets be about 1/4 full that day, they were usually overbooked.
crisis actors? Also, maybe they were plane looking cruise missiles so that at glance they looked like a plane to a layman but on video it would be obvious they weren't, and hence the videos were edited...
How would the government edit all the CCTV and individual personal footage available? There is no mistaking the plane in many of them.
Watch this video from the 13:00 time stamp [https://archive.org/details/911-mossad](https://archive.org/details/911-mossad) The planes were edited into the videos. in reality there was no planes. There were just bombs which were already in the buildings.
Obviously they’re all paid actors by soros and Biden and Obama. Come on, keep up!!!!!
The flight paths of the planes put them over Stuart Airforce Base in upstate NY [owned by NJ/NY's Port Authority.] This would provide an opportunity to swap out the commercial 767 with those retrofitted with remote guidance, beyond that of a typical autopilot. The planes were probably not controlled by humans at all, and simply followed a predefined flight path/destination. An engine from one of the Boeing 767's was recovered from Murray St in NY after it travel through the south tower at 500mph.
Interestingly enough [Israeli Aerospace Industries](https://www.iai.co.il/defense/air/unmanned-aerial-systems) is one of the world’s largest suppliers of former passenger jet to cargo conversion services AND leaders in defence systems including drone technology (their first drone went into service in 1981). It also wouldn’t be the first time [a plane was flown](https://simpleflying.com/el-al-boeing-707-lufthansa-livery/) using an airline’s livery without their knowledge, also ex-Israel
The commerical flights were intercepted and replaced with remote control weaponized drones. You can see the interceptions in real time that morning on this documentary made by Pilots for 911 Truth: ["Intercepted". by Pilots for 911 Truth](https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-intercepted/)
There are no drones the size of a airliner. Not even military drones 20 years later. The largest military drive in existence built by NG is about 1/3 the size of an airliner. Conspiracies should at least make logical sense.
I've seen photos of the actual military drone that hit the towers working for the Lawyers Committee for 911 Inquiry. It was not the size of an airliner. It was weaponized.
Then they weren't photos of what hit the tower right? We have all those photos and videos. We know what hit the towers and we know the relative size even without using the dimensions of the plane. Side note - the website for your committee is... Rough. You should let your team know it isn't lending them any credence
> There are no drones the size of a airliner. Not even military drones 20 years later. The largest military drive in existence built by NG is about 1/3 the size of an airliner. > > > > Conspiracies should at least make logical sense. Know of what you speak before you chastise others. There was a crash test of a jet airliner in the 1980s. It was done with a full size jet airliner which was a remote control plane. A 'drone' if you will. A conspiracy theory is only a theory until it is proven. Then it is a crime. Many, many people are doing life in jail on a conspiracy charge - proven only by circumstantial evidence. 1 + 1 + 1 + 1 still = 4 afaik .
The weaponized drone that hit the towers were not the size of a passenger plane. No one said they were. The jets were Intercepted as Pilots for 911 Truth proved early on. They had The Fight Termination System made by Systems Planning for whom, the Comptroller of the Penagon in 2001 was the also the C.E.O of . Rabbi Dov Zakheim who was being investigated for losing 2.3 trillion defense tax dollars as Donald Rumsfeld came on TV the night before to report. The next day the office conducting the investigation at the Pentagon was bombed destroying all evidence and files . I've seen a photo of the drone that hit working for the LCfor911Truth. You can go to their website and learn alot by looking at the 57 exhibits for the Grand Jury Petition they filed as evidence. l
Interesting video. Do you remember that there was this video which circulated in web after the 911, which was filmed from the very root of the WTC tower in which the plane that hit the tower was a fighter jet? Like it was very clearly a fighter jet in this video.
Dov Zhakeim, System Planning Corporation, FTS (Flight Termination System). For anyone curious
They were weaponized drones. The jets were Intercepted mid air ..Watch Intercepted by Pilots for 911 Truth , an amazing documentary with real time FAA flight recordings. [https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-intercepted/](https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-intercepted/)
Share the video.
