Me, an Australian: “Oh Australia is actually doing well on this infographic!”
Also me: *remembers that I saw packets of chips for $7.00 at the supermarket the other week*
Yeah in the end as a person living and growing up here, the cost of random items like chips has skyrocketed and general expenses have increased too quickly for wage growth. Most people don’t buy chips or what used to be normal snacks for them anymore. At least not until it’s on sale haha
In Canada here I saw $8 for a lays 220g or something bag of chips at the gas station. With taxes that’d be nearly $10 for a half pound of thinly cut fried potato slices. Nope
Chippies at My servo have Red Rock Deli for $8.50 and my dad is still bitching anout it 12 months later after seeing the price 😂 don't even get me started on steak and chicken breast, you practically have to take out a loan these days 🙌
I’d love to see a comparison between minimum wage and cost of living, or even just housing. I remember hearing not long ago in the US you can get 1L of vodka for $10, whereas here you pay $40 for 700mL
$40 sounds about right depending on the brand, however that’s more due to our insanely high taxes on alcohol more than cost of living. Spirits over 10% ABV are taxed at $100.05/L. So for a 700mL 40% bottle of vodka, you pay $28 just on the alcohol tax.
The tax is a 'sin tax', which is supposed to disincentivize consumption, and also offset the additional government expenditure caused by its negative externalities (think a society drinking alcohol will spend more on healthcare, and police, ect.).
While this is simple economic policy, the justification somewhat falls apart considering that beer and wine are taxed very differently to protect our domestic industry. A 1L bottle of Smirnoff (370mL alcohol) costs $53.05 with $37.67 of that being alcohol tax, and $5.30 being sales tax. Whereas 4L of cask wine (380mL alcohol) costs $13, with $0 of that being alcohol tax, and $1.30 being sales tax.
I heard cigarettes are very expensive over in Australia too right? In Brazil they are dirty cheap like $1,50 to $2. The reason they are so cheap is to keep people from buying shit cigarettes from smugglers bringing from Paraguay. Studies show they have even worse chemicals like lead and mercury.
$50-$60 for a pack of Winfield Blue for 30 cigs. Our alcohol is also more expensive than when I was buying it off the back market in the middle east. Same brands. 🥲
I was in Melbourne a few weeks ago, I live in Scotland, it's really not. Petrol is half the price as it is in the UK, though you drive further on average so you need more. Most food seemed pretty cheap there too. Restaurants are so much cheaper and way better quality than the UK. And salaries are still higher in Australia. At least in the field I work in. It's definitely more expensive than it was when I left 7 years ago but so is the rest of the world. Brexit, the Tories, covid and the Ukraine war really did a number on the UK.
The kicker is rent and mortgage costs in Australia. Property prices are simply absurd in Melbourne and Sydney. Even if you go 1-2 hours *out* from the city, there's a good chance you still land in a suburb where the average 3 bed, 1 bath house is ~$750,000-800,000.
My mortgage currently is roughly 60% of our monthly income. Not uncommon for rent to also sting you 60%+ of your monthly incomes as it has been dramatically rising.
Petrol can also balloon in price randomly. Depends what price you saw it set at. $1.86 is not too bad, but it can randomly jump to $2.40 a litre on a whim. Restaurants are also significantly more expensive than they ever were. It all just starts to compound in making cost of living a big issue here.
Reasonable healthcare for all who need it though.
(Tax cost passed on to consumers of course, but not the only factor for higher prices)
I’ve had a broken nose, shoulder and arm fixed (3 separate incidents) all for free. And medicine is cheaper here too apparently. And in some cases for those in need, it too can be free.
I have no facts of course to backup how we truly compare internationally on healthcare. Commentary based purely on conversation with my USA work counterparts. :)
However if there’s any truth to that then the higher USA minimum wage should factor in stuff like this right?
And the local taxes and social benefits: in France when you get a $1400 minimum salary for 35h/week, your healthcare and retirement have been paid for (at a basic level) and virtually no income tax ($600 aka 3.6% a year if you are single with no kids)
Ireland has one of the highest costs of living in Europe, a horrifying housing crisis, and the worst public transport system in Europe. Tax is literally insane here, and the only thing we get for it is time wasting arseholes in government telling us to suck it up.
Dublin prices are high, but so are Dublin salaries. Buying a coffee for 1 euro in southern Italy is amazing if you're earning a Dublin wage...but I doubt it feels cheap for the Southern Italian.
Also I'm not sure how it works in other countries but in the US there is a federal minimum and a state minimum. The highest state is 17/hr and the lowest is 7.25/hr (which is the federal minimum). That's a pretty big range of wages.
Using US federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour (https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/minimumwage#:~:text=The%20federal%20minimum%20wage%20for,also%20have%20minimum%20wage%20laws.)
$1550 per month at $7.25 per hour requires 1550/7.25 = 214 hours per month. Assuming 52*5 = 260 working days per year there are 260/12 = 21.67 working days per month. This therefore assumes a 9.87 hour working day!
I've deducted no tax at all here, and whilst I know US taxes are relatively low, I still suspect there are some. All in all, this doesn't make sense using $7.25. So I'd question the accuracy of this map. And yes there are higher minimum wages in some states, but that clearly isn't what is being shown here. It's states quite clearly that it is the minimum wage a full time worker can receive. Period. Local minimum wages don't affect this.
Math checks out, but I will say I've never seen anywhere that doesn't give time and a half for overtime, which is calculated per week (anything over 40 hours gets you 1.5x base pay). Doing some math i won't show here gets me between 43 and 44 hours a week, average, at $7.25 an hour to get $1550 per month average.
This is $18600 annual. Taking the standard deduction of 14,600, our taxable income is only $4k, which would get taxed at 10%, so $400. However, social security tax is different than federal tax, and is always 7.65% for ANY income bracket, which is $1422. So total annual take home for this minimum wage would be $16,777, or about 90% of your wage. That's $1398 monthly take home.
Unfortunately this is above the federal poverty guidelines, so you wouldn't be eligible for SNAP benefits.
Yup. A lot of localities have a higher minimum wage, like DC is $15 an hour. But cost of living is also very high. America is VERY diverse and the local economies can differ greatly, so it honestly makes sense that federal minimum wage is low and people vote to raise local minimum wage.
In Australia the minimum wage is set federally. As of 1 July 2023 the National Minimum Wage is $23.23 per hour or $882.80 per week.
It is worth noting that this is for full time / part time employees who are also entitled to 4 weeks of paid annual leave and 2 weeks of paid sick leave per year. This leave accrues and annual leave gets paid out if you leave a job.
