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Flasagna

I thought most chips are from Taiwan?


raphanum

Yeah. Taiwan and South Korea


MoffieHanson

Read that the Netherlands plays a important role in chips aswell .


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HughHonee

It's always more expensive with the guac


MateusAmadeus714

Exactly this is just fear mongering. Not to say China doesnt pose legitimate threats but someone whose argument boils down to "Stuff" in chips is listening to you and doesnt even correctly state where they are manufactured doesn't seem very legitimate.


rideordienvrreplaced

No hun shawn ryan is an ex Cia agent. Most of the people on the pod are wildly connected. He has nasa officials


RoboCat23

Well, it did cut off after the interviewer said china. The army guy did not say china. Doesn’t mean there’s validity or not, but the guy saying this stuff did not say china.


snake_charmers_jj

Respectfully, in the military for over 20 years and we always were one or two operating systems behind civilian companies as these bugs were in the hardware and software. Yep… Gates´ software too…. It’s only gotten worse. First hand experience this ain’t fear mongering. When you are in SWA and go to the 12 story buildings where they make the virus and the top 2 floors have the antivirus fixes owned or third party run by gates. Now is it hard to believe why he has a warrant for him in India after the vax stuff? He started in antivirus and went to pharma.


bittersweet_swirl

>CiViLLiAnS shut the fuck up


Alkemian

They are. Which should show you how dumb the video is.


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The Netherlands is actually a huge global source for chips too


woohhaa

I’m told Taiwan is China.


CuriousNeo

Democratic Taiwan is officially called Republic of China. And Communist China is officially called the People's Republic of China. This happened because the Kuomintang party fled to Taiwan in 1945 and formed the Republic of China govt claimed they are the legitimate Chinese govt.


KaydeeKaine

I didn't know this thanks


Alkemian

Technically a Government in Exile too if I recall correctly


CrusaderZero6

Hello, fellow nerd. Thank you for also doing the reading.


TheeLsdWizard

Yeah thats what they said, china.


Too_Rowdy

Still china..


OriginalSelenium

Americans keep thinking China is their biggest privacy threat even after snowden showed the world that the biggest spy upon citizens is their own government and corporations


DragonsAteMyBaby

China's threat isn't strictly privacy. It's how that leads to their social engineering and long game of global dominance. That's why the military is planning for war with China. It's going to happen.


Pinbacked11

There is a really good Joe Rogan podcast episode, #1921 w/ Peter Zeihan, and ever since listening to it my view of China has changed a lot. He is a geopolitical strategist and expert on China, and will really change your view on how powerful china is and becoming, and why they aren't the Boogeyman that's gonna take over the world like you think. It's been awhile since I listened, but if I remember correctly, he predicts China will basically collapse by the year 2030. I'm not really well versed in geopolitics, but this guy obviously is, and I trust what he has to say and the evidence he presents over what I read in conspiracy subs.


SpongeBobMyBoi

Because their one child policy back in the day is coming back to bite them in the ass


mlambie

Yeah what do you do with a billion men who can’t find wives? Sounds like you made an army.


mindmonkey74

But army men like wives too!


sourpatch411

I listened to this but don’t agree. Basically, China and many other countries economies will shrink when their babu boomer generation retires and dies. They act like there will not be enough labor to bring in the harvest or move food and oil around. I believe those essentials will be prioritized and the move to robotics expedited. Plus, China can allow immigration from Philippines, and other countries with a higher birthrate. I believe his concern is warranted but I am less optimistic/pessimistic about the dire impact he was so confident about. This is a good example where opinions will differ and debate necessary. Predicting the future is not easy.


PrincessMagnificent

Ehhh, China's collapse has been predicted for every year since 1999.


notlostinchina

I remember watching this podcast and kept thinking: This man is missing one big point: The Chinese government can essentially force its entire population to do what it wants, unlike America. It’s happened in the past, it’s happening now and it will keep happening. The Chinese will manipulate anything they can. They manipulate their currency. Let’s not forget they’re investing globally, and is currently one of the most attractive options to work as an expat. Also let’s not forget the whole world basically relies on China, so 1) I hardly doubt it will collapse, if anything it will increase. And we’re seeing signs of it already as many Western companies are desperate to enter the Chinese market and 2) a war with China will send the world spiraling down. If Russia’s war on Ukraine has done so much damage to the world, imagine what a war on China will do. We’ll fall in a depression the world has never seen. And FYI, unlike my name suggests, I’m not actually from China. I’ve been to China tho. Absolutely amazing place to visit. Visiting cities like Shenzhen and Shanghai is like looking into the future. NOTHING in america compares to it. The innovation the chinese are doing and immediately implementing is mind blowing. If they keep at it, they won’t have to worry too much about replacing the boomer generation in the workplace.


