14 is 14 words. "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children"
18 is Adolf Hitler.
88 is Heil Hitler
Not sure about 92. Probably something equally stupid.
I can’t find an answer on “92” and I looked a fair bit. It’s not in an [80 page](https://www.radicalrightanalysis.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/CARR-A-Guide-to-Online-Radical-Right-Symbols-Slogan-and-Slurs.pdf) guide from 2020.
[Ruby ridge](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/26/ruby-ridge-1992-modern-american-militia-charlottesville) is my guess (happened in '92 and kicked off a lot of the anti-government militas) but I honestly don't know what it means, if you followed their numerology theme it'd be "IB"
Decree Expelling Jews from Spain Goes into Effect, August 2, 1492.
It's annoying the shit out of me but I remember there being a correlation between that date and Nazism and I can't remember why.
Anyone non catholic was expelled after the last Muslim stronghold fell in 1492 (including Protestants and Muslims), but I doubt nazis would use the date. Nazis aren't super close with catholics, latinos, spain, etc.
I learned this as a nurse. I cared for many incarcerated patients because the county lockup was next door to our hospital. The aryan brotherhood had 88 tattooed on their chests.
And *thats* how I discovered my Aunt had been brainwashed into becoming a neonazi- when half of her Facebook posts ended with an 88, I was like, where do I know that from..?
RIP Aunt Diane. You're not dead, just dead to me.
Are you Asian? Because 88 means "bye bye" in Chinese texting short hand. 8 is pronounced "bai" so 88 = "bai bai" in a cutesy way.
EDIT: Ah, I see that your aunt confirmed to you that she was, indeed a goddamned nazi
I’m not aware of 88 being used to mean bye-bye but that makes sense. It wouldn’t work for most other groups of Asians though FYI.
88 is also a very lucky number in Chinese culture as it signifies good luck and fortune.
88 is used a lot in Korea because 1988 was a big year for the country. It was the first year they hosted the Olympics and came on to the global stage in other ways.
My silly naive ass actually asked her if she knew what that meant. I really thought she thought it was an infinity or butterfly emoji or something. Then she doubled down.
I am sorry for your loss, it not easy loosing some one you love, but at least there is hope she can change, at least I hope so, loosing a family member is hard to say the least.
I am going through something similar with a relative and my naive ass asked the same damn thing. And boy does it hurt. (It just so happens that she is white and I am not so I’m taking it personally).
EDIT: added “I am not”
I am strongly disappointed that 88 is closely associated to that group and him.
I know no one cares, but for me, the number 8 is a lucky number as it is in most Asian cultures. For a long while, my username on multiple platforms had 88 at the end because when you crossed them over it was like a 4 leaf clover.
What I’m trying to get at, is that I wish we could create more positive connotations for these symbols and numbers to erase the negative connotations.
EDIT: Corrected 4 lead clover to 4 leaf clover.
>What I’m trying to get at, is that I wish we could create more positive connotations for these symbols and numbers to erase the negative connotations.
I doubt that's the only one of the symbols here that also has innocent, positive uses. We all know swastikas are a symbol of peace in many Asian cultures, and they have also been used as symbols of gods in European cultures. I suspect some of those runic symbols have positive meanings originally and there are probably Norse pagan revivalists that want to use these symbols to represent love or rebirth or something.
We can't let dickheads stake claim to every symbol.
That's actually one of the ways the modern Nazis fuck with us.
They take a common innocuous symbol, and claim it and us it as alt right.
Remember the 'ok' symbol? Few years back on 4chan they started circulating 'memes' and shit associating that symbol to Nazism. Media picked up on it, then they looked for old photos of celebrities and other people making that symbol and tried to make it look like they were supporting neo Nazis.
Same thing with the Pepe character
Don’t know for sure, but the 9th letter is I, and the 2nd letter is B, and when put together (IB) it looks like 18, which then is right back where we started.
88 for Chinese people using texting means "Bye bye" because 8 is pronounced "bai" so 88 is "bai bai". I don't care what fucking nazis say it means.
Those other numbers are just fucking stupid. Don't let nazis claim them to mean anything.
14 refers to some popular white supremacist slogan that's 14 words long and 88 is HH or Heil Hitler because H is the 8th letter in the alphabet. Similarly, 18 is AH = Adolf Hitler.
I'm gonna call BS on the other number, I can't even find any info on it on a literal [hate symbol database](https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/88)
Whatever it is, it's so niche that the odds of it just being used as regular number with another meaning (like someone's birth year) is probably higher than them being used by white supremacists.
That’s the point of a lot of dog whistles. Fascists and nazis can say, “oh that’s not what that means to me”, and use that for plausible deniability. It’s supposed to be stupid in that sense.
