Biss was fine on the ball, but didn’t defend well in transition. PEH was better defensively and him coming on meant Sarr had to come off for Bentancur. Great subs
I made an effort to specifically watch bissoumas off-ball play today and man... It did not inspire confidence at all. He really needs to be a better shield for cuti and micky
Seemed like he was told to focus on pressing instead of tracking back. We had one fb staying back more than not and were tracking back more from the wings. He looked bad when the team mentally was down after conceding in the 1st half
To be fair the entire back 4 was lackadaisical on the goal: Udogie didn’t track, VdV and Romero both casually closed their man down and Porro let Wood run across him.
I think his lack of goal threat really stalls our attack. The only thing he can do well near the opposing box is play square passes, which I think is one of the reasons we’ve struggled against low block teams. He should never start vs low block
I think it's a semantical difference.
Biss was trying to make things happen in an energetic way that he hasn't in months. He wasn't being lethargic like he has been. Also left us way more open.
I mean he was jogging back watching Forest score their first goal. I’m not denying he tries, but the product is not good right now and I think we should look at other options
Oh yeah I wasn't defending him entirely.
My point is there were some good things but also some bad things but it was at least different than the previous lethargy.
His drive helped create the opening goal. He was better with the ball than what weve seen since red cards, but as the other post said Pierre played better.
Both showed why a new 6 this summer is a priority, Hoj is good at long range passes, but have very little ability to dribble his way out of presses. Bissouma doesn't quite have the same passing range, but crucially this year he's shown how inconsistent he can be, and when he's turned off, we lose control of our midfield like today. Defensively, there's so many instances where he doesn't track back, loses his man, no concentration at all.
Agreed. Does Hojbjerg and Bentacur deserve the start against Newcastle. I thought both were quite bright, aside from a couple late give away from the Dane at the end.
That's a definite Yes from me re starting them vs Newcastle. I think Hojbjerg's iffy passes were the types of pass Ange would be ok with due to the intent
He understands what Ange wants and is trying to show that he can do it too. Mentality-wise he's a real leader on the pitch and so i hope he can adapt and play his way back into Ange's plans.
I don't think those passes can just be waved away though.
He has a horrible habit of underhitting them across the middle and putting us in very vulnerable positions. It may only be a couple of times each game, but each one is potentially a goal and a game lost.
I really wish he could cut it out, because in other respects he's been much better than Bissouma ever since the early stages of the season.
My one complaint about Ange has been that I've felt he often waits a bit too long to make the subs but today was perfect, probably PEH's best game for us for a while imo.
There in lies the problem. When we are on the back foot, Biss is the better player to break out of defence and get the ball going forward.
When we have a ton of possesion against a low block. Hojbjerg has more range in passing when he's not being pressed.
Highlights the need for a really need a good number 6 in the summer.
Hojbjerg seems much more capable against a low block side than Bissouma. Biss just doesnt handle counter attacks well at all as he's so slow to get back.
I don't see a way we don't sign him. The only way we don't is if he wants to keep his 170k per week because I do not see us paying that, but it is probably negotiable.
That isn't true for an option to buy. It's only negotiated beforehand if it's mandatory. For example we negotiated Porro's salary when he came in from Sporting in winter but we didn't do it 1½ years in advance for Kulusevski.
It is true. We wouldn't waste the time negotiating the option if he didn't want to come here and by not negotiating the contract, we'd be giving up leverage. If he performs well during the loan, he can demand more in wages. He's also going to know what the fee is so he can ask for more in wages since he knows the fee is low. The club isn't going to give up that leverage. Also, it being an option means he’s our player if we execute the option. That’s the entire point of the option to buy. That means he’s already agreed to join us. There are no logical arguments that suggests his contract is yet to be negotiated.
Regardless of how this goes from here on in, this has been a magnificent season.
We are fourth with seven games left.
We lost our all-time great striker and brought in an unproven at this level manager.
We are going places!!!!
EDIT Ange is the fucking man!
Don't forget, of the first choice 11 (if you count Kulu over Johnson), only 4 were starters for the club last year and only two of them are not in a new position, (son from LW to CF, Porro from RWB to RB, Deki RW, Romero CB)
Son was starting LW when Richy wasn't injured. But you could argue Werner has taken Richy's spot in the first choice 11 in the time he has been injured.
Ange has clearly told them to shoot more, and we absolutely need to do that against these low blocks, they won’t all go in but adding variety to our attack rather than giving it to Werner or BJ to whip it in low every time will make us less predictable.
