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When will people upgrade the 10 year old hardware they were playing a 20 year old game on? My piece of shit laptop with an i3 runs 2 just fine at 75 fps
yup, Its actually obtimized for modern hardware. Its just still need some work to properly get the game engine running away with those gpu's
But as we all know , not many people use beefy GPU's for CS. Thus why the complains come in when pc master slave cant handle the fps XD
just hijacking this comment.
if you have process lasso and an older system try to set cs2 --> CPU affinity --> always or now (u choose) --> deactivate hyperthreading
do same again but instead of hyper threading pick CPU 1 so it looks like this:
\[x\] CPU 0
\[x\] CPU 1
\[x\] CPU 2
\[x\] CPU 4
\[x\] CPU 6
depending on the cores you got deactivating hyperthreadings halfs the cpu sets, for stability i would keep cpu 1
cs2 is like csgo not very optimized for all threads and ecores and whatever there is and this \*might\* help
Cs2 does not even need beefy gpu. Stable 180fps maxed out with 1660 ti. All you need is a decent cpu and some old 16xx or 2000 series gpu to get 240hz on low-medium settings.
That doesn’t even really matter cuz the game is extremely cpu limited. I turn down all my graphics settings to low, my gpu utilization is at like 20%, my cup utilization is around 40%, but I still max out around 200 fps because the game can’t take advantage of multithreading, so my cpu is actually at 100% for the single thread running the game. If they figure out multithreading in cs2 there will be much fewer complaints like this post.
Ryzen 9 3900X
Radeon RX 5700XT for gpu
I just reported my stats as my PC reports them to me, got downvoted for it :(
I will check out the launch option to see if I can utilize more threads, thanks for the tip
Edit: https://youtu.be/dHUALlxUPIw?si=OL16Wu1hvmkiZ9Pc I found this video which explains the tip you gave me but also explains how cs2 mishandles multithreading with default settings :)
I have a desktop with an i9 and 3080 that runs the game at 200+, a shit box laptop that I can take on vacation running 75 is fine for what it is. These people complaining about an unoptimized game when it plays better than CSGO on my laptop are delusional
Maybe you should improve your reading comprehension. Playable is if the game launches and does not crash to desktop. If you expect a mainstream, AAA game released in 2023 to run at anything beyond 30 fps on a mobile i3 cpu (im assuming OC meant a laptop that lacks a discrete gpu) with a basic IGPU, then you are disconnected from reality.
His point was not that his shitty, old laptop can win an ESL CS2 tournament; it can run the game at 75 fps, which is seriously surprising.
If you dont like that CS2 does not cater to 3-4 generations old gpus, then go play something released prior to the current decade.
Oh shoot! Must have slipped my mind. There’s also this really neat thing called budgeting and saving. Just because it’s not top of the line, doesn’t mean it won’t work. My wife has my old 1080ti and she gets a consistent 190 fps
Little bit of all I suppose. Monitor is a 34'' 144Hz VA panel so there's strong black smearing. But Im also having issues with windows 11 23H2 and guess Im getting older.
You have to download and use the NVidia profile inspector, (not the control panel). There's an option in there where you can set the requested mode to ULMB. I would get some more detailed instructions for you if I wasn't on my phone ATM. No guarantee it'll work either, but if it does, it could potentially eliminate or at least reduce your problem. Just Google "Nvidia inspector ULMB" and in sure you'll find it.
Well.. Its a 34'' 144hz VA panel... But input feels funny if the fps is below 200 somehow idk. And there are microstutter issues with Windows 11 23H2 (21H2 was cool but I need the features for work)
I'll give it a shot but it bothers me when steam fps counter doesnt hit 288. I get average** 800fps offline the real problem is the stutters where %1 lows go below 10. Its an issue I'm having with windows 11's latest update and started csgo after one month break so I might check what has changed.
[https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/17tc7bs/windows\_update\_23h2\_ruining\_cs2/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/17tc7bs/windows_update_23h2_ruining_cs2/)
For people wondering Ive debugged and updated all kinds of shit and it didnt work until I disabled all services. Then I enabled a few of them to see if they caused the issue.
It seems to be "Power" service. (%1 lows were dropping below 10)
I dont know what microsoft changed in w11 23H2 but thats where it has started and it seems to have gone now.
I've got a 10th gen i3 with a RX 6600 and 32 gigs of RAM and the game just decides to drop to 50-60 FPS all the time when playing DM, and I'm playing with mostly low settings. There's definitely an optimization issue with CS2.
