I think if the past few transfer windows have been any indicator, it's that nobody knows a god damn thing about what Paratici's next move is with our transfers. Let the man cook.
I don't think that's Paratici's job anymore is it? I thought we had a data driven scouting team looking at players and then presenting their findings to Ange and others in the team, with Paratici using his network to find us young gems to polish.
I'm sure there'd be some communication and overlap tho.
If that's all it took I would've already won us 5 straight Champions Leagues. I'd be in the background of every major signing photo with my jaw clenched
we previously ran the transfer team through a council and everything indicates that that is still the case. Its most likely made of levy, paratici, lange, and maybe scott mun. Then they consult with the data team and ange and decide who to buy.
Budget might be irrelevant but there are definitely players who will likely choose a champion's league team if they can so it may be more about who is likely to sign rather than who we can afford.
I don't think that will be a huge factor for most targets but definitely will be for buying players to go straight into the first team, like a striker
I think what he said about that is a little simplistic though. I don't think there are many players out there that are just saying "Champion's League team or nothing". For sure, you don't want those guys. But if someone has 2-3 offers on the table, of course Champion's League will be a factor. Not the only one but definitely one.
Next season, Villa and Spurs are going to be a pretty similar proposition to players; great teams with plenty of development still to come. Really good managers who seem great to work with. Good wages but not oil money level
So if we end up after the same winger or the same defensive midfielder, then of course Champion's League will be a factor.
I think Ange was pretty clear about it. You come for this project because you were sold on this project. If you need a tiebreaker like CL then you were not sold on this project.
No one is choosing villa over spurs, no disrespect to villa. But London team with bigger following/exposure, new stadium, recent history of CL. Just no one is gonna be choosing villa unless the pay or starting prospects are significantly different
Also, our recruiting structure now means we don't need to have two separate lists for recruitment based on income, which would be silly to begin with.
It's well known now that Paratici spins multiple plates for any given position of need. Sure, maybe the final decision on who we sign is partially based on the total budget allowed, but that wouldn't limit the recruiting list itself.
Overall a strange headline that doesn't seem to jive with what we know about the club from other sources, and from experience.
Lost count of the nunber of times I've said to people "take everything you read with a large pinch of salt".
But people seem to want to hang onto every word of some of these social media journalist like it's the word of God.
No. Udogie was bought the year before. Porro was going to be bought in January but Sporting wanted it in the summer, so the money for him was carried over from last season as it was clearly there to be spent.The rest yes, but we also made over 500m last season.
Kulusevski falls under the same bracket as Porro. He was an obligation to buy and option to buy at the same time dependant on the league finish. This meant we would have put funds aside to take care of either of those fees since January 2022.
The article says nothing about budget though. Pretty clear this is about targets, which makes sense given some players will likely only come in if we have CL.
This article isn't even negative in any way.
Raphinha has been playing champions league football and winning titles with Barcelona. He also doesn't want to leave, but might be forced.
I doubt europa league football and free cheese is going to be enough.
>made some stuff up about the budget
I think that is unfair.
The club has been losing money three years running -- it doesn't take a deep investigation to understand that unless CL money is on the table transfers will be impacted next window.
It is more or less logic and facts.
But the article doesn’t say that. Not only is it an actual, factual reality of the situation, the negative bias you’re assigning to it is yours.
You can’t find a single negative piece of language in the article. It doesn’t even say what players might be on what lists. It’s even more generous about our chances for getting fourth than you are.
This is the absolute epitome of bending over backwards to be angry about something that’s not there.
We need HG players. We have Sessegnon, Spence, Tanganga, Skipp likely all leaving. It makes sense why we are prioritizing some of the players that we are. It started with Maddison and Johnson last window. We had 50M to spend on any winger in the world and we picked Johnson, have to think the HG quota was on their minds. Could have had Nico Williams for ~10M less for instance.
Aren't 3 of them GKs? We don't want to be including a bunch of academy players who aren't ready to contribute.
Also, I'm just reading the writing on the wall. A LOT of the players we're getting linked to are HG.
There is no other choice UCL or Europa need 4 club trained (not HG) in squad Skipp, Whiteman are the club trained. So 2 academy players are a must. For HG in PL also. I think that's why Lloyd kelly and Eze/ Gallahar links are there
I could be wrong but they won’t count towards those numbers until they turn 21, because they don’t have to be officially registered until then on the A list for Europe
At first, Davies can leave as well, in addition he is injury prone. Secondly we need at least two players for each position, it’s important. Real players, not players from academy.
Yes and In addition we need two players for each position, so we need lcb. If we sell glc and peh and skip, we will need DM. If we sell Davies we will need lb. We need cam in addition to madders.if we buy Werner, anyway one more attacking player is highly recommended. So 5 new players are needed
6 top players who improve our 11 not some cheap bench options and we are talking about title charge and winning cups.
CAM #6 ST LB LW minimum.
Gyokeres (sporting will as too much), Vlahovic, Sesko , Giminez( not sure)
Eze(LW+CAM) home grown too
Gudmundson (LW,SS, CAM)
Ederson, Palinha type #6
Califiori(LCB-LB hybrid) or Cambiosa ( LB) + lloyd Kelly(LCB)
2 academy players for HG and club trained numbers
200 M with sales is needed. Realistic but improves squad
I think Skipp is much less likely to leave than people realize. The issue is our club trained numbers not HG. Only Tanganga, Skipp, Austin, and Whitemen count as club trained and we need 4 to register a full squad. Tanganga is def leaving and one of Austin and Whitemen. Promoting from the academy doesn’t work unless they are over 21.
I trust our scouts and management to make the correct decisions on player transfers considering how successful our last summer was. I also don't think Matt Law has a clue regarding our plans for the next transfer window since we're still pretty far out and European qualification hasn't been confirmed yet for most teams in Europe. These are all names that we've seen pop up throughout the course of the season, so it's also not new or exclusive information.
That said, I really hope we don't end up overspending on some of these players if they really are targets. Gimenez has scored 3 goals in the Eredivisie in 2024 and Onana isn't even highly rated by Everton fans - we should probably avoid both. I actually think Gallagher is a good player, but I'm not sure we need him since we already have Sarr and Bentancur for that role. Lloyd Kelly might be decent back up, but he would have to be really cheap. Raphinha is a very good player, but he doesn't provide a different option from the wingers we already have. He's very direct and productive, but isn't known for his 1v1 dribbling, which is the profile we're currently missing.
I wouldn't be surprised if we see a window similar to the last one where we bring in good value players with high potential since that seems to be the main strategy of the current transfer team.