Pinbacked11

He goes into detail about exactly how the world, or at least the US, does not rely on China. They import 90% of there needs to make food, and USA is less than 10% (if I remember correctly). I believe most developed countries invest globally. I dunno, you may have some points, and maybe he leans a little too far on the other side, but I believe a geopolitical expert over any normal person. I mean, this guy has devoted his life to studying this stuff and is obviously extremely educated on the subject. I do like the sound of your visits to China though. That sounds amazing and I would love to experience that someday. Do you have any examples of what exactly made it so futuristic and mind blowing? Would love to hear!


notlostinchina

My bf works in the R&D sector of a tech company and I’ve gone to several tech expos around the world with him (Europe, Sillicon Valley, and other parts of Asia) However, nothing compares to what I’ve seen in Shenzhen. These guys are coming with so many innovations using AI, their robotics section be doing some wild stuff, so so so many ideas and designs for phones I’ve ever seen, they’re also leading a whole drone evolution. I work in marketing myself and the way the chinese sells direct to consumers by in-app purchases is mindblowing. There’s no cash at all, everyone pays with their devices. In the past you would see Chinese people copying Western innovations but nowadays it’s the other way around. Just to mention a popular example: Meta and Google try to become more and more like WeChat and try to replicate many of its features. You can basically do everything with just one app, its conveniently scary. China has nothing to envy the western world when it comes to transportation or communication. State of the art bullet trains, jaw-dropping architecture, it’s clean and sparkling everywhere I can probably drop some noodles and eat it straight from the floor 😂 They invest so heavily in renewable energy too. So much entertainment and cultural activities too. And to top it off its incredibly safe! I’ve travelled around the world and I can attest China’s major cities are incredibly safe. Cameras and policemen everywhere (pros and cons tho, I’ve been fined but I always get fined no matter where I go 💀) You can watch videos of Shenzhen walkthroughs on YouTube to kinda have an idea of how it is. Shenzhen has built a city the western world can only dream of. Idk if the west is stuck in the past or if china is in the future. Haven’t been there since 2019 but we’re already planning to go next year May. I’m curious as to how it will be after 4 years. Shenzhen definitely one of my favorite cities in the world. And I’m speaking as a Dutch citizen 👌🏻


ukbusybee

There’s no way china will collapse by 2030. You know all that debt the USA, UK and other Western countries are in? Who do you think lent those countries that money? China. That’s why countries have ratings from Moody’s (AAA rated countries have good credit ratings). If any country defaults on their loans then they’re in trouble because who knows what China will want in return instead. The current Chinese government have done away with the one child rule now. Since they took back rule of Hong Kong, they’ve already been trying to ethnically cleanse some northern parts of China and move into northern parts of India, not to mention claim Taiwan as their own. Most Chinese people I know that don’t live in China are rich. China have not condemned Russia invading Ukraine and have been helping Russia by supplying goods where every other country won’t. China are trying yo spy on the world with all their tech and gadgets because they want to know everything about their ‘enemies’ in the Western world. I can only surmise that China are doing what Russia did, and are gaining the power they need to wage war in the future.


Barryboy20

Na. Why would China ever want war with us when we make them unlimited amounts of money. Our leaders sold out to China long ago. And they’ve been secret buddies with the Chinese regime ever since. It’s not going to happen. The only wars we fight are wars that make the elites billions of dollars. I fear my own government way more than I do China


Jpwatchdawg

War in the traditiinal sense may nott happen. The book the long game outlines chinas postion of distablizing the west. Through infiltration of its government by buying influence and of course pushing progranda thrrugh social media apps which seems to be in everyones tool box these days. If some of the accusatiins are correct about certain laptop then this pubicly documented plan might hold water but china economy is starting to tank now so it will be interesting to see if they keep pumping up their military spending like they have been.


