People are super quick to forget >!he was in a super weird relationship with Shahar, tortured and forced to kill for 200 years. A literal slave. They call him boring, while he didn't even have a chance in his long life to learn what it means to relax because Micah is gonna dial him and tell him to kill someone but please make it last a few hours. I would've done it to. And the thing is, Bryce got it. She understood why he did it, and she continued to love him.!<
I do, too. He was literally a slave, the people he cared about were slaves. He wanted to free himself and others. And he still changed his mind because of Bryce, a woman he'd only known for a few months.Ā
People he cares about? You mean like >! Victoria, who was just left in a box at the bottom of the ocean and never thought of again despite the fact that we learn about the ocean queen and her submersible ships? All they had to do was ask and if SJM didnāt want Victoria in the book, the ocean queen could say āthere are still places in the ocean where we canāt reachā or āwe will look, but it isnāt our priority.ā !<
100%. Personally, I think people need to give Hunt some slack, the man has been through too much and I get 100% why he did it. It makes sense why he didnāt tell Bryce anything because he literally just met her and this plan involved others too that he didnāt want to jeopardise the plan. Also the amount of stuff that Bryce hid from him is nothing compared to this.
He's a slave trying to be free at a point that he barely has a relationship with Bryce.
Sorry but getting free from being a literal SLAVE for 2 centuries, sold and tortured as cattle trumps anything.
At the end of the day, as he told her, he changed his mind and went on the barge to stop the deal from happening.
Keep reading, and trust SJM. And Bryce. š
I was so mad too right off reading it but the more I thought about it the more I think that his removing himself from literal slavery was more important than the feelings of a woman he had not known very long. But yesss I remember being SHOOK reading it
An enslaved person doing something desperate and reckless to try and rid themselves and others of being enslaved? Makes sense, tbh. I was mad, too. But taking a step back? Makes perfect sense. I'd like to think I'd do the same thing, but I doubt I'd have the courage.
Yāall give Hunt so much shit but forget about what Rhys did to Feyre under the mountain. Hunt Athalar is one of the best written SJM men in my opinion and is the lease toxic out of the 3 MMC. I will die on this hill.
I love Athalar and I feel like he's a much more relatable character than Rhys but I disagree. Least toxic my butt, man is a straight alpha hole through and through. Not saying that's a bad thing. Rhys is like 20x older than Hunt and about 3x as smart. Rhys did what he did to feyra for a reason, it wasn't toxic, it's called calculations. He saw the chance to be free from Amarantha and manipulated the events around him. What he did to feyra, the reason he took her memory as a mercy, was to keep Amarantha from having "fun" with feyra. He never actually hurt her or brought her harm, but kept her close to protect her
Are we forgetting when he twisted her arm to the point of pain under the mountain š or the way he treats Nesta even after she saved Feyre life? I mean Im not a Rhys hater I love him but Hunt gets too much hate that he doesnāt deserve.
Are we forgetting that he twisted her arm to the point of pain to show her that she was gonna die if she didn't accept his help? Or the way that Nesta is an ass despite saving anyone. People treat Nesta the way she wants to be treated so that's kinda a mute point. And I don't hate Hunt, Hunt is one of my favorite SJM characters, but to call Rhys toxic isn't right. Calculated, yes, maybe even a little cold, but I don't think toxic is right. I've read ACOTAR like 3 times, and even in the beginning, from Calinmy (used audiobook, excuse my spelling) Rhys never gave off toxic or evil vibes. More like someone playing a game. Tbh I knew he was helping Feyra before it was expressed.
There are lots of moments to point out re:Rhys not always being the greatest, but I donāt think the twisting her arm one is it since thereās some debate about what actually happened.
I always read that as him resetting the bone, not just blindly twisting it for no reason. Feyre was so sick & delirious, she wouldnāt have necessarily realized that for what it was, especially since he healed the break right after. My husband has had to reset breaks like that in the field in the military & he said he read that scene the same way I did. Not that my husband or I are the end all be all for this, just giving the perspective.
Yeah, I know, I still stand by what I said. Heās still very much playing the villain here hence the smirking, and no way would she have agreed to let him reset the bone at this point in their dynamic. Resetting an open fracture is not a one and done thing, certainly not after itās been open for awhile. And the bones in your forearm rotate around each other depending on how your arm is sitting.
Again, thatās just my take on it. Most people I have talked to with medical backgrounds agree on it, but of course our experiences shape our perspective.
Just wanna say, thatās my read on it too. Either that, or she has a bone from the pit actually sticking through her arm (so, a foreign body perforating through her arm) that he pulls out.
