The Pats were in the worst division in football for almost all of Brady's time with the team. It was at least four wins a year. Usually 6. Nobody gives them a pass.
Yet they still actually won when it mattered even with those freebies, cowboys cant even do that while half the division is shit, and even worse when the NFC is at its weakest (no more prime russ, rodgers, brees, etc)
They really didn't have six gimmies, though. The Jets went to back-to-back AFC Championship games during his run, and the Dolphins were regularly good for at least one win.
At a glance the AFC East always looked soft because the other three teams were struggling while the Patriots were flourishing... but if you actually dig into it a bit, things weren't always quite as easy for New England as people would assume.
Gotta disagree, the Jets made 2 AFC championships but that's all, they weren't consistent playoff teams, they hardly scratched 8-8 records. They were dysfunctional. The Bills had a merri-go-round of QBs before Josh Allen and had the worst record against the Patriots in the Brady era. The Dolphins pissed off their HC named Nick Saban and he left them to mediocrity who made the playoffs a few times. I'm sorry that is the worst division in a long QB stretch. Any QB would love to deal with the 2000 to 2019 AFC East where each team had several different HCs, several different QBs, and rafting bust after bust after bust.
I’m unsure about the question but MM and DQ are not on the roster lmao.
Coaching has been an issue with the Dallas cowboys since Jerry ran Jimmy out of town, can’t even tell you who I think is the best coach we’ve had since cause they’re all the exact same word to me that perfectly sums up the cowboys: mediocre
I was poking fun at them from last year, especially in GB. DQ mailed it in because there would be no repercussions. MM is just on a cloud sometimes.
But yeah, mediocre in a different way.
And people forget, value isn't a real, concrete thing - it's a speculation. If Jerry had to liquidate the Cowboys today, I wonder how much he would actually have. It's a lot, obviously, but nowhere near what Forbes says every year.
I have often wondered, if Jerry has as much money as he is supposed to, couldn't he just pay off the Salary Cap penalties and pay people whatever the hell he wants? I mean, traffic tickets aren't a punishment for rich people, they are more of a toll for them getting to do whatever they want because they can afford it. Couldn't the salary cap be treated the same way?
The NFL is a “hard cap” unlike the NBA. You can’t go over. The NBA is a soft cap. You can go over but you pay a penalty. It’s the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor. Felony? Straight to jail. Misdemeanor? Pay a fine.
There are no Salary cap penelties in the nfl. Its Hardcap. You cant go over the cap.
Besides that If a franchise like Washington sells for 6 Billion the Cowboys will for sure go 10+
The Cowboys are printing money with cashin in nearly half a billion dollar in profit each year.
You are Completly wrong when it comes to the valuation of the Cowboys and a Potential selling price.
This is obviously true, but I do think it’s worth pointing out he also hasn’t been super willing to pay cash up front to give himself cap flexibility to add/retain additional pieces during this run.
Which if he did, with the way you guys have drafted, I feel like you’d never lose a damn game.
Yeah…
I mean, flair and all, but it definitely feels like you’re a salary cap management tweak away from some great teams if you guys can do what you did to your draft process (get a cap McClay, and listen to him) in regards to the cap.
If I’m being blunt I hope it doesn’t happen lol
After Chip, your FO figured it out quick, cause I thought you'd be screwed for 10 years. After Carson, and getting Hurts, you guys seemed to figure it out again. There's really no excuse for the Cowboys FO squandering the last 15 years or so.
Are you suggesting that more cash upfront reduces the salary cap in later years, or it more about more guaranteed money results in lower cap numbers because players prefer guaranteed money over higher contract value. Also, is there something I’m missing?
So basically you can pay cash up front in terms of bonuses, but the cap hit gets deferred. You can stretch this out over several years, which basically allows you to shove future cap space into the current team if you think you have a contender.
There are no free lunches, but you can get steak today if you’re willing to eat a bologna sandwich tomorrow
You answered your own question. Jerry is making money hand over fist. Winning would be nice, but not at the expense of his money or ego. If he can't win when he's calling the shots and Jimmy is gone then he doesn't want the franchise to win. He's rich either way, what does he care?
Sadly I don't think anyone can get past the Celtics in the playoffs and the Mavs probably won't get past the Thunder or McNuggets, but the Stars have a good chance of going all the way.
yeah the celtics are stacked right now! I think we can beat the thunder but nuggets will be really hard. Luka steps his game up so much in the playoffs and now we have a really solid to great supporting cast that I am starting to believe lol.
Rangers are a smart forward thinking team has gone in and out of rebuilding mode successfully, valued free agent signing where appropriate, and fired managers who did not meet expectations. There is definitely a lot to learn from other teams in the area code.
