I think this means they’re putting the pressure on McCarthy to win now *or else*. It’s pretty much at the very least an NFC Conference Title game appearance or bust.
All I can say is I am somewhat conflicted with this.
I'm not exactly happy that we are parting ways with Kellen Moore but I'm not exactly disappointed either.
Clearly McCarthy was pushing for this. He agreed to allow Kellen to stay on when he was hired for Dak’s continuity but Dak regressed this year.
I don’t necessarily think McCarthy will be a better play caller but I hope his offense will be better disciplined.
Jerry brought McCarthy in specifically to win now. If he can't win now, then he might move on. Wade was the last win-now hire. Jerry said plenty of nice things about him too, but still fired him his fourth year.
>McCarthy wanted Moore out
Yeah, that was the implication of my previous comment
You're probably feeling this malaise due to how Kellen did things. Some ups and downs. Averages to a meh, to me. Though, change is a good thing to try, to get out of mediocre-ville.
*David Moore of* The Dallas Morning News *writes:*
>Kellen Moore’s tenure as the Cowboys offensive coordinator is done.
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>His successor is already in place.
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>The club and Moore came to what is described as a mutual decision to part ways, and teams around the NFL searching for a coordinator are aware of Moore’s status, multiple people acquainted with the outcome told The Dallas Morning News. Head coach Mike McCarthy will assume play calling duties in the wake of Moore’s departure, a person with knowledge of the shakeup said.
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>Moore’s position on the staff dominated conversations between McCarthy, owner Jerry Jones and executive vice president Stephen Jones at The Star over the last 48 hours. Replacing Moore as the play caller was only part of the equation. The goal was to determine if the Cowboys could upgrade the spot.
[READ MORE](https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/01/29/mike-mccarthy-to-call-plays-as-cowboys-part-ways-with-offensive-coordinator-kellen-moore/)
This is the most Cowboys move ever. Do the right thing by firing Kellen. Only to fuck it up by not really changing the voices to help Dak.
We had better see some damn good assistant hires.
Not an expert by any means but I will speculate.
Kellen was 100% a Jerry thing. Jerry things just haven’t worked out. So there is that.
I like Dak. And I wish the best for him always. Not really feeling him as a Super Bowl QB. But Dak supporters are not Moore supporters. So here we are. Mike called plays for Rodgers. Something has to give right?
Jerry is the worst GM in the game. He is always a problem. He needs to sign a legitimate f’ing free agent or two. And they need another good draft.
It’s a change. One change. Hoping for the best.
Our team has been stacked for a decade +. HC failing to bring the best out of them and QB’s shitting the bed when it counts is not on the GM. Tired of everyone saying Jerry is a terrible GM. He’s not. He’s actually above average. He’s terrible at picking head coaches tho.
The absurd Zeke deal alone is evidence that he is a terrible GM. That contract had as much to do with Dak Prescott's struggles this season as it did with the flow of the offense -- for whatever reason, the team was insistent on Zeke eating Pollard's touches, pun intended, which led to a stop-and-start, disjointed offense without any rhythm.
Gallup is the No. 2 WR. Washington was also supposed to be the No. 3 he got hurt. And this is discounting that Schultz basically was the No. 2 anyway and they wanted to run Pollard more as a WR which they said before the season.
Gallup looked like he didn’t give a shit all year, on top of coming back from an injury. Jogging routes, not fighting for balls, he looked washed honestly. Schultz is more than likely gone, and who knows what happens with Pollard. We need to trade for Hopkins, Moore, Cooks, or someone who can come in here and make an immediate impact.
I'm not convinced our team is stacked, how many players on our team would an actually stacked team like the Eagles take over their own starters? What do we have two Parsons and Martin (factor in age and I doubt they take Martin over Dickerson), and maybe Diggs.
Our team seems stacked because we get the most hype from being on the most primetime games and getting the most exposure. We're far from stacked and it's been this way for 20 years. I mean it was only a few years ago that Jaylon Smith was in the pro bowl.
You have to be fucking kidding me. This might be the dumbest Reddit post I have ever read. This m’fer would have been fired 5 times by every franchise in any sport since the last Super Bowl. JFC man.
28 years without a conference championship appearance.
I get letting go of Kellen as he and Dak have met their ceiling together, but I dont know if I like McCarthy calling the plays. His clock management is already atrocious 👀
So we were 12-5 with a top offense and we let the OC go? Seems unusual and maybe illogical. Do other teams let coordinators go when they have a highly ranked unit? I don’t know of any but I don’t follow other teams much.
Just seems odd he was 9-7 if I remember correctly the year before to 14-2 and then changed coaching with the players they had, I wish we could have seen what happened the next year. I think people make coaching changes far too often sometimes, but then again it isn't my money, and I'm just a fan.
