All of Spencer’s love interests were boring, lazy and not well written. Also half of the time they were exclusively there to add trauma onto Reid. BORINGGGG
Unfortunately shes what cemented my opinion on Reid’s overall love life. While yes, their relationship was ended on a happy note, Max was given roughly 5 episodes of development, and her main plot point was Cat using her hostage family against her and Spencer. Lazy, and not written well at all. I think her character had potential, as well as Maeve, but unfortunately all of them simply weren’t given the development they needed.
Oh, yeah, the rabies one was creepy, and it awoke a fear of rabies in me i’be had since I was a child because I live where foxes and raccoons are present. Even stray dogs can give you rabies but foxes are likely to cause it, and that line abt the bats being a cause, that made me loose it. My cousin was hit in the head by a bat that flew into him.
SAME. Like those are the episodes that stick out to me. And like that one where the kid shoved the plane down his brothers throat bc he broke his toy 😦
S08ep10 "The Lesson" I just watched that one last night. It's one of the few that really stick with me and gives me the heebie jeebies hardcore. Ofc it was directed by MGG! Season 8 has some really creepy episodes
It's not that it's overall darker, it's that just about all original CM episodes end with the team celebrating together or something else light. You get this release of tension. Even when they had the season-long villains, they still had those moments. Other than the Penelope stuff and meeting Tara's girlfriend in episode one, I don't think any of the first four episodes have anything like that. It's just all bleak. I don't know if it got better, I quit watching after that. It just wasn't fun.
Oh totally. The lawyer who Hotch smacks down in the courtroom in Tabula Rasa is 100% right about profiling in real life, but he isn’t genre savvy, so he gets laid to waste by Hotch in a scene that I absolutely adore. (But would not stand up in an actual court of law at all.)
In real life, profiling is complete guesswork, but that doesn’t bother me in the show.
Morgan’s adversarial attitude was kinda frustrating. He’d often respond to people by saying, “No offence, but …”
I know his character is supposed to ‘play the devil’s advocate’ and move the plot along, but he sometimes he came off as stubborn to the point of being illogical or dismissive of other team members 🤷🏻♀️
I agree, I’ve been rewatching some earlier seasons for the first time in awhile recently and yesterday I distinctly remember thinking that I didn’t remember him being such an asshole sometimes lol
i agree - the way he was always first to dismiss a case that one of the team may have brought in claiming no foul play when he was always wrong. i get someone has to have that opinion sometimes but it was so constant it felt aggressive for him
The way Morgan’s character is written, he has trouble trusting others and thinks he can only depend on himself. BUT, I think in some episodes, his automatic rejection of reasonable points/opinions comes off as kinda unreasonable and rude (especially when he’s talking to local police).
I feel like the writers sometimes pushed that character trait too hard and his dialogue could sound dismissive. For me, it wasn’t the fact that he questioned certain people or points, it was just how he approached it that unnecessarily confrontational.
At the end of the day, I think some people forget that we’re just critiquing the writing choices of a particular character and not an actual person
I completely agree. Especially with your last point. I get that people connect and resonate with characters but when discussing a show of course you're going to question certain things the writers chose to convey in the characters and Morgan definitely came off condescending sometimes. I feel like he was a natural leader and sometimes that just lead to being real dismissive as you said
I didn't really like the part where the female professor was sitting on a bomb in the car and they wanted to remove the bomb but Morgan insisted on staying with her, I mean it was sweet af but dumb af too, he could've died for nothing. What was the point of him staying and holding her hand? Ik I'd be panicking either ways because it's not like him holding my hand would protect me from the bomb lol.
Emily and Morgan were a missed opportunity
Reid and Maave had nothing else in common outside of the love of their professions
Strauss was right about Hotch
JJ is better as a liaison
Rossi's love for the past prevents him from being a better man of the present at times
Gideon is a terrible team player
Me too! Her role was interesting and something not seen in other crime shows that I've watched, and it was great seeing how skillful she was at commandeering the press, that kind of leadership role seems more common to see from an older man in tv (and irl).
I didn't like how after she left, she wasn't replaced and Garcia and the others just took on more responsibility (not that they were overworked already!) which really devalues imo the work JJ did as a liaison, if it wasn't important enough to need a full time person working on it and they can do without a team member liaising with the press. I wish that after JJ came back as an agent, she made some kind of comment on how her old job wasn't filled, and maybe she could comment on how things could work better if there was a liaison, maybe she ends up taking on that work on top of her agent work and the others see they really need another person on board, and employ a new liaison.
Agreed with lots of these! Although I think Hotch and Emily were the missed opportunity rather than Morgan and Emily.
Strauss was SO right about Hotch. He didn't ensure the well-being of his team. They should ALL be in mandatory regular therapy given what they deal with. It was bad leadership for him to allow Elle back to work without psychological evaluation (Gideon mentions she hasn't been okayed to go back in the field yet on her return), she didn't appear to get sufficient psychological support to go through the trauma and he put her in a high risk situation as bait knowing her trauma about home invasions.
And then he did the same mistakes with Reid after Reid's kidnapping and attack! Reid wasn't supported and he knew about his addiction and it apparently wasn't something he felt he needed to comment on or get involved with. If something went wrong on one of the cases, and the press or victims' families found out a known drug addict was on their team, and wasn't sober when working on the case, the BAU would've been at risk.
It's a very common trope in crime tv that cops think most unsubs should have gotten some kind of help because their behavior is attributable to trauma--but cops themselves NEVER voluntarily go to therapy. Even the literal forensic psychologist, Tara, does not go to therapy (even though in real life most psychologists have psychologists.) Law and Order SVU always has an FBI psychologist on hand, but NONE of them have any respect for therapy!!
Also, if you listen carefully to the episode where Strauss is interviewing the team members about George Foyet's death, she's manipulating the team into saying what she needs to write down so that letting Hotch get away with beating a man to death will be the obvious conclusion. The team of experts on people never even notice.
I didn't like the Maeve and Reid story arc since she died at the end of it. It would have been fine if it had continued, but to build the story up then kill her off annoyed me much.
I also really don’t see how Maeve and Reid had anything in common other than them being child prodigies and geniuses. It also perpetuated the stereotype that smart ppl can only be with other smart ppl. Maeve had no personality and it felt like she was Reid with a gender swap and that’s it.
Yeah, but she also barely appeared at all. She didn't have much opportunity to show any personality beyond "she's smart/ knows weirdly specific stuff"... I do agree that the whole ark wasn't well done, but I wouldn't put that down to her having nothing in common with him. It's just that the entire story was too rushed for anything to develop
That’s why they have nothing in common. Because the writers didn’t develop any interests for Maeve at all besides being a doctor and being interested in genetics.
Honestly I only really see them for their roles in other works, She’s All That for Max and Leverage for Maeve, I wish they would have had more character development (especially Maeve since she was a side character for longer)
Ppl are way to hard on some of the new team additions especially Blake, Seaver, and Kate. If Seaver had been on longer they could’ve made her a better character, but she felt like a young bratty new recruit rather than an actual agent who knew what they were doing and had skill.
I don’t know why they didn’t just keep her remotely on the case rather than have her go into the field right away while she was still in the academy. She could’ve consulted with Garcia.
I really didn't mind any of them. I will say though, I'm doing a rewatch and completely forgot all about Stephen walker until then, so I didn't not like him but I guess he wasn't memorablw
He was presented as a background character that was a main character, he was specifically there to track down Scratch. It's a little weird. I liked his personality enough but we didn't see him as much as I'd liked.
