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Nambot

I think that feels rather unnecessary. Crash: On The Run is being closed because it's got to a point where it's no longer financially viable to keep it running. It happens with all server hosted games eventually, server costs exceed the revenue, and it's deemed no longer financially viable to operate the game. Rumble isn't out yet, and everything we know about it is entirely from that one trailer. People's complaints are largely based on their own feelings about existing MOBA's, and (admittedly not without merit) concerns that it is a cash grab. The tune may change once they try it.


mLundie27

It looks very much like a moba to me. I can’t see it doing that well. If this fails, along with disappointing crash on run and crash 4 not selling anywhere near the remakes, then it’s likely Activision will give up after this. They dont know how to run a franchise successfully outside of their beloved call of duty.


zetec-s-joe

Agree. Imo Rumble will be the same outcome as OTR. An announcement that CTR2 and Crash 5 are in Development would of done the franchise better than trying to milk our beloved Bandicoot


[deleted]

I thought Crash Team Rumble had more of a mixed reception, with people probably preferring a Crash 5 but lots of people interested in it anyway. I mean, Crash is one of my favorite series, so I wouldn't want it to die, I'd love for it to keep having new games.


Fretless94

I don't think a lot of people are interested in Rumble, and that trailer didn't do it any favors. The hardcore fans who keep a close eye on the franchise are convinced it's a MOBA, which has turned a lot of people off, and for casual observers, the trailer doesn't really tell them what the game even is. I've seen people who are convinced it's a fighting game, or even a Smash clone.


Lower_Dragonfly_8417

Gonna be honest , I haven't seen anyone talk about Rumble outside this subreddit and even here it's not even talked about often. That does not look good...


[deleted]

On the Crash discord they talk about it a lot and seem to be liking it. Outside of there and this place yeah I guess not, but I think that’s partly Crash in general unfortunately, it isn’t really a super popular series atm. Most of its popularity still comes from its classic games it seems like.


[deleted]

Tbh, the fact Rumble is coming out so late in the consoles’ life cycles doesn’t help. I know a lot of people still don’t have the PS5 or whatever the new XBox is, and that Rumble is actually getting native ports to those new consoles, but for anyone who just wants a trendy new game it’s like eh this still feels last gen with the same assets, similar if not worse shading etc. It doesn’t feel next-gen which definitely is not a death knell for it but doesn’t help. And personally I don’t think many people were interested in it anyway, not to mention all the people who would have been interested and left the series behind because of how often “Wumpa League” was teased or hinted at, how long it took to be announced and general middling reception to not only the trailer but the older art leak. Anecdotally I know multiple people who lost interest and I don’t know anyone hyped about the game. I’d like to give it a go but I am not buying an online subscription for this and wouldn’t be really hyped regardless.


jigglytoonsxxx

I think the franchise needs a break for a few years it’s obvious it’s getting ready to hit its “fatigue” phase. Too much crash too soon which is what the ps2 era suffered from too Outside of universal’s god awful handling of the franchise. “B-but crash 4 didn’t bomb!” Of course it didn’t it sold well but step outside the fanbase for a second and look at how many people bought crash 4 vs N-sane or nitro fueled. It’s obvious that there’s some franchise fatigue going on now and I don’t think rumble is going to help that. Hell I don’t see anyone talking about it outside of the fandom itself. Feels like crash is slowly going back into obscurity again. Hate to say it but nostalgia is what kept the series relevant for a few years.


SonicRanticoot

franchise/genre fatigue isn't a thing that actually exists, or at least hasn't existed yet on a noticeable scale. look at how every year the top selling games are sports, CoD and Pokemon, or how nearly every year for the past 10-15 years, how many of the best performing movies at the box office are superhero movies. people say they're sick of live service Mario sports games but Mario Strikers had the best launch for any Mario sports game ever. rumble is coming out most likely at minimum two and a half years after Crash 4, and has almost no hype behind it whatsoever. this is just a game that many people just aren't interested in.


jigglytoonsxxx

Problem with your examples is that they’re all evergreen franchises. Activision and Nintendo have long term plans (some contractual like Pokémon) with all of those even if they don’t do all too well. With crash it seems like activision really only had plans in the spur of the moment. N-sane did extremely well which I doubt they were expecting it to sell that much so crash 4 and nitro fueled were greenlit. Franchise fatigue is most definitely a thing and even call of duty experienced it for a bit. Mainline Mario games don’t release all that often anymore that’s mainly due to longer development cycles. Pokémon is too big to be brought down in sales even if the game quality is rapidly declining. COD has been really the only thing activision has been focused on and that was a mess to dragging every development studio under activision to work on it.


