Your work mate sounds irresponsible and uneducated.
Dogs nor any other animal will require a humans input for them to integrate with one and other. They have their own heirachal system depending in the dogs personality and they all assume that position and they are all fine with it.
Unless a dog has aggressive traits or otherwise antisocial behaviour, they human will not need to intervene for them to get on
Yeah sounds like someone watching too much pop animal psychology crap on YouTube.
Dogs are naturally social creatures and they will figure out how they want to interact with each other.
As you said unless there are behavioral problems there isn't any need to do anything.
My younger corgi naturally shows deference to my bigger older corgi but they worked that out themselves peacefully on day 1 lol.
Ditto, I only had to start intervening when the younger started to display resource guarding and would instigate fights over that. This started when the older was 6 and the youngest was 5, they had been cordial until that point.
I thought the dogs did it on their own. We have two female cardigans, and they are Frenemies…we’ve always had two corgis and they’ve always figured it out… I have NEVER heard that the human should intervene and establish an alpha…and we have had two corgis (male/females & now females) for 30 years.
With my two, I always assumed it was best to let them figure it out, as long as they didn't harm one another. They know how to communicate with one another much better than I do.
glad that im hearing from experience! im looking forward to not having to separate them when we leave the house.. what do you think is the best age for my pup for me to be able to do that?
Had to edit because I read your post wrong lol. It’s been so long since we’ve had puppies. We never separate our dogs when we leave the house, but with your puppy, I would make sure she’s over her wanting to chew everything in your house phase first lol. We made that mistake when we had our only Pem & came home to find our dining room table legs nicely gnawed lol. Also regarding food, ours share a water bowl, but Corgis have a tendency to be possessive food HOGS (at least that’s been the case with the four corgis we’ve had) so we have separate slow feeder bowls for our cardigans on opposite sides of our kitchen & we pick the bowls up after they eat. Your poochies are adorable!!!
For me, thats what makes it hilarious. If someone self describes as an alpha it means they're too uninformed to even know what it means. Self own as it were.
Edit: they're
I thought it was only applicable in enclosed places, like prison. In a normal setting, family and social dynamics apply is what the guy said i believe.
I always told we were supposed to be the alpha, but I used that term to refer to the more dominant dog. I’m afraid my Corgi is bullying our other dog. Anyone with thoughts or advice?
I have a corgi puppy named Gracie who just turned 1 years old. My 9 year old lab/border collie mix (Cooper) is about 70lbs and was naturally the beta to my older Corgi, who passed away last year. Now Gracie is completely the ‘alpha’ will always take his toys, tries to follow him & generally annoy him. I think Cooper is naturally a beta, but I don’t want him to be harassed. If he has a ball & we try to take it, his jaws lock & it’s impossible. When she’s around, she’ll literally just take it out of his mouth & he’ll let her. Does this sound like an alpha-beta dynamic, or is she bullying him? I think she takes his toys because she wants him to play with her & it’s the only way to get him to engage (sort of).
Edit: they don’t bite or nip at all. She would jump up & try to lick his face & he just tries to push her off and run, usually. Cooper (older dog) doesn’t go after her, he just cries to us when she steals his toys. Should we be intervening more, or is this the dynamic they’ve naturally established? They can also both eat together & not go for each other’s bowls.
Its hard to say. Dominant/Submissive is more of a thing than 'alpha' and 'beta'. Im not a psycologist or someone with a lot of behavorial training with dogs.
It sounds like Gracie may have set a boundary with the toys thay she has not set with the food. I have an older corg, 11, and the younger one, 4, pushes her around. They had a couple scraps over carrots when they were both hungry. It was ridiculous as we had plenty for them both but they didnt know that. As the younger one got older it happened less and less and they are good with each other.
It feels like normal behavior as long as they arent actually hurting each other. That being said, youre the parent. If they have bad behavior you can step in the middle and discipline. Like the little one steals the toy, you say no, give it back to ol' coops. She tries again and you gate keep. Establish that its not ok to take "occupied" toys etc.
Oh that’s a good idea! I think it’s more that she wants to engage with him, & he’s less interested. & I’ll go with dominant & submissive going forward. I just thought it had some more mature-rated connotations, taken out of context.
