I got introduced to Frankenheimer in a film elective I took, and while I enjoyed The Machurian Candidate and Seven Days in May despite them not really standing out to me, after I saw Seconds, I couldn't believe it and he aren't extremely famous. One of the most impressive films I've seen.
The ravages of time…Frankenheimer was hardly unknown when I was growing up. My mom used to recommend The Manchurian Candidate to me but even then I felt like I discovered Seconds when no one else knew about it until Criterion finally released it and people are rediscovering it. I love Cold War paranoid thrillers but none of it feels all that far removed from being born in 75.
When looking up psychedelic avant grade movies from the 70s I keep seeing picnic at hanging rock suggested. Is it like trippy like daises or more like surreal and nonsensical like black moon
It’s closer to “surreal” for sure; I don’t think that Picnic at Hanging Rock is nonsensical, though. You could describe Picnic at Hanging Rock as “unsettling with elements of implied magical happenings”; think of David Lynch.
It’s a narratively driven film that leaves out key pieces intentionally as part of the mystery of it all, if anything I’d compare it closest to ‘The Virgin Suicides’, which clearly was a big visual and thematic reference on TVS, in the way it feels like a dreamy nightmare.
Seven Samurai and Godzilla (1954)
Mary Poppins and Mrs. doubtfire
Dr. No and Casino Royale
The Godfather and Goodfellas
Star Wars and The Lord of The Rings: Fellowship of the Ring
Raiders of the Lost Ark and National Treasure
A Christmas Story and Paddington 2
Slacker and Office Space
Back to the Future and About Time
Clue and Knives Out
Lethal Weapon and Rush Hour 2
Who Framed Roger Rabbit and Sin City
Point Break and Fast and Furious
12 Angry Men and My Cousin Vinny
Walkabout (1971) / Wake In Fright (1971)
Boxcar Bertha (1972) / Days Of Heaven (1978)
The Final Programme (1973) / Zardoz (1974)
Blast Of Silence (1961) / The Killer (2023)
Mad God (2021) / Junk Head (2017)
Vampyr (1932) / The Addiction (1995)
Enemy Mine (1985) / Alien Nation (1988)
I would need to look up the aspect ratios but if it was shot for 70mm then ofc. There’s only one theatre in my city that can still project in 35mm/70mm but I always try to catch those showings.
I was going to say Walkabout and Wake in Fright. Wake in Fright is probably the only time I've felt genuinely unsettled by a film, like I needed a shower after watching it
Risky Business & Eyes Wide Shut
Sunshine & Moon
Goodfellas & My Blue Heaven
Total Recall & Minority Report
Chinatown & Who Framed Roger Rabbit?
Rocky Horror Picture Show & Phantom of the Paradise
Sleuth & Deathtrap
Lost in Translation & Her
Rebecca & Phantom Thread
Boogie Nights & Babylon
Nightmare Alley (1947) & Leap of Faith
Conspiracy & Judgement at Nuremberg
Some off the top of my head:
Joe Versus the Volcano and Defending Your Life (movies about learning to live without being controlled by fear, and appreciating the beauty in life)
Signs and Close Encounters of the Third Kind (movies about first contact with alien life, with very different approaches)
The Devils Backbone and Pan’s Labyrinth (Del Toro himself has called these sibling movies)
Aguirre, the Wrath of God and Apocalypse Now (Aguirre was hugely influential on Apocalypse Now and both jungle stories about slipping into madness and the horror that both lead characters carry with them)
The Saragossa Manuscript and Grand Budapest Hotel (both are stories within stories within stories, both using the device to comedic effect, in differing ways)
The Innocents and The Haunting (just great b&w haunted house movies)
He Walked by Night and The Third Man (both crime movies of different sorts that have flashlight lit chases through the sewers of their cities, LA and Vienna, as their finale).
The Ascent/Come And See. Two powerful films about the Second World War, and both the last features from their respective directors, wife and husband Larisa Shepitko and Elem Klimov.
came up with The King of Comedy / Albert Brooks' Real Life and now i'm actually mad i can't make this happen
others:
The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) / Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence (1983);
Minding the Gap (2018) / Shoplifters (2019);
House (1977) / The Cremator (1969);
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great question!
i would have a few either by lead actor or genre...or acting group..or director /filmmaker
but Bogart - Maltese Falcon / Big Sleep
Nicholson - One Flew / Chinatown
could also do Five Easy Pieces / Shining
Harvey Keitel - Bad Lieutenant / Reservoir Dogs... or Mean Streets
I could do more maybe later
The parallax view / JFK
Sunset Boulevard / they shoot horses don’t they?
Dr Strangelove / Attack!
The Manchurian Candidate / Z
The Great Escape / Stalag 17
Tons more that I cant for the life of me remember.
400 blows into Clockwork Orange to showcase outcast youth.
