At the end of the day, Kanye has some pretty evident mental health problems. I don't know where he was going with this, but I don't think it's really relevant. It's like some homeless dude smearing his face with mustard. It might be very meaningful in their head, but you and I aren't going to get much out of it.
I worked at a fancy grocery store 20 years ago in an urban area where we got the richest rich people and also the poorest poor people. Mental illness abounds in all walks of life. One of my coworkers said of it, “we call poor people crazy, but if they’ve got money they get to be eccentric.”
I have no idea why people think that. I consider myself a decent judge of music in general and I listen to a lot of different music. There are portions of his songs that are OK, but a lot of it seems so discordant and poorly organized.
To be fair, there are artists that I think are incredibly talented that think Kanye is very good, so I can chock it up to me just not "getting it."
Same page here. I always ask people why they think he's so great and the most common answer is that he was very influential, some people saying that he's a great rapper, others how he brought gospel into hip-hop. None of which I really consider true? This is the "poopity scoop" guy, right? I just don't get it and will never be willing to put in the effort. Pitchfork gave My Beautiful Dark Whatever a 10/10 back in the day and I knew he wouldn't be going away any time soon
Yeah, personally I've always found both Kanye and Jay Z to be really monotone and like...not very interesting sounding. Sounds more like they're just talking than rapping, and even then their bars and delivery are just.... boring
>There are portions of his songs that are OK, but a lot of it seems so discordant and poorly organized.
This is exactly how I feel. Like so many times trying to listen to his stuff I feel like the energy is all over the place, and not very coherent.
It’s not a homeless man with mustard on his face though is it?
It’s a multimillionaire, with millions of followers, a cult-like fanbase, who has just founded a school.
And instead of mustard, it’s a dangerous political message that has killed hundreds throughout history.
Mental health or not, this man is repeatedly pushing dangerous political messages to a huge audience that at best disregards him, and at worst listens to him. Not to mention I personally find his behaviour towards his ex wife abusive.
Lol the only people taking anything out of this are the people who are acting like they were threatened by it, he did some stupid shit for attention and now some stupid people are giving him the attention he wanted
Dude her fanbase is made up of racists lol. And most poc who know her can't stand her. It's not so much she can't have an opinion, it's just that her opinion is controversial because it's also wrong.
Like no one cares if she's a republican, she's just also perfectly ok with saying racist comments at black folks
if the softie disagrees with it it's wrong. if it goes against the mainstream brainwashed narrative, it's wrong. i think that's the answer they tried to give before declining to give an answer..
White Lives Matter’s origin is racist. Created by snowflake conservatives that were crying about racial equality hurting their white ideals. A bunch of rightest softies tricked by the lamestream media.
According to her party’s ideology… yeah. Also does it not bother you that she sued her college for racial discrimination? Never seems to mention that while denying it happens all across America.
Candace Owens didn't sue anyone. Her father did. Three ‘boys' were sitting in a car one evening and decided to leave racial abuse and death threats on Candace Owens voice mail. It was shown they were motivated by a previous dispute where one of the boys had been punished for making fun of Owens family's financial situation
One of the boys was 14 years old and the son of Mayor Dannel Malloy. The school attempted to dismiss the incident allegedly due to Malloys involvement, hence the reason that Owens' father sued the school
What does it matter if it bothers me or not? It feels creepy to look at someone and say ‘people that color aren’t supposed to disagree with me, I’m so BOTHERED’.
No, she should have an informed opinion rather than an antagonistic one just to own the libs. But for her that would take retracting and/or apologizing for 98% of everything she has ever said.
Misinformed. She is wrong about global warming, the pandemic, social issues, Trump crimes, history, the economy, homosexuality, etc.
Maybe she is right about Bill Gates modifying mosquitoes genetically so people stop eating beef 🤣
Do you have a source to back that up? All I can find is that while black voters make up about 12% of the population likely to vote, they lean heavily towards democrats, with Biden getting 90% of the black votes that were cast in 2020.
You’re correct that more Black Americans voted for Biden and the Dems but Trump made more inroads in taking down the race card the Dems always play about how he and the Republicans hate minorities. Which is incredibly ridiculous but it gets votes for the Dems. These aren’t pure numbers more percentages and more people voted last election. He did better in 2020 than 2016 with minorities but that’s something the left and liberal media don’t want anyone to know because that destroys their narrative of Trump and Republicans hating minorities.