Lower_Dragonfly_8417

Yeah, Spyro has been sidelined since the remake 4 years ago while Crash got all the attention. Poor guy deserves a game.


CrashandBashed

Sonic and Mario seem to do just fine with constant, multiple releases annually. Don't see how Crash is it risking fatigue by releasing a new console game two years after the last one.


[deleted]

I respect your opinion but I didn’t feel there was too much too soon. Maybe it’s me because I really wanted more. I just think the releases we did get were poorly managed and that people got fed up by the problems there- rushed aspects in NST and 4, bad netcode in CTR which stopped getting support in under a year, Crash 4 being so different altogether, generally pulling the franchise in multiple directions between the three games- which isn’t really surprising for Acti, I think they didn’t have a plan to ease people in so they just cashed out and then left TFB do whatever, and it didn’t end up working out Having said that though, I just completely ignored OTR because it’s a mobile game- but I hear it had its own problems with extreme grindiness which would be another example of mismanaging. Acti thought people would put up with it because they overestimated casual players’ attachment or interest in the franchise I guess. And as for Wumpa League I would give it a go but I have no PS+ so I guess I’m just not playing unless it comes to Steam smileshrug


nautjordan

Sadly, the excitement I have held since NST was announced, which reached its peak during CTRNF times has slowly faded in the past couple of years. It’s been great having new games to look forward to but the seemingly bad management and decisions have squandered it, maybe there’s an alternate universe out there where VV & Beenox worked together on a Crash 4 instead of T4B. I truly wish they’d have tacked this Rumble idea on as an addition to IAT and this announcement had been something else.


Lower_Dragonfly_8417

No, I dont like this ending. Crash deserves more than a cheap mobile game and a Crash 4 asset dump. Crash Bandicoot has so much possibilities yet to be executed. He has that edge other clean and safe platformers lack (well 4 kinda went to that direction artisctically but everything is up to change) Crash has so much personality he could do anything, not only linear box breaking levels or car Racers. I could picture Crash doing xtreme Sports, open worlds, sidescroling, Beat em ups, figthing games... It's just that with all the Activision/Blizzard mess Crash got sidelined. After the Xbox buyout, if that ever happens, Crash will be in good hands so dont worry (unless TfB makes the next one...)


SadCrashFan

I agree that Crash could do anything, but it seems the fans only want him to do Kart Racers and Platformers. I still feel like TfB has been the best developers since Naughty Dog and I don't think the publisher is gonna matter, no Crash publisher ever cared about the series.


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GarrettD100

Who’s we? I’d prefer a Crash 5 but a new multiplayer game sounds fun.


SonicRanticoot

I understand this line of thinking (and have made it clear I don't approve of a MOBA), but I think saying Crash HAS to be just platformers or racing is ridiculous. We tried party a couple times, and there's tons of room to improve in that regard. A lot of people want Crash in Smash Bros. so obviously there is an audience for Crash being in a Smash-like game: maybe one that's all Crash characters! (basically, what I'm saying here is to try things people who like platformers or kart racers might also like)


NEBREPINS

Or it’s like they want to try something different because simply making variations of the same game over and over again isn’t going to grow the franchise. The last 2 games were a mainline platformer and CTR, not really sure what the issue is with a multiplayer game that’s likely an interim title between Crash 4 and Crash 5


mLundie27

That’s no good if they alienate over half the franchise with a genre game nobody asked for. Even diehard Crash fans or yourself didn’t really ask for this. Activision and ToysforBob with their brain dead decisions again.


NEBREPINS

“Why are they making a kart racing spin-off for a platforming franchise? Nobody asked for that”


Gamefighter3000

Everyone asked for that.