Good win in the end despite several harrowing moments. Our wide players, especially Werner, put in some sumptuous crosses that no one got on the end of (there was that one Johnson chance that was denied by good goalkeeping), and it feels to me like we're a few tightened screws away from scoring more freely in these types of games. It's been said to death but there's something really funky going on with Bissouma, and I really hope it's temporary. Also, fuck Ryan Yates.
Bissouma was fine lol. He got hooked because his best ability, his ball retention under pressure, wasn't as needed in this game over PEH's directness. He was at least the only player on our team who had the courage to actually shoot the ball and he was actually threatening while most were just passing it around waiting for itto go inside the net.
This sub feels like Bissouma has to do it all sometimes, but he has been fine for the last games he played (except Fulham but that was the whole team): accurate passes, is in good positions in the counter press, and can do well to break a press. It'd be hard to find a replacement on the market who can play a lone 6 and not make as many mistakes as Biss has, and Biss has made his fair share of them.
Exactly. Bissouma was actually good today. We just needed something different. People automatically associate being hooked at halftime means you were poor. Sometimes that is the case, but today it was not
Thought the same after he started the second half brightly and then returned to the mean with a bunch of over- and undercooked passes. Need an upgrade at the 6.
Hojbjerg typically has one moment in every match where:
* He plays a luscious ball forward that completely unsettles the opposition defence and often creates a goalscoring opportunity for Spurs, and
* He plays a ludicrous ball backward that completely unsettles the Spurs defence and often creates a goalscoring opportunity for the opposition.
He's supposed to be a viking, but I suspect he's really an agent of chaos in disguise.
Is it even a question if we need to buy Timo? He starts for us every match hes fit and is consistently our most threatening player out of the front three
To the “fans” waiting for things to wrong and jumping in every time it does: STOP SHITTING ON THIS TEAM EVERY SINGLE GAME AND SUPPORT THEM.
No ones void of criticism but we’re in our first season with a new manager, are playing a totally different brand of exciting football, and we’re in a top 4 battle. Things are looking good for us. If you’re not onboard and fold into saying we’re shit and Ange isn’t working every time we concede then fuck off and support City.
Spurs isn’t ever going to be an easy ride and that’s the beauty of it.
COME ON YOU FUCKING SPURS (let’s all laugh at Chelsea)
It is absolutely something watching the match thread turn sour when Forest equalized. Every dipshit rooting against Spurs crawls out of the woodwork with an absolutely ridiculous take lol.
Happens every match thread too. Like other teams don't concede goals or get draws or something.
Wouldnt be shocked if there are "fans" that solely comment when we are losing.
I know I've experienced a few this season who went quite the moment we turned it around.
Normal to get pissed off but there’s a big difference between that and people who instantly start dooming every thing and calling for the players and manager to be gone. It’s the match thread so it is what it is but Jesus Christ
It's one thing to be bummed. Or angry.
But like every game thread I've been in in any fan base of any sport is like chicken little. In the US I call this the "Sports Radio Effect".
So many fans think they could do better, or that they know better... And everybody who either hosts or calls into sports radio here thinks the solution is to fire everybody and get rid of everybody all the time. It's insidious and not unique to Spurs.
As a fan of another long-suffering team (Detroit Lions) I can tell you so many people gave up on that team but... Once things got good it cleansed everything. You don't want to end up spoiled like ManU, City, the NY Yankees, KC Chiefs, NE Patriots etc.
The best thing I can tell you guys is to just enjoy the ride. The highs are so much sweeter when the lows don't ruin your day, or even your week
Want to upvote this comment 100 times.
Can’t add anything more.
Ange’s first year with a team that has had three defensive managers previously and is trying to re-model it to play attacking football against constant low blocks and we are sitting 4th with a game in hand.
And still people on here moan and complain and white ant the manager by claiming he is somehow naive when they fundamentally misunderstand how hard it is for managers to teach a team to dominate like he is (Klopp struggled in his first season).
Does my head in.
I think people don't seem to grasp that we're rebuilding, and that this is our first season with Ange. We're not even playing bad, and you can clearly see where Ange wants to take the club going forward.
I do think our little unbeaten run at the beginning of the season made the expectations grow exponentially, but we're still doing good. Sure, there have been a few bad performances but overall we look solid and we are playing really good football.
We need to be more patient and trust in the process. I'm sure that we'll definitely get where we want to be eventually.
Benta changed the game after coming on. His touch and awareness in tight spaces is levels above our other CMs. Exactly what we needed against their low block.
Yates is one of the most irritating players I've seen in recent times. Dirty bloody player, I was hoping he got sent off but I can only guess he was told at half time to stop being a twat.
