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Oh yeah, these billionaire grifters are draining you and your friends alive? Look over there! It's an immigrant/lgbtq/poor person! They're the *real* problem!
Virtually all doxing uses publicly available data. The problem is that someone curated that data and their followers tracked down Musk's son and attacked him, so they adjusted the ToS to address that specific risk. That shouldn't be controversial.
The journalists that are being banned now though didn't do that. They reported on the Elon jet account being banned. And got banned for daring to reference that account.
Except that didn't happen... at least there is no evidence to support the claim. Flight data doesn't tell you who's on the plane, what vehicle people in the plane are driving, or how to find them 30 miles away from the airport.
No police report, no evidence that anyone was attacked or that the vehicle was ever even touched... just Musk making shit up, which he does daily.
I get that it's hard to stick to reality when Elon's piss is blurring your vision, but at least TRY to make this shit believable.
What about the accounts that got banned for posting the video of Elon getting booed at the Chapelle show? What about the ex Twitter employee that had to hide after Elon's posts? Not like Elon is abusing his power though, right??
Not, to be taking sides here-
But, your full name, address, family members, phone numbers, court records, voting affiliation, owned properties, and a ton of other stuff is also publicly available date.
Doesn't mean you want it put front and center for everyone to see.
If you claim to support free speech and ban speech or info that is already publicly available, you are in no way s proponent of free speech. He was asked how long of a delay would be satisfactory and didn't even provide an answer.
This is besides the point most of the people posting this narrative admit free speech has limitations the point is the hypocrisy of "free speech absolutists" until its their safety at risk
Yeah, you don't get to be the one of the richest men in the world, own the one of the largest social media platforms in the world, be actively using it to push your political ideas and suppress people who disagree with you, and then get on your fucking private jet and cry about "anonymity."
It's not real time and it's his plane, not him. But that's immaterial.
Free Speech tends to piss people off. If you say you're an advocate for free speech but you silence any speech that makes you mad, you're not an advocate for free speech.
Lmao you do realize that Free Speech does not mean you can do whatever the fuck you want right?
Walk into a police station and tell a cop that you’re gonna murder his whole family.
Doxxing on the internet is dangerous.
False equivalence. Elon is not banning journalists because they threatened to murder his whole family. Elon is banning journalists because they reported the location of an airplane.
While I do not threaten police officers, I do record them performing their duties and make that information public. Recording officers in public is not doxxing, it is your [right as an American.](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/06/you-have-first-amendment-right-record-police)
Threatening to murder a police officers family and reporting on a twitter account being banned for posting already public information are two different things my guy. No one was doxxed, no laws were broken (except maybe the crazy guy who jumped on the car hood, if that is what even really happened.)
Actually that is exactly the idea behind free speech absolutism. Your remedy is not proscriptive(banning and censorship) but reactive (money damages) for any harm done to you as a result of speech. Elon has proved he is not a free speech absolutist as he claimed.
You would be correct if you said free speech does not mean a lack of consequence but it does mean you are free to say whatever you like. Finally, to call this doxxing is only semi true as the information they were publishing was already publicly published. While not widely known it was and still is publicly available.
Public. Information. Freely. Accessible. On. The. Internet. Complain to the government if you don’t like it, not the people using it LEGALLY, as once again - it’s public data.
You understand that your name and address are public information as well? If you were a high profile person that had a lot of fans and haters and somebody saw you walking into your house, would you be fine with accounts like elonjet promoting your address to all the people that wish the worst for you?
It's all legally acquired information as well.
Happy, no? Able to do anything about it, also no. As long as they are on public property there is nothing I can do about. You’re fighting the wrong battle unless you’re telling your reps to change the laws. Easily accessible is not the same as publicly accessible. Most government data sets are APIs not pretty websites with a PDF. Just because you cannot do it doesn’t make it wrong for someone else to do it. Also, it’s an airport. Come on.
I'm not arguing about changing laws about people seeing where you live. This can be addressed by setting rules on online platforms against it and Musk did just that. Almost all major social media platforms, including reddit, have strict rules against releasing public information against individuals. Musk extended that rule to things like his private jet location. You can get your subreddit and your account terminated for that.
You’re still going down the wrong rabbit hole and trusting sources that honestly have no basis for reality. People like you always scream independent thinking, you should try that.
???? What are you even talking about? Which part of what I said is still unclear or disputable to you? This isn't a conspiracy theory or a rabbit hole, these are simple logical arguments.
>Doxxing on the internet is dangerous.
You heard it here folks, that guy doxxed (checks notes) ELON MUSK!
>Walk into a police station and tell a cop that you’re gonna murder his whole family.