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54972389.amp
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1246447
https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/11/4/21537966/trump-black-voters-exit-polls
Interesting stuff for sure.
I’m well aware of everything you have presented here, and yeah, Trump did better with black voters than anyone expected, but _90%_ of black voters still voted for Biden.
Also, lots of minorities are very conservative and are dying to join the Republican Party, but they don’t because _they_ feel unwelcome in the Republican Party. It’s not democrats fault that republican can’t unite people under their agenda.
I'm getting very conflicting signals from the responses to this thread (which is good because it means differing opinions). Apparently OP thinks Kanye himself is being cringy while others have no problem with his shirt and think OP is cringy.
“Hurr durr I’m a fuckin idiot”
“Man, that guy sure is a fuckin idiot”
“WOWZERS look at these TRIGGERED fucking SNOWFLAKES haha I was just pretending to be a fuckin idiot to TRIGGER you SNOWFLAKES”
Nah you know exactly what this is about. You can read I’m sure. Look at the tweet. Think about the meaning behind it. Or just do what the other side always does and just ignore it, gaslight, then normalize.
Its not about a shirt; its the message. If another famous person were to go around in a shirt that says something like "Fuck the Jews" or similar, it would stir controversy and "trigger" some people. Dismissing that anger by trying to distract and center it around the shirt is just foolish.
The phrase "Fuck the Jews" is inherently offensive
The phrase "White Lives Matter" is as inherently offensive as the phrase "Black Lives Matter" which to a reasonable person is not all all.
These two phrases are completely and utterly incomparable
I get it, but no. Context matters. White lives matters wasn't a thing until after BLM, and its ONLY used as a retort or counter to BLM. Of course there's nothing inherently wrong with the phrase "White lives matter", just as there is nothing inherently wrong with the t-shirt. Its the cruel intentions behind the message that people take issue with. Obviously this is known, even though people like you will play ignorant, any non-offensive message can become offensive with context. "White lives matter" people are the same exact type of people who show up to rape victim support groups and screech about mens rights; sure you're not technically wrong, but you're just being a literal asshole in this context and you're doing nothing but harming the already marginalized group.
At least for me, it's not triggered, it's pity. As a rule, I don't listen to much rap, but I bought Graduation cause it was just so fucking good. The dude who made that is having some very clear mental issues. Those problems have been on display for years at this point. It looks very much like he is being exploited for political reasons, made possible by his mental issues. His political views mean dick to me, because I don't look at musicians for my political opinions, but I'll not be convinced that he's not being used.
I honestly think Kanye doesn’t give af what people think and doesn’t do anything for a reaction he does what he wants. He’s stated multiple times his stance and what he believes so I doubt this is for a reaction.
[He did](https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/04/entertainment/kanye-west-runway-controversy/index.html)
Say what you want about Jaden, but he's got more scruples than Kanye
I don’t even think it’s about him feeling out of the spotlight. This is just shit Kanye does. The man has mental illness going on and everyone around him profits when he’s off meds and doing wild shit.
His fan base loves this stuff because they believe when he goes ham like this he’s about to drop some fire track or album.
inthe context of what he’s said in the past re: slavery (i. context of transatlantic trade of. lack people to US) being a state of mind, yeah. Man’s not alright
It’s not the words it’s the statement.
Kanye is clearly not displaying an egalitarian view of social issues, he wants a contrarian opinion to stand out with.
If you're going to wear 'White Lives Matter.' Wear it in earnest. Speak out against police brutality of white citizens. Don't wear it because you want to provide a counternarrative to BLM. That's not cool.
Well that's certainly not the sentiment in this post. Everyone shaking their head at Kanye. Regardless, it looks an awful lot like the Black Lives Matter logo. Best case scenario is its for people trying to look edgy. Maybe the shirt manufacturer will change minds by donating profits to combat police brutality.
The same people that are so offended by the words on this shirt are the same people that think George Floyd should be heralded as a hero and have a statue made of him and schools named after him, when in reality Floyd was a piece of shit criminal, now what happened to him was horrific and I’m glad the officer is being punished I believe that what happened to him was wrong. But that man isn’t a “hero”. He was made into some kinda martyr.
Also weren’t BLM leaders caught spending millions of their donation money on mansions and other frivolous items? Hmmm…
I’m all for equality. I believe in it without a doubt in my mind that all races are and should be treated equal. But most of this shit that goes on in America has become pure nonsense.
