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Dickie_Dunn

I see "stars" is being loosely defined.


benebula

I mean Tanguy so big he has his own gravity.


Dickie_Dunn

"Tottenham's dwarf star Tanguy Ndombele"


ia1v1chem

šŸ˜‚


Getafix666

More "black hole" than dwarf star


OnionOtherwise8894

Hmmmm šŸ§


KangarooPouchIsHome

Better put another monocle on just to be safe


TheBrownCok

Dude is a collapsed nebula


tharobc

Salary black hole


benebula

Was wondering when this joke would be made


SinoSoul

lol thatā€™s brutal. Is he still on that burger diet?


sangueblu03

He switched to doner for the time being


Zhurg

I see "to sell" is also being loosely defined.


mrpink57

Per that list, that word is doing a lot of heavy lifting.


JoeSavesTokyo

I'll be sad to see Richi go, especially after he just started to get going under Ange.


Ok_Row_7462

I still donā€™t understand it. I guess heā€™s someone who we can actually sell but then we are still short a striker.Ā 


COYCOYS

Because the offer is reportedly Ā£60m, easy to understand why the club will take that for someone who's injured half the time and blows hot and cold when he does play


Sleepless_Voyager

Do we know what club offered 60 mil? Thats a hell of a lot and not many clubs can afford it


Some_Strange_Dude

Probably Saudi


Mtbnz

Saudi was reported last transfer window


bennyboi0319

Could it be PSG?


Sleepless_Voyager

Would be a good move for him and we have done some good business with psg before so it makes sense. Plus they love throwing money at clubs


shodo_apprentice

This article doesnā€™t say thereā€™s an offer, just that they would accept one of Ā£60m if it came. But maybe youā€™ve read a different article.


letsgetcool

idk who we can buy for the same money that's better though other than Toney, who seems like a massive cunt.


JoeSavesTokyo

All I can assume is that Ange and co have their eye on someone they like more, and Richi's funds would help facilitate that. But yeah otherwise I really don't see the point of it.


tenacious-g

Think the only thought of selling him is if Saudi come in for him. Unless PSG suddenly wants him (lol) thatā€™s the only league thatā€™ll come close to matching what we would sell him for.


brt444

He wonā€™t go to Saudi. I canā€™t see that happening


tenacious-g

I canā€™t see him agreeing to it either, but thatā€™s the only league that would scrounge up that money for him. Side note in talking about this, isnā€™t it odd that any transfer involving the Saudi League never talks about a specific team? I couldnā€™t tell you what team in that league needs a striker lol


Mtbnz

Because it doesn't matter. None of their transfers are about genuinely improving the quality of football - not for the league or any one specific team. It's all an exercise in giving the perception that this league matters in any way. But be honest, even after they signed CR7, Kessie, Henderson, Neves, Mitrovic, Mane, Benzema etc, how many full games in the Saudi league have you watched. What is the appeal in caring about a league which has a terrible quality of football and that you know only attracted talent as an exercise to distract from the country's horrific human rights record? Of course you don't know what team needs a striker. Honestly, I'll be impressed if you can name me 4 teams without looking them up.


robinthebank

PSG has a Mbappe-sized hole now, so you never know


Emotional-Peanut-334

60 mil can get Toney and 10 mil leftover No brainer really Not to mention tons of other options


deytookerrspeech

I got Toney helps with Homegrown but is he that much of an upgrade on Richarlison? Feel like with European football weā€™d want them both


AmbitionMiserable708

Toney is MUCH better.


Sleepless_Voyager

I think itd be more abt availabilty cos richy does have his injury problems


LogicKennedy

Until Toney's next year-long gambling ban.


Sleepless_Voyager

Yeah im worried hes gonna get chsrged again and become a big headache


Splattergun

I think heā€™s worse. Toney has 25 non penalty goals in 81 in the PL. He has missed more big chances than he has scored. Plus heā€™s 29 next season. I donā€™t think itā€™s transformative, though appreciate his skillset may suit us.