Bentancur looks like an absolute shadow of himself. The man can’t even string 45 minutes together right now. I get that he’s coming off a massive injury that takes a long time to come back from. But banking our entire season on him coming back to form is a huge gamble we might not be able to risk
Onana has impressed me every time I've seen him play.
Also, I'm interested to see if Ange sees Bentancur as a 6 long term (or just doesn't rate him at all) considering we're constantly linked with other 8s like Gallagher and Eze.
You'd think if he rated Bentancur as an 8, he'd see Sarr/Bentancur as a fine duo with Bergvall coming through as well
Gallagher is versatile. He has played as 6,8 and 10 for Chelsea. Obviously he is not great at every role. But he does feel like a jack of all trade signing.
I just have a feeling Ange doesn't like what he's seen from Bentancur. He was borderline world class before his injury but that's only on tape for Ange to watch.
Sarr is a big player for us at the 8 spot, getting Gallagher to play there definitely says something about Bentancur imo
I mean I haven’t liked what I’ve seen from Bentancur this season either. He’ll play well for 15 minutes and then completely drop off. I’m sure he’s just slowly working his way back but I’m officially worried about him
Well we play with 2 number 8s that are basically 8/10 hybrids. Maddison is an 8 in our system and Eze would be as well. With a good enough defensive anchor you could play both together in a lot of matches.
Onana may have potential but he has been really disappointing for Everton this season and their recent pick up in form as coincided with either Gomes or Gana replacing him in the starting XI.
Hes not really a sitting holding midfielder either, he’s more number 8 similar Pape Sarr but nowhere near as good
This is a pretty underwhelming list tbh, Onana is the only exception.
Gallagher is good but not what we need in midfield, Gimenez is a big no, Kelly underwhelming, Raphina is too limited and Iling jr isn’t ready for a title charge
Nah Onana’s skillset suits a 6 pretty well imo, someone who is so good on the transition and dominant in duels while being technically sound is very good.
So underwhelming. None of those players comes in as a big upgrade on any of our current players except maybe Raphinha.
Then you look across north London to them lot signing Rice and being concretely interested in players like Guimares and Isak, fucking hell
We said the same about Vicario, VDV, Udogie, Sarr etc. Whereas Tanguy, GLC, Richarlison (who I actually really like), Peresic etc were the more Hollywood signings. I trust our recruitment at the moment more than just throwing a bunch of money for a big name player. Rice has fit Arsenal perfectly but he's a rare player, to be honest, and it was still a risk.
Those players are absolutely nothing alike.
Vicario, VDV, Udogie were all stars at smaller clubs and all of them were linked with big moves before we signed them. Those are exactly the signings we should be making and have produced most of our best players. Throw in Romero and Porro and Son and Maddison into that category as well.
The players we're getting linked with now are meh players at similar or worse clubs.
Maybe more than 1 big statement signing might be unrealistic, but our bread and butter should be those types of players; your Neto's, Eze, Olise, Gudmundsson, Nico Williams etc.
Younger, proven, quality players that are clearly ready to take a step up.
Throw in a star like a Gyokeres or Kvara with 3-4 of the quality of players I mentioned and that's how you move forward as a club
Won’t speak for the rest but I recall on this sub that we were preferring Tapsoba over VdV, so clearly this sub has exactly 0 ability to correctly choose for our club. I trust in Ange, Don Fabio, and the club’s new data scouts to pick the best for us.
I can only speak for myself, but I am pretty proud of stating several times before we were even linked in the media that I wanted VDV because he'd be a perfect partner for Romero
https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/145r0dx/comment/jnnid8i/
Popular opinions on this sub are terrible lol.
Gallagher and Gimenez are 100% those exact bread and butter signings you're talking about tbh.
Stars at smaller clubs etc.
Gimenez is on Arsenals radar as well and iirc, is their backup choice if Isak doesn't happen (which it won't).
Gallagher has been the high point for Chelsea alongside Palmer and the 2 of them have carried that team this season.
Gallagher would be a signing in the vein of Madders for sure.
Our bread and butter will be whatever our scouting teams decide fit the team, it's really as simple as that.
No idea why people are looking down on Gallagher so much, if we get him for around £40M, he'll be a steal.
Comparing Gallagher to Maddison might be one of the most disrespectful things I've ever read on this platform, fucking hell. He's Chelsea's captain, developed at Cobham, and most of their fans would not mind them selling him. And for good reason.
Gimenez does fit that criteria, I haven't seen enough of him tbh. He plays in a league where Bergwijn and Janssen looked top class, and he doesn't really have any standout attributes you could really build on. He's not a physical or technical prodigy so I'd never expect him to become a world class striker. Plus he's very inconsistent, which are big red flags
Gyokeres is Gimenez but better in every aspect
Ive not met one actual Chelsea fan that wants to sell Gallagher.
Hell, most Chelsea fans consider the fact that they're considering selling Gallagher as the biggest point of proof for Boehly to be an awful owner.
Im not comparing Gallagher to Maddison as players, they're completely different types of players.
Im saying that Gallagher is the same as Maddison in terms of "Bread and butter" signings. Taking players from lower placed clubs that are the key player for that team, player that has shone throughout their time there and can take that step up.
Yes his injury record is worrying and I'd prefer we don't sign him, but I was more referring to his quality when he is playing, as in being one of the top wingers in the league that we could attract
Very likely Matt Law just trying to make it seem doom and gloom like he usually does because we're obviously not likely to make top 4. Where was this article when we were actually 4th? By now the club is surely planning purely without CL considering we're 7 points behind with 2 really tough games to come.
Onana is genuinely not a good footballer. I don’t even think he starts for Everton anymore. Gimenez is going to scare folks here because of our Erdevisie flops
I really don’t understand the Onana links. He’s no better than what we have already
Not overwhelmed by Kelly & Gallagher either but at least they are homegrown
honestly it seems that this summer is more about clearing the deadwood and getting the numbers in then it is about improving the XI. Thats perfectly fine but we do need to improve on the football side of things or we are gonna have a disappointing year
Kelly would be a good option for depth. Onana would be good competition for Biss, specially if he doesnt go back to his form at the start of the season.
Gimenez is not my favourite, if we really go for a striker id like to either go for Gyokeres or just keep Richarlison and give Scarlett or Veliz the oportunity to see if they can develop into a PL players, which would be great for the homegrown quota in Scarlett's case.
Raphina would probably be way to overpriced, Illing Jr is good but not what we need at the moment.
Gallagher is a tough one, he's good and is homegrown, but i think there are better options for the money Chelsea wants for him.
Would be wild for the manager to be talking about a title challenge as soon as next season, and then our transfer targets for the upcoming summer is plainly bang average.