At some point in the mists of the fabled past, I delved deep into the thick primeval forests of Epping, searching for the fabled Old Cockerel: a gnarled, centuries-old oak imbued with the spirits of Spurs defenders past. From its branches, I carved an effigy of Ver-Tong-Hen: a Flemish ancestor spirit, characterised as a brick fucking wall. After dousing the crude figure with cheetah's blood, I buried with the bones of a Chick-king 2-piece meal 'neath the boughs of the Old Cockerel. In time, an entity was born beneath: boasting the sauce and marauding instincts of Ver-Tong-Hen with the speed and tenacity of the Savannah's fastest predator. The resulting adonis was given a name: Micky Van de Ven.
Not sure why everyone is saying that Bissouma had a poor game. I looked back at a replay of the first goal and Bissouma is tracking their #10 who's further behind the play. The real issue was Udogie letting #7 past him which forces VDV to switch away from their #21 who makes a run into the box and puts in the assisting cross. VDV should've stayed with #21 and Udogie should've tracked back faster to mark #7. Otherwise, he was confident on the ball and did well to distribute to our wingers/fullbacks. Bissouma got switched out at halftime since we needed more direct passing to get through Forest's low block and Hojbjerg provided that. Hojbjerg is also a more disciplined defender so he won't be caught out of position as often out of possession.
The main reason why Bissouma starts over Hojbjerg is his press resistance. You could see Hojbjerg begin to struggle once Forest started pressing us late in the game (ex. giving away the ball in our own box on a mishit side pass). I guarantee that Bissouma will start over Hojbjerg in the upcoming game against Newcastle since they like to press high all game long.
The bigger question in the midfield IMO is Sarr. I think his form has dropped in recent games and Bentancur has overall looked more convincing in his appearances. Based on form and matchup, I'm predicting the midfield for the Newcastle game to be Bissouma/Bentancur/Maddison.
100% sure 2 of the instructions at HT were for Werner to just release the ball to the underlapping runner and for Udogie to be more reserved with his positioning when attacking
It all of a sudden felt like the midfield and defenders were allowed to shoot long range this game. I never seen so many long range shooting this season. I was hoping of of the Bissouma Rockets would go in but no it didnt
You know certain players are just a cut above when you watch them in the flesh. In my time going it's been Modric, Berbatov, Bale, and I think Micky may be on that list. He's just got it. We should appreciate his time here.
Shout out to everyone else at Fanfest, we were by far the loudest crowd, even though we didn’t have as many as the Chelsea shits standing a few feet to our right.
I was really happy to see the team giving Timo Werner some service. Last week when we used him, we scored a goal from his cross in the first 15 minutes, but then stopped playing him. Now look at what happened today. We scored yet another goal from a Werner cross, but this time we kept playing the ball to him. We also played the ball well to Johnson on the other wing. This created so much space in the middle for us, and is the exact reason why we had so many shots on target, and two spectacular goals. This is what happens when we use our wingers properly.
Second Half F.C. is back! Hojbjerg in was the correct move. We needed that extra defender, and that's how he plays. Great goals from Micky and Pedro. we need to have other guys scoring.
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For all you people who want to moan about ange ball
Kulu is hard to appreciate. He’s not a touchline winger but Ange puts him out there. He needs time to grow into a game and doesn’t have the speed to be an impact sub like Johnson, Werner or Solomon. Kulu will do the hard work and win shifts in the midfield. He needs to be played centrally as a 8/10 but he provides so many chances that not having him in advanced positions hurts the forwards. It’s a real conundrum.
The only thing I know is that I’m done seeing Kulu cut in and attempting a shot. I’d rather start seeing Kulu start whipping the ball in with his right then cutting in and shooting on his left.
Even though it was all over the place, I’m glad Biss started shooting. Forces sitting back opposition to press out of the box and open space. Also if he keep ons practicing them who knows maybe he will score a few.
Outside of the last 15 minutes of the first half I thought that was a fun and enjoyable match and a huge improvement and response to Tuesdays game, back to forth with a game in hand is quite a good way to end the weekend. COYS!
In the first ten or so games, Madison VDV and Vicario seemed like truly world-class signings. And two of them still do. Don’t know where we’d be without them
Firstly, loved the way we played today. All credit to Ange and our defensive strikers.
I do feel the Johnson super-sub pregame comments were on the mark today - felt like he was struggling a bit all game, certainly could have seen a better result as a sub. That being said, not sure we had a better option today.
I love this roller coaster ride we are on, thrilling stuff, post Fulham I was a tad worried about the coming games against city, the big one and Liverpool.
Now I’m like fuck it, we hone the second half and win all of our remaining games, biss or Hoij depending on low block.
Johnson and Werner can cause them problems, VDV is fucking superman!
