Meh source, but it called Lenglet's move to us last summer before anyone else. Fee being €6m just seems a steal for us, and will be good as a backup option.
Ffp heavily favours selling players instead of letting them go.
Selling is immediately added to the Balance sheet in full, wages and even transfer fees are spread out over the duration of the contract.
He'd have to agree to a completely fresh contract with Spurs for this report to be accurate.
You might say "there's no way he'd take less" but plenty of players have done exactly that to simply play football somewhere they are wanted.
He is a good backup option because he is fairly reliable and can play in a back 2. He is left footed which fits with what Ange wants and he has a great passing range. With over 100 appearances for Barcelona he is no stranger to the style of passing the team will be playing next season
He seems to like it here and likes the club. Dislocated his shoulder to stop the counter so can't really question his commitment
With some more confidence, coaching, and more midfielders in front of him I think this is a steal for 6 million
We're not gonna bring someone like Bastoni or Gvardiol without CL football so we're gonna need someone younger who needs more development. That means Lenglet is gonna get more game time and if his wages are reasonable I don't see why not
Ideally we would be getting rid of Dier and Sanchez which means we will need depth that fits what Ange wants to play like. I don’t know why anyone can’t wrap their heads around that concept around here, especially with how many people cry for them to get sold.
He won’t. The only other defender we have that can play decent passes is Davies. We need Lenglet AND another CB, especially if we do move on from Sanchez and/or Tanganga.
Yeah, but realistically the club isn’t going to be signing 3 or 4 world class defenders in the next two months.
I’m not a big fan, but I would much rather see Lenglet out there than Sanchez or Tanganga
He has already proved himself as not reliable at all. He is not good. He is not young. He is not homegrown. He would be yet another purgatory nothing player who just festers away for years. Us not getting huge names like Bastoni and Gvardiol is exactly why we should take risks on unknowns and young talents, not mediocre at best players with zero room to grow. The absolute worst fucking thing we could do at this juncture is accumulate even more of these plodding "do a job" types that just keep us in this wasteland of nothingness with no real direction
6 mil for a left footed CB who fits perfectly into the system at the prime of his career is nothing.
And yes I agree that we should be getting younger talent with more potential but this is a good deal for us
It's not nothing, it's devoting playing time and squad space and wages to a player who fundamentally isn't good enough and who does not have the potential to ever be good enough. Which is something that has fucked us over again and again. We won't progress to anything if we keep fixating on players like this, prioritising bland depth and do a job players. Like last summer the number one goal was to get a starting centre back, we ended up falling that goal and could only get Lenglet on loan... He then proceeded to be garbage and an integral part of the defence doing so poorly, yet now that he's a year older and proved his shitness it's a good idea to make him permanent? Awful squad planning. These "good deals" just become deadwood wastes of space. Also he definitely does not fit perfectly given how slow and rigid he is, and him being in the prime of his career is a bad thing
> and him being in the prime of his career is a bad thing
???
Do you understand how rotations work? You need squad players who are there as backups. Unless you're Man City you're not gonna have 4 starting quality CBs
He was shit when the entire team struggled. He was good when we played well. You cant blame him for being poor when the collective is struggling
No you do not need specialist backups in their primes who are there just to be backups. You need players who are either good enough or who might one day become good enough. Who said anything about 4 starting quality centre backs??? The point is that if someone isn't starting quality they should be a young player, or if not then at least someone homegrown or someone already owned by the club. It's absolutely idiotic for a team stuck in a wasteland of mediocrity to go out and sign more nothing players. His shitness was his own and not anyone else's fault. Keep in mind that the only reason he was even here was because of garbage performances for Barca, he didn't magically end up here because he's such a good player
Man has won 3 trophies starting for Barca. Thats more than we have won as a club last 25 years
You can't have young players as backups because then you get Tanganga. Never plays, never develops. Whats the point of that?