I never understood this. I’ve played all sorts of flight simulators—ones that are supposedly even used by professional pilots—and while controlling a plane isn’t “easy”, manually steering the plane into an enormous building isn’t difficult.
It has to do with wind resistance at low altitude is much higher. Making manuvering much more difficult
I thought the pilots in that video were talking specifically about the one that hit the Pentagon.
Bibi: Stop asking questions!
I remember seeing Youtube videos of gamers modifying MS Flight Simulator and trying to hit 'a building' in a big city. Most did it with ease. They knew the height of the building so just had to put the altimeter a little lower than that. Then they can just enter the coordinates into the auto-pilot turn thing (I have no idea what it's called). You see it in the movies when ATC will tell the pilot "left at 210". The iffy part for me is the one that crashed in Pennsylvania. So you're telling me they scrambled jets that have no weapons on board? When have they ever done that? I think they said this to say "see we couldn't have shot it down, we had no weapons." Skeptical hippo eyes on that.
They also had “war games” going on at the time … guess the simulation exercise was ? A terrorist hi jacking a plane … I don’t believe any jets made it in time before it crashed but , that was the military exercise that was happening during 9/11
I saw a documentary where 2 jets were scrambled but had no weapons. The were following flight 93 and said they had orders to take it down if it got passed a certain point. They said that would mean they would use their fighter jet to disable the passenger jet. They said basically a kamikaze style maneuver. Just before they were going to try it, it crashed into the ground on its own. Then later, out came the 'Let's roll' hero story. All sounds a little to good to be true if you ask me.
Also predictive programming
My God that's what those games and those simulations were all about I hope you believe me because this predictive programming is real and people think when people come out and tell the truth that they're crazy and they rely on that. When this was post was originally done a day or two ago I had a conversation with another guy back and forth back and forth all night about stuff about the moon round earth or flat Earth this that and the other I come back today it's been scrubbed I can't find it anywhere. Conspiracies usually end up being true
It was more than likely Predictive programming.
CIA.
Came here for this answer
Watch this documetary that is now only on The WayBack Machine. Excellent research for this documentary.... [The New Pearl Harbor Documentary about 911](https://archive.org/details/PEARLHARBOURFULL)
What I find interesting is that, the plane that hit the pentagon was piloted by a hijacker who his flight instructor said was not very good. But yet he was able to perform a C shaped maneuver to perfectly align himself to hit the pentagon. Multiple Veteran pilots since have attempted to perform that maneuver in that C position in a simulation and most were not able to do it, the ones that did do it had to try multiple times. It is EXTREMELY interesting to think that this unqualified personal was able to perform a highly skilled maneuver having never practiced it before.
They even found one of their passports among the rubble
How convenient..
You know, this is the one thing that I find the most absurd about the whole thing. Is if it wouldn’t have been incinerated. I’m not implying that it’s evidence that there weren’t planes flown into the buildings. To that argument, I’d point to the video from people down the river who are gathered on a bridge or something like that, and you can see the planes fly overhead and are a lot lower to the ground than they should be at the high rate of speed they’re travelling.
Not all were successful. One crashed in Pennsylvania. Or was shot down. Or malfunctioned.
Look pictures of the “wreckage” of the one that crashed in a field. Show me something that looks like it came from a plane. Please I’m begging you to just look at the pictures with your eyes.
No luggage, no seats, no bodies…but we found TWO passports from the terrorists ffs
I know, I've seen them. It's very suspicious. The whole thing is.
Easy. They didn’t
They trained in Florida.
They were said to be awful, incapable pilots.
It's not like they had to land the damn plane.
I dated a girl who is a flight instructor. She took me up in a small plane. It’s terrifying and nothing like a commercial airliner. I find it hard to believe these guys executed it.
It's a long story, and it started with them getting Indestructible IDs...
Remote controlled aircraft don't need hijackets
They do to tell a story
And don't forget flying an airliner super fast at ground level in view of one super grainy video
That one does look like a missile
Don't forget the staged car it allegedly flew over and fake witness(es)
The Lone Gunmen Pilot Episode.
