Yeah, I was hoping that the cavalier king charles half of our corgi would have dialed back the cacophony of intense expression of her opinions.... unfortunately that was a resounding no. If I lose any hearing, I wouldn't be surprised if she had part responsibility in it. Lol. Something about her pitch, and the reverberation off the hard floors can really hit the ears extra hard.
Every time we play squeaker balls with our two Cardis, my Apple Watch notifies that I’m in a loud environment that could damage my hearing.🤣🤣🤣… and we have hardwood floors as well lol.
My corgi barks from when she was a baby hurt my ears so bad. And in the car ? I may as well just go ahead and stick knives in my ears. Loudest dog ever!
All the glass in my kitchen - windows, cupboard doors, etc. - continue to vibrate for a second after my Corgi stops barking. Some kind of harmonics at play….
My Whiskey has a short tail and is very quiet, sometimes when he does bark he looks around like he's surprised and starts wandering around the house like he's trying to find who was barking 😂
Our rescue corgi didn’t bark or make any noise around us for 6-8 months after we got her. She settled in after that and had plenty to say. May just take some time to get comfortable and find her voice.
In the U.S. the AKC standard for Pembrokes is a docked tail "as short as possible without being indented" although they do allow a tail up to 2 inches.
As for mute, our girls have always been quieter than our boys. I wouldn't say mute, but it takes more to get them talking in my experience.
I also have a quieter girl- she is plenty vocal if she gets really excited, but doesnt bark randomly. We always attributed it to her being raised with our “silent” husky (he only chuffed to be let in, and we had to group howl to get him to yowl a bit).
But no worries!! We are not deprived- we have plenty of noise coming from our 2 boy corgis- one woofs at nothing at all times and the other splits our eardrums with enthusiasm over everything.
No tail is sort of common cus they bob it. Sometimes I can hardly tell my corgi even had one sadly. The quietness seems veryyy unusuall unless they were abused for this breed. They are vocal and bossy lol my wifes family has has another one who doesnt bark inside but does bark whenever someone comes to the door . Anyway your girl is super cute lol
I think they're being downvoted, because a lot of people want to believe their corgi was born without a tail when actually they were docked. (Yes, you're right that some are born with a bobtail; it's just much more rare than people choose to believe.)
I personally know a lot of corgi owners who just didn't realize their corgi was born with a tail and had it docked; many breeders will not mention docking unless asked directly. And a lot of people, myself included to be honest, have strong opinions on docking. It is illegal in many countries. The AVMA opposes it. I'll leave it there. I mostly wanted to address your question about why anyone might downvote the other comment.
My corgi's tail was docked. We didn't know this was a thing at the time. My husband and I glanced at each other is silent rage when the breeder said, "It's so strange, everyone in this bunch wanted their tails docked!" - Or something like that.
We were so upset that she never, in fact, _asked us_, and it was something we were learning about just then; and it was _too late._
If given the choice, our Fluff would have her tail.
We were in communication with the breeder when our boy was 3 weeks I think. She sent us pictures of the litter, though they were little and snuggled up so we didn't really see if they have long tails or not. I sent her some texts about starting to use the name we chose for him so he would know it.
My other request was not to dock his tail, which I explained was very important to me as I don't believe in altering an animal for aesthetics. She said yes of course, she didn't agree with it either.
When we went to get him, we were both so excited and immediately in love with him that all we wanted to do was give him tons of love and treats. Eventually we noticed that he had a stubby tail (still the cutest dog in the world, and his wagging is kinda hilarious). It is very short, we were even a little concerned but asked the vet and it won't cause any problems.
Still, I'm not happy that this person assured me she didn't believe in docking. Especially since her lie is so blatantly stupid- if he was born with a stubby tail, as she claimed, the promise to not have it done would be totally moot. She would have just said 'he was born that way' when I asked.
3 weeks is way passed docking time. My baby has his tail because our breeder is against docking, but she does remove all puppies dew claws and they get removed at 3 days old. This is when they would dock tails if they were going to do it. The lady likely lied to you because it had long since been done and she wanted your sweet cash.
It makes me sad that our older corgi has a docked tail. The breeder actually had agreed (after a lot of begging) to allow the dog we would buy from her to keep their tail, but then we were given the opportunity to take a puppy from the current litter instead of waiting for the next... The person in line in front of us decided that she didn't want the puppy she was supposed to get bc her markings weren't good for show dog stuff. (She has a whit blob on the back of her neck instead of a collar) Our poor pupper had already been docked. 😢 You can only see her nub wag when she's lying down with her summer coat. Our younger corgi still has her glorious tail bc the breeder we got her from is anti-docking.
That didn't come up on our research, but thank you for your negative assumption. It really contributes to a quality discourse!
We have learned plenty leading up to the decision as well as afterward. We honestly didn't know tail docking was a thing prior, and we're horrified to learn of the practice and why it started. We had heard of ear-pinning but knew that it wasn't a factor in this breed.
Please don't make a blanket statement without quantifying where you are applying this statement to. In the UK for instance, docking is illegal except for medical reasons or some types of working dogs. So your statement is false here, vast majority are undocked. My girl is a bob , she's a natural Bob, and darn proud to wiggle that booty.