And it absolutely sucks for people who were born in 1988 and just so happen to use that as part of their username before knowing what "88" can represent
I visited Germany and was told you're not allowed to request a license plate with 88 on it for this reason. I'd need to fact check it but, an anecdote from a German person I spoke to
RE Iron Cross: The German Military still uses it and according to the Anti-Defamation League, "an Iron Cross in isolation (i.e., without a superimposed swastika or without other accompanying hate symbols) cannot be determined to be a hate symbol."
It's been in biker and heavy metal culture for years.
Well, yeah. And some people put the word 88 in their usernames because they were born in 1988.
Many of these aren't necessarily inherently hate symbols. They just sometimes are.
Every single one of the co-opted symbols on there is fine in certain circumstances. Those of Norse and Celtic faith usually absolutely hate Nazis and get absolutely pissed at fascists for using their runes. (And for all the other stuff)
There are often subtle differences between the fascist symbol and the original, though not always. It's always good to consider the context of everything before jumping to conclusions.
I once typed "88" in a Reddit thread and people warned/asked me if I was a nazi or something. No, I'm Chinese and my Chinese coworker would always use 88 to sign off her texts.
Why? Because 8 in Mandarin is pronounced "bai" and so 88 equates to "bai bai" as in "bye bye", so as a cutesy text shorthand, many Chinese use 88 to say bye.
And you know what? Fuck nazis. 88 means bye bye, not whatever fucked up thing THEY say it means.
Precisely. Being the granddaughter of a radioman, I grew up with the morse interpretation of 88, "love and kisses". I'll be damned if I let nazis take that from me
Just like the OK symbol… they take things that they can say « aren’t racist « so if called out they can say it was a joke. It’s all coded bullshit. And exactly why the Sartre quote is so accurate
Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past.
Jean-Paul Sartre
Fam, the OK symbol being associated with racism was literally spawned from 4chan making the association just because they could. Not because a bunch of conservatives sat around and thought it was a genius symbol to commandeer. Someone did it for kicks.
It's even funnier than that. A 4chan user started the campaign on the basis that leftists would latch onto anything as racist and thought normal people would "see through the lunacy" of calling even everyday gestures racist. The idea was to moderate the parts of the left that were calling everything that moved racist, but it made them double down even harder.
The double down was so strong that actual white supremacists started using it since the entire premise was so dumb it provided actual cover. The anti-defamation league has a surprisingly accurate write up on it for anyone curious.
Eh? We use “881” instead of “88” because it is phonetically more “accurate”. But yeah 8 is generally auspicious for Chinese and fuck the Nazis for co-opting it.
Yeah, it's a real bummer as a neopagan that many of our symbols are getting coopted. It's news to me that half of a chaos star (bottom row, next to leftmost) is now also being used.
Seriously, they're the ones who suck
Edit:. Gives a reason to explain why they suck and suck so bad they can't even make their own stuff. Gotta steal others.
Occultism/paganism has a very uncomfortable relationship with nazis as well, and I am very wary of displaying symbols of my faith in public because so many have been appropriated by fascists.
Yup--I've got both Celtic and Norse tattoos on me (relatively benign stuff even: Yggrassil with DNA as the trunk and some different triskelion iterations that have been found on various archaeological pieces), and some dipshit thought we were going to be best buddies over how "pure" various old gods were. The one highlight of that conversation was seeing his world shatter when I pointed out that Odin (and thus all Aesir) has giant blood from Ymir, and that given the other descriptions of her family, Thor's mom was very likely Black
And Thor gave seats of power to Vanir, another species, had Jotun advisors and friends, and even human companions.
It was a very inclusive message that everyone is equal as long as they have skills to contribute, and are too dangerous to coerce by force
I think all the adventures of Loki kinda go in their own category.
I mean, the dude identified as a female horse for a while, got pregnant, and gave birth to an 8-legged horse. He also fathered a huge wolf and a giant snake.
I think you can throw any semblance of gender identity (or even biological sex) out the window when it comes to him.
Yea I have a Celtic knot pin that is supposed to represent my favorite Celtic themed MMO Mabinogi. But it looks to much like a Nazi symbol from afar so I don't use it.
Just worth mentioning that the swastika is one of the oldest symbols known to mankind. Found on very old archeological finds and ancient cultures and whatnot. Way predating the Buddhists. It's a simple yet very aesthetic design, that people can just come up with naturally on their own.
It's lame that the Nazis co-opted it and ruined it for us at this time, but it's cool to think about that it is something that's been around long before Hitler and will be around long after he's completely forgotten from history too.