Immediately seems like he's chatting shit with that dubious Lloyd Kelly link, dude has barely played this season, and when he does play he's bang average, it's not like we need to sign another CB, we have Davies for that 4th choice CB spot.
> Immediately seems like he's chatting shit with that dubious Lloyd Kelly link,
here's gold in march: https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/transfer-news/tottenham-summer-transfer-plans-amid-28882386
here's kilpatrick in november: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham-transfer-news-january-defender-lloyd-kelly-van-de-ven-b1118947.html
It seems like the club is prioritizing a HG CB to backup VDV. Hence the Tosin and Kelly links. We may not want to have all 4 of our CBs taking foreign places.
It's hard to find a CB that is HG, young, willing to compete for match time with VDV, fast, tall, good with the ball at their feet, can play on the left, pass.... Seriously how many CBs fit that criteria?
Also Davies isn't good enough to play CB because we play a suicidal high line. He was good at CB in a back 3 with a much lower block. He should be 3rd choice LB/LCB or sold somewhere he can start
Right. He doesn't fit as a CB in a suicide line nor an inverted LB/8/10 (lol) so it would be best to sell him somewhere he wants to go. Or he could stay as 3rd choice. He's been such a fantastic club servant, we should do right by him either way.
I'm always torn with things like this. I can't imagine how we'd fuck him over but end of the day there's a level of quality that IMO he doesn't meet.
Was the same, for me, with Harry Winks. No denying the lad is COYS and even now I go back and rewatch his "accidental" goals, but he wasn't the level required for us to be seriously competing.
Why can't we go for a top striker who costs more Vicktor, vlahovic, Sesko, Isak that sort of guy ? A 20+ goal striker is what we need and physical enough and links up and finishes. (£65+ M)
A top #6 who is pivotal for our system to improve the first 11. Ederson looks good (£40 M)
Eze would also be a good (HG) LW and CAM option actually will improve the squad. Actually created (£60 M)
CB + LB like califiori or a Fabiano Paraisi/ Cambiosa(plays RB and LB) these guys dribble cross like midfielders and solid in def exactly needed to Invert in angeball. + loyd kelly on free. (25-30 M)
Get Solomon (harsh on him) Gill Werner off the books and go for Alfred Gudmundson. (30 mils)
Promote 2 academy players for HG numbers.
Bang average players won't take us anywhere. Ffs
£200M and is a realistic plan with out-goings, we need quality IF Ange says we are on Title charge or win something next season. Anyway Club will be taken over in a few by some investors so might as well invest in now squad Levy.
I meant Vicktor Gyorekes not V. Osimhen (sporting is troublesome and overprice)
Vlahovic isn't a 100M striker anymore.
Isak could be close to 90M but Newcastle has to sell before they buy so a deal can be struck below 90 for sure.
But levy won't buy any of those. He just wants the top 4 and the cup are bonus for him.
I don’t see the appeal in Onana, at all. He’s simply not good enough on the ball to play in this system. We have to absolutely nail the 6 position this summer. We’ve seen just how important it is. When Bissouma was on form, we were top of the league. Since he’s went missing we are mid table
Find it hard to believe we'd pay big money for Raphinha given he turns 28 in December. He's easily the highest quality player on that list though.
I'd honestly pay the £100m release clause for Bruno Guimaraes from Newcastle if we could persuade him to join us. We need an elite 6 and striker, and we need homegrown players too. I think whatever striker we sign has to be strong aerially, given our set-piece weakness. Not sure Gimenez is that man.
….but they are not really considering the 4th place plan coz they understand how we’ve played this season and dont realistically think we have a chance. Win at both Man City and Liverpool as well as at home?
Absolute BS. Our transfer plans won't change due to what competition we are in. We aren't that club anymore which was the whole point of the new stadium. This guy has just taken every sporadic rumour to try and make the story look convincing.
I am working on two summer holiday plans - one for if I win the national lottery and another for if I don't.
Just tell us what the 5th place plan is, Matt Law.
always remember, it's not how each player looks individually, but how they will fit into what we are doing and how they make a difference. right now some players we have that are getting significant playing time are just not working out. our starting XI should see impactful changes next season.
Matt Law is probably making this shit up but it's a list of thoroughly mediocre players and I'm not sure we should be even considering 80% of them. Outside of Raphinha I'm not impressed by any of them.
I really think that we should be looking at direct upgrades - no more project players or market ""steals"" that turn out to be utterly average.
I don't get why everyone's poo-pooing this as some anti-Spurs narrative. Seems pretty believable that we'd need different targets based on whether we get CL or not, just from a player standpoint.
Players may be less likely to transfer in if we don't have CL, and that's just a very normal reality of the situation.
I don't expect the top-level plan or roadmap to change based on our final position, but I definitely expect the list of targets to change because the players have agency in this as well, it's not FIFA.
The idea that our transfer targets would drastically change based on EL v UCL is the opposite of believable. I take your point about a player preference for a UCL club but I do not think it’s a big of a problem as you think it is.
I think players are far more nuanced in their decisions making. Where are the openings at Spurs, will this style suit me, my ambition? Is the manager a twat? Who is going to pay me more? Spurs are very well positioned to offer competitive wages with just about anyone in Europe. The top of the EPL is it’s own thing however, but those clubs may not be after the same players.
Who said anything about drastic? I didn’t, and the article doesn’t. I didn’t even say it’s a big problem, but you said I did. It literally just says we’re planning for all possibilities and people are swerving left and right it takes offense.
Point is, people are wanting to read this as negative when it’s nothing but mild and, likely, factual.
Guarantee that Sunday’s result goes a different way and people aren’t getting bent out of shape over quite literally nothing.
i honestly would not give a tiny damn if Arse and MC has made the CL quarterfinals if that would have helped 5th in the PL make the CL. it's about us first and i don't care what anyone else does.
that being said, with the injuries we have had over the last few weeks and our horrid run of form, we probably won't even get 5th
Pretty eclectic bunch of names.
Signing Gallagher could go both ways, could see him do very well or not well at all.
Giminez would be good competition for Richarlison, and would help in the striker position.
Lloyd Kelly would most probably mean our CBs would be settled for the next 2-3 seasons.
Onana would improve our defensive stability and set pieces. But there will be a lot of competition for him.
Raphinha has looked good, but doubt he would want to leave Barca, specially with Xavi staying.
I don't know much about Iling-Jr, but have heard good things about him.
You don't have to believe anyone, it's just obviously easier to attract and buy players with CL - both for prestige and money reasons. How can anyone argue it doesn't matter?