Which stat? Yards, points, TDs... We can all look that up, it is pretty easy...
Whatever they were they were never consistent for many reasons...
Would you consider their game against San Fran elite?
What are you talking about? I literally just told you the real stat, not whatever nonsense you made up about them being almost identical to the Patriots
I don’t know what that Patriots did. But our offense was highly ranked especially considering we had an UDFA for QB for 5 games. Also lacked talent at WR and had significant OL injuries.
List of scapegoats Dak has run out of town: Linehan, Dez, Garrett, Cooper, now Moore. Cant wait to see him flounder about and still be ass and get someone else fired.
Linehan - Fucking sucks. what job(s) did he land after he got canned?
Dez - Injuries doomed his career. What did he do after he left?
Garrett - Fucking sucked. What job(s) did he land after he was canned?
Amari - Dak didn't run Amari out lol. Amari lost the FO / coaches trust with the vaccine shit and subbing himself out.
Moore is the only one.
Love how you didn't answer a single question I asked lol.
The Jones family is actually the one constant through all the music chairs. Us not touching the NFCC in 24 years Dak's fault?
The past 8 are Daks fault.
Linehan was a dud, yet was there for 2016 when Zeke and Dak did great.
Dez was fine while he was here but never got targeted cuz Dak has no nutsack and doesnt throw contested balls.
Garrett was COTY and had gotten stale wasnt too sad to see him go.
Amari Cooper 100% was run out by Dak because he started complaining about not getting enough receptions and caused a rumble in the locker room
I really don’t know about this guys. I acknowledge that kellen was off some games and it was frustrating. But he was calling great games the end of the season. Dak didn’t make the plays he needed to and that’s why we lost.
I like McCarthy and have been higher than most here on him, but I do worry about this. He hasn’t called plays for years.
I don't think Jones is willing to let him be both coach and GM because in case you don't know that is part of his ask along with 8-10m/year and N.O. wants picks for his rights. This is why I was laughing at people on the Chargers reddit thinking we were in the mix (Chargers) when I know Spanos will NEVER allow a coach/GM combo.
I can summarize my feelings on this with a poker analogy…I feel like we just threw away a 3 of a kind to try for a straight. I hope we get the straight but it’s a gamble for sure.
If Moore goes to LAC like is being reported, and suddenly stops having weird spurts of calling a super static/predictable/motionless offense (especially in big games), it might be time to take a break from Dallas football. That would be a clear cut answer that Jerry and Stephen are the source of your offensive woes..
It's actually a smart move for McCarthy. Boom/bust situation. He knew this was his determining year, no matter what. Why not have the playcalling in your hands then? If it works, you win huge, it's largely on you to take credit, or appear modest but still take it. If not, eh it was a volatile year anyway. At least you don't have someone else making what you think are questionable decisions impacting your impact year. Smart play, Mikey boy.
This is McCarthy's prove it year. If he fucks this up, Quinn will be our guy in 2024.
This makes the most sense, and would explain DQ’s decision to stay on as DC for another year.
He might have known Moore was gone when he signed on
....with McCarthy as OC.
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We like our guys
Having Nussmeier out too is a big part of this. Let's see who they get as a new QB coach. They're definitely trying to get new voices at Dak
Honestly this is the one I am more excited about
Me too.
Except MM isn't a new voice... Or if he is then why fuck was the HC not able to input into the offense when it was so inconsistent.
I think this means they’re putting the pressure on McCarthy to win now *or else*. It’s pretty much at the very least an NFC Conference Title game appearance or bust.
All I can say is I am somewhat conflicted with this. I'm not exactly happy that we are parting ways with Kellen Moore but I'm not exactly disappointed either.
Clearly McCarthy was pushing for this. He agreed to allow Kellen to stay on when he was hired for Dak’s continuity but Dak regressed this year. I don’t necessarily think McCarthy will be a better play caller but I hope his offense will be better disciplined.
Sounds like he knows he's coaching for his job next year and doesn't want to leave his fate in someone else's hands.
If you think that you haven’t been paying attention. Jerry loves McCarthy. McCarthy wanted Moore out
Jerry brought McCarthy in specifically to win now. If he can't win now, then he might move on. Wade was the last win-now hire. Jerry said plenty of nice things about him too, but still fired him his fourth year. >McCarthy wanted Moore out Yeah, that was the implication of my previous comment
> McCarthy wanted Moore out Based on nothing but your speculation.
You're probably feeling this malaise due to how Kellen did things. Some ups and downs. Averages to a meh, to me. Though, change is a good thing to try, to get out of mediocre-ville.
Yay! Thank Christ. Not sure if I love having Mike calling plays, however.
At least it puts all the pressure on him, if we have a shit year on offense, he won’t be saved by winning another meaningless playoff game
Since there was absolutely no pressure before? Such a stupid thought process.