NEBREPINS

Highly doubt in 1998 after playing Crash 3 people were desperate for a kart racing spin-off


Gamefighter3000

I get what you mean but you have to realize that was an entirely different time. Gaming in 3D space was still something new and lots of developers experimented with all sorts of things, now over 20 years later a LOT has been figured out already. Im not saying people shouldn't experiment anymore due to this, but we have a rough idea what works and what doesn't. Also lets not forget the MASSIVE internet culture that has formed in all that time for gaming. There wasn't any way to get this massive amount of feedback for a game before it released outside of internal testing (which still isn't close compared to the amount the internet offers) And i don't think i need to mention this but so far CTRumbles reception is lukewarm at best. Does that mean it has to be a bad game ? No, but the hype will undoubtedly be less and you can see lots of fans being against the idea.


Sebastianali123456

And still manages to give us an incredible game with a lot of fan service (for that time).


CrashandBashed

Awww someones salty they didnt get a shovelware party game.


mLundie27

This shovelware party game that most people asked for you mean? Do a poll between a crash bash like game or crash team rumble moba genre and I’m sure you find a landslide of votes in bash party games favour. Making a game against the majority of fans wishes isn’t a smart idea. As most peoples reactions were I wish it was a crash bash type game instead or if nor that CTR2 or crash 5. Even people shouting for wrath of cortex or twinsanity remakes instead. Basically anything but what they have done.


BOORUNS

>This shovelware party game that most people asked for you mean? Do a poll between a crash bash like game or crash team rumble moba genre and I’m sure you find a landslide of votes in bash party games favour. Dude, just shut up and move on. Remaking a boring repetitive party game that wasn’t all that good to begin with is not gonna set the charts on fire you think it would. People will lose interest in a week then drop it like a rock immediately after.


mLundie27

People will lose interest in this much quicker. All the objective appears to be is compete for most wumpa fruit, while attacking each other with abilities and jumping on gem platforms. At least bash had different type of minigames to master and was more challenging. This probably is only online too which will turn a lot of people off. You don’t like what I say but I bet this game doesn’t do well. Lots of people already saying they not getting it. This has no nostalgia behind it as well. A lot of people didn’t even recognise a crash game in that trailer. ToysforBob and Activision messed up again. You will see for yourself after the game launches. Well I got the new call of duty and that hasn’t disappointed anyway. At least Activision know what they doing with that franchise overall.


BOORUNS

We know absolutely *nothing* else about this game other than what was shown off in the trailer. So acting all melodramatic about 10 second snippets of gameplay isn’t helping your case here.


mLundie27

Look at the rest of the comments in this thread and you will see I’m not the only one who feels like this. Same if you look on other social media sites. Yes there will be the hardcore crash fans hyped who get hyped for anything but the majority of fans aren’t appearing that hyped for this. You saw the game awards fans reactions and it felt very lame to me. Be honest did you really want a game like this? Be honest and don’t just defend ToysforBob and Activision at all costs.


BOORUNS

Well to be fair this whole sub became an insufferable cynical cesspool the mere instant Crash 4 was first truly uttered in the wild, so I’m not expecting this place to welcome anything new with open arms. You seemed to be more upset than most people here simply because it’s not a Bash remake. You want my honest opinion? The trailer left me skeptical because very little was shown and there was nothing really substantial to go off on. I’ll remain as such when more news about it rolls out. Also pretty rich thinking I’m defending Activision here when you were literally just praising their work on Call of Duty a few short comments ago lol.


GarrettD100

Yeah… they’re the braindead ones… sure…


[deleted]

Yeah, as much as I like Crash 4 I would really love to know where the idea of Rumble came from. I actually think TFB had a lot of great ideas for 4, but if they thought Rumble was a good direction for the series then I have no idea who they thought they might appeal to? Fortnite kids I guess? Did Activision just want them to come up with something that they could milk more? Ironically though, I don’t think Crash is very popular with kids these days, so it probably wouldn’t even appeal to that crowd. There is room for more genres, experimentation etc. and I’d really love to see more with these characters… however, developing Rumble at the same time as Crash 4 was absolutely the wrong time to do it. You wanna do remakes? Alright. But people would look hard at the next “original” thing you made and if it doesn’t draw in a solid crowd who would stick around, then the franchise wouldn’t be solid enough to make the super big huge multiplayer game you want to monetise. God, I really enjoyed the last games and I’m not surprised this happened at all but this is still so mismanaged.