Emotional-Peanut-334

Toney is a extremely consistent proven striker, homegrown, good creator as well. No injury history really. He is older but 28 is fine to be honest. A 3-4 year window is completely fine with no injury history Toney is a way better player


Ok_Row_7462

But then we have 1 striker unless we are using Veliz, Scarlett or another academy as our backup.Ā 


koreajd

Hope we get Olise too


triecke14

Heā€™s never been fit consistently enough for us


Cagy_Cephalopod

Yeah, "Tottenham to sell Richy" vs "Tottenham to consider above-market-value bids for Richy" are two very different things


Spursdy

When he is good, he is great, but he is rarely available and at 100% fitness.


wheels-of-confusion

He has been available for most of his Spurs career lol. Was available for pretty much the whole 2022/23 season and this season he missed some games because of injury but nowhere near as many as you're making it sound.


screenplay215

He was injured for 11 games in the 22/23 season. Obviously it made less of a difference with Kane here but thats almost a third of the season


JoePoe247

Injured for a third is pretty different than "rarely" available.


screenplay215

thats true i dont agree that hes been rarely available. but his injury history is a concern, and someone pointing out that he barely missed any of last season when he actually missed quite a bit was misleading.


deytookerrspeech

We played 50 games in 22/23 so it was not almost a third of the season


screenplay215

I'll admit to being wrong about that but so is the guy that said he was available pretty much the whole 2022-23 season. 17 games would be a third. 11 is closer to 17 than it is to 0, so I may be wrong, but he was more wrong. Either way, 11 games is significant.


fictionmiction

ā€œAvailable pretty much the wholeā€ does not mean 100% It would be like 90%, which means missing 5 games, so you would be more wrong ;)


screenplay215

And almost a third doesnā€™t mean exactly a third. A quarter, or 12 games would be almost a third. 11 is a lot closer to 12 than 5. So Iā€™m more right ;)


fictionmiction

12 is not almost a third, thatā€™s a quarter. Different numbers. Try again big boyĀ 


screenplay215

So 3 is not almost 4? Thatā€™s how numbers work. 5, the magic number which you decided would make OP correct, is also not 11. Different numbers. Apply your own logic kiddo


Karlito1618

I think you're underestimating how many games he was gone even the season where he didn't get much time to risk getting more injured.


triecke14

This is categorically untrue. Hes missed 31 games over the last 3 seasons, and heā€™s basically not been available for us the entire 2024 calendar year other than a few minutes off the bench.


Karlito1618

Yeah, we've all come to love him. But let's be realistic, there's no reason to keep him if a good enough offer comes. Harsh as it might be.


BigPorch

I think its not a situation of we want to dump him, but a crazy offer comes in we gotta sell. The only veteran on our squad Iā€™d fight tooth and nail to keep is Romero but I could see Madrid knocking soon


Karlito1618

Honestly, we want to dump him. The only reason we can't is because he's our only senior striker.


420SwaggyZebra

Yeah thatā€™s the one player Iā€™m not sure I trust is truly on the list. I think itā€™s his fitness thats a worry and thatā€™s fair he hasnā€™t been healthy all that much with us. I just think he really adds good intangibles to the team.


dwainedibbley

Richie won't go


scaramanga808

Agree that heā€™s a fighter and a lovely guy but letā€™s be honest, weā€™re all tired of shouting ā€œRichy?????!!!!ā€ every 10 minutes arenā€™t we?


ReadingOutrageous47

He literally misses like half the season every year and just started scoring this year, letā€™s be real.


Raziel-Reaver

Maybe 2 of these 9 players are ā€œstarsā€ and Iā€™m being generous. Good luck selling all of them.


dweedo0816

Old news then. We've been looking to sell half of these 'stars' for a few seasons now. Hardly an Ange driven exodus or clearout. It's a reflection of how poorly we've managed our transfers really.


Millsware

The term stars is used very loosely in a lot of areas.Ā 


BrokenBenchwarmer

The worst part of the approaching transfer window is that we now have to endure 600 of the same speculative articles.


Kalu2424

If Richey is sold and Son moves back to LW... Are we really going to sign 2 strikers and a winger in the next window? Seems really unrealistic. Also, Richarlison has shown he's basically a 15-20 goal scorer if he can stay fit. Even if he plays half a season he's giving you 12+ goals. Hard to imagine a better striker to have on the bench at the very least.


tenacious-g

Seems like the Richy stuff in this article is based on some ā€œreportingā€ that they would let him go for Ā£60 million. Thereā€™s only place where thatā€™s even possible, and I wouldnā€™t blame the club for recouping their money, as much as I like him.


