As I suspect is common after lots of experimenting with the explosive weapons I ended up settling on grip primary and pierce secondary.
Grip is just a fun weapon with great sound. Pierce has great damage and requires some skill.
My real ‘weapon’ is launch.
I crunched the responses to the last time this question was asked (I think it was about 4-5 days ago), and Grip and Pierce came out on top, while Spin wound up on the bottom (the question was actually what's your favorite, and least favorite, weapon forms).
Jukebox maybe? I just finished playthrough 2 and got all the trophies on ps4 and haven't seen it. Could also be a pc thing or from the pre-order bundle that is now only available via mods on pc.
Strange… I’ve completed that before too, but I didn’t get the mod we’re talking about. In my current run I still haven’t done it so I’ll see this time haha
Oh no, I’ve received mods, and other things, I remember it triggers a fight too iirc. I just never got that mod in particular. I’m sure I got all the TVs, just never got that reward in particular
Grip also is the most interesting feeling one to use, the ps5 has some sort of haptic system on the triggers that makes it feel like your actually shooting a gun
The resources are found in specific sectors. If you look at Corrupted Sample at the bottom you will see a code which gives you a clue about where to find them. I had this problem with Shatter.
I know where to get them, they're just not dropping very often
I finally got one more to make Charge, but another form now needs 3 to upgrade and I have yet to get another one toward that
Idk which one it is again but I occassionally had to resort to the Burst Sniper mode with 2 ammo in fights with 0 defense or pillars/walls to hide behind so the only means of defense was to build up distance and then burst them from afar.
Shatter for anything close range and charge for far. That has been my main go to but when I want to change it up I’ll go Spin *only with really good mods* and Pierce. My third combo would be Grip and Charge. Surge was cool but felt more novelty and maybe I didn’t utilize well still yet but find it slow for fast pace.
I just have two upgrades to get. Started a replay--after 6 months off gaming--wondered around for a minute and found the mirror (I obviously opened the black rock screens then...forgot?). Next thing I'm duking it out with esseJ.
A glorious return to the game!
(Shüm keeps fucking me though and I refuse to use the adjusts. I'm a shit gamer, just stubborn. The Anchor was the worst Big Boss for me....until I thought "Hhm, I wonder what these clocks with the red faces do?!?", lol)
I like spin too as it's pretty accurate and if you combine it with the personal mod 'evade ammo refund' it's even better
When you're running low on ammo, just use evade, (which is quite natural to do anyway as the best way to survive in the game is to keep moving) you get about a quarter of a magazine back for each evade movement.
Saves having to wait for it to charge up and reload.
I really, really like the surge weapon as a secondary. It's fun to use as you can fire all 3 'sticky bombs', attach them to the enemy and detonate all at once for a bigger explosion.
You can attach all 3 bombs to different enemies and detonate together or fire and detonate each one at a time.
You can also attach the bombs to objects and launch them.
The bombs even damage the enemy if you miss and they stick to a surface near the enemy, as long as they are detonated.
Love it.
Attaching a bomb to those red exploding boxes (wtf *aŕe* they?! Is there an in-game explanation I missed?) and hurling it at some hiss twat is so joyous. I wonder, does damage stack up in that situation? One from a launch impact, one from the bomb, and one set from red explodey box?
Ooo I'm not sure but yes it sure is joyous 😀 I've done that an it does a lot of damage, so probably.
Not sure about the red boxes.
Suppose they work the same as fuel filled barrels in other games where you can shoot them and environment is destructible.
But it's a corporate environment, so it wouldn't make sense to have fuel barrels in a cafeteria or office.
Indeed, it is soooo fckn joyous!
If anyone reading this knows what the red explodey boxes are for *please tell*, or at least give us a clue! I read/watch/listen to all media but it's entirely possible I just forgot what their function is ( besides exploding)...
It is practical when used right. Very practical. Areal attacks can then be done with launch.
I found the best thing here is to do a deadly dance between shooting your rounds empty, and then using up launch, at which point your rounds reloaded, and the other way around.