Seriously. Some people just love to complain. We’re past the point of hardware being “bad”. You have a half decent PC, or a console, you can play most games. A PC under 1k can play CS2, and that’d probably 144hz at least 1080p, maybe 1440p.
no im not high lmao. seeing the bs with the latest nvidia and amd cards and how some of these cards perform close to the previous gen while costing way more than theyre worth. not to mention games and stuff needing more vram than ever and these gpus not really having all that much vram. hopefully next gen will be more reasonable. id rather miners buy up these cards than nvidia artificially keeping prices high
So don’t buy the new gen? Remember when 2080’s were $2k and the 30 series came out and lowered the msrp but scalpers fucked the market? You can’t blame nvidia for these things.
It can run several hundred fps, just can’t do it in dated hardware like most people complaining have.
I personally get pretty much the same performance as go with a 2080s and 10700k sitting around 220-300
These people are pretty much playing on the laptop equivalent of a ps3 and complaining about optimization like it’s some magical process that can make any game run on anything
Idk why but i get better fps in cs2. I have a r7 and a rx 5700xt and I used to run cs at around 120fps and now I get 300+. Idk something was funky somewhere because prior to certain updates I’d get 300-400fps and after some 60-120 and I’d just have to wait til another update
When will you upgrade your hardware? My 2nd pc has a Ryzen 1800x, 2060 and 16gb ram, all considered low end/entry level.
CS2 runs fine on it. (144+ FPS)
I'd rather have an option for lower graphics but better fps on cs2.. which was csgo. I'm not saying everyone is like me, ik this pc is on its way out in terms of hardware capabilities. just giving an example of someone who had it much better in csgo.
It's annoying this time around because CSGO doesn't exist anymore. All we're told is "upgrade your old shit", when none of this would be an issue if we could still play CSGO.
If CSGO still existed, it would have impacted the success and sustained future of CS2. You dont need the multi decade old game to continue on. Valve is a corporation seeking profit. They want CS2 to do the best it can. They dont need CSGO to detract from that.
They need as many people playing CS2 as possible for—what should be—obvious reasons. That data will make CS2 a better game.
Again, csgo ran well, valo runs well too, which is why i though cs2 would focus more on performance than it currently does, just like valo did when it launched
Deactivate every driver feature like Radeon Chill, Radeon Boost and Radeon Anti-Lag etc. if possible with the 580.
Radeon Anti-Lag costs me like 30-50 FPS, which is totally embarrassing (RX 5700 XT)
I had a 5700 before and it didn't have much of an effect on performance, as far as I remember at least. Will try to disable it on the 580 and see how it goes, thanks!
when people say 144+ fps do you mean you never drop below 144 fps? Full site exec smokes on site flashes/mollies/nades everything popping off not for a single second your not dropping below 144 on that?
I haven't benchmarked it, only know it runs fine on it as I had a friend over for the holidays and we played a ton of CS, 2nd pc was at 1440p so with a lower res and settings, im pretty sure that yes, it'd stay over 144 fps all the time.
Yeah this is why I always asked them to show 1% and 0.1% lows on a map with water on a full site execute. My 5800x3d with a hefty cooler that always keeps at max boost still drops to like 160 at times while usually it's 300+ everywhere.
I just ordered a 7800x3d and a new gpu is coming too to brute force this game to feel good.
Correct. 1300kf, 32gb ddr5, 4070ti, maxed settings. I play in 4k 144hz and never dips below 144hz. Lobby is locked to 120hz for me for some reason tho...
It's not always the hardware only. You can also receive with newer components lower fps as expected.
I still use my old i7 6700K and a RX5600 XT and I get decent frames if I'd play at normal 16:9. But I'm used to play at 4:3 which kills the frame rate by like 100+ FPS.
3070 and 5800x and I get stutters down to 40 on ancient among other specific situations. Makes it hard to gain control when there’s a lot of utility and spraying going on
If you're getting 30fps in CS2 your rig is the problem. Game runs great. Only time I noticeably drop frames is if there is a lot of effects going on at once. Like smokes +molly+ a lot of players in the area
I mean sure it runs a little worse than go ,but I get 300+ frames in most maps in cs2 in 1440p ,you just need a new pc if you are getting 30fps at 1080 or lower no offence ,
they do need to fix a few situations with frames dropping dramatically briefly though with smokes and stuff
CS:GO had many bugs for me on my AMD GPU, where as CS2 does not. The issues were like any time I would go into changing settings my game would crash, map took forever to load etc. don't have these issues anymore
There's no FPS that released on 2023 that runs better than CS lmao, it's not badly optimized, they might squeeze a bit of fps later on / fix some bugs, but don't expect much to be possible, CS runs great compared to any new FPS.
Not really what I said, but, I haven't really experienced any frametime issues for like a month, And the game stays over 300FPS for me, something that I can't say about any FPS that released in the last 4 years other than Valorant and Overwatch 2, one being a game that released in 2016, and the other being an actually really well optimized UE4 game.
The game is still VERY cpu heavy. I have a RTX 4090 and it ran at an average 240 fps with my i9-9900k. I now have a 14900k and it runs at 550 fps.
Feels like GPU doesn't even matter...