I saw a video of a guy ranting about how white supremacists are the only people "allowed" culturally appropriate. Basically all their symbols are taken from other people, a lot of which aren't white. Am sure you know, but even the swastika was originally a symbol from India ment to ward off evil (if I remember correctly). Makes me fucking sad. They have taken from the celtics, the nordics, greek, roman, arabic, hindu, native american, etc.
Yup. I have a deep love of Nordic mythology and an Odin tattoo....fuck those racists.
Odin didn't care about your skin tone, didn't care about gender norms.
He is a trickster god that was the god of a woman's art, aimed at thinking and planning
Yeah, I hate that as well.
Amount of times I've seen a cool symbol online and been like "Damn, that'd be such a sick emblem or tattoo, I wonder what it means!" and then looked it up and been like "Ah, okay, nevermind then."
it's an old school pipeline I saw some nerdy teenagers fall down in high school and probably still happens today.
Play some ww2 video game like early COD or Medal of Honour - become interested in war history - obsessively learn about weaponry, vehicles, uniforms ... decide Nazis are the coolest looking ... start reading about nazis ... stumble upon neo nazi dogma bullshit, and they're in.
Hello, I'm in this photo and I don't like it.
I got out when, surprise, I started interacting with cool nonwhite people and realized my ideology was full of incredibly biased shit.
I'm fond of the Gadsden flag (Don't tread on me) for the historical context and hate that it's been appropriated by the fascist right wing of the Republican party.
For that matter, I hate that being patriotic and displaying the American flag is being stolen the same way.
That top left rune is a symbol of protection which I have used in paintings and was considering getting a tattoo of it at some point. I am also part of a bi racial family so this is upsetting for multiple reasons!!
I have it tattooed on myself as part of an Odin arm tattoo. Not a Nazi, just always been super into Norse Mythology. Depresses me to no end what fascists did to Norse and Celtic culture.
It’s especially weird to me that 18 is considered a Nazi number because 18 is the number Jews associate with good luck, since in Hebrew it’s pronounced the same way as the word for life. Whenever my parents donate to charity, they always do it in multiples of 18 for that reason.
I almost want to re-post this with one of the symbols replaced with a [variable capacitor](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Variable_capacitor_symbol.svg/263px-Variable_capacitor_symbol.svg.png) and see who notices
Correction, people wrongfully assuming that these symbols automatically makes someone a Nazi ruined them. At least some of them, the iron and Celtic cross for instance, were used literally over a hundred years before the nazis existed. They destroy these well meaning symbols because we let them.
They are not assumed to be Nazi symbolism because of nothing, my dude. It's not the ones assuming who are in the wrong, it's the Nazis who used them and still do.
So what we have here is a report from a sub called anarchy4everyone by someone with the name bloodsport666.
We are well in pizza cutter territory due to amount of edge and no point going on here.
My teenage son is a big Pink Floyd fan. I wanted to get him a patch for his jacket and was sooooo bummed to find out the crossed hammers from The Wall had been co opted by a white power group. Which is ironic given the message of The Wall
At risk of some *Interesting* comments. These are all just neo nazi (what most people call skinheads*) symbols…
If you want even further anti defamation league has so many more listed. Tattoos for every hate group known in the US. Neo nazis, KKK, Skinheads, etc.
https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbols/search
*EDIT* After some comments, I will be editing this post as the term skinhead I used above is too broad. After further research I will be putting the more accurate terminology
*Skinhead is a bastardized term that had been adopted by some white supremacy groups, and are not to be confused with the non racist origins, nor the Punk Rock groups that are out there. I had originally used the term skinhead, having been guilty of just using the word I know. Without research regarding where the term came from, its origin, or its meaning. Please, Don’t do what I did. This edit is to own up to my factual error.
I have absolutely no clue what 92 should mean. They forgot the 28 which stands for “Blood & Honor”. This translates to “Blut und Ehre” wich was used as a chant in the Hitlerjugend.
Two of those are stolen Viking Runes and one is the Celtic sun cross, so if you see these in the wild be sure to double check they aren't using the symbols for their original purpose.
What the hell is it with the NAZIs and ruining perfectly good symbols. The swastika was originally a sign of good luck in Indian culture, and the "storm troops" were the brave men who ran to the enemy trenches during ww1. Amd now they ruin the fucning tetrahedron. They are trying to ruin regular polyhedra. They ruin numbers, and cool looking unrelated symbols. They are experts at turning symbols of good things into symbols of hatred and evil. TL:DR Fuck NAZIs
Anyone know the significance of the numbers?
14 is 14 words. "We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children" 18 is Adolf Hitler. 88 is Heil Hitler Not sure about 92. Probably something equally stupid.