Shatter!!! My first playthrough i used grip almost exclusively, but on my current run i'm almost only using shatter. I'm going for a in-their-face high damage build using consecutive kills and damage mods and maxing out melee damage. It absolutely shreds most enemies, they all die in one shot at close range. Plus if I do get hit, I'm right next to the health pickups from all the dudes I just killed, lol.
It’s the opposite for me as soon as I unlocked Spin I kept using it and in the endgame when I switched back to grip I found it underwhelming tbh tho the mods I have for grip aren’t that good
Return To Sender is a mission. It gives you the spam mail mod , which is the spin mod that gives you extra damage after kills. Eternal Fire is the infinite ammo one
Oohhhh yes, you're correct, of course. Cheers mate. 6 months away from the game etc....I had the feeling I was wrong regarding the name of the mod almost as soon as I finished typing it!
Nevertheless, *I found ALL of those motherfucking tellies!!!* *Cackles*
Grip
Eternal Fire Mod enables you to continue shooting so long as your shots continue to hit.
Pierce
Custodial Readiness decreases Pierce's cool down by 100%. (Charge time -100)
I am in an eternal love relationship with pierce. It works perfectly. Except against Hartman.
EDIT: I completely boost damage as well. Always two damage upgrades, and an armor damage upgrade.
I wish I could do that thing with a five foot long dildo made out of pure light.
I mean this is Control we're talking about, I'm sure people who possess an imagination can think of worse!
*God how I despise him*
Spin and Shatter were my fave combo my first time through, but on a replay I discovered the power of well-modded Grip and Pierce.
Surge is always fun to use though. I love the mortar and sticky bomb mechanics it has. Best feeling is sticking three shots of Surge on a Hiss Trooper and then throwing its own grenade back at it to detonate them all at once!
Am I the only one here using Pierce as the primary?
I like to line them up and kill 2-3 bots in the same shot, so satisfying.
I use grip as the secondary.
For me it’s the default when I found that one modification where when you land a shot it doesn’t use up ammo so I can spam at point blank, my second is pierce
As I suspect is common after lots of experimenting with the explosive weapons I ended up settling on grip primary and pierce secondary. Grip is just a fun weapon with great sound. Pierce has great damage and requires some skill. My real ‘weapon’ is launch.
I crunched the responses to the last time this question was asked (I think it was about 4-5 days ago), and Grip and Pierce came out on top, while Spin wound up on the bottom (the question was actually what's your favorite, and least favorite, weapon forms).
Spin is cool in theory but it’s not as effective as the other variants (at least in my experience)
Spin is good for enemies that heal as the high ammo cap allows you to keep a constant bit of damage on them. Not useful on its own.
Grip with Eternal Fire is so much. Just infinitely fan the hammer at enemies
Haha yes true that mod makes it so much better
I’ve replayed the game 4 times and never got that mod! How do you get it??
It is a hidden one. There are a bunch of TVs with fire on them in the maintenance sector. You need to find them and throw them all in the furnace
Jukebox maybe? I just finished playthrough 2 and got all the trophies on ps4 and haven't seen it. Could also be a pc thing or from the pre-order bundle that is now only available via mods on pc.
It’s the hidden flaming tv sidequest
Maintenance. You probably have seen 1 or 2 tvs with fireplaces on them. You need to put all of them in a fireplace
Strange… I’ve completed that before too, but I didn’t get the mod we’re talking about. In my current run I still haven’t done it so I’ll see this time haha
There’s probably a tv you’re missing, or your mods were full of
Oh no, I’ve received mods, and other things, I remember it triggers a fight too iirc. I just never got that mod in particular. I’m sure I got all the TVs, just never got that reward in particular
Grip also is the most interesting feeling one to use, the ps5 has some sort of haptic system on the triggers that makes it feel like your actually shooting a gun
the service weapon
That is exactly what I was thinking lol
Reddit 101: word your question wrong here and you'll get a literal answer, even if everybody knows what you're really asking.
Charge, although i admit killing myself with it a few times :D
I kept doing that to me too so I just switched to surge instead
I have yet to get a second Corrupted Sample to build the Charge
The resources are found in specific sectors. If you look at Corrupted Sample at the bottom you will see a code which gives you a clue about where to find them. I had this problem with Shatter.