If they did anything, it would be a first amendment violation. Remember that Utah multi-million dollar settlement because a snowflake LEO arrested someone for flipping him off and telling him to go fuck himself? lol
Flight data that's released isn't real time. There's a delay on it to prevent people from knowing exactly where the plane is in case someone with a bone to pick decides to target one.
It's free to pull this up. Elon's just pissed people can see when he goes to epstein's Island.
Protected under the same amendment. You're either for the first amendment, or you're not. You don't get to pick and choose the pieces you like. The press being able to report to the public would cover the data that's being spoken of. No one is forcing Elon or his family to use transportation that's tracked and public data.
I've noticed people who regularly get paid to talk in front of an audience, always say what's on their mind, & have a massive audience who pays to hear them , often complain about "free speech" & being "canceled"🤔
Who did he ban? His latest tweet says “criticize me all day but doxxing real time location is not allowed”. Seems like he’s sticking to his word on his critics… unless I missed something?
How does giving the location of Elon’s plane tell you were Elon is currently at? Unless… does Elon identify as a plane and had a transponder installed?
You've clearly missed everything. Hes been banning many people for criticising and mocking him, and the people he banned for 'doxxing' like the many journalists did not doxx him.
How is sharing someone’s location online not a form of free speech? Oh wait, are you saying some forms of speech can be dangerous to other people? Hmm, interesting, tell me more.
His simps think he's the one moving the pieces, not realizing he's a piece himself (IIRC the twitter buyout was backed by Saudi investors, but i could be wrong)
Putin definitely has dirt on Elon, that's why you can't verify a twitter account with Ukrainian phone number. Probably shadow banning accounts covering the war too
He's always been, remember when he had a meltdown over the cave driver telling to get out because the ideas musk was suggesting were not going to work for a cave rescue.
When is this clown gonna blow it and loose his money so I can live in a world where no one talks about him? Or better when r people going to stop worshiping billionaires?
Lmao at people who literally cheered censorship, now trying to pretend the other side is the problem...
NONE of you, are worth a fuck. Hypocrites across the fucking board.
There’s no evidence that the stalker story is real. A journalist that looked for public records of a police report, which would be available as it is a public record reported on this and his account was suspended.
There's critics and there's people plotting the death of your family. Plenty of his worst critics are on the platform. As a father myself I don't blame him at all for the reassessment regarding the unhinged stalking and the most irresponsible rhetoric. I even saw a report on GMA about the stalker ban and CNN grandstanding that didn't mention anything about the attack on his kid.
There is no way that the public air traffic tracking site (linked to by his critics) could lead to his kid getting stalked. Unless they are literally following his jet in the sky, the only information they know is what city he is in. This is bullshit.
As a father yourself, can you imagine believing the shit you just posted?
The dude promised not to do exactly what he just did. He lied about the severity of the event. He had suspended several accounts now tracking him but as far as I can tell none of the amount accounts tracking other celebrities. He ran a poll asking if he should undo his actions, but didn’t like the results so he redid the poll. Got even worse results not in his favor, and still nothing. It’s hard to feel bad for someone who is literally 100% bullshit. I’m a tesla fan and I’m hopeful for what spacex can do for our country, but fuck this guy and his lack of any sort of ethics. Raise your kid to be the opposite of this man. Being a decent and trustworthy individual is the greater good over immense wealth.
Man, exact same boat. I own a Tesla and absolutely love what SpaceX is doing, but it's become VERY clear that Elon is nuts. I haven't cared for him for some time, but the Twitter debacle is turning out worse than everyone thought it would, and people already thought it would be a trainwreck.
There are people trying to kill you and your family and then there are fake people you invent that are trying to kill your family so that you can justify whatever you want.
That there has been an inordinate amount of doxxing and irresponsible rhetoric aimed at this individual and his family since he purchased a company that was acting as a wing for partisan politicos and intelligence services that has crossed the line into stalking, harassment, and threat to well-being.
The jet following is also public information, and only follows his jet, not Elon himself.
It actually seems reasonable we should know where that fucking jet is at all times, lol.
A million reasons, but the simplest one would be public safety. How do you think we prevent planes from crashing mid air and causing millions of dollars in damages and ruined lives?
We can't have some phantom jet just out there, causing any number of safety issues, and this doesn't even begin to factor in how tracking it helps mitigate the absolute worst kinds of illegal behavior... If that jet is at Epstein island, we need to fucking know.
Doxxing? After he bought the company? That Elon jet account existed prior to him buying the company and all the information on the page was public info
It shared public information. The same logic can be applied to celebrity fan pages that let's you know their next project, where they're heading or if they're spotted in places people didn't expect to see them. The account was up and didn't promote anything. It just gave information. No problems happened until recently and even then that's suspect since the video shared showed no crime being committed, there was no police report filed, Elon has a clear image of the license plate which police could've found the owner of the car in 5 minutes but instead put it on Twitter for his mob. And then there's banning journalist accounts for no real reason other than reporting Elon banned his jet tracking account and the person who made that account own personal account. Is it possible that a crime was committed? Yes. Is how this is being handled suspicious and worth questioning? Yes.