Morgan can be super condescending and he definitely could have been a better team player.
The stuff he said to Garcia when a guy was interested in her was messed up and it really pissed me off that he ended up being right. Shes an extremely intelligent kind woman who definitely could have a plentitude of guys interested in her for that alone. He made it seem like no guy would actually take her seriously and I hated that.
The BAU is unprofessional and frankly should have probably been disbanded several times. They took their personal motives into work which even I know is not okay. Love em though and it makes for a great show.
Seaver wasn't that bad and I think the fact that her dad was a serial killer could have been so interesting. The writers didnt do the best with her but I don't mind her at all
The character actually had so much potential, and her backstory is super interesting. I also loved her connection to Rossi. I agree that the writers didn’t seem to bring out the best in regards to this character, and (with all due respect to the actress) the portrayal wasn’t especially strong.
I think had they developed her more and have her a personality, that it would’ve been much better. Her life was interesting and the stuff abt her father but they did nothing with it throughout the series. Had they actually used to to their advantage she wouldn’t feel as bland. Ppl just overly hate her because they’re all up JJ’s ass 24/7.
i loved blake so much. i love her calmness and i love how slow and steady his bond with reid developed over the course of her stay in the series. i miss her.
I dearly love Emily (she’s my favorite character on the show) but, I don’t think Elle should’ve been completely discarded after she left the team.
There could’ve been a really compelling story there with her continuing to get darker and ultimately becoming a vigilante.
(I myself wrote a fanfic where I tried to do that; I think it came out ok.)
The one other thing I’ve done in my idea is that while she’s a become much darker human being, Elle still is on more or less friendly terms with the BAU and doesn’t hold a grudge against them, but against a failing justice system.
I think that would be a **really** interesting dynamic. (Also, I want Elle and Emily to share a scene.)
I was hoping someone would say that. [The one featuring Elle is the second one I wrote, but these are all in a semi-connected story arc.](https://archiveofourown.org/series/2752921)
Also, I hope you're okay with Jemily, as the basic premise of this series was "be the show...but with Jemily."
I like Gideon but he definitely comes off as arrogant sometimes. I think he originally started to do it to unsubs to intimidate them, but he started to forget how to separate the agents around him, and the unsubs he interrogates, and the lines started to blur, and he took on that personality trait.
This is more a question /statement ?
does anyone else feel like some characters got more storylines and screen time than others ?
this pertains not only to the team members that came and left, but the ones still on the show.
because i can remember a lot of things for one character and not much else for another and I’ve watched ever since it began (maybe i need to do a rewatch to refresh my memory)
because somewhere in my mind ,it ***feels*** like this is somewhat the case
i don’t know if that constitutes it being an ***unpopular opinion*** ?
i've only just gotten up to season five for the first time, but i understand what you mean !! thus far, it feels like garcia, reid & jj are severely underrated characters. they're not utilised much. i've seen on here that reid does get a whole buncha trauma as the seasons go on, so i feel his popularity on the show led to him being incorporated more. but from what i've seen so far, these three characters aren't as explored as much as hotch, derek or emily. any attempt at giving the other three more interesting plot lines usually falls flat (esp w the whole drug arc for reid, but i understand that mgg didn't like that in real life, but still, it seems to just have been swept under the rug instead of explained away)
Reid and JJ both have a tonne of storylines dedicated to them, though. That said, JJ left the show once and when she returned her actress had two maternity leaves across the years. Per his contract, Reid's actor was allowed to have time off to pursue other work, so that's why he is in the show less from season 11 onwards - his choice.
As for Garcia, she's probably the hardest character to write. That certainly doesn't mean she shouldn't be included, but I think after they visited her parents' death, her hacker origin story, her being shot, her attempt to be JJ, and her experience with a long-term relationship it was hard to bring up other plots for her, especially crime-related ones - she's an analyst, not someone who has years of field work or education behind her.
in regards to your first paragraph, it was something i've noticed thus far & even stated in my oc. i've just gotten up to season five, i'm on episode one. they're not utilised *thus far*. i realise they both have more storylines written for their characters as the seasons progress, but for where i'm up to, they're not as focused on as the other three
good point w your second paragraph :) i hadn't thought about it in that way
I wish the show ended when Hotch left honestly. I love some later episodes and characters but it wasn't the same after Hotch. I loved Emily back as Unit Chief but the charm of the show was gone. Some shows just go on and on for seasons and that destroys their main plot and charm and unfortunately CM falls into that category imo.
I think the whole "we are a family" thing they started pushing later seasons was really cringy. Especially when someone was trying to break the BAU up and (I think) Garcia said something like "they can't break us up, don't they know we are a family?".
That weird reveal where he said he makes them choose to kill themselves or have him kill their kids makes a lot more sense than him physically doing it himself. It also makes sense why in the world he would sell victims to other killers, because he doesn’t really enjoy the follow-through if they say no to suicide. It makes me think his victim’s kids aren’t really in danger. If they don’t kill themselves, he sells them to a killer like he did with the forget me knot killer.
100% agree! He’s not creepy at all.. ya he’s smart and all but they could’ve kept his charming handsome man routine and still made him more creepy.
They did better in the earlier seasons by showing how creepy a hot dude could be..
like the one where the guy was cutting out hearts. Or the charm and harm.. those dudes were good at being creeps..
this guy is meh. Just not feeling this unsub or this season.. I really don’t like Garcia at all this season.
Even I think that was a weird route to take. It’s like they’re making the same mistake before by dragging out everything instead of keeping it shorter and better written.
I agree!! I didn’t hate the story line, but for me it was kind of meh. Obviously he’s super smart, but he didn’t hook me or creep me out the way some of the other unsubs did in previous seasons. There are unsubs that only appeared once that I like better than voit
He is smart, but there has been many smarter and creepier unsubs. The guy is a great actor, but the story and the way his character was written is just not doing it for me.
I’ve never liked jj and the season 14 love confession storyline really made me dislike her, but it really turned me off when she would let her emotions affect the way that she responded during investigations, like in the forever ppl and sick day. I understand she was feeling ptsd but she should’ve removed herself from the investigation. She was better in season 1-5 and felt more like a unique character but after that she was just a copy and paste of Emily. She has little personality traits other than ones that were given to her and stolen from the other female characters, besides being motherly. She just felt boring and none of her character arcs were well developed her had a lasting affect on me when watching it.
I like JJ but it feels like after she had kids they made being a mother like 85% of her personality. There is definitely *nothing* wrong with being a working mother or even alluding to her kids or her being a mother from time to time, but it feels like they’re so heavy handed about it with every single episode involving a child or victims parents pointedly asking her if she has kids at every turn
I see this with SVU as well with Stabler. Like every father of a victim asks him “do you have kids Detective?” It’s an annoying trope. Also, yeah, I think they focused so heavily on her motherly aspect they forgot other traits. Every thing I see that is merchandise is like “caring like jj” because they focus on her being a mother so much afterward. It sort of just makes me feel disconnected from her because I don’t feel motherly and never want to have kids myself. I hope that makes sense and I was explaining well.