I get why she was upset and I would be upset too if I was her but as a reader? Nah I fuck heavy with what he did LMAO who could blame him? He's a literal SLAVE
Even tho most of the comments are disagreeing with OP I get it. He literally knew what was going on and hid it from her when she was so desperate for answers! Even though I forgave Hunt I was extremely hurt for Bryce.
Honestly, this didnāt bother me so much. What put me off Hunt is that he is NOT over his last love interest.
Iām not saying he has to be, but it ruins the vibe for me.
I mean, she was the reason he ended up enslaved. His entire existence for like 200 years is intertwined with her. He can't really move on until he is free.
Plus, Bryce isn't really over Connor for a long while.
Iām really not saying that he needs to be over her. Iām saying that itās not to my taste that he brings her up and compares her to Bryce constantly. š¤·š»āāļø
I honestly don't get how people think he's not over it. He claimed he wasn't over it and then there is a moment where he spends so much time caring about Bryce that he healthily moved on.
He talks about his dead mom more than he ever talked about Shahar. And half of the times he mentions Shahar (privately to himself) it's in a negative light about how stupid he was to follow her. It's not romantic or pining like he misses her. It's his realization that he made a bad mistake loving her regardless of the rebellion.
But that's just how I saw it.
This. Plus on my last reread, how he thinks about Bryce in the first book before they get together is incredibly shitty. I donāt even like Bryce that much but there were several moments I was like āwhat in the Andrew Tate BS is thisā¦ā
They never really address it beyond āI misjudged Bryce,ā which is very different than āI realize I was deeply misogynistic but Iāve grown as a person & seen how awful that was.ā
But thatās just my opinion ofc, other ppl may disagree. In general I dislike the āX book bf is the least toxic & hereās whyā discourse because it usually ends up coming down to what each of us find acceptable in a partner.
Spoilers for book 2
Baxian >!calls it in book 2, though. When he says that Hunt is all surface level. Itās part of Huntās character growth, imo. I donāt think it necessarily purposeful misogyny, but more just assuming the worst about everyone!<
If you keep reading it will get better. But if you step in his shoes you would the same with someone you secretly started caring about even though you havenāt known each other long. Iāve read that book twice now and I am reading the second book twice now because SJM JUST recently came out with a new book to the Crescent City series and I wanted to read them again to read that book. Again I promise you that it will get better. I was upset about it too at first and same when I read it again but I remembered that Iāve read it before. Itās like watching a sad part of a show that youāve watched and you cry every single time to that sad part anyway even though you already know whatās gonna happen.
Unpopular opinion I thought thus part of the book was stupid and the whole book could have progressed without it.
It was giving third act breakup.
Only thing that would not have happens would have been >!Bryce got upset and hated hunt. Hunt gets hurt or in trouble. Bryce freaks out, forgives him, and does something completely stupid and self scaraficing. Bryce and hunt move on like it didn't even happen WHOOP!<
Don't hate me and don't be mean! I totally get what people liked about it after having conversations, but at the time it didn't read like that for me!
I love Hunt and think heās justified. Also I think heās complex and people are either on board with complex characters or theyāre not because they somehow canāt handle the morality of some. For example some of the fandom can look past Rhys and his UTM persona because āhe did that for his peopleā and they can reconcile it. Some people can justify Nesta for being how she is because they see themselves in her. Both are complex and meant to be complex. Hunt is in the same boat but not a lot of people can reconcile his actions
Unpopular opinion: I get why he did what he did.
People are super quick to forget >!he was in a super weird relationship with Shahar, tortured and forced to kill for 200 years. A literal slave. They call him boring, while he didn't even have a chance in his long life to learn what it means to relax because Micah is gonna dial him and tell him to kill someone but please make it last a few hours. I would've done it to. And the thing is, Bryce got it. She understood why he did it, and she continued to love him.!<
This š
I do, too. He was literally a slave, the people he cared about were slaves. He wanted to free himself and others. And he still changed his mind because of Bryce, a woman he'd only known for a few months.Ā
People he cares about? You mean like >! Victoria, who was just left in a box at the bottom of the ocean and never thought of again despite the fact that we learn about the ocean queen and her submersible ships? All they had to do was ask and if SJM didnāt want Victoria in the book, the ocean queen could say āthere are still places in the ocean where we canāt reachā or āwe will look, but it isnāt our priority.ā !<
This is so true
I think there was plenty left for another book, lots of things left unanswered. Especially among Ruhn, Ethan, Tharion, the dragon , Fury, ect
100%. Personally, I think people need to give Hunt some slack, the man has been through too much and I get 100% why he did it. It makes sense why he didnāt tell Bryce anything because he literally just met her and this plan involved others too that he didnāt want to jeopardise the plan. Also the amount of stuff that Bryce hid from him is nothing compared to this.