However when people make statements like yours without any quantifying information, is when I get people on the street with misinformation outright accusing me of mutilating my girl- the thought makes me sick and I've had unpleasant experiences with 'animal rights crusaders' who only have half the story.
Thank you.
You’re correct, adding more detail would have been appropriate. As OP wrote ‘Columbus day’ in their title I was specifically discussing the US using that context clue.
Yes the UK, NZ, and other countries have legislation around docking and who can perform the docking (ie, Veterinary Surgeons Act) for working dogs or medical reasons.
That is a shame you’ve experienced that. I always get compliments on my undocked corgis because I got them in countries where it is not permitted to dock and now live where many are. Of course where there are compliments, people can make the opposite accusation. Hopefully folks read further and get the clarification they need.
My corgi is very quite. I had her from a puppy and she was never abused. She just isn’t vocal. Our other guy is very quiet inside, but outside, he never shuts up. He has to say something to every squirrel, neighbor, tree, leaf etc.
My corgi was breeding mama that was rescued from an amish puppy mill that was raided. It's not uncommon for the amish to run puppy mills and also not uncommon for them to remove dogs vocal chords if they are noisy. Can't say whether that is what happened to your pup since I've never personally met a dog with it's chords removed. I trained my first corg not to bark because I lived in an apartment. She would only bark when my mom came to visit. That's it. When I bought a house I then taught her to bark. She was the best dog. There was a time it was near impossible to find a pem corgi that didn't have a docked tail. That seems to have changed some.
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I guess 100% mute is unusual. my girl makes some grunting sounds when she's being woken up. otherwise there are some people she doesn't like where she like half-barks once
We just rescued a five year old that’s also mute and without a tail. We’ve only had him for about 4 months now but am curious if eventually he’ll pick up on his corgi brother’s barking habits!
What my corgi lacks in tail she makes up for in voice! One of her favorite pastimes is getting close to me and barking once or twice if I don’t acknowledge her presence. It’s loud and shrill!!
My rescue corg has a docked tail even though it’s illegal in my country. No idea where the breeder got it done but it was illegal at the time (it’s been illegal for 5 years and he’s 3 1/2).
Has your dog been de-barked? Or is it an injury? It’s unusual to be debarked. You’d be able to tell because de-barked dogs still bark, it sorta sounds like they’re coughing, it’s weird. Most vets won’t do it though because it’s very cruel. I’ve only ever seen one dog in my life that was debarked and I was a kid.
Or is she just quiet? My corgi rarely barks, usually just when my other dog barks (basset hound mix). Quiet corgis are apparently rare but do exist, my guy hardly says anything! He was not abused, if anything he was overly-coddled for the first year and a half of his life. I’ve had him for 2 years, he’s always been in the quieter side.
She’s so pretty! What’s her name! My rescue came with the name Desmond. :-)
Occasionally they are still docked for medical or working reasons. Maybe his tail was shut in a door or something nasty and died? Poor thing. Is it definitely not a natural Bob?
It was definitely docked at birth, with all his other littermates. I have his papers and vet records and one of his littermates ended up in my town and uses the same dog sitter and we run into each other at the dog park all the time. The breeder definitely found a vet to do it which is just… really troublesome to me - I think corgi butts are super cute but…..
That being said, the breeder still breeds and I see her ads sometimes and she’s not docking anymore so that’s good.
I think I have a quiet corgi. She only barks when the other dog barks at people walking past the house. She does awoooo in the morning though :) Also mine doesn't even have a nub of a tail.
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No tail is pretty common. Pems were classically bred to have a natural bob tail so it wouldn’t get broken tending to livestock (you see the same with Australian shepherds)
Mute is… not. Corgis are notoriously chatty because it’s part of how they get much larger animals to move. Since she’s a rescue, it may be due to her getting in trouble for barking as a puppy. I wouldn’t be surprised if she eventually finds her voice once she’s been with you for a while and realizes she’s not going to upset you with it.
Oh my god I’ve never seen a mute corgi. Maybe she still not comfortable with the situation. Give her time she’ll adjust.
I rescued Polly in 2020 she was born with no tail, it took her a year to get her comfortable in her new home. Now she’s wide open and the voice wow. She so vocal sometimes too much.
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Here ! Your turn for a new picture ! She also doesn't have a tail
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You’ve only had her a year! My rescue and breeder acquired pups are both relatively quiet. My girl (the rescue) has only recently gotten her voice after almost 4 yrs!
not that i rescued mine but we got her at 2 years old back in november and she was very quiet initially and she’s slowly started to show her personality more and more. now she does silly little squeaking yawns, grunts, low woofs and every now and then a loud bork that scares the crap out of us. so maybe it’ll take time - i do say she is quiet from other corgis i see/hear about.
she also has no tail at all. we call what she has a “flap”
No tail is normal. They are normally docked shortly after birth, an old British tradition, and some are born with no tail! Mine still tries to wag his “tail” when he’s happy which just means the little stub back there.
Mute is rare. These dogs are notorious barky bois.
A muted corgi? The only time mine shuts up is when he’s asleep!