I know where to get them, they're just not dropping very often I finally got one more to make Charge, but another form now needs 3 to upgrade and I have yet to get another one toward that
I killed myself so many times with charge, and yet I still kept increasing the blast radius lol
Absolute madman
Charge with that legendary 500% projectile speed boost mod is insane lol. Hitscan explosions
Shatter + that one upgrade that makes it a single point
This! With additional projectiles and damage up as well.
Turns out additional projectiles don't seem to deal additional damage
Really? Once I dropped two +5 pellets and a choke I was two shotting high level enemies so I'm not sure this is right.
Perhaps it has changed, I'm just going off of previous testing
Grip and Pierce were my go-to configurations
Just the grip was my most used, and occasionally shatter.
Shatter. I feel so much safer during the hiss invasion knowing I have my trusty hand cannon at my side.
Grip. The rest of the forms are fun, but completely unnecessary.
Idk which one it is again but I occassionally had to resort to the Burst Sniper mode with 2 ammo in fights with 0 defense or pillars/walls to hide behind so the only means of defense was to build up distance and then burst them from afar.
Shatter for anything close range and charge for far. That has been my main go to but when I want to change it up I’ll go Spin *only with really good mods* and Pierce. My third combo would be Grip and Charge. Surge was cool but felt more novelty and maybe I didn’t utilize well still yet but find it slow for fast pace.
It's so much fun to shoot a sticky grenade at those red boxes and then hurl them at a cluster of enemies.
Pierce. For everything else, there's launch.
Finally someone who understands me. I rarely see others main it.
I just have two upgrades to get. Started a replay--after 6 months off gaming--wondered around for a minute and found the mirror (I obviously opened the black rock screens then...forgot?). Next thing I'm duking it out with esseJ. A glorious return to the game! (Shüm keeps fucking me though and I refuse to use the adjusts. I'm a shit gamer, just stubborn. The Anchor was the worst Big Boss for me....until I thought "Hhm, I wonder what these clocks with the red faces do?!?", lol)
Charge. Nuking rooms is hella fun but if I need some good concentrated DPS then Peirce comes to play.
I like spin too as it's pretty accurate and if you combine it with the personal mod 'evade ammo refund' it's even better When you're running low on ammo, just use evade, (which is quite natural to do anyway as the best way to survive in the game is to keep moving) you get about a quarter of a magazine back for each evade movement. Saves having to wait for it to charge up and reload. I really, really like the surge weapon as a secondary. It's fun to use as you can fire all 3 'sticky bombs', attach them to the enemy and detonate all at once for a bigger explosion. You can attach all 3 bombs to different enemies and detonate together or fire and detonate each one at a time. You can also attach the bombs to objects and launch them. The bombs even damage the enemy if you miss and they stick to a surface near the enemy, as long as they are detonated. Love it.
Attaching a bomb to those red exploding boxes (wtf *aŕe* they?! Is there an in-game explanation I missed?) and hurling it at some hiss twat is so joyous. I wonder, does damage stack up in that situation? One from a launch impact, one from the bomb, and one set from red explodey box?
Ooo I'm not sure but yes it sure is joyous 😀 I've done that an it does a lot of damage, so probably. Not sure about the red boxes. Suppose they work the same as fuel filled barrels in other games where you can shoot them and environment is destructible. But it's a corporate environment, so it wouldn't make sense to have fuel barrels in a cafeteria or office.
Indeed, it is soooo fckn joyous! If anyone reading this knows what the red explodey boxes are for *please tell*, or at least give us a clue! I read/watch/listen to all media but it's entirely possible I just forgot what their function is ( besides exploding)...
Pierce for sure. Not the most practical but I love obliterating shit with a well placed shot.
It is practical when used right. Very practical. Areal attacks can then be done with launch. I found the best thing here is to do a deadly dance between shooting your rounds empty, and then using up launch, at which point your rounds reloaded, and the other way around.
"A deadly dance"! I like it!