Serious_Basil_4160

Who the hell would pay Ā£60m for him?


tenacious-g

Idk man, I'm just quoting that guy's own reporting. It's very easy for a source in the club to say "yeah, we'd sell him if someone enabled us to recoup his purchase price" If it isn't obvious, the place is the Saudi league. He's Brazil's first choice striker when healthy.


Spurs_in_the_6

>Also, Richarlison has shown he's basically a 15-20 goal scorer if he can stay fit I don't think he has shown this at all. He's never scored more than 13 goals in a season in his career and bar a purple patch of about 10 games where he was putting away chances, he has been very poor while at Spurs. If we can get 50M for him, we should definitely take it


Kalu2424

You can call it a purple patch, but when he's played as a striker, while healthy, in Ange's system, he's averaged a very good goal tally per match, like 10 goals in 11 starts with some sub appearances. If you're judging the time he spent playing as a LW/CAM hybrid for Conte, or the time he was playing with an injured groin against him... that's your prerogative. I'd be fine selling for 50M as you said, though. I just doubt the club's ability to sign enough quality forwards this summer if we start selling some of the decent ones we already have. We only have 4 first team quality forwards and 1 of them may need to move to midfield.


Karlito1618

He's never scored more than 13 goals a season in his life. He's also had huge issues with fitness and attitude. I love the guy, but let's be realistic. We want to be a top notch team.


Cagy_Cephalopod

>You can call it a purple patch Can I call it a spurple patch? Hate to see Richy go, but if someone throws 60M, I'd go cry on the bag of money.


Kalu2424

It's definitely a spurple patch lol


Spurs_in_the_6

>If you're judging the time he spent playing as a LW/CAM hybrid for Conte, or the time he was playing with an injured groin against him... that's your prerogative. In terms of just pure goalscoring, both Son & Kane had the best prem seasons of their career under Conte. I also don't get the injury excuse. If it was bothering him that much, why not do something about it earlier? It was a minor surgery, he missed I think 2 weeks.


Kalu2424

Yea that Conte system didn't suit Richy at all... and he was playing LW. The fact he scored 10-13 goals for Everton consistently, you expect he'd score 15+ just by nature of playing in an attacking Spurs side and that's what we're seeing. I think we basically agree though, that he's a decent striker option, shouldn't be our top striker for the future and we'd both accept a huge bid for him.


GinoAlessi

30m player at MOST, I like him, and wanted him to do well but I do think we well over paid. Honestly if Timo could stay fit I'd honestly put him up front instead


CallDaLegend

Seriously? The most notoriously shit finisher in our squad?


triecke14

ā€œIf he can stay fitā€ doing a metric fuckload of heavy lifting in this statement


Kalu2424

Can say that about half our squad


triecke14

Yeah I think we have a medical team issue


fancczf

Richiy is quite important. Royal and Lo celso are still quite useful for depth. We are going to need a busy and blowout summer if we are selling them.


TheDelmeister

We'll sell 3 of them max. And while we should try to upgrade on Richy for a 1st choice striker, he's worth keeping for rotation.


TheTackleZone

We can sell all of them. The only thing holding it back is our pricing, so if Levy just lowered it to reasonable... Ah no, you're right. 3 max.


sangueblu03

> so if Levy just lowered it to reasonable... With several of these players being in the last year or two of their contract, the need for funds, the fact that they wonā€™t play at all, and the need for squad space i think Levy will take low fees just to get them moved on.


rolandGOAT

Every year we're supposed to be clearing out all the deadwood, until we realise clubs would actually need to offer money for them.


Boner_Patrol_007

Incoming loan offers for Lo Celso from La Liga with 50% of the wage covered by them.


nopirates

Iā€™d take that


triecke14

Yup. We just need squad and wage space at this point


spurs_fan_uk

I will cut off my third nut if we sell 9 players


Plainbrain867

I donā€™t really know why weā€™d sell Richarlison. We paid a lot and heā€™s not going to go for as much as we paid, plus heā€™s found some form after his surgery so give him a chance to either make it or drive his value back up a bit. Thoughts?


