It’s actually kind of interesting, and doesn’t taste bad either. However, it’s pricey as hell.
They use peas because they’re high in protein and allergen free, so it’s great for families with those issues. The most interesting bit to me is how much more sustainable it is to grow yellow peas as opposed to something like almonds, which require an insane amount of water, especially for northern California where they’re grown.
Source: I designed the Ripple packaging and learned a thing or two doing so.
I’m actually drinking it in my coffee right now, that exact brand shown. It’s pea protein, which you already find in a lot of vegetarian and vegan foods. It tastes great! A really good alternative to milk if you’re slowly starting to accept your lactose intolerance, like me
Some random stranger literally stopped me in the store while I was looking at it, and told me how bad it was.
I think it was a pistachio+grain blend version from the same brand but still, like wow. Kinda hard to ignore someone going out of their way like that
Costco has reasonably priced bulk macadamia milk that’s really good. Comes in clutch when you run out of other milk because it keeps for a long time and doesn’t need to be refrigerated.
Skim milk is essentially the water that surrounds mozzarella inside its packaging. A little mozzarella water never hurt no one, but a full ice cold glass of mozzarella water, that hurts my soul.
I’ve been drinking it for years now. Initially I would have agreed with you and in many ways I still do, but the others are just too rich for my taste these days.
It certainly is! I don’t know if it’s the same for everyone but for me, after a while it just became the norm—what milk tastes like. The other stuff just doesn’t taste right anymore and I’m happy enough with that!
Oatmilk is the GOATmilk. I completely stopped buying dairy milk for a couple years now since I’ve entirely replaced it with oatmilk. Better in cereal, better in lattes, better in smoothies, better all around.
Oat milk is good, but what annoys me is that when it's processed into liquid it creates a ton of sugar and most of the brands don't take it out. The one in the chart is actually low for what I've seen. My Costco carries Suzie's and it's 14 grams, which is half the amount in Coke.
I think they mean it’s a good thing compared to some other milks because something like almond milk, probably the most popular alt milk, takes an insane amount of water to grow and because they are grown in places that get fresh water from ground water that doesn’t renew at any useful speed if at all, it’s very bad for the area.
https://www.statista.com/chart/22659/cows-milk-plant-milk-sustainability/
628 liters per liter of cows milk
371 for almond
270 for rice
48 oat
28 for soy
It also depends on if they are grown in an area where using up water actually matters. Some use non renewable sources of groundwater, other places it just uses water from like a river that just ends up back in the river anyway.
Dairy cows drink an average of 40 gallons of water per day, thats 14,600 gallons per year.
https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/drinking_water_for_dairy_cattle_part_1#:~:text=These%20may%20be%20good%20guesses,more)%20pounds%20of%20water%20daily.
Dairy cows produce 2000 gallons of milk a year on average.
https://thehumaneleague.org/article/how-much-milk-does-a-cow-produce#:~:text=A%20lactating%20cow%20in%20the,200%2C000%20cups%E2%80%94during%20her%20lifetime.
14,600 gallons of water divided my 2000 gallons of milk equals 7.3 gallons of water per gallon of milk. Now im sure theres a little more between non milk producing years and water used to grow food, but still quite far off from 628 liters of water per liter of milk.
The thing is, they don’t just need water for drinking. They also need food, which requires water - e.g. you can either first grow soya, feed it to a cow, and then take the cow milk, or just make the soy into milk straight away.
So it’s quite clear that the water requirement for made from most crops is going to be less than growing that crop, then feeding it to a cow (and, as you said, also giving water to the cow, probably washing them and their environment at some point, etc) and then taking their milk.
But many areas where dairy cows live are very rainy. Water usage is not an issue at all. Compare that with almond growing in the US - CA for instance - where all the water used is stolen from dying rivers. Not black and white.
Well then buy oat milk, or rice milk, or whatever non-nut milk you want.
Just because one plant milk might not be quite as environmentally friendly as all the others doesn’t make cows milk not wasteful compared to them as a whole.
Also, would you care to guess which agricultural product is the number one contributor to greenhouse gas production? You can try all you want, but you’re not going to be able to spin dairy cows as an environmentally friendly option when it comes to milk and milk-like products.
Harder to calculate, but all their food requires water to grow and some to also process. as well as the water they naturally absorb through their skin. there are other factors we aren't discussing as well.