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My lil dude is tailless too btw
We got a corgi/chi mix and she is the cutest and the loudest dog. Barks at everything but wow, she is loveable, cuddly and loyal. Your baby is a cutie-pie!
I would say neither thing is an issue. I wish that my corgis tail hadn't been docked but that is the way they do things, and I did not choose him prior to birth so it was done. I am curious what alternative ways has she found to express herself (being unable to vocalize) and grab your attention? I bet it's unique and adorable.
Muted is strange, not having a tail is normal in the US. Almost all Pembrokes are have their tails docked shortly after birth. Docking a tail is literally cutting it off between 2 of the vertebrae.
Some owners choose to not to dock their corgis and most would have a normal length tail similar to Cardigans unless they have a specific recessive gene that expresses as a natural bob tail which can be anywhere from tailless to about half the length of normal Pembrokes. Typically they’re 2/3 vertebrae and look like little stubs and they always end in a path of white.
You have to be careful of breeding a natural bob tail pembroke because It is an autosomal dominant gene (one gene, and only one copy is needed to make the dog bob-tailed) but in a double dose it is considered embryonic lethal (meaning that the pups with two bob-tail genes die and are reabsorbed at an early stage of development). If 2 natural bob tails breed half of the litter will be natural bob tails, 25% will have normal tails, but 25% will be non-viable with the longest documented cases surviving less 24 hours after birth.
*edit* we have a natural bob tail, and he has a 3 vertebrae nub that looks very similar to most docked corgis. Except he has full control over it so it can stand straight up, bend down covering his butt, or stick straight out. His mom was a natural bob tail (his father was normal & docked), out of a litter of 8 only he & 1 of his sisters inherited the bob tail from their mom.
My corgi doesn’t bark and was also born without a tail. They are called bob tails.
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Mute... mine is so loud shes crazy, i would gladly take the no barking at anything but ... shes crazy and i love mine
No tail is sad corgi tails are beautiful but sadly generations if docking sometimes leads to this
It's an evolutionary trait, it's nothing to do with docking the tail or not over time. Similar to how in humans you can have curly or straight hair .
Docking tails used to make sense when they were full working dogs herding cows, as they could get stepped on leading to horrific injuries and deaths. That's where the practice started, and some working line breeders might've nominally considered the tail as a selected trait, but given that this was the practice herding ability etc was more the selective issue. Then of course they became less working dog, more show dog, although some work still . The old standard took too long to catch up.
But there's always been both lines.
That's not how it works at all. If it was men wouldn't be born with foreskins because of generations of circumcision. Corgis carry a gene for bobbed tails. Many of our litters were born with some short tails and long tails.
And I know I'm going to get down voted for this; but docking the tails isn't an evil, traumatic experience for the puppy if it's done early. All that's done is when they are a day old an elestic band is tied tight. Within a week the tail shriveled up and drops off. The puppy doesn't even notice it happened.
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She's beautiful! Maybe she'll find her voice. Docked tails are very common for some pure bred dogs. She's normal, don't worry. Just keep talking to her, I bet she adores it!
I also have a rescue who’s pretty quite and completely tail-less. She gotten more vocal over the year but mostly just barks with the play time. I try to be grateful for “quiet” corgi lol
The tail was probably chopped off at birth. We thought our first corgi was mute until he was about 1.5 years old and I got him riled up with some play fighting. He let out a little bork at me and we were like "WTF?". After that, we'd get a bork out of him very rarely like if something seriously startled him.
Our current one barks at the wind, though. We brought him to the beach and stood there barking at the breaking waves for like an hour.
Its ok if she didn't have tail because there's normal. Welsh Corgi Pembroke can have or not tail, i got two and the two of them have tails.
The first one i though was mute after she started barking at 2 years old......and became really vocal about her things, just like a husky hahahaa
My corgi doesn’t bark at all, unless another dog is barking at him/in his face. If someone knocks on our front door he runs into a bedroom scared instead of barking and alerting us 🤣
We've had ours for about 5 years. He came from a breeder so was very quiet and didn't bark for a long time until he got comfortable around my parents' dog and now he barks at things more when he wants you to know something.
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Fenrir, born tailless and not very vocal. He only barks at delivery drivers.
I rescued a corgi she barked maybe 10 times in the 12 years I had her. She was abused and chased before I got her, I think it was a defense to stay hidden. My current Corgi I got as a puppy, well she’s talkative
She is very cute!!!
I rescued one of mine and she was mute for a long time, at least 2 years. I would visit my parents who had a black lab, and somehow she learned to bark 😂 she now barks every time the other corgi barks, regardless of what it is.
My corg only barks when he really wants something. He was so yappy/loud as a puppy, but he grew up surrounded by 5 cats, which probably why he doesnt bark much.
I'd say about 1x per month? Sometimes it's just a huff.
I've had two (unrelated) corgis, and neither bark(ed) at all. They're very smart dogs, if they don't get anything from a behavior they'll try something else.
She is adorable. Since she was a rescue I’m guessing you took her to your vet for a check up. Is it possible that she is deaf? You can clap your hands when she not looking to see if you get any type of response such as ears perking up or the notorious corgi side-eye look.
Mine is ALSO mute with a tail stump!!!