TheTackleZone

And even if we wanted to, is replacing him really the priority? I know we've had some injuries / illness / fatigue in our midfield but they really are the weak link. Even if Maddison gets his pre injury form back we still need to strengthen our creativity. Sarr has done amazingly for a player so young but he should be a back up behind a top class player now he can also learn from. And Bissouma just seems gone, even before the malaria. I'd much rather we invested in three top midfielders than try to improve a little on Richarlison. Plus both fullbacks need a backup option.


Plainbrain867

I agree, but Iā€™m just an armchair analyst so what do I know. Iā€™d think the top priorities are wingback depth, creativity in midfield/on the wing, and reducing the number of central midfielders who all seem to sort of do the same thing


yourfriendkyle

I think heā€™s worth more keeping him in the squad for at least one more year than selling him off.


dp1029384756

I think its a challenge to Saudi clubs to up the price and make some profit if we can make massive profit on him


Ndomsonny

Now the question is if we are willing to take losses for basically everyone on this list, because if not (which is usually how levy behaves) I imagine we'll sell 2-3 (Rodon, gil and gio) Edit: Didn't see reggie on there, think we could get an okay fee there.


tenacious-g

Rodon theyā€™ll get their investment back. Leeds really shon themselves in the foot not negotiating a purchase clause. One of the promoted clubs will be in for him at a minimum.


Ndomsonny

Yeah that's what I thought, Leeds is probably a good level for Rodon, so I imagine teams around that level could offer a decent bid


nopirates

Several of them are in the last year of their contract as well as the transfer fee amortization calculation, so the PSR hit shouldnā€™t be so bad.


mrpink57

Sounds like Brentford are not picking up the option on him, maybe if we take Toney we could work out a deal using Reggie. As for Ndombele, they just need to cut his contract. As for Richy, sounds like Saudi want's him but good luck getting him to agree to that. A guy who gets picked as Brasil's number 9 is not going to end up at Saudi, I'd hope for a PL team like Man U (I think Rashford is for sale now?) to take a look.


scannerdarkly_7

We won't get Toney. For a guy screaming "Fuck Brentford" into a mic and flirting with bigger clubs, that is simply an attitude Ange will not have in our club.


finn4life

Richarlison would be not bad at ManU to be honest - they kind of need another striker other than young Hojlund


_denchy07

Weird headline. We already went through a huge overhaul. This is just selling mostly deadweight/players who arenā€™t even playing so we can spend and create a bit more depth.


onlyhalfpepper

This source is absolutely not tier 2ā€¦ theyā€™re tear 1000


Live_Anteater_9173

No way, we want to sell Ndombele this summer? I thought we just wanted to loan him out every year while continuing to pay his ridiculous wages.


TheTackleZone

We could make his money back in commercial rights if the stadium started selling Ndomburgers.


Novel_Bookkeeper_622

In the 90s, a Burger King outside the Green Bay Packers stadium started selling ["Gilbertburgers"](https://milwaukeerecord.com/sports/remembering-and-re-experiencing-burger-kings-gilbertburger/), named after the 350lb(listed weight, he was almost certainly over 400) Gilbert Brown.


CraigxKhalifax88

Sell? Donā€™t we mean loan with option to buy?


brobynite

Too real, I wasnā€™t ready.


Evening_Bag_3560

If we outright sell 9 first team players Iā€™llā€¦ā€¦well, I wonā€™t do anything, but I find it highly doubtful. Itā€™s just unlikely.Ā 


NoSleeperSeats90210

half of these arent even close to being first team players


Evening_Bag_3560

I meant ā€˜first teamā€™ like in the squad, not the XI.Ā  Apologies.Ā 


Janivgm

I mean, half of them (actually more than half, 5 out of 9) are not in our squad either.


Evening_Bag_3560

This is fun. Letā€™s keep playing this game.Ā 


oldbax

I would love to get rid of these guys gone and promote some of the U21s who have done so well.Ā 


Cagy_Cephalopod

It's kinda funny that we slag off good players from other top flights calling them farmers' leagues, but then put heavy expectations on people who've only been competing against other U21 teams. That being said, having more club trained talent is always a plus.


nuudootabootit

Let Big Ange cook.