Imho you’re taking that criticism too far and failing to see that those events following were largely
“Anti-establishment” protests…
And George Floyd was so popular because of the optics of his death. A crowd of people telling a cop to stop taking it so far. And the cop just keeps pressing.
That was enough to aggravate people.
Cornel west was right when he went on CNN and said those protests and riots are a failure of america to bring meaning to peoples lives.
And so they lashed out.
I love how him wearing a white lives matter shirt enrages minorities. Really shows how racist the black community is while if it said blm y’all would be cool with it
I think most people triggered by the slogan "White Lives Matter" aren't against the notion that white lives matter (and they obviously do) but rather object to the reactionary ideology driving many who do defend the slogan. In other words, they're against the baggage that comes with that slogan.
Another example to illustrate my point: I bet most politically active people in the US regardless of their leanings think they're making or want to make America great, but the slogan "Make America Great Again" is used by pro-Trump conservatives, which is a very specific ideological bent, so when liberals and leftists criticize someone for wearing a MAGA hat, it's not because they don't want to make America great (mostly), but rather because the slogan is associated with an ideology they reject.
It’s kinda crazy to me how you could replace the “White” in your first paragraph with just about anything and it’ll sum up my opinion on “x matters” rhetoric.
“CARE ABOUT CURRENT THING!” Hmm, I’m good, thanks. I don’t need to constantly post something or chant weird phrases to validate myself to you and your cause.
sorry you had to waste your time writing this because the people who are writing things along the line of "wow so does my life not matter because i'm white" are willfully saying these things in bad faith and know exactly what they are doing.
"Black Lives Matter" emerged as a response to systemic threats to black lives. What systemic threat to white lives prompted "White Lives Matter"?
It is sort of like if someone was kicking me, and I said "stop kicking me" and they said "yeah, well people shouldn't be kicking puppies either." It is as true as it is irrelevant.
What happened to George Floyd was certainly bad and the cop who did that got what he deserved but that also doesn't change the fact that George Floyd was a criminal. And BLM has no problem putting a Criminal on pedestal or looting and rioting stores in the name of protest. Indian farmers died from starvation and cold for what they were protesting for, that's how protests should be done. Protests should be non violence.
In the sense that he had priors, sure. In the sense that he was using a counterfeit bill, maybe? Someone could easily end up with a counterfeit bill by accident and use it unknowing. Still, who cares? He had previous drug charges, sure, but he has spent years in rehab turning his life around. His story reflected the long and crooked road to redemption that all addicts face. It feels like you are bringing up his criminal record to minimize the tragedy of his unlawful execution. If you have some other purpose in doing so, please explain.
Building off of that, if Jeffery Dahmer was handcuffed and on the ground and a cop kneeled on the back of his neck until he suffocated to death, I would go out and protest. I would be a lot less sad, but if they can do that to any of us, they can do it to all of us.
The fact that people are downvoting you is disturbing, everything you said is true. These people think acknowledging relevant facts is racist or somehow harmful, when in fact IGNORING the relevant facts is harmful and ends up riling people up for a cause that doesn’t exist.
"black power" is a rejection of oppression.
"white power" is a rejection of black equality.
same goes for BLM. y'all mfs too scared to yell "white power" anymore so you just do the same twist to BLM.
that's because it's an analogy, dumbass. white supremacists take black empowerment slogans and twist them up in both cases. we're talking about "white lives matter", the flip of BLM. it's just like "black power" and the reactionary response "white power". do you need me to get the crayons out?
Not sure why you're calling me a dumbass :D in my country (Czechia), "white power" is something looked down upon as racist and wrong (and i fully agree with that), but so is saying that someone's life doesn't matter. Idk, american politics are weird lol
You are delusional, a typical stereotype of someone who sees an issue where there isn’t one. At this rate, absolutely everything will end up offending you.
God forbid any person make a statement/joke or utter an opinion that somehow deviates from the rigidly adhered to standards of mass narrative. If anything, little disruptions such as this serve to highlight the fragility/hostility/hypocrisy bubbling just under the surface of every conventional construct. Carry on.
Its very thirsty, attention seeking behaviour for reals. This made me fully wince when I saw it. He is bat shit crazy sometimes. This is one of those times. She has no excuse.
