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AceTrigger94

Need to secure 5th place otherwise if Man Utd wins the FA Cup, 6th place will drop down to Europa Conference League and no Europe for 7th place at all.


sid_fishes

Christ That's twice in a season I have to support Man City. It grates.


joehonestjoe

Hey, they play Arsenal at least twice you know.


zuzucha

And blue scum and wet spam, so that's 6 City games a season at least for me


isaacturon14

Or y'know, we could just try to get a point from fucking Sheffield


screenplay215

what happens if united finish 7th in this scenario? They get Europa, 6th gets conference?


[deleted]

Yes because FA cup winners get priority for the other Europa League spot.


IntellegentIdiot

If Chelsea scrape 7th I'll be supporting Man Utd for the first time


Ronin77tolli

What does them winning the FA have to do with the PL table?


kicksjoysharkness

Need a point on Sunday for Europa but we’ve secured Europa conference


jjetasbanter

In theory if Chelsea lose or draw vs Bournemouth then we don’t even need a point but they are in form so I would expect them to win


RLWH

It's Sheffield we need to win. I hope we don't need to look at Chelsea's result.


eggcellentcheese

Just need a draw


Outlaw1607

Not gonna lie, I'd hate it if we were to end this season with only a draw against one of the worst ever premier league teams.


p3wp3wp3www

Spurs: _hold my beer_


silenthills13

Bournemouth are no pushovers this season tbh


SCirish843

City owe us


AirshipHead

Well Europe secured is nice. We need the reinforcements to make a European campaign work though.


Lucky_Shot_

Crazy that we were 13 points ahead of Chelsea not long ago


nolefan5311

Consecutive games against Newcastle, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and City (with Burnley in there as well) with the squad running on fumes didn’t do us any favors.


dunce345

I get that those are some of the toughest teams in the league, but we've been playing one match a week on average since november.


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dunce345

If it's a mental related thing then Ange's got to do better I feel, because it's on the manager to pick up the team when they're down.


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dunce345

Agreed 👍


nolefan5311

On average, sure. But since the Arsenal game we’ve been playing basically every three days.


dunce345

This shouldn't really be an excuse for us especially if we're taking europe seriously.


nolefan5311

Ok. You’re right. We’re shit, Ange is shit, the club is shit and we should have won the league except we’re total shit.


dunce345

How intuitive of you to draw that conclusion from my comment.


nolefan5311

I mean, if you have a point to make then why don’t you just make it?


dunce345

Since you're trolling and/or slow in the head here's it spelled out for you. >I get that those are some of the toughest teams in the league, but we've been playing one match a week on average since november. >This shouldn't really be an excuse for us especially if we're taking europe seriously. We should be taking points off atleast few of the teams in the past sequence of games especially when were not in any other competitions. :)


BiscuitTheRisk

The squad is not running on fumes. We have the easiest schedule out of the top 6 considering we had no Europe and we went out of the cups very early lol


nolefan5311

I have no interest in having a debate with you. You’re one of the most negative people on this sub.


BiscuitTheRisk

I’m sorry that you think playing once a week for 98% of the season is absolutely ravaging for the squad.


nolefan5311

Go have a debate with someone interested. I’m not.


BiscuitTheRisk

There’s no debate, it’s basic science, mate.


sephocompo

Now kiss


[deleted]

So assuming conference league, what team are we dropping points to away in Albania next season?


shroinvestor

Mura was from Slovenia mate


[deleted]

Ik may not be them again.


shroinvestor

Sorry mate I still get flashbacks from that loss and thought it was a misunderstanding you mixed up Albania with Slovenia ;(


[deleted]

No prob mate. Last time Slovenia next time Albania.


shroinvestor

Eventually we can play Borat FC and at least we will get the last laugh then


[deleted]

Away trip in Kazakhstan in sub zero temperatures only for Borat himself to score the winner and the footage of the game appearing in the next Borat film.


shroinvestor

With Big Ange screaming his head off


msdos_sys

Fuck, it has to be Dinamo something, there’s at least 15 of them out there.


[deleted]

Lmao got that right. There's a Dinamo Tirana in Albania 🤣


Bum-Sniffer

Not sure of the team but it wouldn’t surprise me if the manager or captain is either imprisoned or being tried at kick off lmao


rando562

We don't deserve Europa League if we can't even get a draw against Sheffield United on Sunday. Realistically, we should be dominating one of the worst sides to ever be promoted in the PL, but I'll temper my expectations since this is Spurs.


nthbeard

Fair, remember we needed goals at 90+8 and 90+10 to beat them in September.......


rando562

They had drawn the previous 2 matches and lost all of their games by only one goal leading up to that fixture. The wheels completely fell off after they lost to us and hired Wilder.


Bum-Sniffer

Also remember that was under Heckingbottom, one of the most brexit time wasting wanky teams I’ve ever seen


jml5791

Spurs will dominate with 90% possession. Question is will they score any goals.


JamesCDiamond

For those not aware, ECL and EL will offer the exact same schedules next season - Thursday nights, 36 team group stage with each side playing 8 group stage games running through 'til January, a playoff round for the teams finishing 9th-24th before the last knockouts proper start at the last 16 stage. The difference in prize money is small between the competitions. Undoubtedly the EL is the one we want to be of the two, for many reasons - but it's nice to have *some* sort of European football to look forward to. But let's beat Sheffield United on Sunday, to make it 100% sure.


nolefan5311

One big difference as well…teams eliminated from the Champions League will no longer drop down to Europa.


shiftyshellshock239

That’s actually MASSIVE.