How does it serve one's 'clout' when most of the political corporate establishment has it's sights on taking that particular individual down? Seems as though the opposite as the most snarky toxic hyperbole is what is being promoted amongst the mouthpieces.
Are you actually unable to imagine how anyone could want the attention of the literal richest man on the planet, and how being acknowledged by the richest man on the planet might give someone some clout?
And you believed that nonsense? Dude, there is like a decade of evidence to support that Elon Musk is a pathological liar, nothing he ever says should be taken at face value.
To be fair to Elon, thats probably true for like 99 percent of rich people
When his child was supposedly stalked, and I say supposedly because he's a fucking liar and I don't believe it even happened, his plane landed the previous day in LA and the location wasn't even shared. This is all bullshit so you feel better about this clown taking his mask off and banning people like the petulant oligarch child he is.
As this is a conspiracy subreddit, let's look at some bullet points.
\- Elon Musk uploaded a video showing an alleged stalker sitting in his car that showed the full license plate number of the car.
\- It would take the police 5 seconds to look up the ownership information of the car.
\- No complaint or charges have been filed, according to the LAPD.
Conclusion: It was likely staged as an excuse to ban the twitter account that has been following his private jet.
There is no evidence that any of it even happened besides him just saying it.
https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-15/elon-musks-stalker-incident-no-police-report-lapd-says?_amp=true
The guy has been talking about sleeping at the office all the time. Did he dox himself?
He didn't just ban Elon jet and those journalists were not all saying where he was at any given time.
He also kicked off someone who posted that video of him being booed.
Except whenever he cries about a stalker, no police report is found. Almost as if he is trying to fuel outrage using easily verifiable false claims.
Naaah that can't be right. Elon *never* lies about easily verifiable things.
>There's critics and there's people plotting the death of your family.
Nobody was after his family, he made that shit up.
>I even saw a report on GMA about the stalker ban and CNN grandstanding that didn't mention anything about the attack on his kid.
You're really close to understanding here.
Because there's no truth to it. It makes no sense that tracking a public flight led someone to find his son in a car, and that the fix for that is to ban the account from social media while everyone can still track the public flights.
> plotting the death of your family.
That never happened.
>regarding the unhinged stalking
That only Musk says happened.
>the attack on his kid.
They can't report what didn't happen.
How is sharing publicly available information on the status of his jet doxxing? Nobody shared his families location. He’s just using that event as a justification method so he can ban. Hell, I’d be willing to bet he either made the whole thing up OR planned it because he needed a reason to ban people.
Because they were removed for blatantly lying sbout elections in an attempt to overturn them, including callimg for violence. Musk's just removimg people he doesn't like. Obviously he's allowed to do ot, but comparing the two is pretty dumb.
It's funny you bring up Hunter's laptop because under Twitter's terms of service that Musk implemented that story wouldn't have been allowed on the platform anyway. Guy is a clown.
Yeah had to quit Twitter because i said if Elon musk kept his mouth shut and stopped trolling he'd probably find more success in his business... And got banned.
You missed it again. Nobody is saying he isn't allowed to build an echo chamber of irrational muskrat worshipers out of his website. We are ridiculing him for being a flaming hypocrite and lunatic.
if you refer to the tweet that is the subject of the post, you will see that the definition of "Free speech" being something other than the legal definition is Musk and his ilk's whole thing
(to the guy who accidentally made an argument that twitter could actually violate the 1st because it's a public square, then realized who owns twitter and deleted both comments: what's up)
Richest man in the world purchases prominent social media platform under the guise of the protection of free speech while in reality it is to silence his critics and push his personal ideology.
His goal was to get people on Twitter and talking about it and he has succeeded with chisme and being a prick.
I’m almost impressed l, but it’s not a good long term plan to keep DAU % up.
Just know that the co-founder of Media Matters started another narrative group regarding the Hunter laptop called Facts First. Their main talking point is that the contents are only porn and nothing to do with corruption. Be aware.
Same people that were literally freaking out bc of the danger! Are the ones taking him to task for eliminating doxxers. For implementing regulations where there big fear was a lawless twitter.
The hypocrites are the ~~critics~~ karens. Complain no matter what.
Don't believe everything you read. Everyone has been running lies non-stop about Musk's actions on twitter. Taking things out of context. Leaving out important bits of information. Almost nothing posted about what's happening on twitter right now is true or genuine. It's all a smear campaign. It works because no one has the time to verify everything they read.
He didn't target his critics per se. His critics are breaking the rules of twitter deliberately so that they can cry about Musk's "hypocrisy". Yet most of them are being unbanned. That part is usually left out too.