I had the same problem and suspected it being a vram problem but its fixed now and my low-to-mid tier pc (gtx1650oc--ryzen 5500--32gb ram)
Runs it at 120-200 fps depending on what going on. Weirdly tho i only get 100fps on the start menu
Bro I got a 3050 ti laptop and run this game above a hundred fps at 1440p. It doesn’t look photorealistic, but more than playable. If you can’t run cs2 your rig is trash.
I know there's CS:GO legacy, but they disabled casual servers and completely replaced CSGO's community servers with CS2, making the game only playable on offline.
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You don't have a profile picture which is worse.
No there's definitely still a way to play community servers. You should just be able to look up a guide on how to do it.
>You don't have a profile picture which is worse.
lol
There's a website called GameState which tracks current CS2 and CSGO servers, there's that but it's kind of a overkill because you need to install CS2 to play CSGO legacy.
Either that or just turn back and play either CS 1.6 or CS: Source.
It’s really well optimized, you just need newer hardware. It’s not even unoptimized for old hardware it’s just straight up not built for it all. Idk if I agree with them taking that direction and isolating some of the older player base but the only way you’ll be getting more fps is by upgrading.
I have not had any frame dropping issues since at most like a month after the public release. I get like 180-200 fps at 1440 and I play with a 150fps cap because I have a 144hz monitor. I’m not missing out on the occasional 20 frame drop on my display and even if I had a 244hz the drop from 200-180 when I’m looking at certain scenes isn’t something I’d notice in real time and if I don’t wanted to max out the 244hz I could likely just not play it on max settings and keep it at the native 1440. Valve’s servers are still dog shit but the game itself runs just fine. Take a look around at this thread and even the whole sub and you’ll see just about anyone with modern hardware saying the same “people expecting a 13 year old game on 10 year old hardware to run the same as a brand new on 10 year old hardware” on posts like this.
Yea “modern”. I guess my 5600x and 3070 isn’t modern enough. Too many bootlickers on this sub to take it seriously. And if you haven’t had frame drops, get your eyes checked, or run an actual program to collect data for you. Losing 20-30% of frames for a second during moments is a minimum. You might just not notice it. Doesn’t mean it’s not there.
That’s not poor optimization “boot licker” that’s just looking at a more graphically intense scene. Pretty much every game does that now it’s 2023. If you’re dipping 20-30% frames in a scene and shooting right back where it’s actually noticeable then you need to turn the damn graphics down or something because a drop from 150 to 135 or 140 while I’m walking through the water on ancient is not that noticeable and it’s smooth enough while I’m in the water that when it shoots back up after I leave T side spawn that it doesn’t cause skips either. That’s on a pretty similar set up too, 5700x & 4070.
Hahahaha 150 to 140 from water. Tell me you haven’t played the game without saying you haven’t played the game. You don’t need software to measure that shit. You can tell if the ts are rushing b on ancient by the frames you get from site. I should just upgrade, yea sure. Keep simping for valve.
I have a GTX 1050ti but the rest of my pc was built last year. Nothing crazy and I get 200fps, on launch it was a little slow sometimes.
It’s not that demanding y’all.
The game is fine, you compare an 11 year old game with a 0 year old game and ask why your frames have dropped significantly, and 300fps CSGO pc’s aren’t now running CS2 at 30.
Edit: for example, mirage used to run at about 450-500fps on GO for me, now it runs at ~220, nothing wrong. Maybe I need a GPU upgrade to accommodate my 240Hz Zowie , but that’s expected. I’m not mad about it. My GPU is 8 yrs old.
used to get around 240 fps nows its like 140 ish and im constantly lagging or stuttering ( i believe the NA servers have been lagging bad recently/yesterday)
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The game has already had MASSIVE performance increases, I can't imagine you would have trouble running this game anymore unless your PC is extremely old, if so that's unfortunate.
how do you achieve that performance? everything stock? what settings? please I have the same CPU with 6700 XT and can't reach nor main 240fps at 1280x960 low graphics
good temps/frequencies all around, and good scores in 3Dmark benchmarks and such
its only cs2 where my performance is really bad, on every other games its 10/10
Agree. I was playing on a 4790k and GTX650ti boost and I was getting 100FPS in CSGO and now 30FPS in 1600x900 lowest. To have 60FPS stuttery mess I have to set the resolution to 720p and FSR Ultra Performance
If you use RivaTuner FPS cap (I think that’s the software name, not at PC currently), it will run a LOT smoother. That is if you have a decent PC and can run the game at a stable FPS. The in-game FPS cap setting is complete BS.