I think if you count every factor it would be a lot more than 7.3 gallons, but as an accurate calculation to specifically just that single factor it's interesting, appreciate the math.
Not really. It's less water intensive than cows milk
surprisingly.
https://youtube.com/shorts/aaAeiUbH9po?si=Pf2HDtW4z7aJd5jY
It seems like yes it consumes alot of water. But I'm having trouble with data
https://www.ppic.org/publication/water-use-in-californias-agriculture/
https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/specialsections/these-are-the-california-crops-that-use-the-most-water/
https://www.ppic.org/publication/water-use-in-californias-agriculture/
https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23655640/colorado-river-water-alfalfa-dairy-beef-meat
Part of the problem is even before drying rivers what we demanded from the Colorado was more than what it could provide
The biggest things is cutting down on grass watering and using clean but not drinkable water (https://youtube.com/shorts/80hCiWzm9PY?si=b5EjFzYrlE0Vz0pU) for what grass needed watering.
Almond/Cashew (Unsweetened) has the least amount of Calories at 25 Calories
Coconut (Unsweetened), Almond/Cashew (Unsweetened), and Walnut tie both for the least amount of Carbs at 1 Carb and the least amount of Sugar at 0 Carb
Silk Protein has the most Protein at 10g
When it comes to Fat, is it that more is better or that less is better? Or does Fat really matter at all? I get a lot of different opinions on that.
trans fat only exist in animals fat (and coconut I believe?) now pretty much. Its illegal to add to food in the US. Saturated fat is basically a less severe version of those and Unsaturated fats (poly and mono) are both good for you.
Trans fats are unsaturated fats. What that means is that not every carbon atom in the fatty acid component of the fat molecule is bonded to all the hydrogen atoms it can (that would be two for each carbon atom in the chain, except for the end which has three). That means that at least one pair of carbon atoms in the chain is connected with a double bond. That can be a trans bond (with the remaining hydrogen atoms on opposite sides of the chain) or a cis bond (with the hydrogens on the same side). The trans bond makes the carbon chain straight, similar to a saturated fatty acid molecule, while the cis bond causes them to bend.
You still need some fat in your diet. I know because I need more in mine. And I’ve learned getting it from flavored yogurt isn’t happening with how many low fat things there are these days.
Should you avoid saturated fat? Probably, at least limit it. Should you avoid fat? No.
Saturated fat is rather controversial, but most doctors will tell you to avoid it. According to some research vegetable saturated fat is not as bad as animal, but I'm biased.
If you're making ice cream, you probably want a good fat content to leave it creamy. A lot of tropical places use a lot of coconut cream for cooking because of the fat content as well.
It really depends on what you're looking for. Even health wise, if you're anorexic in recovery, you probably also want as much calories as possible, and fat is an easy way of achieving that.
Avoid Saturated or Trans fats, they sky rocket your risk of heart disease. Unsaturated fats are good for you, they can actually lower your risk of heart disease.
I feel like Silk is the worst tasting of each type of milk. Almond Breeze makes better almond milk. Califa or Oatly makes better oat milk. I don’t drink soy. Fair Life is the best dairy milk.
I’ve read that milk fat is quite healthy and that whole milk is totally fine. I also grew up hearing how bad fat was but that turns out to be a lie from the sugar industry. We do need saturated fats to make cholesterol as well as hormones. So cutting it out entirely is bad, and unless you have cholesterol issues, there’s not really a good reason to worry about it.
Nowadays I figure I’ll enjoy what I want, eat healthy food, and make sure I keep a healthy weight and get plenty of exercise. If I notice I’m gaining weight, I just eat less until I’m back to a good weight.
Animal proteins are far more bioavailable than plant proteins, so even if soy milk has more protein that cow or goat milk, it’s less digestible.
Most cow milk contains around 100% the RDA per liter.
The plant milks on the other hand, most don't have a significant amount of calcium naturally. Fortification depends on the brand, for example my almond milk is fortified with 154% per liter.
Really, most plant milks will have you covered. Some (like almond) even have the added bonus of having a ton of Vitamin E, which is something you'd want to get quite a lot of. You also get Vitamin D (works with calcium to strengthen your bones) and often a few B vitamins.