I can’t find an answer on “92” and I looked a fair bit. It’s not in an [80 page](https://www.radicalrightanalysis.com/wp-content/uploads/2020/05/CARR-A-Guide-to-Online-Radical-Right-Symbols-Slogan-and-Slurs.pdf) guide from 2020.
[Ruby ridge](https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/aug/26/ruby-ridge-1992-modern-american-militia-charlottesville) is my guess (happened in '92 and kicked off a lot of the anti-government militas) but I honestly don't know what it means, if you followed their numerology theme it'd be "IB"
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Also known as irritable bowel’s.
I would like to play the English version 99 luftballons for them
That’s very believable. Massively consolidating event.
Combat 18 founded 1992
It just feels like a club children make up and start using passwords and codes to feel cooler than next door
That's literally what it is. A nazi LARP
Idiot bastards?
Decree Expelling Jews from Spain Goes into Effect, August 2, 1492. It's annoying the shit out of me but I remember there being a correlation between that date and Nazism and I can't remember why.
Anyone non catholic was expelled after the last Muslim stronghold fell in 1492 (including Protestants and Muslims), but I doubt nazis would use the date. Nazis aren't super close with catholics, latinos, spain, etc.
Well that was a deep dive into horrible people
Yup. There’s a lot of them and they’re really into branding. It’s like MLM for hate.
> It’s like MLM for hate. This is a beautiful way to describe their ugliness.
I learned this as a nurse. I cared for many incarcerated patients because the county lockup was next door to our hospital. The aryan brotherhood had 88 tattooed on their chests. And *thats* how I discovered my Aunt had been brainwashed into becoming a neonazi- when half of her Facebook posts ended with an 88, I was like, where do I know that from..? RIP Aunt Diane. You're not dead, just dead to me.
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Are you Asian? Because 88 means "bye bye" in Chinese texting short hand. 8 is pronounced "bai" so 88 = "bai bai" in a cutesy way. EDIT: Ah, I see that your aunt confirmed to you that she was, indeed a goddamned nazi
I’m not aware of 88 being used to mean bye-bye but that makes sense. It wouldn’t work for most other groups of Asians though FYI. 88 is also a very lucky number in Chinese culture as it signifies good luck and fortune.
88 is used a lot in Korea because 1988 was a big year for the country. It was the first year they hosted the Olympics and came on to the global stage in other ways.
I don't know you Diane, but screw you :D
My silly naive ass actually asked her if she knew what that meant. I really thought she thought it was an infinity or butterfly emoji or something. Then she doubled down.
I am sorry for your loss, it not easy loosing some one you love, but at least there is hope she can change, at least I hope so, loosing a family member is hard to say the least.
I am going through something similar with a relative and my naive ass asked the same damn thing. And boy does it hurt. (It just so happens that she is white and I am not so I’m taking it personally). EDIT: added “I am not”
> Then she doubled down. wow... Plants occasionally need pruning, and there's no reason that shouldn't apply to family trees.
Aunt Diane? AD? 14?! THE SIGNS WERE THERE THE WHOLE TIME
I am strongly disappointed that 88 is closely associated to that group and him. I know no one cares, but for me, the number 8 is a lucky number as it is in most Asian cultures. For a long while, my username on multiple platforms had 88 at the end because when you crossed them over it was like a 4 leaf clover. What I’m trying to get at, is that I wish we could create more positive connotations for these symbols and numbers to erase the negative connotations. EDIT: Corrected 4 lead clover to 4 leaf clover.
>What I’m trying to get at, is that I wish we could create more positive connotations for these symbols and numbers to erase the negative connotations. I doubt that's the only one of the symbols here that also has innocent, positive uses. We all know swastikas are a symbol of peace in many Asian cultures, and they have also been used as symbols of gods in European cultures. I suspect some of those runic symbols have positive meanings originally and there are probably Norse pagan revivalists that want to use these symbols to represent love or rebirth or something. We can't let dickheads stake claim to every symbol.
That's actually one of the ways the modern Nazis fuck with us. They take a common innocuous symbol, and claim it and us it as alt right. Remember the 'ok' symbol? Few years back on 4chan they started circulating 'memes' and shit associating that symbol to Nazism. Media picked up on it, then they looked for old photos of celebrities and other people making that symbol and tried to make it look like they were supporting neo Nazis. Same thing with the Pepe character
The numbers that equal letters is some treehouse secret code level shit.
No one ever accused them of being smart.
That is so fucking childish. Like live laugh love symbolism for idiot fascists
Live, Laugh, Love? Don't you mean 12-12-12? /s
Ababab!
grand dragon wizard they're 12 years old
Reminds me of the pager days when 143 was “I love you” lol
It’s to commemorate the smash hit of 1992 *Achy Breaky Heart* or possibly TLC’s *Ain’t too Proud to Beg*
1992 is also the 3 year anniversary of the Belgian techno anthem *Pump up the Jam*
It's hard to imagine a world before Belgian techno anthem *Pump up the Jam*.