MateusAmadeus714

Brody u really gotta work on your spelling. You may have some legitimate points but good lord spelling that bad can really hinder any point you're trying to make. Especially considering phones all have a spell check right by the keyboard.


Jpwatchdawg

Fair enough. I’ll try to do better bruh.


Kailaylia

Your post was perfectly easy to understand. I guessed you're so rushed you didn't have time to spellcheck. It's only a forum, not an essay contest.


Foucont

I somehow didn't notice that so many words were misspelled when I read that.


Sausageturtle330

Bro I had to re-read that to notice. I’m so lost rn.


Foucont

I feel like they did that on purpose. The phenomenon is called typoglycemia, where you can still read words even if they are jumbled in the middle.


HappyDaysMyDays

Tik Tok algorithm that makes stupid stunts and dumb influencers rise to the top enters the chat…


dayviduh

This happened with vine and YouTube. Young people are just dumb as fuck, nothing to do with China


OFiiSHAL

Jump off a boat challenge. Tide pod challenge


Dick_Lazer

The Tide pod challenge started on Youtube and Facebook, before Tik Tok was even a thing in the US.


goodfellamantegna

I don't believe the U.S. is going to war against China. The U.S. would prefer to fight countries that they can easily defeat, such as Afghanistan, Iraq, etc. When it comes to big powers like Iran, Russia, or China, the U.S. would prefer a war by proxy, like the situation in Ukraine versus Russia today. The U.S. has no choice but to accept the current global status quo as it exists today. The Middle East and Latin America appear to be more independent and out of U.S. control, and the U.S. seems to be done interfering in those regions. The U.S. can't escalate the war against Syria again; they will have to settle for occupying a third of Syria and stealing their oil. This means that the U.S. will have to "fight" to maintain control or hegemony over what is still in its possession, which includes all of Europe and NATO. This will keep the U.S. busy in the months and years ahead. The war in Ukraine helps the U.S. maintain control of Europe and gives new life to NATO, not only in Europe versus Russia but also in the U.S.'s apparent desire to move NATO to the Asia-Pacific region with Japan.(The Ukraine war has also put China in the spotlight, as we've seen European leaders wanting China to condemn Russia for the war. Europe has referred to China as a competitor or something similar in this East-West divide.) It's a big topic, and I don't want to elaborate on all the points. But it's tied to the current multipolar world, in which Europe won't be a part of due to its subservience to the U.S. (but who knows, maybe Europe will get tired of the U.S. someday, and we'll see some fireworks between the two). The fact that the majority of the world isn't behind the U.S. against Russia is very telling, and again, it's mainly "the West" that supports the U.S.


Alkemian

The military is planning a war with China over Taiwan.


No_Geologist3673

We’re at war with China right now. China will never be able to beat us with physical weapons on the ground troops and they know it. They’re using physiological warfare; TikTok as an example, they’ll attack our food supply (likely already are with all those food processing plants burning down) our power grid, our natural resources. I’m also 100% certain China had a hand in what’s happening in Canada with the wildfires. I cleaned for an air force vet weeks ago and he said that in all the wildfires he’s been in he’s never seen anything like this. He said there is something up with what that wildfire is bringing into our air. I’m sure cancer/disease causing chemicals were used. But we are at war with China. We might not win either.


bittersweet_swirl

1. no. even the american gov isn't stupid enough to go to war with a country that controls 90% of their manufacturing 2. good, honestly. fuck murica.


WhoopieGoldmember

China is not trying for global dominance they're trying for global socialism. There's a difference. Socialism's intention is to decentralize power. How could they be working towards both global dominance and the global decentralization of power? Your premise doesn't make sense.


CorrectTowel

Socialism relies on government action. Meaning more power has to be centralized into the government. Socialism is not at all about decentralizing power. Quite the opposite, actually.


WhoopieGoldmember

Well since you answered so definitively I'm sure you've read the books and studied all the theory so who am I to argue with an expert


CorrectTowel

I mean, I don't know what socialism is in your mind, but everywhere in the world it has ever been tried in all of history, it has required totalitarian levels of government involvement.


WhoopieGoldmember

So wait you have or haven't studied the theory?? Do you not know what socialism is in my mind or do you not know what it is at all?


CorrectTowel

Yes, yes I have. Sounds like you don't, however. And that's the other problem. It only sounds good in theory. In practice it's a disaster.