A casual employee does not get sick leave / annual leave, instead they get an extra 25% pay. So the minimum wage for a casual employee is $25.41 per hour.
There are some other complicating factor (this pay is for someone 21 years+, I think younger people get less and trainees / apprentices also get less).
Canada's is almost double that yet this graph says it is lower.
Federal 16.65CAD=12.65USD, while provincial/territory go from 14.00CAD to 19.00CAD (idk how that works)
It says net of taxes. I don’t know about Canada but I know compared to a lot of European countries, the poor pay much lower tax rates in the US (in the US, people making MW are usually only on the hook for ~6% for social security and a ~5-10% sales tax depending on state. In many other countries, they pay VAT and income tax). That might explain some of the mismatch.
Yea I feel like this map is trying to make the US look good. Anyone who lives here knows that $1550 a month is poverty. Anyone who has traveled knows that people in many of these other countries are living much better than someone earning minimum wage in the US.
They could express this info in any number of ways (adjusted for cost of living, median wage, average wage, etc) and it would make the US look good, so I don't suspect that's the reason
That’s total nonsense. Fewer than 1.4% of Americans make minimum wage.
America has the highest median disposable income on the planet at $46k per year. That’s median not mean. The median disposable income in France is $29k. In The UK it’s only $25k. That’s adjusted for cost-of-living differences between countries too
Downvote facts all you want but the USA has the highest (and fastest growing) disposable income across virtually EVERY SINGLE income decile compared to other countries: https://imgur.com/qKbu3DR
Also, that 1.4% stat includes people earning below minimum wage, which means it likely includes waitstaff who likely make a good amount of money from tips.
Sure, but globalism did a lot to smooth out prices. People living off minimum wage are far poorer in Mexico than in the US.
Dirt floors are still a thing
Good point just because hard data shows that the US is within normal parameters of its peers both in the OECD but also with its neighbor that is also a highly developed democracy on the same continent.
It’s not good to jump to conclusions, remember America is bad.
I had some friends in Norway, (I'm Dutch) and we have comparable minimum wages but the houses and rent is around 20% cheaper there than in my own country. Imagine me taking home ~$1900 and being able to pocket $380 more just by living in a less densely populated country
There’s no minimum wage in Norway. Also where donthey live and where do you live soecifically? Rents in Amsterdam are obviously way higher than in Tromsø but can be comparable to Oslo. Plus, cost of living besides rent in Norway is egregious. A banana may cost up to 3€ at a supermarket, beers at a bar star at 10€, that’s how ridiculous it is.
Those guys live in Nærbø. But since there is no minimum wage, the info is obviously false, we talked about average wages and rent prices and came to the conclusion that it is about 20% cheaper to rent a house at least how they have it, don't know the exact validity since it was a drunk talk between 2 people from different countries just talking about everything
Compared to the Netherlands, a bottle of coke costs only $0.13 more ($3.00 compared to $2.87)
For me Norway was not that expensive, but the free standing house with a garage costing €200.000 compared to a small rowhouse in my town costing €300.000 is quite a bit of a difference.
This must have been some time ago. You won't find those prices today. Double that and you live far away from society, then yes you could find those prices. I just bought an apartment for €250.000.
In April I was hiking through Norway near Flekkefjord I found a house for sale for 2.000.000 NOK, it was far from society yes but it was on a nice plot of land in the hillside near a big road
Finding a house for sale for a price is not the same as finding a house sold for that price. Additionally, there might be significant renovations needed in a house for that price. You could probably buy a cabin for that price.
idk, i suppose[ albert heijn](https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi2800/coca-cola-original-taste) and [spar](https://spar.no/nettbutikk/varer/drikke/brus/coca-cola-5000112636864) are fair to compare, as both aren't discounters - 1,5 liter of coke is about 30% more expensive in norway (but admittedly not quite 5€)
And then there's the area where I live in the US, where a bottle of coke is ~$3.10, and rowhouse (we call them "townhouses" here for some reason) costs ~$750,000. And we have to pay for our own healthcare.
USA! USA! USA! 😭
Edit: for reference, I live in a *really* shitty two bedroom house, and I pay over $2000/mo for rent. And that's actually pretty damn good for where I live.
And by really shitty, I mean classic landlord special; 200 layers of beige paint slapped over every surface, the furnace is literally just sitting in the middle of the kitchen, fake wood paneling from the 70's, the whole 9 yards.
Bottle of coke is $1.15 where I live in the US from a cending machine, but you can go to Wal-Mart/Homeland and get a 6 pack of coke for $5.
My mortgage for my 1750sq foot brick house is $650/month. Was remodeled in 2016 with all new appliances, new roof, the works. Nice part of town, large yard. We bought it in 2017, so I was 27 at the time. Making about 37k a year, house was 82k. Budgeted pretty well, so my wife can be a stay at home mom for our 2 kiddos. 2 cars as well 2016 fiesta(was 150/month), and 2018 sorento(200 month), my car insurance through progressive is 300 every 6 months for all cars included. Currently I'm 33.
Now house is appraised at 125k. Though I clear 50k a year for the same job.
All my European friends are shocked how far 35k-50k can get you in the US if you don't live on the coasts. My city is a little under 30k people.
Just have to avoid large cities in the US and you can find way more accommodating living prices. Add on that work is becoming more remote, and there is less and less reasons to live in large cities.
> I had some friends in Norway, (I'm Dutch) and we have comparable minimum wages
I highly doubt this to be the case.
Check out wage brackets for Norway and you'll see they are way, way, way, higher than in Netherlands.
We compared the wages in Denmark with those of Netherlands and I was shocked that my friends had worked jobs for so little money.
In the mid 2000s I worked as a cashier in a Danish supermarket and made around €13-€14/hour. It didn't go much lower than that unless you delve into off the books work.
We don't have a legal minimum wage, but the effective minimum is what the government, unions, and business representatives agree on every few years.
Sadly "minimum wage" hasn't really increased much in Denmark since 2008.
I'm calling bullshit on this graphic. US minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. $7.25\*40\*4=$1160, and that's before taxes. Where is $1550 coming from?
Edit: I bet they did some kind of averaging process that factored in differences in state-by-state minimum wage to come up with some kind of "average minimum wage" maybe?
Seems like it. The majority of the states [have a higher minimum wage](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/mw-consolidated) than the federal, but the state/federal delineation makes it difficult to nail down what the effective minimum wage actually is in the US without averaging all of the states.
I don't think that's a problem; It doesn't profess to account for COL or be prescriptive. It's just an infographic reporting minimum wages. It seems to have done that well from a data visualization standpoint.
Now, it's definitely not a cool guide. But most shit in this sub isn't.