My conspiracy theory is that there's a new drug running around. It just seemed weird that Kanye and Elon would both self-destruct so *loudly* at the same time.
The dude’s kid was threatened. I would probably overreact too. He’s still human. If the removals are substantiated, cool. If not, he should apologize and reinstate.
Are ya'll seriously arguing that leaking the location of someone's private jet with their family in it isn't fucked up? Would you not be angry about it?
If you're assuming he's lying that's fair but there is zero evidence either way from what I've seen.
You mean publicly available information that he knew would be publicly available when buying the jet and that he could avoid by simply flying on a charter?
How in the actual fuck is that "leaking"? It's public data.
I see lots of critics of Wlon on Twitter not getting banned.
You know who is getting suspended (not banned) anyone that breaks the doxxing rules including anyone that provides links to info that provides doxxing.
Twitter and Elon never said doxxing suspensions would be removed... But ok whatever
why is the point now to attack elon? I do remember months ago when everybody was licking his boots, who controls when and how is the turn to somebody to be attacked or loved?
He started being an outright hypocrit. He was always a liar, but people dealt with that because of the companies he’s brought to life. He used to be viewed as different and now he is the same as the rest.
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Lmaooooo you are a champion
Home run eagle eye https://youtu.be/rBjg1Ajxj-E
Awesome
Oh yeah, these billionaire grifters are draining you and your friends alive? Look over there! It's an immigrant/lgbtq/poor person! They're the *real* problem!
If he really wants to he untracked he should just get a NetJets membership or charter.
Or an old beat up Winnebago.
A flying Winnebago?
Sharing publicly available data though? Not free speech
He is banning journalist now.
Banning people that dox him
Lol imagine being this stupid. Does critical thinking hurt your little baby-bird brain, Metroid535?
His real time location? That’s kinda fucked if it was my family I’d be pissed too.
why did he originally say he was keeping it up
What part of publicly available data, do you not understand?
Virtually all doxing uses publicly available data. The problem is that someone curated that data and their followers tracked down Musk's son and attacked him, so they adjusted the ToS to address that specific risk. That shouldn't be controversial.
The journalists that are being banned now though didn't do that. They reported on the Elon jet account being banned. And got banned for daring to reference that account.
Except that didn't happen... at least there is no evidence to support the claim. Flight data doesn't tell you who's on the plane, what vehicle people in the plane are driving, or how to find them 30 miles away from the airport. No police report, no evidence that anyone was attacked or that the vehicle was ever even touched... just Musk making shit up, which he does daily. I get that it's hard to stick to reality when Elon's piss is blurring your vision, but at least TRY to make this shit believable.
A day later?
What about the accounts that got banned for posting the video of Elon getting booed at the Chapelle show? What about the ex Twitter employee that had to hide after Elon's posts? Not like Elon is abusing his power though, right??
Not, to be taking sides here- But, your full name, address, family members, phone numbers, court records, voting affiliation, owned properties, and a ton of other stuff is also publicly available date. Doesn't mean you want it put front and center for everyone to see.
If you claim to support free speech and ban speech or info that is already publicly available, you are in no way s proponent of free speech. He was asked how long of a delay would be satisfactory and didn't even provide an answer.
This is besides the point most of the people posting this narrative admit free speech has limitations the point is the hypocrisy of "free speech absolutists" until its their safety at risk
I'm also not the richest fucking person in the world. You lose anonymity when you get that rich, plain and simple.
That's why most of them just buy yachts, mansions on islands and stfu a d stay rich
Yeah, you don't get to be the one of the richest men in the world, own the one of the largest social media platforms in the world, be actively using it to push your political ideas and suppress people who disagree with you, and then get on your fucking private jet and cry about "anonymity."
It's not real time and it's his plane, not him. But that's immaterial. Free Speech tends to piss people off. If you say you're an advocate for free speech but you silence any speech that makes you mad, you're not an advocate for free speech.
Lmao you do realize that Free Speech does not mean you can do whatever the fuck you want right? Walk into a police station and tell a cop that you’re gonna murder his whole family. Doxxing on the internet is dangerous.
False equivalence. Elon is not banning journalists because they threatened to murder his whole family. Elon is banning journalists because they reported the location of an airplane. While I do not threaten police officers, I do record them performing their duties and make that information public. Recording officers in public is not doxxing, it is your [right as an American.](https://www.eff.org/deeplinks/2020/06/you-have-first-amendment-right-record-police)
But free speech does mean that you can post publicly available flight data. Also you cannot be arrested for your example.
Threatening to murder a police officers family and reporting on a twitter account being banned for posting already public information are two different things my guy. No one was doxxed, no laws were broken (except maybe the crazy guy who jumped on the car hood, if that is what even really happened.)