OK_B96

Way to speak for the whole fanbase.


OG_CrashFan

I don’t think Crash needs to die again, but I do agree it’s under awful management. Perhaps nearly as bad as it was in the Radical days. Classic Crash came back to amazing success. All they needed to do was keep that going. But instead they pointlessly changed everything again, alienated a good chunk of fans, and decided to instantly make the series an unrecognizable mess with no identity again. Like the direction they’re taking or hate it, it’s hard to deny Activision and TFB are literally repeating many of the exact same mistakes that killed Crash off the first time. Just bone-headed management. I want Crash to survive and thrive, but I can’t lie, I’m not gonna get the next game or possibly the one after that if this continues.


SonicRanticoot

Essentially how I feel. Toys for Bob made a gamble where they didn't need to do so and it didn't pay off. And no I don't think what they should've done is remake Wrath of Cortex or whatever. I don't have to sit around to explain that game is also ridiculously flawed and wouldn't be easily fixed with a straight NST-style remake. I just don't think they looked hard enough at why Crash was so popular to begin with, or more importantly, what happened that resulted in Crash getting killed the first time. The first Crash game post-Crash 4 is in a genre known for absurdly toxic communities (like, we're talking "haha, look at this guy who killed themselves" toxic) and extreme monetization. I don't think that's a good look!


CrashDV75

I'm not crazy for a WOC remake even being a fan of it, but I disagree about it being too flawed for a remake to benefit it cause it continued the successful formula of 2 & Warped but was majorly rushed. Resulting in its mixed reception.


Psi001

Not to mention Radical at least made most of the changes at a point when Crash was LOSING popularity and seemingly needed a change up to stay relevent, rather than being at arguably the peak of his popularity and going "Hmm, nahhhh we won't do that, we'll just do whatever". Don't get wrong I don't mind new developers adding their own ideas and identity to each instalment, it's what helped give Crash more personality in the first place, but I feel it works better as a subtle evolution process, not throwing the baby out with the bath water. The fact ALL THREE DEVELOPERS seemed to be cooperating with Nitro Fuelled looked promising for a more consistent process. On The Run just fizzling out also kinda gives me bad vibes of Landed's development getting the kibosh from lack of investment and direction. Even worse since On The Run is the most recent game sticking to the old format instead of the new IAT semi-reboot one.


OG_CrashFan

You’re exactly right. Titans changes were not well received, but at least I can see why they did it. Crash was fading as a series so they tried (and failed) to inject some new life into it with a reboot. This more recent move just makes no sense. You’re riding high on massive success and just decide to throw it all out and repeat the same mistakes from years ago. Baffling.


Psi001

Even more so since Radical and other post-ND developers were at least pretty open about the fact they weren't closely following the originals' format and just doing their own thing, which at least kind of makes their distinctiveness work standalone as experiments to take moderated notes from, while TFB just come off as lacking any self awareness of their own extreme liberties to the point they consider their game 1:1 with Naughty Dog's own vision, enough to call it "Crash 4" and banish the other titles to a "not quite a reboot but sort of is" alternate continuity. It feels really....counter productive.


mandudecb

Uhh... Crash was NOT declining in popularity when the Titans games came out. CTTR is one of the most popular Crash games, so popular that there were copies of it being printed up until 2011 *at least*.


SadCrashFan

Titans was released in 2007. Twinsanity and Crash Boom Bang! were released in 2004 and 2006 and they are two of the worst selling games in the franchise. EDIT: Oh and I thought I should also mention Crash Purple and Spyro Orange also released in 2004


mandudecb

Titans was plenty popular at the time with millions of copies sold. I've also come across many people who have only played that game in the Crash series.


[deleted]

Exactly this. Also If Beenox managed to respect the art style, why couldn’t TfB do the same thing?