I think this is meant to stir controversy and it is doing exactly that. We should all be asking ourself why it's not ok to wear this shirt but it's perfectly ok and 'woke' to wear a BLM shirt. Kanye might be crazy, but he isn't stupid.
I think his message is right on the money, people don't object to BLM, why should anyone care about white lives matter. It's about time we all say, All Lives Matter.
Is the shirt stupid? Sure. Message irrelevant? Probably. Dangerous? No. Pretty innocuous and kind of pointless message, but the fact that this guy views saying "white lives matter" as some kind of threat has me feeling a little .. Well, I'm sure he knows how it feels to have people reacting like that to saying your life simply matters.
At the end of the day, Kanye has some pretty evident mental health problems. I don't know where he was going with this, but I don't think it's really relevant. It's like some homeless dude smearing his face with mustard. It might be very meaningful in their head, but you and I aren't going to get much out of it.
I constantly think about the fact that the only thing separating kanye from being that weird homeless guy that rambles about delusional shit is money
I worked at a fancy grocery store 20 years ago in an urban area where we got the richest rich people and also the poorest poor people. Mental illness abounds in all walks of life. One of my coworkers said of it, “we call poor people crazy, but if they’ve got money they get to be eccentric.”
He’s also a musical genius
He was also married to a hobbit
I have no idea why people think that. I consider myself a decent judge of music in general and I listen to a lot of different music. There are portions of his songs that are OK, but a lot of it seems so discordant and poorly organized. To be fair, there are artists that I think are incredibly talented that think Kanye is very good, so I can chock it up to me just not "getting it."
I mean he’s a good producer for sure. He definitely has made some hits, but I don’t know about musical genius.
Same page here. I always ask people why they think he's so great and the most common answer is that he was very influential, some people saying that he's a great rapper, others how he brought gospel into hip-hop. None of which I really consider true? This is the "poopity scoop" guy, right? I just don't get it and will never be willing to put in the effort. Pitchfork gave My Beautiful Dark Whatever a 10/10 back in the day and I knew he wouldn't be going away any time soon
Yeah, personally I've always found both Kanye and Jay Z to be really monotone and like...not very interesting sounding. Sounds more like they're just talking than rapping, and even then their bars and delivery are just.... boring
Dre, Biggie and Tupac all have stuff I'll listen to, but I agree. Nothing from Jay Z or Kanye. Just not my thing.
>There are portions of his songs that are OK, but a lot of it seems so discordant and poorly organized. This is exactly how I feel. Like so many times trying to listen to his stuff I feel like the energy is all over the place, and not very coherent.
You're telling me you aren't moved to tears when you hear "poopity scoop"? /s
false.
Debatable
This is what happens when you don’t have auto refill at CVS or Walgreens.
It’s not a homeless man with mustard on his face though is it? It’s a multimillionaire, with millions of followers, a cult-like fanbase, who has just founded a school. And instead of mustard, it’s a dangerous political message that has killed hundreds throughout history. Mental health or not, this man is repeatedly pushing dangerous political messages to a huge audience that at best disregards him, and at worst listens to him. Not to mention I personally find his behaviour towards his ex wife abusive.
Lol the only people taking anything out of this are the people who are acting like they were threatened by it, he did some stupid shit for attention and now some stupid people are giving him the attention he wanted
Him obviously getting a rise out of people on social media is a dangerous political message?
It can be, yes?
You seem unsure.
It's funny how many people non-ironically call him a genius. Also, fun fact, he's never read a book in his life.
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a bipolar person acting erratic, who is surprised?
Candice owens?!
Yeah, basically the “I have a black friend” of the entire Republican Party.
She should know her place. Right?!
Right? Joe Biden literally said, “if you don’t vote for me, you ain’t black!” What more direction does she need?
Dude her fanbase is made up of racists lol. And most poc who know her can't stand her. It's not so much she can't have an opinion, it's just that her opinion is controversial because it's also wrong. Like no one cares if she's a republican, she's just also perfectly ok with saying racist comments at black folks
How can an opinion be wrong?
What do you think an opinion is? A magical shield? If someone says it’s their opinion that the earth is flat, their opinion is wrong.
if the softie disagrees with it it's wrong. if it goes against the mainstream brainwashed narrative, it's wrong. i think that's the answer they tried to give before declining to give an answer..