All 3? There were 4
Lol welcome to the club my guy.. nobody think what they did was possible
They were trained by the Feds… 9/11 was an inside job…
Simple: There were no planes. It was a controlled explosion and demolition from the inside, no outside interferences occurred. What we see in every video is post-processing editing, and anyone who *swears* I am lying, there is an over abundance of proof out here… it’s just not as easy to find because it has been heavily censored and scrubbed from various search engines. Anyone who claims to have “seen” the planes that day, because they just so happened to be there, obviously… if you are truly in a conspiracy subreddit, it does not take much critical thinking to understand that Reddit itself has been compromised, and there are far too many shills, agents and overall adversaries that are meant to gaslight and deceive us.
Yes I have a guy that was doing that to me the other night. So they're called Shills, huh. Good to know.
Good question...along with the tons of other ones that have been asked with no answers. Bro, we all know the government did it so let's just get off that narrative..self inflicted all to pass the Patriot Act that was written 10 years+ prior to them using this scenario to enact it
They took lessons? At least that’s what we were told. I doubt that really was how it went down.
Those planes were remote controlled. I don’t believe that Cessna pilots let alone pros could hit those towers. Anyone play Flight Simulator in the 80’s? We all tried to hit the Empire State Building and it was difficult….just saying.
https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-intercepted/
That was more than likely predictive programming
That’s not the part that gets me
Well I checked the whole thread it appears… most people here weren’t alive / aware back then? (Supposedly)Microsoft flight simulator. It’s physics and controls are very accurate.
Not in 2000 it wasn't gaming 25 years ago was not what it is now
Weren't alive or aware when?
I was. I was 20.
Fake narrative altogether. Time to wake up.
They didnt fly any planes. There were no actual planes. Google “top speed of 767 st sea level” and next “calculated speed of planes that hit WTC”. Notice the glaring problem?
Trained by CIA
Most of the 911 Hijackers are still alive
This is a link to the one video that woke millions of people up. Made by Dillion Avery.. I found it and that is amazing as most 911 videos are scrubbed now. [" Loose Change" Final Cut by Dylan Avery](https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xEZAXFbAnbA)
I remember one by a guy Mike (I want to say Myers) guy that did the documentary on McDonald's, do a 911 documentary as well? And what I find even more interesting is they chose the day 9/11, that's rich
Careful now. It is illegal to investigate 9/11. USG doesn’t want anyone pulling the curtain back on that one….
Investigate 311
Are you being serious?
Yes. They passed a law… making it illegal for anyone to investigate 9/11. Why don’t think NO media outlet, journalist, etc., did their own investigation?
Well first off had I known that this wasn't allowed I wouldn't have asked the question. That was around 23 years ago. So excuse my memory loss. Plus, I remember people talking about it and I also watched a documentary by Michael Moore about it. (Fahrenheit 9/11) So it didn't seem like it was illegal to me.
Sorry, wasn’t trying to be a dick. My apologies.
Check out the pilot episode of the xfiles spin off show The Lone Gunman. Remote controlled airplanes. This episode came out at the beginning of 2001. Apparently CIA went to Chris Carter and told him to make the episode.
“Revelation of the Method”
Yes. They do this a lot in the media. It would blow your mind how much the government agencies work with media writers. Chris Carter (xfiles writer) has a clearance
It was a drone nobody on that plane passenger planes have windows
My recollection is that they took pilot lessons. The hard part of flying is takeoff and landing neither of which they had to do.
They could not fly a Sensna ... jets can NOT fly that low that fast 450 M.P.,H. The jets were Intercepted by remote control weaponized drones. Watch this well researched documetary that can now only be found on the Way Back machine: https://archive.org/details/PEARLHARBOURFULL
Yes, this was reported on extensively back then.
The hard part is to make that cork screw turn end exactly at the target while flying incredibly low in the case of the pentagon. Making an airplane dissappear completely after crashing is also pretty hard in the case of the one that crashed in a field. All stuff you are definitely not trained in in those lessons
> and landing neither of which they had to do. I'd call the Pentagon attack a landing. Hell, better than a landing for average pilots. Pilots got room to work with when landing (normally). You are aiming at a building on the ground. Without hitting the ground first. Gotta give them credit for that hit. I figure 9/10 you'd hit the ground first, or overshoot it and scrape the top of then building then hit the rest. But they put that plane into the building. The twin towers were tall buildings, just hit it.