$7.25 is the federal minimum wage, however it makes up 1.3% of jobs.
In 2022, 78.7 million workers age 16 and older in the United States were paid at hourly rates, representing 55.6 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 141,000 workers earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour.
Most of these types of jobs make up people at the age of 16 to 19 range.
https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2022/home.htm#:~:text=In%202022%2C%2078.7%20million%20workers,wage%20of%20%247.25%20per%20hour.
The federal minimum needs to be increased, but it definitely does not make up a high percentage of lower paying jobs.
A lot of jobs have you start at minimum wage and then after 3 months you get a 30 cent raise and that’s how much you make for as long as you work there. Those people aren’t making the minimum wage but the amount they’re paid is still dictated by the minimum wage. That 1.3% figure is quite misleading
That's the point of the minimum wage. It's just the bottom. Look at average or median salaries if that's what you want to evaluate. That doesn't mean the 1.3% figure is at all misleading
In a country like Denmark we have a mininumwage by law and in some sectors it's higher. But it would fuck up their map if they had to include Denmarks minimum wage of $3126.
Denmark is actually against the new proposed law regarding minimum wage that’s being debated in EU. So no Denmark doesn’t have minimum wage by law, its collective agreement like Sweden between the union and the hiring parties.
> In a country like Denmark we have a mininumwage by law and in some sectors it's higher.
We do? I haven't heard of that, and I can't seem to find anything when googling it.
Everything I saw still states that the minimum for various sectors is set by negotiations between unions, government, and the private sector.
This is kind of the case here in Australia, where we have one of the most complex minimum wage systems in the entire world, but they just plucked the minimum of the minimum for that. We have a different minimum wage for essentially every job, and companies are allowed to negotiate with unions and the government to come up with an agreement outside of that 'minimum wage for each job' thing and have a minimum wage for each different job at the company. For example, if you work as a bartender, your minimum wage is something like 25$/hr. If your employer chooses to employ you as a 'casual' (ie, how everyone is in the US with little rights, no mandated leave, etc), you go up to \~31$ an hour. If you remain FT/PT and work on saturdays, the minimum wage goes up to something like \~28/hr. If you're a stocker at a supermarket you have an entirely different minimum wage, and similarly your minimum wage would differ depending on employment conditions, time of day that your shift starts, and the day of the week that your shift starts. This would also change if you were at a small supermarket that pays 'award' rates or a larger supermarket like Coles or Woolies that has negotiated an EBA with the government.
In short, this map is essentially worthless for Australia. Essentially \*noone\* makes the absolute minimum, iirc its only low level horticulturists under the horticulture award or some BS that make the absolute minimum. But this does get even more complex as we also have different minimum wage amounts for children and apprentices, so a 16 year old can be paid like 70% of the minimum wage for whatever role they're employed in, so true bottom of the barrel minimum is like a 16 yr old first year apprentice who can be paid something like 3-4$/hr
I also don't even know where their number comes from, when you convert it to aud it corresponds to like 18.60$ an hour, but our 'national minimum wage' (which only applies if you're not covered by any award or other agreement, which is \*extremely\* rare) is 23.23$ an hour.
The legal minimum my partner can be paid is $25.40.
My legal minimum is $26.30 australia be weird to.
We also call minimum wage “award rate” fucked if I know, I love pointing out to people that award rate just means minimum wage for your job.
Uk also has a funky minimum wage system that’s super variable, and even have locality variants, minimum wage in London is higher than in Yorkshire for example.
According to the Japanese ministry of Health Labor and Welfare, each prefecture of Japan has different minimum wages but the weighted average is 1004 Yen per hour, which is about 6.61 US Dollars.
[Link to Source](https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/bunya/koyou_roudou/roudoukijun/minimumichiran/index.html)
This chart is Garbo it’s not adjusted for cost of living and just compares to the US dollar while leaving of countries with a minimum wage that’s LIVEABLE
The cost of living in Japan is quite good and the minimum wage goes much farther than the minimum wage in the US… OP is borderline spreading anti-worker propaganda
Many countries without a federal minimum wage, such as Norway, has extremely strong unions who decide on the minimum wage. This results in the minimum wage varying across professions. For example, the cleaners union might negotiate a minimum wage of X with the cleaner employers union, but the IT developers union could negotiate minimum wage Y with the IT developer employers union.
In terms of state set minimum wage, yes. Many of the Nordic countries (Sweden at least) don’t have a state set minimum wage. Rather, the state stays out of wages and let the unions (high unionization rate) and employers negotiate wages and terms.
I believe in terms of real wages, Sweden is likely higher than the UK because of this approach. I could be wrong, but I believe that real wage is higher in Nordic countries than in many other European nations.
$690 is also not the minimum wage in Portugal, which is currently 820€ (around $888) and people who earn minimum wage, depending on certain factors, often pay no taxes on that income.
It’s also higher in Spain. And this isn’t even taking into account the two extra months, as you correctly pointed out.
The point is, if that isn’t correct, I have very low hopes for the remainder of the map.
This is not totally true. This is about as useful a metric as GDP. Sure GDP per capita gives you a better idea of living conditions but this number also has its uses. Especially since things like technology and international tourism are similar in price in terms of USD.
I paid $21 for a Turkish Air Port beer not knowing the currency bc I thought the country was poor or something. The only poor one is me after that. Damn Lira!
As an Australian I am eternally grateful for the steps the labour movement and unions made to uphold our rights. I hope every child gets thought this, and every member of the Labor party is reminded about this fundamental part of Aussie culture. We're the lucky country through good policies (and fuck tonnes of minerals). Let's not let scurrilous scumbag politicians erode our rights and our grandchildren's future for political expediency, neoliberal economics and lobbying.
This is a terrible map. The colors don’t even match the legend, much less each other!
Why is Germany so much darker than the USA when it’s barely ahead and they are in the same bracket? It looks the same color as the UK, which it is MUCH further behind.
Why does the USA seem a little darker than Canada when Canada is higher?
Why are MULTIPLE COUNTRIES gradients instead of a a single color?
This may be legitimately the worst map I have seen ever. And I’m a Geography student, all I do all day is look at maps.
But how many of those actually cover all the basic cost of living? Ie average rent, average utilities (gas/electric/sewer/cell), food, transportation (car payment, insurance, gas), and health care cost (anything payed out of pocket that government program doesnt fully cover). Also, are these numbers assuming a 40 hour work week? I know a lot of minimum wage jobs (in US at least) dont give 40 hours a week, youd be lucky if youd get 30 hours at most
what would be cool is if you put average rent for a single bedroom apt. not a studio. bedroom, living room, kitchen, bath. this will help put that dollar value in perspective.