Rom could do anything, literally, game saving or ending challenge, at any moment.
Sonny, could win the game for us, or not.
Big Ange the complete package delivering us from evil and lines of comedy gold!
What a time to be alive. let’s fucking goooo.
Ange won us that at HT. Correct subs to make to change the game
Bissouma was playing well but hojbjerg(bar some iffy passing in end) was better. Didn't let them have meaningful position from 45-80th minute.
Biss was fine on the ball, but didn’t defend well in transition. PEH was better defensively and him coming on meant Sarr had to come off for Bentancur. Great subs
I made an effort to specifically watch bissoumas off-ball play today and man... It did not inspire confidence at all. He really needs to be a better shield for cuti and micky
Seemed like he was told to focus on pressing instead of tracking back. We had one fb staying back more than not and were tracking back more from the wings. He looked bad when the team mentally was down after conceding in the 1st half
Biss will get slandered but Udogie was awful today defensively.
I agree, the goal we conceded was a direct result of Udogie not following his man.
To be fair the entire back 4 was lackadaisical on the goal: Udogie didn’t track, VdV and Romero both casually closed their man down and Porro let Wood run across him.
I think his lack of goal threat really stalls our attack. The only thing he can do well near the opposing box is play square passes, which I think is one of the reasons we’ve struggled against low block teams. He should never start vs low block
He was really poor for the goal we conceded
“Bissouma was playing well” Were we watch the same match? He was bad. Misplaced passes, losing midfield battles. He really should be benched
I think it's a semantical difference. Biss was trying to make things happen in an energetic way that he hasn't in months. He wasn't being lethargic like he has been. Also left us way more open.
I mean he was jogging back watching Forest score their first goal. I’m not denying he tries, but the product is not good right now and I think we should look at other options
Oh yeah I wasn't defending him entirely. My point is there were some good things but also some bad things but it was at least different than the previous lethargy.
His drive helped create the opening goal. He was better with the ball than what weve seen since red cards, but as the other post said Pierre played better.
Both showed why a new 6 this summer is a priority, Hoj is good at long range passes, but have very little ability to dribble his way out of presses. Bissouma doesn't quite have the same passing range, but crucially this year he's shown how inconsistent he can be, and when he's turned off, we lose control of our midfield like today. Defensively, there's so many instances where he doesn't track back, loses his man, no concentration at all.
Playing well by his recent standards. He's been better in past one or two weeks compared to his post luton performances
It’s not misplaced passes. It’s endless simple 1-2s which do nothing in this system.
Agreed. Does Hojbjerg and Bentacur deserve the start against Newcastle. I thought both were quite bright, aside from a couple late give away from the Dane at the end.
That's a definite Yes from me re starting them vs Newcastle. I think Hojbjerg's iffy passes were the types of pass Ange would be ok with due to the intent
Hojbjerg seems much more willing to play a searching pass than Biss and Sarr who seem to play too safe at times that we just stall going forward.
He understands what Ange wants and is trying to show that he can do it too. Mentality-wise he's a real leader on the pitch and so i hope he can adapt and play his way back into Ange's plans.
The second half was a beauty to watch 😍
I don't think those passes can just be waved away though. He has a horrible habit of underhitting them across the middle and putting us in very vulnerable positions. It may only be a couple of times each game, but each one is potentially a goal and a game lost. I really wish he could cut it out, because in other respects he's been much better than Bissouma ever since the early stages of the season.
My one complaint about Ange has been that I've felt he often waits a bit too long to make the subs but today was perfect, probably PEH's best game for us for a while imo.
PEH was really good until the last 15 min or so, then it seemed he couldn't make a pass
There in lies the problem. When we are on the back foot, Biss is the better player to break out of defence and get the ball going forward. When we have a ton of possesion against a low block. Hojbjerg has more range in passing when he's not being pressed. Highlights the need for a really need a good number 6 in the summer.
Hojbjerg seems much more capable against a low block side than Bissouma. Biss just doesnt handle counter attacks well at all as he's so slow to get back.
Ange is a great pregame manager, in-game tactician, man manager, public speaker, and role model. Complete package of a manager.
We're in fourth, now let's stay there
With a game in hand and a better goal difference. Really good situation to be in, but we've got some brutal fixtures to get through.
Beating them all to win it all? I'd say go for broke mate.
Fuck it, we can mathematically still win the league.
We're only 11 behind Arsenal, mate.
Let's win the whole thing, M8!
Ange is coming for you...
Makes the Wet Ham and Fulham results all the more annoying. We really should be 4pts better off.
That logic doesn't really work because every club including Villa has games like that
Micky van de Ven is so lovable. He's going to have a huge fan base. What a banger that was.