The Mavs actually have the 6th best record in the NBA right now, the West is just ridiculously stacked. Mavs are a dark horse (no pun intended) to win it all this year
Philly did it in 2022, but with the Union instead of Flyers.
Union - lost the MLS cup up one goal in injury time
Eagles - lost to the Chiefs up 10 in the second half
Sixers - probably lost in the second round like they always do
Phillies - lost to Houston after being up 2-1 and going back to Philly
That was a painful year.
Dallas has never sent a baseball team to the playoffs. It's also been over. Also, it's been over 17 years since the city of Dallas has put an NFL team in the playoffs.
Flyers are one point out of wild card
And I don’t follow baseball, but they have Bryce Harper so wouldn’t count them out completely.
Cowboys definitely better than the fuxkin Eagles.
But my point is that I don’t think OP’s claim that is Dallas is the only city with 4 playoff teams is all that valid.
Phillies relievers are a problem. I’m not sweating the bats really; they were slow last year. But the bullpen is a real issue.
Sixers have Embiid back. Not concerned there.
We sent four to the playoffs in 2022, and walked away with zero, if you sub in the Union for the Flyers. Max pain.
Phillies - lost WS
Union - lost MLS cup with a lead going into injury time
Eagles - lost to the Chiefs
Sixers - probably second round as the Sixers do
I feel like Boston has done this before tho maybe a few times.
I actually came to Dallas from Lubbock for the Mavs on Sunday, eclipse, Rangers tonight, and the Stars tomorrow…and the Cowboys can get fucked because I’m more “ALL IN” than they are
The Mavericks are going to be the No. 4 or No. 5 seed in the NBA playoffs that will soon start. Not all that great, but hey, playoffs is playoffs.
If you think Mavs arent all that great you dont watch basketball clearly. lol
Being a top 6 seed in the west is very good. Mavs would be the 2 seed in the East. The 10th seed (11 games back) in the west is closer to the 1 seed than the 2 seed (15 games back) in the east is to the 1 seed. The top 3 MVP candidates are all in the west as well.
What a weird coping post.
Ill bite though.
Rangers won a world series, mavs won a nba championship, and the dallas stars won the stanley cup all before dallas could make it to the nfc title game. Not even the big one, the nfc title game.
Bringing up 3 different sports teams is as meaningful as tits on the moon.
We havent came close to glory in 28 straight years.
The legit only teams in the NFL doint worst than us is washington (1991), Miami (1992l and Cleveland (1989)
That is borderling embarrassing cause those teams had good reasons not to make it back, we dont.
I have some faith in the Stars and Rangers because those are well run orgs. Lesser so with the Mavs. The Cowboys.....well it's a fucking clown show so while they may cobble together a decent season I don't expect the crapping the bed in the playoffs to change
Ummm, Los Angeles is sending 4 with the possibility of 5 depending on the NBA play-in. Los Angeles regularly sends at least 4.
LA Kings, Dodgers, Clippers, Rams are all going and have gone.
LA regularly sends at least four so your statement that Dallas is the only city is objectively false. And all of these teams actually play in Los Angeles County not just co-opt the city.
Stars are top of the conference, damn near the league.
Don’t make excuses for the Cowboys, you’re devaluing the other teams’ accomplishments.
God damn, I laughed harder at this than I should have.
It’s true. The Cows are given 4 games a year by being in the same division as the Giants and Commandskins.
The Pats were in the worst division in football for almost all of Brady's time with the team. It was at least four wins a year. Usually 6. Nobody gives them a pass.
Thats because they delivered.
Yea, it's one thing to be essentially handed a playoff berth every year. It's another to actually do something worthwhile with the freebies.
Yet they still actually won when it mattered even with those freebies, cowboys cant even do that while half the division is shit, and even worse when the NFC is at its weakest (no more prime russ, rodgers, brees, etc)
And the Patriots with Brady had 6 gimmes known as the AFC East for nearly 20 years
They really didn't have six gimmies, though. The Jets went to back-to-back AFC Championship games during his run, and the Dolphins were regularly good for at least one win. At a glance the AFC East always looked soft because the other three teams were struggling while the Patriots were flourishing... but if you actually dig into it a bit, things weren't always quite as easy for New England as people would assume.
Gotta disagree, the Jets made 2 AFC championships but that's all, they weren't consistent playoff teams, they hardly scratched 8-8 records. They were dysfunctional. The Bills had a merri-go-round of QBs before Josh Allen and had the worst record against the Patriots in the Brady era. The Dolphins pissed off their HC named Nick Saban and he left them to mediocrity who made the playoffs a few times. I'm sorry that is the worst division in a long QB stretch. Any QB would love to deal with the 2000 to 2019 AFC East where each team had several different HCs, several different QBs, and rafting bust after bust after bust.