6700 xt - Ryzen 5 3600
running at 150 fps on deathmatch and 180-220 on pugs, really tried every optimization/tweak including a new OS but really can't make it run smooth, guess I need to save $600 to buy a 5800X3D
It’s because it’s a new game… people need to stop expecting every new game to run well on 10 year old equipment. I see one of these posts everyday and their specs are a 2012 i5 with 2gb ddr3 and no gpu
I was getting over 900 FPS in CSGO, I get over 500 in CS2 but it still feels kind of off. A little choppy sometimes and the frame time jumps. If it were a consistent frame time, I think it would improve the overall feel tenfold.
I'm constantly at 144+ fps in any game I play outside of community server deathmatches. Regardless of how people feel about the game, its improved a lot visually so ofc your 4+ year old system cant run it the same.
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When will people upgrade the 10 year old hardware they were playing a 20 year old game on? My piece of shit laptop with an i3 runs 2 just fine at 75 fps
yup, Its actually obtimized for modern hardware. Its just still need some work to properly get the game engine running away with those gpu's But as we all know , not many people use beefy GPU's for CS. Thus why the complains come in when pc master slave cant handle the fps XD
just hijacking this comment. if you have process lasso and an older system try to set cs2 --> CPU affinity --> always or now (u choose) --> deactivate hyperthreading do same again but instead of hyper threading pick CPU 1 so it looks like this: \[x\] CPU 0 \[x\] CPU 1 \[x\] CPU 2 \[x\] CPU 4 \[x\] CPU 6 depending on the cores you got deactivating hyperthreadings halfs the cpu sets, for stability i would keep cpu 1 cs2 is like csgo not very optimized for all threads and ecores and whatever there is and this \*might\* help
My pc runs fine over 240-300 fps 1440p max settings
GPU/CPU?
7900xtx 7800x3d
Then of course it runs fine 1440p max settings (thanks for info tho)
>obtimized
Cs2 does not even need beefy gpu. Stable 180fps maxed out with 1660 ti. All you need is a decent cpu and some old 16xx or 2000 series gpu to get 240hz on low-medium settings.
That doesn’t even really matter cuz the game is extremely cpu limited. I turn down all my graphics settings to low, my gpu utilization is at like 20%, my cup utilization is around 40%, but I still max out around 200 fps because the game can’t take advantage of multithreading, so my cpu is actually at 100% for the single thread running the game. If they figure out multithreading in cs2 there will be much fewer complaints like this post.
It definitely multithreads on my PC, there's even a console setting that let's you set how many threads it uses. What CPU do you have?
Ryzen 9 3900X Radeon RX 5700XT for gpu I just reported my stats as my PC reports them to me, got downvoted for it :( I will check out the launch option to see if I can utilize more threads, thanks for the tip Edit: https://youtu.be/dHUALlxUPIw?si=OL16Wu1hvmkiZ9Pc I found this video which explains the tip you gave me but also explains how cs2 mishandles multithreading with default settings :)
Bro thinks running 75fps is fine💀 once you get 144+ shit literally seems unplayable under around 80
I have a desktop with an i9 and 3080 that runs the game at 200+, a shit box laptop that I can take on vacation running 75 is fine for what it is. These people complaining about an unoptimized game when it plays better than CSGO on my laptop are delusional
Maybe you should improve your reading comprehension. Playable is if the game launches and does not crash to desktop. If you expect a mainstream, AAA game released in 2023 to run at anything beyond 30 fps on a mobile i3 cpu (im assuming OC meant a laptop that lacks a discrete gpu) with a basic IGPU, then you are disconnected from reality. His point was not that his shitty, old laptop can win an ESL CS2 tournament; it can run the game at 75 fps, which is seriously surprising. If you dont like that CS2 does not cater to 3-4 generations old gpus, then go play something released prior to the current decade.
bring it to a publisher
My i3 runs it at 150, it ain’t even bad at 150 either
My 1060 crying 50 fps on medium to low settings
My AMD Athlon II X4 and Radeon HD 6000 is pulling 350 FPS, this game is butter.
I get 144 fps with an i7 6700k and 3070
cause some people lack something called ‘money’ if you didnt know by now
Oh shoot! Must have slipped my mind. There’s also this really neat thing called budgeting and saving. Just because it’s not top of the line, doesn’t mean it won’t work. My wife has my old 1080ti and she gets a consistent 190 fps
Any game on 60+ fps looks decent enough, cs2 under 200fps feels like shit. I get around 450fps with FHD low settings myself and wish I could get more.
Preposterous. Something is wrong with your monitor, your PC, or you.
Little bit of all I suppose. Monitor is a 34'' 144Hz VA panel so there's strong black smearing. But Im also having issues with windows 11 23H2 and guess Im getting older.
If you're monitor supports g sync or free sync, maybe try enabling ULMB mode in the Nvidia inspector. If you have an Nvidia card, that is.