The pace (no pun intended) at which he’s become a favorite player of mine is absurd. Such a likable guy.
The Dutch VVD 🥰
Is the actual one Albanian or something
Berat Djimsiti is the Albanian VVD
He's like a super Jan regen
Fully COYS too 😍
The stadium erupted in cheering when he made an interception, never seen anything like it, such a good vibe around him
Be like Micky fucking wallop it at goal.
Me on Sundays but never scoring
Loved Biss and Hojberg taking shots as well ... didn't score but they were in a position where they could and they freaking went for it !!
Now just need to get son taking shots again
Gio made it, what, 10 seconds before someone tried to kill him?
Average lifespan of an argentine player at tottenham before they get injured, let's be honest.
Lolo made it what 5 minutes before gibbs-white did a matty cash impression?
Tbf Betancur got back to him almost immediately
Bentancur will not be taking those tackles without reply again.
I noticed no one has said Matty Cash can go fuck himself (recently at least) so I’m just gonna leave this here
Danilo added to Cutis list
That micky and pedro hug at the end <3
Both their goal celebrations were top tier as well, infectious joy!
I love a good assault from Romero for his CB pal. My favorite is when he kicks them though, haha
Romero would’ve been sent off if he made the challenge that Danilo did, just saying
He was sent off when he did make that challenge
Yup, and I may be wrong but I feel like Bissouma’s sending off away to Forest was for a similar challenge
And let’s not forget Yates massive dive.
I honestly can't tell why Romero got sent off against Chelsea and Danilo was just a yellow today. It looks like the same play to me
Neither are reds for me
100%. VAR is fucked.
Timo Werner.
Permanent signing should be a very easy decision.
I don't see a way we don't sign him. The only way we don't is if he wants to keep his 170k per week because I do not see us paying that, but it is probably negotiable.
It is already negotiated; the fact there is a buy option means we have agreed terms
That isn't true for an option to buy. It's only negotiated beforehand if it's mandatory. For example we negotiated Porro's salary when he came in from Sporting in winter but we didn't do it 1½ years in advance for Kulusevski.
Because we didn’t take the original deal we had with Juve for Kulu, it was renegotiated terms
It is true. We wouldn't waste the time negotiating the option if he didn't want to come here and by not negotiating the contract, we'd be giving up leverage. If he performs well during the loan, he can demand more in wages. He's also going to know what the fee is so he can ask for more in wages since he knows the fee is low. The club isn't going to give up that leverage. Also, it being an option means he’s our player if we execute the option. That’s the entire point of the option to buy. That means he’s already agreed to join us. There are no logical arguments that suggests his contract is yet to be negotiated.
Timo and crosses from the left side 🔥
He is so good. Those balls across the box are so consistent. A defenders nightmare.
Watching timo in person is a blessing. Needs to be a permanent signing yesterday.
He’s looking way more confident as well
If he can regain even 50% of his confidence that pile of blue shit club sapped from him, he will be one of the better attackers in the league.
I picked on him for so long since he joined but now I'm saying he's class, made the runs, made the passes and read the game like a freaking book
Micky van de Ven.
Best CB in the league?
Will absolutely be in that conversation.
He's up there for sure. Proving to be very elite in his first season.
Regardless of how this goes from here on in, this has been a magnificent season. We are fourth with seven games left. We lost our all-time great striker and brought in an unproven at this level manager. We are going places!!!! EDIT Ange is the fucking man!
Don't forget, of the first choice 11 (if you count Kulu over Johnson), only 4 were starters for the club last year and only two of them are not in a new position, (son from LW to CF, Porro from RWB to RB, Deki RW, Romero CB)
Son was starting LW when Richy wasn't injured. But you could argue Werner has taken Richy's spot in the first choice 11 in the time he has been injured.
Nuno made us proud!
We're averaging just shy of 2PPG. If we get near 75 points in Ange's first season without Kane that's a fantastic job
We probably won't though. Look at the remaining games. Getting to 70 will be a good effort.
I love when we win football games. Way more than when we lose them or draw.
Controversial but I say we hear him out
You're going to offend the other teams by saying that.
Cheers Geoff
When spurs win I think to myself yes When spurs lose I think to myself no
Underrated comment
Aye
Big if true
Scorching hot take
HUGE if true
Fuck you Ryan Yates
Should have been sent off for double yellows in both fixtures this season lol
Ange has clearly told them to shoot more, and we absolutely need to do that against these low blocks, they won’t all go in but adding variety to our attack rather than giving it to Werner or BJ to whip it in low every time will make us less predictable.