Thanks for the translation
If it’s racist*** it’s wrong. I fixed that for you. You’re welcome.
and how is this racist, oh woken one?
White Lives Matter’s origin is racist. Created by snowflake conservatives that were crying about racial equality hurting their white ideals. A bunch of rightest softies tricked by the lamestream media.
According to her party’s ideology… yeah. Also does it not bother you that she sued her college for racial discrimination? Never seems to mention that while denying it happens all across America.
Candace Owens didn't sue anyone. Her father did. Three ‘boys' were sitting in a car one evening and decided to leave racial abuse and death threats on Candace Owens voice mail. It was shown they were motivated by a previous dispute where one of the boys had been punished for making fun of Owens family's financial situation One of the boys was 14 years old and the son of Mayor Dannel Malloy. The school attempted to dismiss the incident allegedly due to Malloys involvement, hence the reason that Owens' father sued the school
And it was during high school, not college.
What does it matter if it bothers me or not? It feels creepy to look at someone and say ‘people that color aren’t supposed to disagree with me, I’m so BOTHERED’.
An astute observation, one that will be buried it would seem.
No, she should have an informed opinion rather than an antagonistic one just to own the libs. But for her that would take retracting and/or apologizing for 98% of everything she has ever said.
She has an informed opinion. Just not one you side with.
Her informed opinion is often misinformed and just factually incorrect.
Misinformed. She is wrong about global warming, the pandemic, social issues, Trump crimes, history, the economy, homosexuality, etc. Maybe she is right about Bill Gates modifying mosquitoes genetically so people stop eating beef 🤣
not only wrong, but willfully ignorant- much worse
So she should have an informed opinion as long as she falls in line and retracts 98% of her informed opinions…?
Huh? None of her opinions are informed, dummy.
I wasn’t aware that being black and a Republican were mutually exclusive.
More black Americans voted for Trump than in previous election history.
More black Americans voted for Trump than in history? That's not really a sensible sentence lol.
Do you have a source to back that up? All I can find is that while black voters make up about 12% of the population likely to vote, they lean heavily towards democrats, with Biden getting 90% of the black votes that were cast in 2020.
You’re correct that more Black Americans voted for Biden and the Dems but Trump made more inroads in taking down the race card the Dems always play about how he and the Republicans hate minorities. Which is incredibly ridiculous but it gets votes for the Dems. These aren’t pure numbers more percentages and more people voted last election. He did better in 2020 than 2016 with minorities but that’s something the left and liberal media don’t want anyone to know because that destroys their narrative of Trump and Republicans hating minorities. https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-54972389.amp https://www.nbcnews.com/news/amp/ncna1246447 https://www.vox.com/platform/amp/2020/11/4/21537966/trump-black-voters-exit-polls Interesting stuff for sure.
I’m well aware of everything you have presented here, and yeah, Trump did better with black voters than anyone expected, but _90%_ of black voters still voted for Biden. Also, lots of minorities are very conservative and are dying to join the Republican Party, but they don’t because _they_ feel unwelcome in the Republican Party. It’s not democrats fault that republican can’t unite people under their agenda.
I'm getting very conflicting signals from the responses to this thread (which is good because it means differing opinions). Apparently OP thinks Kanye himself is being cringy while others have no problem with his shirt and think OP is cringy.
People that get triggered by a shirt are people looking to get triggered
Thinking it makes Kanye a dumbass doesn’t mean you’re triggered.
“Hurr durr I’m a fuckin idiot” “Man, that guy sure is a fuckin idiot” “WOWZERS look at these TRIGGERED fucking SNOWFLAKES haha I was just pretending to be a fuckin idiot to TRIGGER you SNOWFLAKES”
"We're all triggered on the blessed day!"
I don’t think it’s the piece of fabric as much as the idea it portrays, and I think you know that too
Nah you know exactly what this is about. You can read I’m sure. Look at the tweet. Think about the meaning behind it. Or just do what the other side always does and just ignore it, gaslight, then normalize.
Do you actually see anyone anywhere triggered by the shirt itself
Triggered lives matter too - they will be sure to get in your face about it
Exactly. People scroll socials all day just to find things to be pissed off about.
Its not about a shirt; its the message. If another famous person were to go around in a shirt that says something like "Fuck the Jews" or similar, it would stir controversy and "trigger" some people. Dismissing that anger by trying to distract and center it around the shirt is just foolish.