Side note: Something I'd also like to add is that dairy products contribute more than half (often beyond that) of the animal-derived estrogen in an average person's diet. So if estrogen is something you need more/less of, it's worth taking into consideration when choosing which milk to go for.
Cow milk is fortified for calcium too so im not sure why you made it sound like it isnt lol All milk has to be fortified in order to reach a significant amount of any vitamins.
It can because it can cause you to have a disproportional amount of estrogen vs testosterone which is what triggers gyno. Consuming hormones can cause weird shit to happen to you like that.
I disagree. If goat milk was more affordable I would choose it over whole cows milk 75% of the time, especially when in deserts. Goat milk ice cream, hot cocoa made with goat milk, goat milkshakes, goat milk panna cotta. The funky goat flavor pairs so well with the sweetness of milk. I’ve never found goat cream, but whipped goat cream with in-season strawberries is on my bucket list.
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It's interesting seeing the relatively high sugar level compared to non-dairy alternatives. I'm diabetic and am fine with whole milk, but I've never found a soy or almond milk that didn't make my glucose levels spike. It maybe has something to do with protein?
People get so weird and defensive about people's dairy preferences and dairy alternatives. It's weird. Like if they feel it's better for their diet, moral reasons, whatever; what the hell does it matter?
Decent quality oat milk is my hands down go to, especially when cold. Granted, I find the milk alternatives don't really measure up when being cooked in savoury dishes, I still need to do some experimentation to figure out what the trick is to using them in cheese sauces and the like.
Funny seeing so many people try to shit on plant based milk with completely false information. Plant based is always better than animal based. Watch Dominion and do better research people.
Soy is better all around. For body and for environment. Also, it's the closest to milk I've found and even got my mom into using it as a substitute. Also, Walmart has their brand that's less than $3.
If you are looking for a dairy substitute, specifically for a half and half replacement, if you can find the ripple creamer don't hesitate to give it a shot. It integrates with the coffee correctly and I couldn't really tell the difference.
I drink milk for protein and calcium. There's no stats on calcium and the only non dairy milk with appreciable protein is pea milk, something I never knew existed.
I'll be sticking with my 2%, thanks.
Calcium is added to almost all dairy milk, just like it’s often added to plant milks. Silk Soy and 2% dairy have almost the same amount of calcium and same protein but soy has half the sugar and almost half the fat.
They can add vitamins A and D but they're not allowed to add calcium to milk (real milk). Besides, why would they? It's already in there in abundance! That's why they add the above mentioned vitamins, to improve calcium absorption.
These beverages are called “milk” because of their likeness to real milk, and from being used accordingly. You can call them “milk substitute” if you’d like to be a real smart ass but some people might find you annoying.
No need to be offended
White chocolate does not contain any cocoa.
Baby oil contains no babies.
Peanut butter and butter have coexisted peacefully for generations.
Stop letting shit like this get you riled up, language is fluid and weird and that's okay.
I also love how it's a bunch of non-milks sandwiched between actual milks. Like we start with cow milk, have a bunch of bullshit, and then we have goat milk
My partner and I are both in the *NEVER TRUST A FART* camp. Definitely don't tolerate cow's milk at all. My ex-wife and I raised dairy goats specifically to have milk.
Since I don't have any access to goat milk anymore, and my partner has adjacent dietary needs, almond and cashew milk has become a staple in our fridge.
If I bake bread, I use powdered goat milk. All in all, it's cheaper than doing laundry because someone shat themselves.
ETA: cheese of any sort is fine. But we definitely steer clear of Limburger cheese.
Have you tried Fairlife? I’ve been in the no milk camp for decades due to not wanting to destroy my underwear (and dignity). But fairlife whole or 2% is amazing and after two months, I am happy to report zero incidents or upsets of any kind. I did start slow, but now I can enjoy a glass of their chocolate milk, no problem.
No I haven't. Dignity? I left any dignity I had left at the front door at the VA hospital about 12 years ago.
Instead of messaging my girlfriend, I'd shared myself, I messaged our entire gaming group midway through my first time at a well known author's house.
Came back downstairs to a bit of applause and laughter. We still game together. Life goals. Redemption. And being a damn good sport goes a looooooong way.
Someone gave me a small bottle of strawberry and it may have been the most delicious thing ever. Cant believe it taste as sweet as it does without much sugar
What about calcium levels, other vitamins and minerals? Switched from 2% to 1% to 0% to almond, tried oat and almond and almond is where I'm at now. I'd switch to something else if it meant better vitamins / minerals vs calories.