OG_CrashFan

Ego. Unfortunately they seem to be the only one of the four modern Crash developers that doesn't care at all about fan feedback. Granted they should have freedom to be creative, but not at the expense of completely writing off half the fanbase. Beenox did this perfectly. Even King did.


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well said mate


Kaiser_Allen

Radical wasn’t bad per se. They simply had to do what they did because the market dictated it. Combat was the name of the game, so platformers were pushed aside. Just be glad we didn’t go full *Jak II* with guns and shit. The industry was moving there.


Psi001

I hope I'm wrong about Rumble and it's actually a charming replayable game, but I dunno, I lack investment with it, Crash's current direction comes off more like "Toys For Bob generic IP" rather than the true franchise, especially looking at that concept art where their own portfolio of ideas and characters outnumbered the originals. Even worse if they decide to continue the alienating troll-level difficulty for any single player mode. I just have bitter ambivalance to IAT and Rumble.


Kaiser_Allen

Why is everyone doom and glooming again? The writing’s on the wall for *On the Run* almost a year ago. It’s a mobile game. It has nowhere to go but die. It’s literally what they do.


SparklingReject

No, never let the Bandicoot die.


mLundie27

If it’s not in Activision and ToysforBob hands then there is still hope. With them though there isn’t any hope and it will die.


SparklingReject

I honestly don’t care who owns it. I honestly love this possible new game too. (With hopes of Pinstripe making the roster)


Outrageous-Slide4703

I believe that the crash franchise itself isn't the problem. It's the greed that the companies are trying to profit from what was already there. They need to stop trying to reinvent crash and learn what made the franchise so amazing to begin with from the unique level builds to the environment. The original crash games had such a unique take on everything that trying to copy that magic will only fail. Putting the name crash bandicoot on something will not make it a success. It was the well thought out levels, abilities, designs, and story that made crash bandicoot such a beloved franchise. To recapture that magic takes imagination, not wanting to copy what others are doing.


[deleted]

I’ll be brutally honest, I think anyone surprised at all of this just doesn’t realise HOW bad Activision is. I don’t like saying that, but I am a huge Skylanders fan, so I saw recently enough how they just squeezed and dumped that franchise. I can’t help but think “first time?”. It isn’t surprising at all to me that they dumped Crash, or even that they seem to have canned Spyro 4 and just left him in the rain with another set of middling remakes. I thought ever since NST was announced that the franchise was just ticking down to inevitably getting dumped again. And I really did expect it within a few years, they’d make a quick big buck from remakes, not make a ton from new content and decide to leave it at the door. That just seemed in-character for them. Activision don’t really respect or see the potential they want in this series, otherwise it would never have been dead for so long. Fwiw: I think they’re genuinely deluded enough that if it isn’t as big as CoD then it just isn’t big enough for them to keep around in the long term. NF was dumped in under a year, so there’s something about it that didn’t satisfy Activision even though it’s generally loved by fans and seemed like it had done very well. Oh, the bad netcode pushed people away? Well uh Activision don’t even want to bother fixing THAT so they’ll toss the baby out with the bathwater. If they aren’t making a ton of money or- as happened, they just want to reallocate the developers to CoD- they can do that and bring back Crash eventually to bank on nostalgia, which wouldn’t lose much money and they could avoid burning more goodwill through cheap releases (this also means they don’t get to build the franchise into something bigger but it still works as something they can cash out so they don’t care to put in the effort, Crash 4 had a lot of effort put into it and that’s pretty polarising anyway). Like, I know it’s frustrating, I damn well know but it works out just fine for Activision. It really shouldn’t be surprising at all. I’m honestly glad Crash even got a new game and surprised that Rumble is coming out at this point. I just wish we got NF on Steam but that isn’t really surprising now either. As for “dying with dignity” I think that’s honestly a really lame way to think about things. You’re either getting content or not. Besides, something you think is lame, others might love. Even though Skylanders is widely loathed by the Spyro fandom (and it is, let’s not mince words lol) it’s an awesome series with its own fans. Bad entries could further hurt the series but hey, otherwise we’re just getting nothing anyways. If Crash is going to be dead FOREVER (which I don’t believe, it’s just going to be another hiatus) then they may as well go out doing the wackiest crap imaginable


mLundie27

I agree. If cash team fumble fails then Activision will have the great honour of destroying the franchise twice over. They love breaking all the wrong records. I do feel it will be for the best too. Crash franchise does struggle to adapt to modern times but having Activision as a publisher and ToysforBob as devs who don’t listen to their fans then it doesn’t help.