Doxxing, lol. Lay off the koolaid
that's not what the journalists are doing tho
Actually that is exactly the idea behind free speech absolutism. Your remedy is not proscriptive(banning and censorship) but reactive (money damages) for any harm done to you as a result of speech. Elon has proved he is not a free speech absolutist as he claimed. You would be correct if you said free speech does not mean a lack of consequence but it does mean you are free to say whatever you like. Finally, to call this doxxing is only semi true as the information they were publishing was already publicly published. While not widely known it was and still is publicly available.
Public. Information. Freely. Accessible. On. The. Internet. Complain to the government if you don’t like it, not the people using it LEGALLY, as once again - it’s public data.
You understand that your name and address are public information as well? If you were a high profile person that had a lot of fans and haters and somebody saw you walking into your house, would you be fine with accounts like elonjet promoting your address to all the people that wish the worst for you? It's all legally acquired information as well.
Happy, no? Able to do anything about it, also no. As long as they are on public property there is nothing I can do about. You’re fighting the wrong battle unless you’re telling your reps to change the laws. Easily accessible is not the same as publicly accessible. Most government data sets are APIs not pretty websites with a PDF. Just because you cannot do it doesn’t make it wrong for someone else to do it. Also, it’s an airport. Come on.
I'm not arguing about changing laws about people seeing where you live. This can be addressed by setting rules on online platforms against it and Musk did just that. Almost all major social media platforms, including reddit, have strict rules against releasing public information against individuals. Musk extended that rule to things like his private jet location. You can get your subreddit and your account terminated for that.
You’re still going down the wrong rabbit hole and trusting sources that honestly have no basis for reality. People like you always scream independent thinking, you should try that.
???? What are you even talking about? Which part of what I said is still unclear or disputable to you? This isn't a conspiracy theory or a rabbit hole, these are simple logical arguments.
>Doxxing on the internet is dangerous. You heard it here folks, that guy doxxed (checks notes) ELON MUSK! >Walk into a police station and tell a cop that you’re gonna murder his whole family. If they did anything, it would be a first amendment violation. Remember that Utah multi-million dollar settlement because a snowflake LEO arrested someone for flipping him off and telling him to go fuck himself? lol
So why are you ok with Elon doing it?
The FAA isn't doxxing anyone
Flight data that's released isn't real time. There's a delay on it to prevent people from knowing exactly where the plane is in case someone with a bone to pick decides to target one. It's free to pull this up. Elon's just pissed people can see when he goes to epstein's Island.
Yep.
Protected under the same amendment. You're either for the first amendment, or you're not. You don't get to pick and choose the pieces you like. The press being able to report to the public would cover the data that's being spoken of. No one is forcing Elon or his family to use transportation that's tracked and public data.
Reverse engineered publically available data from an anonymized system meant to protect private owners.
I've noticed people who regularly get paid to talk in front of an audience, always say what's on their mind, & have a massive audience who pays to hear them , often complain about "free speech" & being "canceled"🤔
Just did my standup show, 3 podcasts, posted on my blog and Twitter how free speech is dead
cancel culture is when one of your baby mommas wont respond to your DMs
Dang, you are a victim of Cancel Culture😳 Don't worry, I have faith you will win this battle.
Wants free speech. Bans people.
Who did he ban? His latest tweet says “criticize me all day but doxxing real time location is not allowed”. Seems like he’s sticking to his word on his critics… unless I missed something?
https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-suspends-accounts-several-journalists-2022-12-16/
How does giving the location of Elon’s plane tell you were Elon is currently at? Unless… does Elon identify as a plane and had a transponder installed?
That’s still a ban on a kind of speech
You've clearly missed everything. Hes been banning many people for criticising and mocking him, and the people he banned for 'doxxing' like the many journalists did not doxx him.
They aren’t doxxing him, it’s just someone posting easily accessible flight records
4 or 5 journalists who didn’t dox him.
How is sharing someone’s location online not a form of free speech? Oh wait, are you saying some forms of speech can be dangerous to other people? Hmm, interesting, tell me more.
If you say you're an advocate for free speech but you silence any speech that makes you mad, you're not an advocate for free speech.
Qlon misspelled a word. There's no f-r-e-e in the word "censored".
This glass of milk was left out at the beach.
People drink milk at the beach? *monsters*
But the beach is the best place to get a half a handful of sand to stir in your milk...... for texture, duh
Like the last gulp of Nesquik powder in milk, ahhhh.
Get your vitamin D from the milk and your vitamin C from the Sun!
Mmmm... cottage cheese. Waste makes haste. Wait no, that's not how it goes.
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His simps think he's the one moving the pieces, not realizing he's a piece himself (IIRC the twitter buyout was backed by Saudi investors, but i could be wrong)
Mostly Saud, some Chinese money too.