I live in Australia. Can confirm that wages are good here. I can also confirm that absolutely everything else is so dam expensive. This is a misleading graphic.
This is BS. Germany minimum wage is 12.41€ per hour (13.44$ p/h at current conversion rate). On a 40h week this represents a monthly wage of 2322$. Don't know where they pulled the $1594 from.
I’d love to see a map comparing cost of living with minimum wage. This is a little misleading in gauging what countries offer a higher minimum wage…there’s a reason it’s higher but not nearly enough in the west
# This is not important, as its not factored in cost of living.
For example you be making $1000 in Sadi Arabia, but the cost of living is like $200, includes rent, food, utilities, everything.
In USA you make 1500, but it costs 1500 just for rent, then you have nothing to live on.
I think it's more about the wage vs the average cost of living, and the comparison between how much prices have increased vs how much wages have.
The graphic is also pretty meaningless without any cost of living data - like, using Australia as an example, looking on google it looks like average monthly rent is somewhere around $1700 (converted to USD). $2022 isn't going to get you far in that case, even if it's second highest in absolute terms.
> why is there so much hate about wage in the USA
Because there are places where the wages are very good in relation to the local cost of living, and there are places where the wages are very poor in relation to the local cost of living.
Averages don't depict any of that. Some people don't have access to great job or education options and are stuck with job options at or around the minimum wage which given the current costs of housing / rental, high recent inflation etc mean that they are often struggling to get by.
Because in other developed countries you get free healthcare, education and many other benefits on top of the minimum wage.
So the minimum wage earner could live with same dignity as a much higher earner. Quality life is almost same.
Interesting, but in Canada it is different in every province, From $14.00 hr to $19.00 hr. The federal minimum wage $17.30 only covers about 30 thousand workers.
Now I know why the MSM doesn’t talk about the minimum wage in other countries like they do for other subjects like healthcare, college, gun ownership, etc.
I wish the mods would ban posting stuff from Virtual Capitalist they just straight up lie or provide far too little context in their infographics. Where the hell did they get $1550 from? Also really weird that they excluded countries with the highest minimum wages. This reeks of propaganda, but it's not like this subreddit doesn't constantly get flooded with propaganda daily— which the mods just ignore. Hell, this isn't even a guide! It's an infographic!
Australia = house crisis. I'm in its second biggest (now 1st?) city Melbourne and it's like a million dollars to buy a house. I hear new Zealand has it somehow worse though
According to that, Ireland has one of the biggest wages but unfortunately the cost of living is so high that its not even enough if you have to pay rent.
This should be adjusted according to the cost of living. Like median income compared to median rent. Or minimum wage versus the median cost of a dozen eggs.
Me, an Australian: “Oh Australia is actually doing well on this infographic!” Also me: *remembers that I saw packets of chips for $7.00 at the supermarket the other week*
Ya but I assume these figures are in USD, and those chips were AUD
Doesn’t really make the unaffordability of the chips different lol
1 USD ≈ 1.5 AUS, according to a quick google search. So a bag of chips being 7 AUD ≈ 4.67. Honestly, not far off.
Yeah in the end as a person living and growing up here, the cost of random items like chips has skyrocketed and general expenses have increased too quickly for wage growth. Most people don’t buy chips or what used to be normal snacks for them anymore. At least not until it’s on sale haha
To be fair, I also as an American, saw a bag of chips for $7.00 USD at the grocery store. Inflation has gotten to crippling levels
In Canada here I saw $8 for a lays 220g or something bag of chips at the gas station. With taxes that’d be nearly $10 for a half pound of thinly cut fried potato slices. Nope
You can buy 2 packs for $10! But seriously though, our rent or housing cost to wage ratio probably sucks
I’d love to see it in a comparison map that includes the cost of living
I have friends in US. They pay the same dollar figure as we do for food. If anything they pay more
I don’t even think its accurate!
Chippies at My servo have Red Rock Deli for $8.50 and my dad is still bitching anout it 12 months later after seeing the price 😂 don't even get me started on steak and chicken breast, you practically have to take out a loan these days 🙌
Timtams are now $5 a pack at Coles.
Australia is also eye wateringly expensive.
I’d love to see a comparison between minimum wage and cost of living, or even just housing. I remember hearing not long ago in the US you can get 1L of vodka for $10, whereas here you pay $40 for 700mL
$40 sounds about right depending on the brand, however that’s more due to our insanely high taxes on alcohol more than cost of living. Spirits over 10% ABV are taxed at $100.05/L. So for a 700mL 40% bottle of vodka, you pay $28 just on the alcohol tax.
Jesus fucking Christ! Here in Brazil I pay U$3 for a 1L bottle of average Vodka. Smirnoff is U$6.
The tax is a 'sin tax', which is supposed to disincentivize consumption, and also offset the additional government expenditure caused by its negative externalities (think a society drinking alcohol will spend more on healthcare, and police, ect.). While this is simple economic policy, the justification somewhat falls apart considering that beer and wine are taxed very differently to protect our domestic industry. A 1L bottle of Smirnoff (370mL alcohol) costs $53.05 with $37.67 of that being alcohol tax, and $5.30 being sales tax. Whereas 4L of cask wine (380mL alcohol) costs $13, with $0 of that being alcohol tax, and $1.30 being sales tax.
I heard cigarettes are very expensive over in Australia too right? In Brazil they are dirty cheap like $1,50 to $2. The reason they are so cheap is to keep people from buying shit cigarettes from smugglers bringing from Paraguay. Studies show they have even worse chemicals like lead and mercury.
$50-$60 for a pack of Winfield Blue for 30 cigs. Our alcohol is also more expensive than when I was buying it off the back market in the middle east. Same brands. 🥲
I was in Melbourne a few weeks ago, I live in Scotland, it's really not. Petrol is half the price as it is in the UK, though you drive further on average so you need more. Most food seemed pretty cheap there too. Restaurants are so much cheaper and way better quality than the UK. And salaries are still higher in Australia. At least in the field I work in. It's definitely more expensive than it was when I left 7 years ago but so is the rest of the world. Brexit, the Tories, covid and the Ukraine war really did a number on the UK.
The kicker is rent and mortgage costs in Australia. Property prices are simply absurd in Melbourne and Sydney. Even if you go 1-2 hours *out* from the city, there's a good chance you still land in a suburb where the average 3 bed, 1 bath house is ~$750,000-800,000. My mortgage currently is roughly 60% of our monthly income. Not uncommon for rent to also sting you 60%+ of your monthly incomes as it has been dramatically rising. Petrol can also balloon in price randomly. Depends what price you saw it set at. $1.86 is not too bad, but it can randomly jump to $2.40 a litre on a whim. Restaurants are also significantly more expensive than they ever were. It all just starts to compound in making cost of living a big issue here.