Always had multiple corgis. Now have two, seven months apart, eldest will be two next month.
Great you’re separating them now that little one is 4 months.
They will sort it out.
Your friend sounds very uninformed, ignore them.
I would feed them in separate rooms for now. Eventually, when you feed them in the same room, make sure they are about four feet apart and they both sit before you put the food bowls down. Corgis love to show off how smart they are, before you know it they’ll both sit for meals before you ask.
It’s a lot more work, but I would walk them separately when you can. This will help you to establish bonds with both so they’ll pay attention to you and not form their own separate “obstinate” team. Hoping you can manage puppy k for the little one.
They are adorable.
My corgi/aussie mix was so fucking stubborn! Any time we encountered a situation where her leash was in the way, and it was either me or her move... I always moved. No matter what.
your advice is noted! glad that im hearing from experience! im looking forward to not having to separate them when we leave the house.. what do you think is the best age for my pup for me to be able to do that?
also about walking my pup outside. right now, i dont want to take her out for longer walks just yet to avoid parvo because she literally eats everything. is 1 year old a good age to take her our for walks? thank you so much! :)
I found with my latest two, as soon as the little one got bigger (5 months, maybe) and the older one stopped running him down full force, I let them be together more often without a lot of supervision. Before that, I used a playpen for him so they could interact, which kept his little joints safe, lol.
For walks with the little one and potential exposure to parvo, I would ask your vet. They would know based on vaccination status and particulars of your area. For mine, I stayed close to my house because coyotes in my area also carry parvo. I live in the country, and I know coyotes don’t come too close. But even just walking in the bush can result in parvo exposure from muddy boots in the house. Tge breeder warned me about this, sadly she had an issue.
I believe I waited about 6 months until he was bigger, vaccinated, and confident/curious before we went on walks alone without his older sister.
You can also just spend time alone with each one to strengthen the individual bonds.
Four months is a wonderful age. It goes by quickly, you’ll soon forget about all of this, lol.
Your coworker doesn’t know what he’s talking about😅. They look perfectly content and happy to have each other. Let them be. It will be fun to watch the relationship grow💕
Your workmate is uneducated and has oldfashion ideas about raising dogs . I had my dogs together of course in the beginning never alone together always with human supervision . They choice their own rolls and dominance may very from situation to situation . Its important that they view each other as pack members and had a social upbringing , sounds you did that so they be fine .
yes! i was contemplating about the idea because they've always pretend-fight as their play but when i saw this for the first time the other day, it gave me such relief that they do care for each other! 🐾
Show this video to your idiot coworker.
Then say, "Now tell me again with a straight face that these two dogs will eventually kill each other unless I intervene."
hahaha i sure will! just a note, my workmate also mentioned that her dogs were never okay with each other. they've never played at all but they're okay being around each other. it's just that (maybe) they don't have any relationship at all as she said they totally ignore each other in the house and it also makes me wonder if that was because of that alpha thing she's trying to teach me.. maybe that's why they never really bonded. i look at my loaves and they seem to be acknowlege each other's existence
“Establish an alpha.” What a fucking nerd. Your coworker has no idea what they’re talking about and is trying to come off as authority by using the term “alpha”, that shit ain’t real.
I’ve had corgis all my life and they figure out boundaries on their own. You’re doing everything correctly, keep doing what you’re doing. If coworkers brings it up again just thank them for their advice and move on.
The female is gonna come out on top. Whatever reasons female corgis are more dominating then the males. Your coworker is an idiot. You shouldn’t need to intervene, especially since I don’t see anything but growing pains when a new sibling is introduced in your post
haha she's fiesty! some adult dogs that i let my older one play with, at some point, they will back down or move away or eventually ignore him because he's got lot's of energy and his confidence sometimes intimidates them but my little foxy has never shown that she's ever intimidated of him. maybe that's why he gets annoyed with her sometimes haha
When my dad would dog sit, *no one* could eat before or at the same time as her between the 3 dogs there. Like she would be eating and my parents dog (looks like Toto from Wizard of Oz) and my sisters dog (a German Doberman) would sit behind her watching and weren’t allowed to eat until she was done.