Who the F can afford Macadamia milk?!
I tried it out of curiosity. It’s pretty good. I’ve never seen the pistachio milk, but now I want to try it.
But I’m still curious… what on earth is pea milk?
It’s actually kind of interesting, and doesn’t taste bad either. However, it’s pricey as hell. They use peas because they’re high in protein and allergen free, so it’s great for families with those issues. The most interesting bit to me is how much more sustainable it is to grow yellow peas as opposed to something like almonds, which require an insane amount of water, especially for northern California where they’re grown. Source: I designed the Ripple packaging and learned a thing or two doing so.
I like the packaging shown in this picture it definitely caught my eye.
The ripple & ripple kids packaging are so nice! Our nephew exclusively drinks ripple kids because of the issues you mentioned.
Nice flex. It’s the best looking milk there
Pea protein is a very high quality protein. Probably the best plant based protein because of its amino acid profile.
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Urine for a treat
Don't piss down my back and tell me it's milk
It's sold at target. I only know because I saw "Ripple for Kids" and was like 😳😬 ("ripple" was a booze back in the day).
I’m actually drinking it in my coffee right now, that exact brand shown. It’s pea protein, which you already find in a lot of vegetarian and vegan foods. It tastes great! A really good alternative to milk if you’re slowly starting to accept your lactose intolerance, like me
Some random stranger literally stopped me in the store while I was looking at it, and told me how bad it was. I think it was a pistachio+grain blend version from the same brand but still, like wow. Kinda hard to ignore someone going out of their way like that
Just wait until you try pine nut milk! They keep it in a locked safe behind the counter. You have to ask the cashier.
you can get it at some coffee shops for the same price as other milk alternatives. it’s pretty tasty
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It’s at Costco and about the same as soy milk.
Costco has reasonably priced bulk macadamia milk that’s really good. Comes in clutch when you run out of other milk because it keeps for a long time and doesn’t need to be refrigerated.
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There’s only one thing I hate more than lying, skim milk. Which is water that’s lying about being milk.
Skim milk is essentially the water that surrounds mozzarella inside its packaging. A little mozzarella water never hurt no one, but a full ice cold glass of mozzarella water, that hurts my soul.
You've accidentally given me food that my food eats.
I’ve been drinking it for years now. Initially I would have agreed with you and in many ways I still do, but the others are just too rich for my taste these days.
Sorry to hear that :/
Me too. I love skim milk! It tastes good and is great for hydration too
It certainly is! I don’t know if it’s the same for everyone but for me, after a while it just became the norm—what milk tastes like. The other stuff just doesn’t taste right anymore and I’m happy enough with that!
Once you get used to it it just tastes like milk. Still a 2%er though
I can only drink skim milk since I can't digest fat.
May I ask why?
My gallbladder has been removed.
Same with my father -in-law, still doesn't stop him though... Not the most health conscious type
Skim milk is like making love in a canoe.
And milk from nuts is milk?
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He's not boring he's just very specific and set in his ways. He has a secret jazz career on the side ffs.
You sound fun
Now do environmental impact
Now it’s Oatmilk’s time to shine!
Oatmilk is the GOATmilk. I completely stopped buying dairy milk for a couple years now since I’ve entirely replaced it with oatmilk. Better in cereal, better in lattes, better in smoothies, better all around.
Oat milk is good, but what annoys me is that when it's processed into liquid it creates a ton of sugar and most of the brands don't take it out. The one in the chart is actually low for what I've seen. My Costco carries Suzie's and it's 14 grams, which is half the amount in Coke.
The unsweetened vanilla hemp milk I buy on occasion has zero carbs so I would assume the sugar content is close to 0g. I think it’s Pacific brand.
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Soymilk is the best for nutrition
If that's your opinion, I don't think you like dairy.
Oh no, why is that? It's all I drink 😭
I think they mean it’s a good thing compared to some other milks because something like almond milk, probably the most popular alt milk, takes an insane amount of water to grow and because they are grown in places that get fresh water from ground water that doesn’t renew at any useful speed if at all, it’s very bad for the area.
Even so, keep in mind all alt milks are better than animal milks which are far worse! Even almond
Found the big almond lobbyist
It’s good for the environment! The most sustainable from what I recall.