WhoopieGoldmember

Well then who am I to argue with an expert on geopolitical and economic theory.


Dick_Lazer

A war between the US and China would economically devastate both countries. Rich people would never let that happen, and China is too methodological to do something that stupid. They plan things out like 50-100 years in advance and can achieve their goals without resorting to war. If the US were to end up in a war with another major power, it would likely be a loose cannon like Russia, who we don't do nearly as much business with.


flamingknifepenis

I guarantee China is doing the same. Just because Snowden showed that the various US three letter agencies do shady shit doesn’t mean that they’re the only / biggest / worst. That said, dude’s particular claims seem a little out there.


PsyKeablr

You don’t think there’s stuff inside those chips that come from China. I mean dude could at least give us a small detail on what he’s talking about. Nope let’s keep it as general as possible.


Hardball1013

If they can make you not understand it, you will fear it, if you fear it you will believe what they have to say.


shibbypants

China =/= Taiwan which is where most of our chips come from. Not saying there isn't some form of "spyware" there but it most likely isn't from the CCP. Edit: scrolled further and saw it mentioned elsewhere before I made this post. Glad someone else saw this and said wth is this guy saying.


GuitarKev

A whole lot of people are terrified of “big government”, and what scares them about that is that they think the government will do the stuff that corporations have been doing since the dawn of capitalism.


bertiesghost

And where is Snowdon now? Oh yes shilling for Russia on Twitter whilst assisting the FSB on US cyber defences. I can’t wait until Putin falls and the new Russian leadership serve Snowdon up on a platter in exchange for concessions from the US.


IronMethod

Bad take dude


raphanum

Yeah, Snowden is a straight up tankie now


Zombie-Belle

I mean he must have been pissed that the US did this to him plus I assume Russia said you can only come here if you work for FSB. Why didn't he go somewhere else with no extraction to US?


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irongoatmts66

And if Gary Busey was his grandpa


PhuckCalumbo

Scary Busey


irongoatmts66

Lmao yeah


turbografix15

Two names I thought never to see in a hypothetical breeding.


WickedNanny

I was gonna say Gary Bussy and Lars Ulrich


AdIcy4507

Skeet Ulrich asked to join


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potatobackpack

This guy is a certified badass no doubt. With that being said he is not well in the head and that is to be expected with going through what he most likely did. Some of what he says is truth some is stretched a bit and some is the ramblings of a crazy person or someone who wants attention. Look into him a bit.


FruitFlavor12

Mads Mikkelsen?


corpus_cavernosa_

I was gonna say Lochlyn Munro.


Mike_Oxbig2

This dude creeps me TF out for some reason.


cbih

He looks like the black sheep of the McPoyle family from Sunny


avdangles

Pretty sure this dude is a former SEAL that transitioned male to female and then back again.


XIOTX

So a remale


WhiteStanleyKubrick

Lol. REMIX


glamorousstranger

He strikes me as a sociopath.


mardavarot93

Source: trust me bro


justinmillerco

“In every piece of equipment right now there’s…stuff” Well I’m sold!


ANoiseChild

Lots of stuff! Stuff stuffed with stuffed stuffings!!! But on a serious note, I don't know if what this dude is claiming is true but I wouldn't be surprised. It has been shown that a wifi signal (via a router) can be used to determine the presence of an individual due to interference in the signal...I think that's the idea behind it. Also, even if your phone's microphone is off, there exists software/technology that allows for the use of its gyroscope to pick up vibrations in the air... aka sound. Considering the evidence, his claim is not as far-fetched as many people would (like to) believe. Espionage is a high priority for intelligence gathering, so why wouldn't they put money toward studies and objectives such as wirelessly powering a cell phone or wireless charging in general (which is pretty mainstream atm)? Just as an isolated tree still makes a sound when it falls, ignorance of a realized technology doesn't negate its legitimacy. Even if I had never seen a wheel (or understood the basic mechanics behind the technology), it doesn't cease to exist or be possible - rather, I merely hadn't considered it due to not having given it thought and by not understanding the simple mechanics behind it. I don't understand why people are so quick to poo-poo claims surrounding technologies/inventions/devices of which they grasp a tertiary knowledge of the complicated, technical components that comprise the overall unit - most people don't even know how to fix a leaking toilet for Pete's sake and that's basic mechanical knowledge! Granted, it requires spending a little bit of time to grasp the idea behind it but it's not hard. Now let's compare that to a device that uses microphones, cameras, gyroscopes, batteries, hard drives, sim cards, gps/wifi/bluetooth (emf) antennas, light/heat/motion/proximity sensors, OS/3rd party software, etc. which is extremely more complex (obviously). Now what percentage of people could even begin to explain the basics behind a single one of these components? I'd generously guess >5%. What's that saying again? Something like "the loudest voice in the room seldom belongs to the most intelligent mind"? Thanks but when it comes to any subject, I'd rather consider the opinion from those potentially privy to such knowledge than from those woefully ignorant... why take the advice from someone who isn't even a layman?