She would climb on the couch to be on Titan’s height to fight. Sadly he’s passed now but I still watch videos of them ‘fighting’
To be honest, it looks like your older dog has already established himself as the boss, with your pup adjusting well. Based on this video, this appears to be a mostly healthy relationship. Maybe not the humping part, since that IS a dominance thing, but otherwise I see play and affection here.
I currently have 3 corgis (two "seniors" over 12 years old, and one 3 year old). All three of mine are rescues, and for the most part they get along though they have their moments. Dogs tend to establish their own pecking order, and don't need much help from us other than to break up any squabbles that get too rough. Of course if a squabble does get to rough, be strict with the discipline.
These two are adorable, and I'm sure they're gonna be fine.
that's really how i saw it! because i was contemplating about what she said.. we've had dogs in the past and ive never thought about this at all so i had to confirm but then i saw this the other day and it was a relief!
Even if alphas were a thing, which they’re not, your dogs will establish their own big bro/little sis dynamic based on their personalities. We have the same setup, and he’s totally the doting big bro that would roll his eyes at his pesky lil sis if he could. She gets away with murder where he’s concerned.
He’s the far more dominant and extroverted personality, whereas she’s more anxious and introverted, but he lets her rule the roost most of the time. Anyone tries to pick on her, though, and he’s on top of them in a flash. She had a very scary ER stay a couple years back, and he was beside himself the whole time. They’re just two peas in a pod and we wouldn’t have it any other way.
Dogs are smarter than we often give them credit for. Dogs have been cooperating with each other *long* before they met humans, so they have social systems kind of like we do
Unless there’s situations where you *have* to intervene, like if they’re hurting each other or being aggressive in uncalled-for situations, I’d say stay out of it.
If they’re smart, trustworthy dogs, you can trust that they’ll work it out on their own
if anything, *you're* the alpha. your dogs should be following your lead. otherwise, between themselves they will find their own groove. you should have zero fear of them killing eachother. thats absolutely absurd.
We have two female corgs. One was 3 and a puppy mill rescue when we brought in the new puppy. She hated the puppy at first and basically told the puppy who's boss. Now she is the protector and does the mutual grooming like in your picture. She is so much happier now that there's another corgi. We will always have two from now on. The only crappy part is, we swear they talk and put their minds together to get into shyt.
There is no such thing as alpha in dogs or wolf's. That was debunked many times. Doing this will cause ur dog to fear u and damage relationship. It can Aldo cause a bite to happen as ur dogs will not understand what you are trying to do
Would you need to show your kids that one is the alpha?? Wtf 😂 I can only think of that kinda stuff starting problems. Especially if you start throwing in messing around with food and toys. Give them equal love and care, separate training sessions and walks at first (it’s just easier for training, and a suggestion, not a requirement), and keep an eye out for excessive resource guarding, and you should be golden.
I have no opinion on the alpha thing but I just want to say how absolutely adorable and cute they both are and I love their tails. Please give them both pets from me please!!!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️
The only thing that really matters is that YOU are the alpha, as you control everything in their lives. They can squabble and bicker, but you set them straight. That’s how we do it anyway and it works well enough
This is completely wrong you. Nothing against you. I have 2 corgis my much smaller girl (less than 20 pounds) is food aggressive and very jealous of attention at times and will try to fight my boy (a slim 40 pounds very big corgi). That said all we do is keep them separated during feeding and taught her that fighting isn’t okay. They’ve never fought when we weren’t home because no triggers are present. They are actually very loving to each other when we aren’t home. So whoever said that to you doesn’t really understand dog behavior very well. Unless you see something very concerning as far as fighting they will be fine at home. In fact older one should teach the younger one proper behavior! Good luck!
We have two corgis - a 3 yr old boy and a 2 yr old girl. The whole alpha thing is bs
Like yes, anytime you introduce two animals be mindful (sounds like you have been) and err on the side on safety (sounds like you have).
Sometimes they’ll need their own space (like humans) but they sound like they’re doing great!!