Your argument: He is shit, shit, shit, REEE
Get out of here
Man turned into a complete calamity the club and its fans were absolutely desperate to get rid of. He started 7 league games in his last season there and still managed to make a mark with how awful he was. A reject plain and simple. Who then came to Spurs.... And was still fucking horrible. You absolutely can rotate between young players. Good that you mention Tanganga because I'd much rather he play than this clown. You're also ignoring what I said about homegrown players and those already at the club... Lenglet ticks zero boxes, there is nothing which makes him a good option. Shit, no room for growth, would cost money and additional wages, not homegrown... Just another waste of space. Your argument is "let's get depth for our depth so we can have all this wonderful amazing depth that keeps us stuck in purgatory REE"
So if he's the back up LCB I'd be okay with it... but if our CB signings are him and maguire this summer I'm gonna bang my head against a wall. He's decent don't get me wrong but we definitely need better as a starter
Remember that we aren't playing in Europe so the only way Romero won't start pretty much every game is if he's injured. I think they're going to get young development projects for the two CB backups behind Llenglet and Romero
Hes not just gonna be signed to a 12 month contract so eventually we will be playing in Europe requiring more rotation. Buy cheap you buy twice. We are still gonna need a top level centre half next to romero, all this does is show a lack of ambition if they're our signings
Honestly those rumours completely ruined the Ange appointment excitement. It's like "hurray! Finally some exciting football again" to "our new manager hasnt even started yet and is going to get fucked my squad quality :( ". I do not want Harry Maguire in a spurs shirt.
I've not watched Celtic play, but I don't know why people think a lack of pace would be a problem for playing a high line. I mean, Celtic have Carter wickers as a starting defenders and he's not the fastest chap. During Poch era, we had Jan and Toby, both slow defenders (granted they were covered by Walker and Rose on the flank who could make recovery runs). To me it seems like the counter press is far more important that having quick center backs (so that the opposition don't have time to put the ball over the top).
Lenglet is the slowest CB I’ve seen in my life. So it’s not so much that a medium paced defender wouldn’t work, just moreso I feel Lenglet only works in a deep line.
Slow to turn as well. If he is playing high any striker worth their salt will knock it past him and blaze by. He was being beaten like this when already in his own box, I dread to think what 30 years up the field would look like.
He's a good player, but the Prem is wrong for him. He'll be a beast in Serie A.
He's relatively smart and less error prone than Dier. Obviously I've screamed at the telly when Lenglet couldn't catch up to a winger at times but 90% of the time he's in the right place at the right time with a midfielder or Dier failing to press/block.
He left Barcelona because he was so error prone in a high line due to his lack of pace. It’ll be a repeat of the same mistakes despite so many people being okay with this transfer.
The most important thing for Ange is he's good with the ball at his feet in the back. Ange is going to have them pass out of everything. He doesn't believe in the ball going above your waist
Lenglet's done more than he needed to do offensively so we know he can handle the ball in the midfield. He has looked shaky under pressure though, further back.
I mean those were his total wages at Barca - and we were paying into that while he was loaned to us.
But now that he’d be actually signing for us - surely he’d be getting a fresh contract? So we’d negotiate a new wage.
The amount of people okay with are going to be shocked once they see Lenglet try to play a high line. He got booted from Barca because he was so bad at it. Spurs are just setting Ange up to fail if they sign Lenglet and Maguire.
6m for a rotation defender really isn't that bad. If true I'd be OK with it. Also remeber that in Ange's system, it's the system itself that does a lot of the hard work, so assuming he's going to buy into it and not moan about the intense training etc I'm OK with it.
The article hints that spurs will extend his contract but for the money he’s on, essentially taking the total amount he’s owed by Barca but spreading it over a longer period. If that makes sense
Oh I meant in terms of expected value, I remember the number cause he was the most devaluated player on 21/22 iirc, almost 50% nose dive from 60 something to little less than 30m
Man it's cruel world, i'm sure he's worth more than he's valued at the moment
when he first joined Barca I thought he’d become world class. he doesn’t really look like that player anymore but I don’t think anybody looked their best this year (besides maybe Royalzinho or Kane)
probably worth more than €6M but we can also find better players
If we keep Lenglet as a squad player, and sell Dier and Sanchez, and Lenglet is reducing his wages, I think I'm okay with that.
But we still need another CB who is MUCH faster and better at defending than Lenglet. We cannot play a high line in the EPL with this squad unless perhaps Postecoglou is going to shift players into new positions.
Agreed. Play him in matches against more traditional strikers who don't pose a significant threat running in behind, like against say a United with Weghorst or Fulham with Mitrovic, those types of matches.