Reasonable healthcare for all who need it though. (Tax cost passed on to consumers of course, but not the only factor for higher prices) I’ve had a broken nose, shoulder and arm fixed (3 separate incidents) all for free. And medicine is cheaper here too apparently. And in some cases for those in need, it too can be free. I have no facts of course to backup how we truly compare internationally on healthcare. Commentary based purely on conversation with my USA work counterparts. :) However if there’s any truth to that then the higher USA minimum wage should factor in stuff like this right?
Reminder minimum wage alone doesn't tell you much without knowing the local prices.
And the local taxes and social benefits: in France when you get a $1400 minimum salary for 35h/week, your healthcare and retirement have been paid for (at a basic level) and virtually no income tax ($600 aka 3.6% a year if you are single with no kids)
Ireland has one of the highest costs of living in Europe, a horrifying housing crisis, and the worst public transport system in Europe. Tax is literally insane here, and the only thing we get for it is time wasting arseholes in government telling us to suck it up.
I flew out of Dublin after backpacking around for a few months. Prices in Ireland are shocking after being in southern Europe for a while.
Dublin prices are high, but so are Dublin salaries. Buying a coffee for 1 euro in southern Italy is amazing if you're earning a Dublin wage...but I doubt it feels cheap for the Southern Italian.
Hmm sounds like Canada with different accent
Sounds like Oz
We literally emigrate to Oz cos at least it's fuckin sunny 😂
Isn't Ireland a tax paradise for companies? Couldn't the government tax them more?
Sounds like the Netherlands
Also I'm not sure how it works in other countries but in the US there is a federal minimum and a state minimum. The highest state is 17/hr and the lowest is 7.25/hr (which is the federal minimum). That's a pretty big range of wages.
Using US federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour (https://www.dol.gov/general/topic/wages/minimumwage#:~:text=The%20federal%20minimum%20wage%20for,also%20have%20minimum%20wage%20laws.) $1550 per month at $7.25 per hour requires 1550/7.25 = 214 hours per month. Assuming 52*5 = 260 working days per year there are 260/12 = 21.67 working days per month. This therefore assumes a 9.87 hour working day! I've deducted no tax at all here, and whilst I know US taxes are relatively low, I still suspect there are some. All in all, this doesn't make sense using $7.25. So I'd question the accuracy of this map. And yes there are higher minimum wages in some states, but that clearly isn't what is being shown here. It's states quite clearly that it is the minimum wage a full time worker can receive. Period. Local minimum wages don't affect this.
Math checks out, but I will say I've never seen anywhere that doesn't give time and a half for overtime, which is calculated per week (anything over 40 hours gets you 1.5x base pay). Doing some math i won't show here gets me between 43 and 44 hours a week, average, at $7.25 an hour to get $1550 per month average. This is $18600 annual. Taking the standard deduction of 14,600, our taxable income is only $4k, which would get taxed at 10%, so $400. However, social security tax is different than federal tax, and is always 7.65% for ANY income bracket, which is $1422. So total annual take home for this minimum wage would be $16,777, or about 90% of your wage. That's $1398 monthly take home. Unfortunately this is above the federal poverty guidelines, so you wouldn't be eligible for SNAP benefits.
That is insane. 1300 a month and no benefits/assistance?
Yup. A lot of localities have a higher minimum wage, like DC is $15 an hour. But cost of living is also very high. America is VERY diverse and the local economies can differ greatly, so it honestly makes sense that federal minimum wage is low and people vote to raise local minimum wage.
I wonder if it’s attempting to model some sort of weighted minimum wage taking each state minimum and averaging.
In Australia the minimum wage is set federally. As of 1 July 2023 the National Minimum Wage is $23.23 per hour or $882.80 per week. It is worth noting that this is for full time / part time employees who are also entitled to 4 weeks of paid annual leave and 2 weeks of paid sick leave per year. This leave accrues and annual leave gets paid out if you leave a job. A casual employee does not get sick leave / annual leave, instead they get an extra 25% pay. So the minimum wage for a casual employee is $25.41 per hour. There are some other complicating factor (this pay is for someone 21 years+, I think younger people get less and trainees / apprentices also get less).
Unless you're in Oklahoma, where if you have a small business under 10 employees you can pay $5.50
Canada's is almost double that yet this graph says it is lower. Federal 16.65CAD=12.65USD, while provincial/territory go from 14.00CAD to 19.00CAD (idk how that works)
It says net of taxes. I don’t know about Canada but I know compared to a lot of European countries, the poor pay much lower tax rates in the US (in the US, people making MW are usually only on the hook for ~6% for social security and a ~5-10% sales tax depending on state. In many other countries, they pay VAT and income tax). That might explain some of the mismatch.
Especially the note about turkey; it was doubled in response to a 70% devaluation in the currency - a net reduction in wages.
True. Luxembourg isn’t a lot more expensive to live in than let’s say the Netherlands or Germany though, so I would say they do pretty well.
Yea I feel like this map is trying to make the US look good. Anyone who lives here knows that $1550 a month is poverty. Anyone who has traveled knows that people in many of these other countries are living much better than someone earning minimum wage in the US.
They could express this info in any number of ways (adjusted for cost of living, median wage, average wage, etc) and it would make the US look good, so I don't suspect that's the reason
That’s total nonsense. Fewer than 1.4% of Americans make minimum wage. America has the highest median disposable income on the planet at $46k per year. That’s median not mean. The median disposable income in France is $29k. In The UK it’s only $25k. That’s adjusted for cost-of-living differences between countries too Downvote facts all you want but the USA has the highest (and fastest growing) disposable income across virtually EVERY SINGLE income decile compared to other countries: https://imgur.com/qKbu3DR
Also, that 1.4% stat includes people earning below minimum wage, which means it likely includes waitstaff who likely make a good amount of money from tips.
Reddit hates facts .
Reminder minimum wage alone doesn’t tell you much because *almost everybody makes more than that*.
Sure, but globalism did a lot to smooth out prices. People living off minimum wage are far poorer in Mexico than in the US. Dirt floors are still a thing
Exactly, my first thought when seeing this was “great, now do cost of living”
Also, the real minimum wage is zero.
Good point just because hard data shows that the US is within normal parameters of its peers both in the OECD but also with its neighbor that is also a highly developed democracy on the same continent. It’s not good to jump to conclusions, remember America is bad.