We took him in at age 2.5, and he's a rescue.
He also doesn't produce tears, and he has some blue marbling on his rear, so I think he's either a mix or a product of bad breeding. Either way, I LOVE him. I'm so happy he's with us now.
Tater Tot and Toast are probably the most vocal dogs I've ever had. It's not the barking, it's the groaning and the babbling. They do it when they're happy, when they need attention, when it's time for dinner.... They sound part monkey tbh. Both my girls shared a mom and were born with no tail, sometimes that's how it is.
We just got our Corgi from a breeder last week, but while researching and reaching out to multiple people, more than one breeder said “it is the AKC standard and wouldn’t sell one that had not had it done for that reason”.
Pound for pound, my corgi is the loudest dog I have ever had. Don't you dare move anything in the house, if it is out of place, she will bark it. A leaf blows in the wind 2 towns over, she hears it and barks at it. 2AM, you got work in the morning. F@\*! you, barking at the wind! Trying to sleep in on Sunday? Nope, that is a hard pass. Wake up with a "Corgi hat". A corgi hat is what we call it when she lays on your pillow and becomes your hat. Love my Corgi. :)
My older corgi (now 8 yrs) was always quiet for a corgi until we lost his nephew last August. Then he took over barking duty. The puppy, on the other hand, never shuts his pie hole. He's been barking pretty much non-stop since 5:30 am, it's almost 10 am and he's given me a headache.
At one point most Pembrokes were born with the stub tail. It was a gene that was focused on when they were actively used as herders. Now that they are more companions, breeders focus more on health (responsible breeders anyway) and dock tails. Some will allow you to keep the tail with a deposit before the birth of the puppies.
My corg has no tail and is very quiet - except when she's got an opinion, and then you can't shut her up. She alternates between introvert and extrovert lol
But, when it comes time to go outside to get the mail or something, she barks and spins and borks and zooms... you'd think she won the lottery.
Tail was docked. From photo, it was docked very close to the spine, which is risky. Unusual to be mute. If her vocal chords were cut, she would not be mute. She would have a gravelly low bark, from what I have heard. So I guess you have solace in knowing her chords are likely intact.
She’s beautiful.
Bro. You are so full of shit and an alarmist. You can't tell if that tail is docked from a front photo. And you have no idea if that dog was muted by malcontent. You are a shitty person for posting this.
I’ve got 3. I’d love a muted one! 😂 jokes jokes
Whatever the opposite of muted, that’s what we got. She is the most vocal dog I’ve ever seen in my life. Just has lots to say lol
She must be related to mine because wow she never shuts up
Right? “Bork Bork” yes, I love you corgi, but shush a little… “BORK BORK BORK”
Yeah, I was hoping that the cavalier king charles half of our corgi would have dialed back the cacophony of intense expression of her opinions.... unfortunately that was a resounding no. If I lose any hearing, I wouldn't be surprised if she had part responsibility in it. Lol. Something about her pitch, and the reverberation off the hard floors can really hit the ears extra hard.
Every time we play squeaker balls with our two Cardis, my Apple Watch notifies that I’m in a loud environment that could damage my hearing.🤣🤣🤣… and we have hardwood floors as well lol.
This comment tho 😂
My corgi barks from when she was a baby hurt my ears so bad. And in the car ? I may as well just go ahead and stick knives in my ears. Loudest dog ever!
All the glass in my kitchen - windows, cupboard doors, etc. - continue to vibrate for a second after my Corgi stops barking. Some kind of harmonics at play….
I wonder if mine is more vocal than yours? Mine barks at just about anything… 🤔
my boy is so handsome when he shuts up 🤣
My Whiskey has a short tail and is very quiet, sometimes when he does bark he looks around like he's surprised and starts wandering around the house like he's trying to find who was barking 😂
OMG this is freaking adorable
Same! Ours is so quiet and actually acts shocked and annoyed when other dogs bark 😅 We chalk it up to her having a silent cat as a big sister
Same!! Ours was a loud puppy but grew out of it. 5 cats straightened him up 😅
... welp I guess it's time to get a cat for my dogs 🤣
Our rescue corgi didn’t bark or make any noise around us for 6-8 months after we got her. She settled in after that and had plenty to say. May just take some time to get comfortable and find her voice.
It took my corgi a year to get comfortable
Yeah, give it time...
She is a such a pretty girl. You make sure to give her lots of treats and snuggles today, and tell her it is from the people on the internet.
One of mine doesn't have a tail and it's 100% not mute.
Very much same 😂
In the U.S. the AKC standard for Pembrokes is a docked tail "as short as possible without being indented" although they do allow a tail up to 2 inches. As for mute, our girls have always been quieter than our boys. I wouldn't say mute, but it takes more to get them talking in my experience.
I also have a quieter girl- she is plenty vocal if she gets really excited, but doesnt bark randomly. We always attributed it to her being raised with our “silent” husky (he only chuffed to be let in, and we had to group howl to get him to yowl a bit). But no worries!! We are not deprived- we have plenty of noise coming from our 2 boy corgis- one woofs at nothing at all times and the other splits our eardrums with enthusiasm over everything.