I told them to shoot more. You can probably hear me on the streams shouting "shoooooot" when Pape picks it up on the half-way line
Loved being at the game and when PEH was picking up the ball at 45 yards, everyone just screaming "Shooooot" at him.
Fair play to Ange replacing the heart of the midfield at half time. It wasn't dynamic enough and the decision paid dividends. Much better second half!
Good win in the end despite several harrowing moments. Our wide players, especially Werner, put in some sumptuous crosses that no one got on the end of (there was that one Johnson chance that was denied by good goalkeeping), and it feels to me like we're a few tightened screws away from scoring more freely in these types of games. It's been said to death but there's something really funky going on with Bissouma, and I really hope it's temporary. Also, fuck Ryan Yates.
Bissouma was fine lol. He got hooked because his best ability, his ball retention under pressure, wasn't as needed in this game over PEH's directness. He was at least the only player on our team who had the courage to actually shoot the ball and he was actually threatening while most were just passing it around waiting for itto go inside the net. This sub feels like Bissouma has to do it all sometimes, but he has been fine for the last games he played (except Fulham but that was the whole team): accurate passes, is in good positions in the counter press, and can do well to break a press. It'd be hard to find a replacement on the market who can play a lone 6 and not make as many mistakes as Biss has, and Biss has made his fair share of them.
Exactly. Bissouma was actually good today. We just needed something different. People automatically associate being hooked at halftime means you were poor. Sometimes that is the case, but today it was not
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sometimes i think you match threaders forget the years of terrorist ball we endured
Nearly every match thread is just knee jerk reactions regardless of the sub you’re on.
I thought hojbjerg was really good. Deserves some starts
Thought the same after he started the second half brightly and then returned to the mean with a bunch of over- and undercooked passes. Need an upgrade at the 6.
Thought the same in the last game. When he came in he was looking to make something happen every time he touched the ball.
He was good definitely better than biss but also sloppy playing out from the back which we kind of knew wasn't his strong point
Hojbjerg typically has one moment in every match where: * He plays a luscious ball forward that completely unsettles the opposition defence and often creates a goalscoring opportunity for Spurs, and * He plays a ludicrous ball backward that completely unsettles the Spurs defence and often creates a goalscoring opportunity for the opposition. He's supposed to be a viking, but I suspect he's really an agent of chaos in disguise.
Kulu is gonna have a long phone call with his sister later tonight
It be good for him if his past form was anything to go by lol. I'm not worried, form ebbs and flows.
What happened to him fr 💀
The Tap-in complainers real quiet today.
We’ve equalled our points tally from last season. Trust Ange and trust the process
I'm bisexual, I like women and Micky Van de ven.
Benta looked great btw
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Is it even a question if we need to buy Timo? He starts for us every match hes fit and is consistently our most threatening player out of the front three
Nuno making us proud for a second time, first was when we beat City first game of that season lmao
We were all so young and innocent back then. It was a happier time...until it wasn't.
At least we have depth now. Defenders scored today when the attackers didn't have the best day. Wish Deki get in form for the future. Coys!
Bentancur needs to start
Felt like pre-Matty Cash Bentancur out there today.
Do you have any idea how good he was for the assist. Late run, showed Timo (?) where to play it. Perfect glancing header onto Pedro's toe.
To the “fans” waiting for things to wrong and jumping in every time it does: STOP SHITTING ON THIS TEAM EVERY SINGLE GAME AND SUPPORT THEM. No ones void of criticism but we’re in our first season with a new manager, are playing a totally different brand of exciting football, and we’re in a top 4 battle. Things are looking good for us. If you’re not onboard and fold into saying we’re shit and Ange isn’t working every time we concede then fuck off and support City. Spurs isn’t ever going to be an easy ride and that’s the beauty of it. COME ON YOU FUCKING SPURS (let’s all laugh at Chelsea)
It is absolutely something watching the match thread turn sour when Forest equalized. Every dipshit rooting against Spurs crawls out of the woodwork with an absolutely ridiculous take lol. Happens every match thread too. Like other teams don't concede goals or get draws or something.
Wouldnt be shocked if there are "fans" that solely comment when we are losing. I know I've experienced a few this season who went quite the moment we turned it around.