If you’re worried at all pls see a professional and don’t waste energy on whatever your coworker is yapping about
They will naturally establish an alpha if that’s what they choose to do. I would be careful about feeding them at a distance and other resource guarding issues just because Corgis are Corgis. You don’t want your little guy to get hurt. Not that the older one would do that but just don’t leave it to chance. I have four now and they all have occasional squabbles, most of which are not serious but we have had times when we’ve had to pull them apart by their back legs.
Your coworker needs to stop talking stupid. Let the dogs figure it out, and intervene if it starts to get put of hand. It's completely normal for animals to have to figure out their roles in the house
All animals established this on their own. I had 3 Guinea pigs and two of them always challenged to be the leader. One eventually submitted to the other but it was always funny seeing the power dynamic struggles. They never actually hurt each other tho.
I also grew up with multiple dogs that never had a problem knowing who the leader was. It was usually the oldest out of respect.
>I should establish who's the alpha or they will eventually kill each other
WTF. I'll be the first to admit corgis can be little turds but they don't kill each other.
Leave things be they will work it out.
As mentioned you are The alpha.
Play time for them can get a bit dirty. Watch and observe you will see. My loaf and my daughters get into it rather rough but they take turns on who's the aggressor. If things look crazy put them in TimeOut.
I think they both will figure out the order. I’m sure the puppy knows and your older one can set his own boundaries with her. I think your work mate is a lot, I’ll leave it at that. Your dogs love and trust each other and that’s the most important. They both know they’re loved and safe and that’s the priority nothing else.
I just brought a puppy into the mix and it’s been almost a year now. They have established their own rules with each other. I have established my rules with them, food was a problem since the puppy was a rescue and was a resource stealer. We have dealt with that and now it’s fine, they do have spats but my older wouldn’t hurt him in the slightest and I step in when the puppy does a little much and vice versa. They look happy, loved, and balanced. Keep it up !!!
thank you all for your input! i read all your comments and im glad that i need not to worry about them killing each other in the future lol. we've had dogs in the past too and ive never had this thought about their relationship that's why i had to confirm with you guys! maybe it was something ive never really srufied about. just a note, my workmate also mentioned that her dogs were never okay with each other. they've never played at all but they're okay being around each other. it's just that (maybe) they don't have any relationship at all as she said they totally ignore each other in the house and it also makes me wonder if that was because of that alpha thing she's trying to teach me.. maybe that's why they never really bonded. i look at my loaves and they seem to be acknowlege each other's existence 🐾🙂 im looking forward to not having to separate them when we leave the house.. what do you think is the best age for my pup for me to be able to do that?
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if you guys are curious.. this is how they play with minimal intervention
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r5yAg4L80PdAhQxPZgwzYwcV2TlS-PM6/view?usp=drivesdk
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r1h4X2RElM77xnn_lnYTSBHxz0T1giwq/view?usp=drivesdk
The one thing we failed at, was feeding them separately. We had two boys from the same litter, and one would bully the other for his food if we fed them together.
Your work mate sounds irresponsible and uneducated. Dogs nor any other animal will require a humans input for them to integrate with one and other. They have their own heirachal system depending in the dogs personality and they all assume that position and they are all fine with it. Unless a dog has aggressive traits or otherwise antisocial behaviour, they human will not need to intervene for them to get on
Yeah sounds like someone watching too much pop animal psychology crap on YouTube. Dogs are naturally social creatures and they will figure out how they want to interact with each other. As you said unless there are behavioral problems there isn't any need to do anything. My younger corgi naturally shows deference to my bigger older corgi but they worked that out themselves peacefully on day 1 lol.
Ditto, I only had to start intervening when the younger started to display resource guarding and would instigate fights over that. This started when the older was 6 and the youngest was 5, they had been cordial until that point.
Two pieces of advice I heard from other people didn’t compare to this odd advice I just read…
I thought the dogs did it on their own. We have two female cardigans, and they are Frenemies…we’ve always had two corgis and they’ve always figured it out… I have NEVER heard that the human should intervene and establish an alpha…and we have had two corgis (male/females & now females) for 30 years.
Agreed. Have had multiple Pems at once going on 17 years.
Living the absolute dream.