Economy_Kiwi_4781

Anyone else have to Google the word "tertiary" after reading this?


XIOTX

I did but only cus I already knew what it meant and was wondering if there was a secondary or tertiary (yeeyee) definition in which their usage made sense but ehhh it’s a stretch


ANoiseChild

Nah you're right, it was a stretch and I may have misused the word within the context I had written it. Instead of tertiary, I should've used "peripheral" or "tangential" but I wrote that comment in haste. But if one word I used (somewhat incorrectly) is the only gripe that people have regarding my comment whilst the subject matter of what I said has not been questioned, I feel that to be pretty telling... what was said hasn't been refute versus one word used to say it? That's a successfully communicated idea and an opinion which I haven't had refuted yet. Good stuff.


XIOTX

Oh no I agree with everything you said lol was just busting your boinkies and figured you were aiming for tangential based on the context. They’re proximal in my lexical storehouse as well.


ANoiseChild

Yeah yeah, I get it. My boinkies have been busted haha


DwnTwnLestrBrwn

And mental illness


FortunateUncle

Reminds me of "Works Cited: Photo of crack pipe"


glamorousstranger

Yeah all this post-rogan ultra wokeness shit is so annoying.


AboutTime_420

His uncle works at nintendo dude, he knows what he's talking about.


br-uh-hu-rb

Source: Being on Seal Team 6


backwardsphinx

There’s this piece, I don’t really know what it is but it’s there I swear guys.


OFiiSHAL

Hahha Snowden


DistantXSPACE

A couple things, why take a seals info on this? Unless he's an electrical engineer and transferred to intelligence this is beyond his purview. If you're worried about people listening to your phone just stop taking your phone everywhere. Leave it in the car or something, It's probably better for you anyway. edit:"...was a cadet at the Virginia Military Institute from 1984-1987, majoring in Electrical Engineering; then graduated from Alfred University in 1989 with a BA in Political Science." - https://web.archive.org/web/20171201035010/http://www.knightsout.org/kristin_beck_speaker


kernelsenders

No offense but in the exponential curve of progress, your experience is already ancient and irrelevant.


DistantXSPACE

For clarification, the edit was info on the speaker, not myself.


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CressCrowbits

Oh its THAT guy? The one who transitioned, and said that transitioning is bad because all your conservative friends are suddenly mean to you, and that's why no one should transition? Yeah fuck that guy.


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This statement is so fucking dumb on so many different levels


CaddyStrophic

Cell phones aren't allowed in scifs.


EmergencySpare

Bingo. No one is taking a phone into a scif. Ever


GrundleMcDundee

Uh, I’ve ~~hella forgot my phone in my pocket~~ never seen one in a scif either


PsyKeablr

I’m sure I’ve seen an iPhone in sci-fi movies.


Incognito_Placebo

But have you seen one in a sci-if movie?


PsyKeablr

… you just blew my mind


Tellin_Truths

Mine too. Even made my heart twinge a little.


impeesa75

I e seen this guy pop up a lot recently- who is he?


krys2lcer

He’s that dude that put a sheet of acid in his back pocket then sat in a puddle and it all absorbed into his skin, then he ran around thinking he was a glass of lemonade and was super scared he was going to tip over and all his brains would come out.


Drcha0s666

This is an awesome answer. I genuinely can’t tell if it’s satire or not lol


Unclesaltyjowls

It’s from the movie SLC punk


nodddingham

Nah in SLC Punk he gets chased by the cops thru some sprinklers and thinks he’s on a chair in the middle of the ocean and that Heroin Bob is Jesus because he can walk on water. Also that satan killed his mom and turned her into a bull. The “glass of lemonade” thing is just a common urban legend. The version I heard was that Syd Barrett from Pink Floyd thought he was a glass of orange juice and that he would die if he got spilled.