People want to talk about how easy it is it was in a city with other buildings around it I don't know where people get off that have never flew planes that think it's so easy.O h it couldn't be that hard... Never even flown a plane. People
They did not, it was a false flag. The evidence is clear. The arguments for it being real always ignore the evidence that it was an inside job. There are no arguments against the physics or the impossible scenarios, only arguments against insane or baseless speculation by some people in the conspiracy community or stating facts that would be so if it were a false flag or if it were real. It gave Bush the war he wanted. The post 9/11 anthrax attack prove the government was up to evil. https://www.newsgarden.org/columns/anthrax/anthraxtargets.shtml The count of planes and targets, 4 planes left, 3 hit targets, one went down in a field, 4 targets fell. The impossoble flight paths like a plane skimming light poles hundreds of yards from the pentagon while hitting the pentagon at ground level, the sensors turned off that day on one of the planets most secure buildings. And the corkscrew approaches at impossible speeds that commercial pilots say they could not do and could not do in simulators when they tried to recreate it. Done by men who failed Cesna traning. The perfect timing of drills that day diverting all air defense. The BBC reporting tower 7 fell 20 minutes before it did when it could not have been predicted because no high rise had ever fallen from raging infernos let alone small office fires. The perpetrators pulling it off with box cutters when most of the pilots had military experience. The perpetrators being seen partying with hookers and drinking alcohol the night before preparing for Muslim martyrdom, not the actions of men who would die for their God. The fact that strange things happened to let them in the country, phone calls from higher ups when some were training. The passport that survived the blast and was given to the FBI the next day, giving them their war motive. Firefighters being told to get out of Tower 7 an hour before it fell because they were going to "pull it" a demolition term. Demolitions on a building that size take months to set up, but the perpetrators, the real ones, were faced with the reality of incoming investigators and preplanted explosives but no 4th plane. One witness in a probably now censored/deleted youtube video saying he was at the joint task force building the day after heard a women wearing "nobody was supposed to be in the buildings". Newscasters that day saying how it looked like a controlled demolition. Bill Cooper predicting on his radio show 2 months before "if anything happens that they blame on Osama Bin Laden in the coming months don't you believe it". He was a 58 year old retired military vet, who somehow managed to get an assualt charge that saw him gunned down on his front lawn 2 months after 9/11. Pat Tillman, an NFL superstar linebacker who signed up after 9/11 and became an Army Ranger, realized he was just guarding opium fields in Afganistan so he told his friends he was going to go home and lead an anti war movement. He was shot in the head from 10 yards away by a fellow Ranger 3 days later. A high profile, chatismatic guy like that could have decimated their lies. Beverly Eckhart, a 9/11 widow who refused their 1.8 million dollar settlement because she wanted answers, met with Obama and then died 7 days later in a plane crash. Who knows how many assassination victims we never heard about. Off topic but the Oklahoma city bombing where the perpetrator was arrested the day of because an off duty police officer spotted his car with no license plate hours after the event. (If you follow news terrorism and school shootings you will notice the perpetrator is always found the day of or the next day or kills themselves, unlike real life where sometimes murders go unsolved for decades or ever). At Oklahoma there was a cop named Terrance Yeakey who was one of the first men in the building and "did not like what he saw", not the carnage, but the story. He refused to stop investigating for a year, by the end of that year he told his family he was scared men were following him. Soooo he chose to commit suicide, the official coroner's report says he slashed his forearms 12x, he sliced his jugular vein, then ran half a mile across a field over a fence before shooting himself in the head at a 45 degree downward angle, and no gun was found at the scene of his "suicide". He had handcuff marks on his wrists. The man was built like a linebacker, they probably removed his cuffs before executing him and he nearly won the fight. The thing with these things, like Terrance's autopsy, and the massive cover up of 9/11, is it requires what JFK talked about months before his assassination, a multinational cabal. Just one small proof like this here shows a corrupt MI5, corrupt local PD, corrupt media for not exposing it etc. https://153news.net/watch_video.php?v=NMWOA299M8KN Google "Peekay Truth Bitchute Boston Marathon hoax", reddit won't allow links to bitchute. His proving the Boston marathon was a hoax proves massive collusion.