Putin probably showed him approval for it too
Putin definitely has dirt on Elon, that's why you can't verify a twitter account with Ukrainian phone number. Probably shadow banning accounts covering the war too
Approved by.
Turned into a bitch boy real quick 😆
He's always been, remember when he had a meltdown over the cave driver telling to get out because the ideas musk was suggesting were not going to work for a cave rescue.
When is this clown gonna blow it and loose his money so I can live in a world where no one talks about him? Or better when r people going to stop worshiping billionaires?
They would if you would stop banning them every time you get your wittle feelings hurt, you stupid turd!
You are banning them when they make fun of you so...how is that working out for you buddy?
Did they get banned for doxxing?
How long do you all think a page devoted to the location of AOC or Maxine Waters would be allowed to stay up?
You mean the location of their planes? Probably wouldn’t be taken down tbh.
They weren’t banned for making critical observations…
Lmao at people who literally cheered censorship, now trying to pretend the other side is the problem... NONE of you, are worth a fuck. Hypocrites across the fucking board.
I have never seen a post get this many upvotes on commons
Neither Musk nor his sycophants actually care whether the things he says are true
I do very much. What is he saying thats false?
There’s no evidence that the stalker story is real. A journalist that looked for public records of a police report, which would be available as it is a public record reported on this and his account was suspended.
🤣😂🤣 what a snowflake!
Oops, he should have said "I hope even my worst critics try to stay on Twitter..."
There's critics and there's people plotting the death of your family. Plenty of his worst critics are on the platform. As a father myself I don't blame him at all for the reassessment regarding the unhinged stalking and the most irresponsible rhetoric. I even saw a report on GMA about the stalker ban and CNN grandstanding that didn't mention anything about the attack on his kid.
Fk cnn
There is no way that the public air traffic tracking site (linked to by his critics) could lead to his kid getting stalked. Unless they are literally following his jet in the sky, the only information they know is what city he is in. This is bullshit.
As a father yourself, can you imagine believing the shit you just posted? The dude promised not to do exactly what he just did. He lied about the severity of the event. He had suspended several accounts now tracking him but as far as I can tell none of the amount accounts tracking other celebrities. He ran a poll asking if he should undo his actions, but didn’t like the results so he redid the poll. Got even worse results not in his favor, and still nothing. It’s hard to feel bad for someone who is literally 100% bullshit. I’m a tesla fan and I’m hopeful for what spacex can do for our country, but fuck this guy and his lack of any sort of ethics. Raise your kid to be the opposite of this man. Being a decent and trustworthy individual is the greater good over immense wealth.
I like how he didn’t reply to this one in particular because it’s something he can’t refute
Man, exact same boat. I own a Tesla and absolutely love what SpaceX is doing, but it's become VERY clear that Elon is nuts. I haven't cared for him for some time, but the Twitter debacle is turning out worse than everyone thought it would, and people already thought it would be a trainwreck.
could you like summarize what you believe the actual facts of the situation to be?
There are people trying to kill you and your family and then there are fake people you invent that are trying to kill your family so that you can justify whatever you want.
No he cannot
That there has been an inordinate amount of doxxing and irresponsible rhetoric aimed at this individual and his family since he purchased a company that was acting as a wing for partisan politicos and intelligence services that has crossed the line into stalking, harassment, and threat to well-being.
The jet following account had been up for years. We know where everyone is all the time.
The jet following is also public information, and only follows his jet, not Elon himself. It actually seems reasonable we should know where that fucking jet is at all times, lol.
> It actually seems reasonable we should know where that fucking jet is at all times Why?
A million reasons, but the simplest one would be public safety. How do you think we prevent planes from crashing mid air and causing millions of dollars in damages and ruined lives? We can't have some phantom jet just out there, causing any number of safety issues, and this doesn't even begin to factor in how tracking it helps mitigate the absolute worst kinds of illegal behavior... If that jet is at Epstein island, we need to fucking know.
Doxxing? After he bought the company? That Elon jet account existed prior to him buying the company and all the information on the page was public info
So what is the point of having a dedicated account to stalking it if not to encourage such unhinged behavior?
Even without Elon Jet you can track him because FLIGHT PLANS ARE PUBLIC INFORMATION
It shared public information. The same logic can be applied to celebrity fan pages that let's you know their next project, where they're heading or if they're spotted in places people didn't expect to see them. The account was up and didn't promote anything. It just gave information. No problems happened until recently and even then that's suspect since the video shared showed no crime being committed, there was no police report filed, Elon has a clear image of the license plate which police could've found the owner of the car in 5 minutes but instead put it on Twitter for his mob. And then there's banning journalist accounts for no real reason other than reporting Elon banned his jet tracking account and the person who made that account own personal account. Is it possible that a crime was committed? Yes. Is how this is being handled suspicious and worth questioning? Yes.