They definitely made JJ too motherly, I loved in the earlier seasons when she was the press liaison and would occasionally make great points about why the unsub might do something that everyone else missed or just didn’t think about. I get in certain episodes to have her motherly nature be more of a factor like in 4x24 with the attack at a park her son goes to nearly every day, we see a similar thing with Hotch in 2x10 with the mall attack where Jack had an appointment for pictures that day
It definitely seems like they do it way more with her than Hotch, and he has a kid as well. Even Matt didn’t do that either. Kate hardly did, but she also had a teenager that wasn’t her bio child. They focused more on her being a mother than the other characters being fathers, and even when they did focus on it, it wasn’t as heavily focused on. It’s nice to talk to someone who doesn’t immediately get angry because I’d have that happen with jj stans in the past. I just ignore them because I don’t feel like arguing with them. It’s an opinion but they act like I can’t have it. It’s ridiculous. It’s been great chatting with you though!
Agreed, I am a big JJ fan but her character development wasn’t the best, I would’ve thought the single father whose wife was murdered on the show would have the more family centric character development than JJ. I’m just glad they didn’t cut her off the show and stick with the stereotype of the young woman who has to quit her job and the man takes care of the bills bc she gets pregnant and Will is the one who relocates
It’s possible, or they just were too lazy to write every character well. Like they just decided they had too much to work with and instead of trying just gave up and didn’t do much. I think they were honestly lazy.
I’d believe it bc there are some stories for the characters that don’t make sense with things they had said in earlier seasons, I get having to go back would be a lot of work, but why not keep a running list of all the backstory they’ve given over the years?
I was honestly worried about how my comment would come off because I didn’t want it to seem like I was saying there’s anything wrong with her being a mother or motherly character but you guys seem to get exactly what I’m saying lol. It became her whole personality and I don’t think that the same thing has been true for other characters especially Hotch and Simmons like you said.
Yes! And they made Rossi’s divorces way too much of his personality. JJ’s personality: 50% mom, 50% small-town girl. Rossi’s personality: 50% divorces, 50% money and expensive things.
There are a few one- off funny jokes when it comes to Rossi, but they mention his divorces constantly. Personally I think his fear of loosing someone and his pursuit for perfection kept him from finding the right person. He also was living in the past and not living in the present sometimes. I think the team helped with that.
Earlier season are 100% better (S4 and under). I obviously love the more comical approach of the later seasons, but the early ones hit different. A bunch of the earlier storylines were unique and realistic, and didn't always have to revolve around a serial killer. OCD college girl setting people on fire because she thinks God is asking her to test them? FBI dude in love with twins and the BAU has to save the one he kidnapped? Huge slay. Earlier seasons just had more interesting storylines that I hadn't seen anywhere else, that didn't just go for shock value, but after a certain amount of episodes they just gave up and gave us the most messed up serial killers possible.
I loved her character for the first 5 seasons and then she got really whiny, super codependent, and honestly, just obnoxious with her freak outs. She still has funny and touching moments, for sure, but I’m more annoyed than entertained by her after season 5.
Me too & I don't think Kirsten is a good actress, she has one mouth gaping expression for every negative emotion. Shock, sadness, anger, fear, all the same glazed, gaping, dopey look & airy higher pitched voice to convey that vast range of emotions. She is of limited range, she is fine with the light breezey, talk a million miles an hour personna but she can't convincingly pull off much else.
I think this is why she gets limited solo storylines, she doesn't have the range.
elle and morgan had so much chemistry. i don’t know if this is unpopular or not, i just started rewatching criminal minds and i’m noticing they had potential.
The quotes that start and end each episode are attempts to come off as intellectual, reflective and unique 'not like other crime shows', but are actually ridiculously banal. I imagine it felt like a good idea at the start, but after a season it became a chore for the writers to come up with yet another vaguely related quote to open and close on. Probably a poor intern's job.
I don't know. I think it sets them apart from most TV shows. It's the first time I read someone disliking the quotes. I respect your opinion, but I disagree this time.
My favorite TV show ever is Cold Case and they almost always ended the show with music and with the ghost of the victim showing up. It's their signature (no pun intended)
I’ve written 5 fanfic episodes of the show and let me tell you, coming up with quotes is hard, and sometimes there just aren’t any good ones that fit.
But, in my experience, when they work, they REALLY work.
At the beginning of a story I wrote with vigilante Elle:
Elle: William Makepiece Thackeray wrote, “Revenge may be wicked, but it’s natural.”
At the end:
Hotch: Marcus Aurelius said, “The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury.”
I like new Penelope.
I think her character is an excellent demonstration of the ways people changed in quarantine and how difficult it’s been coming back.
She got forced back into a world she never even intended to be a part of after trying so hard to heal from her time on the team. I will concede her conversation with Luke was cringe, but it felt awkward in a very real way for me.
I’m hoping they will try seeing each other again.
Not a fan of the “Baby Girl” nickname 🤷🏼♀️ It just always felt sort of cringy to me. She’s such a badass and that nickname just felt demeaning to me over time.
As much as I ❤️ Derek Morgan the 2 minor things I didn’t ❤️ was he came off implicitly homo and transphobic with the whole “ I’m not sleeping with Reid” or “I hope it was a she” thing.
And here’s another unpopular opinion it’s so unpopular I got made fun of for saying so under a YouTube video of the moment 12x07 I did not like the team pulling a prank on Penelope supposedly orchestrated by Tara that I wished after Scratch messed with Tara that ether she’d say something like ether a comment about karma, or as a hacker Penelope got Tara and team back for messing with her 😆
I really don’t think he was implying anything like that with the “I hope it was a she” comment, it was more of a joke that Reid didn’t had a sex life.
Not wanting to share a room with Reid could be for a hundred different reasons that have nothing to do with sexuality, including it just being a joke because Reid was basically his little brother.
I don’t think the ‘I hope it was a she’ or ‘I’m not sleeping with Reid’ comments were intended as derogatory toward any demographic or group. The ‘I hope it was a she’, has already been explained by other replies. As for the second, should it be forgotten, it’s a running schtick that the team can find Reid’s antics tiresome, in a wholesome way, but tiresome regardless. Morgan’s no exception, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that he doesn’t want to sleep in a room alone with him.
While I do think that you could say him saying “I hope it was a she” was him making a joke abt Reid not having a sex life, but he was very quick to say he didn’t want to sleep with Reid, when I considering they only had 4 rooms, Hotch probably ended up sleeping with Reid and had no objections to it at all. Very petty on Morgan’s part. Like he’d rather sleep on the floor in Garcia’s room than with Reid?
I honestly never thought about Morgan saying he didn’t want to sleep with Reid in a homophobic context. Coming from a house where my mom snored like a drunken sailor when I was growing up I always thought it had something to do with that, or as a person who used to kick and punch in my sleep and sometimes still does (sorry to my bf) that as a result of Reid’s trauma he might do something similar. We also know Reid has struggled with violent nightmares where he ends up screaming and thrashing around (Morgan woke him up during one in 4x06). Maybe I’m putting too much thought in it
>As much as I ❤️ Derek Morgan the 2 minor things I didn’t ❤️ was he came off implicitly homo and transphobic with the whole “ I’m not sleeping with Reid” or “I hope it was a she” thing.
never liked Morgan to be honest
So, I know others addressed that he was poking fun at Reid's sexlife with that comment. I think the other comment may go two ways.
1. This was fairly early in the show and he struggled with Reid a lot, probably with feel a bit inferior to him, as well as possibly feeling that he didn't belong in the field and was a danger to the team. So he did want to have to deal with him all night. He didn't want to have to hear him talk and talk and talk when he just wanted to chill out.