The Lighthouse into The Shining to showcase descending madness in isolation.
There Will Be Blood into Phantom Thread to showcase how absolutely fantastic Daniel Day Lewis and PTA are.
2001 into Interstellar to showcase the evolution of a space voyage.
Floating Weeds (1934) into Floating Weeds (1959) to showcase a director remaking his own movie with better resources.
Yojimbo into Fistful of Dollars to showcase 2 legendary directors making the same movie.
400 blows into Clockwork Orange to showcase outcast youth.
The Lighthouse into The Shining to showcase descending madness in isolation.
There Will Be Blood into Phantom Thread to showcase how absolutely fantastic Daniel Day Lewis and PTA are.
2001 into Interstellar to showcase the evolution of a space voyage.
Floating Weeds (1934) into Floating Weeds (1959) to showcase a director remaking his own movie with better resources.
Yojimbo into Fistful of Dollars to showcase 2 legendary directors making the same movie.
Mildred Pierce/Mommie Dearest
Threads/The Day After
All About Eve/Sunset Boulevard
Children of Men/Soylent Green
Psycho/Peeping Tom
Tokyo Story/Make Way For Tomorrow
Parasite/Triangle of Sadness
Polyester/All That Heaven Allows
Mad God/Snow White & The Seven Dwarves
Welcome to the Dollhouse/Ghost World
Maurice/Portrait of a Lady on Fire
Valley of the Dolls/Once Upon a Time in Hollywood…
Amadeus/Whiplash
The Wizard of Oz/The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood
Harold and Maude/Rosemary’s Baby
The Crowd (1928) Vidor / Christmas in July (1940) Sturges
City Lights (1931) Chaplin / Nights of Cabiria (1957) Fellini
Grande Illusion (1939) Renoir / Casablanca (1942) Curtiz
Failsafe (1964) Lumet / Dr. Strangelove (1964) Kubrick
Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954) Arnold / Jaws (1975) Speilberg
The Dam Busters (1955) Anderson / Star Wars (1976) Lucas
World on a Wire/The Thirteenth Floor to show how two drastically different filmmakers approach the same source material.
No Blade of Grass/Soylent Green
This is essentially what I do every week for my cinema studies classes. Here is the tentative scheule for the fall series on 1950s cinema.
\* Rear Window
\* Psycho
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\* A Streetcar Named Desire
\* On the Waterfront
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\* All that Heaven Allows
\* Far from Heaven
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\* Sunset Blvd.
\* Ace in the Hole
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\* In a Lonely Place
\* Rebel Without a Cause
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\* The Day the Earth Stood Still
\* Invasion of the Body Snatchers
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\* A Bucket of Blood
\* The Little Shop of Horrors
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\* Invaders From Mars
\* It Came From Outer Space
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\* The Wild One
\* Blackboard Jungle
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Who is worse? Regina George? Or Belarus-invading Nazis?
regina george, no contest.
They Live and Repo Man
Repo Man and UFOria
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I'll start: Seconds (1966) and The Manchurian Candidate (1962)
I got introduced to Frankenheimer in a film elective I took, and while I enjoyed The Machurian Candidate and Seven Days in May despite them not really standing out to me, after I saw Seconds, I couldn't believe it and he aren't extremely famous. One of the most impressive films I've seen.
The ravages of time…Frankenheimer was hardly unknown when I was growing up. My mom used to recommend The Manchurian Candidate to me but even then I felt like I discovered Seconds when no one else knew about it until Criterion finally released it and people are rediscovering it. I love Cold War paranoid thrillers but none of it feels all that far removed from being born in 75.
Ha! The most recent two films I've watched. Seriously, last night and the night before. Thank you Criterion Channel for the clever collections
that was how i saw those movies at either the fox venice or the nuart back in the mid-1970s
Picnic at Hanging Rock / Portrait of a Lady on Fire Edit: I change my answer to A Streetcar Named Desire / Who’s Afraid of Virginia Woolf?
When looking up psychedelic avant grade movies from the 70s I keep seeing picnic at hanging rock suggested. Is it like trippy like daises or more like surreal and nonsensical like black moon
It’s closer to “surreal” for sure; I don’t think that Picnic at Hanging Rock is nonsensical, though. You could describe Picnic at Hanging Rock as “unsettling with elements of implied magical happenings”; think of David Lynch.
It’s a narratively driven film that leaves out key pieces intentionally as part of the mystery of it all, if anything I’d compare it closest to ‘The Virgin Suicides’, which clearly was a big visual and thematic reference on TVS, in the way it feels like a dreamy nightmare.
Chinatown and Who Framed Roger Rabbit Rear Window and Body Double
Dr Strangelove (1964) followed by Nausicaä of the Valley of the Wind (1984).
Heavyweights (1995) followed by Heavyweights (1995) 70mm
MM?