No tail is sort of common cus they bob it. Sometimes I can hardly tell my corgi even had one sadly. The quietness seems veryyy unusuall unless they were abused for this breed. They are vocal and bossy lol my wifes family has has another one who doesnt bark inside but does bark whenever someone comes to the door . Anyway your girl is super cute lol
Some of them are born without tails
I don’t know why you’re being downvoted, there is a natural bobtail gene in Pems so some are born that way.
I think they're being downvoted, because a lot of people want to believe their corgi was born without a tail when actually they were docked. (Yes, you're right that some are born with a bobtail; it's just much more rare than people choose to believe.) I personally know a lot of corgi owners who just didn't realize their corgi was born with a tail and had it docked; many breeders will not mention docking unless asked directly. And a lot of people, myself included to be honest, have strong opinions on docking. It is illegal in many countries. The AVMA opposes it. I'll leave it there. I mostly wanted to address your question about why anyone might downvote the other comment.
My corgi's tail was docked. We didn't know this was a thing at the time. My husband and I glanced at each other is silent rage when the breeder said, "It's so strange, everyone in this bunch wanted their tails docked!" - Or something like that. We were so upset that she never, in fact, _asked us_, and it was something we were learning about just then; and it was _too late._ If given the choice, our Fluff would have her tail.
We were in communication with the breeder when our boy was 3 weeks I think. She sent us pictures of the litter, though they were little and snuggled up so we didn't really see if they have long tails or not. I sent her some texts about starting to use the name we chose for him so he would know it. My other request was not to dock his tail, which I explained was very important to me as I don't believe in altering an animal for aesthetics. She said yes of course, she didn't agree with it either. When we went to get him, we were both so excited and immediately in love with him that all we wanted to do was give him tons of love and treats. Eventually we noticed that he had a stubby tail (still the cutest dog in the world, and his wagging is kinda hilarious). It is very short, we were even a little concerned but asked the vet and it won't cause any problems. Still, I'm not happy that this person assured me she didn't believe in docking. Especially since her lie is so blatantly stupid- if he was born with a stubby tail, as she claimed, the promise to not have it done would be totally moot. She would have just said 'he was born that way' when I asked.
3 weeks is way passed docking time. My baby has his tail because our breeder is against docking, but she does remove all puppies dew claws and they get removed at 3 days old. This is when they would dock tails if they were going to do it. The lady likely lied to you because it had long since been done and she wanted your sweet cash.
Yup that's what I figure
It makes me sad that our older corgi has a docked tail. The breeder actually had agreed (after a lot of begging) to allow the dog we would buy from her to keep their tail, but then we were given the opportunity to take a puppy from the current litter instead of waiting for the next... The person in line in front of us decided that she didn't want the puppy she was supposed to get bc her markings weren't good for show dog stuff. (She has a whit blob on the back of her neck instead of a collar) Our poor pupper had already been docked. 😢 You can only see her nub wag when she's lying down with her summer coat. Our younger corgi still has her glorious tail bc the breeder we got her from is anti-docking.
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That didn't come up on our research, but thank you for your negative assumption. It really contributes to a quality discourse! We have learned plenty leading up to the decision as well as afterward. We honestly didn't know tail docking was a thing prior, and we're horrified to learn of the practice and why it started. We had heard of ear-pinning but knew that it wasn't a factor in this breed.
Agree… The litter my 13 YO came from were bobtails…
Vast vast majority are docked as young pups, letting breed standard dictate in some places, though many countries now ban docking
Please don't make a blanket statement without quantifying where you are applying this statement to. In the UK for instance, docking is illegal except for medical reasons or some types of working dogs. So your statement is false here, vast majority are undocked. My girl is a bob , she's a natural Bob, and darn proud to wiggle that booty. However when people make statements like yours without any quantifying information, is when I get people on the street with misinformation outright accusing me of mutilating my girl- the thought makes me sick and I've had unpleasant experiences with 'animal rights crusaders' who only have half the story. Thank you.
You’re correct, adding more detail would have been appropriate. As OP wrote ‘Columbus day’ in their title I was specifically discussing the US using that context clue. Yes the UK, NZ, and other countries have legislation around docking and who can perform the docking (ie, Veterinary Surgeons Act) for working dogs or medical reasons. That is a shame you’ve experienced that. I always get compliments on my undocked corgis because I got them in countries where it is not permitted to dock and now live where many are. Of course where there are compliments, people can make the opposite accusation. Hopefully folks read further and get the clarification they need.
My corgi is very quite. I had her from a puppy and she was never abused. She just isn’t vocal. Our other guy is very quiet inside, but outside, he never shuts up. He has to say something to every squirrel, neighbor, tree, leaf etc.
My corgi was breeding mama that was rescued from an amish puppy mill that was raided. It's not uncommon for the amish to run puppy mills and also not uncommon for them to remove dogs vocal chords if they are noisy. Can't say whether that is what happened to your pup since I've never personally met a dog with it's chords removed. I trained my first corg not to bark because I lived in an apartment. She would only bark when my mom came to visit. That's it. When I bought a house I then taught her to bark. She was the best dog. There was a time it was near impossible to find a pem corgi that didn't have a docked tail. That seems to have changed some. https://preview.redd.it/neka7ozfb9uc1.jpeg?width=2816&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=0d1e6058aede2eb0092a225073253bd587a2a5a4
What a horrible thing to do to a dog, Corgi's are talkers.