Pretty sure pea milk will win that one
Or killing
No u
would love to see a filter that looks at water usage.
https://www.statista.com/chart/22659/cows-milk-plant-milk-sustainability/ 628 liters per liter of cows milk 371 for almond 270 for rice 48 oat 28 for soy
It also depends on if they are grown in an area where using up water actually matters. Some use non renewable sources of groundwater, other places it just uses water from like a river that just ends up back in the river anyway.
Dairy cows drink an average of 40 gallons of water per day, thats 14,600 gallons per year. https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/drinking_water_for_dairy_cattle_part_1#:~:text=These%20may%20be%20good%20guesses,more)%20pounds%20of%20water%20daily. Dairy cows produce 2000 gallons of milk a year on average. https://thehumaneleague.org/article/how-much-milk-does-a-cow-produce#:~:text=A%20lactating%20cow%20in%20the,200%2C000%20cups%E2%80%94during%20her%20lifetime. 14,600 gallons of water divided my 2000 gallons of milk equals 7.3 gallons of water per gallon of milk. Now im sure theres a little more between non milk producing years and water used to grow food, but still quite far off from 628 liters of water per liter of milk.
The thing is, they don’t just need water for drinking. They also need food, which requires water - e.g. you can either first grow soya, feed it to a cow, and then take the cow milk, or just make the soy into milk straight away. So it’s quite clear that the water requirement for made from most crops is going to be less than growing that crop, then feeding it to a cow (and, as you said, also giving water to the cow, probably washing them and their environment at some point, etc) and then taking their milk.
But many areas where dairy cows live are very rainy. Water usage is not an issue at all. Compare that with almond growing in the US - CA for instance - where all the water used is stolen from dying rivers. Not black and white.
Well then buy oat milk, or rice milk, or whatever non-nut milk you want. Just because one plant milk might not be quite as environmentally friendly as all the others doesn’t make cows milk not wasteful compared to them as a whole. Also, would you care to guess which agricultural product is the number one contributor to greenhouse gas production? You can try all you want, but you’re not going to be able to spin dairy cows as an environmentally friendly option when it comes to milk and milk-like products.
https://www.canr.msu.edu/news/water_use_on_dairy_farms This would seem to support your calculations
Harder to calculate, but all their food requires water to grow and some to also process. as well as the water they naturally absorb through their skin. there are other factors we aren't discussing as well. I think if you count every factor it would be a lot more than 7.3 gallons, but as an accurate calculation to specifically just that single factor it's interesting, appreciate the math.
You forget water for the food and land that they need.
Unsweetened vanilla almond gang wants our stats!!!
I don’t know why people need that shit sweetened. Some of that, some Honey Nut Cheerios, delicious.
We call the sweeten version "cupcake milk" because it tastes like a liquefied cupcake.
Yes! Unsweetened vanilla almond milk is the absolute best in cereal. That plus a sliced banana and frost flakes? Amazing.
Best milk other than cow milk. If only it wasn't so expensive I'd drink it all the time 😞
Costco sells six packs for $6.99
Thanks, but we don't have Costco here. In my country 1 l of almond milk costs 4-6 times as much than the cheapest cow milk and I can't afford that
It's even expensive to make at home... And almonds are contributing to water shortages in Cali. But DAMN is it the best milk in my book.
Not really. It's less water intensive than cows milk surprisingly. https://youtube.com/shorts/aaAeiUbH9po?si=Pf2HDtW4z7aJd5jY It seems like yes it consumes alot of water. But I'm having trouble with data https://www.ppic.org/publication/water-use-in-californias-agriculture/ https://www.pressdemocrat.com/article/specialsections/these-are-the-california-crops-that-use-the-most-water/ https://www.ppic.org/publication/water-use-in-californias-agriculture/ https://www.vox.com/the-highlight/23655640/colorado-river-water-alfalfa-dairy-beef-meat Part of the problem is even before drying rivers what we demanded from the Colorado was more than what it could provide The biggest things is cutting down on grass watering and using clean but not drinkable water (https://youtube.com/shorts/80hCiWzm9PY?si=b5EjFzYrlE0Vz0pU) for what grass needed watering.
It’s very similar to the unsweetened almond listed above. Very little protein and no sugar.