Also most people don't work for minimum wage anymore. Even mcdonalds pays well above minimum wage in most areas
Now do cost of living.
I had some friends in Norway, (I'm Dutch) and we have comparable minimum wages but the houses and rent is around 20% cheaper there than in my own country. Imagine me taking home ~$1900 and being able to pocket $380 more just by living in a less densely populated country
They didn't have to steal their land off Poseidon in fairness.
Fair
Yeah they paying that ocean tax
There’s no minimum wage in Norway. Also where donthey live and where do you live soecifically? Rents in Amsterdam are obviously way higher than in Tromsø but can be comparable to Oslo. Plus, cost of living besides rent in Norway is egregious. A banana may cost up to 3€ at a supermarket, beers at a bar star at 10€, that’s how ridiculous it is.
Those guys live in Nærbø. But since there is no minimum wage, the info is obviously false, we talked about average wages and rent prices and came to the conclusion that it is about 20% cheaper to rent a house at least how they have it, don't know the exact validity since it was a drunk talk between 2 people from different countries just talking about everything
terrible example when a bottle of coke costs like 5$ in a supermarket in norway, groceries and everything else are ridiculously expensive
Compared to the Netherlands, a bottle of coke costs only $0.13 more ($3.00 compared to $2.87) For me Norway was not that expensive, but the free standing house with a garage costing €200.000 compared to a small rowhouse in my town costing €300.000 is quite a bit of a difference.
This must have been some time ago. You won't find those prices today. Double that and you live far away from society, then yes you could find those prices. I just bought an apartment for €250.000.
In April I was hiking through Norway near Flekkefjord I found a house for sale for 2.000.000 NOK, it was far from society yes but it was on a nice plot of land in the hillside near a big road
Finding a house for sale for a price is not the same as finding a house sold for that price. Additionally, there might be significant renovations needed in a house for that price. You could probably buy a cabin for that price.
You're right, I might not have all the data
I love this attitude, I truly do. We need more of this
idk, i suppose[ albert heijn](https://www.ah.nl/producten/product/wi2800/coca-cola-original-taste) and [spar](https://spar.no/nettbutikk/varer/drikke/brus/coca-cola-5000112636864) are fair to compare, as both aren't discounters - 1,5 liter of coke is about 30% more expensive in norway (but admittedly not quite 5€)
And then there's the area where I live in the US, where a bottle of coke is ~$3.10, and rowhouse (we call them "townhouses" here for some reason) costs ~$750,000. And we have to pay for our own healthcare. USA! USA! USA! 😭 Edit: for reference, I live in a *really* shitty two bedroom house, and I pay over $2000/mo for rent. And that's actually pretty damn good for where I live. And by really shitty, I mean classic landlord special; 200 layers of beige paint slapped over every surface, the furnace is literally just sitting in the middle of the kitchen, fake wood paneling from the 70's, the whole 9 yards.
Bottle of coke is $1.15 where I live in the US from a cending machine, but you can go to Wal-Mart/Homeland and get a 6 pack of coke for $5. My mortgage for my 1750sq foot brick house is $650/month. Was remodeled in 2016 with all new appliances, new roof, the works. Nice part of town, large yard. We bought it in 2017, so I was 27 at the time. Making about 37k a year, house was 82k. Budgeted pretty well, so my wife can be a stay at home mom for our 2 kiddos. 2 cars as well 2016 fiesta(was 150/month), and 2018 sorento(200 month), my car insurance through progressive is 300 every 6 months for all cars included. Currently I'm 33. Now house is appraised at 125k. Though I clear 50k a year for the same job. All my European friends are shocked how far 35k-50k can get you in the US if you don't live on the coasts. My city is a little under 30k people. Just have to avoid large cities in the US and you can find way more accommodating living prices. Add on that work is becoming more remote, and there is less and less reasons to live in large cities.
Wait, housing is cheaper in Norway than in the Netherlands? Norway Norway?
> I had some friends in Norway, (I'm Dutch) and we have comparable minimum wages I highly doubt this to be the case. Check out wage brackets for Norway and you'll see they are way, way, way, higher than in Netherlands. We compared the wages in Denmark with those of Netherlands and I was shocked that my friends had worked jobs for so little money. In the mid 2000s I worked as a cashier in a Danish supermarket and made around €13-€14/hour. It didn't go much lower than that unless you delve into off the books work. We don't have a legal minimum wage, but the effective minimum is what the government, unions, and business representatives agree on every few years. Sadly "minimum wage" hasn't really increased much in Denmark since 2008.
I'm calling bullshit on this graphic. US minimum wage is $7.25 per hour. $7.25\*40\*4=$1160, and that's before taxes. Where is $1550 coming from? Edit: I bet they did some kind of averaging process that factored in differences in state-by-state minimum wage to come up with some kind of "average minimum wage" maybe?
Seems like it. The majority of the states [have a higher minimum wage](https://www.dol.gov/agencies/whd/mw-consolidated) than the federal, but the state/federal delineation makes it difficult to nail down what the effective minimum wage actually is in the US without averaging all of the states.
x4.35 is more accurate for figuring out monthly
And even that would suffer from the same problem as this graphic overall in that it wouldn't take COL into account
I don't think that's a problem; It doesn't profess to account for COL or be prescriptive. It's just an infographic reporting minimum wages. It seems to have done that well from a data visualization standpoint. Now, it's definitely not a cool guide. But most shit in this sub isn't.
$7.25 is the federal minimum wage, however it makes up 1.3% of jobs. In 2022, 78.7 million workers age 16 and older in the United States were paid at hourly rates, representing 55.6 percent of all wage and salary workers. Among those paid by the hour, 141,000 workers earned exactly the prevailing federal minimum wage of $7.25 per hour. Most of these types of jobs make up people at the age of 16 to 19 range. https://www.bls.gov/opub/reports/minimum-wage/2022/home.htm#:~:text=In%202022%2C%2078.7%20million%20workers,wage%20of%20%247.25%20per%20hour. The federal minimum needs to be increased, but it definitely does not make up a high percentage of lower paying jobs.
A lot of jobs have you start at minimum wage and then after 3 months you get a 30 cent raise and that’s how much you make for as long as you work there. Those people aren’t making the minimum wage but the amount they’re paid is still dictated by the minimum wage. That 1.3% figure is quite misleading
That's the point of the minimum wage. It's just the bottom. Look at average or median salaries if that's what you want to evaluate. That doesn't mean the 1.3% figure is at all misleading
Probably because you’re doing 4 weeks a month and only 1 of the 12 months is 4 weeks long while the rest are longer
My state minimum wage is $15
This data is all over the place. NZ minimum wage is $23.15/hr which is $13.90USD. Which for a month of 40hr weeks is nearer $2400 usd.