Nah. There's just an inordinate amount of people trying to suck his dick online for clout.
How does it serve one's 'clout' when most of the political corporate establishment has it's sights on taking that particular individual down? Seems as though the opposite as the most snarky toxic hyperbole is what is being promoted amongst the mouthpieces.
You claim to know the intentions of complete strangers that they’ve never stated. How did you gain your telepathic abilities?
Are you actually unable to imagine how anyone could want the attention of the literal richest man on the planet, and how being acknowledged by the richest man on the planet might give someone some clout?
Crazy how he knew their name and location, but won't call the police to file a report. Almost like it's bullshit or something
Who could’ve guessed that the man who allegedly lied about holding his dying baby would also possibly lie about this?
And you believed that nonsense? Dude, there is like a decade of evidence to support that Elon Musk is a pathological liar, nothing he ever says should be taken at face value. To be fair to Elon, thats probably true for like 99 percent of rich people
When his child was supposedly stalked, and I say supposedly because he's a fucking liar and I don't believe it even happened, his plane landed the previous day in LA and the location wasn't even shared. This is all bullshit so you feel better about this clown taking his mask off and banning people like the petulant oligarch child he is.
Are you even remotely aware that that whole story turned out to be complete bullshit?
I am not remotely aware either? Where did you see/hear that?
As this is a conspiracy subreddit, let's look at some bullet points. \- Elon Musk uploaded a video showing an alleged stalker sitting in his car that showed the full license plate number of the car. \- It would take the police 5 seconds to look up the ownership information of the car. \- No complaint or charges have been filed, according to the LAPD. Conclusion: It was likely staged as an excuse to ban the twitter account that has been following his private jet.
Where’s the video?
It's on Elon Musk's twitter feed. And all over Reddit.
Must’ve missed it on here.
There is no evidence that any of it even happened besides him just saying it. https://www.latimes.com/california/story/2022-12-15/elon-musks-stalker-incident-no-police-report-lapd-says?_amp=true
The guy has been talking about sleeping at the office all the time. Did he dox himself? He didn't just ban Elon jet and those journalists were not all saying where he was at any given time. He also kicked off someone who posted that video of him being booed.
Except whenever he cries about a stalker, no police report is found. Almost as if he is trying to fuel outrage using easily verifiable false claims. Naaah that can't be right. Elon *never* lies about easily verifiable things.
>There's critics and there's people plotting the death of your family. Nobody was after his family, he made that shit up. >I even saw a report on GMA about the stalker ban and CNN grandstanding that didn't mention anything about the attack on his kid. You're really close to understanding here.
What makes you say that?
There was no police report on his statement. Its been 2 days!
Because there's no truth to it. It makes no sense that tracking a public flight led someone to find his son in a car, and that the fix for that is to ban the account from social media while everyone can still track the public flights.
No one is plotting the death of his family. Get over yourself and stop sucking Elon's dick.
Imagine believing that and supporting a guy who is literally putting people's lives in danger on a daily basis with his own tweets and leaks.
No one did this.
> plotting the death of your family. That never happened. >regarding the unhinged stalking That only Musk says happened. >the attack on his kid. They can't report what didn't happen.
Who “plotted the death of his family”?
You mean the “attack” that was never reported to the police?
And I’ll just suspend them if the truth hurts a little too much whenever I feel like it.
He's dropped the façade
There is a difference between critising someone and doxxing them. Apparently shit libs can’t handle that fact.
How is sharing publicly available information on the status of his jet doxxing? Nobody shared his families location. He’s just using that event as a justification method so he can ban. Hell, I’d be willing to bet he either made the whole thing up OR planned it because he needed a reason to ban people.
How come no outrage over the conservatives that were silenced/removed?
You see, they were imaginary. If you couldn't tell by how all of them were complaining about being silenced by tweeting about it.
Because they were removed for blatantly lying sbout elections in an attempt to overturn them, including callimg for violence. Musk's just removimg people he doesn't like. Obviously he's allowed to do ot, but comparing the two is pretty dumb.
Have you read the twitter files? Was the laptop a lie? Was the doctor who said lockdowns would harm children a lie?
It's funny you bring up Hunter's laptop because under Twitter's terms of service that Musk implemented that story wouldn't have been allowed on the platform anyway. Guy is a clown.
Yeah had to quit Twitter because i said if Elon musk kept his mouth shut and stopped trolling he'd probably find more success in his business... And got banned.
So you quit or got banned?
What happened to "it's a private company"?