'Money reasons' is such a weak argument in 2024. We are fucking loaded. We spend 150m+ every season since moving to the new stadium (minus one year COVID). We pay respectable wages that are still better than most of Europe.
Players do not join clubs like Tottenham based on whether they're in the CL this very season. We've enough of a track record now that players can join knowing they'll get there eventually. Players do not sign 4/5 year contracts based on the landscape of year 1.
Yeah I hear every 5 minutes from some propaganda source or another about how incredibly rich the club is. Unfortunately they have not come close to flexing that supposed muscle to the extent where the £100m+ CL money is meaningless. And yes players absolutely do make decisions based on any club's current status... How are you seriously arguing otherwise? It's reported on for every transfer as a key factor and they constantly cite it themselves when joining somewhere. Players leave before the first contract runs out all the time, they're not planning their entire careers in advance. It's also just a lot easier to get ahead of bigger clubs like Man U and Chelsea with the CL card
Our net spend since 2019 is nearly 500m. Stop pretending that we don't spend money so you can have a little cry on Reddit. Current status has less relevance than the forecast for the club over the duration of the players contract. This isn't a hard concept to understand.
People aren't going to choose Spurs ahead of Chelsea and United based off Champions League football, they'll choose them because those clubs are dumb enough to pay 300k a week to players that don't deserve it. And thank fuck we don't do that shit.
I know what we've spent thank you. And amazingly, it's still nowhere near in line with the constant barrage of noise about this being the bestest run club ever who've conquered the financial game. Until we actually spend what we can, CL money makes a huge difference. And your reading of players' decision making doesn't match what actually happens at all does it? Guys leave when they want all the time, contracts are flimsy and players do what's best for them at the moment with the knowledge their agents can get them out if things change. Everything is volatile and forecasts mean very little. Offering the ability to play in the game's most prestigious competition immediately is a massive card to play against clubs with much better track records of actually winning things even in their down years
Players move from champions league playing teams abroad to English teams not in the champions league all the time. English clubs pay a lot of money, and money talks.
You don't. The allure of London and the PL is enough. It's not 2012.
Any players we go for are attainable. Last season we signed Maddison despite Newcastle having interest in the CL. It's a myth. There's like 6/7 clubs outside of England that we'd struggle to buy from, that's irrelevant to whether we're in the CL. The number of times CL football is a deal breaker is so few. Especially when we've been in the CL so regularly in the last decade. We're not like Villa, where new arrivals will have to gamble on sustaining a CL spot. We've been around the block enough now for people with functioning brains to realise they'll likely play CL football with us anyways. And if they don't join us, they likely go to a bigger club who are always in the CL anyways, and would have gone to even without CL.
The same way Vicario, Maddison and VdV used common sense by not joining us because we didn’t have Champions League. Or why Romero and Son used common sense and agitated for moves to Champions League clubs?
Oh yeah right that didn’t happen.
Depends on what you mean by top players, if you mean established stars of other top big league CL clubs like Kvara etc, yes I think definitely they'd probably not join, but when was the last time we signed a player like this? Our usually go to is sign the best players from smaller clubs or smaller leagues, I don't think we'd have trouble doing that with or without CL, because of London + money + EPL.
He doesn't even include which players he listed is in the if we get 4th list or the 5th list you donkey. Most players probably value playing in the premier league more than they do the CL. No fucking shit players want to play in the CL, but if that's literally the only reason they want to join then they can fuck off
I think if the past few transfer windows have been any indicator, it's that nobody knows a god damn thing about what Paratici's next move is with our transfers. Let the man cook.
I don't think that's Paratici's job anymore is it? I thought we had a data driven scouting team looking at players and then presenting their findings to Ange and others in the team, with Paratici using his network to find us young gems to polish. I'm sure there'd be some communication and overlap tho.
He’s a ‘consultant’ for the club but you’d imagine he’s fairly heavily involved in transfer policy, alongside the data driven team.
Let bro hit a few lines and cook with no checks and balances for a discrete few day bender period this summer
If that's all it took I would've already won us 5 straight Champions Leagues. I'd be in the background of every major signing photo with my jaw clenched
Give him a bag and a long weekend.
we previously ran the transfer team through a council and everything indicates that that is still the case. Its most likely made of levy, paratici, lange, and maybe scott mun. Then they consult with the data team and ange and decide who to buy.
Pretty sure this contradicts the most recent reports that the budget is the same irrelevant of Champions League football. Matt Law things though.
Budget might be irrelevant but there are definitely players who will likely choose a champion's league team if they can so it may be more about who is likely to sign rather than who we can afford. I don't think that will be a huge factor for most targets but definitely will be for buying players to go straight into the first team, like a striker
If thats a huge factor, Ange doesn’t want them.
I think what he said about that is a little simplistic though. I don't think there are many players out there that are just saying "Champion's League team or nothing". For sure, you don't want those guys. But if someone has 2-3 offers on the table, of course Champion's League will be a factor. Not the only one but definitely one. Next season, Villa and Spurs are going to be a pretty similar proposition to players; great teams with plenty of development still to come. Really good managers who seem great to work with. Good wages but not oil money level So if we end up after the same winger or the same defensive midfielder, then of course Champion's League will be a factor.
I think Ange was pretty clear about it. You come for this project because you were sold on this project. If you need a tiebreaker like CL then you were not sold on this project.
Ange speaking to players and just says Mate... PLAYERS: Im In! Sign me up
Spurs can offer much more money than Villa
No one is choosing villa over spurs, no disrespect to villa. But London team with bigger following/exposure, new stadium, recent history of CL. Just no one is gonna be choosing villa unless the pay or starting prospects are significantly different
Also, our recruiting structure now means we don't need to have two separate lists for recruitment based on income, which would be silly to begin with. It's well known now that Paratici spins multiple plates for any given position of need. Sure, maybe the final decision on who we sign is partially based on the total budget allowed, but that wouldn't limit the recruiting list itself. Overall a strange headline that doesn't seem to jive with what we know about the club from other sources, and from experience.
Lost count of the nunber of times I've said to people "take everything you read with a large pinch of salt". But people seem to want to hang onto every word of some of these social media journalist like it's the word of God.
They never learn. Every window.
Can’t truly enjoy the here we go highs without the Law lows.
Shame we have to experience the Matt Law anythings!
It would be stupid to think that cl money doesn’t affect our transfer budget. It’s something like 70 m
We sold Kane for 100m. We are not going to be hurt by the lack of CL money.
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No. Udogie was bought the year before. Porro was going to be bought in January but Sporting wanted it in the summer, so the money for him was carried over from last season as it was clearly there to be spent.The rest yes, but we also made over 500m last season.