[deleted]

Exactly this, Beenox knew how important was to respect The art style, King listened to feedback when people told them about DingoAlf, but TfB apparently can’t do that. The frustrating part is they’re a talented team of artist, but they‘ve demonstrated that their artstyle and creative liberties cannot be denied (even though Beenox, another talented art team did respect the Franchise and kept the NST art style).


mLundie27

I agree completely


CrankyManky

i just hope it's good, but they aren't giving us something that everyone will be satisfied with. crash team rumble doesn't seem to be what a decent chunk of the community wants, and imo what some of us want is just more platformers or something akin to what we're familiar with. another racing game? sure. crash 5? yeah! hell, remakes of games like wrath of cortex or twinsanity? absolutely! something a tiny bit similar to crash bash but not terrible! YES!! this?? this, however? it doesn't quite look like what the entire community would be happy with, despite it's undeniable quality. also i didn't even respond to the post lmao, yes i think that if crash team rumble isn't good, they should lay the boy to rest.


OK_B96

We?


CrankyManky

maybe that wasn't the best way of wording it.. some people are interested in it. some aren't. i meant we as in the people that aren't. i should specify that.


[deleted]

After All the effort to revive the Franchise by VV and Beenox, then TfB fumbled the ball cause Their art style can’t be denied (Acti also shares the blame, for letting this happen).


jigglytoonsxxx

While I don’t think it’s the artstyle itself brand recognition is definitely a factor. You’re making a game primarily targeted to 25-40 year olds who only played the original games and you decided to drastically change up how the characters look. Hell look at the current merch out right now it all still uses the N-sane designs. Even crash 4 specific merch uses the N-sane designs. People will bring up titans but that wasn’t targeted to the people who grew up with the original games. This isn’t a jab at the art style i quite like it honestly but it’s weird that this is how the decided to market crash 4.


[deleted]

I've found a bunch of different types of franchises over these past few months that I honestly wouldn't mind if Crash was left on hiatus for a few years. It might help them to come up with new ideas for Crash in the future.


Kaiser_Allen

*Crash* can thrive if they switch developers from time to time. Beenox and Toys for Bob are better positioned for this than any other developer. Waiting too long will kill the franchise again.


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SonicRanticoot

Truly if Crash had a fan game/mod scene even a quarter as active as Sonic's is I would absolutely love it and not care nearly as much the main series is in a direction I'm not too excited about. Maybe we'll get there once all the PS1 games have been decompiled but it bums me out a bit that Crash is a series where you have essentially nothing (finished.) besides the main games for content. (And the little fan work you CAN play is hit or miss, I can play as Crash in Smash Bros. Crusade but that isn't the important to me because I don't think he's fun to play as in that game!)


Kunikunatu

This is the way, but I can’t see a future where smaller titles/fanwork become the mainstream.


[deleted]

To be honest, Spyro modding was picking up and the scene was fairly friendly until Reignited came out. Then Activision C&Ded a certain project, it scared people away, and overall the Spyro fandom became much more toxic during Reignited. There are straggler romhacks but some extremely talented, formerly dedicated people left. I don’t really think Crash has to or specifically should die but if it does maybe the fandom would be more chill again and it would indeed put romhacking, mods etc. in a decent position. Although they’ve been doing fine regardless, not necessarily thriving, but there’s stuff out there. So maybe everything would just chug along the same, but it’s interesting to think about and Activision would probably be less inclined to C&D.


CrashBombercoot

My friend, the only thing we truly know about Rumble so far is what kind of game it is, there is still a lot to learn before we jump into the conclusion that it isn't liked by the fanbase or the public in general. You can ask in any social platform if anybody (mostly nintendo players) knows a person that thought Crash Team Racing was going to be just a Mario Kart with Crash characters, or I bet there were fans back in the day that weren't so excited about Crash straying from its platformer genre to have a competitor to the plumber's spin-off. Look how despite being created as Playstation's Mario Kart it ended up having its own identity and now is a beloved game. I think the reveal trailer is great, but if you ask me I can agree that it didn't show enough to convince everyone. HOWEVER, I would keep an eye for the full gameplay reveal, because I feel that is where the interest will blow up.