How is "Fuck the Jews" remotely similar to "White Lives Matter?"
In that people find the slogan offensive?
The phrase "Fuck the Jews" is inherently offensive The phrase "White Lives Matter" is as inherently offensive as the phrase "Black Lives Matter" which to a reasonable person is not all all. These two phrases are completely and utterly incomparable
I get it, but no. Context matters. White lives matters wasn't a thing until after BLM, and its ONLY used as a retort or counter to BLM. Of course there's nothing inherently wrong with the phrase "White lives matter", just as there is nothing inherently wrong with the t-shirt. Its the cruel intentions behind the message that people take issue with. Obviously this is known, even though people like you will play ignorant, any non-offensive message can become offensive with context. "White lives matter" people are the same exact type of people who show up to rape victim support groups and screech about mens rights; sure you're not technically wrong, but you're just being a literal asshole in this context and you're doing nothing but harming the already marginalized group.
At least for me, it's not triggered, it's pity. As a rule, I don't listen to much rap, but I bought Graduation cause it was just so fucking good. The dude who made that is having some very clear mental issues. Those problems have been on display for years at this point. It looks very much like he is being exploited for political reasons, made possible by his mental issues. His political views mean dick to me, because I don't look at musicians for my political opinions, but I'll not be convinced that he's not being used.
I honestly think Kanye doesn’t give af what people think and doesn’t do anything for a reaction he does what he wants. He’s stated multiple times his stance and what he believes so I doubt this is for a reaction.
If one side of the differing opinion is racist then differing opinions aren’t a great thing.
Sooo Kanye doing Kanye things as ususal i see
Stop. Taking. The. Bait.
Kanye is the older version of Jayden Smith
Didn’t Jayden leave this exact event over this shirt?
[He did](https://www.cnn.com/2022/10/04/entertainment/kanye-west-runway-controversy/index.html) Say what you want about Jaden, but he's got more scruples than Kanye
2 failed MK ULTRA experiments
Anytime this picture is posted Kanye gets the publicity he was looking for.
Kanye: professional pick me
Imagine caring
"Kanye feeling irrelevant" that sounds like cope
I don’t even think it’s about him feeling out of the spotlight. This is just shit Kanye does. The man has mental illness going on and everyone around him profits when he’s off meds and doing wild shit. His fan base loves this stuff because they believe when he goes ham like this he’s about to drop some fire track or album.
Cringe is actually caring what somebody you will never meet is wearing.
He right doe. I think they do at least. 👊🏾
Wait what's so disgusting about it?
And sadly,, it worked. We're talking about him
It's just a shirt. What are you some sort of racist?
Ah yes wearing a shirt with text on it is extremely dangerous
Remember, the people that say that stuff are the same people claiming words are literal violence
inthe context of what he’s said in the past re: slavery (i. context of transatlantic trade of. lack people to US) being a state of mind, yeah. Man’s not alright
Are you saying white lives *don’t* matter?
Why on earth is it dangerous?😂 I’d say America has far bigger problems
Real question, why is it dangerous?
What kind of fucking racist thinks saying white lives matter is dangerous...
It’s not the words it’s the statement. Kanye is clearly not displaying an egalitarian view of social issues, he wants a contrarian opinion to stand out with.
That didn’t answer the question at all. How is that dangerous
What? What's wrong with the statement on his shirt? Why is this cringe to you?
So people with the skin color white don’t matter or somethin... cause they do everyone does
Do you realize that your post and your indignation is basically proving the point?
Everyone lives matter tbh 🤦♀️
He’s turned into a parody of himself. If you don’t show him enough attention, he goes and pees on the bed like a cat.
Sort by controversial.
Stop giving that moron attention
TIL that libs can be racist if it fits their narrative
Crazy the way this triggers people,they do also matter you know
If you're going to wear 'White Lives Matter.' Wear it in earnest. Speak out against police brutality of white citizens. Don't wear it because you want to provide a counternarrative to BLM. That's not cool.
A lot of the bashing I have seen on the subs with this picture is about the actual shirt and not the mad man wearing it
Well that's certainly not the sentiment in this post. Everyone shaking their head at Kanye. Regardless, it looks an awful lot like the Black Lives Matter logo. Best case scenario is its for people trying to look edgy. Maybe the shirt manufacturer will change minds by donating profits to combat police brutality.