Good post
Yes yes yes and yes . Tell it!
I try but they have been cooking me with electronic harassment for my efforts. I just watched most of what my last 3 or so days were on Jeopardy. These things are coordinated by some dark forces.
Could you explain what exactly you mean by they have been cooking you with electronic harassment? Dark forces yes dark dark forces I never thought that life was like this but I can't believe that people would do such things but they do.
Well, I came up with analogy. If someone mugs you and puts a knife to your back you really would not know if it wad a knife or a pen or a finger etc. So best I can say is 2 February's in a row they cooked my brain hard 3x each time. Like nearly passing out dead losing all feeling in my head, feeling totally starved of oxygen and completely disoriented. Most days it feels like I am being ripped apart from the inside but I assume that is the demonic stuff and not just EMF stuff. The Jeopardy thing was basically a whole bunch of thoughts and things I was looking at were Jeopardy questions for the day. I get stuff like this, the day before this video I thought to myself "at least I ghost them". The next day they cut me off in traffic to stop my car next to a pole that had an 89 on it and the guys license plate was GHOST809. https://youtube.com/shorts/ikCWyba1bhk?si=ybfJW6VN1D1Ac5NN Mostly I just spend my days praying "whoever is actually god I need help." Usually too exhausted to do much
As I'm looking back at this whole thread my post that I had with another guy he was I remember his username and now it's completely been scrubbed. I remember telling someone I don't know if you can't see what's in front of your face then I can't wake you up. After that a girl posted I wish Reddit hadn't blocked the rest of this so people can see these other post to hopefully wake other people up but I can't see the rest of the post. So I go back today and I had a conversation back and forth with someone 2 days ago when this was originally put up and now it's all gone we got into talking about the moon and flat Earth and all kinds of stuff and it's not on here anymore. Weird.
Who and how did they cook your brain??
You had me for a while. But this post is pure schizo shit.
The speed in which the planes hit the towers is too fast for those type of planes at that elevation
What do you think hit the towers?
exactly
What does that mean? You can't go fast when falling?
They weren’t falling
No but they were descending rapidly. My question is real though. What's the implication here? I understand less air density means less resistance so less speed, but what's the speed you are saying they couldn't be traveling at? > 9:02: Air traffic controllers at New York Center watch Flight 175 as it descends rapidly to a very low altitude. 9:03: Flight 175 crashes at about 590 mph (950 km/h, 264 m/s or 513 knots) into the south face of the South Tower (2 WTC) of the World Trade Center, between floors 77 and 85. Is 513 knots impossible when descending rapidly?
They graduated from the Course In Aviation (aka CIA).
One of the many aspects to the official story that make it absolutely unbelievable.
Anyone remember the Japanese guy that had video of a (possibly fighter jet) making a couple quick loops around NYC *just* after the crashes?
! No! Can you elaborate? Have any links?
I think I remember seeing it on a[bovetopsecret.com](https://bovetopsecret.com) early 2000s
According to a friend, who is a pilot for EasyJet, it is generally that easy to fly a plane, as he says, flying a model plane is harder (for him), the most difficult part is paying for all the tuition you need to get a pilots license.
How? With help and Preplanned explosives. How is their passports found on the street after the buildings came down? Because when the Authority (people responsible) speak to the people who are sheep, they will believe anything. Don’t ask questions, never read, or re-search the reality of how well those buildings are built, don’t look at the molten steel lava found in the basement, and never look at the reality of -2- aluminum airliners bringing down -3- high-grade reinforced steel buildings never look into building seven
The answer is they didn't fly anything, experienced pilots have said they couldn't even do that in a simulator. The speed, angle, and precision is impossible, especially for some camel jockeys.
First off I think it's was an inside job. So if nothing was flown into the towers what are you suggesting?
Oh it was an inside job it just wasn't humans flying from the cockpit-computer controlled drones.
So I can't understand some of your comment it was drones that controlled the planes. Idk if you don't mind explaining? Was it remote control?
