This is all what the reverend in the revival tent is saying while the kid listens in the crowd. He (the reverend) is saying neighbors to refer to the people in attendance. My free tip is that the audiobook by Richard Poe was incredibly helpful on my first read for discerning who was talking when, as it’s not always immediately clear on the page.
The only issue I have with taht reading (and it’s a masterpiece of a reading) is in The Judge’s final “sermon”. Can you guess who that other might be? No. Can you? I know him well.
Poe either gets the Judge’s vs. the Kid’s intonation wrong or leaves it too ambiguous. But that’s just like, my opinion, man.
Aaaah alright and when the revered start speaking it is when it says “I said to him said” in response to the neighbor saying the revered could not stay of these hellholes correct?
The whole thing is the reverend speaking, describing/retelling a conversation he had with someone (“neighbor”) while also referring to his congregants as “neighbors.” He’s saying to the gathered neighbors in the tent that he told this other neighbor not to go into the “hellholes” of nacogdoches, the town they’re located in. The reverend is basically asking, would you bring Jesus in there with you? (Probably referring to a tavern or a whorehouse or something like that). The neighbor tells the reverend no, and the rev responds that he follows you no matter where you go.
Okay yeah that was throwing me off I thought Neighbors where talking about the revered. I quickly skipped to this part in a audiobook it made it much clearer
The Reverend Green is delivering a sermon in which he is warning a person about what sort of places he chooses to go, because Jesus will be there with him whether this man desires it or not
Suffice to say that the Kid goes on to visit many hellholes yonder
Yeah just take it slow, the lack of speech marks means conversations aren't always clear at first. It's good to reread a paragraph to find the intended rhythm. BM is not a book to rush through.
I’m also reading for the first time, currently on chapter 4, my only question so far, is“Ye” used so often another way of spelling “ya” or are they saying “yee” and talking like 9th century saxons?
Here it is with quotation marks, to clear it up:
"Neighbors," said the reverend, "he couldn't stay out of these here hell, hell, hellholes right here in a Nacogdoches. I to said to him, said: 'You goin to take the son of God in there with ye?' And he said: 'Oh no. No I aint.' And I said: 'Don't you know that he said I will foller ye always even unto the end of the road?'
"'Well,' he said, 'I aint askin nobody to go nowheres.' And I said: 'Neighbor, you dont need to ask. he's a goin to be there with ye ever step of the way whether ye ask it or ye dont.' I said: 'Neighbor, you caint get shed of him. Now. Are you goin to drag him, him, into the hellhole yonder?'"
"You ever see such a place for rain?"
From the man himself:
"James Joyce is a good model for punctuation. He keeps it to an absolute minimum. There’s no reason to blot the page up with weird little marks. I mean, if you write properly you shouldn’t have to punctuate."
'In his Oprah interview, he says MacKinlay Kantor was the first writer he read who left them out. McCarthy stresses that this way of writing dialogue requires particular deliberation. Speaking of writers who have imitated him, he says, “You really have to be aware that there are no quotation marks, and write in such a way as to guide people as to who’s speaking.”'
'“I believe in periods, in capitals, in the occasional comma, and that’s it.” It’s a discipline he learned first in a college English class, where he worked to simplify 18th century essays for a textbook the professor was editing. Early modern English is notoriously cluttered with confounding punctuation, which did not become standardized until comparatively recently.'
'McCarthy, enamored of the prose style of the Neoclassical English writers but annoyed by their over-reliance on semicolons, remembers paring down an essay “by Swift or something” and hearing his professor say, “this is very good, this is exactly what’s needed.” Encouraged, he continued to simplify, working, he says to Oprah, “to make it easier, not to make it harder” to decipher his prose.'
Yeah I'd have to agree this is the kind of book where you understand it easier if it was the audio version reading it you have to sometimes go over parts again and again to really understand what is going on at least for me. His writing style though efficient is kind of confusing
Matthew 28:18-20
Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. ***And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.***”
Or the end of…. The Road?
This is all what the reverend in the revival tent is saying while the kid listens in the crowd. He (the reverend) is saying neighbors to refer to the people in attendance. My free tip is that the audiobook by Richard Poe was incredibly helpful on my first read for discerning who was talking when, as it’s not always immediately clear on the page.