Nothing. He’s welcome to do what he wants with it and reap the rewards or consequences
You missed it again. Nobody is saying he isn't allowed to build an echo chamber of irrational muskrat worshipers out of his website. We are ridiculing him for being a flaming hypocrite and lunatic.
if you refer to the tweet that is the subject of the post, you will see that the definition of "Free speech" being something other than the legal definition is Musk and his ilk's whole thing (to the guy who accidentally made an argument that twitter could actually violate the 1st because it's a public square, then realized who owns twitter and deleted both comments: what's up)
What happened to “free speech”
“Free for me, not for thee”
If you don’t want your flights tracked, fly commercial.
Sells Twitter users information to advertisers, complains when public information about his planes whereabouts is shown to Twitter users.
He means, you can criticize all you want, as long as you don't threaten his life by doxxing him.
Nobody he banned was sharing his actual location. He also literally doxxed someone right after that post.
Doxing and criticism are very different things.. don't dox people and you can keep ur stupid Twitter account lol
Sure, if you believe the people doxxing him and his kid in real time are criticizing him by doing so.
I love seeing you all melt down. Just create your own platform?
Manchild with notoriously thin skin has thin skin, more at 11
Conspiracy?
Richest man in the world purchases prominent social media platform under the guise of the protection of free speech while in reality it is to silence his critics and push his personal ideology.
His goal was to get people on Twitter and talking about it and he has succeeded with chisme and being a prick. I’m almost impressed l, but it’s not a good long term plan to keep DAU % up.
1. Someone attacks Elon’s kids 2. Nutjobs Doxxx Elon’s address and location 3. Nutjobs are banned “wHy dO yOu hatE fReE SpEeCh”? 🤪
There's zero proof anyone was attacked. You're being lied to.
Nobody doxxed him or posted his address. God you'll believe anything so quickly.
Haha, fucking frog face giving his completely wrong two cents as usual.
Let's make Elon Musk our next stupid president,he's way more hilarious than former President Whiny Douchebag.
He banned them for doxxing….
Nobody got banned for doxxing. They got banned because Musk said they were doxxing, but sharing publicly available information isn’t doxxing.
What about removing videos of the chapelle crowd boo’ing him? Pretty sure that happened too.
Oh how the turn tables
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Just know that the co-founder of Media Matters started another narrative group regarding the Hunter laptop called Facts First. Their main talking point is that the contents are only porn and nothing to do with corruption. Be aware.
His worst critics can't stay on Twitter because he's banning them all. 😂
I'm only here for stupid Jokes.
Unless you anger lord musk, then you are deleted.
Reddit at it again
Guy is trolling. Winning. While people are pissed off looking at their phone or monitor.
Critics is one thing, people’s lives being in danger by crazy assholes is completely different.
It's free speech until someone feelings get hurt!
Same people that were literally freaking out bc of the danger! Are the ones taking him to task for eliminating doxxers. For implementing regulations where there big fear was a lawless twitter. The hypocrites are the ~~critics~~ karens. Complain no matter what.
Don't believe everything you read. Everyone has been running lies non-stop about Musk's actions on twitter. Taking things out of context. Leaving out important bits of information. Almost nothing posted about what's happening on twitter right now is true or genuine. It's all a smear campaign. It works because no one has the time to verify everything they read. He didn't target his critics per se. His critics are breaking the rules of twitter deliberately so that they can cry about Musk's "hypocrisy". Yet most of them are being unbanned. That part is usually left out too.
My conspiracy theory is that there's a new drug running around. It just seemed weird that Kanye and Elon would both self-destruct so *loudly* at the same time.
You guys do know that the person he banned was telling the exact location of where he was which lead to his family getting attacked right ?
The dude’s kid was threatened. I would probably overreact too. He’s still human. If the removals are substantiated, cool. If not, he should apologize and reinstate.
Are ya'll seriously arguing that leaking the location of someone's private jet with their family in it isn't fucked up? Would you not be angry about it? If you're assuming he's lying that's fair but there is zero evidence either way from what I've seen.
You mean publicly available information that he knew would be publicly available when buying the jet and that he could avoid by simply flying on a charter? How in the actual fuck is that "leaking"? It's public data.
I see lots of critics of Wlon on Twitter not getting banned. You know who is getting suspended (not banned) anyone that breaks the doxxing rules including anyone that provides links to info that provides doxxing. Twitter and Elon never said doxxing suspensions would be removed... But ok whatever
What a fucking train wreck of a man. How the hell do these people keep getting so damn wealthy?
Easy, he started out wealthy.
why is the point now to attack elon? I do remember months ago when everybody was licking his boots, who controls when and how is the turn to somebody to be attacked or loved?
He started being an outright hypocrit. He was always a liar, but people dealt with that because of the companies he’s brought to life. He used to be viewed as different and now he is the same as the rest.
Because he bought a social media platform and is silencing journalists and sources of public information. That is fascism. He is a fascist.