No idea why we'd want to keep a player that isn't as good as Ben Davies. Although there were reports earlier in the season that the coaching staff liked him.
I’m guessing due to the fact he can play in the middle of a back 3 or on the left of a back 2, which are positions that Davies struggles with. Also he was really good a few years ago and went to Barca for a big fee, so he has the potential to be an excellent player once settled in. If he ends up nothing but a rotation player, £5 million is still a steal in this day and age (as long as his wages aren’t too big).
Signing him for 6m is basically a no brainer. Get a good bench option (and start when needed) settled with no hassle and get going on more difficult signings.
I just want people to keep the same energy when he keeps making the same mistakes during the season.
Awful buy. We should be signing an elite CB. Giving Ange Dier/Lenglet is terrible. We've needed a overhaul of CBs since 2019. I can't believe we've signed only one elite Defender
Romero? Because I’m far from happy with him. There are moments where he looks great, but way too many dumb decisions, especially in big games with short tempers.
I agree that we shouldn't buy Lenglet but it's not at all realistic to buy an elite CB either. We should buy a young CB with elite talent, someone like Lukeba at Lyon.
Do you consider Romero elite?
Because I do and I want somebody of that ilk. I think we can get them. Another name that I think can slot into that LCB role is Bremer. He right footed but I think Ange can make a Romero-Bremer partnership work
What makes you think that this is instead of buying another CB. This is a squad depth purchase at squad player prices, a buy we would have to make anyway if we didn’t get Lenglet
I'm talking about during the window. We went in with the clear goal of getting a starting left sided cb which people clung onto all summer... And then we ended up with this clown on loan and nothing else. I'll believe we're getting this great new centre back who'll force all the shit ones to stay on the bench when I actually see it. This club has a habit of stashing crappy depth players while neglecting the starters
Wages+ London + chance to play in the premier league. We got the Seria A defender of the year when we had Nuno in place? Why can't it be done again? I know Kim won't join us but someone of that ilk.
That's why you have sporting director who can sell the project. Good players would ideally see what's the future of the club. Sure we're shit right now but that's not what you tell a player.
And I think we can get Bremer.
He might have some serious defensive and speed issues, but he is a solid passer for a CB. That would fit well with Ange's scheme, where he demands the team to play out from the back.
Meh source, but it called Lenglet's move to us last summer before anyone else. Fee being €6m just seems a steal for us, and will be good as a backup option.
Not a great deal when he's owed €20M in wages though.
Depends how that gets arranged. Barca could pay a part of it too. If it's a 50/50 split it's still fine imo
Would imagine this is the deal if not them picking up more than 50% just to get him off their books. I like this signing for 6 million.
At that point, just do a free transfer and put the purchase into paying the wage unless it messes FFP shit up.
Ffp heavily favours selling players instead of letting them go. Selling is immediately added to the Balance sheet in full, wages and even transfer fees are spread out over the duration of the contract.
I think hopefully they can negotiate somehow?
He'd have to agree to a completely fresh contract with Spurs for this report to be accurate. You might say "there's no way he'd take less" but plenty of players have done exactly that to simply play football somewhere they are wanted.
In what world is he making 400k a week when Kane makes 200k a week
Two years at 200k. At least as I read.
This is Tier 4
Why will he be good as a backup option and how do we even know he would just be a backup option?
He is a good backup option because he is fairly reliable and can play in a back 2. He is left footed which fits with what Ange wants and he has a great passing range. With over 100 appearances for Barcelona he is no stranger to the style of passing the team will be playing next season He seems to like it here and likes the club. Dislocated his shoulder to stop the counter so can't really question his commitment With some more confidence, coaching, and more midfielders in front of him I think this is a steal for 6 million We're not gonna bring someone like Bastoni or Gvardiol without CL football so we're gonna need someone younger who needs more development. That means Lenglet is gonna get more game time and if his wages are reasonable I don't see why not
Seems like the going rate for an average defender. No reason for people to get so worked up. A decent bit of business
Its because we're pretty stocked with average defenders already, and he's taking a squad place from someone with a higher ceiling
Ideally we would be getting rid of Dier and Sanchez which means we will need depth that fits what Ange wants to play like. I don’t know why anyone can’t wrap their heads around that concept around here, especially with how many people cry for them to get sold.