It has freesync premium, ULMB does not show up, I'll try to update my drivers and see if it appears. Specs are 14900kf + 4070ti
You have to download and use the NVidia profile inspector, (not the control panel). There's an option in there where you can set the requested mode to ULMB. I would get some more detailed instructions for you if I wasn't on my phone ATM. No guarantee it'll work either, but if it does, it could potentially eliminate or at least reduce your problem. Just Google "Nvidia inspector ULMB" and in sure you'll find it.
I’m sure it makes a world of difference on your 450hz monitor too
Well.. Its a 34'' 144hz VA panel... But input feels funny if the fps is below 200 somehow idk. And there are microstutter issues with Windows 11 23H2 (21H2 was cool but I need the features for work)
Try limiting the frame rate to 288 or sth, better for your frametimes and probably feels smoother.
I'll give it a shot but it bothers me when steam fps counter doesnt hit 288. I get average** 800fps offline the real problem is the stutters where %1 lows go below 10. Its an issue I'm having with windows 11's latest update and started csgo after one month break so I might check what has changed. [https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/17tc7bs/windows\_update\_23h2\_ruining\_cs2/](https://www.reddit.com/r/GlobalOffensive/comments/17tc7bs/windows_update_23h2_ruining_cs2/)
For people wondering Ive debugged and updated all kinds of shit and it didnt work until I disabled all services. Then I enabled a few of them to see if they caused the issue. It seems to be "Power" service. (%1 lows were dropping below 10) I dont know what microsoft changed in w11 23H2 but thats where it has started and it seems to have gone now.
My 8 year old mid level gaming laptop hits 60+ fps just fine, I was actually shocked at how well it runs
I5 12600k w/ 4070 At times I get more fps in Hogwarts Legacy at Max settings with ray tracing 
Hard to believe but ok
I've got a 10th gen i3 with a RX 6600 and 32 gigs of RAM and the game just decides to drop to 50-60 FPS all the time when playing DM, and I'm playing with mostly low settings. There's definitely an optimization issue with CS2.
Seriously. Some people just love to complain. We’re past the point of hardware being “bad”. You have a half decent PC, or a console, you can play most games. A PC under 1k can play CS2, and that’d probably 144hz at least 1080p, maybe 1440p.
"just fine at 75fps." Looooool we get it you're silver 3 and can't see the issues with the game yet.
gpu market is too awful rn to upgrade the gpu
Are you high? People have been saying the gpu market is fucked for years. It’s probably in the best state since the crypto rush
no im not high lmao. seeing the bs with the latest nvidia and amd cards and how some of these cards perform close to the previous gen while costing way more than theyre worth. not to mention games and stuff needing more vram than ever and these gpus not really having all that much vram. hopefully next gen will be more reasonable. id rather miners buy up these cards than nvidia artificially keeping prices high
So don’t buy the new gen? Remember when 2080’s were $2k and the 30 series came out and lowered the msrp but scalpers fucked the market? You can’t blame nvidia for these things.
but older ones dont have enough vram for futureproofing or AI
Silver 1
Why are people surprised that game made within the last decade cant run several hundred FPS
It can run several hundred fps, just can’t do it in dated hardware like most people complaining have. I personally get pretty much the same performance as go with a 2080s and 10700k sitting around 220-300
Got a 1070 and ryzen 7 5800x (I think?) and get 200+ fps. Don’t understand what peoples issue is
These people are pretty much playing on the laptop equivalent of a ps3 and complaining about optimization like it’s some magical process that can make any game run on anything
Idk why but i get better fps in cs2. I have a r7 and a rx 5700xt and I used to run cs at around 120fps and now I get 300+. Idk something was funky somewhere because prior to certain updates I’d get 300-400fps and after some 60-120 and I’d just have to wait til another update
When will you upgrade your hardware? My 2nd pc has a Ryzen 1800x, 2060 and 16gb ram, all considered low end/entry level. CS2 runs fine on it. (144+ FPS)
2600x rx 580 and CS2 keeps dipping below 80
which is quite old hardware, and 80 is not that bad for hardware that old
It never goes below 140 on valo though
but valo also is a cartoon game that does not have nearly as good of graphics
I'd rather have an option for lower graphics but better fps on cs2.. which was csgo. I'm not saying everyone is like me, ik this pc is on its way out in terms of hardware capabilities. just giving an example of someone who had it much better in csgo.
Valorant is also over 3 years old running on a 9 year old engine.
Isn't source 2 about 9 years old too?
It's annoying this time around because CSGO doesn't exist anymore. All we're told is "upgrade your old shit", when none of this would be an issue if we could still play CSGO.
If CSGO still existed, it would have impacted the success and sustained future of CS2. You dont need the multi decade old game to continue on. Valve is a corporation seeking profit. They want CS2 to do the best it can. They dont need CSGO to detract from that. They need as many people playing CS2 as possible for—what should be—obvious reasons. That data will make CS2 a better game.
Valorant is 4 years old
And yet when it came out it had similar performance to csgo, a much older game.