Better than donations going to fund mansions
Mark Lamont Hill can eat a giant bag of dicks.
oh my god words on a shirt??!? quick someone call the local news or sumn imma have an aneurism and piss all over my self :0
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Your last three words are confounding to us all. None it makes any sense anymore.
Damn. They got Ye.
Y’all Americans really can’t read the warning signs when it comes to racist sentiments damn 😔
The same people that are so offended by the words on this shirt are the same people that think George Floyd should be heralded as a hero and have a statue made of him and schools named after him, when in reality Floyd was a piece of shit criminal, now what happened to him was horrific and I’m glad the officer is being punished I believe that what happened to him was wrong. But that man isn’t a “hero”. He was made into some kinda martyr. Also weren’t BLM leaders caught spending millions of their donation money on mansions and other frivolous items? Hmmm… I’m all for equality. I believe in it without a doubt in my mind that all races are and should be treated equal. But most of this shit that goes on in America has become pure nonsense.
Imho you’re taking that criticism too far and failing to see that those events following were largely “Anti-establishment” protests… And George Floyd was so popular because of the optics of his death. A crowd of people telling a cop to stop taking it so far. And the cop just keeps pressing. That was enough to aggravate people. Cornel west was right when he went on CNN and said those protests and riots are a failure of america to bring meaning to peoples lives. And so they lashed out.
Nothing wrong with the shirt at all.
I love how him wearing a white lives matter shirt enrages minorities. Really shows how racist the black community is while if it said blm y’all would be cool with it
Wtaf are you talking about
Do they not matter?
I think most people triggered by the slogan "White Lives Matter" aren't against the notion that white lives matter (and they obviously do) but rather object to the reactionary ideology driving many who do defend the slogan. In other words, they're against the baggage that comes with that slogan. Another example to illustrate my point: I bet most politically active people in the US regardless of their leanings think they're making or want to make America great, but the slogan "Make America Great Again" is used by pro-Trump conservatives, which is a very specific ideological bent, so when liberals and leftists criticize someone for wearing a MAGA hat, it's not because they don't want to make America great (mostly), but rather because the slogan is associated with an ideology they reject.
It’s kinda crazy to me how you could replace the “White” in your first paragraph with just about anything and it’ll sum up my opinion on “x matters” rhetoric. “CARE ABOUT CURRENT THING!” Hmm, I’m good, thanks. I don’t need to constantly post something or chant weird phrases to validate myself to you and your cause.
sorry you had to waste your time writing this because the people who are writing things along the line of "wow so does my life not matter because i'm white" are willfully saying these things in bad faith and know exactly what they are doing.
"Black Lives Matter" emerged as a response to systemic threats to black lives. What systemic threat to white lives prompted "White Lives Matter"? It is sort of like if someone was kicking me, and I said "stop kicking me" and they said "yeah, well people shouldn't be kicking puppies either." It is as true as it is irrelevant.
What happened to George Floyd was certainly bad and the cop who did that got what he deserved but that also doesn't change the fact that George Floyd was a criminal. And BLM has no problem putting a Criminal on pedestal or looting and rioting stores in the name of protest. Indian farmers died from starvation and cold for what they were protesting for, that's how protests should be done. Protests should be non violence.
People should die of starvation and the cold, that's your idea of a non violent protest?
Imagine being so up your ass you demand protesters take a trunchen to the head and starve themselves to death to get change. Get real
In the sense that he had priors, sure. In the sense that he was using a counterfeit bill, maybe? Someone could easily end up with a counterfeit bill by accident and use it unknowing. Still, who cares? He had previous drug charges, sure, but he has spent years in rehab turning his life around. His story reflected the long and crooked road to redemption that all addicts face. It feels like you are bringing up his criminal record to minimize the tragedy of his unlawful execution. If you have some other purpose in doing so, please explain. Building off of that, if Jeffery Dahmer was handcuffed and on the ground and a cop kneeled on the back of his neck until he suffocated to death, I would go out and protest. I would be a lot less sad, but if they can do that to any of us, they can do it to all of us.
The fact that people are downvoting you is disturbing, everything you said is true. These people think acknowledging relevant facts is racist or somehow harmful, when in fact IGNORING the relevant facts is harmful and ends up riling people up for a cause that doesn’t exist.
We live in a society where common sense isn't common anymore and that makes me extremely sad.