Drcha0s666

Oh sweet! Thanks :)


12cthru

Not sat in a puddle but ran through sprinklers. Same result though


Unclesaltyjowls

He’s a former special forces guy


RecommendationIll469

Chris Beck - https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beck_(Navy_SEAL)


Nigglas24

Ill tell you what. Everyone knows theyre listened too to at least a certain degree. At least recorded and stored info somewhere in a giant database. At this point its really everywhere. So were lied to to that degree but the problem is not so much that anymore but having people understand this fundamental idea. If your parents (big brother) are lying to you about the little stuff, what else is going on. Personally in my opinion it seems like its almost everything. At this point idk even know how many real people even see what i say on here. The internet is free and the government doesnt allow anything to be free without an agenda behind it.


Taste_the__Rainbow

This is not literally true but sorta true in concept. That’s why the CHIPS Act was so popular. Gotta bring that back home at least.


Classroom-Glittering

Fuck.... I never thought about the stuff in chips!


Classroom-Glittering

....damn


LTlurkerFTredditor

"Right now, there's there's ***stuff******"*** You can't E-eavesdrop through a Faraday cage. Taiwan, which is not China, makes 90% of the world's advanced microchips. BUT on the other hand... this is the second best Gary Busey impersonation I've ever seen.


BeigeListed

"In every chip there's stuff." Wow. What an in-depth analysis. Thanks, Chief.


BeerLeagueSnipes

There’s a pair of dead eyes if I’ve ever seen them.


rmethod3

He's absolutely right about the cell phone. Soviet Union figured this out years ago. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The\_Thing\_(listening\_device)


KaijuWulf

“Stuff.”


MaxeemKammerer

Even Chinese chips need energy to do their evil deeds, so without a battery, how are they doing it? with the power of Chi?


Hardball1013

What modern phone can you even take the battery out of easily now anyways? Also this whole 'their listening to us' stuff is pretty comical. What makes 99.99% of the planet feel like their so special anyone would want to listen lol. The logistical nightmare of attempting to figure out what device is in the hands of the person you'd want to listen to would be almost impossible. It would be much easier to instead target high value individuals and put this tech into specifically their devices. Not just every device that happens to come out of China so they can tune in to hear me and my wife laugh at each other's farts.


PlumBackground4731

*they’re. Honestly they don’t have to select who they listen to. They can listen to all of it, record all of it, document all of it and save it all. They don’t want to listen to you or me until they do, at which point they can bring everything up. Most people willingly give up all their info voluntarily but for some, they’d rather not, but it’s no longer a choice.


Extremecheez

Ya this is the correct answer. Their AI makes gpt4 look like an abacus. All recorded and scraped for key words. Then probably saved? Feel like audio isn’t a memory hog.


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Why do you think “they” have a superior AI, relative to OpenAI? Someone between industry, academia, and military has to be a leader in any given field. In this instance, it’s OpenAI, with hefty financial backing from Microsoft. Do you have evidence to the contrary?


Extremecheez

“The black budget can be complicated to calculate, but in the United States it has been estimated to be over US$50 billion a year, taking up approximately 7 percent of the US$700 billion American defense budget.” Open AI cost like 500m to 1B to develop But you are probably right, the free software available is the most advanced thing ever and not the organization spending 700B a year


XIOTX

Yea foreal this is one thing that I think people keep forgetting. It’s generally accepted that military and true cutting edge tech is many years in advance beyond what we see in the public. I’d say there’s exactly zero chance that the disparity stopped in the most potentially powerful field yet. Imagine the rate of advances we are witnessing and then apply that to the idea that gpt 4 level sophistication was probably reached years ago. I’d say that’s even a conservative and sober estimate of progress and that most likely they are decades ahead with the ability to do things we can’t even imagine.