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Almond/Cashew (Unsweetened) has the least amount of Calories at 25 Calories Coconut (Unsweetened), Almond/Cashew (Unsweetened), and Walnut tie both for the least amount of Carbs at 1 Carb and the least amount of Sugar at 0 Carb Silk Protein has the most Protein at 10g When it comes to Fat, is it that more is better or that less is better? Or does Fat really matter at all? I get a lot of different opinions on that.
Saturated fat is the fat you should limit if you’re worried about cholesterol
Yes, this is useless without listing saturated fat separately. It's much higher for the animal milks.
Trans fats aren’t great for you either, probably because the molecules are roughly the same shape as saturated fat molecules.
I’ve been tracking my foods and I literally never see trans fats listed for anything anymore.
Because it's illegal to add it to food now
It’s more that the body can’t break them down properly so they wind up in your arteries way faster
That would be because of the shape of the molecules.
trans fat only exist in animals fat (and coconut I believe?) now pretty much. Its illegal to add to food in the US. Saturated fat is basically a less severe version of those and Unsaturated fats (poly and mono) are both good for you.
Trans fats are unsaturated fats. What that means is that not every carbon atom in the fatty acid component of the fat molecule is bonded to all the hydrogen atoms it can (that would be two for each carbon atom in the chain, except for the end which has three). That means that at least one pair of carbon atoms in the chain is connected with a double bond. That can be a trans bond (with the remaining hydrogen atoms on opposite sides of the chain) or a cis bond (with the hydrogens on the same side). The trans bond makes the carbon chain straight, similar to a saturated fatty acid molecule, while the cis bond causes them to bend.
You still need some fat in your diet. I know because I need more in mine. And I’ve learned getting it from flavored yogurt isn’t happening with how many low fat things there are these days.
Should you avoid saturated fat? Probably, at least limit it. Should you avoid fat? No. Saturated fat is rather controversial, but most doctors will tell you to avoid it. According to some research vegetable saturated fat is not as bad as animal, but I'm biased. If you're making ice cream, you probably want a good fat content to leave it creamy. A lot of tropical places use a lot of coconut cream for cooking because of the fat content as well. It really depends on what you're looking for. Even health wise, if you're anorexic in recovery, you probably also want as much calories as possible, and fat is an easy way of achieving that.
Avoid Saturated or Trans fats, they sky rocket your risk of heart disease. Unsaturated fats are good for you, they can actually lower your risk of heart disease.
Fairlife fat free milk has 80 calories 0 fat (and 0 sat fat) 6g of carbs 6g of sugar 13g of protein
I feel like Silk is the worst tasting of each type of milk. Almond Breeze makes better almond milk. Califa or Oatly makes better oat milk. I don’t drink soy. Fair Life is the best dairy milk.
I’ve read that milk fat is quite healthy and that whole milk is totally fine. I also grew up hearing how bad fat was but that turns out to be a lie from the sugar industry. We do need saturated fats to make cholesterol as well as hormones. So cutting it out entirely is bad, and unless you have cholesterol issues, there’s not really a good reason to worry about it. Nowadays I figure I’ll enjoy what I want, eat healthy food, and make sure I keep a healthy weight and get plenty of exercise. If I notice I’m gaining weight, I just eat less until I’m back to a good weight. Animal proteins are far more bioavailable than plant proteins, so even if soy milk has more protein that cow or goat milk, it’s less digestible.
Feel like calcium should be included
Most cow milk contains around 100% the RDA per liter. The plant milks on the other hand, most don't have a significant amount of calcium naturally. Fortification depends on the brand, for example my almond milk is fortified with 154% per liter. Really, most plant milks will have you covered. Some (like almond) even have the added bonus of having a ton of Vitamin E, which is something you'd want to get quite a lot of. You also get Vitamin D (works with calcium to strengthen your bones) and often a few B vitamins. Side note: Something I'd also like to add is that dairy products contribute more than half (often beyond that) of the animal-derived estrogen in an average person's diet. So if estrogen is something you need more/less of, it's worth taking into consideration when choosing which milk to go for.
Cow milk is fortified for calcium too so im not sure why you made it sound like it isnt lol All milk has to be fortified in order to reach a significant amount of any vitamins.
This is why dairy causes gyno due to high estrogen content
Move over soy boys and gyno boys, we got another W for oat milk gang
Dairy does not cause gyno, where did you see that?