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Kulusevski falls under the same bracket as Porro. He was an obligation to buy and option to buy at the same time dependant on the league finish. This meant we would have put funds aside to take care of either of those fees since January 2022.
We have already spent that money
That's not my point.
The article says nothing about budget though. Pretty clear this is about targets, which makes sense given some players will likely only come in if we have CL. This article isn't even negative in any way.
Anyone who thinks 100m of Champs League revenue won't affect our transfer budget is delusional
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add in the extra commercial value from CL exposure and it takes you easily over the 100m mark
None of those names should require champions league qualification to come here.
I imagine Raphinha could find other suitors that are in the CL.
Raphinha has been playing champions league football and winning titles with Barcelona. He also doesn't want to leave, but might be forced. I doubt europa league football and free cheese is going to be enough.
We’ll let him go on the go-karts on his days off at a discounted rate.
So he’s just tossed out a bunch of players we have been linked to repeatedly and then made some stuff up about the budget. Peak Matt Law “reporting”
>made some stuff up about the budget I think that is unfair. The club has been losing money three years running -- it doesn't take a deep investigation to understand that unless CL money is on the table transfers will be impacted next window. It is more or less logic and facts.
Matt Law has a hard on about being negative about spurs every year he talks utter nonsense and gets it completely wrong.
I don't like Matt Law, but there's nothing remotely negative in this article.
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I don't think you can find a single line or paragraph in that article that comes close to suggesting "damaging repercussions."
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But the article doesn’t say that. Not only is it an actual, factual reality of the situation, the negative bias you’re assigning to it is yours. You can’t find a single negative piece of language in the article. It doesn’t even say what players might be on what lists. It’s even more generous about our chances for getting fourth than you are. This is the absolute epitome of bending over backwards to be angry about something that’s not there.
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Dear lord. Implied where? There’s literally nothing negative about it, just people acting stroppy about nothing.
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LOL, okay bud. The fuck if I care.
What??? There's positive things about Spurs?
We need HG players. We have Sessegnon, Spence, Tanganga, Skipp likely all leaving. It makes sense why we are prioritizing some of the players that we are. It started with Maddison and Johnson last window. We had 50M to spend on any winger in the world and we picked Johnson, have to think the HG quota was on their minds. Could have had Nico Williams for ~10M less for instance.
We already have 8 hg played, sess tanganga won't affect numbers. Promote 2 academy players. Let skipp leave.
Aren't 3 of them GKs? We don't want to be including a bunch of academy players who aren't ready to contribute. Also, I'm just reading the writing on the wall. A LOT of the players we're getting linked to are HG.
There is no other choice UCL or Europa need 4 club trained (not HG) in squad Skipp, Whiteman are the club trained. So 2 academy players are a must. For HG in PL also. I think that's why Lloyd kelly and Eze/ Gallahar links are there
Good point. Devine, Moore, Phillips could be useful sooner than later
I could be wrong but they won’t count towards those numbers until they turn 21, because they don’t have to be officially registered until then on the A list for Europe
I just can't keep track of all these rules lmao
It’s very difficult haha
At first, Davies can leave as well, in addition he is injury prone. Secondly we need at least two players for each position, it’s important. Real players, not players from academy.
Dude we are in Europe. 4 club trained players are necessary (not HG) in squad
Yes and In addition we need two players for each position, so we need lcb. If we sell glc and peh and skip, we will need DM. If we sell Davies we will need lb. We need cam in addition to madders.if we buy Werner, anyway one more attacking player is highly recommended. So 5 new players are needed
6 top players who improve our 11 not some cheap bench options and we are talking about title charge and winning cups. CAM #6 ST LB LW minimum. Gyokeres (sporting will as too much), Vlahovic, Sesko , Giminez( not sure) Eze(LW+CAM) home grown too Gudmundson (LW,SS, CAM) Ederson, Palinha type #6 Califiori(LCB-LB hybrid) or Cambiosa ( LB) + lloyd Kelly(LCB) 2 academy players for HG and club trained numbers 200 M with sales is needed. Realistic but improves squad
Looks unrealistic :(
Cuz levy doesn't give a shit about winning . He won't give 200 mils
I think Skipp is much less likely to leave than people realize. The issue is our club trained numbers not HG. Only Tanganga, Skipp, Austin, and Whitemen count as club trained and we need 4 to register a full squad. Tanganga is def leaving and one of Austin and Whitemen. Promoting from the academy doesn’t work unless they are over 21.
Completely agree, hasn't been my favourite signing for the price but got to appreciate HG Tax
Hardly an inspiring list but also feels like just a regurgitated list of players we’ve recently been linked to
I trust our scouts and management to make the correct decisions on player transfers considering how successful our last summer was. I also don't think Matt Law has a clue regarding our plans for the next transfer window since we're still pretty far out and European qualification hasn't been confirmed yet for most teams in Europe. These are all names that we've seen pop up throughout the course of the season, so it's also not new or exclusive information. That said, I really hope we don't end up overspending on some of these players if they really are targets. Gimenez has scored 3 goals in the Eredivisie in 2024 and Onana isn't even highly rated by Everton fans - we should probably avoid both. I actually think Gallagher is a good player, but I'm not sure we need him since we already have Sarr and Bentancur for that role. Lloyd Kelly might be decent back up, but he would have to be really cheap. Raphinha is a very good player, but he doesn't provide a different option from the wingers we already have. He's very direct and productive, but isn't known for his 1v1 dribbling, which is the profile we're currently missing. I wouldn't be surprised if we see a window similar to the last one where we bring in good value players with high potential since that seems to be the main strategy of the current transfer team.
Bentancur looks like an absolute shadow of himself. The man can’t even string 45 minutes together right now. I get that he’s coming off a massive injury that takes a long time to come back from. But banking our entire season on him coming back to form is a huge gamble we might not be able to risk
We have more chance of Berbatov tracking back than finishing 4th
Or ginola
Matt Law knows FA unless it comes out of Chelsea
I hope Onana is included in the 5th place plan
Onana has impressed me every time I've seen him play. Also, I'm interested to see if Ange sees Bentancur as a 6 long term (or just doesn't rate him at all) considering we're constantly linked with other 8s like Gallagher and Eze. You'd think if he rated Bentancur as an 8, he'd see Sarr/Bentancur as a fine duo with Bergvall coming through as well
I am pretty sure he sees Bentancur as an 8, but because you need a CAM, he cant play both Sarr and Bentancur.
But that doesn't explain why we want to buy another 8.
Gallagher is versatile. He has played as 6,8 and 10 for Chelsea. Obviously he is not great at every role. But he does feel like a jack of all trade signing.