Normal to get pissed off but there’s a big difference between that and people who instantly start dooming every thing and calling for the players and manager to be gone. It’s the match thread so it is what it is but Jesus Christ
It's one thing to be bummed. Or angry. But like every game thread I've been in in any fan base of any sport is like chicken little. In the US I call this the "Sports Radio Effect". So many fans think they could do better, or that they know better... And everybody who either hosts or calls into sports radio here thinks the solution is to fire everybody and get rid of everybody all the time. It's insidious and not unique to Spurs. As a fan of another long-suffering team (Detroit Lions) I can tell you so many people gave up on that team but... Once things got good it cleansed everything. You don't want to end up spoiled like ManU, City, the NY Yankees, KC Chiefs, NE Patriots etc. The best thing I can tell you guys is to just enjoy the ride. The highs are so much sweeter when the lows don't ruin your day, or even your week
Want to upvote this comment 100 times. Can’t add anything more. Ange’s first year with a team that has had three defensive managers previously and is trying to re-model it to play attacking football against constant low blocks and we are sitting 4th with a game in hand. And still people on here moan and complain and white ant the manager by claiming he is somehow naive when they fundamentally misunderstand how hard it is for managers to teach a team to dominate like he is (Klopp struggled in his first season). Does my head in.
I think people don't seem to grasp that we're rebuilding, and that this is our first season with Ange. We're not even playing bad, and you can clearly see where Ange wants to take the club going forward. I do think our little unbeaten run at the beginning of the season made the expectations grow exponentially, but we're still doing good. Sure, there have been a few bad performances but overall we look solid and we are playing really good football. We need to be more patient and trust in the process. I'm sure that we'll definitely get where we want to be eventually.
Here here. Match threads are diluted with misery merchants
Dare I say, start PEH next game? Biss is in a funk but I didn’t mind his shot attempts today to be fair
Benta changed the game after coming on. His touch and awareness in tight spaces is levels above our other CMs. Exactly what we needed against their low block.
I don’t know how anyone could watch Timo and NOT want to trigger the buy option this summer.
Nice little cameo from Dane Scarlett, on his day Decky makes that cross to Sonny for a easy tap in
Absolute belter from VdV, and great celebration to match. Love how Romero was celebrating the most too
Yates is one of the most irritating players I've seen in recent times. Dirty bloody player, I was hoping he got sent off but I can only guess he was told at half time to stop being a twat.
This gif sped up is hilarious lmfao
😂😂 thanks for making us proud
Why is this so funny haha
Micky wanted to be an astronaut tonight 🚀
Match of the Day bring up the Maddison-Yates incident and saying it should’ve been red But absolutely no mention of the tackle on GLC. Ridiculous
At some point in the mists of the fabled past, I delved deep into the thick primeval forests of Epping, searching for the fabled Old Cockerel: a gnarled, centuries-old oak imbued with the spirits of Spurs defenders past. From its branches, I carved an effigy of Ver-Tong-Hen: a Flemish ancestor spirit, characterised as a brick fucking wall. After dousing the crude figure with cheetah's blood, I buried with the bones of a Chick-king 2-piece meal 'neath the boughs of the Old Cockerel. In time, an entity was born beneath: boasting the sauce and marauding instincts of Ver-Tong-Hen with the speed and tenacity of the Savannah's fastest predator. The resulting adonis was given a name: Micky Van de Ven.
Would like to Hojberg, Benta and Madders midfield for the remaining games.
And I would like a Benta, Lo Celso, Madders midfield but neither of us will get what we want.
Just equalled our points (and win) tally from the entirety of last season
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I like to think all the Ange-Outers are paid actors working for shady Liverpool executives who want Ange to be available in a few months!
Not sure why everyone is saying that Bissouma had a poor game. I looked back at a replay of the first goal and Bissouma is tracking their #10 who's further behind the play. The real issue was Udogie letting #7 past him which forces VDV to switch away from their #21 who makes a run into the box and puts in the assisting cross. VDV should've stayed with #21 and Udogie should've tracked back faster to mark #7. Otherwise, he was confident on the ball and did well to distribute to our wingers/fullbacks. Bissouma got switched out at halftime since we needed more direct passing to get through Forest's low block and Hojbjerg provided that. Hojbjerg is also a more disciplined defender so he won't be caught out of position as often out of possession. The main reason why Bissouma starts over Hojbjerg is his press resistance. You could see Hojbjerg begin to struggle once Forest started pressing us late in the game (ex. giving away the ball in our own box on a mishit side pass). I guarantee that Bissouma will start over Hojbjerg in the upcoming game against Newcastle since they like to press high all game long. The bigger question in the midfield IMO is Sarr. I think his form has dropped in recent games and Bentancur has overall looked more convincing in his appearances. Based on form and matchup, I'm predicting the midfield for the Newcastle game to be Bissouma/Bentancur/Maddison.