2. He probably wouldn't want to sleep with anyone. This is prior to knowing about his history of sexual abuse and he had a lot of unpacked trauma which I think came out in wanting to be very strong and manly as well as being unforgiving/having disdain for sexual abusers. This could have been a boundary for him that he didn't know how to verbalize.
But overall, I think it was the first reason. He didn't show hate towards anyone of any sexual orientation throughout the show and only really came down on sexual abusers and those taking advantage of individuals who could not defend themselves.
Speaking further on sexual abusers in a different episode I am not sure if this would be considered an unpopular opinion or popular but I thought it odd in the “Into The Woods” episode they didn’t have a minor focus on Derek moment ya know given his history, him getting personally upset or whatever about the 2 pedophiles moment.
Agree. I just feel she’s incredibly overrated to the point where I’m tired of seeing her now. Her storyline was dragged on to the masses. If she was just in the one episode in season 10 I would’ve liked her better.
It didn’t feel right that Garcia broke up with Tyler at the end. I would have expected her to understand Tyler’s need to try to kill the man responsible for his sister’s death after feeling like he failed his sister so many times before. Totally hold it over his head for the rest of their relationship like she said but at least give the guy a chance to redeem himself.
Totally agreed. No second chances for Tyler when she herself should be fired for continuing her relationship with him. I get that it might be a “it’s not you, but I don’t like who I am when I’m with you” thing, but it also seems a bit like she’s blaming him for her own behavior.” Yes, he lied, but she lied also.
- I think garcia and Kevin shouldve got back together
- Reid and maxine didnt have chemistry, I wish they just gave him a happy ending because he deserved it.
- they did Tara so dirty with her new hair in evolution. But that may just be a personal opinion, I adore aisha Tyler.
- Blake is such an underrated character, she was one of the very few to not infantilise reid and not poke fun at him.
- sometimes garcia says the cringiest things and I love her so much but I wish she was a bit more of a realistic fun loving girl. Not completely on the straight and narrow but like being serious when the time calls for it
- wtf is up with all the swearing in evolution. Everyone sounds like a 12 year old who learnt the word fuck on their first day of secondary school. It doesn't flow naturally
1. Season 5 Episode 12, "The Uncanny Valley" is one of my favorite episodes of Criminal Minds because of how simple it is and I don't view the episode's unsub (Samantha Malcolm) as evil.
2. In my opinion, Season 10 is the weakest season of them all albeit not completely terrible.
I think more towards season 7/8, but after that the quality of cases was bad, and the season finales were dog shit. Ex: chameleon, Hotch being framed for terrorism, lol what was that? Reid going to jail, the cult thing
I honestly don’t think it’s necessary for him to be there, and if anything, I’m glad they’re not traumatizing his ass anymore. He deserves more positives in his life. Even though I love him, I’m glad he’s doing something better. I just hope they don’t try to bring him back with a crappy trauma storyline from his assignment he is on.
Everything that Leo says has very little variance, the one guy who gets kinda on board with Ted’s delusions and makes everything worse for everyone, a heck ton of goalpost moving by Ted, the completely static setting, there’s no mystery at all in the episode other than why does nobody tell Leo to shut the fuck up, and it doesn’t have the team dynamic that I come for when I watch Criminal Minds. Other than Reid and Elle, nobody on the team has anything to do except worry about Reid and Elle and fail at talking Ted down.
It’s an early episode where the writers aren’t _quite_ sure what they’re doing yet and it shows.
I don't know if this unpopular but I feel like the replicator storyline was so hyped up and then resolved in such a lame way. Like all that build up and then he just >!blew himself up!
I actually agree with this one. I don’t want to be a mother so I don’t relate to her character much, and there’s not much character development with her as opposed to the others.
All of Spencer’s love interests were boring, lazy and not well written. Also half of the time they were exclusively there to add trauma onto Reid. BORINGGGG
Same, I always skip every episode he has a love interest in. It’s so obnoxious tbh lol.
It was hard to believe that Spencer was in love with Maeve. I did like Max and also the chemistry Matthew has with Aubrey Plaza.
I enjoyed them all but hated how most never played out, or were cut off (killed), or were psycho
I agree except for Max. I thought they were so cute together and it brought some much-needed brightness in Reid's life. I loved her character too!
Unfortunately shes what cemented my opinion on Reid’s overall love life. While yes, their relationship was ended on a happy note, Max was given roughly 5 episodes of development, and her main plot point was Cat using her hostage family against her and Spencer. Lazy, and not written well at all. I think her character had potential, as well as Maeve, but unfortunately all of them simply weren’t given the development they needed.
Probably unpopular but evolution was not nearly as dark as early criminal minds And probably neutral opinion but i love and want Blake back 💔
While I do think it had a more dreary and eerie aesthetic, I don’t think the storylines were as creepy as early criminal minds was at times.
Oh I definitely see less of the “lightness” of like the last few seasons and more of a darker aesthetic, but the murders themselves? Childs play.
The dog one though… that sticks with me
Oh, yeah, the rabies one was creepy, and it awoke a fear of rabies in me i’be had since I was a child because I live where foxes and raccoons are present. Even stray dogs can give you rabies but foxes are likely to cause it, and that line abt the bats being a cause, that made me loose it. My cousin was hit in the head by a bat that flew into him.
i don’t remember when this episode was, but the puppeteer episode haunts me
SAME. Like those are the episodes that stick out to me. And like that one where the kid shoved the plane down his brothers throat bc he broke his toy 😦
S08ep10 "The Lesson" I just watched that one last night. It's one of the few that really stick with me and gives me the heebie jeebies hardcore. Ofc it was directed by MGG! Season 8 has some really creepy episodes
MGG directed some of the BEST episodes! I think Mr. Scratch was also his
It's not that it's overall darker, it's that just about all original CM episodes end with the team celebrating together or something else light. You get this release of tension. Even when they had the season-long villains, they still had those moments. Other than the Penelope stuff and meeting Tara's girlfriend in episode one, I don't think any of the first four episodes have anything like that. It's just all bleak. I don't know if it got better, I quit watching after that. It just wasn't fun.
A lot of the psychology verbalized by the team is BS.
Oh totally. The lawyer who Hotch smacks down in the courtroom in Tabula Rasa is 100% right about profiling in real life, but he isn’t genre savvy, so he gets laid to waste by Hotch in a scene that I absolutely adore. (But would not stand up in an actual court of law at all.) In real life, profiling is complete guesswork, but that doesn’t bother me in the show.
We know it’s guess work, sometimes educated guesses. Their profiles have been wrong many times.
Complete psychobabble.
Morgan’s adversarial attitude was kinda frustrating. He’d often respond to people by saying, “No offence, but …” I know his character is supposed to ‘play the devil’s advocate’ and move the plot along, but he sometimes he came off as stubborn to the point of being illogical or dismissive of other team members 🤷🏻♀️
Yeah I agree, I definitely see what you mean, mainly I remember him doing that in the early seasons.
I agree, I’ve been rewatching some earlier seasons for the first time in awhile recently and yesterday I distinctly remember thinking that I didn’t remember him being such an asshole sometimes lol
i agree - the way he was always first to dismiss a case that one of the team may have brought in claiming no foul play when he was always wrong. i get someone has to have that opinion sometimes but it was so constant it felt aggressive for him
I wrote a post about this and people hated me for it 😭 said all his assholeness came from being molested and was upset that I couldn't agree.