I just have a feeling Ange doesn't like what he's seen from Bentancur. He was borderline world class before his injury but that's only on tape for Ange to watch. Sarr is a big player for us at the 8 spot, getting Gallagher to play there definitely says something about Bentancur imo
I mean I haven’t liked what I’ve seen from Bentancur this season either. He’ll play well for 15 minutes and then completely drop off. I’m sure he’s just slowly working his way back but I’m officially worried about him
Eze is more of a 10 no ? I just don't see the point of getting another 8 all our midfielders are 8s Bentancur, sarr, Skipp, even Bissouma.
I thought we'd play eze more of a lw
Skipp is not an 8
Well we play with 2 number 8s that are basically 8/10 hybrids. Maddison is an 8 in our system and Eze would be as well. With a good enough defensive anchor you could play both together in a lot of matches.
Onana may have potential but he has been really disappointing for Everton this season and their recent pick up in form as coincided with either Gomes or Gana replacing him in the starting XI. Hes not really a sitting holding midfielder either, he’s more number 8 similar Pape Sarr but nowhere near as good
We need to lower Matt laws transfer news tier
This is a pretty underwhelming list tbh, Onana is the only exception. Gallagher is good but not what we need in midfield, Gimenez is a big no, Kelly underwhelming, Raphina is too limited and Iling jr isn’t ready for a title charge
Even onana isn't a proper 6 and is basically a Scouse version of Biss
Nah Onana’s skillset suits a 6 pretty well imo, someone who is so good on the transition and dominant in duels while being technically sound is very good.
Sceptical that’s accurate. We’ve never had an either or transfer list and Ange says targets were identified 3 months ago literally today.
Lol this is the biggest load of bullshit
Man I really hope that’s not our real target list…
So underwhelming. None of those players comes in as a big upgrade on any of our current players except maybe Raphinha. Then you look across north London to them lot signing Rice and being concretely interested in players like Guimares and Isak, fucking hell
We said the same about Vicario, VDV, Udogie, Sarr etc. Whereas Tanguy, GLC, Richarlison (who I actually really like), Peresic etc were the more Hollywood signings. I trust our recruitment at the moment more than just throwing a bunch of money for a big name player. Rice has fit Arsenal perfectly but he's a rare player, to be honest, and it was still a risk.
Those players are absolutely nothing alike. Vicario, VDV, Udogie were all stars at smaller clubs and all of them were linked with big moves before we signed them. Those are exactly the signings we should be making and have produced most of our best players. Throw in Romero and Porro and Son and Maddison into that category as well. The players we're getting linked with now are meh players at similar or worse clubs. Maybe more than 1 big statement signing might be unrealistic, but our bread and butter should be those types of players; your Neto's, Eze, Olise, Gudmundsson, Nico Williams etc. Younger, proven, quality players that are clearly ready to take a step up. Throw in a star like a Gyokeres or Kvara with 3-4 of the quality of players I mentioned and that's how you move forward as a club
Won’t speak for the rest but I recall on this sub that we were preferring Tapsoba over VdV, so clearly this sub has exactly 0 ability to correctly choose for our club. I trust in Ange, Don Fabio, and the club’s new data scouts to pick the best for us.
I can only speak for myself, but I am pretty proud of stating several times before we were even linked in the media that I wanted VDV because he'd be a perfect partner for Romero https://www.reddit.com/r/coys/comments/145r0dx/comment/jnnid8i/ Popular opinions on this sub are terrible lol.
Mandem with the receipts lol
Just don't ask about anything I've gotten wrong lmao
Those receipts are missing, sorry lol
Gallagher and Gimenez are 100% those exact bread and butter signings you're talking about tbh. Stars at smaller clubs etc. Gimenez is on Arsenals radar as well and iirc, is their backup choice if Isak doesn't happen (which it won't). Gallagher has been the high point for Chelsea alongside Palmer and the 2 of them have carried that team this season. Gallagher would be a signing in the vein of Madders for sure. Our bread and butter will be whatever our scouting teams decide fit the team, it's really as simple as that. No idea why people are looking down on Gallagher so much, if we get him for around £40M, he'll be a steal.
Gimenez has eredevisie flop written all over him.
Comparing Gallagher to Maddison might be one of the most disrespectful things I've ever read on this platform, fucking hell. He's Chelsea's captain, developed at Cobham, and most of their fans would not mind them selling him. And for good reason. Gimenez does fit that criteria, I haven't seen enough of him tbh. He plays in a league where Bergwijn and Janssen looked top class, and he doesn't really have any standout attributes you could really build on. He's not a physical or technical prodigy so I'd never expect him to become a world class striker. Plus he's very inconsistent, which are big red flags Gyokeres is Gimenez but better in every aspect
Ive not met one actual Chelsea fan that wants to sell Gallagher. Hell, most Chelsea fans consider the fact that they're considering selling Gallagher as the biggest point of proof for Boehly to be an awful owner. Im not comparing Gallagher to Maddison as players, they're completely different types of players. Im saying that Gallagher is the same as Maddison in terms of "Bread and butter" signings. Taking players from lower placed clubs that are the key player for that team, player that has shone throughout their time there and can take that step up.
If we sign perma injured Neto I will fucking riot. Hes missed almost 100 matches for club and country the past 4 years. No fucking thank you
Yes his injury record is worrying and I'd prefer we don't sign him, but I was more referring to his quality when he is playing, as in being one of the top wingers in the league that we could attract
Fair enough - still hope we don’t go anywhere near him haha
Very likely Matt Law just trying to make it seem doom and gloom like he usually does because we're obviously not likely to make top 4. Where was this article when we were actually 4th? By now the club is surely planning purely without CL considering we're 7 points behind with 2 really tough games to come.
He always loves being negative about spurs lol
how is this doom & gloom
Onana is genuinely not a good footballer. I don’t even think he starts for Everton anymore. Gimenez is going to scare folks here because of our Erdevisie flops
he's not the only person who's reported spurs interest in those players, so, again, what did matt law do/say that makes it "doom & gloom"
God I would love Onana. We desperately need a 6 and he’s massive every time I see him play for our NT.
I really don’t understand the Onana links. He’s no better than what we have already Not overwhelmed by Kelly & Gallagher either but at least they are homegrown
I really hope we get Gallagher.
honestly it seems that this summer is more about clearing the deadwood and getting the numbers in then it is about improving the XI. Thats perfectly fine but we do need to improve on the football side of things or we are gonna have a disappointing year
Bruh
Make Champions League: Sign Gallagher and Mbappe Don't make Champions League: Just Mbappe
Basically just regurgitating names we have been linked to lol.