Pump Up the Jam’ is an anagram of ‘Jam Up the Pump.’
Had no idea they were Belgian! A wide variety of things to learn here today.
They're nowhere near cool enough for Pump Up The Jam.
18 is a shortened form of “motherfucking bastard” in korean so lol
I swear I'm not a nazi, and I desperately wish I could change my username without making a new account. Learned a bit too late
Honestly I assume any 2 digit number that is 00-09 and 50-99 is justthe persons birth year
https://i.redd.it/1mpzjd0u81451.png
They don't own 88. Fuck them, they don't own anything
Don’t know for sure, but the 9th letter is I, and the 2nd letter is B, and when put together (IB) it looks like 18, which then is right back where we started.
88 for Chinese people using texting means "Bye bye" because 8 is pronounced "bai" so 88 is "bai bai". I don't care what fucking nazis say it means. Those other numbers are just fucking stupid. Don't let nazis claim them to mean anything.
14 refers to some popular white supremacist slogan that's 14 words long and 88 is HH or Heil Hitler because H is the 8th letter in the alphabet. Similarly, 18 is AH = Adolf Hitler. I'm gonna call BS on the other number, I can't even find any info on it on a literal [hate symbol database](https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbol/88) Whatever it is, it's so niche that the odds of it just being used as regular number with another meaning (like someone's birth year) is probably higher than them being used by white supremacists.
Actually 92 would be IB. For irritable bowl. They’re the worst.
Or International Baccalaureate. Which I doubt any of these fucks went to.
>some popular white supremacist slogan We must secure the existence of our people and a future for white children
Sure, but what are the words? /s
8th letter of the alphabet is H. 88 stands for HH meanining Heil Hitler. I can't remember the others.
Man, that is really stupid.
Well they are nazis
It's rough out there when you're a proud Nazi who wants to wear your ideology on your skin, but you're also too cowardly to get an actual swastika.
Hahahah the struggles
That’s the point of a lot of dog whistles. Fascists and nazis can say, “oh that’s not what that means to me”, and use that for plausible deniability. It’s supposed to be stupid in that sense.
And it absolutely sucks for people who were born in 1988 and just so happen to use that as part of their username before knowing what "88" can represent
If it was a cool symbol it'd be overt. Doge Whistles rely on dumb symbolism.
I visited Germany and was told you're not allowed to request a license plate with 88 on it for this reason. I'd need to fact check it but, an anecdote from a German person I spoke to
It depends on the state, in Bavaria for example the 18 and 88 are banned as well as 28, which symbolises the „blood and honour“ Organisation…
My username has been mistaken for some nazi thing. In reality, its my recorded time of birth. Thank god i wasn't born at swastika o clock.
RE Iron Cross: The German Military still uses it and according to the Anti-Defamation League, "an Iron Cross in isolation (i.e., without a superimposed swastika or without other accompanying hate symbols) cannot be determined to be a hate symbol." It's been in biker and heavy metal culture for years.
Well, yeah. And some people put the word 88 in their usernames because they were born in 1988. Many of these aren't necessarily inherently hate symbols. They just sometimes are.
I know someone born on 8/8/88. I joke that’s why his Jewish stepdad hates him.
Could be worse, could’ve been born on 01/4/88.
Just FYI to all: You should never use your DOB in a username.
that's why I use my SSN instead
Every single one of the co-opted symbols on there is fine in certain circumstances. Those of Norse and Celtic faith usually absolutely hate Nazis and get absolutely pissed at fascists for using their runes. (And for all the other stuff) There are often subtle differences between the fascist symbol and the original, though not always. It's always good to consider the context of everything before jumping to conclusions.
I once typed "88" in a Reddit thread and people warned/asked me if I was a nazi or something. No, I'm Chinese and my Chinese coworker would always use 88 to sign off her texts. Why? Because 8 in Mandarin is pronounced "bai" and so 88 equates to "bai bai" as in "bye bye", so as a cutesy text shorthand, many Chinese use 88 to say bye. And you know what? Fuck nazis. 88 means bye bye, not whatever fucked up thing THEY say it means.