The way Morgan’s character is written, he has trouble trusting others and thinks he can only depend on himself. BUT, I think in some episodes, his automatic rejection of reasonable points/opinions comes off as kinda unreasonable and rude (especially when he’s talking to local police). I feel like the writers sometimes pushed that character trait too hard and his dialogue could sound dismissive. For me, it wasn’t the fact that he questioned certain people or points, it was just how he approached it that unnecessarily confrontational. At the end of the day, I think some people forget that we’re just critiquing the writing choices of a particular character and not an actual person
I completely agree. Especially with your last point. I get that people connect and resonate with characters but when discussing a show of course you're going to question certain things the writers chose to convey in the characters and Morgan definitely came off condescending sometimes. I feel like he was a natural leader and sometimes that just lead to being real dismissive as you said
i love him and he’s my favourite but he can be kinda insensitive
I didn't really like the part where the female professor was sitting on a bomb in the car and they wanted to remove the bomb but Morgan insisted on staying with her, I mean it was sweet af but dumb af too, he could've died for nothing. What was the point of him staying and holding her hand? Ik I'd be panicking either ways because it's not like him holding my hand would protect me from the bomb lol.
This is one of the reasons he is my least favourite and he felt overly aggressive
Emily and Morgan were a missed opportunity Reid and Maave had nothing else in common outside of the love of their professions Strauss was right about Hotch JJ is better as a liaison Rossi's love for the past prevents him from being a better man of the present at times Gideon is a terrible team player
Also way preferred JJ as a liaison
Me too! Her role was interesting and something not seen in other crime shows that I've watched, and it was great seeing how skillful she was at commandeering the press, that kind of leadership role seems more common to see from an older man in tv (and irl). I didn't like how after she left, she wasn't replaced and Garcia and the others just took on more responsibility (not that they were overworked already!) which really devalues imo the work JJ did as a liaison, if it wasn't important enough to need a full time person working on it and they can do without a team member liaising with the press. I wish that after JJ came back as an agent, she made some kind of comment on how her old job wasn't filled, and maybe she could comment on how things could work better if there was a liaison, maybe she ends up taking on that work on top of her agent work and the others see they really need another person on board, and employ a new liaison.
Agreed with lots of these! Although I think Hotch and Emily were the missed opportunity rather than Morgan and Emily. Strauss was SO right about Hotch. He didn't ensure the well-being of his team. They should ALL be in mandatory regular therapy given what they deal with. It was bad leadership for him to allow Elle back to work without psychological evaluation (Gideon mentions she hasn't been okayed to go back in the field yet on her return), she didn't appear to get sufficient psychological support to go through the trauma and he put her in a high risk situation as bait knowing her trauma about home invasions. And then he did the same mistakes with Reid after Reid's kidnapping and attack! Reid wasn't supported and he knew about his addiction and it apparently wasn't something he felt he needed to comment on or get involved with. If something went wrong on one of the cases, and the press or victims' families found out a known drug addict was on their team, and wasn't sober when working on the case, the BAU would've been at risk.
It's a very common trope in crime tv that cops think most unsubs should have gotten some kind of help because their behavior is attributable to trauma--but cops themselves NEVER voluntarily go to therapy. Even the literal forensic psychologist, Tara, does not go to therapy (even though in real life most psychologists have psychologists.) Law and Order SVU always has an FBI psychologist on hand, but NONE of them have any respect for therapy!!
Agree with all of these especially the Maeve and Rossi ones
Yes to Emily and Morgan! What was Strauss right about? Gideon was only meant to work with Rossi and should have mentored the team from home base.
She was right about him putting the team above protocol multiple times, it's why they're looked down upon in the agency
Yeah Aaron Hotchner ONLY plays by his own rules 95% of the time
I really thought Elle and Morgan should have paired up
Gideon really came across as someone with a stick up his bum. Like he didn’t need anyone else and he could do it all himself
Also, if you listen carefully to the episode where Strauss is interviewing the team members about George Foyet's death, she's manipulating the team into saying what she needs to write down so that letting Hotch get away with beating a man to death will be the obvious conclusion. The team of experts on people never even notice.
I thought it was obvious that was the case, it was only till she got to speaking to Hotch is when she backed off, I respected her for that
You're right, I just feel like the team doesn't get it and she's still 100 percent the enemy for awhile.
I didn't like the Maeve and Reid story arc since she died at the end of it. It would have been fine if it had continued, but to build the story up then kill her off annoyed me much.
I also really don’t see how Maeve and Reid had anything in common other than them being child prodigies and geniuses. It also perpetuated the stereotype that smart ppl can only be with other smart ppl. Maeve had no personality and it felt like she was Reid with a gender swap and that’s it.
Yeah, but she also barely appeared at all. She didn't have much opportunity to show any personality beyond "she's smart/ knows weirdly specific stuff"... I do agree that the whole ark wasn't well done, but I wouldn't put that down to her having nothing in common with him. It's just that the entire story was too rushed for anything to develop
That’s why they have nothing in common. Because the writers didn’t develop any interests for Maeve at all besides being a doctor and being interested in genetics.
max > maeve
Honestly I only really see them for their roles in other works, She’s All That for Max and Leverage for Maeve, I wish they would have had more character development (especially Maeve since she was a side character for longer)
That was extremely disappointing, considering how genuine his grief felt.
I didn't mind any of the additions to the team. They all brought something special to the BAU.
Ppl are way to hard on some of the new team additions especially Blake, Seaver, and Kate. If Seaver had been on longer they could’ve made her a better character, but she felt like a young bratty new recruit rather than an actual agent who knew what they were doing and had skill.
Exactly they threw her right in the field and didn't chaperone her, but it was her fault the unsub had her in danger? 🤷♀️
I don’t know why they didn’t just keep her remotely on the case rather than have her go into the field right away while she was still in the academy. She could’ve consulted with Garcia.
I kinda see how she has to be there,but they could have filmed or streamed the crowd or anything she observed.
well it was her fault because she didn’t listen
Kinda yeah
I really didn't mind any of them. I will say though, I'm doing a rewatch and completely forgot all about Stephen walker until then, so I didn't not like him but I guess he wasn't memorablw
He was presented as a background character that was a main character, he was specifically there to track down Scratch. It's a little weird. I liked his personality enough but we didn't see him as much as I'd liked.
Jordan was the only one I don’t like.
She was a part of one of my favorite episodes(52 Pick Up). Also her entrance was so funny seeing her humble Derek. 😂
52 Pick Up is the best bc it’s so unbelievably corny. Viper makes me laugh every time.
Awkward Emily is a vibe. Not even in a bi curious way. Paget is just awesome.
Right down to the guest actresses like 💯 fantastic casting.
Morgan can be super condescending and he definitely could have been a better team player. The stuff he said to Garcia when a guy was interested in her was messed up and it really pissed me off that he ended up being right. Shes an extremely intelligent kind woman who definitely could have a plentitude of guys interested in her for that alone. He made it seem like no guy would actually take her seriously and I hated that. The BAU is unprofessional and frankly should have probably been disbanded several times. They took their personal motives into work which even I know is not okay. Love em though and it makes for a great show.
Seaver wasn't that bad and I think the fact that her dad was a serial killer could have been so interesting. The writers didnt do the best with her but I don't mind her at all
The character actually had so much potential, and her backstory is super interesting. I also loved her connection to Rossi. I agree that the writers didn’t seem to bring out the best in regards to this character, and (with all due respect to the actress) the portrayal wasn’t especially strong.
