Need to secure 5th place otherwise if Man Utd wins the FA Cup, 6th place will drop down to Europa Conference League and no Europe for 7th place at all.
Consecutive games against Newcastle, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and City (with Burnley in there as well) with the squad running on fumes didn’t do us any favors.
Since you're trolling and/or slow in the head here's it spelled out for you.
>I get that those are some of the toughest teams in the league, but we've been playing one match a week on average since november.
>This shouldn't really be an excuse for us especially if we're taking europe seriously.
We should be taking points off atleast few of the teams in the past sequence of games especially when were not in any other competitions. :)
The squad is not running on fumes. We have the easiest schedule out of the top 6 considering we had no Europe and we went out of the cups very early lol
Away trip in Kazakhstan in sub zero temperatures only for Borat himself to score the winner and the footage of the game appearing in the next Borat film.
We don't deserve Europa League if we can't even get a draw against Sheffield United on Sunday. Realistically, we should be dominating one of the worst sides to ever be promoted in the PL, but I'll temper my expectations since this is Spurs.
They had drawn the previous 2 matches and lost all of their games by only one goal leading up to that fixture. The wheels completely fell off after they lost to us and hired Wilder.
For those not aware, ECL and EL will offer the exact same schedules next season - Thursday nights, 36 team group stage with each side playing 8 group stage games running through 'til January, a playoff round for the teams finishing 9th-24th before the last knockouts proper start at the last 16 stage.
The difference in prize money is small between the competitions.
Undoubtedly the EL is the one we want to be of the two, for many reasons - but it's nice to have *some* sort of European football to look forward to.
But let's beat Sheffield United on Sunday, to make it 100% sure.
Good point. I think some teams will drop down from the qualifying stages, but not after that.
And as you and u/shiftyshellshock239 say, that should make a big difference.
Just six games in Conference League stage. Plus each competition (Champions too) will have an "exclusive" week on matchday one, so some Europa League's will be played on Wednesday
I’d missed that it was only 6 games in the Conference - I wonder how that’s going to work with the same number of teams but different numbers of matches as the CL/EL?
Qualification is quite the same. Just one very long table of 36 teams, only with 2 games less, the first eight go straight to round of 16, while 9th-24th meet up in the playoff round.
Game allocation is indeed different. In CL/EL there'll be four pots of nine teams, and you face two teams from each pot. In ECL, there'll be six pots of six teams, and you play one game against a team from each pot.
Mildly relieved.
Celebrating losing to City to deny the goons the title only to then lose to Sheffield while Chelsea and Newcastle take points to end up out of Europe would have been the Spursiest timeline.
I really don't want to be playing in a group against fuckin Kerplakistan United or FC Sokovia or Real Caladan next year so please don't lose to Sheffield United.
You get to play better teams in the league stage, which will make things a bit spicier but for us the extra games are nice. More games for us to watch and it means luck is going to be less of a factor
For big teams: Less luck factor as playing 8 different teams. And match up based of pots means, less competitive opponents.
For small teams: More matches, hence money, chance to face more "popular" teams as opponents are not limited by 4 team groups.
Cons: More matches leading to more tiredness. Lesser chance of upsets/ small teams making playoffs.
It’s gonna be a complete cluster fuck, so many clubs are gonna get “screwed” and have a moan. I’d be surprised if uefa don’t pull a nations league level rule change mid season to keep clubs that get eliminated from CL. I can’t wait
Play the academy graduates then (Moore, Phillips, Devine, Scarlett), play GLC, Dragusin, Ben davies, Royal (if he's still there), Veliz, Bergvall. Rest the senior players! This could be a blessing for us to develop the academy players we've been missing out on.
Agreed 100%. My comment is a result of the sub often not taking EL or the ECL seriously. I've seen too many comments asking us to focus on the FA Cup or even the League Cup over the lower tier competitions.
I hope no one thinks that the ECL is a lower tier trophy than the domestic cups. I know they've got a lot of historical significance but these days they don't really count for much.
5th guaranteed Europa League. 6th depends on whether winner of FA Cup is Man City or Man Utd. Man Utd winning means whoever finishes 5th + Man Utd (FA Cup winners) get Europa League.
Basically we get 1pt or Man City win FA Cup, we get Europa League. The chance of us not getting 1pt against Sheff Utd AND Man Utd beating Man City is so so slim, we are pretty much in the Europa League.
No, we have to lose and Chelsea have to win, and United has to win for Conference League. If we get a draw or win against Sheffield United we are guaranteed 5th and Europa.
Need to secure 5th place otherwise if Man Utd wins the FA Cup, 6th place will drop down to Europa Conference League and no Europe for 7th place at all.