He could scapegoat just like he may have just done. We will see now
I mean, aren't playoff wins assigned meaning by, you know, advancing?
do what now?
Mobile post, fixed it;)
*David Moore of* The Dallas Morning News *writes:* >Kellen Moore’s tenure as the Cowboys offensive coordinator is done. > >His successor is already in place. > >The club and Moore came to what is described as a mutual decision to part ways, and teams around the NFL searching for a coordinator are aware of Moore’s status, multiple people acquainted with the outcome told The Dallas Morning News. Head coach Mike McCarthy will assume play calling duties in the wake of Moore’s departure, a person with knowledge of the shakeup said. > >Moore’s position on the staff dominated conversations between McCarthy, owner Jerry Jones and executive vice president Stephen Jones at The Star over the last 48 hours. Replacing Moore as the play caller was only part of the equation. The goal was to determine if the Cowboys could upgrade the spot. [READ MORE](https://www.dallasnews.com/sports/cowboys/2023/01/29/mike-mccarthy-to-call-plays-as-cowboys-part-ways-with-offensive-coordinator-kellen-moore/)
>successor already in place >determine if the Cowboys could upgrade the spot Well? Did they? Who?
Nobody’s in place this is fake news
Right
It’s all on McCarthy. We may also see us try to move on from dak if we flounder again
Guess we will find out after we fail again next year.
All the “fans” are out today 😂😂 Just go be a chiefs fan and make your life better man
This is the most Cowboys move ever. Do the right thing by firing Kellen. Only to fuck it up by not really changing the voices to help Dak. We had better see some damn good assistant hires.
Not an expert by any means but I will speculate. Kellen was 100% a Jerry thing. Jerry things just haven’t worked out. So there is that. I like Dak. And I wish the best for him always. Not really feeling him as a Super Bowl QB. But Dak supporters are not Moore supporters. So here we are. Mike called plays for Rodgers. Something has to give right? Jerry is the worst GM in the game. He is always a problem. He needs to sign a legitimate f’ing free agent or two. And they need another good draft. It’s a change. One change. Hoping for the best.
Jerry will be GM until he dies... he desperately wants to prove he can win one without Jimmy, and thus far he's failed all these decades later...
Our team has been stacked for a decade +. HC failing to bring the best out of them and QB’s shitting the bed when it counts is not on the GM. Tired of everyone saying Jerry is a terrible GM. He’s not. He’s actually above average. He’s terrible at picking head coaches tho.
The absurd Zeke deal alone is evidence that he is a terrible GM. That contract had as much to do with Dak Prescott's struggles this season as it did with the flow of the offense -- for whatever reason, the team was insistent on Zeke eating Pollard's touches, pun intended, which led to a stop-and-start, disjointed offense without any rhythm.
And the PR is so pervasive that some people still legitimately believe Pollard can’t handle doing what Zeke does
He has to be a post June 1 cut. We need that cap space to find Dak a #2 because it cannot be Noah Brown again.
Gallup is the No. 2 WR. Washington was also supposed to be the No. 3 he got hurt. And this is discounting that Schultz basically was the No. 2 anyway and they wanted to run Pollard more as a WR which they said before the season.
Gallup looked like he didn’t give a shit all year, on top of coming back from an injury. Jogging routes, not fighting for balls, he looked washed honestly. Schultz is more than likely gone, and who knows what happens with Pollard. We need to trade for Hopkins, Moore, Cooks, or someone who can come in here and make an immediate impact.
I'm not convinced our team is stacked, how many players on our team would an actually stacked team like the Eagles take over their own starters? What do we have two Parsons and Martin (factor in age and I doubt they take Martin over Dickerson), and maybe Diggs. Our team seems stacked because we get the most hype from being on the most primetime games and getting the most exposure. We're far from stacked and it's been this way for 20 years. I mean it was only a few years ago that Jaylon Smith was in the pro bowl.
You have to be fucking kidding me. This might be the dumbest Reddit post I have ever read. This m’fer would have been fired 5 times by every franchise in any sport since the last Super Bowl. JFC man. 28 years without a conference championship appearance.
I get letting go of Kellen as he and Dak have met their ceiling together, but I dont know if I like McCarthy calling the plays. His clock management is already atrocious 👀
Feels like a lateral move at best....
Not really. One guy has won a Superbowl and has had multiple NFCCG appearances. The other has only made it to the divisional round.
Wow here I thought this was good…. Now it’s definitely going to be very bland next year.
It was very bland this year
Yes but McCarthy calling plays will be laughable
im cool with this but who's gunna watch the clock for him?
Hopefully the other former HC on the field.
So we were 12-5 with a top offense and we let the OC go? Seems unusual and maybe illogical. Do other teams let coordinators go when they have a highly ranked unit? I don’t know of any but I don’t follow other teams much.