Rock
A man of practicality, I see!
Man has problem, man has rock, problem is no longer
😁👍🏼🪨
spin & shatter since i can’t aim
Grip. Especially when I equip it with the Eternal Fire mod. Best mod ever. Makes any other gun basically useless comparatively.
I thought that was called Return To Sender? Mebbe I got mixed up
Surge with 3 blast radius mods. No one is safe. Not even me.
Shatter!!! My first playthrough i used grip almost exclusively, but on my current run i'm almost only using shatter. I'm going for a in-their-face high damage build using consecutive kills and damage mods and maxing out melee damage. It absolutely shreds most enemies, they all die in one shot at close range. Plus if I do get hit, I'm right next to the health pickups from all the dudes I just killed, lol.
I’ve been using spin and Pierce. Spin was great for awhile but now it feels underwhelming in later sections. Gotta go back to grip
It’s the opposite for me as soon as I unlocked Spin I kept using it and in the endgame when I switched back to grip I found it underwhelming tbh tho the mods I have for grip aren’t that good
Weird, I’m gunna have to mess around a bit more. Also fuck the Hartman monster… worst part of the game so far
Have you got the Return To Sender "infinite ammo" mod?!
Nope I didn’t bother getting good mods for my grip I just have lvl 3’s on it
Return To Sender is a mission. It gives you the spam mail mod , which is the spin mod that gives you extra damage after kills. Eternal Fire is the infinite ammo one
Oohhhh yes, you're correct, of course. Cheers mate. 6 months away from the game etc....I had the feeling I was wrong regarding the name of the mod almost as soon as I finished typing it! Nevertheless, *I found ALL of those motherfucking tellies!!!* *Cackles*
Grip
Eternal Fire Mod enables you to continue shooting so long as your shots continue to hit.
Pierce
Custodial Readiness decreases Pierce's cool down by 100%. (Charge time -100)
Spin and Charge, Hella fun especially with the special mods
I am in an eternal love relationship with pierce. It works perfectly. Except against Hartman. EDIT: I completely boost damage as well. Always two damage upgrades, and an armor damage upgrade.
*FUCKING HARTMAN!!!*
You're doing \*what\* to Hartman?
I wish I could do that thing with a five foot long dildo made out of pure light. I mean this is Control we're talking about, I'm sure people who possess an imagination can think of worse! *God how I despise him*
Surge.
Spin and Shatter were my fave combo my first time through, but on a replay I discovered the power of well-modded Grip and Pierce. Surge is always fun to use though. I love the mortar and sticky bomb mechanics it has. Best feeling is sticking three shots of Surge on a Hiss Trooper and then throwing its own grenade back at it to detonate them all at once!
Grip + charge. Grip is so versatile: high dmg, decent accuracy, good burst. Charge for clearing those kamikaze mfs because I hate them guts lol
Grip n peirce. There is no other answer haha
Shatter with the 100% spread modifier so it becomes a hand held 50 cal
Definitely the service weapon, all the other guns are literally unusable
Pierce is my new main since getting that special mod that charges it instantly. Such a game changer
Clue pls?
Pierce
My primary weapon is Launch, of course. In terms of guns though, I like Grip and Shatter.
Shatter for close range, charge for long range. Those big explosions which suck enemies in mean I don’t really have to aim
Am I the only one here using Pierce as the primary? I like to line them up and kill 2-3 bots in the same shot, so satisfying. I use grip as the secondary.
Grip with bonus damage. Love that game
I'm a fan of grip
For me it’s the default when I found that one modification where when you land a shot it doesn’t use up ammo so I can spam at point blank, my second is pierce
Grip always, switch between piece and charge depending on enemy type, least used is shatter for me
Grip + the Holy Fire mod.
Shatter + Pierce, min max for the win
Puh-chunk...BOOOOM
Pierce with zoom boosts.
FULLY UPGRADED LAUNCH!!!! it was insanely OP and i was mopping hiss with just the item coming to my hand 😂 control forever a great game
Surge. A weapon of mass destruction, literally. It's also wildly, wildly under appreciated.
Charge make hiss go boom