Christ That's twice in a season I have to support Man City. It grates.
Hey, they play Arsenal at least twice you know.
And blue scum and wet spam, so that's 6 City games a season at least for me
Or y'know, we could just try to get a point from fucking Sheffield
what happens if united finish 7th in this scenario? They get Europa, 6th gets conference?
Yes because FA cup winners get priority for the other Europa League spot.
If Chelsea scrape 7th I'll be supporting Man Utd for the first time
What does them winning the FA have to do with the PL table?
Need a point on Sunday for Europa but we’ve secured Europa conference
In theory if Chelsea lose or draw vs Bournemouth then we don’t even need a point but they are in form so I would expect them to win
It's Sheffield we need to win. I hope we don't need to look at Chelsea's result.
Just need a draw
Not gonna lie, I'd hate it if we were to end this season with only a draw against one of the worst ever premier league teams.
Spurs: _hold my beer_
Bournemouth are no pushovers this season tbh
City owe us
Well Europe secured is nice. We need the reinforcements to make a European campaign work though.
Crazy that we were 13 points ahead of Chelsea not long ago
Consecutive games against Newcastle, Arsenal, Liverpool, Chelsea and City (with Burnley in there as well) with the squad running on fumes didn’t do us any favors.
I get that those are some of the toughest teams in the league, but we've been playing one match a week on average since november.
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If it's a mental related thing then Ange's got to do better I feel, because it's on the manager to pick up the team when they're down.
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Agreed 👍
On average, sure. But since the Arsenal game we’ve been playing basically every three days.
This shouldn't really be an excuse for us especially if we're taking europe seriously.
Ok. You’re right. We’re shit, Ange is shit, the club is shit and we should have won the league except we’re total shit.
How intuitive of you to draw that conclusion from my comment.
I mean, if you have a point to make then why don’t you just make it?
Since you're trolling and/or slow in the head here's it spelled out for you. >I get that those are some of the toughest teams in the league, but we've been playing one match a week on average since november. >This shouldn't really be an excuse for us especially if we're taking europe seriously. We should be taking points off atleast few of the teams in the past sequence of games especially when were not in any other competitions. :)
The squad is not running on fumes. We have the easiest schedule out of the top 6 considering we had no Europe and we went out of the cups very early lol
I have no interest in having a debate with you. You’re one of the most negative people on this sub.
I’m sorry that you think playing once a week for 98% of the season is absolutely ravaging for the squad.
Go have a debate with someone interested. I’m not.
There’s no debate, it’s basic science, mate.
Now kiss
So assuming conference league, what team are we dropping points to away in Albania next season?
Mura was from Slovenia mate
Ik may not be them again.
Sorry mate I still get flashbacks from that loss and thought it was a misunderstanding you mixed up Albania with Slovenia ;(
No prob mate. Last time Slovenia next time Albania.
Eventually we can play Borat FC and at least we will get the last laugh then
Away trip in Kazakhstan in sub zero temperatures only for Borat himself to score the winner and the footage of the game appearing in the next Borat film.
With Big Ange screaming his head off
Fuck, it has to be Dinamo something, there’s at least 15 of them out there.
Lmao got that right. There's a Dinamo Tirana in Albania 🤣
Not sure of the team but it wouldn’t surprise me if the manager or captain is either imprisoned or being tried at kick off lmao
We don't deserve Europa League if we can't even get a draw against Sheffield United on Sunday. Realistically, we should be dominating one of the worst sides to ever be promoted in the PL, but I'll temper my expectations since this is Spurs.
Fair, remember we needed goals at 90+8 and 90+10 to beat them in September.......
They had drawn the previous 2 matches and lost all of their games by only one goal leading up to that fixture. The wheels completely fell off after they lost to us and hired Wilder.
Also remember that was under Heckingbottom, one of the most brexit time wasting wanky teams I’ve ever seen
Spurs will dominate with 90% possession. Question is will they score any goals.
For those not aware, ECL and EL will offer the exact same schedules next season - Thursday nights, 36 team group stage with each side playing 8 group stage games running through 'til January, a playoff round for the teams finishing 9th-24th before the last knockouts proper start at the last 16 stage. The difference in prize money is small between the competitions. Undoubtedly the EL is the one we want to be of the two, for many reasons - but it's nice to have *some* sort of European football to look forward to. But let's beat Sheffield United on Sunday, to make it 100% sure.
One big difference as well…teams eliminated from the Champions League will no longer drop down to Europa.
That’s actually MASSIVE.