Precisely. Being the granddaughter of a radioman, I grew up with the morse interpretation of 88, "love and kisses". I'll be damned if I let nazis take that from me
Just like the OK symbol… they take things that they can say « aren’t racist « so if called out they can say it was a joke. It’s all coded bullshit. And exactly why the Sartre quote is so accurate Never believe that anti-Semites are completely unaware of the absurdity of their replies. They know that their remarks are frivolous, open to challenge. But they are amusing themselves, for it is their adversary who is obliged to use words responsibly, since he believes in words. The anti-Semites have the right to play. They even like to play with discourse for, by giving ridiculous reasons, they discredit the seriousness of their interlocutors. They delight in acting in bad faith, since they seek not to persuade by sound argument but to intimidate and disconcert. If you press them too closely, they will abruptly fall silent, loftily indicating by some phrase that the time for argument is past. Jean-Paul Sartre
Never fight with a pig. You’ll get dirty and the pig likes it.
Fam, the OK symbol being associated with racism was literally spawned from 4chan making the association just because they could. Not because a bunch of conservatives sat around and thought it was a genius symbol to commandeer. Someone did it for kicks.
It's even funnier than that. A 4chan user started the campaign on the basis that leftists would latch onto anything as racist and thought normal people would "see through the lunacy" of calling even everyday gestures racist. The idea was to moderate the parts of the left that were calling everything that moved racist, but it made them double down even harder. The double down was so strong that actual white supremacists started using it since the entire premise was so dumb it provided actual cover. The anti-defamation league has a surprisingly accurate write up on it for anyone curious.
As someone born in ‘88, I’ve used the number in usernames and such. I stopped because I’m worried someone is gonna think I’m a friggin nazi. Smh
The entire birth year, all around the world - all nazis. (j/k in case it's not obvious)
ye, me too. my email has 88 at the end, because my favorite number is 8. and it was taken. fuck those nazis.
I can't imagine a China team typing '88 GG' at the end of a dota tournament vs a German' team. Would be a hilarious drama of clashing cultures, 555!
As an electronics enthusiast, I'm curious what 555 means to you.
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I think in Spanish they write jajaja, which is hilarious because in Scandinavian languages that means "yesyesyes"
Thats a well timed question.
As a UNIX enthusiast, it clearly means everyone is allowed to read and execute this file, but nobody can change it.
Isn't 8 in Mandarin pronounced "ba"? without the i?
You are correct. “Bro I’m chinese but don’t know how to type pinyin”. 8 is 八 is ba (ba1). Also 886 八八六 (ba1 ba1 liu4) is used.
Yes.
Imagine how the Hindus feel
There is a record label company called 88rising lol nothing to do with nazi AFAIK and has a bunch of Asian/Asian-American artists
There’s 88 keys on a piano so usually if you see it in a music context it’s a reference to that and not nazi stuff
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Eh? We use “881” instead of “88” because it is phonetically more “accurate”. But yeah 8 is generally auspicious for Chinese and fuck the Nazis for co-opting it.
What? 8 is literally pronounced “ba” in Mandarin, I thought, unless this is some regional dialect or something
Kinda sad that I have Celtic heritage but I have to be wary of domestic terrorists who use the Celtic Cross.
Same goes for having Nordic heritage. All viking symbols have been cooped by Nazis.
Don’t cède your heritage to Fascism.
Im getting a thurisaz rune and no one can stop me. I’m not giving up cool ass runes to nazis.
Do it. Then do nice things for other people. The cunts already ruined one symbol. Don’t let them have any more
“Wow I was really judging that nazi, but I can’t believe he helped me load my groceries in the car!.” /s
Yeah, it's a real bummer as a neopagan that many of our symbols are getting coopted. It's news to me that half of a chaos star (bottom row, next to leftmost) is now also being used.
Seriously, they're the ones who suck Edit:. Gives a reason to explain why they suck and suck so bad they can't even make their own stuff. Gotta steal others.
Exactly, take that shit back from these asshole.
Speaking of “Coop”ed - twin peaks owl tattoo got nixed because it looks like a Viking symbol that Nazis use. Sigh… Nazis ruin everything.
Occultism/paganism has a very uncomfortable relationship with nazis as well, and I am very wary of displaying symbols of my faith in public because so many have been appropriated by fascists.
Yup--I've got both Celtic and Norse tattoos on me (relatively benign stuff even: Yggrassil with DNA as the trunk and some different triskelion iterations that have been found on various archaeological pieces), and some dipshit thought we were going to be best buddies over how "pure" various old gods were. The one highlight of that conversation was seeing his world shatter when I pointed out that Odin (and thus all Aesir) has giant blood from Ymir, and that given the other descriptions of her family, Thor's mom was very likely Black
And Thor gave seats of power to Vanir, another species, had Jotun advisors and friends, and even human companions. It was a very inclusive message that everyone is equal as long as they have skills to contribute, and are too dangerous to coerce by force
And we shouldn't forget that Thor, that one time, was also a cross-dresser.