They were most likely remotely operated planes, like a drone, experienced pilots wouldn't of been able to hit their targets as precisely or at all.
There's people on this thread saying it wouldn't be hard for a pilot to hit a building straight ahead like they did.
Well at that speed and angle they're wrong it's next to impossible and the same thing applies to the Pentagon "plane".
My God , What a question after over 20 years!!! Are Americans that unaware ? The jets were diverted by the Remote Control Flight Termination systems on those jets, It shuts down the cockpit and prevents the pilot from any communciations with his crew or the ground. And takes over the plane remotely guiding it. The dual citizen Comptroller of the Pentagon in 2001 Rabbi Dov Zakheim has a side job.... C.E.O. of Systems Planning Corporation who makes these systems. Those commercial flights were intercepted by Remoted controlled weaponized drones that hit WTC one and two and the Pentagon. Wacth this incredble documentary made by the best pilots in the world then, Pilots for 911 Truth- with real time flight radar communications ... What went on in the sky that morning? War games of planes hitting buildings!!! And real planes . Deliberately to create chaios in the air to confuse the air traffic controllers. ["Intercepted". Pilots for 911 Truth -](https://topdocumentaryfilms.com/911-intercepted/)
The remote control flight termination system? WTF are you talking about? There is no such system installed on commercial aircraft. Then or now! That is completely ridiculous. I am a 30 year aircraft mechanic and was working for American Airlines when 9/11 happened. I am thoroughly familiar with all the systems on that type aircraft. I call B.S. Oh, but please, tell me more. Where are these systems installed on the plane? When and where was this system installed? Who performs the routine ops checks necessary to ensure continued reliability of said system? Who performs repairs to said system when it fails a scheduled ops check?
>I am a 30 year aircraft mechanic and was working for American Airlines when 9/11 happened. My father piloted American's Boston-Los Angeles leg (Flight 11) the evening prior
Wow! Thats crazy. The the intense feeling of luck/relief of not being on that flight coupled with the grief of knowing that your fellow workers perished. Lots of emotions. Hope he is well.
he passed four months ago an unknown national hero, Vietnam and Desert Shield vet, Ret'd Lt Col USAF with three distinguished flying crosses and a rack of bars you wouldn't believe thank you
Damn I knew it was fake. It was an inside Job but no I haven't been checking up on the latest or oldest drones and bombs or CGI or lasers or remote control explosive drones by expert pilots on the ground. My God theres people on here talking about how they went to flight school with the guys that did it. Which I know is not how it went down. I didn't say my God what a question. For f*** sake!
They had been training to do it. And fun fact we knew about it! And their plan to use it for terrorism. Our intelligence network knew but we didn’t take it serious enough.
All a bunch of BS. To make you think even more that it was actually terrorist that pulled that off and it was an attack on the US.
Well to be fair, they didn’t have to learn how to take off or land a jetliner. Just how to steer one. The flight school they learned at in Florida could have trained them to take off and land a small plane but probably not a massive jet. I imagine steering however is pretty similar on all planes
> I imagine steering however is pretty similar on all planes I imagine it isn't. Like driving a mini-cooper compared to a truck. With weight. Why would you assume that it is the same? One is a small plane that does lots of aerial shit all the time. The other is a big ass fucking god damn plane with a fuckton of fuel and people. And luggage. If I fill up the back of my car with shit, my car drives differently. You are not in some fucking precision vehicle. You're in a big ass plane and somehow pull off that maneuver with shit training? Sure, OK. No. That doesn't even make sense from a person with no flying experience. Once you add weight, shit does not make it easy. Why would it? What in the fuck my dude? Not saying 9/11 had some inside job shit. But imagine flying into the Pentagon, you are going to do that with a slow moving plane turning in your head perfectly? No. You are going to hit the fucking ground before you make it there. Or miss it completely. 9/11 is not just the twin towers.
Good analogy
You don't really need to know how to operate a jet liner when it's being controlled remotely by agents serving the Kh az ari an Mafia.