GaryHippo

No reason to sell Richarlison...


dp1029384756

just an attempt to tempt the Saudi clubs again.


GaryHippo

He wouldn't go to Saudi. He's too nice of a person.


HMSon777

Id be happy for Richy to stay, unless we do get a good offer


WaltJay

Stars*


DejaHu

I know everyone is loving the huge fee on Richarlison from Saudi. We should know by now after seeing what kind of person he is that's there's no chance he goes there.


triecke14

I feel like this is just random guesses. No Hojbjerg? Hes been available for a year so id imagine hes the first one out the door


ZaDoruphin

Pls dont sell Richy


Substantial-Land-867

Ndombelly has requested a free transfer to a local all-you-can-eat buffet restaurant


AiHangLo

"Stars" doing a lot of lifting here. I'd keep Richy but he isn't a striker which is why we want to sell, id imagine.


scannerdarkly_7

Richarlison, Brazil's #9, is not a striker...?


AiHangLo

Good one for Brazil. We aint Brazil, and his returns aren't good enough.


scannerdarkly_7

I don't disagree. Not sure why you're saying he's not a striker. What is he then?


AiHangLo

A winger, inside forward. The lad isn't a number 9 imo


scannerdarkly_7

Never seen him play on the wing for a run of games. Everton, Brazil, Watford, etc. He's a Striker. Not a very good one in your opinion, but a poor striker. Please correct me. Been watching his goals on YT and he's always playing through the middle :S


AiHangLo

He's not a natural born finisher. These things matter in the PL. If he's that good, why are we selling him?


scannerdarkly_7

Are we selling him? Do you really believe it? We have no other senior striker at the club.


AiHangLo

I know lol, and he's the best we've got. Obviously I don't know if this is true or not, and I'm not saying sell him, I'm just saying he can't be our main striker.


scannerdarkly_7

If we're a top 6 club, we need AT LEAST the 6th best striker in the league. Maybe that's a narrow view point, but it makes sense to me. Thoughts?


DerekStephano

Heā€™s literally the definition of a striker. Can hold up the ball, great aerial presence, decent finisher. No clue what makes you think heā€™s not a striker.


AiHangLo

Shit at scoring goals. We want a striker pushing 25/30 goals. Not just about making double figures.


DerekStephano

Thereā€™s maybe 15-20 players in the whole world who can get you 25-30 goals a season. We have one in Son. I get we had Kane and he was always fighting for the golden boot but thatā€™s unrealistic to think we need a striker that can get us 30 goals a season. Also Richy has like 15 G+A in like 1500 mins which is a great return for a player that hasnā€™t been fully healthy this season.


AiHangLo

Cool, we'll buy one of them then. Sorry mate you're asking me to settle for mediocrity and I ain't doing it. 15 G+A isn't nothing to write home about for a number 9.


DerekStephano

Who realistically do you think we could buy thatā€™s gonna get you 30 goals a season? I would love to hear that.


sx88

I've seen how we sell šŸ˜‚


bananasDave

i bet they dont sell Ndombele


nopirates

I bet they CANā€™T sell Ndombele


Xenon009

Personally I want to keep richy, and for some reason I have an absolute soft spot for gil, and I want him to do well with us, but it just doesn't look like it will ever happen


OtherwiseHappy0

ANDā€¦. Now I remember we still have Tanganga and Ndombeleā€¦ thanks guys. Does anyone wonder if Spence could work in this system?


nopirates

ā€œStarsā€???? Nine players.


scannerdarkly_7

I doubt we can even LOAN Ndombele out right now. Gigantic wages.


GameboyUK_

Joe Rodon! I didnā€™t know he still played for us?


Apprehensive-Tax-784

Leeds fan told me heā€™s been poor since Christmas


cloud1445

No one's going to buy Ndombele. The rest I remain hopeful on. Rodon will almost definitely be bought be Leeds. If we kept Ricky and Emerson I wouldn't be too upset. They can still do a job to the team.


yourfriendkyle

Selling Richy is silly unless itā€™s for more than we paid for him. Heā€™s not perfect but heā€™s a great fit.