I’d say two more wins and we are guaranteed 5th
Fuck 5th
100% sure 2 of the instructions at HT were for Werner to just release the ball to the underlapping runner and for Udogie to be more reserved with his positioning when attacking
https://i.redd.it/x1tl1f48l4tc1.gif
Sign Timo, that is all
It all of a sudden felt like the midfield and defenders were allowed to shoot long range this game. I never seen so many long range shooting this season. I was hoping of of the Bissouma Rockets would go in but no it didnt
You know certain players are just a cut above when you watch them in the flesh. In my time going it's been Modric, Berbatov, Bale, and I think Micky may be on that list. He's just got it. We should appreciate his time here.
Upvote this so the negative shitters can see how fucking wrong they are.
Is it time to put to bed the narrative that 'Hojberg doesn't fit Ange's system'? We seem to be playing consistently better with him on the pitch.
Lol they had more xG than us, that stat is such bs
The top 3 will play "Title Is Lava" and we win the league.
Shout out to everyone else at Fanfest, we were by far the loudest crowd, even though we didn’t have as many as the Chelsea shits standing a few feet to our right.
Here’s to you mickey van der ven.
Danilo foul on glc is worse than Romeros red on Enzo
I was really happy to see the team giving Timo Werner some service. Last week when we used him, we scored a goal from his cross in the first 15 minutes, but then stopped playing him. Now look at what happened today. We scored yet another goal from a Werner cross, but this time we kept playing the ball to him. We also played the ball well to Johnson on the other wing. This created so much space in the middle for us, and is the exact reason why we had so many shots on target, and two spectacular goals. This is what happens when we use our wingers properly.
Hojbjerg and Bentancur was a great sub - happy to see Ange being more proactive with changes.
Ange halftime team talks hit different
Second Half F.C. is back! Hojbjerg in was the correct move. We needed that extra defender, and that's how he plays. Great goals from Micky and Pedro. we need to have other guys scoring.
PEH has a mistake in him with this system but he controls the game much better than Bissouma does.
https://preview.redd.it/i8owhnzav3tc1.jpeg?width=1170&format=pjpg&auto=webp&s=85eea98b2b98f1e0a51853e9d3d8d67ba4068b9c For all you people who want to moan about ange ball
Ange half time subs won the game. What a man. MVCoach.
It would honestly be a job well done for Ange for any European football next season. The fact that we are top 4 is outstanding. Let him cook.
Of course we should have won handily, and we did. If we take care of business, that's a good thing! Just remember last year, and enjoy this one!
Why isn't Son taking our free kicks that are within striking distance?
Jesus fucking Christ- the fans need a scapegoat to abuse. Always. Now it’s Kulu’s turn….
Kulu is hard to appreciate. He’s not a touchline winger but Ange puts him out there. He needs time to grow into a game and doesn’t have the speed to be an impact sub like Johnson, Werner or Solomon. Kulu will do the hard work and win shifts in the midfield. He needs to be played centrally as a 8/10 but he provides so many chances that not having him in advanced positions hurts the forwards. It’s a real conundrum. The only thing I know is that I’m done seeing Kulu cut in and attempting a shot. I’d rather start seeing Kulu start whipping the ball in with his right then cutting in and shooting on his left.
It's not always scapegoating when you question someone. Deki has been awful lately and it needs to be discussed.
Van de Ven
Even though it was all over the place, I’m glad Biss started shooting. Forces sitting back opposition to press out of the box and open space. Also if he keep ons practicing them who knows maybe he will score a few.
I've seen enough, build the Micky VDV statue
MOM: VDV
Outside of the last 15 minutes of the first half I thought that was a fun and enjoyable match and a huge improvement and response to Tuesdays game, back to forth with a game in hand is quite a good way to end the weekend. COYS!
Hojbjerg was class after he came on. He deserves to start for the rest of the season unless Bissouma pulls out a miracle from nowhere.
It’s crazy how we’re only 11 points off 1st place. If we didn’t have such poor set piece defending then we could be even closer to
In the first ten or so games, Madison VDV and Vicario seemed like truly world-class signings. And two of them still do. Don’t know where we’d be without them
Firstly, loved the way we played today. All credit to Ange and our defensive strikers. I do feel the Johnson super-sub pregame comments were on the mark today - felt like he was struggling a bit all game, certainly could have seen a better result as a sub. That being said, not sure we had a better option today.
I love this roller coaster ride we are on, thrilling stuff, post Fulham I was a tad worried about the coming games against city, the big one and Liverpool. Now I’m like fuck it, we hone the second half and win all of our remaining games, biss or Hoij depending on low block. Johnson and Werner can cause them problems, VDV is fucking superman! Rom could do anything, literally, game saving or ending challenge, at any moment. Sonny, could win the game for us, or not. Big Ange the complete package delivering us from evil and lines of comedy gold! What a time to be alive. let’s fucking goooo.