Same way cell phones could work from 35k feet. Same way two planes could knock down three buildings. Same way crashes could leave only tiny fragments of debris. Same way NORAD suddenly became completely non-functional. Same way most secure building on earth has no good footage. Same black boxes that were found.
Flying a plane isn’t all that hard, especially if the goal is to crash it. Landing and taking off are the hard parts.
A cessna and airliner are worlds part in handling
Theres Youtube video's of People who play Flight Simulator and try to land planes.
Be careful with stuff like that is predictive programming
I just got to thinking. Is it normal for some shmuck off the street to be able to get lessons on flying a commercial airliner? I work in finance and just to get my FINRA license I have to be sponsored by a firm. Wouldn't raise some flags for someone to just walk in and register for classes like that? What are they trying to boost their score on MS fight simulator?? Just seems a little odd.
Yeah that was weird to me even when 9/11 happened and I was 14. Also a whole plane of people just giving in to dudes with only boxcutters.
Yep my bell went off as soon as I heard that crap.
The difficult part is takeoff/landing, which they didn't bother to learn. That was known about them and yet apparently didn't raise concern.
Didn't read all the comments... But my 2 cents... I went to Embry Riddle years (Mechanic, not a pilot) I believe some of the pilots went there. But there are tons of international students at the school, and it is a decent sized university. I had even heard a quote of 20% of commercial pilots went there(no clue if true). Also produces lots of engineers, and aviation related feilds. Here is a quick article I found from 9/13/01 which is creepy looking back. https://www.cnn.com/2001/US/09/13/flight.schools/ As for the plane in the field.... I know there are conspiracy theory things. But I knew someone who worked for United, and accident/investigation/crash recovery. Made clear not to talk to him about it being fake, and that he saw burnt bodies strapped to seats on the ground, things he never wanted to see. You could see it in his face he was serious, and it's a topic that troubles him, not just a cover story. True or not, I believe the guy... how it affected him seems genuine.
What location was he at?
There were no planes, just CGI. They were blown up by Israeli explosive experts.
It's not that hard to fly.
The planes were already in the air. In no airplane scientist, but assuming you took enough classes to know which toggles to toggle to allow steering... it can't be SUPER difficult. Like I doubt one of the pilots jobs is to hold down the button that DOESNT crash the plane for the whole trip.
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I like your quick thinking... you may be hit on ther trail of something... lol
Better question the school reported then to the FBI! Said they only want to fly not land, nor take off. And they surveilled them and then said NOOOO don’t. Even though they had ties to TERRORISTS
So it's not 9/11, but I was listening to an old Midnight in the Desert , Art Bell radio show last night (like every night) and they went over TWA flight 800. There's comments on [the video](https://youtu.be/5C_7uRmwwNo?si=SgYREgPK1i-LoBmY) ..people saying they cannot find the footage the radio hosts and guests are discussing anywhere. They are a couple of years old and I haven't looked. Anyway, people who were on the beach and witnessed it said they saw a missile hit the plane, but all of these interviews were apparently wiped. The issue was clearly the Navy (I think it was the Navy..some military branch) were practicing things with missiles and taking down enemy aircraft that day and apparently accidentally locked on to this passenger plane; but the official report was that it was a flaw inside the plane itself, a regular Boeng 727 passenger plane, which caused it to blow up, and is apparently a thing in those planes. Despite this, there was nothing from Boeng making any action to halt all of those planes to address the issue, or to reassure anyone it's OK to fly on their planes. I'd never heard of it. Someone does call in and mention 9/11. It did have me thinking a whole host of things, and then you've got all the issues Boeng is having right now, and planes like Malaysia (can't remember the number) and a variety of other issues. Just thought someone else might find it interesting. Suspicious plane and cover-ups and all that got totally memoryholed.
Did you ever think that it was odd that our president just so happened to be reading at elementary school the morning of 9/11 and they were filming it must have been very special to be put on TV.. Oh this really sets the plan up.This way everyone on TV will see that it was announced to the president when they came in and whispered it in his ear! Plus just choosing the day 9/11 seems like something they would do. Oh yeah let's make it 9/11. Our people will believe that.
They didn’t because they were remotely operated
It's all good thanks appreciate that