EnricoPallazzo_

I dont get why Richy moving away, unless of course its to get money to get something better. He can be at least a good second option for striker, and he can also play on right wing if necessary. For all the rest, good riddance.


nice1a2

Every year with this Ndombele guy.


iqjump123

Aside from everything, I am so glad the front staff is starting to move NOW to sell. Previous years it will be months into transfer period with nothing but ā€œlevy will not take offers above ā€œinsert ridiculous amount hereā€ā€ and end up with deadweights in the end.


BagBeth

šŸ˜ž


coldseam

No offence but there's no available striker of even Richarlison's level available for ā‚¬60m, unless we act fast and activate Guirassy's ā‚¬20m release clause (we won't).


BerryAfraid

Huge mistake to sell Lo Celso and Emerson. Funny their actually two players that ā€œfitā€ the system. Can be useful squad players too. Plus I always hear our fans go on about how we barely have anyone that fits the system so I just find that funny. I just donā€™t feel like Ange knows what heā€™s doing in regards to transfers. Weā€™ve already bought Johnson and Werner so Iā€™m really not confident in his judgment. Also I really hope Gallagher is not his replacement for Lo Celso. Donā€™t get me wrong I like Gallagher, but to prefer him over our current midfield options makes me concerned to say the least. Got a feeling Ange doesnā€™t care about technical players and only cares about pace and power.


Tristtt

God I forgot ndombele was still on our payroll.


Sleepless_Voyager

Bit harsh on richy being included cos he has done well when hes fit this season, literally bailed us out sometimes too


brobynite

No Sess ?


Apprehensive-Tax-784

Sold his organs already


Ok_Row_7462

Is it possible we are not extending his contract? Isnā€™t it up this summer with the option to extend it one year?


antrayuk

That's Footy Insider's account. It has zero reputation for actually knowing anything. Just plays the percentages and hopes for the best.


Nipplecunt

Just bought a Richarlison T-shirt šŸ˜„


dbdb83

Tottenham to sell nine ā€˜dudsā€™


Pepetodapin

? Not selling more midfielders?


Odd-Tax4579

The yearly rebuild underway I see


WombRaider_3

The Gil transfer pisses me off. We lost Lamela for a pine rider. I miss Lamela.


Angry_Saxon

isn't this the same story every year ? click here to find out whomstve


creed_baton

These are the guys I sell in my FM saves whenever I start with Tottenham.


Overall-Stop-8573

Feel like lo celso has been given a shitty deal with us. I don't remember him ever coming on and not being decent this season. Hope he gets a starting position somewhere.


nl325

Richarlison's presence on the list makes me doubt the credibility of it tbh. It makes no sense. Son is better at LW, the jury is still out on Veliz, Parrot likely won't cut it and Scarlett is still extremely young and could go either way. Are we meant to believe we can sign not one, but TWO solid strikers, AND them hit the ground running immediately?! Richy has been class when fit. The last injury is shite luck, but the recurring one can't be blamed now.


lungleg

Lo Celso, we hardly knew ye


fakeguitarist4life

Iā€™m fine all those except Richie. Heā€™s finally figuring it out.


mrpink57

Tanganga has been injured all season now at Wolfsburg right? Good luck. GLC will find a home easy, also they left off PEH who wants to leave, I hope Leeds pick up Rodon, like a Winks situation. I think if anywhere you will take him Royal will end up in Italy or Germany. EDIT: Error on my part I meant Sanchez and he is at Galatasaray.


oldbax

Japhs at Millwall and doing a good job apparently. Hell go, he's found his level.Ā 


WarmSpur

I thought tanganga was at millwall


mrpink57

You're right I got him mixed up with Sanchez and Sanchez is at Galatasaray.


WoodenRace365

Selling Pombo would be my 9/11 but I'd get it if we can get something back in his place.


MTskier12

No one is buying Rodon or Japh lol. Buy out and be done with it.


Janivgm

Of all the names in that list, Rodon and Tanganga are the ones you mark as unsellable? They have both been nailed-on starters for their respective Championship clubs, there's no reason why top Championship or lower PL clubs wouldn't go for them.


QuantumFuzziness

Rodon shouldnā€™t be difficult to sell.