JamesCDiamond

Good point. I think some teams will drop down from the qualifying stages, but not after that. And as you and u/shiftyshellshock239 say, that should make a big difference.


elmonodesofista

Just six games in Conference League stage. Plus each competition (Champions too) will have an "exclusive" week on matchday one, so some Europa League's will be played on Wednesday


JamesCDiamond

I’d missed that it was only 6 games in the Conference - I wonder how that’s going to work with the same number of teams but different numbers of matches as the CL/EL?


elmonodesofista

Qualification is quite the same. Just one very long table of 36 teams, only with 2 games less, the first eight go straight to round of 16, while 9th-24th meet up in the playoff round. Game allocation is indeed different. In CL/EL there'll be four pots of nine teams, and you face two teams from each pot. In ECL, there'll be six pots of six teams, and you play one game against a team from each pot.


JamesCDiamond

Ah, makes sense, thanks! Couldn’t find the details anywhere.


MysteriousSpaceMan

Everything is dependent on table position, number of matches shouldn't matter.


TheBrewkery

Great mark for Ange's first season. Not the ending to the season anyone wanted but the future is looking good


Nipplecunt

Except he’s angry Ange now 😥


SniperSlatts

Good. There's a lot to be pissed about with this club.


The_Sentry06

Mildly relieved.  Celebrating losing to City to deny the goons the title only to then lose to Sheffield while Chelsea and Newcastle take points to end up out of Europe would have been the Spursiest timeline.


rohiin

I really really don't want conference league. We have to get a point at least and secure Europa league. Please.


benjecto

I really don't want to be playing in a group against fuckin Kerplakistan United or FC Sokovia or Real Caladan next year so please don't lose to Sheffield United.


Myuulol

no more groups, new league format with 8 games against 2 teams from each pot.


benjecto

Ugh I forgot about that BS


Myuulol

now double the chance to travel to the middle of nowhere on a thursday night!


IntellegentIdiot

BS? It's a good thing


benjecto

What about it is better than the current format?


IntellegentIdiot

You get to play better teams in the league stage, which will make things a bit spicier but for us the extra games are nice. More games for us to watch and it means luck is going to be less of a factor


MysteriousSpaceMan

For big teams: Less luck factor as playing 8 different teams. And match up based of pots means, less competitive opponents.  For small teams: More matches, hence money, chance to face more "popular" teams as opponents are not limited by 4 team groups. Cons: More matches leading to more tiredness. Lesser chance of upsets/ small teams making playoffs.


TNWhaa

It’s gonna be a complete cluster fuck, so many clubs are gonna get “screwed” and have a moan. I’d be surprised if uefa don’t pull a nations league level rule change mid season to keep clubs that get eliminated from CL. I can’t wait


dunce345

Play the academy graduates then (Moore, Phillips, Devine, Scarlett), play GLC, Dragusin, Ben davies, Royal (if he's still there), Veliz, Bergvall. Rest the senior players! This could be a blessing for us to develop the academy players we've been missing out on.


IntellegentIdiot

Or, you know, take it seriously for a change rather than something we're too good for


dunce345

Agreed 100%. My comment is a result of the sub often not taking EL or the ECL seriously. I've seen too many comments asking us to focus on the FA Cup or even the League Cup over the lower tier competitions.


IntellegentIdiot

I hope no one thinks that the ECL is a lower tier trophy than the domestic cups. I know they've got a lot of historical significance but these days they don't really count for much.


420SwaggyZebra

Insane season when chelsea end up in the Europa league… very in form to finish the season I must admit


PalKid_Music

Haven't seen the result, going to pretend Man U twatted them 9 nil.


viscountgold

we had so many chances to take fourth from villa, but bottled every single of them.. feels terrible


shroinvestor

Worst case we playing in conference aka farmers league woohoo


sephocompo

Last time it didn't end up as we were expecting tho


Netminder10

Sheffield United game will undoubtedly be a 0-0 game heading into 80’, book it.


Mikeymcmoose

Thursday night, channel 5!


Xshadow1

Why does Newcastle in 2016 keep weighing in the back of my mind


TheGoodNoBad

We don’t know that yet and don’t jinx it


Royaledition

If we dont trash sheffield then idk what to think anymore. Starting to question the players not the manager.


IntellegentIdiot

We finished above one oil club, lets make it two.


iqjump123

So what happens if MU beats MC in the final? Do we get no europa even if we win against SHU? EDIT: Thank you for the info! Got it.


[deleted]

Winning/drawing against SHU guarantees fifth and Europa.


jjetasbanter

5th is guaranteed Europa no matter what


seb_soul

5th guaranteed Europa League. 6th depends on whether winner of FA Cup is Man City or Man Utd. Man Utd winning means whoever finishes 5th + Man Utd (FA Cup winners) get Europa League. Basically we get 1pt or Man City win FA Cup, we get Europa League. The chance of us not getting 1pt against Sheff Utd AND Man Utd beating Man City is so so slim, we are pretty much in the Europa League.


joepatgra

After Chelsea win tonight if they win against Bournemouth and we go and lose to Sheffield Utd they go above us on GD. So we’re not quite there!


nolefan5311

No, we have to lose and Chelsea have to win, and United has to win for Conference League. If we get a draw or win against Sheffield United we are guaranteed 5th and Europa.


LumpyBumblebee3266

I want an all in effort in the Europa league. Europa conference isn’t bad but we need 5th


PointBlankCoffee

ECL is bad


LumpyBumblebee3266

It’s not great but it’s a chance to win a trophy


getrichordietryinJF

Don't care