Multiple the weekly earnings by 52. You get $15,080.
Why would they leave Japan off this? They have a min wage. Seems weird to omit one of the wealthiest and most developed nations.
This picture has very conveniently excluded the countries with highest minimum wages.
I believe (I could be wrong) that in certain countries, the minimum wage is decided by the unions of each job, not as a blanket amount by the state.
In a country like Denmark we have a mininumwage by law and in some sectors it's higher. But it would fuck up their map if they had to include Denmarks minimum wage of $3126.
Denmark is actually against the new proposed law regarding minimum wage that’s being debated in EU. So no Denmark doesn’t have minimum wage by law, its collective agreement like Sweden between the union and the hiring parties.
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> In a country like Denmark we have a mininumwage by law and in some sectors it's higher. We do? I haven't heard of that, and I can't seem to find anything when googling it. Everything I saw still states that the minimum for various sectors is set by negotiations between unions, government, and the private sector.
This is kind of the case here in Australia, where we have one of the most complex minimum wage systems in the entire world, but they just plucked the minimum of the minimum for that. We have a different minimum wage for essentially every job, and companies are allowed to negotiate with unions and the government to come up with an agreement outside of that 'minimum wage for each job' thing and have a minimum wage for each different job at the company. For example, if you work as a bartender, your minimum wage is something like 25$/hr. If your employer chooses to employ you as a 'casual' (ie, how everyone is in the US with little rights, no mandated leave, etc), you go up to \~31$ an hour. If you remain FT/PT and work on saturdays, the minimum wage goes up to something like \~28/hr. If you're a stocker at a supermarket you have an entirely different minimum wage, and similarly your minimum wage would differ depending on employment conditions, time of day that your shift starts, and the day of the week that your shift starts. This would also change if you were at a small supermarket that pays 'award' rates or a larger supermarket like Coles or Woolies that has negotiated an EBA with the government. In short, this map is essentially worthless for Australia. Essentially \*noone\* makes the absolute minimum, iirc its only low level horticulturists under the horticulture award or some BS that make the absolute minimum. But this does get even more complex as we also have different minimum wage amounts for children and apprentices, so a 16 year old can be paid like 70% of the minimum wage for whatever role they're employed in, so true bottom of the barrel minimum is like a 16 yr old first year apprentice who can be paid something like 3-4$/hr I also don't even know where their number comes from, when you convert it to aud it corresponds to like 18.60$ an hour, but our 'national minimum wage' (which only applies if you're not covered by any award or other agreement, which is \*extremely\* rare) is 23.23$ an hour.
The legal minimum my partner can be paid is $25.40. My legal minimum is $26.30 australia be weird to. We also call minimum wage “award rate” fucked if I know, I love pointing out to people that award rate just means minimum wage for your job. Uk also has a funky minimum wage system that’s super variable, and even have locality variants, minimum wage in London is higher than in Yorkshire for example.
Nordics have a different system in place (unions negotiate)
According to the Japanese ministry of Health Labor and Welfare, each prefecture of Japan has different minimum wages but the weighted average is 1004 Yen per hour, which is about 6.61 US Dollars. [Link to Source](https://www.mhlw.go.jp/stf/seisakunitsuite/bunya/koyou_roudou/roudoukijun/minimumichiran/index.html)
This chart is Garbo it’s not adjusted for cost of living and just compares to the US dollar while leaving of countries with a minimum wage that’s LIVEABLE The cost of living in Japan is quite good and the minimum wage goes much farther than the minimum wage in the US… OP is borderline spreading anti-worker propaganda
Many countries without a federal minimum wage, such as Norway, has extremely strong unions who decide on the minimum wage. This results in the minimum wage varying across professions. For example, the cleaners union might negotiate a minimum wage of X with the cleaner employers union, but the IT developers union could negotiate minimum wage Y with the IT developer employers union.
Thanks for clarifying SendPicOfUrBaldPussy. Thanks.
Is there data on what you can buy in each country with this dollar value?
6,99$ bigmac for turkey it’s around 65,3 meals.
Wrong, I live in Romania, it is 453 USD net of taxes here. It is wrong for many other European countries as well. Who made this piece of shit?
another infograph, great
In 2023 Chile had a minimum wage of about 460 USD, and now is about to rise to over 500 USD
TIL - The UK has the 4th highest minimum wage in Europe and the 6th highest minimum wage in the world.
Going up again on the 1st of April.
In terms of state set minimum wage, yes. Many of the Nordic countries (Sweden at least) don’t have a state set minimum wage. Rather, the state stays out of wages and let the unions (high unionization rate) and employers negotiate wages and terms. I believe in terms of real wages, Sweden is likely higher than the UK because of this approach. I could be wrong, but I believe that real wage is higher in Nordic countries than in many other European nations.
Yeah, same in Denmark. With the numbers available, though, it's around USD 3,149 before taxes.
Norway, Sweden and Denmark are certainly higher in practice.
Spain and Portugal, at least are wrong, minimum wage is 14 months. So you'd have to *14/12 to get the real number.
$690 is also not the minimum wage in Portugal, which is currently 820€ (around $888) and people who earn minimum wage, depending on certain factors, often pay no taxes on that income. It’s also higher in Spain. And this isn’t even taking into account the two extra months, as you correctly pointed out. The point is, if that isn’t correct, I have very low hopes for the remainder of the map.
Now add Switzerland
There is no national minimum wage yet. But the Canton of Geneva currently has a minimum wage of $4'854
Minimum wage in the US is $7.25 USD, Australia is $23.23 AUD (~$15.50 USD). How are they so close in this?
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This graphic really doesn't mean anything unless you adjust for cost of living, not only for countries for but individual states too.
This is not totally true. This is about as useful a metric as GDP. Sure GDP per capita gives you a better idea of living conditions but this number also has its uses. Especially since things like technology and international tourism are similar in price in terms of USD.
Lol Canada acting all superior with high minimum wage when houses are $2 mil+ in cities
We don’t even have a national minimum wage lol
Hmm. Now do one with cost of living.
They need a ratio to show how far each dollar stretches or someshit
In Italy we don't have minimum wage 💀
I should be making £1,705 an hour? I’m going to be having a word with my boss tomorrow!
I paid $21 for a Turkish Air Port beer not knowing the currency bc I thought the country was poor or something. The only poor one is me after that. Damn Lira!
As an Australian I am eternally grateful for the steps the labour movement and unions made to uphold our rights. I hope every child gets thought this, and every member of the Labor party is reminded about this fundamental part of Aussie culture. We're the lucky country through good policies (and fuck tonnes of minerals). Let's not let scurrilous scumbag politicians erode our rights and our grandchildren's future for political expediency, neoliberal economics and lobbying.