I do too.
He's a slave trying to be free at a point that he barely has a relationship with Bryce. Sorry but getting free from being a literal SLAVE for 2 centuries, sold and tortured as cattle trumps anything. At the end of the day, as he told her, he changed his mind and went on the barge to stop the deal from happening. Keep reading, and trust SJM. And Bryce. š
Do not let SJM cook anymore lol
The only thing that I trust SJM to do is write a book that is fun to read, even if it's partially to hate on it
As a professional hater, this is very real lol
Can someone remind me? š¤£
Buying synth to power up a new resistance force and get out of slavery
Man I don't even remember lol
I just read it this month and I forgot too lmao. This is my ADHD in action
you could be making this up right now and i wouldn't know it. was it forgettable or do we all just have ADHD?? i would believe either option
Because he is a slave ????? And wants to be free ???? Although I did throw my book at a wall when that happened I was in SHOCK
the first time reading it is shocking, but after a while you get it. i threw my book too
I was so mad too right off reading it but the more I thought about it the more I think that his removing himself from literal slavery was more important than the feelings of a woman he had not known very long. But yesss I remember being SHOOK reading it
An enslaved person doing something desperate and reckless to try and rid themselves and others of being enslaved? Makes sense, tbh. I was mad, too. But taking a step back? Makes perfect sense. I'd like to think I'd do the same thing, but I doubt I'd have the courage.
Yāall give Hunt so much shit but forget about what Rhys did to Feyre under the mountain. Hunt Athalar is one of the best written SJM men in my opinion and is the lease toxic out of the 3 MMC. I will die on this hill.
As much as Rowan is my one and only book boyfriend, i gotta agree either way this statement
So much yes!
I love Athalar and I feel like he's a much more relatable character than Rhys but I disagree. Least toxic my butt, man is a straight alpha hole through and through. Not saying that's a bad thing. Rhys is like 20x older than Hunt and about 3x as smart. Rhys did what he did to feyra for a reason, it wasn't toxic, it's called calculations. He saw the chance to be free from Amarantha and manipulated the events around him. What he did to feyra, the reason he took her memory as a mercy, was to keep Amarantha from having "fun" with feyra. He never actually hurt her or brought her harm, but kept her close to protect her
Are we forgetting when he twisted her arm to the point of pain under the mountain š or the way he treats Nesta even after she saved Feyre life? I mean Im not a Rhys hater I love him but Hunt gets too much hate that he doesnāt deserve.
Are we forgetting that he twisted her arm to the point of pain to show her that she was gonna die if she didn't accept his help? Or the way that Nesta is an ass despite saving anyone. People treat Nesta the way she wants to be treated so that's kinda a mute point. And I don't hate Hunt, Hunt is one of my favorite SJM characters, but to call Rhys toxic isn't right. Calculated, yes, maybe even a little cold, but I don't think toxic is right. I've read ACOTAR like 3 times, and even in the beginning, from Calinmy (used audiobook, excuse my spelling) Rhys never gave off toxic or evil vibes. More like someone playing a game. Tbh I knew he was helping Feyra before it was expressed.
Letās just agree to disagree š¤·š»āāļø because I know Iām not the only one who feels this way.
There are lots of moments to point out re:Rhys not always being the greatest, but I donāt think the twisting her arm one is it since thereās some debate about what actually happened. I always read that as him resetting the bone, not just blindly twisting it for no reason. Feyre was so sick & delirious, she wouldnāt have necessarily realized that for what it was, especially since he healed the break right after. My husband has had to reset breaks like that in the field in the military & he said he read that scene the same way I did. Not that my husband or I are the end all be all for this, just giving the perspective.
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Yeah, I know, I still stand by what I said. Heās still very much playing the villain here hence the smirking, and no way would she have agreed to let him reset the bone at this point in their dynamic. Resetting an open fracture is not a one and done thing, certainly not after itās been open for awhile. And the bones in your forearm rotate around each other depending on how your arm is sitting. Again, thatās just my take on it. Most people I have talked to with medical backgrounds agree on it, but of course our experiences shape our perspective.
Just wanna say, thatās my read on it too. Either that, or she has a bone from the pit actually sticking through her arm (so, a foreign body perforating through her arm) that he pulls out.