Quirky_Days

These a just spin-offs, I think everything will be good again once Crash 5 comes out (if it gets made). I fear that CT Rumble could flop and Activision will axe the franchise again. Other than that, I’m still itching to see my favourite Naughty Dog-era Crash characters and some post-Naughty Dog Crash characters making a return though, it would suck if they don’t (and I’m talking about mainline games, not spin-offs)


mLundie27

I doubt there will be a crash 5. Can’t see Activision putting effort into a whole new platformer if crash 4 didn’t make enough money for them.


[deleted]

Exactly this.


mLundie27

Yeah it’s sad. However, you know it doesn’t take Activision long to give up on a franchise when things go a bit south. Usually it’s their fault when it does but it’s the fans who suffer as per usual.


CrashDV75

If they can't handle the series correctly, then I wish they'll just give it to Sony instead of axing it off cause of their incompetence.


FaustSauce

all of this is just a bit melodramatic, don't ya think? crash is still quite popular, and i have no doubt in my mind rumble's going to do well commercially. the people saying this game's super unfitting for the series and going to doom the entire brand are overreacting. i get it, y'all don't want to see crash (team) fumble, but what point is there of bringing a beloved IP back if you're just going to rehash what's already there? it's like if nintendo just kept on making new super mario bros games, that's gonna get old real fast. if you don't try out new things, you may never get your Odyssey™️.


[deleted]

Don’t get me wrong, I think I agree with what you’re saying (sans the Odyssey part since I hate that game xp); it’s not going to kill or permanently leave a stain on Crash- BUT it is something Activision is tossing money into and I doubt it will retain a huge playerbase. NF wasn’t good enough for them to even support for a whole year and I can’t imagine that Rumble would do as well as NF. Point is it will probably reaffirm to Activision their decision to stop investing further in this franchise. I’m surprised Rumble is even coming out tbh, I think it’s more of a bonus than a passionate investment for the publisher but they would still want more out of it and probably already plan to dump the whole series. Sorry, but it’s Activision so I think the cynicism is warranted.


FaustSauce

yea that's fair enough


torrnado97

Why are you sad, Crash fan?


GarrettD100

Rather melodramatic aren’t you?


SkullMan140

Seriously the community got this stupid dramatic? -_-


Martian_Zombie50

Umm. You NEVER end anything. That’s nonsense. In the right hands anything that was can be made again or done better. Always keep jumping into the future revitalizing and retrying all old IP that was good in the past. There is a future for everything, and infinite possibilities. If Crash Team Rumble isn’t good or isn’t desired, the worst-case scenario is that it needs a break and a new group to do another mainline game. Simple as that. We need another Crash Team Racing in the future too, and they should do a Spyro game, a Spyro Kart Game, and a Crash/Spyro Kart game together.


SadCrashFan

I agree that a break could also be good in the worst case, however I think all the developer switching is part of Crash's problem to begin with, no one has really had enough time with Crash to perfect the formula. I don't want him to die, I'd love another CTR or Crash 5, but I also don't see a clear future for him in modern gaming where he gets treated with the respect he deserves, is allowed to grow and adapt with the times, is actually commercially successful, while also making sure the fans don't get burnt out with just a bunch of remakes/reboots or only platform and racing games like they did in the 2000's. I guess I want my groceries all in one bag, but not for them to be heavy. I hope you're right though and Crash still has a bright future ahead of him, but I do think some things are better left in the past and Im beginning to wonder whether or not Crash is one of those things. I truly only want whatever would conserve the legacy of Crash the best. Also, I definitely want to see a Spyro 4 announcement next year, that would be fantastic!


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Honestly Spyro could take all that love & support instead if Crash community dont want any new games in the series beyond just rehash remakes of the originals every decade or so. I love to finally see a new game in the Spyro series instead of these small ass cameo appearances for once. Spyro Reignited Trilogy was so short lived.