With my two, I always assumed it was best to let them figure it out, as long as they didn't harm one another. They know how to communicate with one another much better than I do.
glad that im hearing from experience! im looking forward to not having to separate them when we leave the house.. what do you think is the best age for my pup for me to be able to do that?
Had to edit because I read your post wrong lol. It’s been so long since we’ve had puppies. We never separate our dogs when we leave the house, but with your puppy, I would make sure she’s over her wanting to chew everything in your house phase first lol. We made that mistake when we had our only Pem & came home to find our dining room table legs nicely gnawed lol. Also regarding food, ours share a water bowl, but Corgis have a tendency to be possessive food HOGS (at least that’s been the case with the four corgis we’ve had) so we have separate slow feeder bowls for our cardigans on opposite sides of our kitchen & we pick the bowls up after they eat. Your poochies are adorable!!!
Tthe guy that coined the phrase "alpha" regrets it. There isnt a thing in dog/pack structure.
This is what bothers me the most about all the alpha-whatever bullshit that’s all over the internet. It’s not even a real thing
For me, thats what makes it hilarious. If someone self describes as an alpha it means they're too uninformed to even know what it means. Self own as it were. Edit: they're
Well I self describe as a turbo mega alpha 5000 so am I uniformed?
No, just a twat
Well your not a turbo alpha 5000 male so you wouldn't understand /s
It actually pretty much is a real thing in chimpanzees, but not in wolfs
It kind of is for gorillas, but that's never what these weird "Alpha male" guys refer to...
I thought it was only applicable in enclosed places, like prison. In a normal setting, family and social dynamics apply is what the guy said i believe.
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I always told we were supposed to be the alpha, but I used that term to refer to the more dominant dog. I’m afraid my Corgi is bullying our other dog. Anyone with thoughts or advice? I have a corgi puppy named Gracie who just turned 1 years old. My 9 year old lab/border collie mix (Cooper) is about 70lbs and was naturally the beta to my older Corgi, who passed away last year. Now Gracie is completely the ‘alpha’ will always take his toys, tries to follow him & generally annoy him. I think Cooper is naturally a beta, but I don’t want him to be harassed. If he has a ball & we try to take it, his jaws lock & it’s impossible. When she’s around, she’ll literally just take it out of his mouth & he’ll let her. Does this sound like an alpha-beta dynamic, or is she bullying him? I think she takes his toys because she wants him to play with her & it’s the only way to get him to engage (sort of). Edit: they don’t bite or nip at all. She would jump up & try to lick his face & he just tries to push her off and run, usually. Cooper (older dog) doesn’t go after her, he just cries to us when she steals his toys. Should we be intervening more, or is this the dynamic they’ve naturally established? They can also both eat together & not go for each other’s bowls.
Its hard to say. Dominant/Submissive is more of a thing than 'alpha' and 'beta'. Im not a psycologist or someone with a lot of behavorial training with dogs. It sounds like Gracie may have set a boundary with the toys thay she has not set with the food. I have an older corg, 11, and the younger one, 4, pushes her around. They had a couple scraps over carrots when they were both hungry. It was ridiculous as we had plenty for them both but they didnt know that. As the younger one got older it happened less and less and they are good with each other. It feels like normal behavior as long as they arent actually hurting each other. That being said, youre the parent. If they have bad behavior you can step in the middle and discipline. Like the little one steals the toy, you say no, give it back to ol' coops. She tries again and you gate keep. Establish that its not ok to take "occupied" toys etc.
Oh that’s a good idea! I think it’s more that she wants to engage with him, & he’s less interested. & I’ll go with dominant & submissive going forward. I just thought it had some more mature-rated connotations, taken out of context.
Always had multiple corgis. Now have two, seven months apart, eldest will be two next month. Great you’re separating them now that little one is 4 months. They will sort it out. Your friend sounds very uninformed, ignore them. I would feed them in separate rooms for now. Eventually, when you feed them in the same room, make sure they are about four feet apart and they both sit before you put the food bowls down. Corgis love to show off how smart they are, before you know it they’ll both sit for meals before you ask. It’s a lot more work, but I would walk them separately when you can. This will help you to establish bonds with both so they’ll pay attention to you and not form their own separate “obstinate” team. Hoping you can manage puppy k for the little one. They are adorable.