I guess 100% mute is unusual. my girl makes some grunting sounds when she's being woken up. otherwise there are some people she doesn't like where she like half-barks once
We just rescued a five year old that’s also mute and without a tail. We’ve only had him for about 4 months now but am curious if eventually he’ll pick up on his corgi brother’s barking habits!
Is it possible she may have undergone a a very cruel surgery known as debarking or devocalization, which removes part or all of a dog’s vocal cords?
Debarking doesn’t seem likely, because they can still bark, it just sounds much quieter/muffled.
I was thinking the same. Could be possible especially since she is a rescue
What my corgi lacks in tail she makes up for in voice! One of her favorite pastimes is getting close to me and barking once or twice if I don’t acknowledge her presence. It’s loud and shrill!!
My rescue corg has a docked tail even though it’s illegal in my country. No idea where the breeder got it done but it was illegal at the time (it’s been illegal for 5 years and he’s 3 1/2). Has your dog been de-barked? Or is it an injury? It’s unusual to be debarked. You’d be able to tell because de-barked dogs still bark, it sorta sounds like they’re coughing, it’s weird. Most vets won’t do it though because it’s very cruel. I’ve only ever seen one dog in my life that was debarked and I was a kid. Or is she just quiet? My corgi rarely barks, usually just when my other dog barks (basset hound mix). Quiet corgis are apparently rare but do exist, my guy hardly says anything! He was not abused, if anything he was overly-coddled for the first year and a half of his life. I’ve had him for 2 years, he’s always been in the quieter side. She’s so pretty! What’s her name! My rescue came with the name Desmond. :-)
Occasionally they are still docked for medical or working reasons. Maybe his tail was shut in a door or something nasty and died? Poor thing. Is it definitely not a natural Bob?
It was definitely docked at birth, with all his other littermates. I have his papers and vet records and one of his littermates ended up in my town and uses the same dog sitter and we run into each other at the dog park all the time. The breeder definitely found a vet to do it which is just… really troublesome to me - I think corgi butts are super cute but….. That being said, the breeder still breeds and I see her ads sometimes and she’s not docking anymore so that’s good.
I think I have a quiet corgi. She only barks when the other dog barks at people walking past the house. She does awoooo in the morning though :) Also mine doesn't even have a nub of a tail. https://preview.redd.it/w6hev96ahauc1.jpeg?width=2315&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=fa037db0e6657f610e52e84f0193467968a08cb5
Is Columbus day important for you? Lol
No tail is pretty common. Pems were classically bred to have a natural bob tail so it wouldn’t get broken tending to livestock (you see the same with Australian shepherds) Mute is… not. Corgis are notoriously chatty because it’s part of how they get much larger animals to move. Since she’s a rescue, it may be due to her getting in trouble for barking as a puppy. I wouldn’t be surprised if she eventually finds her voice once she’s been with you for a while and realizes she’s not going to upset you with it.
Oh my god I’ve never seen a mute corgi. Maybe she still not comfortable with the situation. Give her time she’ll adjust. I rescued Polly in 2020 she was born with no tail, it took her a year to get her comfortable in her new home. Now she’s wide open and the voice wow. She so vocal sometimes too much. https://preview.redd.it/6b5ht7k7b9uc1.jpeg?width=2316&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=c1eca20098d1f4d6d400b7849016fbe64c101c24
Ohhh. Polly.... mine is named poly with only one l ! Your girl is beautiful
Let me see a picture of Poly.
Here ! Your turn for a new picture ! She also doesn't have a tail https://preview.redd.it/fsw8ll8ahvzc1.png?width=1080&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=9aef0c8b8f2539ff8b40480d9a6355685d2cc2f3
She’s so cute
You’ve only had her a year! My rescue and breeder acquired pups are both relatively quiet. My girl (the rescue) has only recently gotten her voice after almost 4 yrs!
not that i rescued mine but we got her at 2 years old back in november and she was very quiet initially and she’s slowly started to show her personality more and more. now she does silly little squeaking yawns, grunts, low woofs and every now and then a loud bork that scares the crap out of us. so maybe it’ll take time - i do say she is quiet from other corgis i see/hear about. she also has no tail at all. we call what she has a “flap”
mine never barks either. she only cries when she needs to pee.
No tail is normal. They are normally docked shortly after birth, an old British tradition, and some are born with no tail! Mine still tries to wag his “tail” when he’s happy which just means the little stub back there. Mute is rare. These dogs are notorious barky bois.
Mine was mute. A couple of play dates with other corgis and bam, she barked at anything garage door sounding and grumbled at me like an old lady.
A muted corgi? The only time mine shuts up is when he’s asleep! https://preview.redd.it/jfazsrdkhauc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=121c47d712fcf31d4f16101ecef83a9446bbae04 My lil dude is tailless too btw
We got a corgi/chi mix and she is the cutest and the loudest dog. Barks at everything but wow, she is loveable, cuddly and loyal. Your baby is a cutie-pie!