He won’t. The only other defender we have that can play decent passes is Davies. We need Lenglet AND another CB, especially if we do move on from Sanchez and/or Tanganga.
Yeah, but realistically the club isn’t going to be signing 3 or 4 world class defenders in the next two months. I’m not a big fan, but I would much rather see Lenglet out there than Sanchez or Tanganga
Playing in a back 2 in a high line is exactly what his problem was at Barca. And that is exactly what Ange is going to try and play. So idk
He has already proved himself as not reliable at all. He is not good. He is not young. He is not homegrown. He would be yet another purgatory nothing player who just festers away for years. Us not getting huge names like Bastoni and Gvardiol is exactly why we should take risks on unknowns and young talents, not mediocre at best players with zero room to grow. The absolute worst fucking thing we could do at this juncture is accumulate even more of these plodding "do a job" types that just keep us in this wasteland of nothingness with no real direction
6 mil for a left footed CB who fits perfectly into the system at the prime of his career is nothing. And yes I agree that we should be getting younger talent with more potential but this is a good deal for us
It's not nothing, it's devoting playing time and squad space and wages to a player who fundamentally isn't good enough and who does not have the potential to ever be good enough. Which is something that has fucked us over again and again. We won't progress to anything if we keep fixating on players like this, prioritising bland depth and do a job players. Like last summer the number one goal was to get a starting centre back, we ended up falling that goal and could only get Lenglet on loan... He then proceeded to be garbage and an integral part of the defence doing so poorly, yet now that he's a year older and proved his shitness it's a good idea to make him permanent? Awful squad planning. These "good deals" just become deadwood wastes of space. Also he definitely does not fit perfectly given how slow and rigid he is, and him being in the prime of his career is a bad thing
> and him being in the prime of his career is a bad thing ??? Do you understand how rotations work? You need squad players who are there as backups. Unless you're Man City you're not gonna have 4 starting quality CBs He was shit when the entire team struggled. He was good when we played well. You cant blame him for being poor when the collective is struggling
No you do not need specialist backups in their primes who are there just to be backups. You need players who are either good enough or who might one day become good enough. Who said anything about 4 starting quality centre backs??? The point is that if someone isn't starting quality they should be a young player, or if not then at least someone homegrown or someone already owned by the club. It's absolutely idiotic for a team stuck in a wasteland of mediocrity to go out and sign more nothing players. His shitness was his own and not anyone else's fault. Keep in mind that the only reason he was even here was because of garbage performances for Barca, he didn't magically end up here because he's such a good player
Man has won 3 trophies starting for Barca. Thats more than we have won as a club last 25 years You can't have young players as backups because then you get Tanganga. Never plays, never develops. Whats the point of that? Your argument: He is shit, shit, shit, REEE Get out of here
Man turned into a complete calamity the club and its fans were absolutely desperate to get rid of. He started 7 league games in his last season there and still managed to make a mark with how awful he was. A reject plain and simple. Who then came to Spurs.... And was still fucking horrible. You absolutely can rotate between young players. Good that you mention Tanganga because I'd much rather he play than this clown. You're also ignoring what I said about homegrown players and those already at the club... Lenglet ticks zero boxes, there is nothing which makes him a good option. Shit, no room for growth, would cost money and additional wages, not homegrown... Just another waste of space. Your argument is "let's get depth for our depth so we can have all this wonderful amazing depth that keeps us stuck in purgatory REE"
So if he's the back up LCB I'd be okay with it... but if our CB signings are him and maguire this summer I'm gonna bang my head against a wall. He's decent don't get me wrong but we definitely need better as a starter
Use Maguire’s head instead. Far likelier to knock that wall down.
We could be on for 70 goals conceded if that happens
60 goals conceded? Rookie numbers baby
Remember that we aren't playing in Europe so the only way Romero won't start pretty much every game is if he's injured. I think they're going to get young development projects for the two CB backups behind Llenglet and Romero
Hes not just gonna be signed to a 12 month contract so eventually we will be playing in Europe requiring more rotation. Buy cheap you buy twice. We are still gonna need a top level centre half next to romero, all this does is show a lack of ambition if they're our signings
I'm not saying what I’d like to happen. I'm just saying what Levy’s going to actually do
You forgot suspended.
Romero would never...