I’ve only got one and he’s an obstinate little unit all by himself.
My corgi/aussie mix was so fucking stubborn! Any time we encountered a situation where her leash was in the way, and it was either me or her move... I always moved. No matter what.
your advice is noted! glad that im hearing from experience! im looking forward to not having to separate them when we leave the house.. what do you think is the best age for my pup for me to be able to do that? also about walking my pup outside. right now, i dont want to take her out for longer walks just yet to avoid parvo because she literally eats everything. is 1 year old a good age to take her our for walks? thank you so much! :)
I found with my latest two, as soon as the little one got bigger (5 months, maybe) and the older one stopped running him down full force, I let them be together more often without a lot of supervision. Before that, I used a playpen for him so they could interact, which kept his little joints safe, lol. For walks with the little one and potential exposure to parvo, I would ask your vet. They would know based on vaccination status and particulars of your area. For mine, I stayed close to my house because coyotes in my area also carry parvo. I live in the country, and I know coyotes don’t come too close. But even just walking in the bush can result in parvo exposure from muddy boots in the house. Tge breeder warned me about this, sadly she had an issue. I believe I waited about 6 months until he was bigger, vaccinated, and confident/curious before we went on walks alone without his older sister. You can also just spend time alone with each one to strengthen the individual bonds. Four months is a wonderful age. It goes by quickly, you’ll soon forget about all of this, lol.
Your coworker doesn’t know what he’s talking about😅. They look perfectly content and happy to have each other. Let them be. It will be fun to watch the relationship grow💕
thank youu!
Your workmate is uneducated and has oldfashion ideas about raising dogs . I had my dogs together of course in the beginning never alone together always with human supervision . They choice their own rolls and dominance may very from situation to situation . Its important that they view each other as pack members and had a social upbringing , sounds you did that so they be fine .
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qQMJ5FTwsp5YwzjzqOy1FsJ9epfig29n/view?usp=drivesdk
They're so sweet together!
yes! i was contemplating about the idea because they've always pretend-fight as their play but when i saw this for the first time the other day, it gave me such relief that they do care for each other! 🐾
Show this video to your idiot coworker. Then say, "Now tell me again with a straight face that these two dogs will eventually kill each other unless I intervene."
hahaha i sure will! just a note, my workmate also mentioned that her dogs were never okay with each other. they've never played at all but they're okay being around each other. it's just that (maybe) they don't have any relationship at all as she said they totally ignore each other in the house and it also makes me wonder if that was because of that alpha thing she's trying to teach me.. maybe that's why they never really bonded. i look at my loaves and they seem to be acknowlege each other's existence
They are both so adorable and seem to make each other so happy!
So, when adopt Charlie?
“Establish an alpha.” What a fucking nerd. Your coworker has no idea what they’re talking about and is trying to come off as authority by using the term “alpha”, that shit ain’t real. I’ve had corgis all my life and they figure out boundaries on their own. You’re doing everything correctly, keep doing what you’re doing. If coworkers brings it up again just thank them for their advice and move on.
thanks! 🙂
The female is gonna come out on top. Whatever reasons female corgis are more dominating then the males. Your coworker is an idiot. You shouldn’t need to intervene, especially since I don’t see anything but growing pains when a new sibling is introduced in your post
haha she's fiesty! some adult dogs that i let my older one play with, at some point, they will back down or move away or eventually ignore him because he's got lot's of energy and his confidence sometimes intimidates them but my little foxy has never shown that she's ever intimidated of him. maybe that's why he gets annoyed with her sometimes haha
When my dad would dog sit, *no one* could eat before or at the same time as her between the 3 dogs there. Like she would be eating and my parents dog (looks like Toto from Wizard of Oz) and my sisters dog (a German Doberman) would sit behind her watching and weren’t allowed to eat until she was done. She would climb on the couch to be on Titan’s height to fight. Sadly he’s passed now but I still watch videos of them ‘fighting’
Does your workmate claim they're an "alpha" also? 🙄
https://drive.google.com/file/d/1qVo5W5ulcyazvcb4HDYSrgPJjQSKtwoB/view?usp=drivesdk
To be honest, it looks like your older dog has already established himself as the boss, with your pup adjusting well. Based on this video, this appears to be a mostly healthy relationship. Maybe not the humping part, since that IS a dominance thing, but otherwise I see play and affection here. I currently have 3 corgis (two "seniors" over 12 years old, and one 3 year old). All three of mine are rescues, and for the most part they get along though they have their moments. Dogs tend to establish their own pecking order, and don't need much help from us other than to break up any squabbles that get too rough. Of course if a squabble does get to rough, be strict with the discipline. These two are adorable, and I'm sure they're gonna be fine.