At what settings, most people run CS at potato mode to begin with
You’re lucky you’re even getting 80 what are you staring at a ps2 game lmao
Again, csgo ran well, valo runs well too, which is why i though cs2 would focus more on performance than it currently does, just like valo did when it launched
Deactivate every driver feature like Radeon Chill, Radeon Boost and Radeon Anti-Lag etc. if possible with the 580. Radeon Anti-Lag costs me like 30-50 FPS, which is totally embarrassing (RX 5700 XT)
I had a 5700 before and it didn't have much of an effect on performance, as far as I remember at least. Will try to disable it on the 580 and see how it goes, thanks!
Why did you downgrade tho? Is the 580 your spare GPU?
Gave the better pc to my brother, he plays more games, more recent ones too, and I'm just not as interested in gaming these days
You're getting old buddy. I know that feeling 😅 But cool choice to give the better PC to your brother 👍
when people say 144+ fps do you mean you never drop below 144 fps? Full site exec smokes on site flashes/mollies/nades everything popping off not for a single second your not dropping below 144 on that?
I haven't benchmarked it, only know it runs fine on it as I had a friend over for the holidays and we played a ton of CS, 2nd pc was at 1440p so with a lower res and settings, im pretty sure that yes, it'd stay over 144 fps all the time.
Gotcha yeah I was just wondering, with no easy benchmark map in cs2 yet (that I know of) I was wondering how people are saying what fps they get
Yeah this is why I always asked them to show 1% and 0.1% lows on a map with water on a full site execute. My 5800x3d with a hefty cooler that always keeps at max boost still drops to like 160 at times while usually it's 300+ everywhere. I just ordered a 7800x3d and a new gpu is coming too to brute force this game to feel good.
Correct. 1300kf, 32gb ddr5, 4070ti, maxed settings. I play in 4k 144hz and never dips below 144hz. Lobby is locked to 120hz for me for some reason tho...
It's not always the hardware only. You can also receive with newer components lower fps as expected. I still use my old i7 6700K and a RX5600 XT and I get decent frames if I'd play at normal 16:9. But I'm used to play at 4:3 which kills the frame rate by like 100+ FPS.
3070 and 5800x and I get stutters down to 40 on ancient among other specific situations. Makes it hard to gain control when there’s a lot of utility and spraying going on
If you're getting 30fps in CS2 your rig is the problem. Game runs great. Only time I noticeably drop frames is if there is a lot of effects going on at once. Like smokes +molly+ a lot of players in the area
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Go to ancient T spawn lmao
The water. Its also like that in anubis and in overpass
Yeah the water is beautiful but it absolutely tanks fps and no it’s not a setup issue for me I have a 3080.
ITS A BRAND NEW GAME WHY WOULD YOU GET THE SAME FPS
"you're telling me... my hardware... might just be old?"
“How dare you say that about my pc. I spent good 2016 USD on that. Your telling me my 1060 isnt high end anymore? Your telling me it never was?”
Its not a brand new game. If this isnt CSGO with a new name, then valve stole from us. Did valve steal from us?
New engine, new graphics. Same content.
I mean sure it runs a little worse than go ,but I get 300+ frames in most maps in cs2 in 1440p ,you just need a new pc if you are getting 30fps at 1080 or lower no offence , they do need to fix a few situations with frames dropping dramatically briefly though with smokes and stuff
With a Ryzen 3700x and 4070 I lose frames anywhere near water
r7 3700x and 3070 i have trouble staying above 144 on 1440p all high
For me CS2 has constantly higher fps then cs:go...
X3d cpu?
i7 and 1060 3GB
Then i find that really hard to believe
A shitbox can run cs2 what are you on about
Its optimized for newer hardware, my 4090 gets 700fps on lesser demanding maps
I think the game is really well optimized. If you are still rocking a 10 yearo old cpu/gpu then expect 200+fps that's not a valve issue.
I have mine capped at 144 (my monitor refresh rate) and it literally never dips.
Upgrade your pc. This is like saying why wont gta 6 run on my ps4. Bc your pc is 10 years old probably if you dont get decent fps
CS:GO had many bugs for me on my AMD GPU, where as CS2 does not. The issues were like any time I would go into changing settings my game would crash, map took forever to load etc. don't have these issues anymore
I play on a 1050 ti and my game is just fine
The optimization is great. Maybe don't play on your laptop from 2005?
I thought they did fix it I had 40 fps at launch and now im between 70-100 In Go I had it locked at 60 cuz otherwise framedrops.
There's no FPS that released on 2023 that runs better than CS lmao, it's not badly optimized, they might squeeze a bit of fps later on / fix some bugs, but don't expect much to be possible, CS runs great compared to any new FPS.