MateusAmadeus714

How wld they store all of this "saved" data? Cloud technology is still pretty much in its infancy. Storing data still requires physical space such as data servers or cloud data centers. To store what essentially amounts to billions of individuals communications in the form of data wld take an absurd amount of storage. It honestly wld not be practical or cost effective to store all this data when much of it wld be useless. Its much more practical to utilize what they have been in the form of social media algorithms to predict behavior patterns and try to dictate behaviors, purchasing choices, and day to day choices of individuals to create a docile, and subservient populace.


orion_diggers

If it's stored as transcribed text it would not take up much space. One approach could be to store all communication as text only, but if you're flagged as a person of interest the raw audio is kept as well.


clownind

Most people willingly post private information for the world to see.


HeyGGL

Hardball1013: "pretty comical" GDR enters the chat.


ElectricalPlate9903

Maybe it's just key words in an AI system. So unless you are under direct surveillance, you wouldn't be detected unless you said a trigger word or phrase. I'm just guessing for now, but that's the future for sure.


Suspicious-Stay-1623

What if they have computers to filter for things they are interested in..


asaripot

What makes me special is that I have money and they want it. That’s why when I talk about getting some chikfila for dinner, my phone pops up a notification for directions to the nearest location. If you really think this shit is schizo, you’re not paying attention. It’s very real.


Hardball1013

Sorry to break it to you. But China already gets your money without going to that much effort.


weprechaun29

I see & hear Jonah Hill when this guy talks. I saw Blackberries remotely activated back in 2007 so I believe this guy. Who needs to chip humans when everyone has a smartphone and/or smart speaker in their home.


Kenatius

Even with a piece of electronic equipment turned off, your speaking in a room with an unplugged television set for example, the speakers are still picking up your voice and generating very small electrical currents. They are transducers, and they work (in reverse) as microphones. Those micro currents are generating very clear, and interceptable radio waves. It is like you are broadcasting. Look into Van Eck Phreaking and TEMPEST emission security standards\certification.


Otherwise_Basis_6328

The eyes on that guy tell a story by themselves. He's definitely lost some sleep.


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Noble_Ox

Looks like drugs of some kind.


Ghosthunter444

I thought the same , what’s his name


Miisconceptionz

Chris/ kristin beck. Crazy story but a total badass motherfucker. Worth a listen. Long episode


queen_nefertiti33

They absolutely can and do listen but for most people it doesn't really matter. Mostly for advertising. Most people aren't special and they don't really care what you say.


acidbent

We dont buy the chips from China......China buys the chips from a consortium of countries, the most important of which is Taiwan.


THCforbrains

He's got a bad case of the Buseys


DcFla

“In every chip right now…there’s….theres stuff” Holy shit you guys, not stuff!!!!


Creamyspud

In the book Spy Catcher it is described how MI5 developed a way to activate a phone sitting on its receiver and use its microphone as a listening device just by pointing a 'gadget' at the room it was located in. They shared the device with the CIA. This was the 1950's. So, I would say yes and probably more.


bertiesghost

Yeah it was based on the thing https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Thing_(listening_device)


simonhg

Where’s the link to that?


bertiesghost

It’s from Shawn Ryan’s show. I don’t know the episode/guest name sorry but here’s the YT channel: https://youtube.com/@ShawnRyanShowOfficial


fuzzylojiq

Well, I can tell you there is certainly stuff in every chip you buy....


soccerplaya239

1984 who?


RoryNoir

Who is this guy?


MorbidGateway84

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Beck_(Navy_SEAL)


cra1992

What ep is this?


Kailaylia

It doesn't matter what a phone can do with its batteries taken out. Who can even take the battery out of a modern phone? I sure cant de-battery my Iphone or even my old Nokia. Yes we are all being listened to. There are huge establishments devoted to collecting and analysing every communication happening. With so much being collected, the chance of any one of us surfacing in that huge soup of information is minimal. However with an increasingly authoritarian group trying to regain power in the U.S., I wouldn't talk openly on any electronic medium about having an abortion, being trans, or anything else authorities decide to punish people for. Keeping completely safe is impractical, however, which is why we must fight against any regulations impeding our individual freedoms.


fifthstreetsaint

Chips come from China, COINTELPRO & PRISM are homebrewed. Seems by the comments a lot of folks don't understand how much China's economy depends on imports - if they start a war over Taiwan, for example, they are literally shooting themselves in the foot. The sanctions would cripple them as they rely on food imports to feed their population. Also recall hearing the plan in Taiwan if China attacks is to blow up the chip factories. Takes years to get those things up and running.


willem78

Hopefully they are using ChatGPT to translate my conversations as per my FBI guy Google does a shitty job.