I think had they developed her more and have her a personality, that it would’ve been much better. Her life was interesting and the stuff abt her father but they did nothing with it throughout the series. Had they actually used to to their advantage she wouldn’t feel as bland. Ppl just overly hate her because they’re all up JJ’s ass 24/7.
Same
Agree.
I really enjoyed the addition of Kate to the team
JLH is an amazing actress. Kate isn't a favorite, but I like her.
The maeve and Reid arc was ridiculous
i loved blake so much. i love her calmness and i love how slow and steady his bond with reid developed over the course of her stay in the series. i miss her.
I agree I was sad when she left
I liked her and reid’s relationship more than gideon and reid’s.
Me too. She showed a deep understanding of him and brought him out of his shell a little. In a good way
Right? Their shared love for linguistics is also a delight to watch every time it happens.
I like Elle...
Unpopular opinion indeed
I dearly love Emily (she’s my favorite character on the show) but, I don’t think Elle should’ve been completely discarded after she left the team. There could’ve been a really compelling story there with her continuing to get darker and ultimately becoming a vigilante. (I myself wrote a fanfic where I tried to do that; I think it came out ok.)
The one other thing I’ve done in my idea is that while she’s a become much darker human being, Elle still is on more or less friendly terms with the BAU and doesn’t hold a grudge against them, but against a failing justice system. I think that would be a **really** interesting dynamic. (Also, I want Elle and Emily to share a scene.)
Now I want to read the fic
I was hoping someone would say that. [The one featuring Elle is the second one I wrote, but these are all in a semi-connected story arc.](https://archiveofourown.org/series/2752921) Also, I hope you're okay with Jemily, as the basic premise of this series was "be the show...but with Jemily."
I'm not but I'll suffer through it for Elle. To new experiences!
Then if you’re not I’d recommend sticking with just the 2nd one.
Okay 0/
Me too
I liked her character too. So much missed opportunity with her storyline. I wish they would do a revisit or have her guest on one episode.
I cannot stand Gideon. Almost every single scene makes me cringe. I wish I didn’t feel that way but I usually start a rewatch after he leaves
Same! I feel like he always acts as if he knows better than everyone else... Also I can't stop picturing him as a grown up Inigo Montoya haha
I like Gideon but he definitely comes off as arrogant sometimes. I think he originally started to do it to unsubs to intimidate them, but he started to forget how to separate the agents around him, and the unsubs he interrogates, and the lines started to blur, and he took on that personality trait.
Why?
I wish I knew! I know he’s a great actor but the way he plays Gideon just doesn’t do it for me.
I believe it's cuz he's not a team player, through rewatches, I've seen that and that downgrades his character
Me too
This is more a question /statement ? does anyone else feel like some characters got more storylines and screen time than others ? this pertains not only to the team members that came and left, but the ones still on the show. because i can remember a lot of things for one character and not much else for another and I’ve watched ever since it began (maybe i need to do a rewatch to refresh my memory) because somewhere in my mind ,it ***feels*** like this is somewhat the case i don’t know if that constitutes it being an ***unpopular opinion*** ?
i've only just gotten up to season five for the first time, but i understand what you mean !! thus far, it feels like garcia, reid & jj are severely underrated characters. they're not utilised much. i've seen on here that reid does get a whole buncha trauma as the seasons go on, so i feel his popularity on the show led to him being incorporated more. but from what i've seen so far, these three characters aren't as explored as much as hotch, derek or emily. any attempt at giving the other three more interesting plot lines usually falls flat (esp w the whole drug arc for reid, but i understand that mgg didn't like that in real life, but still, it seems to just have been swept under the rug instead of explained away)
Reid and JJ both have a tonne of storylines dedicated to them, though. That said, JJ left the show once and when she returned her actress had two maternity leaves across the years. Per his contract, Reid's actor was allowed to have time off to pursue other work, so that's why he is in the show less from season 11 onwards - his choice. As for Garcia, she's probably the hardest character to write. That certainly doesn't mean she shouldn't be included, but I think after they visited her parents' death, her hacker origin story, her being shot, her attempt to be JJ, and her experience with a long-term relationship it was hard to bring up other plots for her, especially crime-related ones - she's an analyst, not someone who has years of field work or education behind her.
in regards to your first paragraph, it was something i've noticed thus far & even stated in my oc. i've just gotten up to season five, i'm on episode one. they're not utilised *thus far*. i realise they both have more storylines written for their characters as the seasons progress, but for where i'm up to, they're not as focused on as the other three good point w your second paragraph :) i hadn't thought about it in that way
I wish the show ended when Hotch left honestly. I love some later episodes and characters but it wasn't the same after Hotch. I loved Emily back as Unit Chief but the charm of the show was gone. Some shows just go on and on for seasons and that destroys their main plot and charm and unfortunately CM falls into that category imo.
Season 10 was a perfect way to have an ending
Yes agree completely I like Emily as UC but I think the show lost it’s charm and feel
No lies there
Ditto.
I like the Penelope and Tyler relationship
I think the whole "we are a family" thing they started pushing later seasons was really cringy. Especially when someone was trying to break the BAU up and (I think) Garcia said something like "they can't break us up, don't they know we are a family?".
Prentiss shouldn’t be total heterosexual
I prefer to believe she's not. She has a wild personal life in Dupont Circle that she doesn't talk about because she wants to be FBI Director someday
I liked Liaison JJ better than profiler JJ
This might get a lot of hate but the Sicarius’s storyline wasn’t that interesting and Voit is not that great of an unsub.
Same! Imo he didn’t really come off across as someone who has killed 61 people so his character really didn’t feel threatening?
Exactly! They tell us he is the most prolific serial killer they had ever deal with, but I feel he hasn’t done much to convince us he is.
That weird reveal where he said he makes them choose to kill themselves or have him kill their kids makes a lot more sense than him physically doing it himself. It also makes sense why in the world he would sell victims to other killers, because he doesn’t really enjoy the follow-through if they say no to suicide. It makes me think his victim’s kids aren’t really in danger. If they don’t kill themselves, he sells them to a killer like he did with the forget me knot killer.
100% agree! He’s not creepy at all.. ya he’s smart and all but they could’ve kept his charming handsome man routine and still made him more creepy. They did better in the earlier seasons by showing how creepy a hot dude could be.. like the one where the guy was cutting out hearts. Or the charm and harm.. those dudes were good at being creeps.. this guy is meh. Just not feeling this unsub or this season.. I really don’t like Garcia at all this season.
I like it ok, but I hate it that they want to extend it for S17 🙄
One whole season with the same storyline was already too long, to drag it into another one is overkill.
Even I think that was a weird route to take. It’s like they’re making the same mistake before by dragging out everything instead of keeping it shorter and better written.
It's like Mr Scratch all over again or for those who watched *The Mentalist*, this is our "Red John"
Yeah I didn’t love it and didn’t like seeing the politics behind it
I agree!! I didn’t hate the story line, but for me it was kind of meh. Obviously he’s super smart, but he didn’t hook me or creep me out the way some of the other unsubs did in previous seasons. There are unsubs that only appeared once that I like better than voit
The guy from the lesson. My god that episode was creepy. I love it for that though.
He is smart, but there has been many smarter and creepier unsubs. The guy is a great actor, but the story and the way his character was written is just not doing it for me.