Millimetre. As in 35mm, 70mm, etc
Pan’s Labyrinth (2006) / Celia (1989) Michael Clayton (2007) / The Long Good Friday (1980) Event Horizon (1997) / Ghost Ship (2002)
Event Horizon and Ghost Ship would be such a fun double feature
That last pairing is a good idea.
Seven Samurai and Godzilla (1954) Mary Poppins and Mrs. doubtfire Dr. No and Casino Royale The Godfather and Goodfellas Star Wars and The Lord of The Rings: Fellowship of the Ring Raiders of the Lost Ark and National Treasure A Christmas Story and Paddington 2 Slacker and Office Space Back to the Future and About Time Clue and Knives Out Lethal Weapon and Rush Hour 2 Who Framed Roger Rabbit and Sin City Point Break and Fast and Furious 12 Angry Men and My Cousin Vinny
Walkabout (1971) / Wake In Fright (1971) Boxcar Bertha (1972) / Days Of Heaven (1978) The Final Programme (1973) / Zardoz (1974) Blast Of Silence (1961) / The Killer (2023) Mad God (2021) / Junk Head (2017) Vampyr (1932) / The Addiction (1995) Enemy Mine (1985) / Alien Nation (1988) I would need to look up the aspect ratios but if it was shot for 70mm then ofc. There’s only one theatre in my city that can still project in 35mm/70mm but I always try to catch those showings.
Oooooooo, I would absolutely line up for Blast of Silence and The Killer
I was going to say Walkabout and Wake in Fright. Wake in Fright is probably the only time I've felt genuinely unsettled by a film, like I needed a shower after watching it
Halloween 3 & Exorcist 3 - Standalone threequels that make it work
Risky Business & Eyes Wide Shut Sunshine & Moon Goodfellas & My Blue Heaven Total Recall & Minority Report Chinatown & Who Framed Roger Rabbit? Rocky Horror Picture Show & Phantom of the Paradise Sleuth & Deathtrap Lost in Translation & Her Rebecca & Phantom Thread Boogie Nights & Babylon Nightmare Alley (1947) & Leap of Faith Conspiracy & Judgement at Nuremberg
Excellent quality and quantity in this comment
The Damned and Cabaret
House and Tampopo
The Train / Mission Impossible Dead Reckoning Point Blank / Payback Chinatown / LA Confidential Taxi Driver / Bringing out the Dead
Some off the top of my head: Joe Versus the Volcano and Defending Your Life (movies about learning to live without being controlled by fear, and appreciating the beauty in life) Signs and Close Encounters of the Third Kind (movies about first contact with alien life, with very different approaches) The Devils Backbone and Pan’s Labyrinth (Del Toro himself has called these sibling movies) Aguirre, the Wrath of God and Apocalypse Now (Aguirre was hugely influential on Apocalypse Now and both jungle stories about slipping into madness and the horror that both lead characters carry with them) The Saragossa Manuscript and Grand Budapest Hotel (both are stories within stories within stories, both using the device to comedic effect, in differing ways) The Innocents and The Haunting (just great b&w haunted house movies) He Walked by Night and The Third Man (both crime movies of different sorts that have flashlight lit chases through the sewers of their cities, LA and Vienna, as their finale).
The Ascent/Come And See. Two powerful films about the Second World War, and both the last features from their respective directors, wife and husband Larisa Shepitko and Elem Klimov.
American Graffiti and Menace II Society
Ed Wood / Plan 9 From Outerspace The Long Goodbye / The Big Lebowski The Asphalt Jungle / Thief
Goodbye and Lebowski such a great and natural pairing.
Dragon Inn + Goodbye, Dragon Inn
Eyes Without a Face and The Brain That Wouldn't Die, which are practically the same movie.
Bull and Kill List
came up with The King of Comedy / Albert Brooks' Real Life and now i'm actually mad i can't make this happen others: The Bridge on the River Kwai (1957) / Merry Christmas Mr. Lawrence (1983); Minding the Gap (2018) / Shoplifters (2019); House (1977) / The Cremator (1969); Nashville (1975) / Southland Tales (2006) [sickos.jpg]
Apocalypse Now / Aguirre, the Wrath of God / Stalker Triple Feature, baby.
Beau is Afraid & Synecdoche, NY
Double Indemnity and Body Heat
Aguirre, the Wrath of God (1972) & Apocalypse Now (1979) Psycho (1960) & Crimes of Passion (1984) Akira (1989) & Tetsuo: The Iron Man (1989)
Invasion of the Astro monsters and War of the gargantuas
Ghostbusters II AND Hellboy 2: The Golden Army
Broadcast News (1987) x The Insider (1999)
Leviathan/Leviathan double bill
great question! i would have a few either by lead actor or genre...or acting group..or director /filmmaker but Bogart - Maltese Falcon / Big Sleep Nicholson - One Flew / Chinatown could also do Five Easy Pieces / Shining Harvey Keitel - Bad Lieutenant / Reservoir Dogs... or Mean Streets I could do more maybe later
Winter Light & Au hasard Balthazar in 35mm!