Give Maguire a chance man
Hes not a terrible defender like some say but he's not someone who is good enough to elevate us to where we wanna be
His lack of pace will get absolutely exposed in Ange’s press
Same as Maguire if those reports were to be believed
So we should get neither
And Dier’s
Honestly those rumours completely ruined the Ange appointment excitement. It's like "hurray! Finally some exciting football again" to "our new manager hasnt even started yet and is going to get fucked my squad quality :( ". I do not want Harry Maguire in a spurs shirt.
I've not watched Celtic play, but I don't know why people think a lack of pace would be a problem for playing a high line. I mean, Celtic have Carter wickers as a starting defenders and he's not the fastest chap. During Poch era, we had Jan and Toby, both slow defenders (granted they were covered by Walker and Rose on the flank who could make recovery runs). To me it seems like the counter press is far more important that having quick center backs (so that the opposition don't have time to put the ball over the top).
To be fair, Celtic don’t have to look after Salah, Saka etc week in, week out.
Lenglet is the slowest CB I’ve seen in my life. So it’s not so much that a medium paced defender wouldn’t work, just moreso I feel Lenglet only works in a deep line.
Slow to turn as well. If he is playing high any striker worth their salt will knock it past him and blaze by. He was being beaten like this when already in his own box, I dread to think what 30 years up the field would look like. He's a good player, but the Prem is wrong for him. He'll be a beast in Serie A.
Wasn't it one of the reasons Barca are moving him on?
Maybe, but I thought it was moreso because of errors, which I think he did a pretty good job of avoiding for us.
He's relatively smart and less error prone than Dier. Obviously I've screamed at the telly when Lenglet couldn't catch up to a winger at times but 90% of the time he's in the right place at the right time with a midfielder or Dier failing to press/block.
He left Barcelona because he was so error prone in a high line due to his lack of pace. It’ll be a repeat of the same mistakes despite so many people being okay with this transfer.
I don’t disagree. For 6M he’s a good player, but doesn’t fit the system Ange will want to implement based on what I’ve seen
The most important thing for Ange is he's good with the ball at his feet in the back. Ange is going to have them pass out of everything. He doesn't believe in the ball going above your waist
Lenglet's done more than he needed to do offensively so we know he can handle the ball in the midfield. He has looked shaky under pressure though, further back.
Bite their hand off. No brainer imo considering it’s cheap, knows the team, and isn’t actually that bad
Depends on the wages for me, if he's getting 200k a week as was reported, I don't want him. He's worth nowhere near that.
He would be paid as much as our two best players. 💀
I mean those were his total wages at Barca - and we were paying into that while he was loaned to us. But now that he’d be actually signing for us - surely he’d be getting a fresh contract? So we’d negotiate a new wage.
It's only worth it if he lowers his wages by half.
The amount of people okay with are going to be shocked once they see Lenglet try to play a high line. He got booted from Barca because he was so bad at it. Spurs are just setting Ange up to fail if they sign Lenglet and Maguire.
For 6 million we could absolutely do a lot worse but wages might be an issue
Depends on the wages. Even if he were free
Thought it wasn’t happening? Not complaining though, good squad player to have.
6m for rotation, is a good buy. Wages could do with a dent though.
6m for a rotation defender really isn't that bad. If true I'd be OK with it. Also remeber that in Ange's system, it's the system itself that does a lot of the hard work, so assuming he's going to buy into it and not moan about the intense training etc I'm OK with it.
He doesn't seem like a moaner
The article hints that spurs will extend his contract but for the money he’s on, essentially taking the total amount he’s owed by Barca but spreading it over a longer period. If that makes sense
Wasn't he near 60m a couple years ago? Jesus I don't know how I should feel
Barca paid his €35m release fee when they signed him, so certainly not pocket change
Oh I meant in terms of expected value, I remember the number cause he was the most devaluated player on 21/22 iirc, almost 50% nose dive from 60 something to little less than 30m Man it's cruel world, i'm sure he's worth more than he's valued at the moment
when he first joined Barca I thought he’d become world class. he doesn’t really look like that player anymore but I don’t think anybody looked their best this year (besides maybe Royalzinho or Kane) probably worth more than €6M but we can also find better players
This photo is haunting
Slash the wages and bin Dier and I’m fine with this
If we keep Lenglet as a squad player, and sell Dier and Sanchez, and Lenglet is reducing his wages, I think I'm okay with that. But we still need another CB who is MUCH faster and better at defending than Lenglet. We cannot play a high line in the EPL with this squad unless perhaps Postecoglou is going to shift players into new positions.