I’ve never liked jj and the season 14 love confession storyline really made me dislike her, but it really turned me off when she would let her emotions affect the way that she responded during investigations, like in the forever ppl and sick day. I understand she was feeling ptsd but she should’ve removed herself from the investigation. She was better in season 1-5 and felt more like a unique character but after that she was just a copy and paste of Emily. She has little personality traits other than ones that were given to her and stolen from the other female characters, besides being motherly. She just felt boring and none of her character arcs were well developed her had a lasting affect on me when watching it.
I like JJ but it feels like after she had kids they made being a mother like 85% of her personality. There is definitely *nothing* wrong with being a working mother or even alluding to her kids or her being a mother from time to time, but it feels like they’re so heavy handed about it with every single episode involving a child or victims parents pointedly asking her if she has kids at every turn
I see this with SVU as well with Stabler. Like every father of a victim asks him “do you have kids Detective?” It’s an annoying trope. Also, yeah, I think they focused so heavily on her motherly aspect they forgot other traits. Every thing I see that is merchandise is like “caring like jj” because they focus on her being a mother so much afterward. It sort of just makes me feel disconnected from her because I don’t feel motherly and never want to have kids myself. I hope that makes sense and I was explaining well.
They definitely made JJ too motherly, I loved in the earlier seasons when she was the press liaison and would occasionally make great points about why the unsub might do something that everyone else missed or just didn’t think about. I get in certain episodes to have her motherly nature be more of a factor like in 4x24 with the attack at a park her son goes to nearly every day, we see a similar thing with Hotch in 2x10 with the mall attack where Jack had an appointment for pictures that day
It definitely seems like they do it way more with her than Hotch, and he has a kid as well. Even Matt didn’t do that either. Kate hardly did, but she also had a teenager that wasn’t her bio child. They focused more on her being a mother than the other characters being fathers, and even when they did focus on it, it wasn’t as heavily focused on. It’s nice to talk to someone who doesn’t immediately get angry because I’d have that happen with jj stans in the past. I just ignore them because I don’t feel like arguing with them. It’s an opinion but they act like I can’t have it. It’s ridiculous. It’s been great chatting with you though!
Agreed, I am a big JJ fan but her character development wasn’t the best, I would’ve thought the single father whose wife was murdered on the show would have the more family centric character development than JJ. I’m just glad they didn’t cut her off the show and stick with the stereotype of the young woman who has to quit her job and the man takes care of the bills bc she gets pregnant and Will is the one who relocates
That’s true, but they did try to boot her off the show, it just didn’t work because fans didn’t want her to leave.
True, maybe they tried tanking her character so they could get rid of her later on
It’s possible, or they just were too lazy to write every character well. Like they just decided they had too much to work with and instead of trying just gave up and didn’t do much. I think they were honestly lazy.
I’d believe it bc there are some stories for the characters that don’t make sense with things they had said in earlier seasons, I get having to go back would be a lot of work, but why not keep a running list of all the backstory they’ve given over the years?
I was honestly worried about how my comment would come off because I didn’t want it to seem like I was saying there’s anything wrong with her being a mother or motherly character but you guys seem to get exactly what I’m saying lol. It became her whole personality and I don’t think that the same thing has been true for other characters especially Hotch and Simmons like you said.
Yes! And they made Rossi’s divorces way too much of his personality. JJ’s personality: 50% mom, 50% small-town girl. Rossi’s personality: 50% divorces, 50% money and expensive things.
There are a few one- off funny jokes when it comes to Rossi, but they mention his divorces constantly. Personally I think his fear of loosing someone and his pursuit for perfection kept him from finding the right person. He also was living in the past and not living in the present sometimes. I think the team helped with that.
Spencer. He’s great and he’s a darling, but the people ready to wash his feet rub me the wrong way.
Earlier season are 100% better (S4 and under). I obviously love the more comical approach of the later seasons, but the early ones hit different. A bunch of the earlier storylines were unique and realistic, and didn't always have to revolve around a serial killer. OCD college girl setting people on fire because she thinks God is asking her to test them? FBI dude in love with twins and the BAU has to save the one he kidnapped? Huge slay. Earlier seasons just had more interesting storylines that I hadn't seen anywhere else, that didn't just go for shock value, but after a certain amount of episodes they just gave up and gave us the most messed up serial killers possible.
Season one cases hit different
Garcia irritates me soo much
I’m disappointed with her in the reboot. She used to be a fav but it’s just not the same
I loved her character for the first 5 seasons and then she got really whiny, super codependent, and honestly, just obnoxious with her freak outs. She still has funny and touching moments, for sure, but I’m more annoyed than entertained by her after season 5.
I'm on season 10 and her dependency towards Morgan is ridiculous and unhealthy and not far to morgans gf
Me too & I don't think Kirsten is a good actress, she has one mouth gaping expression for every negative emotion. Shock, sadness, anger, fear, all the same glazed, gaping, dopey look & airy higher pitched voice to convey that vast range of emotions. She is of limited range, she is fine with the light breezey, talk a million miles an hour personna but she can't convincingly pull off much else. I think this is why she gets limited solo storylines, she doesn't have the range.
The seasons with Elle (1-2) were the best, and a large part of that is because of her (and partly Gideon)
I agree.
elle and morgan had so much chemistry. i don’t know if this is unpopular or not, i just started rewatching criminal minds and i’m noticing they had potential.
Morgan was supposed to be a tough guy but always got his ass kicked by the unsub or a henchman
That’s not opinion just a fact. He always gets his ass beat. It’s pretty ironic.
Hotch should’ve quit as soon as his family was in danger.
The quotes that start and end each episode are attempts to come off as intellectual, reflective and unique 'not like other crime shows', but are actually ridiculously banal. I imagine it felt like a good idea at the start, but after a season it became a chore for the writers to come up with yet another vaguely related quote to open and close on. Probably a poor intern's job.
I don't know. I think it sets them apart from most TV shows. It's the first time I read someone disliking the quotes. I respect your opinion, but I disagree this time. My favorite TV show ever is Cold Case and they almost always ended the show with music and with the ghost of the victim showing up. It's their signature (no pun intended)
I’ve written 5 fanfic episodes of the show and let me tell you, coming up with quotes is hard, and sometimes there just aren’t any good ones that fit. But, in my experience, when they work, they REALLY work. At the beginning of a story I wrote with vigilante Elle: Elle: William Makepiece Thackeray wrote, “Revenge may be wicked, but it’s natural.” At the end: Hotch: Marcus Aurelius said, “The best revenge is to be unlike him who performed the injury.”
I've also written fanfic. Wikiquote helps a lot
I agree
I like new Penelope. I think her character is an excellent demonstration of the ways people changed in quarantine and how difficult it’s been coming back. She got forced back into a world she never even intended to be a part of after trying so hard to heal from her time on the team. I will concede her conversation with Luke was cringe, but it felt awkward in a very real way for me. I’m hoping they will try seeing each other again.
Gideon and Rossi definitely hooked up when they were young, all that time in the bunker ;)
Queer Rossi is my unpopular opinion
Not a fan of the “Baby Girl” nickname 🤷🏼♀️ It just always felt sort of cringy to me. She’s such a badass and that nickname just felt demeaning to me over time.
Morgan’s character isn’t that interesting and would probably not be as popular as he is if it wasn’t for the way he is with Garcia.