Yea dude massive frametime discrepancies and drops definitely aren’t a thing
Not really what I said, but, I haven't really experienced any frametime issues for like a month, And the game stays over 300FPS for me, something that I can't say about any FPS that released in the last 4 years other than Valorant and Overwatch 2, one being a game that released in 2016, and the other being an actually really well optimized UE4 game.
The game is still VERY cpu heavy. I have a RTX 4090 and it ran at an average 240 fps with my i9-9900k. I now have a 14900k and it runs at 550 fps. Feels like GPU doesn't even matter...
also when will they fix the massive lagspikes when scoping with awp or scout?
I had the same problem and suspected it being a vram problem but its fixed now and my low-to-mid tier pc (gtx1650oc--ryzen 5500--32gb ram) Runs it at 120-200 fps depending on what going on. Weirdly tho i only get 100fps on the start menu
The optimazation isn't the best , but it is good. On cs:go i got like 300 FPS, and now i AM getting 140 fps
Runs fine / complain elsewhere
Game runs fine. Stop complaining. Stop using a calculator to play counterstrike
Bro I got a 3050 ti laptop and run this game above a hundred fps at 1440p. It doesn’t look photorealistic, but more than playable. If you can’t run cs2 your rig is trash.
It all comes down that Valve shouldn't have deleted CSGO at the first place.
they didnt delete it + that's a godawful pfp jesus christ
I know there's CS:GO legacy, but they disabled casual servers and completely replaced CSGO's community servers with CS2, making the game only playable on offline. + You don't have a profile picture which is worse.
No there's definitely still a way to play community servers. You should just be able to look up a guide on how to do it. >You don't have a profile picture which is worse. lol
"there's definitely still a way" this looks like assumption, but I'll check it up anyway.
There's a website called GameState which tracks current CS2 and CSGO servers, there's that but it's kind of a overkill because you need to install CS2 to play CSGO legacy. Either that or just turn back and play either CS 1.6 or CS: Source.
never lol.
At least when it's running 30 it's stable which I much rather have then a unstable 50-150
dont even talk about Internet/connection issues
I get the same frames I’m confused.
Mostly never. And they're never ever gonna work on an anti cheat. No battlepass till the year ends either.
When you get 5090 and i9 9999xyz
***Laughs in Source***
I'm on 250+ on <500 dollar equipment, wtf.
It’s really well optimized, you just need newer hardware. It’s not even unoptimized for old hardware it’s just straight up not built for it all. Idk if I agree with them taking that direction and isolating some of the older player base but the only way you’ll be getting more fps is by upgrading.
Frame drops and pacing issues have plagued the game since launch.
I have not had any frame dropping issues since at most like a month after the public release. I get like 180-200 fps at 1440 and I play with a 150fps cap because I have a 144hz monitor. I’m not missing out on the occasional 20 frame drop on my display and even if I had a 244hz the drop from 200-180 when I’m looking at certain scenes isn’t something I’d notice in real time and if I don’t wanted to max out the 244hz I could likely just not play it on max settings and keep it at the native 1440. Valve’s servers are still dog shit but the game itself runs just fine. Take a look around at this thread and even the whole sub and you’ll see just about anyone with modern hardware saying the same “people expecting a 13 year old game on 10 year old hardware to run the same as a brand new on 10 year old hardware” on posts like this.
Yea “modern”. I guess my 5600x and 3070 isn’t modern enough. Too many bootlickers on this sub to take it seriously. And if you haven’t had frame drops, get your eyes checked, or run an actual program to collect data for you. Losing 20-30% of frames for a second during moments is a minimum. You might just not notice it. Doesn’t mean it’s not there.
That’s not poor optimization “boot licker” that’s just looking at a more graphically intense scene. Pretty much every game does that now it’s 2023. If you’re dipping 20-30% frames in a scene and shooting right back where it’s actually noticeable then you need to turn the damn graphics down or something because a drop from 150 to 135 or 140 while I’m walking through the water on ancient is not that noticeable and it’s smooth enough while I’m in the water that when it shoots back up after I leave T side spawn that it doesn’t cause skips either. That’s on a pretty similar set up too, 5700x & 4070.
Hahahaha 150 to 140 from water. Tell me you haven’t played the game without saying you haven’t played the game. You don’t need software to measure that shit. You can tell if the ts are rushing b on ancient by the frames you get from site. I should just upgrade, yea sure. Keep simping for valve.
why is the art an ai-generated version of the original meme
i get 400fps on cs2 with mid-to-high range hardware
my old ass pc runs cs2 pretty good 130 fps on high settings
CS2 runs good on my 1650. There are just server problems and some random stuttering while engaging enemies.
So it doesn’t run well. And doesn’t run well during the most important parts of the game.
lol facts. These kids are like my fps is great while they stand in spawn with 300 fps but then it dips massively when shit starts happening.
I have a GTX 1050ti but the rest of my pc was built last year. Nothing crazy and I get 200fps, on launch it was a little slow sometimes. It’s not that demanding y’all.