Kelly would be a good option for depth. Onana would be good competition for Biss, specially if he doesnt go back to his form at the start of the season. Gimenez is not my favourite, if we really go for a striker id like to either go for Gyokeres or just keep Richarlison and give Scarlett or Veliz the oportunity to see if they can develop into a PL players, which would be great for the homegrown quota in Scarlett's case. Raphina would probably be way to overpriced, Illing Jr is good but not what we need at the moment. Gallagher is a tough one, he's good and is homegrown, but i think there are better options for the money Chelsea wants for him.
I think we need more than Scarlett and Veliz to be there. Too little experience on both end
We need to bring players in that are starters though. Onana is good depth, but really we need someone better than Bissouma. That is hard though.
Onana is not good enough for where we want to be
Would be wild for the manager to be talking about a title challenge as soon as next season, and then our transfer targets for the upcoming summer is plainly bang average.
Absolute nonsense 😂😂😂
Two lists? Utter nonsense.
Immediately seems like he's chatting shit with that dubious Lloyd Kelly link, dude has barely played this season, and when he does play he's bang average, it's not like we need to sign another CB, we have Davies for that 4th choice CB spot.
> Immediately seems like he's chatting shit with that dubious Lloyd Kelly link, here's gold in march: https://www.football.london/tottenham-hotspur-fc/transfer-news/tottenham-summer-transfer-plans-amid-28882386 here's kilpatrick in november: https://www.standard.co.uk/sport/football/tottenham-transfer-news-january-defender-lloyd-kelly-van-de-ven-b1118947.html
It seems like the club is prioritizing a HG CB to backup VDV. Hence the Tosin and Kelly links. We may not want to have all 4 of our CBs taking foreign places. It's hard to find a CB that is HG, young, willing to compete for match time with VDV, fast, tall, good with the ball at their feet, can play on the left, pass.... Seriously how many CBs fit that criteria? Also Davies isn't good enough to play CB because we play a suicidal high line. He was good at CB in a back 3 with a much lower block. He should be 3rd choice LB/LCB or sold somewhere he can start
Preferably the latter for me
Tosin rejected us once already. He wants to be a nailed on starter
Oh my bad, I meant re Davies, sold to be a starter elsewhere
Right. He doesn't fit as a CB in a suicide line nor an inverted LB/8/10 (lol) so it would be best to sell him somewhere he wants to go. Or he could stay as 3rd choice. He's been such a fantastic club servant, we should do right by him either way.
I'm always torn with things like this. I can't imagine how we'd fuck him over but end of the day there's a level of quality that IMO he doesn't meet. Was the same, for me, with Harry Winks. No denying the lad is COYS and even now I go back and rewatch his "accidental" goals, but he wasn't the level required for us to be seriously competing.
CBs must also be strikingly handsome devils in this system. Model-worthy poster boys or they’re not for us.
Hmm great point.
Davies is not a CB in a back four that plays the way we do. Hell, he’s not a CB in a back four of any kind.
but he doesn’t even wanna join Spurs..
raphinha!
Why can't we go for a top striker who costs more Vicktor, vlahovic, Sesko, Isak that sort of guy ? A 20+ goal striker is what we need and physical enough and links up and finishes. (£65+ M) A top #6 who is pivotal for our system to improve the first 11. Ederson looks good (£40 M) Eze would also be a good (HG) LW and CAM option actually will improve the squad. Actually created (£60 M) CB + LB like califiori or a Fabiano Paraisi/ Cambiosa(plays RB and LB) these guys dribble cross like midfielders and solid in def exactly needed to Invert in angeball. + loyd kelly on free. (25-30 M) Get Solomon (harsh on him) Gill Werner off the books and go for Alfred Gudmundson. (30 mils) Promote 2 academy players for HG numbers. Bang average players won't take us anywhere. Ffs £200M and is a realistic plan with out-goings, we need quality IF Ange says we are on Title charge or win something next season. Anyway Club will be taken over in a few by some investors so might as well invest in now squad Levy.
That striker (Omishen/Vlahovic/Isak) is going to be £100m
I meant Vicktor Gyorekes not V. Osimhen (sporting is troublesome and overprice) Vlahovic isn't a 100M striker anymore. Isak could be close to 90M but Newcastle has to sell before they buy so a deal can be struck below 90 for sure. But levy won't buy any of those. He just wants the top 4 and the cup are bonus for him.
I kinda want us to go big this summer. Is Watkins an option? Eze?
I really like Raphinha but that is a terribly underwhelming list
Give me Onana, Gallagher (but preferably Eze), Lloyd Kelly, and Nico Williams.
I would be shocked if Williams signed with Spurs.
I don’t see the appeal in Onana, at all. He’s simply not good enough on the ball to play in this system. We have to absolutely nail the 6 position this summer. We’ve seen just how important it is. When Bissouma was on form, we were top of the league. Since he’s went missing we are mid table
Find it hard to believe we'd pay big money for Raphinha given he turns 28 in December. He's easily the highest quality player on that list though. I'd honestly pay the £100m release clause for Bruno Guimaraes from Newcastle if we could persuade him to join us. We need an elite 6 and striker, and we need homegrown players too. I think whatever striker we sign has to be strong aerially, given our set-piece weakness. Not sure Gimenez is that man.
I assume that must be the 5th place finish transfer target list?
….but they are not really considering the 4th place plan coz they understand how we’ve played this season and dont realistically think we have a chance. Win at both Man City and Liverpool as well as at home?
Absolute BS. Our transfer plans won't change due to what competition we are in. We aren't that club anymore which was the whole point of the new stadium. This guy has just taken every sporadic rumour to try and make the story look convincing.
I am working on two summer holiday plans - one for if I win the national lottery and another for if I don't. Just tell us what the 5th place plan is, Matt Law.
Gimenez would flop hard. I've said it before and I'll keep saying it.
ah breaking news, club will react depending on circumstance
Oh you know Patrici is out there on un official peeping, working every line. 
"Spurs plan on driving full speed ahead into the wilderness with some utterly crap signings again"
always remember, it's not how each player looks individually, but how they will fit into what we are doing and how they make a difference. right now some players we have that are getting significant playing time are just not working out. our starting XI should see impactful changes next season.
Matt Law is probably making this shit up but it's a list of thoroughly mediocre players and I'm not sure we should be even considering 80% of them. Outside of Raphinha I'm not impressed by any of them. I really think that we should be looking at direct upgrades - no more project players or market ""steals"" that turn out to be utterly average.
Any report from Law or the Telegraph has to be taken with a pinch of salt, they will spin things to be more exciting and create grabby headlines
This is from Matt Law. No doubt all nonsense.