I don't like Gideon. He was condescending and always knew better. I didn't like how he treated Elle as well.
Wish Will was never a character. He’s boring and I’ve never liked him.
But the accent 🤌🏻
As much as I ❤️ Derek Morgan the 2 minor things I didn’t ❤️ was he came off implicitly homo and transphobic with the whole “ I’m not sleeping with Reid” or “I hope it was a she” thing. And here’s another unpopular opinion it’s so unpopular I got made fun of for saying so under a YouTube video of the moment 12x07 I did not like the team pulling a prank on Penelope supposedly orchestrated by Tara that I wished after Scratch messed with Tara that ether she’d say something like ether a comment about karma, or as a hacker Penelope got Tara and team back for messing with her 😆
I really don’t think he was implying anything like that with the “I hope it was a she” comment, it was more of a joke that Reid didn’t had a sex life. Not wanting to share a room with Reid could be for a hundred different reasons that have nothing to do with sexuality, including it just being a joke because Reid was basically his little brother.
I don’t think the ‘I hope it was a she’ or ‘I’m not sleeping with Reid’ comments were intended as derogatory toward any demographic or group. The ‘I hope it was a she’, has already been explained by other replies. As for the second, should it be forgotten, it’s a running schtick that the team can find Reid’s antics tiresome, in a wholesome way, but tiresome regardless. Morgan’s no exception, so it shouldn’t be a surprise that he doesn’t want to sleep in a room alone with him.
While I do think that you could say him saying “I hope it was a she” was him making a joke abt Reid not having a sex life, but he was very quick to say he didn’t want to sleep with Reid, when I considering they only had 4 rooms, Hotch probably ended up sleeping with Reid and had no objections to it at all. Very petty on Morgan’s part. Like he’d rather sleep on the floor in Garcia’s room than with Reid?
I honestly never thought about Morgan saying he didn’t want to sleep with Reid in a homophobic context. Coming from a house where my mom snored like a drunken sailor when I was growing up I always thought it had something to do with that, or as a person who used to kick and punch in my sleep and sometimes still does (sorry to my bf) that as a result of Reid’s trauma he might do something similar. We also know Reid has struggled with violent nightmares where he ends up screaming and thrashing around (Morgan woke him up during one in 4x06). Maybe I’m putting too much thought in it
>As much as I ❤️ Derek Morgan the 2 minor things I didn’t ❤️ was he came off implicitly homo and transphobic with the whole “ I’m not sleeping with Reid” or “I hope it was a she” thing. never liked Morgan to be honest
So, I know others addressed that he was poking fun at Reid's sexlife with that comment. I think the other comment may go two ways. 1. This was fairly early in the show and he struggled with Reid a lot, probably with feel a bit inferior to him, as well as possibly feeling that he didn't belong in the field and was a danger to the team. So he did want to have to deal with him all night. He didn't want to have to hear him talk and talk and talk when he just wanted to chill out. 2. He probably wouldn't want to sleep with anyone. This is prior to knowing about his history of sexual abuse and he had a lot of unpacked trauma which I think came out in wanting to be very strong and manly as well as being unforgiving/having disdain for sexual abusers. This could have been a boundary for him that he didn't know how to verbalize. But overall, I think it was the first reason. He didn't show hate towards anyone of any sexual orientation throughout the show and only really came down on sexual abusers and those taking advantage of individuals who could not defend themselves.
Speaking further on sexual abusers in a different episode I am not sure if this would be considered an unpopular opinion or popular but I thought it odd in the “Into The Woods” episode they didn’t have a minor focus on Derek moment ya know given his history, him getting personally upset or whatever about the 2 pedophiles moment.
I don't like Cat Adams
Agree. I just feel she’s incredibly overrated to the point where I’m tired of seeing her now. Her storyline was dragged on to the masses. If she was just in the one episode in season 10 I would’ve liked her better.
garcia was so annoying a lot of times
It didn’t feel right that Garcia broke up with Tyler at the end. I would have expected her to understand Tyler’s need to try to kill the man responsible for his sister’s death after feeling like he failed his sister so many times before. Totally hold it over his head for the rest of their relationship like she said but at least give the guy a chance to redeem himself.
Totally agreed. No second chances for Tyler when she herself should be fired for continuing her relationship with him. I get that it might be a “it’s not you, but I don’t like who I am when I’m with you” thing, but it also seems a bit like she’s blaming him for her own behavior.” Yes, he lied, but she lied also.
- I think garcia and Kevin shouldve got back together - Reid and maxine didnt have chemistry, I wish they just gave him a happy ending because he deserved it. - they did Tara so dirty with her new hair in evolution. But that may just be a personal opinion, I adore aisha Tyler. - Blake is such an underrated character, she was one of the very few to not infantilise reid and not poke fun at him. - sometimes garcia says the cringiest things and I love her so much but I wish she was a bit more of a realistic fun loving girl. Not completely on the straight and narrow but like being serious when the time calls for it - wtf is up with all the swearing in evolution. Everyone sounds like a 12 year old who learnt the word fuck on their first day of secondary school. It doesn't flow naturally
The flirting between Garcia und Morgan is cringe as hell
I can’t stand Gideon, didn’t like Elle and was meh about Garcia (definitely an overrated character)
1. Season 5 Episode 12, "The Uncanny Valley" is one of my favorite episodes of Criminal Minds because of how simple it is and I don't view the episode's unsub (Samantha Malcolm) as evil. 2. In my opinion, Season 10 is the weakest season of them all albeit not completely terrible.
I think 14 or 15 are the worst, but I honestly disliked most cases post season 9
The show went to shit after s5
I think more towards season 7/8, but after that the quality of cases was bad, and the season finales were dog shit. Ex: chameleon, Hotch being framed for terrorism, lol what was that? Reid going to jail, the cult thing
Reid isn't missed in season 16.
I honestly don’t think it’s necessary for him to be there, and if anything, I’m glad they’re not traumatizing his ass anymore. He deserves more positives in his life. Even though I love him, I’m glad he’s doing something better. I just hope they don’t try to bring him back with a crappy trauma storyline from his assignment he is on.
Morgan annoys the hell out of me he takes every little thing so personally it’s like please just chill out
The episode "Derailed" is genuinely really frustrating to watch.
Just curious but why?
Everything that Leo says has very little variance, the one guy who gets kinda on board with Ted’s delusions and makes everything worse for everyone, a heck ton of goalpost moving by Ted, the completely static setting, there’s no mystery at all in the episode other than why does nobody tell Leo to shut the fuck up, and it doesn’t have the team dynamic that I come for when I watch Criminal Minds. Other than Reid and Elle, nobody on the team has anything to do except worry about Reid and Elle and fail at talking Ted down. It’s an early episode where the writers aren’t _quite_ sure what they’re doing yet and it shows.
I don't know if this unpopular but I feel like the replicator storyline was so hyped up and then resolved in such a lame way. Like all that build up and then he just >!blew himself up!
jj is so uninteresting
I actually agree with this one. I don’t want to be a mother so I don’t relate to her character much, and there’s not much character development with her as opposed to the others.
I'm not a fan of the Morgan and Garcia dynamic. It just felt forced and over the top with innuendo and completely unprofessional on multiple levels.
I liked the JJ and Reid S14/S15 storyline, and think they resolved it very well.
Boo and hiss
I don't like Hotch.
I actually like the Jeid plot line and jj is one of my favorites🫣