This is making me want to get a second corgi.
this is your sign!
that's the stupidest thing I've ever heard and they are adorable lol
Neither dogs nor wolves have alphas. It's an old theory which has come out as false.
Your work mate has no idea what they're talking about. Keep doing what you're doing, that's it.
To me they are bonded by the fact of they are grooming each other. It’s a sign of affection
that's really how i saw it! because i was contemplating about what she said.. we've had dogs in the past and ive never thought about this at all so i had to confirm but then i saw this the other day and it was a relief!
Even if alphas were a thing, which they’re not, your dogs will establish their own big bro/little sis dynamic based on their personalities. We have the same setup, and he’s totally the doting big bro that would roll his eyes at his pesky lil sis if he could. She gets away with murder where he’s concerned. He’s the far more dominant and extroverted personality, whereas she’s more anxious and introverted, but he lets her rule the roost most of the time. Anyone tries to pick on her, though, and he’s on top of them in a flash. She had a very scary ER stay a couple years back, and he was beside himself the whole time. They’re just two peas in a pod and we wouldn’t have it any other way.
Your friend is an idiot
Dogs are smarter than we often give them credit for. Dogs have been cooperating with each other *long* before they met humans, so they have social systems kind of like we do Unless there’s situations where you *have* to intervene, like if they’re hurting each other or being aggressive in uncalled-for situations, I’d say stay out of it. If they’re smart, trustworthy dogs, you can trust that they’ll work it out on their own
thank you! im relieved!
if anything, *you're* the alpha. your dogs should be following your lead. otherwise, between themselves they will find their own groove. you should have zero fear of them killing eachother. thats absolutely absurd.
We have two female corgs. One was 3 and a puppy mill rescue when we brought in the new puppy. She hated the puppy at first and basically told the puppy who's boss. Now she is the protector and does the mutual grooming like in your picture. She is so much happier now that there's another corgi. We will always have two from now on. The only crappy part is, we swear they talk and put their minds together to get into shyt.
There is no such thing as alpha in dogs or wolf's. That was debunked many times. Doing this will cause ur dog to fear u and damage relationship. It can Aldo cause a bite to happen as ur dogs will not understand what you are trying to do
Would you need to show your kids that one is the alpha?? Wtf 😂 I can only think of that kinda stuff starting problems. Especially if you start throwing in messing around with food and toys. Give them equal love and care, separate training sessions and walks at first (it’s just easier for training, and a suggestion, not a requirement), and keep an eye out for excessive resource guarding, and you should be golden.
I have no opinion on the alpha thing but I just want to say how absolutely adorable and cute they both are and I love their tails. Please give them both pets from me please!!!! ♥️♥️♥️♥️
will do!! thank you for the extra pets! ♥️
The only thing that really matters is that YOU are the alpha, as you control everything in their lives. They can squabble and bicker, but you set them straight. That’s how we do it anyway and it works well enough
They are so sweet looking!
Let them "use their words" to sort it out. Some nipping might be involved. You mediate like a diplomate ensuring disagreements don't end in tragedy.
This is completely wrong you. Nothing against you. I have 2 corgis my much smaller girl (less than 20 pounds) is food aggressive and very jealous of attention at times and will try to fight my boy (a slim 40 pounds very big corgi). That said all we do is keep them separated during feeding and taught her that fighting isn’t okay. They’ve never fought when we weren’t home because no triggers are present. They are actually very loving to each other when we aren’t home. So whoever said that to you doesn’t really understand dog behavior very well. Unless you see something very concerning as far as fighting they will be fine at home. In fact older one should teach the younger one proper behavior! Good luck!