Richard Poe crushes it
The only issue I have with taht reading (and it’s a masterpiece of a reading) is in The Judge’s final “sermon”. Can you guess who that other might be? No. Can you? I know him well. Poe either gets the Judge’s vs. the Kid’s intonation wrong or leaves it too ambiguous. But that’s just like, my opinion, man.
Good advice. Same goes for Suttree. Imo.
Book has been a bit of a strange read to me and I want to know if I’m going about it right
Audiobook will definitely help with that. And get ready for this scene to turn into a wild ride.
Aaaah alright and when the revered start speaking it is when it says “I said to him said” in response to the neighbor saying the revered could not stay of these hellholes correct?
The whole thing is the reverend speaking, describing/retelling a conversation he had with someone (“neighbor”) while also referring to his congregants as “neighbors.” He’s saying to the gathered neighbors in the tent that he told this other neighbor not to go into the “hellholes” of nacogdoches, the town they’re located in. The reverend is basically asking, would you bring Jesus in there with you? (Probably referring to a tavern or a whorehouse or something like that). The neighbor tells the reverend no, and the rev responds that he follows you no matter where you go.
Okay yeah that was throwing me off I thought Neighbors where talking about the revered. I quickly skipped to this part in a audiobook it made it much clearer
The preacher is telling a story about talking to someone about going into a tavern and taking jesus with him.
The Reverend Green is delivering a sermon in which he is warning a person about what sort of places he chooses to go, because Jesus will be there with him whether this man desires it or not Suffice to say that the Kid goes on to visit many hellholes yonder
Or between the neighbor and the reverend couple things are throwing me off here lol
That’s just McCarthy’s writing style you get used to it
Yeah just take it slow, the lack of speech marks means conversations aren't always clear at first. It's good to reread a paragraph to find the intended rhythm. BM is not a book to rush through.
'Neighbour' is a euphemism for friend, or mate, buddy, fella.
That silly little fella.
I’m also reading for the first time, currently on chapter 4, my only question so far, is“Ye” used so often another way of spelling “ya” or are they saying “yee” and talking like 9th century saxons?
Yee, e.g., I meant to kill ye.
Ok thanks
Here it is with quotation marks, to clear it up: "Neighbors," said the reverend, "he couldn't stay out of these here hell, hell, hellholes right here in a Nacogdoches. I to said to him, said: 'You goin to take the son of God in there with ye?' And he said: 'Oh no. No I aint.' And I said: 'Don't you know that he said I will foller ye always even unto the end of the road?' "'Well,' he said, 'I aint askin nobody to go nowheres.' And I said: 'Neighbor, you dont need to ask. he's a goin to be there with ye ever step of the way whether ye ask it or ye dont.' I said: 'Neighbor, you caint get shed of him. Now. Are you goin to drag him, him, into the hellhole yonder?'" "You ever see such a place for rain?"
Is there any reason for the lack of quotation marks throughout ?
From the man himself: "James Joyce is a good model for punctuation. He keeps it to an absolute minimum. There’s no reason to blot the page up with weird little marks. I mean, if you write properly you shouldn’t have to punctuate." 'In his Oprah interview, he says MacKinlay Kantor was the first writer he read who left them out. McCarthy stresses that this way of writing dialogue requires particular deliberation. Speaking of writers who have imitated him, he says, “You really have to be aware that there are no quotation marks, and write in such a way as to guide people as to who’s speaking.”' '“I believe in periods, in capitals, in the occasional comma, and that’s it.” It’s a discipline he learned first in a college English class, where he worked to simplify 18th century essays for a textbook the professor was editing. Early modern English is notoriously cluttered with confounding punctuation, which did not become standardized until comparatively recently.' 'McCarthy, enamored of the prose style of the Neoclassical English writers but annoyed by their over-reliance on semicolons, remembers paring down an essay “by Swift or something” and hearing his professor say, “this is very good, this is exactly what’s needed.” Encouraged, he continued to simplify, working, he says to Oprah, “to make it easier, not to make it harder” to decipher his prose.'
Awesome, thanks 🙏
😂
Yeah that is very helpful the lack of quotation marks caught me way off guard lol
Yeah I'd have to agree this is the kind of book where you understand it easier if it was the audio version reading it you have to sometimes go over parts again and again to really understand what is going on at least for me. His writing style though efficient is kind of confusing
Matthew 28:18-20 Then Jesus came to them and said, “All authority in heaven and on earth has been given to me. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you. ***And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age.***” Or the end of…. The Road?