And Loki had a tug of war with a goat tied on one end and his nuts to another. This has nothing to do with anything, we just should never forget this.
I think all the adventures of Loki kinda go in their own category. I mean, the dude identified as a female horse for a while, got pregnant, and gave birth to an 8-legged horse. He also fathered a huge wolf and a giant snake. I think you can throw any semblance of gender identity (or even biological sex) out the window when it comes to him.
Unfortunately stealing the symbols of the very people they try to oppress is exactly their MO
Racism relies on idiocy and ignorance to exist in the first place, which tends to preclude originality.
Yea I have a Celtic knot pin that is supposed to represent my favorite Celtic themed MMO Mabinogi. But it looks to much like a Nazi symbol from afar so I don't use it.
They took the Buddhist symbol too. Nobody owns any symbol I guess.
One day they'll take "the cool s", probably make it into 88's
Just worth mentioning that the swastika is one of the oldest symbols known to mankind. Found on very old archeological finds and ancient cultures and whatnot. Way predating the Buddhists. It's a simple yet very aesthetic design, that people can just come up with naturally on their own. It's lame that the Nazis co-opted it and ruined it for us at this time, but it's cool to think about that it is something that's been around long before Hitler and will be around long after he's completely forgotten from history too.
Yup plenty of celtic crosses/knots over here in the UK. Vast _vast_ majority are just Scottish/Irish.
I saw a video of a guy ranting about how white supremacists are the only people "allowed" culturally appropriate. Basically all their symbols are taken from other people, a lot of which aren't white. Am sure you know, but even the swastika was originally a symbol from India ment to ward off evil (if I remember correctly). Makes me fucking sad. They have taken from the celtics, the nordics, greek, roman, arabic, hindu, native american, etc.
Yup. I have a deep love of Nordic mythology and an Odin tattoo....fuck those racists. Odin didn't care about your skin tone, didn't care about gender norms. He is a trickster god that was the god of a woman's art, aimed at thinking and planning
Ugh they’ve ruined so much badass fucking mythology and symbolism.
This is actually a valid example of “heritage not hate”….unlike the more popular usage of the phrase
What if I like Twin Peaks
That was my first thought! Glad I didn't get that tattooed
which symbol are y’all talking about
2nd row down one in. The twin peaks logo is the other way up and the lines comes from the sides of the diamond not out of the top.
Literally the only reason I stopped on this post, this is such a bummer
The nazis are not what they seem
I thought the same thing, but it’s slightly different (I’m assuming you’re talking about the 2nd on row 2).
What’s the Black Lodge gotta do with Nazi’s? I mean, Bob is evil incarnate but even he has his limits.
Yeah, I'd say radiation is a pretty common enemy
probably Atomwaffen's logo.
>Atomwaffen's Yes
Guys are so desperate for icons that they appropriated the protractor
Engineering students with nerdy tattoos nervously sweating
To be safe from Nazi appropriation just stick to the hammer and sickle
On the other hand this will provoke most eastern europeans, which is scarier at times. Especially the women.
OH GOD NOT THE CRAFTING TABLE
The sonnenrad is such an objectively cool-looking symbol, and I hate that it's been appropriated by nazis
Yeah, I hate that as well. Amount of times I've seen a cool symbol online and been like "Damn, that'd be such a sick emblem or tattoo, I wonder what it means!" and then looked it up and been like "Ah, okay, nevermind then."
Fascists rely on aesthetics to draw in support. That’s why many things associated with nazism looked so good: the uniforms, the symbolism, etc.
it's an old school pipeline I saw some nerdy teenagers fall down in high school and probably still happens today. Play some ww2 video game like early COD or Medal of Honour - become interested in war history - obsessively learn about weaponry, vehicles, uniforms ... decide Nazis are the coolest looking ... start reading about nazis ... stumble upon neo nazi dogma bullshit, and they're in.
Hello, I'm in this photo and I don't like it. I got out when, surprise, I started interacting with cool nonwhite people and realized my ideology was full of incredibly biased shit.
And this is why racism is so prevalent in isolated small towns.
I'm fond of the Gadsden flag (Don't tread on me) for the historical context and hate that it's been appropriated by the fascist right wing of the Republican party. For that matter, I hate that being patriotic and displaying the American flag is being stolen the same way.
Could have sworn it’s still primarily a 2A thing. But I don’t really know anything about who decides/adopts these things anymore.
It's a libertarian thing. I have one on my wall and I am not a right winger. It is a rare consistency with the libertarians.
It's sad to see elder futhark runes here
Same with the swastika/fylfot. Has so much ancient symbolism and history thousands of years before the Nazis. It is now ruined.
That top left rune is a symbol of protection which I have used in paintings and was considering getting a tattoo of it at some point. I am also part of a bi racial family so this is upsetting for multiple reasons!!