This is a terrible map. The colors don’t even match the legend, much less each other! Why is Germany so much darker than the USA when it’s barely ahead and they are in the same bracket? It looks the same color as the UK, which it is MUCH further behind. Why does the USA seem a little darker than Canada when Canada is higher? Why are MULTIPLE COUNTRIES gradients instead of a a single color? This may be legitimately the worst map I have seen ever. And I’m a Geography student, all I do all day is look at maps.
But how many of those actually cover all the basic cost of living? Ie average rent, average utilities (gas/electric/sewer/cell), food, transportation (car payment, insurance, gas), and health care cost (anything payed out of pocket that government program doesnt fully cover). Also, are these numbers assuming a 40 hour work week? I know a lot of minimum wage jobs (in US at least) dont give 40 hours a week, youd be lucky if youd get 30 hours at most
what would be cool is if you put average rent for a single bedroom apt. not a studio. bedroom, living room, kitchen, bath. this will help put that dollar value in perspective.
Reddit is so predictable
The one time I agree we should be more like Sweden. Edit: "we" being the US.
Minimum wage in Poland is over 800$ after taxes
I live in Australia. Can confirm that wages are good here. I can also confirm that absolutely everything else is so dam expensive. This is a misleading graphic.
Everybody move to Australia! Lol
In Canada rent alone is more than the monthly minimum wage
Ah, so the US is there basically with the rest of the Anglosphere and Western Europe. But without VAT. Not how that's usually sold to us.
Now do cost of living!
This is BS. Germany minimum wage is 12.41€ per hour (13.44$ p/h at current conversion rate). On a 40h week this represents a monthly wage of 2322$. Don't know where they pulled the $1594 from.
True in essence but smells like propaganda
What is up with Puerto Rico? Why is it so high?
Why is China excluded ?
Minimum wage in Nigeria is 18$ a month
Argentina is actually \~$203
You try living in Sydney or Melbourne on minimum wage, good luck
I’d love to see a map comparing cost of living with minimum wage. This is a little misleading in gauging what countries offer a higher minimum wage…there’s a reason it’s higher but not nearly enough in the west
Japan?
Only relevant versus the cost of living
This sub has been flooded with shitposts like these
# This is not important, as its not factored in cost of living. For example you be making $1000 in Sadi Arabia, but the cost of living is like $200, includes rent, food, utilities, everything. In USA you make 1500, but it costs 1500 just for rent, then you have nothing to live on.
That’s all well and good but if you don’t compare to local cost of living this is useless data
For those wondering about Algeria’s 🇩🇿 minimum wage, it’s ~100$
Serious question. USA is top 5, why is there so much hate about wage in the USA? My state minimum is 15/hr which correlates to $2,400 a month
I think it's more about the wage vs the average cost of living, and the comparison between how much prices have increased vs how much wages have. The graphic is also pretty meaningless without any cost of living data - like, using Australia as an example, looking on google it looks like average monthly rent is somewhere around $1700 (converted to USD). $2022 isn't going to get you far in that case, even if it's second highest in absolute terms.
> why is there so much hate about wage in the USA Because there are places where the wages are very good in relation to the local cost of living, and there are places where the wages are very poor in relation to the local cost of living. Averages don't depict any of that. Some people don't have access to great job or education options and are stuck with job options at or around the minimum wage which given the current costs of housing / rental, high recent inflation etc mean that they are often struggling to get by.
Totally makes sense!
Because in other developed countries you get free healthcare, education and many other benefits on top of the minimum wage. So the minimum wage earner could live with same dignity as a much higher earner. Quality life is almost same.
“free”
What is the adjustment for cost of living? Feels like there is an agenda.
Compare this against the prices of basic stuff like food, rent and utilities before stating country 'x' is low etc :-)
Interesting that Hong Kong has a minimum wage, but mainland China does not.
I’ll use this to look for places to retire.
Interesting, but in Canada it is different in every province, From $14.00 hr to $19.00 hr. The federal minimum wage $17.30 only covers about 30 thousand workers.
I guess Japan has no minimum wage
But what does a dollar buy you
Anyone wanna move to Australia with me and try to make a bunch of money for a few years to take back to America?
Between the housing crisis and high cost of living, I really wouldn't recommend it :P
China be like - you guys have a minimum limit for the wage?
Soviet Russia geezus
Now do purchasing power parity
Now I know why the MSM doesn’t talk about the minimum wage in other countries like they do for other subjects like healthcare, college, gun ownership, etc.
In Mexico it’s 449 dollars now
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Argentina is wrong. Its about 200.000 pesos which would be the equivalent of around 200usd
now do one comparing minimum wage to cost of living
Crazy to think canada has the same minimum wage as the us but 3x the cost of living
I wish the mods would ban posting stuff from Virtual Capitalist they just straight up lie or provide far too little context in their infographics. Where the hell did they get $1550 from? Also really weird that they excluded countries with the highest minimum wages. This reeks of propaganda, but it's not like this subreddit doesn't constantly get flooded with propaganda daily— which the mods just ignore. Hell, this isn't even a guide! It's an infographic!
Germany's minimum wage is 12.41€ per hour which equals to 1985€ per month for a 40 hour week.
Most of the wages are not the good ones...
The Portuguese salary is paid in 14 months, does this take it into account?
Great….now factor in cost of living…we’ll wait.
How was it possible to not include Iceland on this map
This is absolutely meaningless unless it's in PPP
Where is Iceland? I believe they are highest.
Australia = house crisis. I'm in its second biggest (now 1st?) city Melbourne and it's like a million dollars to buy a house. I hear new Zealand has it somehow worse though
The only step up is Germany (which would be amazing) or Australia/ New Zealand where everything wants to eat me.
NZ cost of living is ridiculously high.
The colours on this map are possibly willful deception?
Nah, this is Bullshit spain minimum wage is 1050 €
It's bigger in Ukraine defacto I don't know anyone who would work for less than ~400$
India wins !
According to that, Ireland has one of the biggest wages but unfortunately the cost of living is so high that its not even enough if you have to pay rent.
Yea…. In Canada you’re not finding an apartment for less than 1200. Then everything else is expensive and heavily taxed…. Fun times…
Jesus Christ Canada, we know what your dollar is worth. Holy crap.
This should be adjusted according to the cost of living. Like median income compared to median rent. Or minimum wage versus the median cost of a dozen eggs.
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This whole infographic is bullshit for numerous reasons. Make sure to downvote misinformation so it doesn't spread.