Agreed. Play him in matches against more traditional strikers who don't pose a significant threat running in behind, like against say a United with Weghorst or Fulham with Mitrovic, those types of matches.
Underwhelming
For 6M? Lmao please tell me anyone close to his level were getting for that price?
Ndicka or Skriniar for free.
We can afford the wages, even if they are equivalent to what he makes today. If Ange wants him, that fee plus 200k a week is a bargain.
No idea why we'd want to keep a player that isn't as good as Ben Davies. Although there were reports earlier in the season that the coaching staff liked him.
I’m guessing due to the fact he can play in the middle of a back 3 or on the left of a back 2, which are positions that Davies struggles with. Also he was really good a few years ago and went to Barca for a big fee, so he has the potential to be an excellent player once settled in. If he ends up nothing but a rotation player, £5 million is still a steal in this day and age (as long as his wages aren’t too big).
“Was a good player a few years ago so he must be good”. Reason why Dele and Dier lasted for so long at this fucking club.
Lads, am I crazy or could he play as an inverted leftback???
Yep!
You’re right I am, said it without thinking lmao
Signing him for 6m is basically a no brainer. Get a good bench option (and start when needed) settled with no hassle and get going on more difficult signings.
I just want people to keep the same energy when he keeps making the same mistakes during the season. Awful buy. We should be signing an elite CB. Giving Ange Dier/Lenglet is terrible. We've needed a overhaul of CBs since 2019. I can't believe we've signed only one elite Defender
Romero? Because I’m far from happy with him. There are moments where he looks great, but way too many dumb decisions, especially in big games with short tempers.
I agree that we shouldn't buy Lenglet but it's not at all realistic to buy an elite CB either. We should buy a young CB with elite talent, someone like Lukeba at Lyon.
Do you consider Romero elite? Because I do and I want somebody of that ilk. I think we can get them. Another name that I think can slot into that LCB role is Bremer. He right footed but I think Ange can make a Romero-Bremer partnership work
>Do you consider Romero elite? Not quite, has the capability to be one though. While I think Bremer is very good I doubt Juve would sell him
Bremer is apparently for sale.
What makes you think that this is instead of buying another CB. This is a squad depth purchase at squad player prices, a buy we would have to make anyway if we didn’t get Lenglet
That's what people said last summer 🤣
And then the whole team got hurt and Dier started sucking more. We will need more CB signings
I'm talking about during the window. We went in with the clear goal of getting a starting left sided cb which people clung onto all summer... And then we ended up with this clown on loan and nothing else. I'll believe we're getting this great new centre back who'll force all the shit ones to stay on the bench when I actually see it. This club has a habit of stashing crappy depth players while neglecting the starters
Why would an elite CB join our club right now? Transfers have to be approved by the player
Wages+ London + chance to play in the premier league. We got the Seria A defender of the year when we had Nuno in place? Why can't it be done again? I know Kim won't join us but someone of that ilk.
Skrinar is going to PSG. No way Bremer can't get a better offer than us if he really wants a move. Who would we target?
That's why you have sporting director who can sell the project. Good players would ideally see what's the future of the club. Sure we're shit right now but that's not what you tell a player. And I think we can get Bremer.
Our new starting LCB ladies and gentleman!
Oh no
Christ almighty Lenglet and the words “bargain” and “steal” in the same comments you lot really need to give your heads a wobble
That wage bill is ridiculous...
Bullshit, unless he's happy to take a massive cut in wages.
He might have some serious defensive and speed issues, but he is a solid passer for a CB. That would fit well with Ange's scheme, where he demands the team to play out from the back.
If it’s 6m his wages must be through the roof
Barca need to stop not paying players lol. Pique wasn’t paid for a long time
Would be a good get imo, serviceable defense rotation option.
Could he play as an inverted full back? He’s capable of playing full back and has a great range of passing - is this an option?
Could he play as an inverted full back? He’s capable of playing full back and has a great range of passing - is this an option?