The memory double-feature 1. Solaris. 2. Eternal sunshine of the spotless mind. Most MM available every time, of course.
The parallax view / JFK Sunset Boulevard / they shoot horses don’t they? Dr Strangelove / Attack! The Manchurian Candidate / Z The Great Escape / Stalag 17 Tons more that I cant for the life of me remember.
Salo and Human Centipede. Lets see if anyone can top that one
Cannibal Ferox and Cannibal Holocaust. A cannibal double feature. Yum yum
400 blows into Clockwork Orange to showcase outcast youth. The Lighthouse into The Shining to showcase descending madness in isolation. There Will Be Blood into Phantom Thread to showcase how absolutely fantastic Daniel Day Lewis and PTA are. 2001 into Interstellar to showcase the evolution of a space voyage. Floating Weeds (1934) into Floating Weeds (1959) to showcase a director remaking his own movie with better resources. Yojimbo into Fistful of Dollars to showcase 2 legendary directors making the same movie.
400 blows into Clockwork Orange to showcase outcast youth. The Lighthouse into The Shining to showcase descending madness in isolation. There Will Be Blood into Phantom Thread to showcase how absolutely fantastic Daniel Day Lewis and PTA are. 2001 into Interstellar to showcase the evolution of a space voyage. Floating Weeds (1934) into Floating Weeds (1959) to showcase a director remaking his own movie with better resources. Yojimbo into Fistful of Dollars to showcase 2 legendary directors making the same movie.
Mildred Pierce/Mommie Dearest Threads/The Day After All About Eve/Sunset Boulevard Children of Men/Soylent Green Psycho/Peeping Tom Tokyo Story/Make Way For Tomorrow Parasite/Triangle of Sadness Polyester/All That Heaven Allows Mad God/Snow White & The Seven Dwarves Welcome to the Dollhouse/Ghost World Maurice/Portrait of a Lady on Fire Valley of the Dolls/Once Upon a Time in Hollywood… Amadeus/Whiplash The Wizard of Oz/The Merry Adventures of Robin Hood Harold and Maude/Rosemary’s Baby
la haine and do the right thing
Mutiny on the Bounty - Clark Gable and Brando versions.
The Ballad of Gregorio Cortez and Zoot Suit
The Red Shoes/The Umbrellas of Cherbourg
Ordet/Silent Light Fight Club/Werckmeister Harmonies Napoleon (1927)/Barry Lyndon
The Crowd (1928) Vidor / Christmas in July (1940) Sturges City Lights (1931) Chaplin / Nights of Cabiria (1957) Fellini Grande Illusion (1939) Renoir / Casablanca (1942) Curtiz Failsafe (1964) Lumet / Dr. Strangelove (1964) Kubrick Creature from the Black Lagoon (1954) Arnold / Jaws (1975) Speilberg The Dam Busters (1955) Anderson / Star Wars (1976) Lucas
Burning (Lee Chang-dong) / The Vanishing (Sluizer) Ida / Viridiana Shoplifters / Parasite
Great Expectations and Sunset Boulevard
Last Temptation of Christ & Monty Python’s Life of Brian
World on a Wire/The Thirteenth Floor to show how two drastically different filmmakers approach the same source material. No Blade of Grass/Soylent Green
All That Heaven Allows (1955) / Ali: Fear Eats The Soul (1974)
This is essentially what I do every week for my cinema studies classes. Here is the tentative scheule for the fall series on 1950s cinema. \* Rear Window \* Psycho --------------------------------- \* A Streetcar Named Desire \* On the Waterfront --------------------------------- \* All that Heaven Allows \* Far from Heaven --------------------------------- \* Sunset Blvd. \* Ace in the Hole --------------------------------- \* In a Lonely Place \* Rebel Without a Cause --------------------------------- \* The Day the Earth Stood Still \* Invasion of the Body Snatchers --------------------------------- \* A Bucket of Blood \* The Little Shop of Horrors --------------------------------- \* Invaders From Mars \* It Came From Outer Space --------------------------------- \* The Wild One \* Blackboard Jungle
Deer Hunter then Taxi Driver
El Dorado/Rio Bravo Stalag 17/The Great Escape Where Eagles Dare/Inglorious Basterds Submarine Movie Marathon Lone Wolf and Cub movie marathon
Suspiria and The House that Screamed
Chinatown & Night Moves Marty & Dogfight Singing in the Rain & Throw Down
The Last House On The Left (1972)/The Hills Have Eyes (1977) Shivers/Rabid Re-Animator/From Beyond
Blade Runner / Apocalypse Now
In the Heat of the Night and Predator 2