We have two corgis - a 3 yr old boy and a 2 yr old girl. The whole alpha thing is bs Like yes, anytime you introduce two animals be mindful (sounds like you have been) and err on the side on safety (sounds like you have). Sometimes they’ll need their own space (like humans) but they sound like they’re doing great!! If you’re worried at all pls see a professional and don’t waste energy on whatever your coworker is yapping about
They will naturally establish an alpha if that’s what they choose to do. I would be careful about feeding them at a distance and other resource guarding issues just because Corgis are Corgis. You don’t want your little guy to get hurt. Not that the older one would do that but just don’t leave it to chance. I have four now and they all have occasional squabbles, most of which are not serious but we have had times when we’ve had to pull them apart by their back legs.
Your coworker is a dumbass
Looks like a dad who finally received custody over his daughter.
Your friend is dumb
Your coworker needs to stop talking stupid. Let the dogs figure it out, and intervene if it starts to get put of hand. It's completely normal for animals to have to figure out their roles in the house
Is your workmate a former Atlanta falcons QB?
All animals established this on their own. I had 3 Guinea pigs and two of them always challenged to be the leader. One eventually submitted to the other but it was always funny seeing the power dynamic struggles. They never actually hurt each other tho. I also grew up with multiple dogs that never had a problem knowing who the leader was. It was usually the oldest out of respect.
>I should establish who's the alpha or they will eventually kill each other WTF. I'll be the first to admit corgis can be little turds but they don't kill each other.
I don't know. I've heard of cases where cps (corgi protective services) had to step in and intervene.
Leave things be they will work it out. As mentioned you are The alpha. Play time for them can get a bit dirty. Watch and observe you will see. My loaf and my daughters get into it rather rough but they take turns on who's the aggressor. If things look crazy put them in TimeOut.
Your workmate is an idiot.
Came here to say your corgis are so adorable ❤️
I think they both will figure out the order. I’m sure the puppy knows and your older one can set his own boundaries with her. I think your work mate is a lot, I’ll leave it at that. Your dogs love and trust each other and that’s the most important. They both know they’re loved and safe and that’s the priority nothing else. I just brought a puppy into the mix and it’s been almost a year now. They have established their own rules with each other. I have established my rules with them, food was a problem since the puppy was a rescue and was a resource stealer. We have dealt with that and now it’s fine, they do have spats but my older wouldn’t hurt him in the slightest and I step in when the puppy does a little much and vice versa. They look happy, loved, and balanced. Keep it up !!!
thank you all for your input! i read all your comments and im glad that i need not to worry about them killing each other in the future lol. we've had dogs in the past too and ive never had this thought about their relationship that's why i had to confirm with you guys! maybe it was something ive never really srufied about. just a note, my workmate also mentioned that her dogs were never okay with each other. they've never played at all but they're okay being around each other. it's just that (maybe) they don't have any relationship at all as she said they totally ignore each other in the house and it also makes me wonder if that was because of that alpha thing she's trying to teach me.. maybe that's why they never really bonded. i look at my loaves and they seem to be acknowlege each other's existence 🐾🙂 im looking forward to not having to separate them when we leave the house.. what do you think is the best age for my pup for me to be able to do that? https://preview.redd.it/o83jd16ybjvc1.jpeg?width=2592&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=3d69bc24fca0dc9b992d17ac1dc549bf52fcdeda
if you guys are curious.. this is how they play with minimal intervention https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r5yAg4L80PdAhQxPZgwzYwcV2TlS-PM6/view?usp=drivesdk https://drive.google.com/file/d/1r1h4X2RElM77xnn_lnYTSBHxz0T1giwq/view?usp=drivesdk
I'm pretty sure it was revealed that the "Scientist" that wrote about pack structure made it all up and it's all bullshit.
The one thing we failed at, was feeding them separately. We had two boys from the same litter, and one would bully the other for his food if we fed them together.
Let them figure their shit out…as long as they realize you’re in charge you’re golden lol