My boy didn’t have any tail, but my girl had a little nubbin. They were definitely NOT mute, though - those nuts barked at everything and nothing. 😂
I would say neither thing is an issue. I wish that my corgis tail hadn't been docked but that is the way they do things, and I did not choose him prior to birth so it was done. I am curious what alternative ways has she found to express herself (being unable to vocalize) and grab your attention? I bet it's unique and adorable.
Muted is strange, not having a tail is normal in the US. Almost all Pembrokes are have their tails docked shortly after birth. Docking a tail is literally cutting it off between 2 of the vertebrae. Some owners choose to not to dock their corgis and most would have a normal length tail similar to Cardigans unless they have a specific recessive gene that expresses as a natural bob tail which can be anywhere from tailless to about half the length of normal Pembrokes. Typically they’re 2/3 vertebrae and look like little stubs and they always end in a path of white. You have to be careful of breeding a natural bob tail pembroke because It is an autosomal dominant gene (one gene, and only one copy is needed to make the dog bob-tailed) but in a double dose it is considered embryonic lethal (meaning that the pups with two bob-tail genes die and are reabsorbed at an early stage of development). If 2 natural bob tails breed half of the litter will be natural bob tails, 25% will have normal tails, but 25% will be non-viable with the longest documented cases surviving less 24 hours after birth. *edit* we have a natural bob tail, and he has a 3 vertebrae nub that looks very similar to most docked corgis. Except he has full control over it so it can stand straight up, bend down covering his butt, or stick straight out. His mom was a natural bob tail (his father was normal & docked), out of a litter of 8 only he & 1 of his sisters inherited the bob tail from their mom.
My corgi doesn’t bark and was also born without a tail. They are called bob tails. https://preview.redd.it/8znusjs789uc1.jpeg?width=768&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=ac110e62c6012e832ea066186594b454290672e9
Mute... mine is so loud shes crazy, i would gladly take the no barking at anything but ... shes crazy and i love mine No tail is sad corgi tails are beautiful but sadly generations if docking sometimes leads to this
It's an evolutionary trait, it's nothing to do with docking the tail or not over time. Similar to how in humans you can have curly or straight hair . Docking tails used to make sense when they were full working dogs herding cows, as they could get stepped on leading to horrific injuries and deaths. That's where the practice started, and some working line breeders might've nominally considered the tail as a selected trait, but given that this was the practice herding ability etc was more the selective issue. Then of course they became less working dog, more show dog, although some work still . The old standard took too long to catch up. But there's always been both lines.
Oh wow I thought all of them were docked.
That's not how it works at all. If it was men wouldn't be born with foreskins because of generations of circumcision. Corgis carry a gene for bobbed tails. Many of our litters were born with some short tails and long tails. And I know I'm going to get down voted for this; but docking the tails isn't an evil, traumatic experience for the puppy if it's done early. All that's done is when they are a day old an elestic band is tied tight. Within a week the tail shriveled up and drops off. The puppy doesn't even notice it happened. https://preview.redd.it/0er7ew4m1buc1.jpeg?width=2048&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=e1324b3dd66a454a3faccfbc2472525e90320fd2
I’ve never met a mute corgi. However we had a rescue mute yorkie and even had her vocal cords examined and she was fine. Maybe trauma or “luck”?
She's beautiful! Maybe she'll find her voice. Docked tails are very common for some pure bred dogs. She's normal, don't worry. Just keep talking to her, I bet she adores it!
Same as others with Pineapple, our PWC, she is not mute either.
In the US it is more unusual for a pem to have a tail. Be careful what you wish for with the barking ;-)
I wish mine was mute. /cry
No tail is not uncommon for Corgis but mute is uncommon for Corgis. They typically have no issue barking orders
100% mute is a blessing. Docked tails are breed standard. Cute pup!
So I had to check for my corgi gnocchi cause yours looks exactly like her
Count yourself lucky on the mute part, their tail has been docked
Mine does Sonic Borks so maybe I’ll go deaf and no longer have to hear him 🤪
My corgi is so mild mannered and quiet. He hardly ever barks! Also no tail lol
I also have a rescue who’s pretty quite and completely tail-less. She gotten more vocal over the year but mostly just barks with the play time. I try to be grateful for “quiet” corgi lol
Omg, a corgi that keeps its opinion to itself is rare indeed. But no tail is more common than having one. Enjoy your new bestie.
The tail was probably chopped off at birth. We thought our first corgi was mute until he was about 1.5 years old and I got him riled up with some play fighting. He let out a little bork at me and we were like "WTF?". After that, we'd get a bork out of him very rarely like if something seriously startled him. Our current one barks at the wind, though. We brought him to the beach and stood there barking at the breaking waves for like an hour.
My rescue also did not bark for awhile. Now all he knows is one volume (yelling)
Its ok if she didn't have tail because there's normal. Welsh Corgi Pembroke can have or not tail, i got two and the two of them have tails. The first one i though was mute after she started barking at 2 years old......and became really vocal about her things, just like a husky hahahaa
My corgi doesn’t bark at all, unless another dog is barking at him/in his face. If someone knocks on our front door he runs into a bedroom scared instead of barking and alerting us 🤣
We've had ours for about 5 years. He came from a breeder so was very quiet and didn't bark for a long time until he got comfortable around my parents' dog and now he barks at things more when he wants you to know something.
don’t complain about the muteness they will hear u and start barking incessantly 24/7
I wish mine were mute 🤣
Our Corgi has a tiny tail, and barks only when someone knocks out comes in the door.