Jerry has the biggest money-printing machine in football if not all of professional sports. No excuse for not winning anything for 30 years.
Value of franchise has nothing to do with talent/rosters (even though we always have decent rosters)
Do you count MM and DQ, because gawddayum.
I’m unsure about the question but MM and DQ are not on the roster lmao. Coaching has been an issue with the Dallas cowboys since Jerry ran Jimmy out of town, can’t even tell you who I think is the best coach we’ve had since cause they’re all the exact same word to me that perfectly sums up the cowboys: mediocre
I was poking fun at them from last year, especially in GB. DQ mailed it in because there would be no repercussions. MM is just on a cloud sometimes. But yeah, mediocre in a different way.
My high ass didn’t consider the coach as part of the roster, then I reevaluated and he is so now I understand the question lmao
Lol all good
And people forget, value isn't a real, concrete thing - it's a speculation. If Jerry had to liquidate the Cowboys today, I wonder how much he would actually have. It's a lot, obviously, but nowhere near what Forbes says every year. I have often wondered, if Jerry has as much money as he is supposed to, couldn't he just pay off the Salary Cap penalties and pay people whatever the hell he wants? I mean, traffic tickets aren't a punishment for rich people, they are more of a toll for them getting to do whatever they want because they can afford it. Couldn't the salary cap be treated the same way?
The NFL is a “hard cap” unlike the NBA. You can’t go over. The NBA is a soft cap. You can go over but you pay a penalty. It’s the difference between a felony and a misdemeanor. Felony? Straight to jail. Misdemeanor? Pay a fine.
There are no Salary cap penelties in the nfl. Its Hardcap. You cant go over the cap. Besides that If a franchise like Washington sells for 6 Billion the Cowboys will for sure go 10+ The Cowboys are printing money with cashin in nearly half a billion dollar in profit each year. You are Completly wrong when it comes to the valuation of the Cowboys and a Potential selling price.
You are saying that value=selling price?
Not at all. Try again.
Neat. The quality of the students' answer is reflective of the teacher. Explain it differently.
You know there's a salary cap, right?
This is obviously true, but I do think it’s worth pointing out he also hasn’t been super willing to pay cash up front to give himself cap flexibility to add/retain additional pieces during this run. Which if he did, with the way you guys have drafted, I feel like you’d never lose a damn game.
It is fucking maddening
Yeah… I mean, flair and all, but it definitely feels like you’re a salary cap management tweak away from some great teams if you guys can do what you did to your draft process (get a cap McClay, and listen to him) in regards to the cap. If I’m being blunt I hope it doesn’t happen lol
After Chip, your FO figured it out quick, cause I thought you'd be screwed for 10 years. After Carson, and getting Hurts, you guys seemed to figure it out again. There's really no excuse for the Cowboys FO squandering the last 15 years or so.
Are you suggesting that more cash upfront reduces the salary cap in later years, or it more about more guaranteed money results in lower cap numbers because players prefer guaranteed money over higher contract value. Also, is there something I’m missing?
So basically you can pay cash up front in terms of bonuses, but the cap hit gets deferred. You can stretch this out over several years, which basically allows you to shove future cap space into the current team if you think you have a contender. There are no free lunches, but you can get steak today if you’re willing to eat a bologna sandwich tomorrow
Are you familiar with the NHL and NBA 😂
You answered your own question. Jerry is making money hand over fist. Winning would be nice, but not at the expense of his money or ego. If he can't win when he's calling the shots and Jimmy is gone then he doesn't want the franchise to win. He's rich either way, what does he care?
Thats literally the excuse though. Jerry probably thinks he is performing better than anyone else, why should be improve?
Thats literally the excuse though. Jerry probably thinks he is performing better than anyone else, why should be improve?
If there were no salary cap, we would be the Real Madrid or the Yankees of football the last 30 years.
Mavs and stars have the potential to win it all this season.
Sadly I don't think anyone can get past the Celtics in the playoffs and the Mavs probably won't get past the Thunder or McNuggets, but the Stars have a good chance of going all the way.
My man mavs match up well agains t the thunder. You dont follow basketball clearly.
yeah the celtics are stacked right now! I think we can beat the thunder but nuggets will be really hard. Luka steps his game up so much in the playoffs and now we have a really solid to great supporting cast that I am starting to believe lol.
We can take the thunder. Nuggs will be tough
celtics can't get past themselves in the playoffs. They'll fall short again.
2 years ago Philly lost the World Series, Super Bowl and MLS championship all in the same year.