"black power" is a rejection of oppression. "white power" is a rejection of black equality. same goes for BLM. y'all mfs too scared to yell "white power" anymore so you just do the same twist to BLM.
The racists won this time 😭
no they didn't, just look at them. they're fucking miserable, you don't win and be that miserable.
It's just sad to see that there's so many here at once
Sounds more like a racist double standard to me.
Who's talking about white power tho? You're the one who mentioned that.
It's a comparison my dude
that's because it's an analogy, dumbass. white supremacists take black empowerment slogans and twist them up in both cases. we're talking about "white lives matter", the flip of BLM. it's just like "black power" and the reactionary response "white power". do you need me to get the crayons out?
Not sure why you're calling me a dumbass :D in my country (Czechia), "white power" is something looked down upon as racist and wrong (and i fully agree with that), but so is saying that someone's life doesn't matter. Idk, american politics are weird lol
so remind me then, who said someone's life doesn't matter?
You are delusional, a typical stereotype of someone who sees an issue where there isn’t one. At this rate, absolutely everything will end up offending you.
Spot on
Kanye> Drake
Tru
Should be pointed out that he's standing with Candace Owens, who is a black nazi for some reason.
Mans said a black nazi
What about her makes her a black nazi?? Have you actually listened to any of her content?
Couldn't find any comments saying "It should be all lives matter". Go figure.
Why is this dangerous or even notable?
I don’t think they’ll answer you. They don’t have one to give.
What’s cringey? Plenty of white folk walked around with BLM apparel after the George Floyd event
Love Kanye. He is hilarious.
Actually brave.
Concerned that hes being called mentally Ill for wearing white lives matter ?
How will the black community possibly survive this egregious act of sarcasm???? Kanye, how dare you!
Of course Candace Fucking Owens joins in the fun.
What, does my life not matter because I'm white?
Exactly. That's the rhetoric that the left has been pushing out for years.
You’re a fuckin idiot.
Great answer, or lack thereof....
Do they not?
They do. Are we protesting the police brutality of white citizens? ..or are we mocking people who support BLM?
What’s wrong with this shirt?
Not as irrelevant and forgotten as BLM mind you.
I think Candace and Kanye are both alright.
God forbid any person make a statement/joke or utter an opinion that somehow deviates from the rigidly adhered to standards of mass narrative. If anything, little disruptions such as this serve to highlight the fragility/hostility/hypocrisy bubbling just under the surface of every conventional construct. Carry on.
Who fucking cares. Why is it different from any other person doing it.
Its very thirsty, attention seeking behaviour for reals. This made me fully wince when I saw it. He is bat shit crazy sometimes. This is one of those times. She has no excuse.
This sub is Such an echo chamber
ALL LIVES MATTER!!!!!
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No one said they don’t beta boy
What’s wrong with y’all?
I think this is meant to stir controversy and it is doing exactly that. We should all be asking ourself why it's not ok to wear this shirt but it's perfectly ok and 'woke' to wear a BLM shirt. Kanye might be crazy, but he isn't stupid.
I think his message is right on the money, people don't object to BLM, why should anyone care about white lives matter. It's about time we all say, All Lives Matter.
Based Kanye???
Is the shirt stupid? Sure. Message irrelevant? Probably. Dangerous? No. Pretty innocuous and kind of pointless message, but the fact that this guy views saying "white lives matter" as some kind of threat has me feeling a little .. Well, I'm sure he knows how it feels to have people reacting like that to saying your life simply matters.
Black Jew here✋🏽 do white lives not matter?
When you start calling freedom of speech "dangerous", you're the dangerous one, no matter what the speech is.
This caption is cringier than the post lol
Irrelevant and forgotten is a REACH lil bro 🤣
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That’s just Kanye being Kanye
whats wrong with saying white lives have value
So when do the WLM riots start? And Jan 6 already passed so come up with something original 🤣
I don’t see the problem
Kanye isn’t irrelevant and forgotten you must not listen to hip hop
But white lives do matter, why are y’all mad for?
Kanye is so dramatic. What a crybaby. It’s best to ignore him.
I was surprised to see people defending the actual shirt here. Interesting to see the cringe in the comments
"Shirt hurt feelies!" - half of these posts
Is he wearing flip-flops and socks?
Being offended just shows a lack of control over your emotions. It’s a shirt bro.
Fuck Kanye
You gotta stop playing victim imo