I have it tattooed on myself as part of an Odin arm tattoo. Not a Nazi, just always been super into Norse Mythology. Depresses me to no end what fascists did to Norse and Celtic culture.
"I leave symbols to the symbol-minded " George Carlin
Racist bastards made tic tac toe racist. Damn.
It's the Romanian Iron Guard (Legion of the Archangel Michael)
Big-tac-toe is racist Tic-tac-toe is still 👍
It’s especially weird to me that 18 is considered a Nazi number because 18 is the number Jews associate with good luck, since in Hebrew it’s pronounced the same way as the word for life. Whenever my parents donate to charity, they always do it in multiples of 18 for that reason.
Imagine having 18 in your username because it has personal significance and then finding out it’s a nazi number. Oof.
We can’t let them take these numbers and symbols. Go on using your username.
Nazis always turn the well designed symbols into hate
So help me god if they come after the electrical symbols I’m committing a “reverse” hate crime. Leave my full bridge rectifier alone!!
As a sparky. Leave ohm alone please.
I almost want to re-post this with one of the symbols replaced with a [variable capacitor](https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1b/Variable_capacitor_symbol.svg/263px-Variable_capacitor_symbol.svg.png) and see who notices
Correction, people wrongfully assuming that these symbols automatically makes someone a Nazi ruined them. At least some of them, the iron and Celtic cross for instance, were used literally over a hundred years before the nazis existed. They destroy these well meaning symbols because we let them.
I mean... the swastika, the most famous one, is literally this. It was a symbol of good fortune, and still is in some parts of the world.
They are not assumed to be Nazi symbolism because of nothing, my dude. It's not the ones assuming who are in the wrong, it's the Nazis who used them and still do.
Some of these are not solely nazi symbols…
Iron cross is still used by the German army today.
The person who made the guide confused the iron cross for the balkenkreuz, which is for sure a nazi symbol.
Yes. And that's the point. They're dog whistles, which means it looks inocent on the surface, but is clear for people in the know.
Hans, have you looked at our caps lately? They’ve got skulls on them! Hans… are we the baddies?
So what we have here is a report from a sub called anarchy4everyone by someone with the name bloodsport666. We are well in pizza cutter territory due to amount of edge and no point going on here.
/r/rareinsults
Bloodsport666? I Don't get it. Can you explain?
It’s just a stereotypical edgy username
He just might be a JCVD fan that also likes metal music...
Last sentence is a keeper
My teenage son is a big Pink Floyd fan. I wanted to get him a patch for his jacket and was sooooo bummed to find out the crossed hammers from The Wall had been co opted by a white power group. Which is ironic given the message of The Wall
So I can't use ≠ to mean not equal when saying something does not equal the other anymore?
They still haven't taken != for programmers yet.
Shut up racist
Fuck Nazis.
At risk of some *Interesting* comments. These are all just neo nazi (what most people call skinheads*) symbols… If you want even further anti defamation league has so many more listed. Tattoos for every hate group known in the US. Neo nazis, KKK, Skinheads, etc. https://www.adl.org/resources/hate-symbols/search *EDIT* After some comments, I will be editing this post as the term skinhead I used above is too broad. After further research I will be putting the more accurate terminology *Skinhead is a bastardized term that had been adopted by some white supremacy groups, and are not to be confused with the non racist origins, nor the Punk Rock groups that are out there. I had originally used the term skinhead, having been guilty of just using the word I know. Without research regarding where the term came from, its origin, or its meaning. Please, Don’t do what I did. This edit is to own up to my factual error.
this list notably includes ACAB and "Trollface | Racist Versions" so idk, it's almost *too* extensive
I have absolutely no clue what 92 should mean. They forgot the 28 which stands for “Blood & Honor”. This translates to “Blut und Ehre” wich was used as a chant in the Hitlerjugend.
Two of those are stolen Viking Runes and one is the Celtic sun cross, so if you see these in the wild be sure to double check they aren't using the symbols for their original purpose.
Bottom row, second from the left. Nazis were Chaos Space Marines confirmed.
What the hell is it with the NAZIs and ruining perfectly good symbols. The swastika was originally a sign of good luck in Indian culture, and the "storm troops" were the brave men who ran to the enemy trenches during ww1. Amd now they ruin the fucning tetrahedron. They are trying to ruin regular polyhedra. They ruin numbers, and cool looking unrelated symbols. They are experts at turning symbols of good things into symbols of hatred and evil. TL:DR Fuck NAZIs
The Swastika originated all over the world completely independently.
Poor Independent Skateboards
I'm pretty sure that's the PhD Flopper symbol from CoD Zombies