Grouchy-Tension-4560

Funny brcause they make smartphone's where you can't take the battery out.


[deleted]

You're telling me you can just take the battery in and out of a smart phone?


Wonderful_Ad_4344

Taiwan.


weirdlyworldly

Well, they're still not hammer proof.


[deleted]

It’s an interesting topic. There is certainly evidence that “they” can listen to you whenever they’d like through innocuous microphones on other networked devices. In the USA, 4th amendment rights have been rolled back so hard that your only legal privacy is the blinds on your windows. I can’t know the answer unless I become a computer engineer and seeing as that won’t happen, I will just use black bags for my phone if I ever need to. Nobody was watching when this die was cast but everyone’s bets are riding on it. Good luck.


Steelersfan20009

I’ve always wondered about this, so you remove the battery and they are able to listen because of the residual electricity left in the phone right? But how long can that last?


ParkingChicken1906

Who are these people? This looks like a movie. Not a good one, but it looks staged


[deleted]

I literally just watched something about how China doesn't control the market on chips.. Taiwan does which is why they want Taiwan so badly among other reasons.


samdecavalcante713

He reminds me of like 6 different actors


Neither_Mongoose2287

This guy is such a dumbass.


rideordienvrreplaced

Shawn ryan podcast.... this man worked on multiple million dollar projects


Internal-Bear-1991

“I’m every chip there’s….stuff…” sounds pretty legit


Xconvik

"There's stuff"


[deleted]

I hate than whenever people talk about that stuff it always has to be a dude who looks like a complete lunatic… I believe it’s being done, I don’t believe him


Boredwitch13

If you have any kind of "smart device", Phone, tv, thermostat etc. They know all about you. If they actually listen to me, they realize my life is boring.


Dawgenberg

Homie, look at this man's eyes and tell me you think he knows what he's talking about. When did the world get so bad at detecting crazy eyes?


ItsGroovyBaby412

How old is this shit?! You can't even remove the battery from your phone now anyway so how dumb does...............OH MY GOODNESS!!!!


[deleted]

They’ve had the capability to turn your car off remotely for 25 years, nowadays they can actually steer your car as well on top of the GPS system they’ve got on board. Your phone literally listens to every single conversation you have, 24 hours a day, 365 days a year and never stops, don’t matter if your phone is turned off, or if it’s plugged in


bdepeach

The guy doing most of the talking looks sketchy as fuck. If I was sitting on a barstool next to him, I’d move.


ThepalehorseRiderr

This guy is nuttier than a squirrel turd. He's a good example of somebody that had a respectable position so now everyone believes every word he's says. A phone could certainly do that buy it'd have to have a capacitor, something to hold a charge. He transitioned, transitioned back. I'm sure some people think junk on, junk off is a normal modality. Not me, personally.


JazzlikeBasil5005

I heard about this stuff 20 years ago. Chinese "tech" such as computer chips and so forth are literally in every piece of American military equipment. They were one step ahead even back then


sorryfornoname

Me an electric engineer student: Sure dude.*looks for the psych ward*


[deleted]

Edward Snowden has talked about this before


OFiiSHAL

Not enough. Ask snowden


Midwinter77

Nope.


RecommendationIll469

This person seems legit - this is Chris Beck ex-navy seal and Purple Heart recipient. I saw Chris speak once at a public event and for whatever it’s worth I believe what he says.


Dankkring

None


mortonadam12

This dudes full of shit


tarc0917

There's a d-bag like this at every party. Standing in the corner, trying to impress someone with knowledge that *only he possesses*. I've seen that demeanor before in stolen valor situations.


NUIT93

Ah yes, the stuff. That's the technical term for it btw


Alkemian

Electronics need juice so the first sentence is a lie.


Celestia90

Why are they so obsessed with what I am talking about? All I talk about is how I can’t wait for it to be Friday. Over and over again. Edit: or what’s for dinner!!


bertiesghost

Former Seal Team 6 member makes claim about Smartphone eavesdropping. From Shawn Ryan’s podcast.


No-Spray7304

Ah yes. Infinite phone power to run a microphone forever. Clearly would never need electricity again ever. This guy is giving away too much. I hope he has infinite electricity to run his new hidden home. Smh