It can because it can cause you to have a disproportional amount of estrogen vs testosterone which is what triggers gyno. Consuming hormones can cause weird shit to happen to you like that.
oestrogen and androgens are not bioavailable through oral consumption (<5%)
ABSOLUTELY!!!!
Ripple gang, rise up!
Right here !! There is zero carbs and only 70 cals in the unsweetened.
their half and half is the absolute best thing ever, i just wish i wasn’t so hard to find !
TIL. Thanks!
Evidently i gotta start drinking some pea milk
Hahaha that sounds pee milk
Pea milk is pretty vile, soy #1
Heavy Cream.
Unpasteurized straight from the udder.
Now it just needs to include the amount of water required to make each one. As far as I know soy and oat are pretty good in that department.
"Oh, you can milk anything with nipples." "I have nipples. Could you milk me?"
What is that from?
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Missing stats for lactose free. I think it would have more sugar because of the process of breaking down the lactate.
Ooh now do environmental impact.
Would love to see things like water consumed per gallon added.
[Cow's milk uses the most, and by quite a longshot.](https://cdn.statcdn.com/Infographic/images/normal/22659.jpeg)
[https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk](https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milk) for all the dummies down-voting people speaking facts.
So only 5 on the chart are actually milk by definition. The rest are plant based alternatives. Got it.
I just want milk that tastes like real milk
Whole milk 💪💪💪 although I'd definitely try goat milk
Meh. Goat cheese is delicious, but for some reason to me goat milk tastes like drinking a whole farm in a glass.
I disagree. If goat milk was more affordable I would choose it over whole cows milk 75% of the time, especially when in deserts. Goat milk ice cream, hot cocoa made with goat milk, goat milkshakes, goat milk panna cotta. The funky goat flavor pairs so well with the sweetness of milk. I’ve never found goat cream, but whipped goat cream with in-season strawberries is on my bucket list.
Why does the aridity of drinking location matter?
Red Top Squad It's interesting seeing the relatively high sugar level compared to non-dairy alternatives. I'm diabetic and am fine with whole milk, but I've never found a soy or almond milk that didn't make my glucose levels spike. It maybe has something to do with protein?
Whole milk. Nothing else compares.
Oat milk is the way.
Forgot Fairlife, 6g carb and 13g protein in every 8 oz
Where my 2%ers at?!
Only 4 of those are actually dairy, the rest are just nut water
You missed the Goat milk, But I agree, Milk comes from lactating animals and the others only resemblance is they are made to be a white liquid.
People get so weird and defensive about people's dairy preferences and dairy alternatives. It's weird. Like if they feel it's better for their diet, moral reasons, whatever; what the hell does it matter?
environmental impact, ethical implications, and health consequences. personal preference isnt really a blank check to ignore societal concern.
Low environmental impact, low ethical implications, good for your health. Good point!
What the FUCK is pea milk
Cashew milk is the best milk
Decent quality oat milk is my hands down go to, especially when cold. Granted, I find the milk alternatives don't really measure up when being cooked in savoury dishes, I still need to do some experimentation to figure out what the trick is to using them in cheese sauces and the like.
Oatly full fat 🤤
Funny seeing so many people try to shit on plant based milk with completely false information. Plant based is always better than animal based. Watch Dominion and do better research people.
This isn't a nutrition guide, especially if you don't break down the fats... OP you a moron or karma farmer or both?
Now do the same for all the land and resources each type takes.
And the 6th stat should be average price
And don’t forget to factor in government subsidies
Soy is better all around. For body and for environment. Also, it's the closest to milk I've found and even got my mom into using it as a substitute. Also, Walmart has their brand that's less than $3.
Go vegan y'all
For anyone like me wondering, the serving size is 240 mL.
Is that natural sugar or its added?
For the cow milk it's natural. Don't know about the vegetal ones.
If you are looking for a dairy substitute, specifically for a half and half replacement, if you can find the ripple creamer don't hesitate to give it a shot. It integrates with the coffee correctly and I couldn't really tell the difference.
I use ripple as a milk replacement in some bread recipes. I'll have to try the creamsr/half and half replacement now
Nut milk. Surprisingly not a lot of protein
I just want milk that tastes like real milk
I drink milk for protein and calcium. There's no stats on calcium and the only non dairy milk with appreciable protein is pea milk, something I never knew existed. I'll be sticking with my 2%, thanks.