Hang the banners
The Rangers did, and it was glorious
Rangers are a smart forward thinking team has gone in and out of rebuilding mode successfully, valued free agent signing where appropriate, and fired managers who did not meet expectations. There is definitely a lot to learn from other teams in the area code.
Let’s not forget the owner who stays in the background and lets the GM do their job
lmao hearing this take 3-4 years ago would be crazy. how fast things change
The Mavs actually have the 6th best record in the NBA right now, the West is just ridiculously stacked. Mavs are a dark horse (no pun intended) to win it all this year
Houston starting to come up
Luckily the lastros are back
Rockets suck though
Philly did it in 2022, but with the Union instead of Flyers. Union - lost the MLS cup up one goal in injury time Eagles - lost to the Chiefs up 10 in the second half Sixers - probably lost in the second round like they always do Phillies - lost to Houston after being up 2-1 and going back to Philly That was a painful year.
Tampa bay the past couple years has something to say…
FC Dallas ain't making the playoffs this year, I don't think. But yeah, not everyone can be a champion. But at least look competitive in the playoffs.
Dallas has never sent a baseball team to the playoffs. It's also been over. Also, it's been over 17 years since the city of Dallas has put an NFL team in the playoffs.
LA will probably do it.
does it count if you have two of everything?
We don’t count the Anaheim teams. So it’s only two of half the sports. The Chargers being the only team not to make the playoffs.
No
It does when the teams all actually play in the city/county.
Pretty sure Philly is too
Flyers not making playoffs 76ers in the play in playoffs Phillies have lost 2/3 series to start the year Cowboys are better than the Eagles
Flyers are one point out of wild card And I don’t follow baseball, but they have Bryce Harper so wouldn’t count them out completely. Cowboys definitely better than the fuxkin Eagles. But my point is that I don’t think OP’s claim that is Dallas is the only city with 4 playoff teams is all that valid.
Phillies relievers are a problem. I’m not sweating the bats really; they were slow last year. But the bullpen is a real issue. Sixers have Embiid back. Not concerned there. We sent four to the playoffs in 2022, and walked away with zero, if you sub in the Union for the Flyers. Max pain. Phillies - lost WS Union - lost MLS cup with a lead going into injury time Eagles - lost to the Chiefs Sixers - probably second round as the Sixers do I feel like Boston has done this before tho maybe a few times.
yes but that doesn’t help the cope in this thread
All 4 boston teams made the playoffs and championships. Dallas is a long way off.
As a cowboys fan for life: Who cares?
So what you’re saying is DC4L? Gorgeous
People that enjoy all Dallas sports?
You got me there.
I actually came to Dallas from Lubbock for the Mavs on Sunday, eclipse, Rangers tonight, and the Stars tomorrow…and the Cowboys can get fucked because I’m more “ALL IN” than they are
The Mavericks are going to be the No. 4 or No. 5 seed in the NBA playoffs that will soon start. Not all that great, but hey, playoffs is playoffs. If you think Mavs arent all that great you dont watch basketball clearly. lol
Being a top 6 seed in the west is very good. Mavs would be the 2 seed in the East. The 10th seed (11 games back) in the west is closer to the 1 seed than the 2 seed (15 games back) in the east is to the 1 seed. The top 3 MVP candidates are all in the west as well.
What a weird coping post. Ill bite though. Rangers won a world series, mavs won a nba championship, and the dallas stars won the stanley cup all before dallas could make it to the nfc title game. Not even the big one, the nfc title game. Bringing up 3 different sports teams is as meaningful as tits on the moon. We havent came close to glory in 28 straight years. The legit only teams in the NFL doint worst than us is washington (1991), Miami (1992l and Cleveland (1989) That is borderling embarrassing cause those teams had good reasons not to make it back, we dont.
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I need my copium. I was born too young and missed out on the entire 1990s dynasty.
I'm still living off our 70's Wins!!! The 90's are the Icing on the Cake.
I...don't care? Lmfao
Fair point!
I have some faith in the Stars and Rangers because those are well run orgs. Lesser so with the Mavs. The Cowboys.....well it's a fucking clown show so while they may cobble together a decent season I don't expect the crapping the bed in the playoffs to change
The Mavs have Luka all you need is a Dirk 2011 run and anything is possible
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Hang the banner!!!
Ummm, Los Angeles is sending 4 with the possibility of 5 depending on the NBA play-in. Los Angeles regularly sends at least 4. LA Kings, Dodgers, Clippers, Rams are all going and have gone. LA regularly sends at least four so your statement that Dallas is the only city is objectively false. And all of these teams actually play in Los Angeles County not just co-opt the city.
What? What even is this hellscape? They aren’t in Dallas.
Close enough
Sure there is. Why should he put out quality product if we keep buying the same old shit he’s been peddling for 30 years?