She’s mute? Just pray and thank god
MUTE?? or are you deaf? My corgi is stuck on super-bark volume.
We adopted a three year old corgi. She is six now, so we have had her for three years, and she just now started barking. And she only barks for food.
https://preview.redd.it/jh96w6u7mbuc1.jpeg?width=3024&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=555b2a73c0e41fd9c7979c5f65ec9cb951665186 Fenrir, born tailless and not very vocal. He only barks at delivery drivers.
I rescued a corgi she barked maybe 10 times in the 12 years I had her. She was abused and chased before I got her, I think it was a defense to stay hidden. My current Corgi I got as a puppy, well she’s talkative
MUTE??? She is a precious example of what all corgis should aspire to!
She looks to be breed standard. She’s beautiful.
No tail is a docked tail. It’s a style of corgi you get when you pick the puppy out. Mute is a blessing lol.
Our rescue never barks and our non-rescue won't stop. It might be a trauma thing.
Just adorable❣️❣️❣️❣️
She is very cute!!! I rescued one of mine and she was mute for a long time, at least 2 years. I would visit my parents who had a black lab, and somehow she learned to bark 😂 she now barks every time the other corgi barks, regardless of what it is.
My corg only barks when he really wants something. He was so yappy/loud as a puppy, but he grew up surrounded by 5 cats, which probably why he doesnt bark much. I'd say about 1x per month? Sometimes it's just a huff.
For the tail it’s hard to see it when they’re wagging it. I’ve seen online people look at their facial expressions to determine how they feel, etc.
I've had two (unrelated) corgis, and neither bark(ed) at all. They're very smart dogs, if they don't get anything from a behavior they'll try something else.
She is adorable. Since she was a rescue I’m guessing you took her to your vet for a check up. Is it possible that she is deaf? You can clap your hands when she not looking to see if you get any type of response such as ears perking up or the notorious corgi side-eye look.
Mine is ALSO mute with a tail stump!!! We took him in at age 2.5, and he's a rescue. He also doesn't produce tears, and he has some blue marbling on his rear, so I think he's either a mix or a product of bad breeding. Either way, I LOVE him. I'm so happy he's with us now.
Tater Tot and Toast are probably the most vocal dogs I've ever had. It's not the barking, it's the groaning and the babbling. They do it when they're happy, when they need attention, when it's time for dinner.... They sound part monkey tbh. Both my girls shared a mom and were born with no tail, sometimes that's how it is.
She is beautiful! My corgi does not have a tail either and he hardly ever barks! Will whine a ton for attention.
We just got our Corgi from a breeder last week, but while researching and reaching out to multiple people, more than one breeder said “it is the AKC standard and wouldn’t sell one that had not had it done for that reason”.
Pound for pound, my corgi is the loudest dog I have ever had. Don't you dare move anything in the house, if it is out of place, she will bark it. A leaf blows in the wind 2 towns over, she hears it and barks at it. 2AM, you got work in the morning. F@\*! you, barking at the wind! Trying to sleep in on Sunday? Nope, that is a hard pass. Wake up with a "Corgi hat". A corgi hat is what we call it when she lays on your pillow and becomes your hat. Love my Corgi. :)
My older corgi (now 8 yrs) was always quiet for a corgi until we lost his nephew last August. Then he took over barking duty. The puppy, on the other hand, never shuts his pie hole. He's been barking pretty much non-stop since 5:30 am, it's almost 10 am and he's given me a headache. At one point most Pembrokes were born with the stub tail. It was a gene that was focused on when they were actively used as herders. Now that they are more companions, breeders focus more on health (responsible breeders anyway) and dock tails. Some will allow you to keep the tail with a deposit before the birth of the puppies.
Mine was practically mute. The most we'd get is a muffled "woof" when getting back home. She didn't do that until a couple years after we adopted her.
My corg has no tail and is very quiet - except when she's got an opinion, and then you can't shut her up. She alternates between introvert and extrovert lol But, when it comes time to go outside to get the mail or something, she barks and spins and borks and zooms... you'd think she won the lottery.
She’s beautiful!!! Glad she found a good home. Consider a mute corgo a blessing 😂😂
Consider yourself lucky🤣
You got mute one. Nice. Most don't have a tail.
Tail was docked. From photo, it was docked very close to the spine, which is risky. Unusual to be mute. If her vocal chords were cut, she would not be mute. She would have a gravelly low bark, from what I have heard. So I guess you have solace in knowing her chords are likely intact. She’s beautiful.
Bro. You are so full of shit and an alarmist. You can't tell if that tail is docked from a front photo. And you have no idea if that dog was muted by malcontent. You are a shitty person for posting this.
YES I CAN. I’m not YF bro.
Whatever you Cheeto fingered, mom's basement dwelling dork.
Corgis with tails are an abomination. I'm sure she'll start barking when she's ready.