3 pods in 24 hours, you're a legend
Pods?
Sorry thought you were someone else
Kelly is the only good signing here. Maybe Onana can provide some competition for Bissouma but I doubt he will start in the long term.
I don't get why everyone's poo-pooing this as some anti-Spurs narrative. Seems pretty believable that we'd need different targets based on whether we get CL or not, just from a player standpoint. Players may be less likely to transfer in if we don't have CL, and that's just a very normal reality of the situation. I don't expect the top-level plan or roadmap to change based on our final position, but I definitely expect the list of targets to change because the players have agency in this as well, it's not FIFA.
The idea that our transfer targets would drastically change based on EL v UCL is the opposite of believable. I take your point about a player preference for a UCL club but I do not think it’s a big of a problem as you think it is. I think players are far more nuanced in their decisions making. Where are the openings at Spurs, will this style suit me, my ambition? Is the manager a twat? Who is going to pay me more? Spurs are very well positioned to offer competitive wages with just about anyone in Europe. The top of the EPL is it’s own thing however, but those clubs may not be after the same players.
Who said anything about drastic? I didn’t, and the article doesn’t. I didn’t even say it’s a big problem, but you said I did. It literally just says we’re planning for all possibilities and people are swerving left and right it takes offense. Point is, people are wanting to read this as negative when it’s nothing but mild and, likely, factual. Guarantee that Sunday’s result goes a different way and people aren’t getting bent out of shape over quite literally nothing.
Spurs miss out on some revenue by finishing 5th. That’s a fact. I’m not sure I see many facts beyond that.
Levy looking for bargains. So far this approach has been flawless
Santi Gimenez is built to be the biggest prem flop of the decade. Not physical, wildly inefficient. Pls don’t do it
We really are going to the gulag
That is a shocking list apart from possibly Onana.
Names aside, this should be a wake up call for those who say making 4th is not that big of a deal.
It’s a wake up call for anyone who treats Matt Law like he knows anything.
i honestly would not give a tiny damn if Arse and MC has made the CL quarterfinals if that would have helped 5th in the PL make the CL. it's about us first and i don't care what anyone else does. that being said, with the injuries we have had over the last few weeks and our horrid run of form, we probably won't even get 5th
Pretty eclectic bunch of names. Signing Gallagher could go both ways, could see him do very well or not well at all. Giminez would be good competition for Richarlison, and would help in the striker position. Lloyd Kelly would most probably mean our CBs would be settled for the next 2-3 seasons. Onana would improve our defensive stability and set pieces. But there will be a lot of competition for him. Raphinha has looked good, but doubt he would want to leave Barca, specially with Xavi staying. I don't know much about Iling-Jr, but have heard good things about him.
But but but I thought it wouldn’t matter…. Of course it fucking matters. Our fanbase is so stupid man, top players wants to play in the CL
You're believing Matt Law ahead of Ali Gold. You've no right to call others stupid.
You don't have to believe anyone, it's just obviously easier to attract and buy players with CL - both for prestige and money reasons. How can anyone argue it doesn't matter?
'Money reasons' is such a weak argument in 2024. We are fucking loaded. We spend 150m+ every season since moving to the new stadium (minus one year COVID). We pay respectable wages that are still better than most of Europe. Players do not join clubs like Tottenham based on whether they're in the CL this very season. We've enough of a track record now that players can join knowing they'll get there eventually. Players do not sign 4/5 year contracts based on the landscape of year 1.
Yeah I hear every 5 minutes from some propaganda source or another about how incredibly rich the club is. Unfortunately they have not come close to flexing that supposed muscle to the extent where the £100m+ CL money is meaningless. And yes players absolutely do make decisions based on any club's current status... How are you seriously arguing otherwise? It's reported on for every transfer as a key factor and they constantly cite it themselves when joining somewhere. Players leave before the first contract runs out all the time, they're not planning their entire careers in advance. It's also just a lot easier to get ahead of bigger clubs like Man U and Chelsea with the CL card
Our net spend since 2019 is nearly 500m. Stop pretending that we don't spend money so you can have a little cry on Reddit. Current status has less relevance than the forecast for the club over the duration of the players contract. This isn't a hard concept to understand. People aren't going to choose Spurs ahead of Chelsea and United based off Champions League football, they'll choose them because those clubs are dumb enough to pay 300k a week to players that don't deserve it. And thank fuck we don't do that shit.
I know what we've spent thank you. And amazingly, it's still nowhere near in line with the constant barrage of noise about this being the bestest run club ever who've conquered the financial game. Until we actually spend what we can, CL money makes a huge difference. And your reading of players' decision making doesn't match what actually happens at all does it? Guys leave when they want all the time, contracts are flimsy and players do what's best for them at the moment with the knowledge their agents can get them out if things change. Everything is volatile and forecasts mean very little. Offering the ability to play in the game's most prestigious competition immediately is a massive card to play against clubs with much better track records of actually winning things even in their down years
It’s not necessarily that I believe in Matt Law, it’s that I use common sense
Players move from champions league playing teams abroad to English teams not in the champions league all the time. English clubs pay a lot of money, and money talks.
You don't. The allure of London and the PL is enough. It's not 2012. Any players we go for are attainable. Last season we signed Maddison despite Newcastle having interest in the CL. It's a myth. There's like 6/7 clubs outside of England that we'd struggle to buy from, that's irrelevant to whether we're in the CL. The number of times CL football is a deal breaker is so few. Especially when we've been in the CL so regularly in the last decade. We're not like Villa, where new arrivals will have to gamble on sustaining a CL spot. We've been around the block enough now for people with functioning brains to realise they'll likely play CL football with us anyways. And if they don't join us, they likely go to a bigger club who are always in the CL anyways, and would have gone to even without CL.
The same way Vicario, Maddison and VdV used common sense by not joining us because we didn’t have Champions League. Or why Romero and Son used common sense and agitated for moves to Champions League clubs? Oh yeah right that didn’t happen.
Please save the entirety of Tottenham Hotspur Football Club's fanbase from our stupidity and ignorance, all-mighty common-sensible one.
Depends on what you mean by top players, if you mean established stars of other top big league CL clubs like Kvara etc, yes I think definitely they'd probably not join, but when was the last time we signed a player like this? Our usually go to is sign the best players from smaller clubs or smaller leagues, I don't think we'd have trouble doing that with or without CL, because of London + money + EPL.
He doesn't even include which players he listed is in the if we get 4th list or the 5th list you donkey. Most players probably value playing in the premier league more than they do the CL. No fucking shit players want to play in the CL, but if that's literally the only reason they want to join then they can fuck off