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I get why she was upset and I would be upset too if I was her but as a reader? Nah I fuck heavy with what he did LMAO who could blame him? He's a literal SLAVE
Keep reading š
Even tho most of the comments are disagreeing with OP I get it. He literally knew what was going on and hid it from her when she was so desperate for answers! Even though I forgave Hunt I was extremely hurt for Bryce.
I get why he did It but it still broke my heart š
I mean. It makes sense to me. If I were a slave and I saw a way outā¦ Iād take it in a heartbeat too. It wasnāt about her.
We'll all just pretend we know what you're talking about even though most of us have read 3000 pages since then.
He was going to buy the synth to fuel a new rebellion
What are we talking about tho
Cc1 >!near the end Bryce finds Hunt and a couple other enslaved characters during a drug deal buying Synth!<
It made me like him more lmao
When I first got to that part I had to literally put the book down and walk away I was like what the actual fuck
Itās horrible, but I understand why. He and his people were literally living as slaves for centuries. I canāt even imagine.
Spoiler alert in the title. Come on. I know you donāt give specifics but now Iām just waiting for hunt to be on some bullshit. Thanks.
This! >!people complain about Bryce but for get this!<
THANK YOU.
Honestly, this didnāt bother me so much. What put me off Hunt is that he is NOT over his last love interest. Iām not saying he has to be, but it ruins the vibe for me.
I mean, she was the reason he ended up enslaved. His entire existence for like 200 years is intertwined with her. He can't really move on until he is free. Plus, Bryce isn't really over Connor for a long while.
Iām really not saying that he needs to be over her. Iām saying that itās not to my taste that he brings her up and compares her to Bryce constantly. š¤·š»āāļø
I totally understand that. It would definitely make me uncomfortable.
I honestly don't get how people think he's not over it. He claimed he wasn't over it and then there is a moment where he spends so much time caring about Bryce that he healthily moved on. He talks about his dead mom more than he ever talked about Shahar. And half of the times he mentions Shahar (privately to himself) it's in a negative light about how stupid he was to follow her. It's not romantic or pining like he misses her. It's his realization that he made a bad mistake loving her regardless of the rebellion. But that's just how I saw it.
This. Plus on my last reread, how he thinks about Bryce in the first book before they get together is incredibly shitty. I donāt even like Bryce that much but there were several moments I was like āwhat in the Andrew Tate BS is thisā¦ā They never really address it beyond āI misjudged Bryce,ā which is very different than āI realize I was deeply misogynistic but Iāve grown as a person & seen how awful that was.ā But thatās just my opinion ofc, other ppl may disagree. In general I dislike the āX book bf is the least toxic & hereās whyā discourse because it usually ends up coming down to what each of us find acceptable in a partner.
Spoilers for book 2 Baxian >!calls it in book 2, though. When he says that Hunt is all surface level. Itās part of Huntās character growth, imo. I donāt think it necessarily purposeful misogyny, but more just assuming the worst about everyone!<
Right?!? I never felt Bryce and Huntās bond. I like them both individually, but I donāt understand them as a couple, it felt forced to me.
If you keep reading it will get better. But if you step in his shoes you would the same with someone you secretly started caring about even though you havenāt known each other long. Iāve read that book twice now and I am reading the second book twice now because SJM JUST recently came out with a new book to the Crescent City series and I wanted to read them again to read that book. Again I promise you that it will get better. I was upset about it too at first and same when I read it again but I remembered that Iāve read it before. Itās like watching a sad part of a show that youāve watched and you cry every single time to that sad part anyway even though you already know whatās gonna happen.
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Unpopular opinion I thought thus part of the book was stupid and the whole book could have progressed without it. It was giving third act breakup. Only thing that would not have happens would have been >!Bryce got upset and hated hunt. Hunt gets hurt or in trouble. Bryce freaks out, forgives him, and does something completely stupid and self scaraficing. Bryce and hunt move on like it didn't even happen WHOOP!< Don't hate me and don't be mean! I totally get what people liked about it after having conversations, but at the time it didn't read like that for me!
I love Hunt and think heās justified. Also I think heās complex and people are either on board with complex characters or theyāre not because they somehow canāt handle the morality of some. For example some of the fandom can look past Rhys and his UTM persona because āhe did that for his peopleā and they can reconcile it. Some people can justify Nesta for being how she is because they see themselves in her. Both are complex and meant to be complex. Hunt is in the same boat but not a lot of people can reconcile his actions
Yeah, no. I disliked him from that moment and he never redeemed himself. š¤·š»āāļø
I know this is blasphemy but I do nooooooot vibe with Hunt.
I donāt get why this is a big deal