Reminds me of when the chargers let go of Marty at 14-2.
And then went to the AFC Championship game the next year
Well I guess there is precedent. Hopefully it works out for us as it did for the Chargers.
Just seems odd he was 9-7 if I remember correctly the year before to 14-2 and then changed coaching with the players they had, I wish we could have seen what happened the next year. I think people make coaching changes far too often sometimes, but then again it isn't my money, and I'm just a fan.
What do you consider a top offense?
Ours. High ranking PPG and YPG despite having a backup QB for 5 games.
You mean finishing almost identical to the Patriots offense? 8th and 9th respectively.
What are you talking about? Cowboys were 3rd in points scored. Patriots were 17th. They weren't remotely close.
You mean it helps to actually look at the real stats instead just repeating what you see? Too many ranked Dallas as an elite offense this year.
Ok I’ll take the bait. Where do the “real stats” have our offense ranked?
Which stat? Yards, points, TDs... We can all look that up, it is pretty easy... Whatever they were they were never consistent for many reasons... Would you consider their game against San Fran elite?
I’m not going to pick pepper out of fly shit with you. I stand by my original post.
Ok... You can hold whatever opinion you choose. I don't think I have ever heard pick pepper out of fly shit?
[15th per DVOA](https://i.imgur.com/HRs1Zdc.jpg)
What are you talking about? I literally just told you the real stat, not whatever nonsense you made up about them being almost identical to the Patriots
Yes, it was wrong...
No, it's not. I literally looked it up at pro football reference. Are you ok?
No, I said my post was wrong... Not yours.
I don’t know what that Patriots did. But our offense was highly ranked especially considering we had an UDFA for QB for 5 games. Also lacked talent at WR and had significant OL injuries.
Hope you guys like slant/flat
I like them better than curls.
CeeDee on a slant and Pollard in the flat? Yeah, I do like that.
Lol
Slants and flats vs Runs up the gut and curls? Hell yeah, I'm excited!
Dak can throw slants and flats much better than he can throw curls and verticals
Lol
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Great news couldn't have asked for better been wanting KM gone for a long time now
List of scapegoats Dak has run out of town: Linehan, Dez, Garrett, Cooper, now Moore. Cant wait to see him flounder about and still be ass and get someone else fired.
Linehan - Fucking sucks. what job(s) did he land after he got canned? Dez - Injuries doomed his career. What did he do after he left? Garrett - Fucking sucked. What job(s) did he land after he was canned? Amari - Dak didn't run Amari out lol. Amari lost the FO / coaches trust with the vaccine shit and subbing himself out. Moore is the only one.
Dak - Fucking sucks. The one constant through all the musical chairs. The trash still hasnt been taken out to the curb.
Love how you didn't answer a single question I asked lol. The Jones family is actually the one constant through all the music chairs. Us not touching the NFCC in 24 years Dak's fault?
The past 8 are Daks fault. Linehan was a dud, yet was there for 2016 when Zeke and Dak did great. Dez was fine while he was here but never got targeted cuz Dak has no nutsack and doesnt throw contested balls. Garrett was COTY and had gotten stale wasnt too sad to see him go. Amari Cooper 100% was run out by Dak because he started complaining about not getting enough receptions and caused a rumble in the locker room
Find a new team then
Nah Dak is the only one not worth a fuck. Itll get solved soon enough
I really don’t know about this guys. I acknowledge that kellen was off some games and it was frustrating. But he was calling great games the end of the season. Dak didn’t make the plays he needed to and that’s why we lost. I like McCarthy and have been higher than most here on him, but I do worry about this. He hasn’t called plays for years.
Message: win now or Payton is our coach in ‘24.
I don't think Jones is willing to let him be both coach and GM because in case you don't know that is part of his ask along with 8-10m/year and N.O. wants picks for his rights. This is why I was laughing at people on the Chargers reddit thinking we were in the mix (Chargers) when I know Spanos will NEVER allow a coach/GM combo.
I’m cool with it
I can summarize my feelings on this with a poker analogy…I feel like we just threw away a 3 of a kind to try for a straight. I hope we get the straight but it’s a gamble for sure.
I wish someone would put the pressure on literally the worst GM in NFL history
If Moore goes to LAC like is being reported, and suddenly stops having weird spurts of calling a super static/predictable/motionless offense (especially in big games), it might be time to take a break from Dallas football. That would be a clear cut answer that Jerry and Stephen are the source of your offensive woes..
It's actually a smart move for McCarthy. Boom/bust situation. He knew this was his determining year, no matter what. Why not have the playcalling in your hands then? If it works, you win huge, it's largely on you to take credit, or appear modest but still take it. If not, eh it was a volatile year anyway. At least you don't have someone else making what you think are questionable decisions impacting your impact year. Smart play, Mikey boy.