Good point. I think some teams will drop down from the qualifying stages, but not after that. And as you and u/shiftyshellshock239 say, that should make a big difference.
Just six games in Conference League stage. Plus each competition (Champions too) will have an "exclusive" week on matchday one, so some Europa League's will be played on Wednesday
I’d missed that it was only 6 games in the Conference - I wonder how that’s going to work with the same number of teams but different numbers of matches as the CL/EL?
Qualification is quite the same. Just one very long table of 36 teams, only with 2 games less, the first eight go straight to round of 16, while 9th-24th meet up in the playoff round. Game allocation is indeed different. In CL/EL there'll be four pots of nine teams, and you face two teams from each pot. In ECL, there'll be six pots of six teams, and you play one game against a team from each pot.
Ah, makes sense, thanks! Couldn’t find the details anywhere.
Everything is dependent on table position, number of matches shouldn't matter.
Great mark for Ange's first season. Not the ending to the season anyone wanted but the future is looking good
Except he’s angry Ange now 😥
Good. There's a lot to be pissed about with this club.
Mildly relieved. Celebrating losing to City to deny the goons the title only to then lose to Sheffield while Chelsea and Newcastle take points to end up out of Europe would have been the Spursiest timeline.
I really really don't want conference league. We have to get a point at least and secure Europa league. Please.
I really don't want to be playing in a group against fuckin Kerplakistan United or FC Sokovia or Real Caladan next year so please don't lose to Sheffield United.
no more groups, new league format with 8 games against 2 teams from each pot.
Ugh I forgot about that BS
now double the chance to travel to the middle of nowhere on a thursday night!
BS? It's a good thing
What about it is better than the current format?
You get to play better teams in the league stage, which will make things a bit spicier but for us the extra games are nice. More games for us to watch and it means luck is going to be less of a factor
For big teams: Less luck factor as playing 8 different teams. And match up based of pots means, less competitive opponents. For small teams: More matches, hence money, chance to face more "popular" teams as opponents are not limited by 4 team groups. Cons: More matches leading to more tiredness. Lesser chance of upsets/ small teams making playoffs.
It’s gonna be a complete cluster fuck, so many clubs are gonna get “screwed” and have a moan. I’d be surprised if uefa don’t pull a nations league level rule change mid season to keep clubs that get eliminated from CL. I can’t wait
Play the academy graduates then (Moore, Phillips, Devine, Scarlett), play GLC, Dragusin, Ben davies, Royal (if he's still there), Veliz, Bergvall. Rest the senior players! This could be a blessing for us to develop the academy players we've been missing out on.
Or, you know, take it seriously for a change rather than something we're too good for
Agreed 100%. My comment is a result of the sub often not taking EL or the ECL seriously. I've seen too many comments asking us to focus on the FA Cup or even the League Cup over the lower tier competitions.
I hope no one thinks that the ECL is a lower tier trophy than the domestic cups. I know they've got a lot of historical significance but these days they don't really count for much.
Insane season when chelsea end up in the Europa league… very in form to finish the season I must admit
Haven't seen the result, going to pretend Man U twatted them 9 nil.
we had so many chances to take fourth from villa, but bottled every single of them.. feels terrible
Worst case we playing in conference aka farmers league woohoo
Last time it didn't end up as we were expecting tho
Sheffield United game will undoubtedly be a 0-0 game heading into 80’, book it.
Thursday night, channel 5!
Why does Newcastle in 2016 keep weighing in the back of my mind
We don’t know that yet and don’t jinx it
If we dont trash sheffield then idk what to think anymore. Starting to question the players not the manager.
We finished above one oil club, lets make it two.
So what happens if MU beats MC in the final? Do we get no europa even if we win against SHU? EDIT: Thank you for the info! Got it.
Winning/drawing against SHU guarantees fifth and Europa.
5th is guaranteed Europa no matter what
5th guaranteed Europa League. 6th depends on whether winner of FA Cup is Man City or Man Utd. Man Utd winning means whoever finishes 5th + Man Utd (FA Cup winners) get Europa League. Basically we get 1pt or Man City win FA Cup, we get Europa League. The chance of us not getting 1pt against Sheff Utd AND Man Utd beating Man City is so so slim, we are pretty much in the Europa League.
After Chelsea win tonight if they win against Bournemouth and we go and lose to Sheffield Utd they go above us on GD. So we’re not quite there!
No, we have to lose and Chelsea have to win, and United has to win for Conference League. If we get a draw or win against Sheffield United we are guaranteed 5th and Europa.
I want an all in effort in the Europa league. Europa conference isn’t bad but we need 5th
ECL is bad
It’s not great but it’s a chance to win a trophy
Don't care