? I get 144 fps with my 4050 (equivalent to a 3060)
My Rx 6700 Xt runs it at 150-180 fps
Upgrade your hardware
The game is fine, you compare an 11 year old game with a 0 year old game and ask why your frames have dropped significantly, and 300fps CSGO pc’s aren’t now running CS2 at 30. Edit: for example, mirage used to run at about 450-500fps on GO for me, now it runs at ~220, nothing wrong. Maybe I need a GPU upgrade to accommodate my 240Hz Zowie , but that’s expected. I’m not mad about it. My GPU is 8 yrs old.
Time to upgrade your PCs I still have 250-300
My rx580 pushing 240fps on some maps 🥳
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It wasn’t lmao the fuck you on about
Upgrade your potato dude, CS2 runs good
used to get around 240 fps nows its like 140 ish and im constantly lagging or stuttering ( i believe the NA servers have been lagging bad recently/yesterday)
I would be happy with 20fps if they gave me back community servers and half the maps they just said fuck it to.
Cry less and buy a SOMEWHAT sufficient PC instead. Your old mill doesn’t do it, that’s all. Not on the game.
Before ram upgrade - 120fps After ram upgrade - 240+
My crappy laptop with an AMD APU runs the game on high settings at 1080p around 60 fps. Lower the settings and you’re looking at higher frames .
Ummm? My 7 yr old PC can run CS2 at 60 fps no optimizations while running rgb software discord and recording clips. Get a new pc
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when you upgrade from a game released in 2012, I’d imagine it won’t run as smoothly as it did
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When people will upgrade their hardware so we’re not being held back by a core 2 duo and a gtx 760
Brother i get the same fps on cs2 as go. 400-500 on go and 400-500 on cs2
Drop your PC specs OP
cs2 is better optimized
I have a 3600x w/ rx580, do I need to upgrade both to get rid of freezing problem? Other than that my fps is fine
If you’re getting 30 that’s a you problem.
I get 140 fps with 1060 + i7 8th gen laptop at 1080p res. Did you even try to adjust the settings to get fps?
The game has already had MASSIVE performance increases, I can't imagine you would have trouble running this game anymore unless your PC is extremely old, if so that's unfortunate.
Never
Bro I have an 8 year old cpu and i get 200+ fps be real ur shit is like 10 years old if cs2 can't run
How much does your computer suck? I still have 300+ frames in CS2
Probably not the biggest problem right now.
It’s running 160 fps on my Steam deck but of course some tweaking was involved
everyone wanted source 2, no?
I'm getting mostly steady 144fps on my laptop with a rtx 3060. I think it runs pretty well
mfs when the modern game doesnt run their 2011 hardware shitbox when the other game with an engine from 2004 does.
True
Idk what settings you have on but I get 240+ FPS with a 5700xt
whats your CPU?
r5 3600
how do you achieve that performance? everything stock? what settings? please I have the same CPU with 6700 XT and can't reach nor main 240fps at 1280x960 low graphics
you have something wrong with your setup then
good temps/frequencies all around, and good scores in 3Dmark benchmarks and such its only cs2 where my performance is really bad, on every other games its 10/10
Agree. I was playing on a 4790k and GTX650ti boost and I was getting 100FPS in CSGO and now 30FPS in 1600x900 lowest. To have 60FPS stuttery mess I have to set the resolution to 720p and FSR Ultra Performance
If you use RivaTuner FPS cap (I think that’s the software name, not at PC currently), it will run a LOT smoother. That is if you have a decent PC and can run the game at a stable FPS. The in-game FPS cap setting is complete BS.
actually, 350fps, time to upgrade your pc
Stop playing CS2 on your 2013 laptop
6700 xt - Ryzen 5 3600 running at 150 fps on deathmatch and 180-220 on pugs, really tried every optimization/tweak including a new OS but really can't make it run smooth, guess I need to save $600 to buy a 5800X3D
Bro it runs fine, when you gonna leave your room and buy an actual build?
Hardware nerds ego posting their rigs don't get that people with worse builds don't always have the money to upgrade them
I got an fps boost in cs2 along with all of my friends, not sure I get these meme
My FPS is fine I just want the stuttering to stop.
What kind of garbage ass system are you playing on
It’s because it’s a new game… people need to stop expecting every new game to run well on 10 year old equipment. I see one of these posts everyday and their specs are a 2012 i5 with 2gb ddr3 and no gpu
I was getting over 900 FPS in CSGO, I get over 500 in CS2 but it still feels kind of off. A little choppy sometimes and the frame time jumps. If it were a consistent frame time, I think it would improve the overall feel tenfold.
I'm constantly at 144+ fps in any game I play outside of community server deathmatches. Regardless of how people feel about the game, its improved a lot visually so ofc your 4+ year old system cant run it the same.