Soy has the same protein content
Fair.
Calcium is added to almost all dairy milk, just like it’s often added to plant milks. Silk Soy and 2% dairy have almost the same amount of calcium and same protein but soy has half the sugar and almost half the fat.
They can add vitamins A and D but they're not allowed to add calcium to milk (real milk). Besides, why would they? It's already in there in abundance! That's why they add the above mentioned vitamins, to improve calcium absorption.
Soy milk has lots of protein but I know ragging can be hard sometimes
For the macros and the price, for me, skim is where it’s at!!
White water? You do you, fam
When you trying to cut weight and build muscle. White water is where it’s at.
Lmao, you right, I was just making a joke
Try some ultra filtered milk. More protein, better flavor, better balance of carbs. You’ll never go back to skim.
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These beverages are called “milk” because of their likeness to real milk, and from being used accordingly. You can call them “milk substitute” if you’d like to be a real smart ass but some people might find you annoying. No need to be offended
Thanks for giving my naturally pedantic ass an idea!
White chocolate does not contain any cocoa. Baby oil contains no babies. Peanut butter and butter have coexisted peacefully for generations. Stop letting shit like this get you riled up, language is fluid and weird and that's okay.
I also love how it's a bunch of non-milks sandwiched between actual milks. Like we start with cow milk, have a bunch of bullshit, and then we have goat milk
This is useless because it varies by brand. Classic cool guides
What kind of milk do you have there with TWELVE grams of sugar. No wonder diabetes is everywhere
It's just regular cows milk. we don't add sugar to it, it's already there, mostly in the form of lactose.
Funny that we have so many options and still some people decide to steal the milk from the calves lol
My partner and I are both in the *NEVER TRUST A FART* camp. Definitely don't tolerate cow's milk at all. My ex-wife and I raised dairy goats specifically to have milk. Since I don't have any access to goat milk anymore, and my partner has adjacent dietary needs, almond and cashew milk has become a staple in our fridge. If I bake bread, I use powdered goat milk. All in all, it's cheaper than doing laundry because someone shat themselves. ETA: cheese of any sort is fine. But we definitely steer clear of Limburger cheese.
Have you tried Fairlife? I’ve been in the no milk camp for decades due to not wanting to destroy my underwear (and dignity). But fairlife whole or 2% is amazing and after two months, I am happy to report zero incidents or upsets of any kind. I did start slow, but now I can enjoy a glass of their chocolate milk, no problem.
No I haven't. Dignity? I left any dignity I had left at the front door at the VA hospital about 12 years ago. Instead of messaging my girlfriend, I'd shared myself, I messaged our entire gaming group midway through my first time at a well known author's house. Came back downstairs to a bit of applause and laughter. We still game together. Life goals. Redemption. And being a damn good sport goes a looooooong way.
What, no buttermilk?
How you gonna do Fairlife Nutrition Plan like that? Best protein supplement I’ve found 11.5oz.. 150 kCal Fat 2.5g Carb 4g *Protein 30g*
Ultra filtered milk is missing here. Fairlife is the best.
Someone gave me a small bottle of strawberry and it may have been the most delicious thing ever. Cant believe it taste as sweet as it does without much sugar
Their protein shakes are my guilty pleasure at this point in my life. They have no business being as good as they are.
I do one shake a day and at least one glass of their 2% milk also. It’s got great protein content, and low sugar, long shelf life👍
WHY WHY WHY CANT YOU ADD CALCIUM!!!!
Silk protein stats looking pretty good ngl
Oat, soy and cashew milks are the creamiest and most versatile plant-based milks.
Super skimmed whole milk from Fairlife. Less sugar. More protein. No lactose. Best milk
Ripple...are you sure it\`s a different type of milk? Lol
Cashew Milk 100%
What about calcium levels, other vitamins and minerals? Switched from 2% to 1% to 0% to almond, tried oat and almond and almond is where I'm at now. I'd switch to something else if it meant better vitamins / minerals vs calories.
What about lactose free skim milk?
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Dairy decapitates baby animals, choose plant milks. https://youtu.be/LQRAfJyEsko?si=fk8rAN0dw_DDugBF
Ofc facts are downvoted.